WEBVTT - All Eyes on Arizona with Abraham Hamadeh

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<v Speaker 1>I take questioning elections seriously. I don't believe it should

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<v Speaker 1>be done, and necessarily it's an important thing to raise questions,

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<v Speaker 1>to raise doubt, to cast out on elections. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to have faith in the election process. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>have faith in the system. But what happened in Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>deserves to be questioned. Even Maricopa County election officials have

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<v Speaker 1>admitted that at least sixty voting locations experienced issues with

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<v Speaker 1>their ballot on demand printers. The Attorney General's Office also

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<v Speaker 1>has concerns because they launched an investigation into a series

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<v Speaker 1>of complaints and raising questions if Maricopa County complied with

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona election law. Instead of being truthful and instead of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to answer questions, it looks like Maricopa County's leaders

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<v Speaker 1>are just trying to cover things up. I mean, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to what Maricopa County Board of Supervisor's chairman Bill Gates

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<v Speaker 1>had to say. Hi, I'm Bill Gates, and I'm chairman

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<v Speaker 1>of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you today about voters suppress. Unfortunately, that

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<v Speaker 1>phrase has been thrown around in our county since election

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<v Speaker 1>day people have claimed that there was voters suppression because

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<v Speaker 1>we had issues with the printers, which did not reveal

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<v Speaker 1>themselves when we tested these printers before election day. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that this happened, and my colleagues and I are

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<v Speaker 1>committed to figuring out exactly what happened so that it

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<v Speaker 1>never happens again. But that does not constitute voter suppression.

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<v Speaker 1>We know what voter suppression looks like in our country.

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<v Speaker 1>The inconvenience and the lines that people experience were unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact is every voter had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>cast a vote on election day. Now, you gotta remember

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<v Speaker 1>that Mercoba County is Arizona's most populous county. You also

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember who's turning out on election day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Republican voters. It's not Democrats being disenfranchised. Its Republicans. And

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<v Speaker 1>what raises suspicions is that Thomas Liddy, the division in

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<v Speaker 1>chief for the Civil Services Division of the Maricoba County's

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney's Office. So he's trying to say that no voter

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<v Speaker 1>was disenfranchised because of the difficulty the county experienced with

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<v Speaker 1>some of its printers. How is that possible when you

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<v Speaker 1>have issues at least sixty voting locations. So even that

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<v Speaker 1>response from Mericoba County makes no sense. It flies in

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<v Speaker 1>the face of logic, it flies in the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. So what really happened in Maricoba County and

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in Arizona, We're gonna get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of it with a Bama Day, who is the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>general candidate for Republicans. He's currently facing a recount in

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<v Speaker 1>the election. He's down by just a little over five votes,

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<v Speaker 1>so what happened matters a lot to him and could

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<v Speaker 1>mean if he ends up being the Attorney General or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's launched a lawsuit and uh he waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>see the results of that and also waiting to see

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<v Speaker 1>the results of the recount. But he's not giving up

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<v Speaker 1>the fight, and I don't believe he should because there

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<v Speaker 1>are questions about what happened in Maricopa County, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like the Mericopa County election officials there want

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<v Speaker 1>to give answers. So here's a you know, a right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got the certification taking place of what happened in Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of questions about what went down

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<v Speaker 1>on election day. Maricopa County officials have admitted that at

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<v Speaker 1>least sixty voting locations experienced issues with their ballot on

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<v Speaker 1>demand partners. What happened on election day, Well, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good question, and you know, a lot more journalist should

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<v Speaker 1>be asking this because supposedly what happened in a Merricopa

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<v Speaker 1>county was that they tested all the issue all the

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<v Speaker 1>machines and the printers the night before and then suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>you need imediately, as polls opened up at six am,

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<v Speaker 1>what we saw was so many of the printers and

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<v Speaker 1>the machines malfunctioning. So a lot of what happened. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I voted in personal election day too, and I witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>firsthand people bout their ballots being rejected constantly by these machines,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it took them hours and hours to finally

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what was wrong. And what the county is

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<v Speaker 1>saying was that the printers were not printing dark enough,

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<v Speaker 1>which is quite odd since they say that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the same settings that they've had it on for the

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<v Speaker 1>primary in August and also the primary and general election

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<v Speaker 1>back in So you know, it's really concerning that the county,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what happened. Besides this, the long lines to

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<v Speaker 1>the long lines are what really doesn't franchise so many people.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the lines were taking some of them are

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<v Speaker 1>up to three or four hours long. People were leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the lines. At the Republican National Committee and Carry Lake

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<v Speaker 1>and Blake Masters, you know, we all wanted to extend

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<v Speaker 1>to voting hours because of these issues, and at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the judge rejected it. So the polls closed at seven PM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I only highlight that because in my race for

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General, I mean, we are down five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten votes, and as you can imagine, I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and twenty voting centers Americopa County. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine it for three hours, you know, just grabbing

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<v Speaker 1>another five voters, you know, it would be pretty impactful

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<v Speaker 1>because on election day here in Arizona, the Republicans we're

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<v Speaker 1>winning seventy five percent to I mean, that's how much

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<v Speaker 1>of a stark difference it was. So that's why you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we filed our lawsuit earlier this week with Republican National

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<v Speaker 1>Committee because ultimately we want every voters, uh there, they're

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<v Speaker 1>votes to actually be counted, and we want justice for

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on election day we all know is a

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<v Speaker 1>botched election. Well, and what's important to point out is

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't just a disenfranchisement of voters. It's a disenfranchisement

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<v Speaker 1>of Republican voters, because as we know from this election

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<v Speaker 1>in the past couple of actions, it's Republicans who are

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<v Speaker 1>turning out on election day at much more significant rates

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<v Speaker 1>than Democrats. Yeah, exactly, and that's you know, across the state,

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<v Speaker 1>we are winning election day voters in every single county,

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<v Speaker 1>right and even Blue County. So and here America seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five percent. I mean, can you imagine seventy That definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had changed and altered the outcome of this election. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ultimately we need to find out what went wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the Hubrists of America, the county is

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<v Speaker 1>what's so shocking is that, you know, the smugness, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to admit fault, and you know, they're telling

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<v Speaker 1>people to put these ballots in the door three. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've heard about that, but the door

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<v Speaker 1>three situation, so that they would be tabulated later on

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<v Speaker 1>and then at the voting centers they were mixing in

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<v Speaker 1>the door three ballots that are uncounted with other ballots

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<v Speaker 1>that were counted. It was just a complete mess. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right now, the certifications are going on across

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<v Speaker 1>the state. UM here in the in the county needs

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<v Speaker 1>and one county just today in Coaches County, they just

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<v Speaker 1>voted to delay certification, which is quite interesting because that's

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<v Speaker 1>never happened as far as I can tell in Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>history because statutorially, they're mandated to UH to certify the

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<v Speaker 1>election twenty days after UM the election day, which would

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<v Speaker 1>be today. So it's it's really interesting, but it's really

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<v Speaker 1>Americopa County's incompetence has thrown Arizona into a laughing stock

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. And what our lawsuit is saying is

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<v Speaker 1>that Arizona shouldn't have to suffer due to the incompetence

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<v Speaker 1>of Americapa County. And you're exactly right. It was Republican

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<v Speaker 1>voters who are disenfranchised, and imagine if this was the

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<v Speaker 1>other way around. And this is this has actually happened before.

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<v Speaker 1>In sixteen, there were long lines because they switched this

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<v Speaker 1>voting center model away from precincts voting. And what happened

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<v Speaker 1>then with a phoenix mayor at the time now Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Stanton, Liberal Democrat. He actually called for a Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice investigation into disenfranchise. So, you know, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting how the media is carrying the latter for Americopa

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<v Speaker 1>County when you know, these the so called guardians of democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the ones who should be asking these questions. Why

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<v Speaker 1>did the machines go down, what were the contingencies, and

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<v Speaker 1>why was there a failure in how to we prefend

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<v Speaker 1>this from happening again? Well, and the Attorney General's office

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<v Speaker 1>is asking these questions. Jennifer Wright, the Assistant Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a letter to Thomas Liddy, the Civil Division Chief,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Maricope Counties Attorney's Office raising a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>concerns about the door three ballots which you mentioned, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the printer configuration settings. Questions about that as

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<v Speaker 1>well as election day checkout procedures that took place as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what the update is on the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General's investigation and the questions that they opposed to Maricopa County. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the county just released a statement answering some of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions yesterday. And it's really interesting because you know, our

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit that we filed with the Republican National Committee, it

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<v Speaker 1>actually alleges many of these issues where the out procedure,

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<v Speaker 1>So once you're going into go voting, to go vote

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<v Speaker 1>at voting center, you have to check in right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that basically says that, Okay, this person voted UM at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, the county has told them that they could

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<v Speaker 1>go to a different location if they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>put their ballot in the box three. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people were leaving the voting centers without having checked

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<v Speaker 1>out because nobody knew first of all, how to check

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<v Speaker 1>people out. It was, you know, pretty complicated. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the county seems to have wanted to they answered this

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<v Speaker 1>question to the A G. S Office. But it's really

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<v Speaker 1>odd because at our lawsuit that we filed last week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we were we were in communication with the

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<v Speaker 1>county and they never told us what the number was.

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<v Speaker 1>But conveniently yesterday told us it was a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two that they that they found who left the

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<v Speaker 1>voting center without checking out, and they counted a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and nine of them, you know, which, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be nice to have that information prior to

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<v Speaker 1>us filing the lawsuit, like we were asking them constantly,

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<v Speaker 1>and we actually learned about that from a newspaper article

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<v Speaker 1>that that they were talking to the media, not to

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<v Speaker 1>the attorneys, but you know, the AG's office. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>they're stepping in right now to to get some of

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<v Speaker 1>these questions answered. But you know, when you have a

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<v Speaker 1>rogue county like Americopa County who doesn't want to admit faults,

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing is kicking the can down the road

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to hope this goes away in time for

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<v Speaker 1>the inauguration. But you know, my race, since it's so close,

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<v Speaker 1>my race is the closest statewide race in Arizona history.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a margin of point zero two percent of votes

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<v Speaker 1>out of two point five million. UM. We are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be going into an automatic recount probably next week,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna take weeks for that too, for that

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<v Speaker 1>to settle as well. But what we're trying to do is,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we all understand that our voters were showing

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<v Speaker 1>up at the voting polls on election day, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>extend the hours, and they had all of these issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly what we just saw was just a total

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<v Speaker 1>disenfranchisement of Republican voters particularly, But I hope the AGS

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<v Speaker 1>office gets the bottom of it, but I'm not confident

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<v Speaker 1>that the county to answer these questions quick break more

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<v Speaker 1>on this crazy election in Arizona. And to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the response from Maricopa County now and

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Lidy, the division chief for the Civil Services Division

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<v Speaker 1>a Meercoba County, is saying that no voter was disenfranchised

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<v Speaker 1>because of the difficulty the county experience with some of

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<v Speaker 1>its printers. But how can you make such a declarative

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<v Speaker 1>statement when we know that there were so many issues

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<v Speaker 1>with the printers, and then also there might have been

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<v Speaker 1>comigling of these ballots, of the door three ballots, So

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<v Speaker 1>how how how is it possible to to make such

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<v Speaker 1>a declarative statement such as that it's because they're hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to sweep this under the road, Lisa, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. I mean what we witnessed and what we

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<v Speaker 1>have people saying is that there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>busses from retirement homes that we're going to the voting locations,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them left without voting because they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't stand in line for two hours, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>three hours. So and there's this They had no timeline

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<v Speaker 1>and when they were gonna get these ballot machines to

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<v Speaker 1>be working in operational again, that's what's concerning. For him

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<v Speaker 1>to make that type of statement without the facts right

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<v Speaker 1>now is pretty shocking, right. I mean, even in our loss,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty measured and what we were alleging. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know this, this is the uh, the Hubrists of

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<v Speaker 1>the county and and I hope that justice is ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>done with what happened. But I mean to to suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that when you have sixty or seventy voting locations out

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<v Speaker 1>of a hundred and twenty have malfunctions for hours before

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually remedied, you know, clearly there were people

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<v Speaker 1>who left the lines, who didn't vote because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>people have other things to do, and uh it is

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<v Speaker 1>they have lives to live. So it is a little

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<v Speaker 1>shocking that they're suggesting this and it has determined the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, five ten votes, this is absolutely this is

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<v Speaker 1>a statistical dead heat, right and uh we know that

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<v Speaker 1>this was you know, clearly affecting Republicans because sevent in

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<v Speaker 1>meercoa County voted for Republicans on election. I try to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful in questioning elections because I believe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>working in the media, responsibility to get my facts straight

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<v Speaker 1>into not you know, unnecessarily cast out on things. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are questions we asked when you know

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<v Speaker 1>there's reports in town. I believe human events rather that

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona's Merica County Recorder Stephen Richer wrych Er whatever his

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<v Speaker 1>name is, and Supervisor Chairman Bill Gates that they had

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<v Speaker 1>started a political action committee to stop Maga County candidates

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand twenty one. Uh, and the whole goal

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<v Speaker 1>was to uh support Republicans running for non federal offices

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<v Speaker 1>who acknowledged the validity of the election and condemned the

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<v Speaker 1>events of January six. So, I mean, you know, these

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the people in charge of Merico County

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<v Speaker 1>and ensuring that, you know, there's integrity in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet they've already declared an animus against candidates, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you who support Trump. So it's hard to have

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in that. Yeah, And I think if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what happened, I mean, those two that you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>or they are Republicans basically a name only at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>if they had spent their efforts in their time to

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<v Speaker 1>actually take you know, issues and take election integrity issues seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>we may not have had the problems we just witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>in Americo, PA County. But instead what they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>was starting a political action committee and trying to promote

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<v Speaker 1>their agenda and try to undermine people like myself, Carry

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<v Speaker 1>Lake and Blake masters Um. So that that's what's so

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<v Speaker 1>appalling about this because and honestly, so this is backfired.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even people who are not skeptical of the

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<v Speaker 1>election now have become you know, skeptics of this election.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this is ultimately back started in a

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<v Speaker 1>big way against these two because I'm telling you, this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be the top issue of voters mind, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in Arizona going forward. I mean, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>can't fathom how the incompetence that was displayed on election

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<v Speaker 1>day and the smugness and the unwillingness to take responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for what occurred, especially given that we know how high

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<v Speaker 1>the stakes are and all the rhetoric you know, going

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<v Speaker 1>around this and a lot of the conspiracies, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of now has come to fruition. So It's really

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<v Speaker 1>made a lot of people who are not conspiracy theorists

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<v Speaker 1>into now being questioning the the elections. So it is

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<v Speaker 1>totally backfired on Bill Gates and Stephen Richard. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is totally their own doing. And can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the people in charge of the elections creating a superpack,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the ones were in charge of tabulating the

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<v Speaker 1>votes creating a superpack to undermine specific candidates who will

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<v Speaker 1>be on that ballot. It it is shocking and it

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<v Speaker 1>shows a clear, you know, display of you know that

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<v Speaker 1>that have no integrity. It is really it's really surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, here in America, the county are elections

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<v Speaker 1>have become a laughing stock all across the country, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's something that we absolutely need to fix.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we thought we were on the right track,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, now look at the consequences of what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democrats have taken over are taking over every single

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<v Speaker 1>statewide office. This is gonna be so detrimental and it's

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<v Speaker 1>due to the incompetence of America accounting well, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course it raises questions because Katie Hobbs

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<v Speaker 1>is the secretary of stage. You know, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>she might end up being the governor of this state now,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was the Democrat candidate in the race. So

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<v Speaker 1>that raises concerns as well that you just have all

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<v Speaker 1>these individuals in charge of elections that already have a

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<v Speaker 1>preconceived animus against the political opponents running in the race

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<v Speaker 1>just obviously cast out. And then to your point earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would make things a lot more believable

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<v Speaker 1>and more trustworthy if the individuals in charge acknowledged their

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<v Speaker 1>errors and acknowledged what seems to be the basic truth

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<v Speaker 1>that there were voters who are disenfranchised just by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>common sense and logic. So I think the outright denial

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<v Speaker 1>of that, obviously, you know, raises additional suspicions and questions.

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<v Speaker 1>People aren't stupid, right, And you know today, actually we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be our case that we filed last week

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday. Today is the first hearing in a few hours,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, we're gonna see the Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Hobbs and my opponents they're seeking emotions dismissed that case.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, there are a lot of issues that

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<v Speaker 1>need to be answered, and that's why you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>feel so strongly about our about our case. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>votes right now, how many ballots have they not counted

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<v Speaker 1>at the county Because of these issues and these errors,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know, you know, I no longer trust what

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<v Speaker 1>the county is saying. So this is why the lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>is necessary for us to go in have discovery and

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<v Speaker 1>to litigate some of these issues. I mean, this has

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<v Speaker 1>ability to have ramifications for the next four years. Right

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<v Speaker 1>with this election, and with this being the closest race

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<v Speaker 1>in statewide history. Of course we're going to file the

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit and fight it. And uh, you know it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to question election. It's really it's really surprising

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<v Speaker 1>because Democrats were the you know, they were the best

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<v Speaker 1>at it for a while. Now. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>remember Outgore in two thousand, remember Stacy Abraham's refusing to concede.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where when we have actionable reports that

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that the machines failed, they were not operational, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have people disenfranchised because they were waiting for hours

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<v Speaker 1>and unsure if they wanted to drop off this ballot

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<v Speaker 1>into a a box three that they didn't know where

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<v Speaker 1>it would go to. Ultimately, you know, it's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>sadly so, because I'm really worried about Republicans not showing

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<v Speaker 1>up to vote anymore because they no longer have trust

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<v Speaker 1>in the system. Because the same people who vote on

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<v Speaker 1>election day already suspicious of you know, early voting and

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<v Speaker 1>mail and voting, and they already suspicious of the voting

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<v Speaker 1>process in general. So now if the courts don't take

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<v Speaker 1>these issues seriously, it's going to destroy whatever faith that

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<v Speaker 1>they had left in our elections. And that's what's so

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<v Speaker 1>status see, and that's why I'm fighting this all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the end to be able to restore confidence

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<v Speaker 1>in our elections, to get justice, and to see what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in November eight. Well, I'm glad you are. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>before we go, I wanted to ask you about that

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<v Speaker 1>conundrum that Republicans are facing because you know, again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the only election really questioned as Republicans initially was which

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<v Speaker 1>was unprecedented with mail and ballots. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>completely a fair to question something that's new people were

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<v Speaker 1>totally unprepared for, and you know, you have issues like

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<v Speaker 1>signature matching and things of that nature, Whereas to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats have question pretty much every election that Republicans have win,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of the y behind it. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you about that conundrum that we're in

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<v Speaker 1>because it's almost like the game has changed since COVID

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<v Speaker 1>and Democrats have been able to win I think in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid terms because they've weaponized mail about it, mail

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<v Speaker 1>and balloting and early voting. I mean, the Republicans in

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<v Speaker 1>some respect have to play that game in order to

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<v Speaker 1>win and to hopefully change it. Absolutely, that's ultimately we

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<v Speaker 1>have to do. And if you look at Florida, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Florida results are beautiful, right, I mean here Ron

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<v Speaker 1>de Santi governor to Santes barely won against Andrew Gilli.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was very close race too, and now

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<v Speaker 1>he defeated Charlie chris By. But isn't it also convenient

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<v Speaker 1>that the voting system was improved and Florida in that

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<v Speaker 1>time period. And uh so that's what that's ultimately what

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<v Speaker 1>what we have to do is you know, actually get

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<v Speaker 1>into office and take power. And if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona and you look how close these margins are five

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<v Speaker 1>ten votes for me and carries down about sixteen thousand votes.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the Democrats. They've they've understood that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about getting voters, it's about getting ballots. And here

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, I don't know, um if I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was widely reported, but the Arizona State University voting

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<v Speaker 1>precinct was going in favor of the Democrats seven percent.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like nine thousand plus of votes went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats and only a few hundred went for the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something that we have to take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at too. How many college kids are voting in multiple

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<v Speaker 1>states right by these mail and ballots that that the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats rely on to win. So now this is why

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<v Speaker 1>it was this election is so critical, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>why we're fighting because we know what the left wants.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to give felons their voting rights right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they felons are have they have been known to have

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<v Speaker 1>been voting in elections even though they're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>in those are illegal ballots. So this you're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to fight fire with fire. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>play the game and the sandbox that they've created until

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<v Speaker 1>we take back power, just like what Ronda Santis was

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<v Speaker 1>able to effectively do back in and now We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>how Florida has become a purple state into bright red

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<v Speaker 1>and that's ultimately what we're hoping for Arizona to become.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know it, it is really it's really scary

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<v Speaker 1>what we've witnessed over the past few weeks and the

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<v Speaker 1>incompetence and the smugness of Americopa County, Lisa, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not gonna put up with it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fighting this in court. I'm glad the Republican National Committee

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<v Speaker 1>is with us, and uh, you know, our recount is

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<v Speaker 1>still going to start next week. But you know that

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<v Speaker 1>it is unimaginable, and I I feel for so many

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona's right now who no longer have faith in our

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<v Speaker 1>in our elections. And you know that is something that

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<v Speaker 1>we're all going to work on to make sure it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you look at all the polling, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie Lake was up in the polls by and to

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<v Speaker 1>have this become totally inverted is just it's shocking, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's almost unbelievable, especially given the botched election

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<v Speaker 1>that we witnessed here in America County. Yeah, I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a ton of questions. And you know, as a

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<v Speaker 1>Florida and I can say governor of Santa's also has

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<v Speaker 1>just done a hell of a job. But to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>that did make a bunch of integrity changes to the elections,

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<v Speaker 1>which is vital and really important. I've got questions about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to Carry Lake as well. Um, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish she was governor. I hope she still could be.

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<v Speaker 1>She she would be amazing. But Abe, I appreciate you're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping up the fight. You have every right to keep

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<v Speaker 1>fighting this out. Five hundred ballots is not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in the grand scheme of things, and in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, they could have just done you dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad you're fighting this and you know, keep

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<v Speaker 1>us updated and thank you for taking the time. Appreciate it. Yeah,

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 1>those ay of him a day running for attorney general.

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<v Speaker 1>And Arizona still you know we're going into a recount.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, who knows what's going to happen, but crazy

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<v Speaker 1>what's been going on in Arizona. I hope you enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. Thanks so much for listening. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>but you can listen throughout the week until next time.