1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I take questioning elections seriously. I don't believe it should 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: be done, and necessarily it's an important thing to raise questions, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: to raise doubt, to cast out on elections. We have 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: to have faith in the election process. We have to 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: have faith in the system. But what happened in Arizona 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: deserves to be questioned. Even Maricopa County election officials have 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: admitted that at least sixty voting locations experienced issues with 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: their ballot on demand printers. The Attorney General's Office also 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: has concerns because they launched an investigation into a series 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: of complaints and raising questions if Maricopa County complied with 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Arizona election law. Instead of being truthful and instead of 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: trying to answer questions, it looks like Maricopa County's leaders 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: are just trying to cover things up. I mean, listen 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: to what Maricopa County Board of Supervisor's chairman Bill Gates 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: had to say. Hi, I'm Bill Gates, and I'm chairman 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, and I want 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: to talk to you today about voters suppress. Unfortunately, that 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: phrase has been thrown around in our county since election 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: day people have claimed that there was voters suppression because 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: we had issues with the printers, which did not reveal 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: themselves when we tested these printers before election day. I 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: hate that this happened, and my colleagues and I are 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: committed to figuring out exactly what happened so that it 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: never happens again. But that does not constitute voter suppression. 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: We know what voter suppression looks like in our country. 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: The inconvenience and the lines that people experience were unfortunate. 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: But the fact is every voter had the opportunity to 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: cast a vote on election day. Now, you gotta remember 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: that Mercoba County is Arizona's most populous county. You also 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: have to remember who's turning out on election day. It's 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Republican voters. It's not Democrats being disenfranchised. Its Republicans. And 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: what raises suspicions is that Thomas Liddy, the division in 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: chief for the Civil Services Division of the Maricoba County's 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Attorney's Office. So he's trying to say that no voter 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: was disenfranchised because of the difficulty the county experienced with 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: some of its printers. How is that possible when you 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: have issues at least sixty voting locations. So even that 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: response from Mericoba County makes no sense. It flies in 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: the face of logic, it flies in the face of 40 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: the truth. So what really happened in Maricoba County and 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: what happened in Arizona, We're gonna get to the bottom 42 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: of it with a Bama Day, who is the Attorney 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: general candidate for Republicans. He's currently facing a recount in 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: the election. He's down by just a little over five votes, 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: so what happened matters a lot to him and could 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: mean if he ends up being the Attorney General or not. 47 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: So he's launched a lawsuit and uh he waiting to 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: see the results of that and also waiting to see 49 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: the results of the recount. But he's not giving up 50 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: the fight, and I don't believe he should because there 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: are questions about what happened in Maricopa County, and it 52 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like the Mericopa County election officials there want 53 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: to give answers. So here's a you know, a right now, 54 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: we've got the certification taking place of what happened in Arizona, 55 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of questions about what went down 56 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: on election day. Maricopa County officials have admitted that at 57 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: least sixty voting locations experienced issues with their ballot on 58 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: demand partners. What happened on election day, Well, that's a 59 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: good question, and you know, a lot more journalist should 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: be asking this because supposedly what happened in a Merricopa 61 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: county was that they tested all the issue all the 62 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: machines and the printers the night before and then suddenly, 63 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: you need imediately, as polls opened up at six am, 64 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: what we saw was so many of the printers and 65 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the machines malfunctioning. So a lot of what happened. I mean, 66 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: I voted in personal election day too, and I witnessed 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: firsthand people bout their ballots being rejected constantly by these machines, 68 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: and so it took them hours and hours to finally 69 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: figure out what was wrong. And what the county is 70 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: saying was that the printers were not printing dark enough, 71 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: which is quite odd since they say that this is 72 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: the same settings that they've had it on for the 73 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 1: primary in August and also the primary and general election 74 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: back in So you know, it's really concerning that the county, 75 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, what happened. Besides this, the long lines to 76 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: the long lines are what really doesn't franchise so many people. 77 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the lines were taking some of them are 78 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: up to three or four hours long. People were leaving 79 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: the lines. At the Republican National Committee and Carry Lake 80 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: and Blake Masters, you know, we all wanted to extend 81 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 1: to voting hours because of these issues, and at the time, 82 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: the judge rejected it. So the polls closed at seven PM. 83 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: And I only highlight that because in my race for 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Attorney General, I mean, we are down five hundred and 85 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: ten votes, and as you can imagine, I mean there's 86 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty voting centers Americopa County. If you 87 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: can imagine it for three hours, you know, just grabbing 88 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: another five voters, you know, it would be pretty impactful 89 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: because on election day here in Arizona, the Republicans we're 90 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: winning seventy five percent to I mean, that's how much 91 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: of a stark difference it was. So that's why you know, 92 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: we filed our lawsuit earlier this week with Republican National 93 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: Committee because ultimately we want every voters, uh there, they're 94 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: votes to actually be counted, and we want justice for 95 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: what happened on election day we all know is a 96 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: botched election. Well, and what's important to point out is 97 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: this isn't just a disenfranchisement of voters. It's a disenfranchisement 98 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: of Republican voters, because as we know from this election 99 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: in the past couple of actions, it's Republicans who are 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: turning out on election day at much more significant rates 101 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: than Democrats. Yeah, exactly, and that's you know, across the state, 102 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: we are winning election day voters in every single county, 103 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: right and even Blue County. So and here America seventy 104 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: five percent. I mean, can you imagine seventy That definitely 105 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: had changed and altered the outcome of this election. But 106 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, ultimately we need to find out what went wrong. 107 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: And I think the Hubrists of America, the county is 108 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: what's so shocking is that, you know, the smugness, they 109 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 1: don't want to admit fault, and you know, they're telling 110 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: people to put these ballots in the door three. I 111 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard about that, but the door 112 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: three situation, so that they would be tabulated later on 113 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: and then at the voting centers they were mixing in 114 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: the door three ballots that are uncounted with other ballots 115 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: that were counted. It was just a complete mess. So 116 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, right now, the certifications are going on across 117 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: the state. UM here in the in the county needs 118 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: and one county just today in Coaches County, they just 119 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: voted to delay certification, which is quite interesting because that's 120 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: never happened as far as I can tell in Arizona 121 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: history because statutorially, they're mandated to UH to certify the 122 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: election twenty days after UM the election day, which would 123 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: be today. So it's it's really interesting, but it's really 124 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Americopa County's incompetence has thrown Arizona into a laughing stock 125 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: across the country. And what our lawsuit is saying is 126 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: that Arizona shouldn't have to suffer due to the incompetence 127 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: of Americapa County. And you're exactly right. It was Republican 128 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: voters who are disenfranchised, and imagine if this was the 129 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: other way around. And this is this has actually happened before. 130 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: In sixteen, there were long lines because they switched this 131 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: voting center model away from precincts voting. And what happened 132 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: then with a phoenix mayor at the time now Congressman 133 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Greg Stanton, Liberal Democrat. He actually called for a Department 134 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: of Justice investigation into disenfranchise. So, you know, it's really 135 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: interesting how the media is carrying the latter for Americopa 136 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: County when you know, these the so called guardians of democracy, 137 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: they're the ones who should be asking these questions. Why 138 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: did the machines go down, what were the contingencies, and 139 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: why was there a failure in how to we prefend 140 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: this from happening again? Well, and the Attorney General's office 141 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: is asking these questions. Jennifer Wright, the Assistant Attorney General, 142 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: wrote a letter to Thomas Liddy, the Civil Division Chief, 143 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: and the Maricope Counties Attorney's Office raising a lot of 144 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: concerns about the door three ballots which you mentioned, as 145 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: well as the printer configuration settings. Questions about that as 146 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: well as election day checkout procedures that took place as well. 147 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: Do you know what the update is on the Attorney 148 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: General's investigation and the questions that they opposed to Maricopa County. Well, 149 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: the county just released a statement answering some of the 150 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: questions yesterday. And it's really interesting because you know, our 151 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: lawsuit that we filed with the Republican National Committee, it 152 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: actually alleges many of these issues where the out procedure, 153 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: So once you're going into go voting, to go vote 154 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: at voting center, you have to check in right, and 155 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: that basically says that, Okay, this person voted UM at 156 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: the time, the county has told them that they could 157 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: go to a different location if they didn't want to 158 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: put their ballot in the box three. So a lot 159 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: of people were leaving the voting centers without having checked 160 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: out because nobody knew first of all, how to check 161 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: people out. It was, you know, pretty complicated. So you know, 162 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: the county seems to have wanted to they answered this 163 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: question to the A G. S Office. But it's really 164 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: odd because at our lawsuit that we filed last week, 165 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, we were we were in communication with the 166 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: county and they never told us what the number was. 167 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: But conveniently yesterday told us it was a hundred and 168 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: twenty two that they that they found who left the 169 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: voting center without checking out, and they counted a hundred 170 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: and nine of them, you know, which, uh, you know, 171 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: it would be nice to have that information prior to 172 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: us filing the lawsuit, like we were asking them constantly, 173 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: and we actually learned about that from a newspaper article 174 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: that that they were talking to the media, not to 175 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: the attorneys, but you know, the AG's office. I'm glad 176 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: they're stepping in right now to to get some of 177 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: these questions answered. But you know, when you have a 178 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: rogue county like Americopa County who doesn't want to admit faults, 179 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing is kicking the can down the road 180 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: and trying to hope this goes away in time for 181 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: the inauguration. But you know, my race, since it's so close, 182 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: my race is the closest statewide race in Arizona history. 183 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: That's a margin of point zero two percent of votes 184 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: out of two point five million. UM. We are going 185 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: to be going into an automatic recount probably next week, 186 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: and it's gonna take weeks for that too, for that 187 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: to settle as well. But what we're trying to do is, 188 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we all understand that our voters were showing 189 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: up at the voting polls on election day, they didn't 190 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: extend the hours, and they had all of these issues, 191 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: and suddenly what we just saw was just a total 192 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: disenfranchisement of Republican voters particularly, But I hope the AGS 193 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: office gets the bottom of it, but I'm not confident 194 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: that the county to answer these questions quick break more 195 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: on this crazy election in Arizona. And to your point, 196 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the response from Maricopa County now and 197 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: Thomas Lidy, the division chief for the Civil Services Division 198 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: a Meercoba County, is saying that no voter was disenfranchised 199 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: because of the difficulty the county experience with some of 200 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: its printers. But how can you make such a declarative 201 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: statement when we know that there were so many issues 202 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: with the printers, and then also there might have been 203 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: comigling of these ballots, of the door three ballots, So 204 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: how how how is it possible to to make such 205 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: a declarative statement such as that it's because they're hoping 206 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: to sweep this under the road, Lisa, But I mean 207 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: you're right. I mean what we witnessed and what we 208 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: have people saying is that there are a lot of 209 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: busses from retirement homes that we're going to the voting locations, 210 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of them left without voting because they 211 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: couldn't stand in line for two hours, you know, or 212 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: three hours. So and there's this They had no timeline 213 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: and when they were gonna get these ballot machines to 214 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: be working in operational again, that's what's concerning. For him 215 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: to make that type of statement without the facts right 216 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: now is pretty shocking, right. I mean, even in our loss, 217 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: it was pretty measured and what we were alleging. But 218 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: you know this, this is the uh, the Hubrists of 219 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: the county and and I hope that justice is ultimately 220 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: done with what happened. But I mean to to suggest 221 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: that when you have sixty or seventy voting locations out 222 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: of a hundred and twenty have malfunctions for hours before 223 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: I was actually remedied, you know, clearly there were people 224 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: who left the lines, who didn't vote because I mean, 225 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: people have other things to do, and uh it is 226 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: they have lives to live. So it is a little 227 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: shocking that they're suggesting this and it has determined the outcome. 228 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, five ten votes, this is absolutely this is 229 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: a statistical dead heat, right and uh we know that 230 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: this was you know, clearly affecting Republicans because sevent in 231 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: meercoa County voted for Republicans on election. I try to 232 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: be careful in questioning elections because I believe, you know, 233 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: working in the media, responsibility to get my facts straight 234 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: into not you know, unnecessarily cast out on things. But 235 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean there are questions we asked when you know 236 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: there's reports in town. I believe human events rather that 237 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: Arizona's Merica County Recorder Stephen Richer wrych Er whatever his 238 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: name is, and Supervisor Chairman Bill Gates that they had 239 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: started a political action committee to stop Maga County candidates 240 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty one. Uh, and the whole goal 241 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: was to uh support Republicans running for non federal offices 242 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: who acknowledged the validity of the election and condemned the 243 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: events of January six. So, I mean, you know, these 244 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: are some of the people in charge of Merico County 245 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: and ensuring that, you know, there's integrity in the process. 246 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Yet they've already declared an animus against candidates, uh, you know, 247 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: like you who support Trump. So it's hard to have 248 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: confidence in that. Yeah, And I think if you look 249 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: at what happened, I mean, those two that you mentioned 250 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: or they are Republicans basically a name only at this point, 251 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: if they had spent their efforts in their time to 252 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: actually take you know, issues and take election integrity issues seriously, 253 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: we may not have had the problems we just witnessed 254 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: in Americo, PA County. But instead what they were doing 255 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: was starting a political action committee and trying to promote 256 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: their agenda and try to undermine people like myself, Carry 257 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Lake and Blake masters Um. So that that's what's so 258 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: appalling about this because and honestly, so this is backfired. 259 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean, even people who are not skeptical of the 260 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: election now have become you know, skeptics of this election. 261 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: So I think this is ultimately back started in a 262 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: big way against these two because I'm telling you, this 263 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be the top issue of voters mind, at 264 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: least in Arizona going forward. I mean, I just I 265 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: can't fathom how the incompetence that was displayed on election 266 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: day and the smugness and the unwillingness to take responsibility 267 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: for what occurred, especially given that we know how high 268 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: the stakes are and all the rhetoric you know, going 269 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: around this and a lot of the conspiracies, but a 270 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: lot of now has come to fruition. So It's really 271 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: made a lot of people who are not conspiracy theorists 272 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: into now being questioning the the elections. So it is 273 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: totally backfired on Bill Gates and Stephen Richard. But you know, 274 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: this is totally their own doing. And can you imagine 275 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: the people in charge of the elections creating a superpack, 276 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, the ones were in charge of tabulating the 277 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: votes creating a superpack to undermine specific candidates who will 278 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: be on that ballot. It it is shocking and it 279 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: shows a clear, you know, display of you know that 280 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: that have no integrity. It is really it's really surprising. 281 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: But you know, here in America, the county are elections 282 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: have become a laughing stock all across the country, and 283 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's something that we absolutely need to fix. 284 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: And you know, we thought we were on the right track, 285 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: but you know, now look at the consequences of what's happened. 286 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: The Democrats have taken over are taking over every single 287 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: statewide office. This is gonna be so detrimental and it's 288 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: due to the incompetence of America accounting well, you know. 289 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: And then of course it raises questions because Katie Hobbs 290 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: is the secretary of stage. You know, it looks like 291 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: she might end up being the governor of this state now, 292 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: but she was the Democrat candidate in the race. So 293 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: that raises concerns as well that you just have all 294 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: these individuals in charge of elections that already have a 295 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: preconceived animus against the political opponents running in the race 296 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: just obviously cast out. And then to your point earlier, 297 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: I think it would make things a lot more believable 298 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: and more trustworthy if the individuals in charge acknowledged their 299 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: errors and acknowledged what seems to be the basic truth 300 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: that there were voters who are disenfranchised just by you know, 301 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: common sense and logic. So I think the outright denial 302 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: of that, obviously, you know, raises additional suspicions and questions. 303 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: People aren't stupid, right, And you know today, actually we're 304 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: going to be our case that we filed last week 305 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Today is the first hearing in a few hours, 306 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: so you know, we're gonna see the Secretary of State 307 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: Katie Hobbs and my opponents they're seeking emotions dismissed that case. 308 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, there are a lot of issues that 309 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: need to be answered, and that's why you know, we 310 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: feel so strongly about our about our case. I mean 311 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: votes right now, how many ballots have they not counted 312 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: at the county Because of these issues and these errors, 313 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: we don't know, you know, I no longer trust what 314 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: the county is saying. So this is why the lawsuit 315 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 1: is necessary for us to go in have discovery and 316 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: to litigate some of these issues. I mean, this has 317 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: ability to have ramifications for the next four years. Right 318 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: with this election, and with this being the closest race 319 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: in statewide history. Of course we're going to file the 320 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: lawsuit and fight it. And uh, you know it is, 321 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, to question election. It's really it's really surprising 322 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: because Democrats were the you know, they were the best 323 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: at it for a while. Now. I mean, if you 324 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: remember Outgore in two thousand, remember Stacy Abraham's refusing to concede. 325 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: So this is where when we have actionable reports that 326 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: suggests that the machines failed, they were not operational, and 327 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: you have people disenfranchised because they were waiting for hours 328 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: and unsure if they wanted to drop off this ballot 329 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: into a a box three that they didn't know where 330 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: it would go to. Ultimately, you know, it's it's really 331 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: sadly so, because I'm really worried about Republicans not showing 332 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: up to vote anymore because they no longer have trust 333 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: in the system. Because the same people who vote on 334 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: election day already suspicious of you know, early voting and 335 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: mail and voting, and they already suspicious of the voting 336 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: process in general. So now if the courts don't take 337 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: these issues seriously, it's going to destroy whatever faith that 338 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: they had left in our elections. And that's what's so 339 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: status see, and that's why I'm fighting this all the 340 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: way to the end to be able to restore confidence 341 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: in our elections, to get justice, and to see what 342 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: happened in November eight. Well, I'm glad you are. You know, 343 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: before we go, I wanted to ask you about that 344 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: conundrum that Republicans are facing because you know, again, you know, 345 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: the only election really questioned as Republicans initially was which 346 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: was unprecedented with mail and ballots. So I think it's 347 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: completely a fair to question something that's new people were 348 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: totally unprepared for, and you know, you have issues like 349 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: signature matching and things of that nature, Whereas to your point, 350 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: Democrats have question pretty much every election that Republicans have win, 351 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: regardless of the y behind it. But you know, I 352 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: want to ask you about that conundrum that we're in 353 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: because it's almost like the game has changed since COVID 354 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: and Democrats have been able to win I think in 355 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the mid terms because they've weaponized mail about it, mail 356 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: and balloting and early voting. I mean, the Republicans in 357 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: some respect have to play that game in order to 358 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: win and to hopefully change it. Absolutely, that's ultimately we 359 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: have to do. And if you look at Florida, I mean, 360 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: the Florida results are beautiful, right, I mean here Ron 361 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: de Santi governor to Santes barely won against Andrew Gilli. 362 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean that was very close race too, and now 363 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: he defeated Charlie chris By. But isn't it also convenient 364 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: that the voting system was improved and Florida in that 365 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: time period. And uh so that's what that's ultimately what 366 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: what we have to do is you know, actually get 367 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: into office and take power. And if you look at 368 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: Arizona and you look how close these margins are five 369 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: ten votes for me and carries down about sixteen thousand votes. 370 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: But you know, the Democrats. They've they've understood that it's 371 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: not about getting voters, it's about getting ballots. And here 372 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: in Arizona, I don't know, um if I don't think 373 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: it was widely reported, but the Arizona State University voting 374 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: precinct was going in favor of the Democrats seven percent. 375 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: It was like nine thousand plus of votes went to 376 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: the Democrats and only a few hundred went for the Republicans. 377 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: And that's something that we have to take a look 378 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: at too. How many college kids are voting in multiple 379 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: states right by these mail and ballots that that the 380 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: Democrats rely on to win. So now this is why 381 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: it was this election is so critical, and this is 382 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: why we're fighting because we know what the left wants. 383 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: They want to give felons their voting rights right, and 384 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: they felons are have they have been known to have 385 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: been voting in elections even though they're not allowed to 386 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: in those are illegal ballots. So this you're exactly right. 387 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: We have to fight fire with fire. We have to 388 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: play the game and the sandbox that they've created until 389 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: we take back power, just like what Ronda Santis was 390 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: able to effectively do back in and now We've seen 391 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: how Florida has become a purple state into bright red 392 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: and that's ultimately what we're hoping for Arizona to become. 393 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: But you know it, it is really it's really scary 394 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: what we've witnessed over the past few weeks and the 395 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: incompetence and the smugness of Americopa County, Lisa, and uh, 396 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna put up with it. I'm 397 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: fighting this in court. I'm glad the Republican National Committee 398 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: is with us, and uh, you know, our recount is 399 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: still going to start next week. But you know that 400 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: it is unimaginable, and I I feel for so many 401 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Arizona's right now who no longer have faith in our 402 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: in our elections. And you know that is something that 403 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: we're all going to work on to make sure it happens. 404 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: Because if you look at all the polling, I mean, 405 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Carrie Lake was up in the polls by and to 406 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: have this become totally inverted is just it's shocking, and 407 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost unbelievable, especially given the botched election 408 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: that we witnessed here in America County. Yeah, I've I've 409 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: got a ton of questions. And you know, as a 410 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Florida and I can say governor of Santa's also has 411 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: just done a hell of a job. But to your point, 412 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: that did make a bunch of integrity changes to the elections, 413 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: which is vital and really important. I've got questions about 414 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: what happened to Carry Lake as well. Um, I you know, 415 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: I wish she was governor. I hope she still could be. 416 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: She she would be amazing. But Abe, I appreciate you're 417 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: keeping up the fight. You have every right to keep 418 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: fighting this out. Five hundred ballots is not a lot 419 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, and in the way 420 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: that you know, they could have just done you dirty. 421 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're fighting this and you know, keep 422 00:22:47,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: us updated and thank you for taking the time. Appreciate it. Yeah, 423 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: those ay of him a day running for attorney general. 424 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: And Arizona still you know we're going into a recount. 425 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: You know, who knows what's going to happen, but crazy 426 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: what's been going on in Arizona. I hope you enjoyed 427 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: the episode. Thanks so much for listening. 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