WEBVTT - 033024 Some Happier Headlines (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>People on riding with us as we continue to broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>the balance and defend the discourse from these hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>weekly studios. Welcome back to Civic Cipher. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsy's job. He is Ramsey's jaw.

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<v Speaker 2>I am q Ward. You are tuned into Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're still tuned in read it's better if

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<v Speaker 1>you're just tuning in for wine because you need to

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<v Speaker 1>learn a less Okay, you need to learn where we

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, I need you to stick around because

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to be discussing some brighter moments that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened recently in the news, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>share the headlines and the stories behind them. It's important

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<v Speaker 1>for us to share positive outcomes as well black people

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<v Speaker 1>who weren't just born to live hard lives and then die.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's all try to smile. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Jonathan. Jonathan is an older man, an

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<v Speaker 1>very encouraging, and we read that letter on the show before.

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<v Speaker 1>But after reading that letter, he emailed us again and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is I'm a little old. I don't use VENMO,

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<v Speaker 1>can I support you fiscally? Would you take a check? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is like three months ago. We got the

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<v Speaker 1>check and I wanted to read this and share this

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<v Speaker 1>with him, so he hears it. Ke warden Rams's job

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<v Speaker 1>finally sending you a check. Honored to be your first

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<v Speaker 1>actual paper check. Hope you're well. Happy new Year. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it's a good one for you, full of love, peace, safety, pleasure, happiness,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have many more take care of Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless Jonathan, and a handwritten note with a paper

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<v Speaker 1>check and it went to a po box and you

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<v Speaker 1>left it there for months because we you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought this was the sweetest thing. And Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the example of becoming a better ally. We

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<v Speaker 1>need more people like you, and God bless you too. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's talk about some things that have

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<v Speaker 1>happened again. These I don't want to call it good news,

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<v Speaker 1>but closure. Maybe closure. That's a good one. Thank you man,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. All right, So I'm gonna share a bit

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<v Speaker 1>from CNN from these happier headlines. We have here a

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<v Speaker 1>momentous day. All six rogue Mississippi officers got long prison

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<v Speaker 1>sentences in goon squad torture of two black men. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of words there. The main one

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<v Speaker 1>is Mississippi, the second one is officers, and then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>prison sentences is something you don't expect to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that laugh is like ironic and almost sarcastic

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<v Speaker 2>because Ramses and I had a run in with Mississippi

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement. It's not pleasant, it was not funny, it

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<v Speaker 2>was not enjoyable. And some of our friends were actually terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll tell that story another time, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times before. But yeah, Mississippi and officers, that chuckle

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<v Speaker 2>is quite ironic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And for folks who listened to the first part

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, that example illustrates how sometimes you have

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<v Speaker 1>to accept disrespect, you have to suppress your desire to

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<v Speaker 1>have a degree of dignity in order to survive. We

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<v Speaker 1>had to do that so we can make it home. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>we did. Yeah, So this is what we have to

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<v Speaker 1>teach our children. So hopefully you understand. Again, for those

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<v Speaker 1>who listen to the first part of the show anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I will read a bit more so. Joshua Hartfield, the

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<v Speaker 1>last of six white former Mississippi law enforcement officers sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>in the torture of two black men in January twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, received a ten year prison term in federal

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<v Speaker 1>court Thursday afternoon hearing capped and emotional, three days during

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<v Speaker 1>which vivid accounts of the horrifying brutality of a self

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<v Speaker 1>styled gooon squad of deputies gripped a packed court room,

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<v Speaker 1>where the highest ranking officer on the scene, Brett Macalpan,

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to more than twenty seven years in prison

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<v Speaker 1>earlier Thursday, Shackled around around his waist and hands, Hartfield

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<v Speaker 1>choked up and sobbed when he began to address the court.

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<v Speaker 1>I already know you were going to want to say

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<v Speaker 1>something cute. I just could see you anyway. Here's this quote.

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<v Speaker 1>He says. All I wanted to do was help people.

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<v Speaker 1>I failed to help the two people who needed me

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<v Speaker 1>the most, all right. The defendants rated a home in

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<v Speaker 1>Braxton in January twenty twenty three without a warrant, subjected

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<v Speaker 1>the two black men to racist vitrol, used tasers on

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<v Speaker 1>them after they had already been handcuffed, beat them with

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<v Speaker 1>various objects, and shot Jenkins in the mouth. Prosecutor said,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Jenkins and mister Parker would like mister Jenkins and

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<v Speaker 1>mister Parker, I would like to apologize to you both,

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<v Speaker 1>Hartfield said. The officers went to the home after a

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor reported several black men were staying at a white

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<v Speaker 1>woman's home and reported seeing suspicious behavior. The officers kicked

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<v Speaker 1>in the door of a home where two black men

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<v Speaker 1>were staying and subjected them to an hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half of torture. So we're not giving you all the

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<v Speaker 1>details We've covered this story on this show and on

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Information Network, and you know, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get like the really graphic, gruesome details beyond this article,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just look up the Mississippi Goon Squad. Not

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<v Speaker 1>to be confused the Gilbert Goons in Gilbert, Arizona. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we don't see you. Unfortunately, don't think we don't

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<v Speaker 1>see you out there in Gilbert. We're close anyway. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that you would get a kick out of

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<v Speaker 1>his statement. All I wanted to do was help people.

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<v Speaker 1>I failed to help the two people who needed me.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, the second part of that statement actually moves

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<v Speaker 2>me in a way that's different than you might expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, talk to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Accountability does not always show up at all. So after

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<v Speaker 2>he's been handcuffed, shackled and sentenced, some accountability show because

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<v Speaker 2>he could have stood on what he did and not

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<v Speaker 2>understood why it was a big deal at all, and saying,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it was performative, that the two people that

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<v Speaker 2>needed him the most were the two people that they

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<v Speaker 2>tortured and beat and shot. That's a lot for him

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<v Speaker 2>to stand up and say in the wake of just

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<v Speaker 2>being sentenced to twenty seven years. He could have been

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<v Speaker 2>angry and said something way different. I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>help people, and I did it, and I didn't help

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<v Speaker 2>the two people that needed it the most. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually big of him, especially in a case where

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<v Speaker 2>there is some sense of accountability. I think in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of cases this ends different because there are no

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<v Speaker 2>living victims afterward, so the justice quote unquote doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>show up because there's no account other than that of

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<v Speaker 2>the police and what we can kind of put together

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves through evidence. The fact that they tortured these guys

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<v Speaker 2>and allowed them to live after as far as accountability goes,

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<v Speaker 2>is a massive mistake on their part and why twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven years is a sentence and not four. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's actually very big of him to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 2>the two people that needed him the most were the

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<v Speaker 2>two people that he and his crohonies or colleagues or

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<v Speaker 2>goons or whatever they call themselves subjected these men to.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the part where so I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. However, this is the part and the

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<v Speaker 1>point in the conversation where I was expecting maybe something different,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason for that is because this officer was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the Goon squad. So to me, my

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<v Speaker 1>powers of deduction, knowing the Goon Squad and how they've moved,

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<v Speaker 1>and that this is not an isolated incident. Again, my

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<v Speaker 1>powers of deduction would suggest to me that this was

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<v Speaker 1>something that he was along the ride for, he was

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<v Speaker 1>complicit in, he participated in, and before hearing that sensets

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<v Speaker 1>it's because your life is gone. When you have a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven year sentence, that's really it for you. The

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<v Speaker 1>last thing that you did was the worst thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you did, and it's the thing that you'll be known for,

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<v Speaker 1>and that will be the story. May as well go

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<v Speaker 1>on your tombstone, right, so people do have time to reflect.

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<v Speaker 1>And again you're not wrong. That's not nothing. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want I don't believe. Rather that he was he

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<v Speaker 1>just showed up on the scene, saw this happening and

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<v Speaker 1>was intimidated by his fellow officers and didn't say anything

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<v Speaker 1>that would make more sense to me him saying I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't help the people. I believe that because he was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the Goon squad and this is what

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<v Speaker 1>they did, and this is what they were known for.

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<v Speaker 1>That there was probably so that's what that's the angle.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to say, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>words would ring more hollow.

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<v Speaker 2>This was like a defense, right, Yeah, that's when they

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was like, look, man, I just I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I was much it'd be different after the sentencing. These

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<v Speaker 2>words ring a little different because you don't even have to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about you accepting accountability at this point, the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven years have been.

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<v Speaker 1>You've already already guilty, here, already guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>For these words to come and wake of that, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they ring a little different than if they had

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<v Speaker 2>been his defense in the beginning, or him pleading for

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<v Speaker 2>a lesser sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know that he didn't do that, No, no, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>but I suspect that. Well, there's six of them, so

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<v Speaker 1>from what I understand that, you know, all of them

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to wiggle out of it somehow and shift

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<v Speaker 1>the blame around. But that is not nothing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all sentenced, and you know there are two living

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<v Speaker 1>black men who endured something horrible, but they're still alive,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's that's not nothing. So that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>can't call it a you know, a good sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's not celebratory, right, because it's in

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<v Speaker 2>the wake of something awful happening to us. Again, but

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of these cases, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when the victims don't survive, Yeah, then it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot the accountability is a lot less. Even when found

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<v Speaker 2>guilty in cases like this, the sentencing is typically very light.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about multiple years even when found guilty of

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<v Speaker 2>murder and manslaughter. So you know, in the case where

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<v Speaker 2>you got two living victims, an officer getting twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>years is some form of justice and accountability which we

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<v Speaker 2>don't typically see in cases like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So another more positive headline. This comes from CBS Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Conservative activist Kyle Rittenhouse cut short a speaking event on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night at the University of Memphis after he was

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<v Speaker 1>drowned out by angry protests and activists. Now that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it says. Wow. CBS affiliate WRIGTV reports Writtenhouse was invited

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<v Speaker 1>to speak by the campus organization of conservative advocacy group

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<v Speaker 1>Turning Point USA. Rittenhouse was acquitted about felloony charges for

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<v Speaker 1>shooting three people, killing two of them in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>during protests over the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Rittenhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>who was seventeen at the time of the shootings, had

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<v Speaker 1>claimed he shot the men in self defense. WRIGTV reported

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<v Speaker 1>his appearance at the University Memphis had sparked weeks of controversy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was quickly shouted down at the UC Theater

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday evening when he told the audience he quote was

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<v Speaker 1>violently attacked by a mob of rioters unquote in Kenosha.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of the planned speech, the event swiftly moved to

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<v Speaker 1>a Q and A session, but Rittenhouse was ushered off

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<v Speaker 1>the stage after about thirty minutes, after protest repeatedly yelled

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<v Speaker 1>and booed and uh, it's nice to know that people.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not surprising that it would take place

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<v Speaker 1>on a college campus, but still it's nice to know

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<v Speaker 1>the people are not accepting that this worst timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a strange juxtaposition though, because a college organization

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<v Speaker 2>brought him to cam.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the weird partner.

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<v Speaker 2>So a weird thing to witness this guy be somehow

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<v Speaker 2>made an activist and hero for going home, getting a gun,

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<v Speaker 2>going to a place and killing people and then making

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<v Speaker 2>himself somehow the victim and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hero in this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Is really insane, But it's not the first time we

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<v Speaker 2>saw something like this happen, where these people get to

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<v Speaker 2>do horrible things to us, zero accountability and somehow become

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<v Speaker 2>heroes and go on speaking tours and sign autographs. We

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<v Speaker 2>saw this happen in the wake of Trayvon Martin. We've

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<v Speaker 2>now seen this in the case with this young man,

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<v Speaker 2>and where the political backing kind of hals these guys

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<v Speaker 2>up and lifts them up as heroes too. It gives

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<v Speaker 2>you an idea and to the mindset of tens of

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<v Speaker 2>millions of people in this country who think that things

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<v Speaker 2>like this should be celebrated in that these guys should

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<v Speaker 2>be labeled heroes. Right, if that kid really made a

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<v Speaker 2>mistake and went there and was defending himself, you think

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be a bit more somber, a bit more apologetic,

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<v Speaker 2>a bit more sorry at the way they's played out.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking a life, allowing himself to be made a hero

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of living in it and making money off

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<v Speaker 2>ros is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, if I got to be known for something,

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I want to be known for is

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<v Speaker 1>an ending a life that just feels a little low vibrational.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, shout out to the students at

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Memphis for showing up and showing out

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<v Speaker 1>and not letting him get off his nonsense. That's not nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, There's been some colleges around the country,

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<v Speaker 3>some college campuses that have been showing up. Man, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure that I shout out all the

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<v Speaker 3>college campuses. I know there's a couple in California that

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<v Speaker 3>have been I think it's called BDS or something, divestment

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<v Speaker 3>and sanctions for the State of Israel so that Palestine

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<v Speaker 3>can get aid. And you know, there's these calls for

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<v Speaker 3>a c fire, and so these students are organizing on

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<v Speaker 3>their campus not to do business effectively, not to do

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<v Speaker 3>business with Israel and hurt their pockets. And we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this last week. So if Suzanne Oslin was listening,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry that I'm not articulating it the way

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<v Speaker 3>that you did. But I know that there's other college

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<v Speaker 3>campuses around that are.

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<v Speaker 1>Is booming right now. So shout out to all the

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<v Speaker 1>student activists out there that are letting your voices be heard.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to support you, and we feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>support us, and we're all going to get where we

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<v Speaker 1>need to where we need to be at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. All right, let me share this last

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<v Speaker 1>one with you. This one comes from the Black Information Network,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is kind of a BABA, but it's making headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>so you and Chief Antonio Gutierrez is calling for reparations

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<v Speaker 1>over the Transatlantic slave trade to quote help overcome generations

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<v Speaker 1>of exclusion and discrimination unquote. On March twenty fifth, Gutier's

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<v Speaker 1>made the call for reparations amid the UN International Day

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<v Speaker 1>of Remembrance of Thectims of Slavery. Gutierrez said the Transatlantic

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<v Speaker 1>slave trade laid the foundations for a violent discrimination system

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<v Speaker 1>based on white supremacy. It goes on to say, we

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<v Speaker 1>call for repertory justice frameworks to help overcome generations of

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<v Speaker 1>exclusion and discrimination. Experts say at least twelve point five

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<v Speaker 1>million Africans were kidnapped forcibly, transported by European ships and merchants,

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<v Speaker 1>and sold into slavery between the fifteenth and nineteenth centuries.

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<v Speaker 1>A UN report released in September suggested countries consider slavery reparations. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the movement that will signal finally the collective

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<v Speaker 1>victory of humanity, of good over evil. Hillary Beckel's chair

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<v Speaker 1>of the Reparations Commission of the Caribbean Community Political and

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<v Speaker 1>Economic Union, previously said at the UN govern Assembly, So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, please, because I definitely have something to say on

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<v Speaker 2>this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, let me just get a couple of bars

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<v Speaker 1>off and then we'll go to you. But this call

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<v Speaker 1>is not just to the US. It's to Portugal, it's

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<v Speaker 1>to Great Britain, it's all the countries that were involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the slave trade. I also want to say for

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<v Speaker 1>people that push back and say Africans weren't kidnap blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blahs and the other that is not true for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that thinks of African slaves, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>that push back against this, I argue that you've been

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<v Speaker 1>taught to undervalue African life and so the word African

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<v Speaker 1>may not trigger the emotional response that it does for

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<v Speaker 1>us and people who have not been conditioned in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that you are. So I ask you perform a

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<v Speaker 1>thought experiment going through all of this, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>your beliefs, and change the word African slave to sex slave,

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<v Speaker 1>and then see if you feel the same way. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that's a very powerful visual and mental stimulating exercise

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<v Speaker 2>that you just expressed, and I hope people actually do it,

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<v Speaker 2>or replace African with child or.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything other than African, because you've been taught to devalue us,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have not yet been taught to devalue the

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<v Speaker 1>life of a child or a sex slave or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You usedill have empathy for those humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right, God, I'm not looking forward to the

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<v Speaker 2>show that we have to do when this is somehow

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<v Speaker 2>brought to a vote and the country that doesn't say

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<v Speaker 2>yes is the one that we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important that this is not just a

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<v Speaker 2>call to the US, because I've lived in these other countries,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I've lived in Spain, spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time in Portugal. I know how the Portuguese feel about

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<v Speaker 2>their history. They probably aren't they probably helped author this, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I know how almost every other developed economic powerhouse in

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<v Speaker 2>the world feels about parts of their history that are

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<v Speaker 2>similar to this, even if they're not as grotesque, And

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<v Speaker 2>they disavow and they stand against and they highlight so

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<v Speaker 2>that so that the people know, so that the children know,

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<v Speaker 2>so that everybody understands that these moments were awful, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they learn and propel forward from those where this

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<v Speaker 2>country tries to pretend it didn't happen, make light of it,

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<v Speaker 2>tell us all the benefits that we got from being

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<v Speaker 2>made slaves. And I am not looking forward to us

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<v Speaker 2>having to do a show where somehow this becomes something

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<v Speaker 2>real in the UN and the United States is the

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<v Speaker 2>country that doesn't raise its hand when it's time.

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<v Speaker 1>To say yay on something like this. You know the

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing, I have to have this conversation tomorrow. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to add a conversation all the time. But on

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<v Speaker 1>our other show that we do, voting matters. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>that the Supreme Court is packing down all of our

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<v Speaker 1>rights and equitable access to different levels of society is

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<v Speaker 1>because there are people who didn't vote in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>people who the stakes weren't high enough, they didn't affect them.

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<v Speaker 1>And not just that Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>We've spoken before, and our people say proudly all the

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<v Speaker 2>time that we are not a monolith.

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<v Speaker 1>We should be we should think that is that is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of We're getting kind of tight out here, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>We are very splintered and very very particular about the

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<v Speaker 2>things that we will support and the other side is not.

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<v Speaker 2>They are singular and their hate for us and their

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<v Speaker 2>disdain for us, and in their mission to keep us

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<v Speaker 2>under their boot and under their thumb. And because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>we took emails from a female presidential candidate and made

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<v Speaker 2>that a disqualifier for her, and we have not done

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<v Speaker 2>the same for the nineteen and counting federal criminal indictments

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<v Speaker 2>for another candidate who has already been president is very

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<v Speaker 2>very popular and leading the way to become that again, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so that president was not polite, it was not decent,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not honest, it's not honorable, and is the

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<v Speaker 2>reason we have such a lopsided Supreme Court and the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why things that a lot of you probably thought

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<v Speaker 2>were made law have been overturned with regards to the eye,

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<v Speaker 2>affirmative action and women's rights in this country. So we

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<v Speaker 2>need to figure out a way to become more united

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<v Speaker 2>on something and become more organized and more and mobilize

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<v Speaker 2>better and getting the outcomes that we want in this

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<v Speaker 2>country because we are losing that fight in a very

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<v Speaker 2>very aggressive way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're absolutely right. There's as frustrating as it is,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you have, let's say you have two candidates

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't want to vote for neither of them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you still have to accept the fact that voting is

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to shape outcomes in a democracy. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the game that everyone is playing, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't participate, then other people shape your reality too. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's just realiity we have to deal with, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to leave it right there. So as always,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to thank you for rocking out with this

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<v Speaker 1>one more again here on Civic Cipher, I have been

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