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Speaker 1: talk about today, Tyler? Entire little Mike Evans, polarizing player. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like it, and I've got very strong feelings on
Speaker 1: this and we'll see if they match up with with
Speaker 1: your observations. So, um, let's start here. Let's do a
Speaker 1: let's do a deeper dive on his season last year
Speaker 1: and what will have been his last season with Tom Brady. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he finishes with the wide receiver seventeen last season,
Speaker 1: wideceiver fourteen and average points per game. But he would
Speaker 1: he didn't like he did, but he did not because
Speaker 1: if you remember Week seventeen, ten catch two seven yards,
Speaker 1: three touchdown, nuclear explosion, right, the Fantasy League winner that game,
Speaker 1: consolation championship. Yeah, well, it depends, you know, it depends
Speaker 1: on if you're playing, You're you're hopefully you're not playing
Speaker 1: your Week eighteen you're not playing your championship in week eighteen,
Speaker 1: we hope not anyway. Ten catches, two hundred and sevent
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. That's certainly. That certainly skews it.
Speaker 1: How about before that though, So before that game, he
Speaker 1: was the wide receiver thirty six thirty six and average
Speaker 1: points per game and he finishes the dciver fourteen. That's
Speaker 1: eighteen yeah, one in geez in one game. That is crazy.
Speaker 1: That is crazy, And it tells you a little bit
Speaker 1: about why you have to be wary of the points,
Speaker 1: the average, the average Fantasy production per game when you
Speaker 1: trended across the whole season. I think, for me, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's because of my Guillotine League leanings, I want
Speaker 1: steady performers every week. And that's the opposite of Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Man, did he have some dude games.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. There's just the offensive was not the
Speaker 1: same Lester. He was going pretty high in drafts. Oh
Speaker 1: it was him, and he was going way above Chris Godwin.
Speaker 1: I think Chris Godwin, I don't think you finished. Godwin
Speaker 1: is coming out the ACL injury and fairness exactly so.
Speaker 1: And I mean, there's all this talk of Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: Russell Gage, just old line, the running backs, like everyone though,
Speaker 1: there's going to run it back. There were to be
Speaker 1: an NFC championship game again, and it was just gonna
Speaker 1: be all the happy times going forward. But it was
Speaker 1: not that. It was not that by any means. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I thought the offensive line worries turned out to
Speaker 1: be dead on. I mean that offensive line was awful
Speaker 1: and that and certainly affected the passing game, infected the
Speaker 1: offense um. All right, well let's talk about this. What
Speaker 1: kind of player do we have in Mike Evans. Well,
Speaker 1: I was looking at some of this stuff. I was
Speaker 1: looking at reception, perception. Matt Harman does a great job
Speaker 1: over there. You can pay for it, but it's a
Speaker 1: great job. He looked at. He breaks down a route trees,
Speaker 1: kind of how we talked about with Jamison Williams earlier.
Speaker 1: And during his first two seasons with Tom Brady, he
Speaker 1: ran go balls on eighteen point five percent of his
Speaker 1: routes in twenty twenty twenty one percent in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, that went all the way up
Speaker 1: to twenty eight percent. When the old line was seemingly worse.
Speaker 1: You would think they'd want to do more quick passes,
Speaker 1: and I just send him down the field. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna have time to hit the ball right,
Speaker 1: So that I thought that was very interesting. He also
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon also wrote in that article he also struggled
Speaker 1: on digs and out routes more than he had in
Speaker 1: the past, which could be indicator of declining and he
Speaker 1: needs to be thirty this season. I'm worried if you
Speaker 1: ask me whether or not Mike Evans has got one
Speaker 1: more big season left in him. Nope, Yeah, I'm with
Speaker 1: you on this one. I don't I've never really been
Speaker 1: on Mike Evans. I don't know why. I think it's
Speaker 1: because I value receptions and target share a lot. And
Speaker 1: it felt like even when Tom Brady was there, it
Speaker 1: was two yard fades touchdowns in the back of the
Speaker 1: end zone, which I mean you could kind of count
Speaker 1: on for the whole career. Well, no, and it's what
Speaker 1: that big body he is. That was one of the
Speaker 1: things you could countdown was touchdowns because he could box
Speaker 1: out defenders so easily win those jump balls. I loved
Speaker 1: that part of Mike evans career. I'm just worried now
Speaker 1: for even a guy who hasn't relied on speed and
Speaker 1: was won with physical play. But there's a point at
Speaker 1: which you have to have enough speeds you can separate,
Speaker 1: and if you don't, then the wheels just come off.
Speaker 1: And I look at the identically built Brandon Marshall, and
Speaker 1: I mean identically built. They are to the pound, to
Speaker 1: the exact same height. He hit the wall at age
Speaker 1: thirty one, and it was game over for Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 1: At that point he couldn't separate anymore and his productivity
Speaker 1: ended and he was He had been winning with physical play,
Speaker 1: not speed, But you have to be able to get
Speaker 1: some separation. My worry on Evans is that he's already
Speaker 1: here at age thirty. He's right where Brandon Marshall was.
Speaker 1: And I don't trust the quarterbacks that they have in
Speaker 1: Cleveland to make the situation any better for Mike Evans
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. Sorry, copy, Yes, I'm totally with you
Speaker 1: on the quarterback thing. I dug into the numbers. These
Speaker 1: are Baker Mayfield's wide receiver and there finishes all average
Speaker 1: points per game twenty nineteen. Jarvis Lanzi twenty two OBJ
Speaker 1: wide receiver thirty three not great. Twenty twenty, Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: wide receiver thirty eight, OBJ wide receiver thirty nine, that's
Speaker 1: not good twenty twenty one, Jarvis Lanzry wide receiver thirty nine,
Speaker 1: Don and People's Jones wide receiver seventy eight terrible twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. DJ Moore wide deceiver fifty three. Over the
Speaker 1: first five weeks that Mayfield was the starter, right, atrocious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are of terrible numbers, and it suggests that Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield can't power a wide receiver to a meaningful play. Now, granted,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans is way better than all of these players
Speaker 1: outside of DJ Moore, better than a hobbled ob j
Speaker 1: better than Jarvis Landry, so he's better. He is better.
Speaker 1: But I would say that it feels like Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: is like if he's going to support anyone, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry WI sever twenty two, it isn't that bad.
Speaker 1: It feels like he kind of needs more of like
Speaker 1: the over the field, middle of the guy, the slot guy,
Speaker 1: the short routes kind of the stuff that Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: was doing in Cleveland, and Mike Evans is not going
Speaker 1: to do that. I struggle, and I worry that Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield can't throw the ball deep down the field, which
Speaker 1: is where Mike Evans really excels at. Last year on
Speaker 1: deep passes, Baker Mayfield graded out by Pro Football Focus
Speaker 1: again on deep passes thirty second. Now I have reason
Speaker 1: to believe there are thirty two teams in the NFL
Speaker 1: tyler that would make him last way do the math
Speaker 1: real quicks out a nice um. So there's there's reason
Speaker 1: to doubt that Baker Mayfield can power Mike Evans to
Speaker 1: a resurgent ear, which worries me as well. Let's talk
Speaker 1: ADP and some of the players going around Mike. By
Speaker 1: the way, obviously in Dynasty, for me, I'm out. I'm
Speaker 1: out of Mike Evans. Trade him now, I'm out of
Speaker 1: been already and you read draft, I'm done. Where's he going?
Speaker 1: Average draft position right now? Right now, he's the wide
Speaker 1: receiver thirty five. Oh, it's pretty low law he's ever been,
Speaker 1: including his rookie year, for sure. So the discount is
Speaker 1: already built into that draft position, which makes us a
Speaker 1: much more interesting conversation. Exactly, there's some of the players
Speaker 1: around him, which is very interesting. Okay, I'll read him
Speaker 1: off all right, we'll start with go for it. Let's
Speaker 1: go Brandon, I Yuke. Who would you rather have? I'd
Speaker 1: rather have a part of the Niners' offense, honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Okay, Somna, I'd rather buy Yuke, all right.
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, oh man, that's trick here, because you got
Speaker 1: the Kyler thing, and I know that Brown did nothing
Speaker 1: Hopkins now Hopkins on Hopkins, Hopkins might be gone, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I think I'd go Hollywood Brown right now,
Speaker 1: under the presumption that that passing offense needs to largely
Speaker 1: go through him. I also think Hollywood Brown is just
Speaker 1: a better player right now than like Evans, So Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown Tyler Lockett, who is just vastly disrespected as I'd
Speaker 1: rather Locke it. I mean, lock It. Lock It's good
Speaker 1: every year. Granted it's those explosive games like in for guillotine.
Speaker 1: Locket's always super dangerous, although he was much better last
Speaker 1: year with Gino Smith Locke. Locke's close. All right, George Pickens,
Speaker 1: I'd go Evans pick I would do on this. Pick
Speaker 1: I'm a little lower on Pis. Yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: see him way more consistency than I said. If you've
Speaker 1: got points for pancakes, I would pick Pickens, but I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with just in terms of fancy points. Yes,
Speaker 1: the last one very interesting. Chris Godwin, who's going wide
Speaker 1: receiver thirty one right now his teammate, which one would
Speaker 1: you rather have on the buck? Well? Okay, so we
Speaker 1: saw Baker Mayfield get Jarvis Landry up to wide receiver
Speaker 1: twenty two, right, and Landry is a slot over the
Speaker 1: middle style receiver, shorter patterns, just like Chris Godwin. I
Speaker 1: think Baker Mayfield's just his style of play is better
Speaker 1: suited for Chris Godwin than it is Mike Evans. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think i'd go Chris Godwin and just take my
Speaker 1: seven receptions for seventy yards and point three touchdowns that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out of Chris Godwin every week. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on that one, I think, especially. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's another year removed from the ACL injury, which I
Speaker 1: think is really gonna help help him kind of this
Speaker 1: season especially. But yeah, I'm I'm in on Chris Godwin.
Speaker 1: I think a little more than I thought I was
Speaker 1: going to because he's wide receiver thirty one, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm taking him over Avidson drafts this year. All right,
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