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Speaker 1: Those guys all held up really really well against massive

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Speaker 1: So smart adjustments from Joe Mizzoula in going small and

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Speaker 1: Horford recovers to him on the roll, right, and then

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, this is the beauty of a seven

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Speaker 1: Like throughout it all, like there's multiple things are true,

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Speaker 1: gonna have good decision making on offense? Are they gonna

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Speaker 1: bring consistent defensive effort? Is Jason Tatum gonna be able

431
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Speaker 1: to go toe to toe with whoever the best player

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Speaker 1: is that comes out of that Western Conference team. Like,

433
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Speaker 1: if Jason Tatum runs into a Luka Doncic, let's say

434
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Speaker 1: I think Luka Doncis is the second best player in

435
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Speaker 1: the world. Is Tatum gonna be able to win that

436
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: matchup the way that he badly lost, Like because he

437
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: badly lost that matchup against Steph two years ago, right, So,

438
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Speaker 1: Like though, those are the things that I think are

439
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: going to play a much bigger role for Boston than

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Speaker 1: the adjustment period. Do you think that part of Tatum's

441
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Speaker 1: inconsistency on offense is that he doesn't have a reliable

442
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Speaker 1: spot that he is comfortable with, for example, the Jokich

443
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: houk shot or the SGA mid range. So I think

444
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: that most of this just comes down to approach for

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. And what I mean by that is, like,

446
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Speaker 1: I actually do think that Tatum is capable of getting

447
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: to a consistent spot on the floor where he can

448
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 1: be profoundly efficient consistently on a possession by possession basis.

449
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: For me, that's the block, Like I would love to

450
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: see Tatum just work off the right block, cleared side,

451
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: like that be his like go to spot on the

452
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Speaker 1: floor to operate that That's what I'm hoping for him

453
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 1: in the in the long run, I think that part

454
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: of his skill development has been overly focused on tough

455
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: shot making. And the thing with tough shot making is

456
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: there's real value in it. There really is. I'm not

457
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and pretend like it doesn't matter, like

458
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: and it's come through for Jason Tatum in a lot

459
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Speaker 1: of big ways over the year.

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Speaker 2: I remember I remember him hitting a.

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00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: Huge right shoulder fade away from like twenty feet to

462
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Speaker 1: ice the Bucks in Game six of the twenty twenty

463
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: two Eastern Conference Semifinals. Like he's gone to tough shot

464
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: making in situations that have come through for him, and

465
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Speaker 1: there is value. But to me, the value of tough

466
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Speaker 1: shot making is rescue possessions, meaning like there's five seconds

467
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Speaker 1: on the shot clock and I just need to get

468
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: something up late game situations where it's like we're you know,

469
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: we're within you know, fifteen seconds left and I need

470
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: to get a shot, or like they're switching everything and

471
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: we're not getting anything open in our ball and player movement,

472
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Speaker 1: so I just need to be able to get to

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Speaker 1: my spot and knock down a shot like those those

474
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: are coverage beaters too, Like if you're going against a

475
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: drop coverage and a guy dies on the pick, Like, yeah,

476
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: you need to be able to hit a pull up jumper.

477
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Speaker 1: But like Tatum just leans on him too much, Like

478
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Speaker 1: it's it's pull up jump shots makeup damn near half

479
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Speaker 1: of his shot diet.

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Speaker 2: And that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: That's that to me is that is leaving meat on

482
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Speaker 1: the bone, that is playing away from your strengths, you

483
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Tatum, I know this is

484
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Speaker 1: a this kind of is a strange comp because Lebron

485
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Speaker 1: and Jason Tatum are very different players. But like Lebron

486
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Speaker 1: developed an over the top shot making game, but his

487
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Speaker 1: best trait was he was bigger and stronger and more

488
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Speaker 1: athletic than everybody, right, And so like the vast majority

489
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Speaker 1: of Lebron's work was done in athleticism based plays, whether

490
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Speaker 1: it was transition attacks, attacking out of the post, you know,

491
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: like getting downhill and ball screens, and then Lebron would

492
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Speaker 1: use pull up shot as like a as like basically

493
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Speaker 1: a ceiling razor. And that's kind of what I want

494
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: to see Jason Tatum do now. I think he'll need

495
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more pull up shot making because he's

496
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Speaker 1: not the straight line. He's not as like quick off

497
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: the off the first step as Lebron James was, obviously,

498
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: but Jason Tatum is one of the biggest and strongest

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Speaker 1: forwards in the league. He has the ability to guard

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Speaker 1: centers in the post. He can demolish players with size mismatches,

501
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: and so for me, it's just about kind of tilting

502
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Speaker 1: some of his shot selection, like taking it from like

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Speaker 1: if you just take two or three of those possessions

504
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: a game where you take a pull up jumper and

505
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Speaker 1: you turn those into physically aggressive moves towards the basket,

506
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: that to me will dramatically increase his consistency on the

507
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Speaker 1: offensive end. But again, like when we have these conversations,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to remind ourselves that Jason Tatum

509
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Speaker 1: is a Swiss army knife that does a lot of

510
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: really useful things for a basketball team. And this is

511
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Speaker 1: not one of those things where it's like, oh, his

512
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: jumper's not falling tonight, so now he's useless.

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Speaker 2: That's not what it is. It's just he is. He plays.

514
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: He's into more inconsistency by relying too much on his

515
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: jump shot when he's not particularly good at it, and

516
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Speaker 1: like outside of like a month spanning late December to

517
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Speaker 1: January this year, he was a bad pull up shooter.

518
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Speaker 1: He so, like it's not a huge surprise that I

519
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Speaker 1: think my microphone might have just crapped out. Again, let's see,

520
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: we're okay. But like outside of like outside of that

521
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: like month month and a half there, Like he's he's

522
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Speaker 1: a bad pull up shooter. So it's not a surprise

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Speaker 1: that like he gets into these situations and they're more inconsistent, right,

524
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Speaker 1: But like in terms of like where I think his

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Speaker 1: spot will be in the long run, again, I think

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Speaker 1: it's in that right block cleared side trying to go

527
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Speaker 1: to work using his size advantages. Would you ever take

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Speaker 1: a coaching job for a college program or the NBA?

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Speaker 1: I would never take a college job just because, like

530
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Speaker 1: a couple of things, if if you are an assistant

531
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Speaker 1: at the college level, you almost like a good portion

532
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 1: of your workload becomes like clerical work. It's a lot

533
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Speaker 1: of like checking on the kids' grades, like recruiting visits,

534
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Speaker 1: scouting visit like things along those lines. It's a lot

535
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff, and obviously as a head

536
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: coach there's a lot of that kind of responsibility as well,

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Speaker 1: especially on the recruiting side, right, And like, for me,

538
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Speaker 1: like I love basketball, I want to focus on basketball.

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Speaker 1: So like, to me, college doesn't really satisfy that specific need.

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Speaker 1: I think there would be just too much non basketball

541
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: related side of the business. I would love to coach

542
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: in the NBA one day, but it's just completely unrealistic.

543
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Coaching is very much a fraternity. Everyone is very like

544
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Speaker 1: it's it's so in order to get into that side

545
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: of the business, you have to like take some job

546
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: in a film room somewhere and just grind and grind

547
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: and grind and maybe just maybe you'll get an opportunity

548
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: to be an assistant somewhere one day, or maybe you'll

549
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: have some sort of connection, but like chances are like,

550
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Speaker 1: as much as I'd love that opportunity, it's just unrealistic

551
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: and so it's not something that I plan on. But

552
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Speaker 1: to answer the question, if the Charlotte Hornets called me

553
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: tomorrow and was like, hey, do you want a position

554
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: as one of our end of the bench assistants, I'd

555
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: be like, fuck, yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

557
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Speaker 1: Just because for me, I just like nothing as much

558
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: as I love talking about the game, nothing beats the competitiveness.

559
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: Nothing beats like being in a locker room, being with

560
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: those guys and trying to achieve the ultimate goal and

561
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: going after a championship of whatever type it is. But again,

562
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: it's unrealistic, so it's not something I plan on. What's

563
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: the biggest difference between this series and the Knick series

564
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: for the Pacers where the Knicks also went up to

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Speaker 1: I'll keep it really simple. Boston's a much, much, much

566
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: better basketball team. Would Darius Garland be a good fit

567
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: for the Lakers? I let's just I'm gonna put it

568
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: this way. I saw this moving around today. To me,

569
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves is like ninety ninety five percent the basketball

570
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: player that Darius Garland is. You could argue he's a

571
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: better playoff player, and he costs a tiny fraction as much,

572
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: and he's already on the roster. So like to me,

573
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Speaker 1: any sort of deal for Garland would require the aggregation

574
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Speaker 1: of salaries and sending out too many good players. I

575
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: think the Lakers would get worse, So I fly don't

576
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: like that kind of deal. Who would guard Jalen Brown

577
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: for the MAVs or the Wolves. So I think what

578
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: they would probably do if it was Dallas is I

579
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: think we'd see PJ. Washington on Jason Tatum, and then

580
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: I think we'd see Derek Jones Junior on Jalen Brown.

581
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: But I could see that matchup getting moved around quite

582
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: a bit. Kyrie Irving has defended guards so well in

583
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: this postseason run that I think that Kyrie, you could

584
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: handle probably the Derek White assignment right, And then I

585
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: think they probably try to hide Luka Doncic on Drew Holliday,

586
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: and they probably used Drew Holliday a lot as a screener.

587
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: The thing is, this is the problem with Boston, and

588
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: this is one of the reasons why like everyone, you know,

589
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: like everyone keeps writing off Boston and saying the Western

590
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: teams are better, and like I may pick the Western

591
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: Conference team, but like whoever comes out of that the West, Like,

592
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: even if I do pick them, it's like a fifty

593
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: five to forty five kind of thing. Like I think

594
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: Boston is damn good, and I might end up picking Boston.

595
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. We'll see when we get to that point.

596
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: But one of the main reasons why is because Boston

597
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: just presents massive matchup problems for everybody. Like it's kind

598
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: of like the Tyre's Haliburton piece, Like you're you're putting

599
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: Tyres Haliburt on Derek White. You have to put him

600
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: on Derek White because Drew Halliday will punish him in

601
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: the post, and like you can handle the Derek White

602
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: problem with more team based concepts, but like that's just

603
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: the problem. Derek White's freaking amazing and you're putting Tyres

604
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: Albert on him because you just have no choice. And

605
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: like that's just the reality of the predicament that Boston

606
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: puts you in because they have so many damn good

607
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: basketball players, you know, like they have four dudes making

608
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: over thirty million, and it's not like, oh, they're on

609
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: bad contracts. They all deserve to be making at least

610
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: that much. And then Derek White is the one guy

611
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: who doesn't, and he probably deserves to make thirty thirty

612
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: five million a year based on what he does on

613
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: both ends of the floor. So like Boston just super

614
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: super talented, and those are the problems that they can

615
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: those are the predicaments that they can put you in.

616
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: In terms of the Timberwolves. My guess is that they

617
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: probably put Jayden McDaniels on Jason Tatum and Anthony Edwards

618
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: on Jaln Brown. But again it's the same kind of thing.

619
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Speaker 1: I think you'd see some interchangeability there. That would be

620
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: an interesting series for the Karl Anthony Towns kind of

621
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: fit in terms of the matchups. And I wonder how

622
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: often the Wolves would have to go small and put

623
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: Nikhil Alexander Walker on the floor. Did players get Did

624
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: players used to get this much shit for poor performances

625
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: in just one game or is it happening more now

626
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: with more exposure in today's NBA. I've noticed this in

627
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: general over the years with Twitter. Everybody wants to take

628
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: victory laps or admit they're wrong after one game, which

629
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: is like absolutely crazy to me. I mean, even just

630
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: in the last round. Let's see, like Dallas lost Game

631
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: one and won the series. Denver lost Game one and

632
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: led by twenty in Game seven in the second half, Right,

633
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: what was the.

634
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: Need?

635
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: The Knicks went up two oh and the Pacers ended

636
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: up winning that series. So like in general, when it

637
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: comes to the postseason, like I am a big believer

638
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: and like no matter what you think, don't react to

639
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: anything until you've seen multiple games and you've seen all

640
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: the adjustments. Like let's say Indiana wins Game one without

641
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: that you know, crazy Jalen Brown shot. It's like you

642
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: could be like, oh my gosh, they can't guard pick

643
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: and roll, and it's like, actually, they were able to

644
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: come up with some adjustments in literally one game to

645
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: be able to mitigate a lot of the issues, just

646
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: a lot, like just take Cornette out of the rotation,

647
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: although he Missoula was forced to, but like, take Cornette

648
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: out of the rotation, put Horford on Siakam and all

649
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like you're just in a better position, right,

650
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: So like another one too, Like I went back and

651
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: looked through the film and Minnesota I thought, played one

652
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: of their worst defensive games of the postseason against Dallas

653
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: in Game one, and so like, I just think that

654
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: we see a more desperate Minnesota defensive effort in Game two,

655
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: and I think Minnesota ties the series. And so now

656
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: who knows, Like Dallas is in commanding position and they

657
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: very well might end up winning. But in general, I

658
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: just don't understand the overreacting, and especially when it comes

659
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: to the individual players. Like my thing is like I

660
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: think criticism without praise is empty, and praise without criticism

661
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: is empty. Right, So, like I have to be critical

662
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: of Ant for the way he played in Game one

663
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: one because I'm also the guy that praises him heavily

664
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: when he plays well, right, like I have. It's just

665
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: like with Jason Tatum. I've been very critical of Jason

666
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: Tatum over the years, but like, he was awesome in

667
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: Game one in so many different ways aside from the

668
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: shot making. And it's like to me, like, I have

669
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: my biases. I do. I'm not gonna sit here and

670
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: lie to you, Guys, I emotionally, as a fan root

671
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: for the Lakers. Right on a non emotional level, I

672
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: have players that I'm a fan of and players that

673
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't like particularly well, right Like, for instance, Luca

674
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: is one of those guys.

675
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: I've never been a huge Luca fan.

676
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: There's some things about his game that bother me, the

677
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: way he constantly complains that the refs bothers me. Sometimes

678
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: the twenty five thirty dribble possessions into an iso. I

679
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: watched a game in the regular season this year. I

680
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: want to say it was against the Pacers where where

681
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: Luca literally got the opening tip and ran four consecutive

682
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: straight ISOs without passing the basketball to start the game.

683
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: And it's like, there are part there are.

684
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: Things about that that as just as a basketball fan,

685
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of. But at this time,

686
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: like I try, I genuinely do try to fight against

687
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: those things and to try to be as objective as

688
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: I possibly can. My thing is like, I'm not gonna

689
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: lie to you and say that I'm, you know, perfectly unbiased.

690
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm not.

691
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: I have my biases, I have my likes, I have

692
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: my dislikes. I'm just gonna try like hell to do

693
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: the best job that I can I do. To put

694
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: it simply, I take this job very seriously. The fact

695
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: that you guys actually come to me and listen to

696
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: my analysis, that you actually care about my opinion, I

697
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: take that as a as a huge compliment, and I

698
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: take that responsibility seriously. I want to make sure that

699
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: I do this job the way that it's supposed to

700
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: be done. I'm not perfect. I'm gonna fuck up a lot.

701
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: I say stupid shit sometimes. What was the one I

702
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: had at the beginning of the last round where I

703
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: said the Lakers might be. The h that the Wolves

704
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: have is the same, the same chance to beat Denver

705
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: as the Lakers do, Like the Lakers did, Like that

706
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: was stupid. I make mistakes like that's That's kind of

707
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: just how it goes. But I'm gonna just do the

708
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: best I can and we'll see. I feel like I'm

709
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: better at it than I was a few years ago,

710
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: and hopefully I keep getting better at it over the years.

711
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Tatum Garner's so much attention from defenses, do you think

712
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: this opens up Brown for games like this? So to

713
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: put it simply, like there are usually aggressive coverages lined

714
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: up for the other team's best star, and there's usually

715
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: traditional coverages lined up for any sort of supporting star. So,

716
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: for instance, take Minnesota, like Anthony Edwards is getting high

717
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: drop coverage, double team and ISOs like he saw a

718
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: ton of that against Denver, a little bit of a

719
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: little bit of it in Game one against Dallas where

720
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: they're like really loaded up and digging down into driving

721
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: lanes high drop like Ant's coming off of those ball

722
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: screens and settling. He's not being as agg aggressive as

723
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: he needs to be. But so much of it has

724
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: to do with the coverages. Right when it comes to

725
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: like the gameplan piece of it, then you look at

726
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns and it's like, yeah, they will throw

727
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: the occasional double team to him in the post. But

728
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: like when they run Hoorn's chest and you know Ant

729
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: dribbles off the cat on the left elbow and cat

730
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: comes off of Nazor or Rudy Gobert on the right

731
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: elbow and they throw the ball to him, they're not

732
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: double team him or trapping him like he's he's getting

733
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: traditional coverages, meaning he's getting the same coverages that every

734
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: other team gets, right, And like a lot of that

735
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: is or every other player I should say gets, And

736
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: so a lot of that is like Jylen Brown is

737
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: going to have a certain different level of difficulty than

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum.

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00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: That's a fact, right.

740
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 1: And Like if if Boston ever did trade Jalen Brown,

741
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: like let's say four years from now they do, or

742
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: let's say they have like another disappointing loss two years

743
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: in a row and then and then they end up

744
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: trading Jalen Brown, I don't think they will. I think

745
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown will be a Celtic for a long time.

746
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: But if Jalen Brown goes to a team and is

747
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: the best player on the team, his entire perspective on

748
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: the game will change. Instead of getting the Aaron E.

749
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: Smith point of attack assignment, like he's like right now,

750
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: he's getting Andrew Nemhard right, Like instead of Tatum getting

751
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: Aaron E. Smith, Like if he was the best player

752
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: on a team, maybe he gets Aaron E. Smith for

753
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: the entire game, you know, like and he has success

754
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: against Aaron E.

755
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: Smith too.

756
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say you can't, but like, let's

757
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: say it like the Minnesota assignment, Like, if they end

758
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: up having to leave a lesser defender on one of

759
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: the jas, who are.

760
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: They gonna do it.

761
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it on Jaln Brown, right, So like

762
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: there is some reality to like the to being lower

763
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: in the pecking order and that making things easier. But again,

764
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: as I used to always say with Jamal Murray, in

765
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: my opinion, when it comes to basketball, your value is

766
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: your value to your team. And regardless of what theoretical

767
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: situation where Jalen Brown is on some other team and

768
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: he's getting tougher coverages, Yeah, we can talk about that

769
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: in terms of ranking players, but I'm Boston. He is

770
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: the number two, and so he does get favorable matchups,

771
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: and he does get favorable coverages, and so he does

772
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: get to cook. And that's just the reality of his

773
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: impact on this team. Would the Celtics fare better against

774
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: the Wolves or the MAVs? Oh, that's interesting, I would say, man,

775
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: that is a really that's a really interesting question to

776
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: kind of think of, to kind of talk through it.

777
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: The I think that the MAVs are a little bit

778
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: more of a load up offense, whereas the Wolves are

779
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a stay home offense. And

780
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: the big part of that is the Wolves have better

781
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: defensive personnel down the roster. The mass are really good defenders.

782
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: Derek Jones Junior is an excellent defender. That rim protectors

783
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: are excellent defenders.

784
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: PJ.

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00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Washington has done a nice job in this postseason run.

786
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: But like Minnesota can go to lineups where they have

787
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: like Rudy Gobert on the damn floor with Nikil Alexander

788
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: Walker and Anthony Edwards and Jana McDaniels, and they just

789
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: have like, like just unbelievable defensive personnel everywhere, and so

790
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: they can do what they did to the Suns which

791
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: is like stay home off the ball and try to

792
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: make you play one on one or two on two.

793
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: And so I think Minnesota is a defense is more

794
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: capable of making Boston's offense struggle. But I also think

795
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: that I think that Dallas's offense is better than Minnesota's,

796
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: and so, like I think, I think there would be

797
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: different strengths and weaknesses and challenges for both matchups. I

798
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: would man, that is that's a really good question. I'm

799
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: sorry that I don't have a better answer for you

800
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: at this point, but we will definitely get into it

801
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: once we get further into the Western Conferent Finals. I

802
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: really want to see how the Wolves defense bounces back

803
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: tomorrow night.

804
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Again.

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00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: I thought they were really bad in Game one, and

806
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see if they just come out

807
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: and throw just a hilacious defensive punch and how Dallas

808
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: responds to it. Do you think this t Wolves team

809
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: is like the twenty twenty two Celtics, an ascending superstar

810
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: and dominant team defense that's actually a really good comp

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't like Celtics fans you probably remember,

812
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: but like a lot of people around the league think

813
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: of this Boston team as as like kind of the

814
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: same type of team as the twenty twenty two Celtics,

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00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: and I very much don't like to me, the twenty

816
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: twenty two Celtics were not as good offensively, but they

817
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: were just they were a team who hung their hat

818
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: on the defensive end of the floor. I saw the

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00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Celtics throw some of the craziest defensive

820
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: punches for entire games that I had seen from teams

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00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: in recent NBA history. Like to me, that twenty twenty

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00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: two Celtics team wasn't as talented as this Celtics team,

823
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: but like this Celtics team is almost a victim of

824
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: their own talent in the sense that they can oscillate

825
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: an effort, they can be inconsistent, and like the twenty

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00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: twenty two Celtics, they just played so damn hard every

827
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: single night. It really came down to some bad rim

828
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: decisions hurting their transition defense, and then Jason Tatum just

829
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: kind of fell apart in the finals, and that was

830
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: really the only things that went wrong for them. Someone

831
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Speaker 1: wants to know my thoughts on Joe Missoula. Here's the

832
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: thing I think Joe like, but what drives me crazy

833
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: with Joe Miszula is just the entire offensive approach from Boston,

834
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: where there's very little hierarchy. There's very there's very like

835
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: quick decisions. There's a lot of like settling. There's a

836
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: lot of like let's just find uh, like run up

837
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: the floor on quick action and take a take a

838
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: three within like without even getting like a paint touch.

839
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of like inconsistent offensive approach from Joe Mizula,

840
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: and like, you know what's I talked about this a

841
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: lot with Darvin Ham. Like to me, one of the

842
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: most important elements of a head coach in the NBA

843
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: is possessioned by a possession accountabil What I mean by

844
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: that is like deeply valuing every single possession and building

845
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: the habits that will carry you in the NBA finals

846
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: because or in the NBA playoffs, because once you get

847
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 1: to this point where you need to win sixteen games

848
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: in two months, so much of it comes down to

849
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: like like execution and avoiding mistakes and like not having

850
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: these two three minute stretches where you lose your damn mind.

851
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: And like one of the characteristics that is that is

852
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: really like kind of uh encapsulated this Boston team over

853
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: the last two years under Joe Mazula is a lack

854
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: of value of the individual possession and extended stretches where

855
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: they lose sight of their identity and play down to

856
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: their and play down to their competition, and so like,

857
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: to me, that is on Joe Mizoula, and like when

858
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: you focus too much on the big picture and like

859
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: our overarching shot value and all those different kinds of things,

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Speaker 1: Like to me that that that fails to drive home

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Speaker 1: the bigger picture topic of what you're gonna need when

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Speaker 1: you place the best when you play the best teams

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Speaker 1: down the line. So, for instance, let's say you end

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Speaker 1: up playing Minnesota in the finals, Like, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a tough series, and in that series, you need Jason

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Speaker 1: Tatum to be awesome because a lot of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that Boston does offensively rue guys like Drew Holliday, through

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Speaker 1: guys like Derek White, through guys like Al Horford, a

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Speaker 1: lot of that is gonna work at a much lower

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Speaker 1: level of effectiveness against Minnesota's defense and so or even

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Speaker 1: Dallas's defense, and so so much of it is gonna

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Speaker 1: come down to, like Tatum's gonna have to take the

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Speaker 1: reins of the offense, and so like part of it

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Speaker 1: to me is like I would I wish that Joe

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Speaker 1: Miszula had done more work over the course of the

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Speaker 1: season at just kind of building out at least some

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Speaker 1: sense of hierarchy. That's not to say that you don't

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Speaker 1: want Jason Tatum to get the ball moving around and

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Speaker 1: keep everybody involved. And for the record, I think he's

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Speaker 1: awesome at that, and I think that's why he's such

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Speaker 1: a perfect fit for this team. But like, I do

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Speaker 1: think that there's just been a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: lack of accountability in terms of their consistency of defensive

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Speaker 1: effort and their consistency of offensive execution. And I do

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Speaker 1: that to Joe Mizoula, so like not my favorite NBA coach,

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, like I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's going to be the main driving force of

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Speaker 1: whatever this outcome is in this postseason run. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: come down to the players. They have the talent. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I think it's unfair to put any sort

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Speaker 1: of blame on Joe Mizoula, even if I'm not necessarily

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Speaker 1: a fan of his coaching style. Would you rest Porzingis

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Speaker 1: to the finals. Now, yeah, there's just no reason not to.

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Speaker 1: Unless Porzingis strictly wants to come back so that he

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Speaker 1: can build his rhythm and conditioning, then that's fine. But

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Speaker 1: like you certainly don't bring him back unless he feels

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Speaker 1: one hundred ready to play. Has Minnesota faced a defense

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Speaker 1: with the tools that Boston has, Yes, they're facing it

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Speaker 1: right now. The main reason why is, like Boston, they

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Speaker 1: Boston is not super athletic at the center position. Al

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Speaker 1: Horford's a good positional defender, and christophs Porzingis is a

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Speaker 1: good rim protector when he's in a deep drop coverage.

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Speaker 1: But Porzingis is not overly quick and can struggle sometimes

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Speaker 1: when he has to come out to the level of

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Speaker 1: the screen Lively and Lively and Gafford are both like

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Speaker 1: really really athletic centers. And so I think that I

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Speaker 1: think that Minnesota has I think that Minnesota has a

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Speaker 1: like Dallas, excuse me, Dallas. I think Dallas has better

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Speaker 1: rim protection than Boston does. But Boston's perimeter defense personnel

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Speaker 1: is outrageous. And like when you go one through four,

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Speaker 1: only Minnesota can can say that they have I think

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Speaker 1: better defensive players on the perimeter than Boston does. Like

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Speaker 1: having Drew Holiday and Derek White, by the way I

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Speaker 1: talked about it tonight, like they held up in post

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Speaker 1: up mismatches extensively in this game. They can guard bigger players,

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Speaker 1: they can guard smaller players. Derek White's one of the

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Speaker 1: best shot blocking guards in the league. Jalen Brown can

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Speaker 1: be this deeply profoundly impactful defensive athlete. Jason Tatum obviously,

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Speaker 1: as we've talked about so many times over this playoff run,

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Speaker 1: is this deeply profoundly impactful athlete. So like, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Minnesota is faced at defense that has Boston's perimeter personnel,

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Speaker 1: But I think Dallas between the Derek Jones junior on

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Speaker 1: the ball and those centers, those super athletic centers around

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Speaker 1: the rim, I think Dallas has had a little bit

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Speaker 1: better rim protection. But you're right, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: Boston's I think Boston's defense would give Minnesota some issues.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Porzingis would be a massively important

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Speaker 1: part of that series, and they most likely would run

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Speaker 1: a deep drop coverage to try to keep Porzingis at

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Speaker 1: the rim to continue to shut things off from and

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Speaker 1: kind of the way that Dallas has all right, guys.

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Speaker 1: That is all I have for tonight. As always, a

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Speaker 1: sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting the show. No show

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. We're just gonna run this mail bag as

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Speaker 1: a breakout. I have a scheduling conflict, so I'm actually

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Speaker 1: unavailable during the day tomorrow, but the mailbag will be

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Speaker 1: up as a breakout, and then I will be back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow evening after the final buzzer of Games two of

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: I will see you guys. Then the volume