1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: We've got some breaking news, Alden Gonzalez reporting that the 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Angels and Anthony Rendon are and talks about buying out 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: the final year of his contract. This according to one 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: of Alden's sources, and the expectation is that Anthony Rendon 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: will retire. What an era this one has been. This 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: would have been the last year of a seven year, 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five million dollar contract. It is 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: easily one of the worst contracts in Major League Baseball history. 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: He didn't play much, he didn't contribute much. Kevin Polar 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: played with him for a season with the Angels. What 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: do you think about this? Dude, you experienced Anthony Rendon, 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: who I think is somewhat misunderstood. I covered him for 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: years when he was with the Nationals. I mean, the 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: easy way to put it is, doesn't love baseball. Nice, 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: chill guy to be around your thoughts. 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was his teammate in Anaheim. I didn't really 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: get a chance to be on the field them very 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: much because he was also hurt that year. But yeah, 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: I think Anthony Rendon is one of the most misunderstood players, 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: maybe of all time. And he's very outspoken in his beliefs. 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: But he's not saying anything that most I wouldn't say 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: most that some other players aren't saying. People forget that baseball. 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: To a lot of us, yes, we do love it 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: and it's and we're passionate about it. But at the 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: end of the day, it is a job and the 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: joy for a lot of people. When you get to 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: the major league some of it is taken away from you. 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: I felt it towards the end of my career. I 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: was very passionate about being a baseball player. I love 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: the game of baseball. Part of the reason I'm still 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: sitting here talking baseball is because I do love it. 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: But does some of the joy get taken away from 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: you when you get into the business side of baseball, 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: and at any given day you can be released or 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: you can be traded, and you feel like you have 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: a value and it's not reached that So, yes, it 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: is a job, and not all of us loves show 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 2: going up to our job every day. And Anthony Rendon 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: just happened to be one of those guys who was 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: super super talented at baseball, and probably early on in 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: his life in order to get to Rice University and 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: through his time at Rice, university, worked extremely hard to 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: be one of the best players in baseball, was drafted 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: second overall. You know, won a World Series with the Nationals. 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: You know, jumped on the scene as one of the 46 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: best right handed hitters in baseball. And it's very unfortunate that, 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, his time with the Angels was not good. 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: Like you said, to put it bluntly, it's going to 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: go down as one of the worst contracts of all time. 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: And you know, we are in the season of the 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: holiday season, and I think we talked about on the 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: show earlier, you know what we're thankful for, and I 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: think both sides are very thankful for this to happen. 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: The Angels are thankful to finally move on from Anthony Rendon, 55 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: hopefully get a little bit of payroll flexibility, and Anthony 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: Rendon is just very thankful that the Angels are willing 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 2: to do this where he no longer has to show 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: up to a place that he doesn't want to be anymore. 59 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: He wants to be at home with his family, donate 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 2: to his church, and go out and farm, because that's 61 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: really what he's passionate about. 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people that can associate 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: with Anthony Rendon in the sense that you know what, 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: they might not like their job, it's not an excuse 65 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: to not go out and do it. 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: I don't care what your job is. Like. 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: The biggest thing that an employer, because he's an employee, 68 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: needs needs to expect from his employees is good effort 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: and a good attitude. Now, if you don't have those things, 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: I don't care. If you're the best at your job, 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: no matter what the job is, employer is not going 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: to be too pleased. 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: And I think if. 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: He would have gone out and played to his fullest extent, 75 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: in the sense of he's out there every day, he's 76 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: playing through injuries, then I think we could get him 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: a little bit of a break. But when when somebody 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: says they don't enjoy baseball, or they don't they don't 79 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 3: enjoy being they would rather do other things, I get that. 80 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: But it's afforded him the opportunity to be able to 81 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: do those other things, to be able to farm, to 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: be able to like nobody's holding a gun to your 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: head to play baseball. You don't have to play baseball. 84 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: You can go and find a different job. And I 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: think I think the fact that his career will be 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: marred by the fact that he signed this contract and 87 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: people don't feel like he gave his best effort. I 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: think it is going to completely overshadow what an incredibly 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: talented player. He was home hit an opposite field home 90 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: run against US in spring training when I was at 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: the Phillies, So it had to be somewhere in like 92 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: twenty eleven, twelve thirteen, somewhere in there, right out of Rice, 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: and I was like, Wow, how that. 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: Guy hit an opposite field home run? 95 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: And Joe Savory went to and he knew about Anthony 96 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: Rendon and this guy is He goes, this guy is 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: the one of the most unassuming opposite field power bats 98 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: that you will ever see, And I was like, whoa relax, Joe, 99 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: like that is That's well? He was spot on. He 100 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: couldn't have been more spot on, and it's a shame 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: that his career ended this way, especially when he signed 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: over at the Angels. Twenty twenty was the COVID year. 103 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: I think he was tenth in MVP voting, so it 104 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: was coming off and after that. Before that, he was 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: third in MVP voting in twenty nineteen for the World 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: Champion National, so there's extreme levels of talent in there, 107 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: and it just it sucks that these last you know, 108 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 3: this contract ended the way that he did. And maybe 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: he'll say it was injuries. 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I was a 141 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: reporter back then. I would cover like him and others 142 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: in the postseason, and you would hear that from him. 143 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: He was pretty open about it, right, I Mean, he 144 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: wasn't walking around like fuck this, fuck that, but it 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: was more just like, yeah, like and I don't care, 146 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: this is not that important to me, And I think 147 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: KP that is part of what made him so incredible 148 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: early in his career, Like he'd step up there the 149 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: ultimate low heartbeat. I truly don't care what happens here. 150 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: I just know that I'm really good and I'm going 151 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: to do my work. What changed is he signs the 152 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: big contract and just really said I'm not into this. 153 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: Body breaks down a little bit too. And he's always 154 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: had injuries. I mean that was part of what didn't 155 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: make him say a number one pick. I think he 156 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: was a little lower, like six or something like that 157 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: out of Rice because he had injuries there too. But 158 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is this is a guy 159 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: that did sign a big deal and then you basically 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: never heard from him again. 161 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 162 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean I played with him a long time ago. 163 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: He hasn't really changed to who he was as a 164 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: person and how he felt about baseball. I honestly was 165 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: really shocked when he became a free agent and he 166 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: signed the seven year deal. I thought he would be 167 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: a guy that would front load the heck out of 168 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: his contract, maybe sign a three or four year deal, 169 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: maybe five at the moke so he can get his 170 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: ten years. I don't really know how important that was 171 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: to him, but I saw him frontloading a deal for 172 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: like two or three years, make it a ton of money, 173 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: riding off in the sunset. But to Crassey's point, you know, 174 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: when you go out and you sign a big deal 175 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: and a lengthy deal for an organization, you owe it 176 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: to them to put your best foot forward. And I 177 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: don't believe people inside of that clubhouse, people in that 178 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: front office ownership group, believe that Anthony Rendome put his 179 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: best effort every single day when he shut up. You know, 180 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: none more evident than last year. Yes, did he have 181 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: a hip surgery. Yes, you can look at medical records 182 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: and stuff. Did he actually have a surgery. But the 183 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: fact that he never showed up at spring training at 184 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: the Angels Complex, never really checked in in Anaheim with 185 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: the medical staff, kind of stayed at home and kind 186 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: of did his own rehab, And maybe because of his 187 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: lengthy injury history, he felt like, I need to get 188 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: away from the team. I need to do what's best 189 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: for me. Anthony Rendon rehab with my own people. But 190 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: if I'm an employer and this is one of my employees, 191 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: I'd like him to be around the team. I'd like 192 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: to check in with him, make sure he's doing everything 193 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: in his power to get back on the field, because 194 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: we gave him a large investment to be part of 195 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: our organization and help turn things around. So you know, 196 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying Cratsey, like, you gave this 197 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: guy a ton of money to kind of go side 198 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: by side with Trout and try to take this organization 199 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: to places you thought that they can get to with 200 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: these two guys kind of anchoring the middle of your lineup. 201 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: No one says these things about Trout by the way. 202 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: He's had injuries over the last couple of years, but 203 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: he's passionate, he cares, he's around the team. I was 204 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: with him during his injury. I saw how hard he 205 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: worked to try to come back. So I think when 206 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: you were very vocal about not wanting to play and 207 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: not loving the sport, taking all this money and then 208 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: not really putting your best foot forward to at least 209 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: go out there and try to post. People are gonna 210 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: have a problem with. 211 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: It, and physically sometimes you can't be on the field. 212 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: Adam Wainwright said, one of the one of the toughest 213 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: years for Hims but for him, but also one of 214 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: the one of the most rewarding years was the year 215 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: he had Tommy John surgery. He had to get the surgery, 216 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: and then every day after he was done his rehab, 217 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: he was able to invest in his teammates. He was 218 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: able to invest in those relationships. When you pay a 219 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: guy two hundred million dollars, When you pay a guy 220 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million dollars, she probably when you 221 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: pay a guy thirty million dollars, your expectation is, yes, 222 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to do some things on the field, 223 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: but the impact that they have on the entire roster, 224 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: the entire organization is going to come back to that 225 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: team four fold. And that's how and that's how you 226 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: prove your worth in a contract. Sometimes physically you just 227 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: can't do it. Sometimes you can't even get on the field. 228 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: But man, you can show up every day with a 229 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: great attitude and really lift up your teammates and really 230 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: lift up those people. And so for me to hear 231 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: that he was hurt and didn't show up to spring 232 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: training feelings hurt or not, like. 233 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: There's there's a value. 234 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: There's a value add there when you're a person that 235 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: wants to be around other people and help lift them up. 236 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: And it's tough. It's tough when you hear when you 237 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: hear stories like that. 238 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember the discrepancy and the team never 239 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: backed down saying that he had a shin bruise. I 240 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: think this was twenty twenty three and rind O inside 241 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: said it was a fracture. I mean, that gets a 242 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: little crazy. There's not a lot we can do on 243 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: the commenting front. We're not privy to that medical information. 244 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: But when the team's coming out that steadfatt, it does 245 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: get interesting. You don't see that very often. 246 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: And hey, I. 247 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Mean I have quotes. I'm looking back at Perrimanas the 248 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: GM years back saying I think he's gonna win comeback 249 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: player the year after one of his years. So it 250 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: was a last season. Ron Washington, when he first got 251 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: the job, spoke on our show and said one of 252 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: his first phone calls is to rend own. It's not 253 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: like the Angels gave up on him right away, and 254 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: they backed him publicly quite a bit. So this finally 255 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: gets to the divorce phase with one year to spare, 256 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: and I think we should end it this way, KP, 257 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: because you spent time with the Angels. How valuable is 258 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: it for them to get the closure here a year early? 259 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: It did feel like it was a dark cloud over 260 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: the team in a certain aspect, right, and it could 261 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: have gotten ugly this year where he doesn't want to 262 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: play clearly, and he would have to just kind of 263 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: be there and show up and do his thing. And 264 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know if you want to call 265 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: it dead weight, but thirty eight million dollars oh this season, 266 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: thirty five years old, doesn't want to play the game. 267 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: They probably will do some deferrals that'll open up a 268 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: little bit of payroll for this season. So this is 269 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: a huge win for Angels and for Angels players, right. 270 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: It's a huge win. And honestly, I think it's potentially 271 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: a year too late. You know, when he had that 272 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: hip surgery and potentially he was going to miss the 273 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: entire year. And sometimes you don't know until you know, 274 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: because you know, I was there the year before and 275 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: even though Anthony Rendon was hurt, he was around. Like 276 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: I said, you don't know until you know. And then 277 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: an entire year where he's not around, and then he 278 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: has no reason not to be there next year because 279 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: he is healthy. Maybe you learn from his absence this 280 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: year that maybe it was this dark cloud that they 281 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: needed to get rid of. Maybe there's if he shows up, 282 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, what kind of player is he going to be? 283 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: Does he even want to be there? What kind of 284 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: work ethic he's going to be. The Angels are trying 285 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: to change their culture a little bit. You know. They 286 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: brought in a young manager, Kurt Suzuki, who probably just 287 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: doesn't want to have to deal with this sort of 288 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: thing his first time being a manager. It's long overdue. 289 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: Good for the Angels, you know, whether they get some 290 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: financial flexibility, that's one thing. Guess that would help their 291 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: organization go out and get some better players. But did 292 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: not have to deal with him being in spring training, 293 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: maybe potentially influencing some of the younger players to know, 294 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: not go hard in drills, or not take ground balls, 295 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: or not do certain things, or learn from him in 296 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: maybe a negative way. It's long overdue, and hopefully it's 297 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: something that the Angels do have a dark pass of 298 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: having signings not work out. It goes way beyond Anthony Rendon, 299 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: So hopefully this is somewhere where they could kind of 300 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: just move forward and not be a little gun shy 301 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: when it signing some guys to long term deals in 302 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: the future. 303 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: Last note here in spring training, when it was announced 304 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: that he was getting hip surgery, Ken Rosenthal did report 305 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: there was no insurance on that contract ever, and that 306 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: owner Ardi Morino does not do that for his players 307 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: because of the cost of that insurance, and he ends 308 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: up at about twenty five percent of games played over 309 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: over five years now six years, I guess, and really 310 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: the seven that is getting bought out. One estimate that 311 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: rosenth I've got was about fifty million dollars to benefit 312 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: back if they did have insurance, so it would have 313 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: covered some but nothing close to the two forty five 314 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: mill that was essentially a waste for the Angels during 315 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: this time period. So anyway, the relationship seems to finally 316 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: be over and Anthony Rendon will probably be retiring from 317 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. It's baseball the way it should be 318 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: covered here on FT. Give us a sub if you can, 319 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: please and leave us a comment with your thoughts on this. 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The Astros are hiring former White Sox pitching 339 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: coach Ethan Katz, not to be confused with excellent amateur 340 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: player Ethan Kratz. Ethan Katz will be pitching coach of 341 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: the Astros. This according to Chandler Rome, who just came 342 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: out with this before the show started. Kats is going 343 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: to replace Bill Murphy who left for the Pirates last month. 344 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Murphy or Katz, either of those names familiar for you guys. 345 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Ethan Katz. He was the former high 346 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: school pitching coach at Harvard Westlake, which you know is 347 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: the home of Max Freed, Jack Flaherty, Luis g Aledo. 348 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: You know, some of those guys were there at Chicago 349 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: when I was there, and maybe it's a little bit 350 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: of a recruiting tool to maybe sign a guy like 351 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 2: ge Aledo to come to Houston, maybe on a one 352 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: year deal. But he obviously has a track record of 353 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: you know, working with some amateur guys in high school 354 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: and has kind of worked his way up to the 355 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: big leagues. 356 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: Luis Giolito would be the Spanish brother of Lucas Gioldo. 357 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: So I think you meant you said, Luis, but. 358 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: He's going to Houston, to Houston for me, so I 359 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: give it for me. 360 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: The Astros are running a two major league pitching coordination, 361 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 3: and I don't know how that works for hitting, Like 362 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: I don't think it works for hitting. You need somebody 363 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: that's always like the top guy. So I don't know 364 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: how they're doing it at the Astros, but they're doing 365 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: it successfully. 366 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal put out a notes column. He also put 367 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: out a second Fair Territory this week a day early, 368 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: so you can check that out. It was live before 369 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: the show. If you want to catch it. After foul territory, 370 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: we'll get to at least one of the notes here 371 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: to start. This is an Eric Kratz special for your 372 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: former team. Ken wrote, the Brewers are fretting over their payroll. 373 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: According to people briefed on their plans, there's possibility that 374 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: they'll need to subtract in order to add, and that 375 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: again brings up the Freddy Peralta question. The only problem 376 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: I keep having with this, Kratz is from a payroll perspective. 377 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: Eight million bucks for Freddy P. Eight million bucks. I 378 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: know that the Brewers have to be tight, but eight 379 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: million bucks for a starter, and they have plenty of 380 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: league minimum or early arbitration guys, that doesn't seem to 381 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: be the problem spot. 382 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: Not the problem spot. I mean, I get it. They 383 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: probably didn't think Big WU was going to accept it. 384 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: But I know the Brewers are definitely thinking we extend this. 385 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: We would like to have him in twenty two millions, 386 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: not a big Does that inhibit them from doing another 387 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: twenty million dollars one year deal? Yes, but Freddy P 388 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: ain't the answer. And I mean twenty million for Freddy 389 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: P wouldn't be that big a deal, but it's only 390 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: eight million. If you're looking to cut payroll, you have 391 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 3: to be more creative than getting rid of Freddy p 392 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: unless you get a return that immediately puts your team 393 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 3: right back in a ninety seven wins season again, and 394 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: that's going to be a tough return. 395 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: Woodrif's making three times what Freddy Peralta is making. Hey, 396 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: I agreed with the decision. If you think he looks 397 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: like the big wou of old, then you do it. 398 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: But if you really were concerned, you don't offer that. 399 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 4: Yep. 400 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: Two Orioles hirings per source telling Rock Obacco, who covers 401 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: the Orioles for Mass and he said Mike Shilt will 402 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: be upper level coordinator of instruction and Samuel Vega will 403 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: be lower level coordinator of instruction. Shilt's the name that 404 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: stands out. He retired as a manager. But you wanted 405 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: to get the schedule reconfigured. So this does make sense, 406 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: And then we can show the next one too before 407 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: we get a quick reaction. This coming from Robert Murray. 408 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Hyde is in talks to join the Rais in 409 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: an undisclosed role. Nothing done, but he's expected to land 410 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: in Tampa. There were some people pretty surprised that Hye 411 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: didn't get deeper into an interview process with any teams 412 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: for a manager role. Maybe that happens next year. Any 413 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: thoughts from each of you got a quick hit. 414 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 5: Cool. 415 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: The Mike Schuld thing's a little bit interesting to me too, 416 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean from everything we had heard, and I was 417 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: on the show the day that he retired or was 418 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: relieved of his duties, and it seemed like his health 419 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: was in Jepardy. But for him to kind of jump 420 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: back into a baseball role seems a little bit odd 421 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: to me. Maybe we don't know the entirety of the 422 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: story in San Diego, or maybe he just loves baseball 423 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: so much and just couldn't be in the fight every 424 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: single day. But I found that a little bit interesting 425 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: that he would leave the padres and then take on 426 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: another role. 427 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: That's a lesser. I mean, this is probably a that 428 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: requires less time, though, right, because I know that was 429 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: a big thing for him. 430 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't mean he's he has no 431 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: he's not married, he has no kids. Like I get 432 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: the time. He probably wants some time to himself, But 433 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: I don't think the time was the thing that was 434 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: the reason he left San Diego. 435 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: I think it was the stress, the drama. 436 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: Hey, one more little nibble from Ken Rosenthal's notes column 437 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: which came out recently, and then he hit on most 438 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: of these topics on fair territory, which is out there. 439 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: He said the Reds versatility will keep them active on 440 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: numerous fronts because many of their players can play multiple 441 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: positions and it gives them flexibility to make moves that 442 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: fit their needs. Here are some examples, according to people 443 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: familiar with their thinking who spoke to Ken. He said 444 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: they could add a first baseman and they could put 445 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: Spencer Steer in left field. They could add a center 446 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: fielder and move TJ. Friedel to left field. They could 447 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: also add a right handed hitting outfielder to a platoon 448 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: with Will Benson, who's a left handed bat. What do 449 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: you think, Kratz? 450 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: Stop stop, you've been doing this. You've been doing this. 451 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 3: You have all these guys. 452 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: You have TJ. 453 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: Friedel, you have you have Spencer Steer, you have Matt McClain, 454 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: you have La de la Cruz. Like, stop, go get 455 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: somebody that is going to be one position, solidifies that spot, 456 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: and stop going out and getting the GMR Candelario. When 457 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: you already have utility infielders. Stop going out and getting 458 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: like guys who like you watch them go play really 459 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: well somewhere and then you're like, oh we want that. 460 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: Oh it didn't work out. We're the Reds. We can't 461 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: afford to make mistakes. Stop go make one solidified spot 462 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: add to your bullpen and your starting rotation is already boss, 463 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: So stop doing this. Stop like going around, like touching 464 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: the edge of the pool, like jump in swim. Make 465 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: the playoffs and a deep run in the playoffs. 466 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: So you want one big star, You want one or 467 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I would say mid. 468 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: Range to high level I play, I got the I 469 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: want Pete Alonzo. I want to watch him hit seventy 470 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: five homers that's just at the home games. 471 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a good fit for them. 472 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: Could you imagine watching him hit there for eighty one 473 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: games a year. He would make that place look so 474 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: small it would be unbelievable. He would hit sixty You 475 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: would hit sixty plus homers playing in. 476 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: That ball play. 477 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 3: I wanted them to get Anthony Santander last year to 478 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 3: be that Latin player who will help Elie de la 479 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: Cruz make that next step. 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Thoughts from KP. 511 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: I mean you got Aaron Judge to win bet against you? 512 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: Colet Garrett Cole, he's coming back to They're gonna add 513 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: at least two major free agents. They always do. They're 514 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: not gonna add at the trade deadline. They never, They 515 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: rarely do. Last year was rare. So this team plus 516 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: seven to fifty. I love that number. I really love 517 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: that number. I'm not convinced they're gonna win it yet, 518 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 3: but I do love that number. 519 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: Okay, anyone else that you think should be higher than them? 520 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: Not the Dodgers. I'm so you've got the Dodgers, the Yankees. 521 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: Anyone else that you think should be higher than the 522 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Yanks as of right now? 523 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: Not yet? 524 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean Phillies. 525 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: Phillies possibly, but I don't think they've done enough yet. 526 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: I can make the argument for the Blue Age or 527 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: the Mariners. 528 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 5: Yep, I just with the Mariners starting pitching, it's it's 529 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 5: I mean, they weren't even fully healthy last year and 530 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 5: we saw what they were able to do, so I 531 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 5: would never bet against the Mariners. 532 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: Okay, if we're missing anyone else in the live chat. 533 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: Live chat's been a little kooky today, So if you 534 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: want to get back on track and talk baseball, that'd 535 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: be great. 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We missed baseball too, 545 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: but football is there for you on Thursday. Gambling problem 546 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: or concern called one eight hundred gambler. We have one 547 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: minute and I will bring up a question that's loaded, 548 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: but I'm just going to get quick answers from everyone. 549 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: So John in the chat said, can you ask Evan 550 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: Grant if he thinks there's going to be a lockout 551 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: next year? And I was like, I feel like that's 552 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: more of an Evan relic or a Ken Rosenthal question. 553 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: My guest to him was, there's one thousand percent going 554 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: to be a lockout. But I think it's important for 555 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: people to understand that doesn't mean you'll miss games. It 556 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: just means that the sport will shut down for several 557 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: months in the offseason. For sure, that's a lock My 558 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: guess right now, gun to my head, KP, is that 559 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: we actually will miss games, but a very small amount 560 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: a week or two, to just make make the players 561 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: feel a little bit, make the owners field a little bit, 562 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: and then the two sides will say, Okay, enough of this, 563 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: We've got way too much momentum. What's your quick thought. 564 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they tipped their hand. And 565 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 2: during the last kind of mini lockout we had is 566 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: that they didn't make players, you know, sweat it out 567 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: long enough. So I wouldn't be surprised if if owners 568 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: did it. I think it's really sad that it's going 569 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: to come to that point because you look at the 570 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: ratings of the World Series, they were unbelievable. I think 571 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: the game's in a great place. We have a lot 572 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: of young stars, we have a lot of older stars. 573 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: You know, let's just continue to kind of ride this 574 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: momentum that baseball has right now. But I wouldn't be 575 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: surprised there's definitely gonna be a lockout because, as you 576 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: see everything in life, there has to be a deadline. 577 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: You know, we could come to terms right now on 578 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: a new CBA, but we're not going to, so there 579 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: has to be a deadline. We're going to cross that line. 580 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lockout, and no matter what the 581 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: players do in our union does try to get a 582 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: deal done. I think owners are going to send a 583 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: message this time that they want what they want and 584 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 2: they're willing to miss games to do it. 585 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tiptoe the line Herecrafts because it is 586 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: still like kind of far away, but it's not. We're 587 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: approaching the year we actually will have a lockout. It'll 588 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: just be at the end of twenty twenty six. But 589 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: the questions do keep flooding in we're one of the 590 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: only spots that actually covers this. So what are your thoughts. 591 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: That's it right there, that's my answer. No, there will 592 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: not be a lockout. I mean there will not be 593 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: any games missed. There might be a little bit of 594 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: a lockout. Owners don't want to miss any games. Every 595 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: game they're like, oh, man, that's how much attendance all 596 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: this stuff. And I think our show has been around 597 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: for long enough that the narrative is changing. Is it 598 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: changed enough yet? I don't think so. But the narrative 599 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: is changing in the fans mindset that has always been 600 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: for years. Players greedy, millionaires, greedy, greedy, greedy, and people 601 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: are saying, oh, that's why ticket prices are going up. No, 602 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: that's not it at all. It's because the owners, the billionaires, 603 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: the people who are holding your game hostage, don't have 604 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: all the don't have all the leverage. Right now, you 605 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: know what, You fans are closer to the players than you. 606 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: Fans are close to the owners for the most part. 607 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: For the greedy owners, and to me, I don't think that. 608 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: I think the game is in a great place. Like 609 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: KP said, I don't think we miss any games. I 610 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: think there will be a lockout. But I think owners 611 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: are going to start to see the fans are on 612 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: the player's side more than they were in the past 613 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: twenty five thirty five years. 614 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: For me, I was good up until like forty eight 615 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: hours ago when hal stein Berner tried to tell everyone 616 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: that the Yankees aren't profitable, and then I had to 617 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: rethink life for a while. I was like, hold up, 618 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: so the Yankees don't make money. They get no checks 619 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: for owning that team, no checks, And I understand how 620 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: the business works, just. 621 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: Thinner, not as many. I'm not getting big checks. It's 622 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: just a bunch of little checks that are handed out, 623 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: which makes one big. 624 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to clarify and be liked? 625 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Did I say profit? I meant I meant just a 626 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: little less profit because we split it with more people. 627 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: My bad clarification. 628 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: He will never because they'll never have to really show 629 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: it or approve it, so they're gonna cry wolf. And 630 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: I think the biggest problem is I think there's just 631 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: as much as there's a big disparity amongst players salaries, 632 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: I think there's a greater disparity when it comes to 633 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 2: owners and what they really truly want in terms of 634 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: revenue they make, you know, valuations of their franchise, and 635 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 2: how they believe that they can be competitive. So I 636 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: think to disagree with Krats, I do think there are 637 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: gonna be some owners that really hold the line this time. 638 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, the Braves are profitable. The Yankees are profitable. 639 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: We see the books for the Brave. All right, let's slap. 640 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Polar sent out a tweet asking for an early 641 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: wish list for the Black Friday shoppers that love him 642 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: very much. What would you like from them? 643 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, all of the above, to be honest with you, 644 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: you know, I was, you know, was just talking to 645 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: the kids about, you know, making sure they put their 646 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: list out there. So I wanted to prove to them 647 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: that even at the age of thirty six, I still 648 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: have a Christmas list, and I wanted to put it 649 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: out there. And you know, my wife does receive you know, 650 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: my notifications when I tweet as well too, So part 651 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: of it's for Santa, part of it's for my wife 652 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: as well too. So these are the things that I 653 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: would love to have. I will probably get none of them, 654 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: but you know, it's it's fun to dream. 655 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: No, no, no, you got one of them. 656 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: You said you wanted a goat, You got one goat 657 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: here the whole day you got to work with me. 658 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: That's true. Two goats. Actually, that's all I'm really looking 659 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: for is two goats, and I get to spend the 660 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: last two hours with two of them. So check. 661 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: I consider myself more of a barrel sauna, which was 662 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: on your. 663 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: List, barrelalation, Hepy Thanksgiving. 664 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: I'm thankful for all you guys. M.