1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: Karen Willcom has been restored to stock in bond markets 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: for now. After the hotter than estimated inflation report for March, yesterday, 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: a gauge of global bond suffered it's worst performance since 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: February of last year. Investors now bet the FED will 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: cut interest rates just twice this year. Neil Dutta, partner 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: at Renaissance Macro Research, talked about the difference between the 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: Consumer Price Index and the feds preferred inflation gauge, the PCE. 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: You know, there are differences of scope between the CPI 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: data and the pc data, and the CPI data is running, 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: you know, over a full percentage point higher than PCE. 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: That's about twice almost three times what's normal, and so 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: you know, in some respects, I do think the market 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: might be overstating how important CPI is for the FED 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: reaction function, but you know, it's a bad number. 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Renaissance Macro Research partner Neil Dutta now expects the FED 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: to cut rates twice this year, with the first move in. 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: July, Well Nathan, Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers says cutting 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: rates would be a mistake. In fact, Summer says a 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: rate hike may be necessary. 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 4: You have to take seriously the possibility that the next 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: rate move will be upwards rather than downwards, and anything 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: could happen. Markets could crash, the indicators could turn down. 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: But on current facts, a rate cut in June, it 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: seems to me would be a dangerous and egregious error. 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers estimates the chance of a 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: rate hike in the fifteen to twenty five percent range. 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Here the full conversation on the Bloomberg Wall Street Week 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: podcast downloaded on Apples, Spotify, or anywhere else you get 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: your podcasts. 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 5: Karen. 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Investors now turn their attention to another key inflation reading, 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: the March Producer Price Index. Let's get a preview from 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 6: The Producer Price Index is forecast to come in cooler 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 6: than yesterday's Consumer price index, and that may matter more 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 6: to the Fed than the CPI. The reason the Fed's 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 6: target is based on a third inflation measure, the Personal 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 6: Consumption Expenditures Index or PCE. It tends to run lower 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 6: than CPI. Some sectors in the PPI feed directly into PCE. 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 6: For example, while CPI measures what consumers pay for medical care, 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 6: PPI and PCE measure what insurance companies pay. So today's 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 6: numbers matter for analysts and central bankers as they try 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 6: to understand the direction of inflation. A strong PPI would 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 6: reinforce pessimism about rate cuts a week one would revive hope. 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 6: Michael McKee Bloomberg Radio. 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Right, Mike, thanks well. Interest rates are very much in 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: focus overseas. Later this morning, the European Central Bank makes 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: a policy decision, and we go to London and get 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: a preview of the Bloomberg's You and Pots You in 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: Good Morning. 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 7: Karen and Nathan boringcoss Across the euro Area are set 55 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 7: to be held at a record high today of four percent, 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 7: but investors are expecting the ECB to further lay the 57 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 7: ground for cuts to get underway in June. Euro Area 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 7: inflation is within sights of the two percent target, but 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 7: President Christine the Guard has indicated they'll need more confidence 60 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 7: in the data, particularly wage growth, by the middle of 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 7: the year. That decision comes at seven fifteen Eastern time 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 7: in London. Immune pots beenber radio. 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: Okay ewan, thank you. Oil is on the rise, and 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: speculation hostilities may be escalating in the Middle East. Source 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: to say the US and its allies think an Iranian 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: strike on Israel is imminent. We get more from Bloomberg 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: Israel Bureau chief Ethan Bronner. 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 8: This is in retaliation for an attack that is presumed 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 8: to have been done by Israel about ten days ago 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 8: in Damascus on a diplomatic compound in which seven people 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 8: were killed. 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 9: The key point there is that the two of. 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 8: The people were Revolutionary Guard command as to say, Iranian 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 8: commanders of militias in Lebanon in Syria. 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Ethan Bronner says Israeli officials have publicly threatened Iran 76 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: that if it hits Israeli soil, Israel will hit Iranian soil. 77 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: Well back here in the US, Nathan, the Biden administration 78 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: is cracking down on unlicensed gun dealers, and we get 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: the very latest at Bloomberg's John Tucker, John, Good Morning. 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 5: And Karen. 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 9: The Biden administration is issuing the rule designed to close 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 9: a gap that allows gun buyers to avoid background checks. 83 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 9: It targets the so called gun show loophole by expanding 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 9: the definition of who must obtain a license to engage 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 9: in firearm sales. The regulation specifically singles out sellers online 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 9: and at gun shows, where the background checks are often 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 9: not conducted. According to a White House official, more than 88 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 9: twenty thousand individuals engaged in unlicensed dealings could be affected 89 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 9: by the changes. The President has seized on the issue 90 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 9: of gun violence to contrast himself with former President Trump 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 9: and Republicans. In a State of the Union address in March, 92 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 9: mister Biden sattled his administration's efforts to address gun crime, 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 9: including establishing the first ever Office of Gun Violence Prevention. 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 9: John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 95 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: All Right, John, Thanks at a disclaimer, Michael Bloomberg, founder 96 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: and majority owner of Bloomberg Radio parent Bloomberg Lp, donates 97 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: to groups at support gun control. 98 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 5: All Right, Karen. 99 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: In Legal News this morning, Donald Trump has lost his 100 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: third try in a week to delay his Manhattan hush 101 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: money trial. Bloomberg's Ed Baxter has the story. 102 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 10: The week legally has had his attorneys trying to delay 103 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 10: the trial on charges that he faked business records to 104 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 10: cover up a sex scandal. The so called hush money trial. 105 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 10: His attorneys say they want a delay based on several 106 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 10: rulings that have been made, including waiting until after the 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 10: final ruling comes down on immunity. How this latest ruling 108 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 10: could be heard by a panel of five appellate court 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 10: justices going forward, but it would be nearly impossible for 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 10: the court to hear and rule before the trial's beginning. 111 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 10: Jury selection is scheduled from Monday the fifteenth at Baxter bloom. 112 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Radio, all right ed, thanks well. Staying in Manhattan. There 113 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: is not as much of a hush in New York 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: City office buildings. The return to work rate is now 115 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: close to eighty percent of where it was before the pandemic. 116 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: We get more from Bloomberg's Doug Prisner. 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 11: The data come from placer Ai. They show how Wall 118 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 11: Street firms including Goldman, Sachs and JP Morgan helped drive 119 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 11: New York City's return to office rate. A similar rebound 120 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 11: was also seen in Miami, with a rate of seventy 121 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 11: eight percent last year. The return to office rates for 122 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 11: these two cities were the highest among seven major US markets. 123 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 11: They were also above the national average of about sixty 124 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 11: three percent. San Francisco saw the greatest growth in office 125 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 11: visitations in twenty twenty three. However, it still lagged behind 126 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 11: other major cities with an RT rate of forty five 127 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 11: percent in New York. I'm Doug Prisner, Bloomberg Radio. 128 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Doug, thanks for watching shares of Alpine Immune Sciences 129 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: on some deal news this morning. They're up thirty six 130 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: percent in early trading. The kidney drug developers being bought 131 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: by Tech Pharmaceuticals for four point nine billion dollars in cash. 132 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: And it is time now for a look at some 133 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: of the other stories making news in New York and 134 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: around the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's and 135 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: Michael Barr. Michael, good Morning, Good morning, Karen. 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 12: House. 137 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 5: Republicans have failed to advance a bill that would renew 138 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act FISA, gives law enforcement the 139 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: authority to monitor suspicious interactions with foreign adversaries. After former 140 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: President Trump posted kill FAISA. Nineteen Republicans voted against the 141 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 5: procedural vote, despite House Speaker Mike Johnson urging them to 142 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 5: approve it. Republican Congressman Dan Crenshaw, Texas says he believes 143 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 5: the laws renewal is necessary for the US to monitor 144 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: bad actors all over the world. 145 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: You lose our collection on our adversaries. That's one of 146 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: the most seriously bad things that I can think of happening. 147 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: I've never been worried like I'm worried now. 148 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 5: However, critics on both sides of the aisle saying that 149 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 5: Americans often get surveiled improperly because of it. The fallout 150 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 5: continues in the fight over a newly revived eighteen sixty 151 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: four Arizona law criminalizing abortion throughout pregnancy unless a woman's 152 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 5: life is at risk. The Arizona Legislature devolved into jeering 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: yesterday as Republican lawmakers shut down discussion on a proposed 154 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 5: repeal of the law. The Arizona Supreme Court cleared the 155 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 5: way this week for enforcing the pre statehood abortion ban 156 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 5: throughout pregnancy, without exceptions for rape or incest. Democratic State 157 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 5: Senator Anna Hernandez called the GOP bloc politically foolish. 158 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 13: It's not about convincing somebody to have an abortion or not. 159 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 14: That is their choice. 160 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 10: This is about do we trust the people to make 161 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 10: the best decision for themselves, And we're saying yes, we do. 162 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 5: A proposed ballot initiative may ask voters in November whether 163 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 5: to place abortion protections into the state constitution. New York City, 164 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 5: fighting back against people who steal packages delivered to residents, 165 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 5: city officials have now introduced new public delivery lockers. Each 166 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: locker can hold twenty five packages at one time. New 167 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: York Mayor Eric Adams New. 168 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 14: Yorkers will be able to receive and send packages using 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 14: secure lockers on public sidewalks. The program is available to 170 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 14: all New Yorkers twenty four to seven and it is 171 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 14: the favorite four letter road of New Yorkers free. 172 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: Currently, seven lockers are installed around the city, including in 173 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: Brooklyn and Hell's Kitchen. Global News twenty four hours a 174 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 5: day and whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News. Now, 175 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 5: I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg Karen. 176 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 177 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sports Update with John stash Hour. John, good morning, 178 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, Karen. 179 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 15: There hasn't been a Master's without a drop of rain 180 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 15: since twenty eighteen, and ranged in the forecast for this 181 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 15: morning sounds like togat at least some of the opening 182 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 15: round in It is expected to be clear Skys the 183 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 15: rest of the weekend. The eighty eighth Masters, John Rahm, 184 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 15: the defending jam Scottie Sheffer won two years ago. Here's 185 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 15: the world number one on playing. 186 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 13: That's the national I mean to me, it's just a 187 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 13: special place. It's kind of the mecca for us growing 188 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 13: up being you know, grown up here in the States 189 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 13: and you know, being Americans. I think this is the 190 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 13: tournament that we all look for, and to be here 191 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 13: on property every year is extremely special. And I mean 192 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 13: it seems like it all stands out. Everything has done 193 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 13: so well here. 194 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 15: Yesterday's par three won by Ricky Fowler, no one has 195 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 15: ever won it, and then won the green jacket. They 196 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 15: were five holes and won in the event, and including 197 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 15: one by Gary Woodland, who's playing the Masters after undergoing 198 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 15: brain surgery. Last fall at the Stadium Marlin's with the Yankees, 199 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 15: five's too, Jake Berger a three run homer off Marcus Stroman, 200 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 15: John Carlos Stanton homer for the Yanks. Mets and Braves 201 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 15: reigned out in Atlanta. The Red Sox had a five 202 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 15: to nothing lead in the sixth inning, lost to the 203 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 15: Orioles seven to five. Twenty year old Jackson Holiday went 204 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 15: over four Big League debut for Baltimore. He's the son 205 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 15: of Matt Holliday. He's considered MLB's top prospect. Giants beat 206 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 15: the National seven to one. Cleveland top the White Sox. 207 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 15: The Guardians have brothers in their lineup, and Bow and 208 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 15: Josh Naylor both homeward in the fourth inning. Big NBA 209 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 15: game for first place in the West. Denver beat Minnesota. 210 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 15: Nikolaoa could scored forty one. The netsbeat Toronto one of 211 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 15: six to one oh two. The next play tonight in Boston. 212 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 15: Rangers trying to finish first overall. They host Philadelphia, the Islanders, 213 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 15: seeking a playoff for their home for Montreal. The WNBA 214 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 15: TV schedule is out. Thirty six of Indiana's forty games 215 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 15: will be on National TV. The Fever Expecutive Draft Caitlin 216 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 15: Clark on Monday, John Stashawer Blueberg Sports, Karen Nathan. 217 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: All Right, John Stashauer, thank you. SMP futures down to 218 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: tenth seven percent, so our down futures Now's day futures 219 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: down about the same. In the ten year treasury yield 220 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: is that four point five six percent. 221 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 5: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide, on Sirius XM and. 222 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 10: Around the world on Bloomberg dot com and the Bloomberg 223 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 10: Business app. 224 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Well, 225 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: the third month was definitely not the charm on the 226 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: road to disinflation. The March Consumer Price Index did come 227 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: in hotter than expected, once again, keviny investors pushing back 228 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: bets on rate cut timing from the Federal Reserve. For more, 229 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: we're joined by City US economist Veronica Clark. Veronica, good morning, 230 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. 231 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 12: For being with us. 232 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 16: Good morning, Yeah, thank you for having me. 233 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: So is the road to disinflation still bumpy or is 234 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: this third in a row CPI hotness the new trend? 235 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I think most food officials will probably 236 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 16: still characterize this as bumpy. Of course, it will be 237 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 16: core PC inflation that matters most for the Fed, and 238 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 16: we'll see what that comes out today once we get 239 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 16: details of PPI data. But I think, you know, maybe 240 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 16: the hawks are getting a bit more uncomfortable and it 241 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,359 Speaker 16: does kind of get harder to come to a consensus 242 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 16: to cut maybe as soon as June. But there are 243 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 16: a lot of uncertainties, of course, with all the other 244 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 16: data that we're going to get before June. 245 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: Also, do you guys over at City count yourselves as Hawks, 246 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: So are you getting more uncomfortable yourselves? 247 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 16: No, not necessarily. We're We're probably one of the more 248 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 16: dubvish forecasts out there right now. We think the Fed 249 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 16: is still cutting in June and then cutting every meeting 250 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 16: after June. So that is one hundred and twenty five 251 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 16: basis points of cuts this year. That's well more than 252 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 16: what's priced right now. But I think for us, you know, 253 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 16: we are trying to be more forward looking. We are 254 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 16: trying to assess the other types of data that we 255 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 16: might see over the coming months. You know, labor market 256 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 16: data that has been very strong, but some of the 257 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 16: details look a bit precarious, and I think the said 258 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 16: would be very dubvish if we know we're getting some 259 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 16: weaker labor market data. 260 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, first cut in June is looking more and more 261 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: like a bold call given the data that we have 262 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: seen so far. In some of the commentary that we're 263 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: hearing from the likes of Larry Summers, the former Treasury 264 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: secretary who was on Bloomberg yesterday, saying, maybe we they 265 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: hold out the possibility that the next move from the 266 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: Fed is a hike. I mean, how do you push 267 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: back against that? 268 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I think that is probably pretty unlikely. 269 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 16: I think at least Fed officials will see at least 270 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 16: that the current level of rates is restrictive. And we've 271 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 16: heard that most FED officials, certainly from fair Powell. And 272 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 16: so if you know, inflation is coming in a bit 273 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 16: hotter than comfortable and they're comfortable with they're not, you know, 274 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 16: getting that further confidence that they want to see. It's 275 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 16: not necessarily that we're talking about hikes again. They would 276 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 16: probably just lead rights elevated for a bit longer. We're 277 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 16: just talking about pushing out those cuts. 278 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: What is it that's keeping these price pressures so sticky? 279 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: What are you seeing in the data that has inflation 280 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: where it is and has you still thinking that there 281 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: is still room for the Fed to make a cut. 282 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, we honestly do still see a lot 283 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 16: of stickiness and services inflation. So we've seen that for 284 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 16: a while in shelter inflation, which which should slowing at 285 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 16: some point and as we're getting into two later this year, 286 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 16: but a lot of the strength and yesterday's CPI data 287 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 16: with non shelter services. Actually about half of that strength 288 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 16: and non shelter services had to do with auto insurance, 289 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 16: which interestingly does not go into the Fed's preferred PC 290 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 16: inflation measure. But even in PC inflation, I think we're 291 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 16: we're still seeing a lot of stickiness to services inflation 292 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 16: and that has to do with, you know, a tight 293 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 16: labor market. We're still running wages that are around four 294 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 16: to five percent or so. That's a fit stronger than 295 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 16: you want to see to be consistent with two percent inflation. 296 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 16: So there is still some loosening to go. But I 297 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 16: think we do see the signs in the labor market, 298 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 16: details in demand for workers hiring that has really slowed down. 299 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 16: That leads us to think we are going into a 300 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 16: much looser label market. 301 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: So we only have about thirty seconds left here, Veronica, 302 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: what are you expecting when it comes to producer prices 303 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: out this morning and whether that could change the narrative 304 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: that we're in this market. 305 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 16: Yeah, this one one could be interesting. There's a couple 306 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,479 Speaker 16: things to watch, you know, we're looking at the transportation 307 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 16: and the good kind of components of PPI data that 308 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 16: could be a bit stronger. We might see a stronger 309 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 16: headline PPI increase. But most importantly today, we're watching some 310 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 16: very specific components that go into our mapping of core 311 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 16: PCE inflation for March, and of course that's what the 312 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 16: said we'll care most about. We are expecting to see 313 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 16: some strength in components like medical services, certain financial services, 314 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 16: and that could mean that forecasters are expecting, you know, 315 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 16: a bit stronger core PCE even than we had in February. 316 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 16: We had a twenty six basis point increase in February. 317 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 16: We're tracking at around thirty basis points right now. That 318 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 16: could mean that we're just pushing these cuts further out 319 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 16: market continues to price outcuts. 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