1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: HIV. Are you ready to have a great episode today? Oh? 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: You bet, Elliott. But it's not just a great episode. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: It's the greatest episode because we're talking about not one 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: but two great yep, Greek conqueror Alexander the Great and 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Russian Empress Catherine the Great. You know, it's kind of 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: funny to have two subjects with the same last name. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: Be What are you talking about? They both have the 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: same last name Great. You think they were related or 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: maybe they were married true love on the Whos podcast? No, be, 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Alexander the Great and Catherine the Great lived nearly two 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: thousand years apart from each other. Who talk about a 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: long distance relationship, But hey, if the love is there, 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: you can make it work. No. Great wasn't their last name. 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: It's a title they were given for being larger than 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: life rulers who made history in their lifetimes. Okay, now 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: I get it. Sorry for the mix up, thank you, 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: But still, Alexander the Great and Catherine the Great? How 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: bonkers is it that they both have the same middle name, 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: the And it's such a weird middle name. I mean, 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: what are the odds? Hey? Eric, can you play the 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: theme song before the Angry Vein and Elliot's forehead explodes. 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: He go, what do you think you know about the 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: rates room? This before the game is on? To get 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: some energy and buckle up your brain, because it's time 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: to play the worst podcast. Because it's time to play 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: Who Live from Tongaland or so called so Cow? Los 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: Angeles Love Them? Who Was? The history quich show that 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: gives contestants the chance to win mega prizes and podcast Glorie, 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm your announcer, be and my name is an acronym 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: for best ever announcer. And here's your host, owner of 31 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: the world's largest collection of air in jars. It's Elliott 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: A Linn. Thank you Be. It also doubles as the 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: largest collection of jars. And welcome everyone to the Who Was? Podcast. 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: This show is like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests, silly games, 35 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: and a robot baby who tells us the weather it 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: is makes me a dreen with a dirty person and 37 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: of raining not how Yes, I knew I was right 38 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: to leave out those buckets. I think we need to 39 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: call the baby weather robot repair a guy. Anyway, our 40 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: contestants were sent who Was books about two great figures 41 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: from history. Now they're here to show off their knowledge 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: and the hope of winning fantastic prize. Today we're talking 43 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: about Alexander the Grady and Pathrid the Great to historical 44 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: figures who were definitely not great when it came to modesty. 45 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: But before we learn about them, let's learn about our contestants. Okay. 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: First up, we have are In. Are In, Please introduce yourself. Hi, 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: my name is In and I have two dogs that 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: their names Cinnamon and Fast and Cinnamon is igantic, Baston 49 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: just normal. Now are you a big fan of cinnamon? 50 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: Is it one of your top spices? Yeah? Our family 51 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: when it says but four pepoon the cinnamon, were like, 52 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: we just pour it out until it's until we think 53 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: that it's an elk, which is after a very long time. 54 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever made the mistake while cooking where it 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: says poor in cinnamon and you've taken the dog cinnamon 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: and put it into the food. Nope, but we do 57 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: make jokes about that. Okay, good, good, nice, All right, 58 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: thank you? Are in and with us today we also 59 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: have Grace. Grace, please introduce yourself. I'm I'm the oldest 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: of four. You're the oldest of four. Oh my goodness. 61 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Uh your How old are your other siblings? Eight sticks 62 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: and three? Oh my goodness. Okay, now are you closer 63 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: with one of them? Like more close than with the 64 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: other ones? But if who who would you team up with? 65 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: If it was it was a sibling competition, who would 66 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: you team up with? Probably the youngest and she's the 67 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: only one who do just know how to kick? Strategy. 68 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: That's very good strategy. Have you ever thought about four 69 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: kids in one family? Have you ever thought about starting 70 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: a band? Think about it. It's a great number. And 71 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: also you can stand on the stage next to the 72 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: youngest since they won't kick you. Very important thing in 73 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: a band, not to get kick. All right, Well, thank 74 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: you both so much for joining us today. It's great 75 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: to have you here on the show. Okay, that's who 76 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: is Now let's find out who was Alexander the Great 77 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: with four fast facts. Alexander was born in three hundred 78 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: fifty six BC and died in three hundred twenty three BC. 79 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Because it's BC, the numbers go down instead of up. 80 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Alexander the Great became King of Macedonia when he was 81 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: only twenty years old. He went on to become one 82 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: of the world's top five conquerors, taking over Egypt, Persia, 83 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: and Afghanistan all before he turned thirty. Alexander solved the 84 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: famous riddle of the Gordian knot, a knot that was 85 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: said to be impossible to untie, and he solved it 86 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: by chopping it in half with his swords. That sounds 87 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of accomplishments before your thirty. So are 88 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: in and Grace. We have to ask you, do you 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: think being thirty years old is old? No? Not really? 90 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: My dad's fifty three. What a relief? What a relief 91 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: that you both said no, Because I thought that you 92 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: were going to say, yes, that's extremely old, and then 93 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: I was going to have to say, but I'm more 94 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: than thirty years old, and then you and I'm not old, 95 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: and you would say yes, you are old, very very old, 96 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: and I would be like, I don't think i'm old, 97 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: and you would both be like, but you are old, 98 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: very very old. Well, my dad's fifty three and he 99 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: doesn't look old at all. So what's his secret? Lots 100 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: of eating, lots of cinnamon, no idea. What we're also 101 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: garlic fad. So what you're telling me is there's a 102 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: vampire free zone for like a mile around your house 103 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: because the garlic is just so strong. Yeah, okay, yeah, Grace, 104 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: what's your feeling on what's your feelings on garlic? And 105 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: then I have a follow up about cinnamon. Don't like 106 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: garlic less? Fine? Garlic bread? Okay, garlic bread is delicious. 107 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: And what about cinnamon? Do you like that on things? Yeah? 108 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: My family isn't a big fan of cinnamon, but we 109 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: like it. And my little list brother is puts it 110 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: on literally everything. You know what. My little brother does 111 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: the same exact thing. He puts cinnamon on everything too, 112 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: and he's a grown man. He's older than thirty, which 113 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: doesn't make him old, although it was rude that it did. 114 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: That's right. Here's a hot tip. Put some cinnamon in 115 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: your chili. All right, now, we've got to get moving 116 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: on to her next. We don't have any more questions 117 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: about chili, but we do have a game. In this 118 00:06:52,760 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: game is called by any other name. In this game, 119 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: we will talk about a part of Alexander the Great's life, 120 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: but using an odd rhyming word or phrase instead of 121 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: the exact one we're looking for. And then you should 122 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: tell us the real word that rhymes with the nonsense 123 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: words so for example, if the answer was Tyrannosaurus rex, 124 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: we would say something funny that rhymes with it, like 125 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: banana forest checks, which is a flavor of check cereal 126 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: I tasted in a dream. It was okay, too much forests, 127 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: not enough banana. And because this is our first game, 128 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: each question is worth one point. Are in your up first. 129 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: Alexander's first conquest came as a teenager when he tamed 130 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: a seemingly untamable horse after realizing the horse was afraid 131 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: of its own meadow shadow. That's right, the answer is shadow. 132 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: Alexander smartly observed that the horse, named Bucephalis, which means 133 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: ox head in grief, would go wild when it saw 134 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: its own shadow and wouldn't let anyone ride him. By 135 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: calmly turning the horse towards the suns that he couldn't 136 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: see his shadow behind him, Alexander was able to keep 137 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Bucephalist peaceful. Capitalist would go on to be Alexander's course 138 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: for years and through many battles. But as the story 139 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: of the Shadow shows, some battles are best one with 140 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: thinking rather than fighting. Okay, Grace, the next rhyme is 141 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: for you. Alexander was the son of King Philip of Macedonia. 142 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: But ever since he was a baby, it was rumored 143 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: he was actually the son of the Greek god goose Zeus. 144 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: That's right, it was the Greek god Zeus that had 145 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: long been suspected that Alexander was actually the son of Zeus, 146 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: king of the Greek gods, And during his conquest of Egypt, 147 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Alexander visited the Temple of Ammon and asked the Egyptian 148 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: gods whose real father was. Nobody knows what he was told, 149 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: but from then on Alexander called himself the son of Zeus. Now, 150 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: of course, fact check, it's not really possible, because Zeus 151 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: isn't real. Uh I hope ze is. If you're real, 152 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: please don't hit me with a lightning bolt. And if 153 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: you do, make sure I'm not in the room. I 154 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: always believed in you Zeus, not like doubting Elliott over here. 155 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for your support, be Why don't you just tell 156 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: our in the next rhyme? Please all right? Are in? 157 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Alexander was as dedicated to learning as he was to 158 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: conquering the entire known world. In fact, when he founded 159 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: the city of Alexandria, he built the first Chai berry library. 160 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: That's right, it was the first library. When Alexander added 161 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: pharaoh of Egypt to his list of jobs, he built 162 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: a new capital city, Alexandria, because he loved naming things 163 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: after himself. Alexandria was famous for its library, which held 164 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: a copy of every book ever written in Greek. The 165 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Library of Alexandria stood for nearly a thousand years until 166 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: it was destroyed in the year six forty a d. Luckily, 167 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: your local library is still around and probably full of 168 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: great who was books. And this final rhyme is for grace. 169 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Alexander's loyal soldiers followed him for years, but they started 170 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: getting mad when he invaded India and made them march 171 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: through a bassoon. I guess no, not now, we're looking 172 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: for a bit, but somewhat close. I'm sorry. The answer 173 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: was monsoon, a heavy rain that lasts for months. Alexander 174 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: made his soldiers marched through NonStop rain and mud for 175 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: seventy days. For seventy days, their clothes were never dry. Yes, 176 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: I know what that's like, mill fun Well, I told 177 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: you being stopped going to the water park in your 178 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,479 Speaker 1: regular clothes. I like what, donnim In the end, Alexander's 179 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: men refused to keep marching and forced Alexander to turn 180 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: back home, though he did make them take the long 181 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: route and keep conquering along the way. In the end, 182 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: Alexander died before retrained to Macedonia. Now it's time to 183 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: return to the show, because that's the end of By 184 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: any other Name. Okay, that was a great round, contestants. Yeah, 185 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: Alexander may be great, but so are your memory. And 186 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: now let's go to our own library of Who Was? 187 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: Andrea producer Jane with the scores, Thank you, Williott. The 188 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: scores are currently are in two grace one, Thank you, Jane. 189 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: A very very close games, still anyone's game, and we'll 190 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: get right back to it after this short break. Eric, 191 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: please play us some marching through a monsoon music if 192 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: you would please, John Phillips, Storms, Welcome back to the 193 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: Who Was? Podcast. Today we're learning all about Alexander the 194 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Great and Katherine the Great and now back to your host, 195 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Elliot Galen. Thank you be. Our scores are currently are 196 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: in two points and grace one point. These are fierce competitors, 197 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: almost as fierce as Alexander and Katherine the Great, So 198 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: let's get right to it by finding out more about 199 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: Catherine the Great with four fast facts. Katherine the Great 200 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: live from seventeen twenty nine to seventeen nine. She ruled 201 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: Russia as empress for thirty four years. Katherine the Great 202 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: wasn't actually Russian, but was originally from Prussia, which is 203 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: now called Germany. She was the first Russian ruler to 204 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: let Russians vote for their own representatives in the governments. 205 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: And now let's get Russian to our next game. Thank you, 206 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: thank you, up and bowing to the applause, I assume 207 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: is coming from the audience at home. It's something we 208 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: call backpack from the past from the baby. Okay, right here, 209 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: I have Katherine the Great's actual backpack, which I found 210 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: on a bus and which contains some of her personal objects. 211 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: B and I are going to describe those objects for 212 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: our contestants and the listeners at home. Contestants, you choose 213 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: the choice that best describes the object and what it 214 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: meant to Katherine. And since this is our second game, 215 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: each question is worth two points. Grace, you're up first. 216 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's see what our first object is. Oh hey, 217 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: it's a thick woolen nightgown. Why would this d in 218 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: Katherine's backpack. Is it a because as a girl she 219 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: used to walk the halls of the palace at night 220 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: in her nightgown studying the Russian language? Or be because 221 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: as empress she was famous for her slumber parties, where 222 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: she and other crown heads of Europe would stay up 223 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: all night eating snacks. A. That's right, The answer is a. 224 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: As a teenager, Katherine was sent to Russia to become 225 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: the wife of the future Emperor Peter the Third, but 226 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: she didn't know how to speak Russian, so she would 227 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: walk the freezing halls of the palace in her nightgown 228 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: studying the language. In fact, she got so cold that 229 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: she came down with pneumonia. The idea that this German 230 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: girl wanted to be Russian so badly that she would 231 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: risk serious illness endeared Katherine to the Russian people. Now 232 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: this next object is for urn, all right. It's a 233 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: toy soldier. Oh, it's a cute little guy with this 234 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: uniform and his mustache. Why would Katherine have this in 235 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: her backpack? Was it because a Katherine blew off the 236 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: steam of being a ruler by making wooden toys in 237 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: her spare time. Or because be her husband, Emperor Peter 238 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: the Third wouldn't stop playing with his toy soldiers. B. 239 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: That's right. The answer is be even as a grown up, 240 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Peter was obsessed with his toy soldiers and would spend 241 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: all night playing through elaborate pretend battles while Katherine sat 242 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: around forward. What a drip, no wonder? Katherine took his 243 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: throne and put him in jail. Well. Also, he was 244 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: giving military secrets to Prussia, a country Russia was at 245 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: warwick Katherine was a Prussian who loved Russia and Peter 246 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: was a Russian who loved Prussia. Who. I guess opposites 247 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: don't attract. Okay, this next object is for grace. WHOA, 248 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: this one's a little big and slippery. Oh it's an 249 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: entire raw turkey. Now I have to go wash my hands. 250 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: But before I do. Why would there be a turkey 251 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: in this backpack? Was it because A Catherine started celebrating 252 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving in Russia or b because she sent her troops 253 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: to fight a war with Turkey. A. I'm sorry. The 254 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: answer is Katherine the Great wanted to fight a war 255 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: with Turkeys that she could take some of its land 256 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: around the Black Sea. Back before airplanes, everything that was 257 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: sent from one country to another had to go by ship, 258 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: and Russia's ports would freeze during the winter, so they 259 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: couldn't be used. But the Black Sea was warm enough 260 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: that it could be used year round. Russia won that 261 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: war and conquered in the area known as Crimea, which 262 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: they eventually lost in the Crimean War of the eighteen fifties, 263 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: and then Russia invaded it again in two thousand fourteen. 264 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: It's very complicated. Look, the important thing is that Turkey 265 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: is both a country and a delicious bird. And our 266 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: last object of the game is for urn. Oh it's hot, 267 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: hot enough, it's a lit candle. Why am I holding 268 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: this by the flame? And why would Katherine have a 269 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: burning light in her backpack? Was it because A she 270 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: loved the liberal philosophies of the Enlightenment as represented by 271 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: a candle, or B she was secretly afraid of the 272 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: dark Ay, that's right. The answers A. Katherine was fascinated 273 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: by the new ideas of the Age of Enlightenment, which 274 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: celebrated science, human equality, and liberty. In addition to introducing 275 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: regional elections to send representatives to see her, she also 276 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: established a famous school for girls, encouraged Russian doctors to 277 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: study the latest breakthroughs, and built the Hermitage, the second 278 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: largest art museum in the world. Of course, she was 279 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: still an empress who sent her armies to take over 280 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: parts of other countries, so she was only slightly enlightened. Yeah, 281 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: she wasn't exactly woke, more like half awake, but drowsy. 282 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: And now it's time for us to wake up from 283 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: that game from the baby. Okay, nice work, everybody. Now 284 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: let's walk down a cold hallway in our nightgowns to 285 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: producer Jane with the schools Elliott, please get dressed. The 286 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: score is currently six for RN and three for Grace. 287 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Thanks Jane. And now it's time for my new segment, 288 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Be Like Me, where I get the lifestyle secrets of 289 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: our historical stars so I can be more like them. 290 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember talking about this segment, b that's because 291 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: I mentioned it when you were asleep. Eric. That Be 292 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: Like Me theme song, Hello and welcome to Be Like Me. 293 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: We've got a very special guest today live in the studio, 294 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: Katherine the Great. Thank you for inviting me onto the 295 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: shall Be. I'm thanks for they hold us ape for 296 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: getting me here. He wants b How long is this segment? 297 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: We've already heard two different songs. Okay, that was the 298 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: last one. Calm down. Today, Catherine the Great will be 299 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: telling us all about what it's like to be great. So, Katherine, 300 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: is there like a great club where everyone called great 301 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: hangs out? That's ridiculous. Be there's no way that there's 302 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: some yip is exactly right. I am in the great club. 303 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: It is me Alexander the Great, Frederick the Great, Cyrus 304 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: the Great, Charlemagne, whose name means Charles the Great, the 305 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: great one, then great Skip, and a magician, the Great Spelledini. 306 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: So Wayne Bretsky and the magician are in a club 307 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: with Charlemagne. They're all called the great, aren't they anyway? 308 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: Nice a year we go to the great likes and 309 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: read the Great gatesby and eat great truth, because it 310 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: sort of sounds like the great fruit. It's a great club, 311 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: of course. Wow. Did you always know you were great? 312 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: Of course? Need When I was young, my name wasn't 313 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: even Caterine yet, I was just little. So they Frederica 314 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: Augusta on Service, the daughter of a minor prince. I 315 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: was always overseaded by my mother, Princess Johanna, Elizabeth horse 316 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: Time or I can't believe these are real names. I know, right, 317 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: nobody knows how to do a name anymore. Everyone was 318 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: disappointed that I wasn't a boy. Nobody takes attention to me. 319 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: After my brother was born, well the jokes on him. 320 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: He totally died young of scarlet fever. Catherine, that was 321 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: very insensitive place. I'm all about enlightenment values. But you've 322 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: got to be pretty ruthless if you're going to overthrow 323 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: your husband Tyke is drowned and conquer your neighbor. So ruthlessness, Okay, 324 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: that's probab of being great. I don't know. Greatness doesn't 325 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: sound very nice. Greatness is different than niceness. It's about 326 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: being a big, powerful, important person. Oh not necessarily a 327 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: good person. Many people were hurt under my rule and 328 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: assigned with Alexander. I attacked Turkey and Poland he burned 329 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: down the city of Persepolis. Brightness and goodness are not 330 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's some kind of down Katherine. Well, 331 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: it's just that it's so much pressure to be great 332 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: all the time. You can never be gentle or silly 333 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: or relaxed or nice. I mean, you hurt a lot 334 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: of people. Sometimes I wish I didn't turn out to 335 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: be great when she just has people to stop calling 336 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: you Catherine the Great, because it's a lot easier to 337 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: say than Sophie. Frederica Augusta on Hole deserves then Elliott 338 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and being this has been great. I was going to 339 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: say mildly amusing, but okay, now I must go. It's 340 00:20:54,680 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: possible to you both and to the hoof? Was it more? 341 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: You know, being a great sounds kind of me. Maybe 342 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be great? Whoa if I'm called 343 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: be the Great, it sounds more like I'm encouraging people 344 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: to be great rather than letting them mild that I'm great. Oh, b, 345 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: don't worry. You were never going to be great. Thanks Elliott, 346 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: before you realize that wasn't a compliment. I want to 347 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: say thank you to Catherine the Great for reminding us 348 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: that greatness. This isn't always that great, but I'll tell 349 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: you what will be great our final game right after 350 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: this short break, Eric, please play us some Sophie Frederic 351 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: august von Holden on Hall ser Catherine the Great music, Eric, 352 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: please play us some cast in the Great music please 353 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: pretty good, Sally, who was Marie? You may remember me 354 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: from winning multiple Nobele rises, or perhaps from my episode 355 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: of the who Wars podcast where I played myself. I 356 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: wanted to take a moment to read one of my 357 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: favorite reviews about the WHOS podcast. This is from Shaken 358 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: Bay and it reads loved this Me and my little 359 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: sister love this show more. Please. Our faith is Rieman. 360 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: If you want to hear your review right on the air, 361 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe, like, and review to the OAS 362 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: podcast in the I Heart Radio up or wherever you 363 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: give your podcasts a revoir or should let's stay abien 364 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: do We're back on the WHOST podcast. When we last 365 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: loved off Or had six points and Grace had three points. 366 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Now back to your host, Elliott Dalen, Thank you be. 367 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: We've had a great time on this great show about greats, 368 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: and now it's a great time for our great last 369 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: great game, Converge of Greatness, and this time it's literal. 370 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: In this multiple choice game will explore how our two 371 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: grades connect, overlap, or converge. And because we're in the 372 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: third round, each question is worth three points. Ready, the 373 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: first question goes to R and B take it away. 374 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: Both Catherine and Alexander were rulers deeply interested in philosophy. 375 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: Katherine kept current on the latest French thinking, and it 376 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: was actually the philosopher Denny Dido who first called her 377 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: the Great. When Alexander was a boy, he was tutored 378 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: by Which legendary Greek philosopher was it A Aristotle, B. 379 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: Plato or c. Clato? Aristotle? You got it right. The 380 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: answers A Aristotle say it with confidence. At the time, 381 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: Aristotle was considered to be the wisest man in Greece, 382 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: and his writings are still studied today. Aristotle taught Alexander 383 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: in exchange for Alexander's dad, Philip, rebuilding Aristotle's hometown, which 384 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: Philip had destroyed. Kids don't get the wrong idea. Destroying 385 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: someone's hometown is not an acceptable way to offer them 386 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: a job. And our next question is for grace. Alexander's 387 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: troops got mad because they never returned home from his 388 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: campaign of conquest, But maybe it's better that they didn't 389 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: go back to Macedonia. When Katherine the Great's troops returned 390 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: from the war with Turkey, what did they bring back 391 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: with them? A blisters be the bubonic plague or see 392 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: seven years bad luck the plague. You're exactly right. The 393 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: answers be the bubonic plague, or, as it's also known, 394 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: just the plague. That's how bad it is. The plague 395 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: ended up killing many more of Katherine's people than the 396 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: war did. People were so frightened that Katherine almost lost 397 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: control of Moscow until she imposed a strict quarantine. So remember, kids, war, 398 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: what is it good for? Absolutely nothing, unless you're a 399 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: plague germ, in which case war is great for you. 400 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: And the next question is for urn. Russia was low 401 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: on money when Catherine took over, so she showed solidarity 402 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: by refusing to take a salary as empress. Similarly, when 403 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: Alexander let his men on a deadly march through an 404 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: enormous desert, how did he show solidarity with them? Did 405 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: he A refuse to drink water until there was enough 406 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: for everyone, b throw away his shoes because some of 407 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: his soldiers had lost theirs, or see eat only onions, 408 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: no matter how bad it made his breath smell A. 409 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: That's right, The answer is A. After days of grueling 410 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: marching under the hot sun, a soldier brought Alexander a 411 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: helmet full of water, the only water they could find, 412 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: meaning nobody would drink except Alexander. Rather than take a 413 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: sip while his men went thirsty, Alexander poured the water 414 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: on the ground in solidarity. His men cheered and kept marching. 415 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: It took two months, but they eventually reached the end 416 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: of the desert and through a huge party where everyone 417 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: got married. All okay. Our final question is for grace. 418 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: Even though people called Alexander and Catherine great, neither had 419 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: long lasting legacies. After his death, Alexander's empire split into 420 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: three different kingdoms. After Katherine's death, her son Paul passed 421 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: a law that said what a Russians can no longer 422 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: marry Prussians be enlightenment philosophers are not allowed in Russia. 423 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: Or see that no woman could ever rule Russia again. 424 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: See that's right. The answer is ce Emperor Paul passed 425 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: a law that said the Russian throne could only be 426 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: passed on to an emperor's eldest son. This meant a 427 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: woman could never be empress again. Russia no longer has 428 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: an emperor today, but Catherine is still the last woman 429 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: to have ever ever been its leader. In a way, 430 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: it shows how powerful she was that her son felt 431 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: like he needed to pass a law to never let 432 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: it happen again. And that's the end of converge of greatness. 433 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: That great music means it's the end of the great game, 434 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: which means it's almost the end of this great show. 435 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: We'll wait for Jane the Great to tally the points. 436 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from our great contestants. What is 437 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: something you were surprised to learn about Alexander the Great 438 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: and Catherine the Great? Grace? What surprised you? I don't know, 439 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: is an Ammian thing. I guess the real lesson here 440 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: is socks. You gotta wear socks, people, you gotta wear socks. 441 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: You gotta wear socks. And aren what surprised you about 442 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: Alexander the Great or Catherine the Great Alexand I was 443 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: surprised when I read it. Alexander the Great there by 444 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: the arrow that hit Yeah, do you remember that story? 445 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: He Alexander the Great was in so much fighting. At 446 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: one point he got hit with an arrow, but he lived. 447 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: There was all sorts of swords flying all over the place, 448 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: a very dangerous life. And also, again I gotta say, 449 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: socks if you're gonna be if arrows is gonna be 450 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: flying around, you want to have socks on your feet 451 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: you can kind of slip and slide around and also 452 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: so you can keep warm. Always a good idea. It's 453 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: never a bad idea to wear socks. Thank you both 454 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: of you for that very honest answer. Now for the 455 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: great moment of the show, Jane the Great please announced 456 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: our great winner. Well, Grace was way behind, but you 457 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: made a great effort at the end. However, are In 458 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: went ahead with twelve points to Grace's nine. Are In 459 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: is our winner. Nice job, you posted great and we 460 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: hope you had fun. It was an exciting game. Aren 461 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: as our winner. You will have ten great seconds for 462 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: shout outs. Who do you think is great? Who helped 463 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: you win today? Who you want to thank? My parents 464 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: who signed me and listen telling me about it, and 465 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: my friends who are my friends, And of course you 466 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: guys for before just you You're literally made it happen. 467 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I don't think anyone has ever 468 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: given us a shout out after they win. That is 469 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: that was very sweet of you. That was great. Oh 470 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: and while our contestants enjoyed their cinnamon and garlic I'm 471 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: going to give my own shout outs, So I'm gonna 472 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: say our winner and their library of choice, who receiving 473 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: a selection of Who Was books? And I'm going to 474 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: shout out in turns act to Jane Eric, to Natalie 475 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: Walker for being our Catherine the Great and to be 476 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: in a big thank you to both of our contestants 477 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: are playing a great game today, and of course the 478 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: greatest of thank you's to the greatest of all you, 479 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: the listener listening to this show, Thank you for doing so. 480 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: Next week join us again, we'll find out about two 481 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: more amazing people from the past. Until then, this is 482 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: Elliott afraid of his own shadow, Calin saying we're history. 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It 490 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: was hosted by Elliott Caylin with co host Megan O'Neill 491 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: as b This episode also starred Jane Baker as Jane, 492 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: Eric Shackney as Eric, and Natalie Walker as Catherine the Great. 493 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Richard Corson, Alex Boch, Elliott Kaylin, 494 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. Our executive producer 495 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: for Penguin Workshop is Francesco Sedita, and our executive producer 496 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: for iHeart Media is Lindsay Hoffman. This episode was written 497 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Kaylin and Devin Coleman, who was 498 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: produced by Bernie Kaminsky and Taylor Kowalski. Our talent producer 499 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: is Jane Baker. Our theme song and the music are 500 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: composed and performed by Eric Shackney. This episode was edited 501 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: and mixed by Breematan and Kate Molden Howard, which recorded 502 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: by Alison Worth and special thanks are due to Zach Timpson, 503 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Charlotte Dienda, Daniel Goodman and Michael Lewis Howard, who was 504 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: podcast was recorded at the I Heart Studios in Los Angeles, California. 505 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: Sound services were provided by Great City Posts Podcast Church 506 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Standard three. He was better as he has