WEBVTT - Drive Time: AFC East Preview with Evan Lazar

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<v Speaker 2>What is up? Dolphins?

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast, part of the

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>I am your.

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<v Speaker 1>Host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's episode, our penultimate divisional

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<v Speaker 1>preview episode takes us inside our own division, the AFC East.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Lazar from Patriots dot Com will join us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be all Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Patriots right here

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<v Speaker 1>from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie, Jeff, let's go ahead and jump right into my

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Patriots dot COM's Evan Lazar.

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<v Speaker 2>And joining us today for the AFC East.

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<v Speaker 1>Preview for the twenty twenty three season is a man

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<v Speaker 1>from Patriots dot Com, the host of the Catch twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two podcasts there for the Patriots podcast Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Evan Lazar. Evan, how you been man? It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>long time since we've talked.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, it's been a long time since we've done

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<v Speaker 3>a show together. Saw each other at the Combine, which

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<v Speaker 3>is always fun to see everybody that you know mostly

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<v Speaker 3>from social media, but they get to meet them in person.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was that was cool, and uh yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to be back and doing something with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you down here for Week one last year? You

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<v Speaker 2>had to have been.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't, actually because I caught COVID in our trip

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<v Speaker 3>to Vegas for the final preseason games. As the one

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<v Speaker 3>road game I didn't travel to last year was Miami,

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<v Speaker 3>but knock on wood all, I'll be back there this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But I still can't get every road game. That last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is it. I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 3>every single game, and then it turned out that I

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<v Speaker 3>missed that one, But I always loved coming down to Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been down there before for past Patriots games. I

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<v Speaker 3>was at the Miami Miracle. Unfortunately, I was at a

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<v Speaker 3>few other Patriots Dolphins games, so it's always a good

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<v Speaker 3>place to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I sit on the furthest section over closest to the visitors,

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<v Speaker 1>like reporters, and I remember I didn't come say hi

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<v Speaker 1>to you. It's like I wouldn't do that if if

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<v Speaker 1>I had seen you, So I was wondering if you

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<v Speaker 1>were there or not. But this year, we'll definitely get

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<v Speaker 1>a look and it'll be maybe good weather, at least

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<v Speaker 1>better than the season opener last year, and in early

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<v Speaker 1>September one, it was just hot as hell out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the game will be Sunday, October twenty ninth here

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<v Speaker 1>week number eight, one o'clock kickoff. Dolphins face the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>as well week two up in Foxborough for a Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>night kickoff on the seventeenth of September. But we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start here before we get into the games against the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>With the thirty thousand foot view of the afast breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down this division. You and I both have been covering

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<v Speaker 1>this division for a long long time, so I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be fun to talk about it with you here

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. A lot's gone on here, man, This

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<v Speaker 1>division has gone from one team that dominated for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years to all of a sudden, really a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>teams that feel really good about where they are heading

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<v Speaker 1>into the new campaign. Kind of just talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>division as a whole and how the offseason's gone so

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<v Speaker 1>far in the AFC East.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, ultimately, I still think we're all chasing Buffalo, and

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<v Speaker 3>until Buffalo is dethroned as division champs, the Bills should

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<v Speaker 3>probably feel pretty good about repeating as long as they

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<v Speaker 3>have that nucleus together of Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs

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<v Speaker 3>on the offensive side of the ball, And even though

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<v Speaker 3>they lost Tremaine Edmonds on defense, I still think the

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<v Speaker 3>general outline of their defense is pretty similar at going

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<v Speaker 3>into this year as well. So for the Patriots against

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<v Speaker 3>the Bills, that they have one win in the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years, which was that Gail Force wins game

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<v Speaker 3>Monday night in Buffalo. Other than that, they don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a win against Buffalo since I think nineteen when Brady

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<v Speaker 3>was here, So last so I always look up at Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think what's fun or interesting about this division?

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe the Patriots, and we'll get to them. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>individually in a second, have gone about it a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit differently than the Jets and the Dolphins have. But

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<v Speaker 3>it really feels like the AFC East has turned into

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<v Speaker 3>an arms race where everybody is just trying to load

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<v Speaker 3>up as much as they can offensively to try to

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<v Speaker 3>compete with Buffalo. And you look at what the Jets

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<v Speaker 3>have done with Aaron Rodgers. Obviously, Miami's done with the

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<v Speaker 3>receivers that they've added around to and hiring Mike McDaniel

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<v Speaker 3>to bring an offensive flavor to the Dolphins organization. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to score some points in the AFC East.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know defensively these teams are pretty good too,

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<v Speaker 3>but I still think that the quarterbacks and the offense

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be what ultimately decides the division.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the Gail Force wins.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad Buffalo didn't put a dome or I

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<v Speaker 1>guess propose a dome stadium up there in western New York, because,

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<v Speaker 1>like the weather in this division to meet is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more fascinating things you Hays get the wind

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<v Speaker 1>up in the meadow lands, you get the heat down

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<v Speaker 1>here obviously, you get crazy lake effects snow in Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course in Foxborough you never know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get with those weather winter temperatures up there

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's one of the most fun divisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Not saying that just because I'm so innundated by this

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<v Speaker 1>AFC East Division, but man, the off season of just

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<v Speaker 1>crazy acquisitions, a big time quarterback coming over.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, last year going into that Week three game

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<v Speaker 1>against Buffalo are kind of mantras as Dolphins fans, was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to beat him first before we can start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how we might have a chance to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>surpass him in the standings. And that has to be

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<v Speaker 1>the case, you know, going into this year, just like

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<v Speaker 1>it was for the Patriots for so many years there.

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<v Speaker 2>But you mentioned Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>We kick it off with the Buffalo Bills and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about their off season here because you know, a change

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<v Speaker 1>of defensive cordion they're gonna have Sean McDermott calling plays

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<v Speaker 1>this year. You mentioned, you know, the replacing Tremaine Edmonds

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of that defense. Let's go ahead and start

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<v Speaker 1>there on defense for Buffalo because last year a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit up and down performance, there's lots of injuries on

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<v Speaker 1>that side.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you see them coming back this year, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with a new play caller who is their head coach

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<v Speaker 1>on defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's a really interesting way to go

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<v Speaker 3>about things for the Bills. And I understand that they

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<v Speaker 3>probably feel pretty good about Dorsey on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 3>of the ball, and Josh Allen maybe even calling his

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<v Speaker 3>own game to a degree at this point in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm never I always have reservations about head coaches

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<v Speaker 3>taking over play calling that haven't done it in a while,

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<v Speaker 3>or that's not really the way that they want to

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<v Speaker 3>go about things. It's almost like McDermott has to take

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<v Speaker 3>it over just out of necessity because they don't really

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<v Speaker 3>have anybody to step in to that role for Leslie Frazier.

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<v Speaker 3>So I look at the Patriots and how they've done

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<v Speaker 3>things too. Bill Belichick has never really been a play

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<v Speaker 3>caller as the head coach of the Patriots. He's been

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<v Speaker 3>more of that CEO type on the sideline that's just

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<v Speaker 3>quality control and overseeing the entire operation, and he allows

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Obviously Bill O'Brien coming back to call plays

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<v Speaker 3>offensively and Steve Belichick doing the play calling defensively. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be interesting to see how it works out

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<v Speaker 3>for Buffalo. And I think the other thing that you're

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<v Speaker 3>sort of waiting for this with this defense is those

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<v Speaker 3>younger pass rushers, you know, guys like Greg Russo for instance.

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<v Speaker 3>Are those guys and Head Oliver who just got that

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<v Speaker 3>massive extension, are they gonna step up and really be

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<v Speaker 3>a force up front alongside von Miller? Which when does

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<v Speaker 3>he come back? Is he gonna come back full strength

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<v Speaker 3>and be the same guy he was before the injury,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is another big question. We know about their secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>They're really well coached back there. They have a good system,

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<v Speaker 3>They've been good in the past defense in the secondary

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time. But I feel like Buffalo is

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<v Speaker 3>still waiting for really Russo and Ed Oliver to truly

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<v Speaker 3>come into their own and start to take over games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the von Miller thing is really intriguing because I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you add him to the mix and you

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<v Speaker 1>get von Miller, all of a sudden, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>front that is just going to put relentless pressure on quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the addition of Leonard Floyd and Puna Ford

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<v Speaker 1>in that defensive line to make a strength even stronger

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<v Speaker 1>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned the secondary, Like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>We always look at the acquisitions teams making the offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes it's just your incumbents or guys that you

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<v Speaker 1>get back. They didn't have Micah Hyde and Jordan Ployer

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<v Speaker 1>for most of the year last year. Then you add

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Rapp and Cameron Danzler, you know, to Ron Johnson's

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<v Speaker 1>back there, and he's one of the best nickels in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire game. So I think that's a really intriguing part.

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<v Speaker 1>They're on the defense. And you mentioned, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty thousand foot view portion, how the other teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the arms race kind of trying to catch up

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bills offensively in this division. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo and they did rework the offensive line, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, didn't really do a whole lot to

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<v Speaker 1>add to their offense. I'm curious how you think the

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<v Speaker 1>impact of a couple of guys will will help that offense,

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<v Speaker 1>because they really made two moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Damien Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Harris, who I love and you know very well and

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton Kin kid the rookie tight end. Curious how you

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<v Speaker 1>think those two guys impact this offense?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I feel like, and then with all this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that's come out about Stefan Diggs, and it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>his unhappiness was about how they tried to be a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more traditional offensively in the second half of

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<v Speaker 3>the year to take some of the pressure off of

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen. And that's what I felt like the Damien

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<v Speaker 3>Harris signing was for, was to give them a true

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<v Speaker 3>between the tackles early down back. I mean, we know

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<v Speaker 3>Harris really well up here, and he's a power back.

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<v Speaker 3>He's somebody that's gonna be able to tote the rock

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<v Speaker 3>if he's healthy one hundred and fifty two hundred times

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground. But is that really how Buffalo wants

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<v Speaker 3>to play. It doesn't seem like that's what Diggs wants

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<v Speaker 3>to do, right. They want to air it out and

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<v Speaker 3>throw it and be one of those teams that we

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<v Speaker 3>see every single year, you know, passing over expected. Buffalo

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<v Speaker 3>and Kansas City are always like all the way over

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<v Speaker 3>here and everybody else is like sort of middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the pack. So is that going to continue for the

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<v Speaker 3>Bills now that they have a guy like Damien Harris,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought maybe not, and then they go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>they draft Dalton Kincaid, who's basically just a big wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is kind of mixed signals I think from

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<v Speaker 3>Buffalo where they're headed, and they obviously want to keep

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<v Speaker 3>their star wide receiver happy. So I still lean towards

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<v Speaker 3>the Bills being a heavy pass team and really putting

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<v Speaker 3>most of it on Josh Allen in that passing game.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think what they need to do offensively, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is where some of the running stuff I think

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<v Speaker 3>was supposed to come in, is they need to be

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<v Speaker 3>more consistent and not as volatile where they could hang

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<v Speaker 3>fifty on you. But they can also have a game

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<v Speaker 3>like they did against the Bengals and the playoffs. And

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<v Speaker 3>when you heavy, is the head that wears the crown

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<v Speaker 3>right like Buffalo. I say this all the time to

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<v Speaker 3>Bill's Mafia when they have me on their shows. We

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<v Speaker 3>knew it all well and good in New England that

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<v Speaker 3>you got to target on your back and the expectation

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<v Speaker 3>is super Bowl or bust. And when you're the Bills,

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure is starting to mount a little bit to

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<v Speaker 3>get that first Super Bowl championship and maybe that breaks

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<v Speaker 3>the damn right they get one and all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden they're a team that wins a couple in a

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<v Speaker 3>few years. But until they get that first one, the

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<v Speaker 3>pressure is going to continue to mount and mount and

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<v Speaker 3>mount in Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally the last bullet point I had to ask

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<v Speaker 1>about was the pressure that they might be facing this year,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, like you said, I listen to all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of different podcasts around the NFL, and that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I hear about is this has to be

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<v Speaker 1>the year for Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it does it? I don't know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know you mentioned some of the additions on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line there. I thought they did a great

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<v Speaker 1>job of going and getting Brandon Shall of Cyrus Torrance

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<v Speaker 1>and who was the other one up here, Connor McGovern

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason, So maybe there is a little more thought

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<v Speaker 1>there towards the running game. But like you mentioned, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the best example of the passing game and

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<v Speaker 1>being reliant on that and the pressure they felt was

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<v Speaker 1>like you talked about in the playoffs, because before the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals game against Miami, Alan average like it was something

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<v Speaker 1>like fourteen are yards per throw in that game against Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>and he turned the ball over a lot in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kept Miami in the game till the very

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<v Speaker 1>end there, you know, with a rookie quarterback under center

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<v Speaker 1>for them. So I'm curious how, like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how you could possibly answlis Evan. I'm gonna ask anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't know the psyche of the professional athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm thinking about your time covering the Patriots because

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<v Speaker 1>when the first they had that first like dynasty, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they just won right away and they kept winning after that,

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<v Speaker 1>So there wasn't like this pressure to go get a

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<v Speaker 1>championship at that time. But I think the second part

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<v Speaker 1>of Brady's career, when the championships weren't coming and they

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<v Speaker 1>had lost a couple of Super Bowls, did they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel that sense of pressure? How do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that team can kind of compare to this Buffalo team

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of we got to go find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to win a ring because right now we have this

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<v Speaker 1>all time great quarterback, we have to pay it off

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<v Speaker 1>with a championship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I look at let's face it, and now in hindsight,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have to worry about this in New England.

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<v Speaker 3>But if the Patriots dynasty quote unquote had just started

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<v Speaker 3>at two thousand and five and they never had dynasty

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<v Speaker 3>two point zero in the twenty tens, then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>look back and say they only won three times with

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Brady, Like that's kind of a failure, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>similar to how like Brett fav won once in Green

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<v Speaker 3>Bay in the beginning of his career and never won again,

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<v Speaker 3>and Aaron Rodgers won once and never won again. Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's sort of what the narratives might have been in

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Brady's career. And I think it's one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>true that in those early twenty tens, like when they

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<v Speaker 3>reset after the Moss years, like you know, nine to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ten around there, they had some really bad defenses

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<v Speaker 3>and there was a lot of pressure to win another one.

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<v Speaker 3>They went a decade as much success as they had,

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<v Speaker 3>and they made two Super Bowls and they won a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of games. The Patriots about a decade in between

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowls from two thousand and four to twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 3>so there was a little bit of a drought in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of championships. And I think that Buffalo is in

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<v Speaker 3>a similar spot where they have to maximize this Allan

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<v Speaker 3>Digs window and at some point they'll probably turn it

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<v Speaker 3>over to a next regime around Allen because Diggs is

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<v Speaker 3>going to age out and Alan isn't. But will they

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<v Speaker 3>be able to replenish the arsenal at that point and

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<v Speaker 3>will they be able to find another Stefan Diggs to

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<v Speaker 3>pair with a thirty to thirty five year old Josh Allen,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say, And that's really what they're up against right now,

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<v Speaker 3>is making sure that the roster around Allen doesn't h

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<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't wilt around him to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>then they have to reset. So I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of pressure on Sean McDermott and Buffalo, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think you have to start really considering the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>if they don't get over the hump and they don't

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<v Speaker 3>at least make the super Bowl here soon, how much

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<v Speaker 3>longer is Sean McDermott gonna have until they look at

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<v Speaker 3>it and say, well, he got us to this point,

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<v Speaker 3>but is he really the coach that's gonna win a

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<v Speaker 3>title for us? And I kind of go always go

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<v Speaker 3>back and cross sports, you know, like with the Warriors

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<v Speaker 3>right with Mark Jackson, and then the finally they bring

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<v Speaker 3>in Steve Kerr and he's the one that gets them

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<v Speaker 3>the championship. And maybe that's a similar thing with Sean

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<v Speaker 3>McDermott and the Bills. We'll see. But ultimately I really

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<v Speaker 3>find it interesting to see where this offense is headed

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<v Speaker 3>and what they do because the two things that have

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<v Speaker 3>really stood out to me about Buffalo, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>sort of their bottom line, is that Josh Allen can

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<v Speaker 3>easily win the game for you as easily as he

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<v Speaker 3>can throw it away for you. And the interceptions and

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<v Speaker 3>the high volatility for their offense, especially like in the

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<v Speaker 3>red zone and things like that and short yardage has

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<v Speaker 3>been a big problem for them in these close games

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<v Speaker 3>against playoff teams in the playoffs like last year. And secondly,

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<v Speaker 3>they're running game without Allen being a factor. Just their

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<v Speaker 3>traditional turn it, you know, turnaround and hand the ball

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<v Speaker 3>to the running back style running game has been bad

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of years. It just has been bad.

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<v Speaker 3>So are they going to go all in on Allen

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<v Speaker 3>being Cam Newton two point zero and just let them

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<v Speaker 3>keep running all over the place, or are they going

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<v Speaker 3>to try to shift and then talking about the longevity

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<v Speaker 3>of Josh Allen, right, like how much do you really

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<v Speaker 3>want to put on his plate? So I think that offensively,

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<v Speaker 3>they're at sort of a schematic crossroads of what's really

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<v Speaker 3>best for the long term and maybe what's best for

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<v Speaker 3>going all in on the short term to win the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Really well said.

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<v Speaker 1>My first thought was, man, what a tough industry that

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<v Speaker 1>you have a coach who, for my money, is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best in the NFL consistently putting his team

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<v Speaker 1>deep into the postseason. But like you said, like you

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<v Speaker 1>never know, and that I love the basketball baseball crossovers

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<v Speaker 1>here in the podcast to do it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So that Mark Jackson comment was perfect for the podcast here.

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<v Speaker 1>But what a tough industry, man, Like, you're winning all

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<v Speaker 1>these games, and you might, you know, you might have

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<v Speaker 1>that thought in the future of like can't he get

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<v Speaker 1>him over the hump? Like I remember Andy Reid dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with that for years and years before he got that

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<v Speaker 1>first championship with the Chiefs, and now it's like, looking

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<v Speaker 1>back in hindsight, yeah, he's one of the best coaches

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<v Speaker 1>of all time there.

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<v Speaker 2>So very fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Josh Allen stuff man the way sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when he gets hit Evan, I'm like, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting up from that.

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<v Speaker 2>He bounces right back up.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an absolute tank and I'm curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>if they do, you know, continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Having him take that kind of punishment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the front office would like to see him

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<v Speaker 1>not do as much, but sometimes you can't coach the

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<v Speaker 1>player out of the player sometimes. And you know, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of injuries, he did take an injury last year that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't cost him any time, but I think it did

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<v Speaker 1>affect the way he played for a stretch of games

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<v Speaker 1>there with that elbow injury. Facing the New York Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>a team that did beat Buffalo once last year and

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<v Speaker 1>competed in the second contest with him. But now the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets all of a sudden have their answer at the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest position that was a real weakest for him last

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<v Speaker 1>year at quarterbacks. They pivot here to the Jets real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dolphins wi play the Buffalo Bills Week four in

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo on October the first at one o'clock kickoff, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the season finale Week eighteen down here in Miami

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<v Speaker 1>for possibly a Saturday or a Sunday game against Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of the New York Jets, it all starts with

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, right, Aaron Rodgers. I just want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion here of someone's opinion that I really respect

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the x's and o's and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>scheme fits and all that stuff. What do you make

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<v Speaker 1>of Aaron Rodgers' season last year where it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a downturn from the previous two MVP seasons, And

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<v Speaker 1>how do you think he can get back to that

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<v Speaker 1>this year or will he not get back to that?

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers last year reminded me so much of twenty

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen Brady, And as it turns out, it was his

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<v Speaker 3>last year, just like it was in with Brady in

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<v Speaker 3>New England, his last year being in Green Bay last year.

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<v Speaker 3>So you look at what happened last year with the Packers.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a big turnover at the wide receiver position.

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<v Speaker 3>They traded the Adams the Patriots in nineteen Rob Gronkowski retires, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So two kind of you know, Hall of Fame caliber players,

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<v Speaker 3>pillars of the organization. They leave, and the quarterback is

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<v Speaker 3>stuck making it work with rookies and new guys and

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<v Speaker 3>new faces and new places. And they get frustrated. They

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<v Speaker 3>just naturally get frustrated. Aaron Rodgers has to look at

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<v Speaker 3>it and say, they didn't give me enough to win

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<v Speaker 3>a Super Bowl this year. We don't have the talent

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<v Speaker 3>on the offensive side of the football or the experience

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<v Speaker 3>to really win a Super Bowl. And then he's also

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<v Speaker 3>not playing at the level that we're used to seeing

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<v Speaker 3>him play, and all of a sudden, now you have

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<v Speaker 3>a disgruntled quarterback. And Brady's famous line was the Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>actually started the nineteen season like eight or nine to

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<v Speaker 3>zero because of the defense, and he said that he

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<v Speaker 3>was the unhappiest nine to zero quarterback in the history

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<v Speaker 3>of the NFL. And I think that Rogers probably felt

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<v Speaker 3>the same way, although the record was worse for Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the question really is with the Jets. And now

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<v Speaker 3>he's got Garrett Wilson and he's got some some tools

0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.359
<v Speaker 3>and some pieces to work with. But can they get

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<v Speaker 3>Rogers back dialed in? Can they get that Bucks Brady

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<v Speaker 3>version of Aaron Rodgers. Because Brady goes to Tampa Bay,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got weapons up the Yin Yang with you know,

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, and then Antonio Brown comes

0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.119
<v Speaker 3>and Gromp comes out of retirement and they win a

0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl. So it could it could easily go that

0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 3>way for the Jets, or it could easily go the

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<v Speaker 3>way of a lot of guys at this stage of

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<v Speaker 3>their careers that move on from the team they spent

0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 3>their entire careers with, and it could go belly up.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I honestly think I lean more towards them being

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<v Speaker 3>competitive than not. But how competitive are they is really

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<v Speaker 3>gonna come down to is Aaron Rodgers gonna be the

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<v Speaker 3>MVP Aaron Rodgers or is he gonna just be better

0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:55.119
<v Speaker 3>than Zach Wilson, which like isn't really much of saying much.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that that's gonna be a big thing

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<v Speaker 3>I think in Miami and New England or hope that

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.080
<v Speaker 3>is still the kind of fizzled out Aaron Rodgers. But

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<v Speaker 3>more than likely, I think that he's going to play

0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:07.400
<v Speaker 3>some pretty good football.

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, it's a pretty interesting conversation because

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.679
<v Speaker 1>you have two guys here that want to see that

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.159
<v Speaker 1>ladder portion you were talking about where it does fizzle

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<v Speaker 1>out and we all get to, you know, have our

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<v Speaker 1>laughs of the Jets that we love to get off

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>so much here but certainly look like the most competitive

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.840
<v Speaker 1>team they fielded here in quite a long time. And

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of that goes to the defensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the football what they were able to do last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always look at, you know, top of the

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<v Speaker 1>line defense and who better to talk to you than this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, conversation about sustaining defensive play because the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>have done it for so long. And we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that when the Patriots do come up here next. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always kind of dubious about teams that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have that really dominant defense that just puts together

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<v Speaker 1>a top of the line season that really doesn't allow

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<v Speaker 1>many points in how many yards and just dominates teams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's typically tough to sustain that year after year. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious how you think this Jets defense can do that

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of how it's built upon those two corners, right,

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Reid and obviously Sauce Gardner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the big thing with the Jets defense

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<v Speaker 3>is that it's also built on the system. And we

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<v Speaker 3>know that the system is sound because it's traveled from

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco to New York and to a few other

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<v Speaker 3>places that Robert Salad you know, Kyle Shanahan masterpiece of

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<v Speaker 3>really what has morphed I think in the Jets at least,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I haven't studied the Niners film quite as

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<v Speaker 3>much as I have with the Jets, but they play

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more quarters in like two high structures at

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<v Speaker 3>this point than that true Seattle three system that we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen with Pete Carroll and the Seahawks back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think with this defense, you really have to

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<v Speaker 3>have great linebacker play in order to pull this off.

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<v Speaker 3>And we know in San Francisco they have Warner, they

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<v Speaker 3>have green Law, they have two athletic range ye really

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<v Speaker 3>good zone coverage linebackers. And with the Jets, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>Mosy and it's been Quincy Williams, who's kind of an

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<v Speaker 3>underrated player. I think in the middle of that entire

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<v Speaker 3>defense are those two guys mostly I think is getting

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit up there in age but still a

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<v Speaker 3>good player. And Quincy Williams, like I mentioned, a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a of an unknown to kind of under

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<v Speaker 3>the radar player. Are they going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>continue to dominate the middle of the field at the

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<v Speaker 3>second level like they have over the last couple of

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<v Speaker 3>seasons because I think you know what you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>on the outside with Reed and Sauce, Like those two

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<v Speaker 3>guys are going to be good players, especially Sauce. Gardner

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be one of the best corners in

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<v Speaker 3>the league again, and especially in this system. It's I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to say it's easier for corners, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do think it's a little bit easier than some of

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<v Speaker 3>the man heavy systems that you see across the league

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<v Speaker 3>to just control your side of the field, play bail,

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<v Speaker 3>play cover three, play a little bit of man to

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<v Speaker 3>man Situationally, it feels a little bit like Sauce should

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<v Speaker 3>basically be the same that he was last year, if

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<v Speaker 3>not better. But I look at this defense and I

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<v Speaker 3>also remember, you know, the two games they played against

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<v Speaker 3>New England last year, what really stood out was how

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<v Speaker 3>good their front was. Quentin Williams. Obviously, John Franklin Myers,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is one of the most underrated players in

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<v Speaker 3>the entire NFL. And now they out add Will McDonald

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<v Speaker 3>in the first round. I thought, I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 3>but I thought it was a little bit early for

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<v Speaker 3>will McDonald when they drafted him. And I know the

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<v Speaker 3>rumors were that they were, They were after Roderick Jones

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<v Speaker 3>and they got passed over by the Steelers. Who knows

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<v Speaker 3>what actually ended up happening there. The Jets claim that's

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<v Speaker 3>not what happened, but who knows. And then Bryce Huff

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<v Speaker 3>I think is a really good situational josh U j

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<v Speaker 3>edge rusher type that plays on third down in the

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<v Speaker 3>passing game. They absolutely ate up the Patriots offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>for two games last year with that front, with Quinn

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<v Speaker 3>Williams playing out of his mind for most of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So I look at this defense, I think it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be just as good. I think the systems sound

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<v Speaker 3>and really travels and translates year to year, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you have good players. So I don't really see where

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<v Speaker 3>the dropoff comes for the Jets. I think if you

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<v Speaker 3>are a Dolphins fanner you're a Patriots fan, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>hoping that there's a dropoff coming. Maybe it's at the

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<v Speaker 3>linebacker level with Mosley starting to show his age a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, but it's hard. It's hard to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to see the Jets defense being much worse

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<v Speaker 3>than it was last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You nailed it with the how the Niners played their

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<v Speaker 1>system for so long they're under saloon and really with

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<v Speaker 1>Tamiko Ryan's now going forward, I'm sure with Steve Wilkes,

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<v Speaker 1>but they the cornerback investment wasn't a position they really

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<v Speaker 1>invested in. You see this Jets team they have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>invested heavily with the number. Was it the number four

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<v Speaker 1>overall picked at saw was a couple of years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>And then uh, excuse me, then DJ read obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>big free agent acquisition. But then, like you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that front, they have gone after that position, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>year after year here, Michael Clemens.

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<v Speaker 2>A year ago you mentioned John Franklin.

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<v Speaker 1>Myers got a contract, Carl Lawson got a big contract,

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<v Speaker 1>while back Bryce Huff and Will McDonald the first round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>This year they go out and they get Solomon Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So, man, they have waves and waves of

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<v Speaker 1>pass rushers. And if we can pivot back to the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side here, because I agree with you, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the defense is going to be their calling card once again,

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<v Speaker 1>and if Rogers can make it all happen, then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that that makes them a really dangerous out there in

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC East. By I think you talk about potential,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trapdoor scenarios, because I look at what the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers had last year and Rogers got hit a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>he was under pressure a lot, and that Packers old

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<v Speaker 1>line was awfully banged up. What do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>this Jets offensive line and how you know they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pivot from excuse me, evan, from from that Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Lafloor to Nathaniel Hackett and how the offensive line kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comes together because I'm looking at a line that

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<v Speaker 1>is really relying at that tackle position on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that have been banged up a lot last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, and Mkai Beckton and Dwayne Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great point, and I would definitely point to

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<v Speaker 3>the line as being the real potential Achilles Heel for

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets. And as much as Aaron Rodgers over his

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<v Speaker 3>career has been mobile and been able to move around

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<v Speaker 3>at this stage at forty, like, who knows how mobile

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<v Speaker 3>he's truly gonna be. And I look at that really

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<v Speaker 3>that right tackle spot with Mkai Becton, like how many

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<v Speaker 3>times are we going to do this? With Mkai Beckton

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<v Speaker 3>counting on him as being a full time starter and

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that doesn't just you know, half a season, but

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<v Speaker 3>his seventeen plus games and potentially into the playoffs if

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<v Speaker 3>he gets injured. I just don't know where the Jets

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<v Speaker 3>go from there. Max Mitchell, I think he's more of

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<v Speaker 3>a left tackle. He's, you know, a guy that's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit thinner, a little bit more athletic. Carter Warren.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw him at at the Shrine Bowl, I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's a big, big dude. He's a massive guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a rookie out of Pittsburgh, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>got potential and he's got tools. But he's a developmental project,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say. And then we know about Yodnika just

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<v Speaker 3>up here and how that has not exactly panned out

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<v Speaker 3>for him in his NFL career also due to injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's not really somebody that you can count on

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<v Speaker 3>being healthy either. So I look at the tackle spots

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<v Speaker 3>for the Jets, I had big time concerns. I like

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Tipman. I think that was a good draft pick

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<v Speaker 3>by them at center and kind of solidifies that interior

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<v Speaker 3>three with Elijah Veratucker. But where do they where do

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<v Speaker 3>they go at tackle? Do they kick ver Tucker back

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<v Speaker 3>out the tackle? I know he's played tackle a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit in his college career. I'm not sure if he's

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<v Speaker 3>played much there in the pros. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 3>big thing. But with Hackett and with Rogers, you do

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<v Speaker 3>expect them to be a little bit Shanahan, McDaniel Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give it, you know, McDaniel ye as well. Where

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<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be outside zone, there's gonna be motion, there's

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 3>gonna be misdirection, play action, boot action like things like

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<v Speaker 3>that that are going to try to move the pocket,

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<v Speaker 3>are going to try to change the point of attack

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 3>for the defensive line and the pass rushers, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they get by with a smoke and mirrors type of

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<v Speaker 3>approach to an extent up front, but they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to be well schemed, well coached. I always look at

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<v Speaker 3>it at those offenses have to be really well synced

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<v Speaker 3>up right. You have to have the play action and

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 3>the run game and everything sort of marry up so

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<v Speaker 3>that defenses tend to fall for it and really take

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 3>the cheese there. Otherwise, I think if you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to straight up with their tackle situation, especially with what

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 3>they're going to face. At all three teams in the

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<v Speaker 3>AFC East have pass rushers that can get after the

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback as edge guys, they're going to have their word

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<v Speaker 3>cut out for him if they're going to have to

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>just block those guys straight up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Evans providing excellent analysis here on the AFC East

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole. We're going to take our first break

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<v Speaker 1>right here and come back on the other side and

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<v Speaker 1>get to Evans team, the New England Patriots talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how they might impact this AFC East Before that, real

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<v Speaker 1>quick Dolphins faced the Jets twice late in the year,

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday Week twelve at New York for a Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>November the twenty fourth, three o'clock kickoff, and then week

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<v Speaker 1>number fifteen down here in Miami Sunday, December the seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>for one o'clock kickoff. Let's take that break right here

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<v Speaker 1>with my guest Evan Lazar, come back on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Patriots and Dolphins on the AFC East Preview

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<v Speaker 1>edition of the Draft Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Auto Nation, picking it back up

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<v Speaker 1>here with the AFC East preview for our summer preview

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<v Speaker 1>series here on the Draft Time Podcast, My Game, Today's

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Evan Lazar and Evan great stuff on the Jets and Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, we saved the best for last in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the teams that we cover here and the New

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>England Patriots and the Miami Dolphin. Let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>start up there in Foxborough with your Patriots. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the biggest question Dolphins fans or anybody would have

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>for the Patriots this year is the shift from the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive system a year ago back to Bill O'Brien this

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>year and the impact it might have on Mac Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they get Mac Jones back to more of

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<v Speaker 1>that rookie year production where he was a really good

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and Bill O'Brien's impact on the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you seeing up there so far?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's two ways to discuss this. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest thing is sort of the bird's eye thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>feet view of is competency on offense and competency really

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 3>as an organization, because let's face it, last year, especially offensively,

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 3>but I know it didn't necessarily trickle into results defensively,

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>defense was pretty good. I think overall the operation was

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of a mess, right Bill Belichick held it together

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 3>with duct tape, But let's face it, the way that

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 3>they offer offensive coaching staff was set up. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a ticking time bomb and that really set the tone

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<v Speaker 3>I think for the entire season and the entire ceiling

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 3>of the team last year. So is competency is having

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 3>professional coaches in the right spots where they should be coaching.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that going to be enough to really flip the

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<v Speaker 3>switch for mac Jones and for the entire offense, because

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<v Speaker 3>I still think that they have question marks about high

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 3>end talent, like do they have enough high end talent

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 3>at receiver? They also have tackle issues right now on

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 3>the offensive line, with Trent Brown coming in a little

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 3>bit overweight right tackle being an open competition between a

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 3>couple names that we can go over that aren't exactly exhilarating.

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<v Speaker 3>So their top end talent is not what Buffalo has,

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not what Miami has, especially at the receiver position.

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<v Speaker 3>And is it going to be enough to just be

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<v Speaker 3>a professional operation on the offensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be the number one question

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<v Speaker 3>going in to the season for the Patriots. Notwithstanding if

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 3>they've signed DeAndre Hopkins like that obviously could change that

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 3>outlook a little bit. But a thirty one year old

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<v Speaker 3>DeAndre Hopkins. I don't think all of a sudden we

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<v Speaker 3>look at it and say, oh wow, the Patriots are

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl contenders. It makes them better, But how much better,

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<v Speaker 3>I think remains to be seen. The other question schematically

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<v Speaker 3>about the Bill O'Brien direction of the offense under Bill

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 3>O'Brien and what it means for mac They at least

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.719
<v Speaker 3>in the spring had a pretty good Alabama flair to

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 3>some of the things that they were doing, and it

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of looks like a combination of the Bill O'Brien

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 3>traditional twenty eleven Patriots playbook and what they were running

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>in Tuscaloosa over the last two years. So I think

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a lot of twelve personnel, two

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.479
<v Speaker 3>tight ends with Hunter Henry and Mi Kasicki. I think

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a lot of spread. I think

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a lot of the same things

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 3>that they did in eleven with pace and five wide

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and Brady in the gun just kind of surveying and

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 3>making plays and a lot of stuff in the middle

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 3>of the field up the seams. Like, I don't think

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>this is going to be a bombs away offense. They're

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 3>not going to push the ball fifty sixty yards down

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 3>the field. Necessarily, it's going to be more of that

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Death by a thousand paper cuts that I think Brady

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 3>obviously mastered and hopefully Matt can as well to a degree,

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 3>and then some of the Alabama stuff, motion RPO things

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 3>like that I think will also maybe update it a

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 3>little bit. So I'm excited about that. I think that

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 3>the overall approach of let's do what we do best

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 3>over the last twenty years, but let's just bring it

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>to twenty twenty three and not be stuck in two

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 3>thousand and one with it, I think that's going to

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 3>make good, mean good things for the Patriots. But it

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 3>comes back to Ken mac Jones take that next step

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 3>and can he be the high end talent piece, right,

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 3>can he get into that next upper edche line of

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks where he's driving the bus. I'll give you one

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 3>stat the Patriots in the mac Jones era, this is

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 3>going back to twenty twenty one. They're owen thirteen when

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>the opponent scores more than twenty five points oh in thirteen.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 3>So they have not won a shootout, they have not

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 3>won a thirty five to thirty two game. They haven't

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 3>been able to score enough offensively to win that style

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 3>of game. And when you play Buffalo, when you play

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Miami with their weapons, when you play Aaron Rodgers, you're

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 3>going to get into a lot of games like that

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 3>where it's not going to be enough to score twenty four,

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 3>it's not going to be enough to score twenty seven.

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 3>You're going to have to score into the thirties. And

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 3>can the Patriots put up the numbers to be able

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:42.959
<v Speaker 3>to do that.

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's fascinating to hear you say that, because my

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>next question for you after you just gave us a

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>very comprehensive offensive overview, and I don't think see any

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>holes in your argument.

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty much comprehensive in that way.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's that they do always manage to find a

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>way to have one of the top defenses in the NFL.

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And last year, Evan, maybe you could disagree with me here,

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought might be the year they drop off a

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit because of the personnel and the guys they lost,

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and just how the defense looked going into the year.

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>But I was wrong there, obviously, and a lot of

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>that probably has to do with Bill Belichick. What they

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>do on defense there from a schematics standpoint, but it's

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>crazy because, like I agree with you in terms of

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>needing to score that many points and how offense in

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 1>today's NFL is probably a little more sustainable in terms

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of winning games and having a great defense and not

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>such a good offense, but talking about those defense and

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>how they can help them win those twenty four to

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty games, because you know, I think even the personnel

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>looks good, but even beyond that, you typically have to

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>account for the Patriots just being better on that side

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of the ball than the some of their parts.

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they are so well coached on that side of

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 3>the ball. Obviously starts with Bill Belichick, but Steve Belichick

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 3>has really come into his own as a play caller,

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and Drive Mayo is a future head coach in the league,

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 3>So they really have a guy in Mayo who has

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 3>that DC head coach makeup, doing a lot of the

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 3>just organizational type of stuff, I guess, like the CEO

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 3>type of stuff. On the defense, he does a lot

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 3>of presenting, He does a lot of coaching in practice

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 3>some of the things that you would see a DC do.

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 3>But Steve helps a lot with the game plans and

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 3>calling plays themselves, on Sundays or on game days. So

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 3>that's sort of their set up on defense and what

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 3>they are defensively in terms of scheme is they are

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 3>a true game plan defense. And I don't know if

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 3>that many game plan defenses to the degree that the

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Patriots do it necessarily exist. I mean, we just take

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 3>last year against the Dolphins. They played in that second matchup.

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 3>I know it wasn't against Tua, but even in the

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.959
<v Speaker 3>first matchup, to an extent, they're playing a lot of zone.

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 3>They're playing soft coverage, and they're really hoping to keep

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 3>the top on it right and not let Tyreek and

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Wattle hit those big plays down the field and

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 3>make the Dolphins march down the field. But then in

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.959
<v Speaker 3>other weeks they'll come out in and they'll play man

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 3>the entire game, right, It just depends on who they're

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 3>playing and what the opponent goes up against. They have

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 3>one of the most comprehensive playbooks and rollodexes of things

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 3>that they can pull in the NFL, and I think

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 3>that that's what makes their defense so much fun to

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 3>watch and to break down, is they have everything in

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 3>their bag. Like they have post safety, they have man

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 3>they have zone, they have too high, they have blitz

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 3>like they can pretty much make it work with anything

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 3>and anywhere at any time, and that makes them really

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 3>fun and unpredictable. That's really going to be a big

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 3>thing for them this year in terms of the players

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 3>getting into sort of the individual players is unpredictability or

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 3>just spinning the dial on quarterbacks. The one big loss

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 3>that they had defensively, they only lost one starter, but

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>it was Devin mccordy and he retired after thirteen seasons

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 3>with the Patriots. Obviously a massive, massive loss just in

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 3>all walks like leadership. Communication on and off the field

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the leadership was huge with Devin, and

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 3>he's obviously played that role better than just about anybody

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I think you know in the last ten years. He's

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 3>one of the better free safeties in the NFL. So

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.399
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna be a big, big shoes to fill there.

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 3>But I think what they're gonna do is really mix

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 3>and match and change up the look for quarterbacks with

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Kyle Dugger, Adrian Phillips, Tabrill Peppers, Joshua Bledsoe had a

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 3>strong camp in mini camp, and then also Jalen Mills

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 3>is transitioning to a more slot safety hybrid type of

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 3>role versus outside corner now that they have Christian Gonzales.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 3>So their secondary, even without Jack Jones, who we can

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 3>talk about if you want, goes eight, nine to ten

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.919
<v Speaker 3>deep in the back end of guys that can play

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 3>at an NFL level. And then their front is exceptionally

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 3>good as well, with Matthew, Judon Barmore, Dietrich Wise and

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Josh Uch coming off the other edge. They have a

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 3>pass rush that was third in the last year in

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 3>pressure rate, near the top of the league in sacks,

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 3>so they can get after the quarterback. They're going to

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 3>be sound in the back end in terms of coaching

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 3>and how they structurally set up. And now they are

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 3>some couple of rookies too that I think really have

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people here optimistic about maybe putting them

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 3>over the top, because I think the one thing about

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 3>their defense, Travis, is that they're a little bit of

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 3>a paper tiger. Sometimes they absolutely dominate backup quarterbacks bad offenses,

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 3>like if you come into New England with Skyler Thompson,

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 3>like you're not scoring a very many points. But when

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 3>they go up against Josh Allen, when they go up

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 3>against Patrick Mahomes, when they go up against the great

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.879
<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks in this league, those guys can score on them

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 3>and have scored on them. Allen's really kind of figured

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 3>them out over the last couple of years. Lamar put

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 3>up thirty seven points on them earlier in the year

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 3>last year. So can they be a defense that doesn't

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 3>just dominate backups and bad comp petition, but can also

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 3>control the game against elite offenses? I think is gonna

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.320
<v Speaker 3>be the next step for the defense? Does that exist?

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Like does that defense exist in the

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 3>league anymore? I don't know, But if it does, then

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 3>maybe the Patriots can take that next step.

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a great point.

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because every time I do a Dolphins

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Patriots preview, I'm like, you're gonna get eight possessions on

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>offense for either team here, and just see how many

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.439
<v Speaker 1>points you can get out of those, because, like you mentioned,

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they do a good job of keeping the top on

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the defense, or at least against this Dolphins offense, And

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.280
<v Speaker 1>it just seems like it's always a twenty to fourteen

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 1>or a twenty three.

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 2>To seventeen type of game.

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Get we match up with the y'all, and then you

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>know John Jones comes back this year as well. Jonathan

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Jones and his matchups on Tyreek Hill, He's gotta be

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the best cornerbacks to ever cover Tyreek Kill.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, he seems to have his number in

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that regard, So it's always a fun matchup. There a

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>couple more names we didn't really discuss the Patriots added

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this offseason, Riley Reeve, Juju Smith, Schuster. You mentioned Mike

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 1>get Sick he as well to go on with Jabrill Peppers.

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you mentioned him as well. So fun matchups

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>this year. Every game this division is gonna be fun.

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I think the Dolphins will face the Paige. It's like

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned week two and then again back in Week

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 1>eight down here in South Florida. Let's go ahead and

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>take our last break right there and come back on

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the other side, and we'll finally get to the Miami

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins here with my guest today, Evan Lazar. Draft Time Podcast,

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>All right, Evan, you were as comprehensive as can be

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>there talking all things New England Patriots. Didn't really have

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>to ask you fall us, because you pretty much nailed

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>down everything I wanted to ask you in each of

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>your answers, So we'll kind of go ahead and spin

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 1>this thing forward here to the home team here on

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the Drive Time podcast and one of your all biggest

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>rivals in the Miami Dolphins, And I just kind of

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>want to hear your perspective on the Dolphins offseason, their

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>outlook heading into the year because I have like three

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>things I'm focusing on for how they can get better

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and improve upon the nine win season a year ago.

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>But I definitely want to hear in a punt's perspective

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>on this Dolphins twenty twenty three operation.

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the big thing for Miami, besides two

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 3>his health, which goes without saying, is just how does

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Mike McDaniel adjust to some of the things that defenses

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 3>were doing to them later in the year when they

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 3>came out And I know that to his injury played

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 3>a big role in why their offense wasn't quite as

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 3>efficient towards the end of the year as it was

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 3>in the beginning of the year, but they came out

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 3>as probably the best offense in football from like an

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 3>EPA perspective and then it kind of started to really

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 3>tail off. And then when Tua got hurt, a nose

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 3>dives and is that simply the quarterback getting hurt? Is

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 3>it schematically that the defenses were seeing more things on

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.399
<v Speaker 3>tape from McDaniel and started to catch up to him.

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 3>I know the Chargers kind of put a blueprint out

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 3>there about how to handle the motion and the different

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 3>things that they do pre snap with Tyreek Hill. You

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 3>know what point do they adjust and do they make

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 3>some different things happen. I know with Sean McVay, he

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 3>was able to take the Patriots Super Bowl as a

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 3>learning experience and be a little bit more multiple in

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 3>the run game and throw some different things at defenses

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 3>to be a little bit more unpredictable, and then they

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:02.479
<v Speaker 3>win a Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford. So what's What's

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:07.240
<v Speaker 3>that one of those Dolphins decide internally was the real

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 3>reason why their offense went from where it was at

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 3>the beginning for six weeks of the season to where

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 3>it was at the end of the year. If they

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 3>chalk it up to just Tua getting hurt, then I

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 3>can totally understand that, and it's probably a valid reason.

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 3>But I'm curious to get your opinion on do you

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 3>feel like that was all it was, or you know,

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 3>is it something else, because I still feel like this

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 3>team needs to win with the offense at the end

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 3>of the day, especially with the division and schedules and

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 3>things like that.

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And you talk about the Chargers game and the Niners game,

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of the two that seemed to tilt the

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>offense a little bit back more towards the middle of

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the pack and the way they produced and obviously the

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 1>completion percentage went way down. The Chargers game was just

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the biggest blip on the radar in

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>terms of not really being productive at all.

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 2>But what was funny about both those games.

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>In the Niners game, I thought I thought Tua was

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>better than the Charger game in the Nighter game with

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>how you missed a couple of throws that were schemed

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>open for him and just didn't quite get him on target.

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>But even in those games they struggled, they still had

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the explosive plays.

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 2>You had the.

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Crazy Tyreek fumble return for a touchdown, which I don't

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>count that as like something you can count on, but

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the fifty six yard touchdown pass to him in that

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>game and then a forty five yard touchdown pass to

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>him in the Niners game. To me, it comes down

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to being more efficient in the short yardage and not

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>being so I guess, you know, negligent in the pre

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>snap operation because there was way too many instances where

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>that the play got in late. They were up against

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a late play clock, They had false starts, offensive penalties

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that set them back behind the chains. If they can

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>just get those things fixed, I think they could be

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>more efficient, keep the ball for longer, and then you

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 1>have not just an explosive play offense, but hopefully also

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a ball control offense to go along with that too.

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 1>So it's really fascinating, man. I can't wait to see

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>what it looks like this year. Like you mentioned how

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>McDaniel justin how he changes.

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Things, does he run the ball more?

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>He does say he regretted not running the ball as

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>much as he did, as he didn't do last year.

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.439
<v Speaker 1>But I also say, like you've got Tyreek kill jaylan Walla,

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>why would you not just throw the balls then every

0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>single play?

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's an interesting there.

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 1>But we're all finished this Dolphins discussion with you on

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 1>is the defense and I respect your opinion so much

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.439
<v Speaker 1>on x's and o's and sitting the all twenty two, Evan,

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>is the Vic Fangio impact because you mentioned the offense

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>typically does win the day. In the NFL, the best

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>offense is find a way to get to the big game.

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 2>With the Chiefs and the Eagles a year ago.

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And Eagles defense is pretty good too, but offensively those

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>teams could fly out role. But I'm curious how you

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>think Vic Fangio can come back off a year away

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>from the game and put his fingerprints on this defense

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden has Jalen Ramsey to go

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>along with Xavi and Howard and Javon Holland and Christian

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Wilkins and Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb.

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a who's who of star players out there.

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Can he get them going right away? Do you think.

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.360
<v Speaker 3>It's to me? And I look, I this might be

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a hot take, but I think

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the biggest addition to the AFC East is Big Fangio.

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 3>And I know Aaron Rodgers is going to be the

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 3>one that gets all the headlines, but Vic Fangios terrifies

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 3>me because I just feel like he's going to get

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 3>that Dolphins defense to the point where they aren't just

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of star players with big names and actually

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 3>aren't playing as a unit as one. And I know

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 3>under the Flores they had really good stretches, but really

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 3>I felt like what happened with that was like the

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 3>zero Blitch package just took people by surprise, and they

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 3>didn't exactly hadn't really seen something as exotic and as

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 3>different as that, and a coach that was willing to

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 3>dial up the pressure as consistently as the boyer you know,

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Flores Era, if you will, were able to do. And

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 3>then last year I was just stunned by even against

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 3>the Patriots, who, let's face it, tray they stunk offensively

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 3>last year. But some of the decisions that the Dolphins

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 3>made on defense from a schematic perspective and like a

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 3>game plan perspective, I'm mainly talking about the second game

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 3>up here in New England. They were playing man to

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 3>man and just allowing the Patriots to single up you know,

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Hunter Henry and some of their other guys that could

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 3>actually get open against man coverage and making the picture

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 3>pretty clear for mac Jones. They were really predictable in

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 3>that game, and that was the only reason why the

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Patriots were able to move the ball a little bit

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:11.720
<v Speaker 3>offensively against them, because it certainly wasn't the Patriots master

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 3>game plan or or they're great play calling that was

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 3>allowing them to do it. So I was shocked how

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:19.919
<v Speaker 3>much you know, man blitz they played in that game

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 3>and just straight cover one they played against the Patriots,

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.919
<v Speaker 3>because that was the one thing the Patriots could could

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 3>do was if you're gonna man up against us, we're

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna give our skill guys a chance to make plays

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 3>down the field. And we feel pretty good about it.

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 3>It was defenses that like Fangio's that play you know,

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 3>too high palms, like these different coverages that Fangio has

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 3>really popularized across the league. Now that that give the

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Patriots a ton of problems, like deciphering the difference between

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, Cover six and quarters and three and Fangio's

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 3>system is not easy, Like it's something that really starts

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 3>to blend together. So I'm concerned as a Patriot fan

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 3>about Fangio being in the division because you look at

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 3>the talent is clearly there, right, you got Chubb, you

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 3>got you know, Jalen Phillips, you got Christian Wilkins, you

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 3>got all the guys in the secondary. Like this is

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 3>a really, really talented defense, and they just haven't necessarily

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 3>been put in the best positions to succeed always. And

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 3>the last thing I just remembered about that second matchup,

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 3>they were down to like their like fifth or six

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 3>cornerbacks right like it was like Keon Crossing and like

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 3>some practice squad guys playing and they were still playing

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 3>man to man against the Patriots. So they're not going

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.919
<v Speaker 3>to do that this time this year. You know, they'll

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:37.919
<v Speaker 3>be well coached and they'll be ready to go.

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>A lot of long past interferences last year that really

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of extended drives and input points on the board,

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Like you mentioned, the attrition of the cornerback spot was

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 1>it was clearly a focus this off season going and

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>getting Jalen Ramsey and then turning around spending your first

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 1>draft pick on Cam Smith, another cornerback that can play

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>both inside and outside there as well. So I think

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty well intent on not letting that happen again

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>this year. And you know, it's kind of funny because

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned some of those Patriots defenses in the paper

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Element. I kind of thought the same thing was

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.800
<v Speaker 1>true of some of those Dolphins teams from yesteryear. They

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>would really get after backup quarterbacks when you see Patrick

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes or Josh Allen, and they would go for thirty

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>five to forty points on you. So hopefully, hopefully no

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 1>more of that going into the future.

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Here.

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Really good stuff there, Evan. I agree with you on

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty much everything you said. Gonna be a fun battle

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.359
<v Speaker 1>here in the AFC East. Let's go ahead and finish

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>up with this real quick and just real briefly on

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>each of these categories. Want to get your take. We've

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>done this for all eight divisions now talking about the

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>division superlatives, the best players in the division by these categories,

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and we start this one to me is obvious. I'll

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and throw it to anyways, who do you

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>think is a top quarterback in the AFC East in

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three?

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Still Josh Allen to me, I think that he's still

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 3>the best and most dangerous quarterback until I see Aaron

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Rodgers play like he did a couple of years ago

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 3>at an MVP level. I still would give it to

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen. But We talked about it a little bit

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 3>in the Buffalo. I know it's supposed to be a

0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 3>quick answer. That's not really my thing, man. Yeah, we

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 3>talked about a little bit with Buffalo. But his superpower

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 3>is his athleticism and his ability to extend plays and

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 3>make things happen in like that playground back, you know,

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 3>backyard football style. If they want him to play more

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 3>in structure to preserve him, I wonder if that is

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 3>making him play too left handed. And at what point

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 3>do you have to just say this is our guy, like,

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 3>this is what he does, this is what he's good at.

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 3>So I would put Dak caveat on Josh Allen, but

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I still think he's the best quarterback in the division.

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>You go back and watch the Week three game last

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 1>year against Miami when he was forced to take the

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>short stuff all game long. You could just see a

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>bubbling and prickolating in terms of how frustrated he was

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>by doing that and not being able to get off

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>those those big plays and scramble plays that he makes

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>so routinely so far this point of his career. But

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that's that's my pick as well, Josh Allen, until someone

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>else proves otherwise, how about your top player on offense

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that's not a quarterback in the AFC East.

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm going Tyreek Hill. I think Tyreek Hill. And look

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.720
<v Speaker 3>the Patriots. He mentioned it with John Jones. I always

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 3>ask John Jones, like, how do you cover Tyreek Hill

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:08.840
<v Speaker 3>better than anybody else? And his response is always just

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 3>run really fast, Like just just run fast. He's like,

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 3>there's no like secret to it. It's just with him,

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 3>it's not about building up speed, it's not about like

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 3>pacing out the route. It's you need to get on

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 3>your horse instantaneously. And I don't think if there's anybody

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 3>else and maybe in all of football that's as dangerous

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 3>or as scary on a football field as Tyree Kill

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 3>because he can just house it from anywhere at any

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 3>time really in any type of route. Like he can

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 3>take a slant, he can take a drag and go

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 3>eighty yards, or it can beat you over the top

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.440
<v Speaker 3>eighty yards to the house. So I'm going Tyreek Hill high.

0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I still think he's I guess maybe DeVante Adams like

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 3>has a case, is the best receiver in football, but

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I would definitely say Tyreek Hill has got a case.

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>We've had that We've heard that a few times in

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the podcast and would definitely appreciate the love for our

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>guy down here and just the way he's so detailed

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in his routes who I think really gets underrated in

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 1>terms of how he can create separation and continue and

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I should say finish each route because some guys can

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of cut those things off sometimes, but he is

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>detailed to the to the tea and gets that stuff executed.

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:13.799
<v Speaker 1>So the next one here, I think, is where you

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of options. I'm curious to hear where

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you go. I think pretty much every team in the

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 1>division could put someone forth and say this might be

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the best player, but the best defensive player in the

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 1>AFC East.

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Who who you taking this year?

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh man?

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 2>A tough one.

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 3>That is a tough one. So the way I see it,

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 3>I guess, you know, based off of last year and

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.319
<v Speaker 3>solely just off of last year, I'd probably give it

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 3>to Quentin Williams at the moment, But I don't know

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 3>if you're looking at it, you know, it all depends

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 3>on how you look at it, I guess, but I

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 3>think just strictly based off of who was the best

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 3>player last year defensively in the division. I'd probably give

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 3>it to Quentin Williams, but each team has a guy

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 3>that could dominate, Like you said that that has a

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 3>really good case.

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably my pick two. If I want to

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>go Homer, i'd probably go one of our guys down.

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Christian Wilkins had a hell of a year.

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I you know the guy that I want to float

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that I think is going to have a monster year

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>this year, Stealan Phillips. He's really been coming on and

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 1>was really good in terms of pressure. The quarterback just

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>had so many pressures where it was like the balls

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>out in two point three seconds, you know, Tom Brady

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 1>style for the Patriots there for so long. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my dark horse pick to maybe be the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to that question next year. But I think Quinn

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Williams right now might be my pick as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I think this one's pretty obvious as well. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go away from the goat the legend that

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 1>he is. But the top coach in the AFC is

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 1>just for posterity, Evan.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it depends on who you ask up here

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 3>right now. Yeah, He's It's funny because I think that

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 3>there would be probably twenty nine teams that would fire

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 3>their coach immediately and hire Bill Belichick if he became available.

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 3>But yet here in New England it's a what have

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.760
<v Speaker 3>you done for me lately? Town? And at some point

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's yet, but if this isn't start

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:00.080
<v Speaker 3>to turn around, and based off of the decisions I

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 3>really think that Belichick made last year with the coaching

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 3>staff has really left a sour taste in people's mouths.

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 3>And Brady leaving was sort of strike one, and they

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 3>were like willing to give him a little bit of

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 3>a leash to say, Okay, like the greatest coach of

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:17.440
<v Speaker 3>all time, we're not going to pick you over a

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 3>player that only has two more years left. But now

0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 3>that they did what they did last year with the

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:28.439
<v Speaker 3>coaching staff, his his good favor is starting to run

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit thin in New England. I don't think

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 3>it's quite at hot seat territory yet, but it's certainly

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 3>at like warm warm butt season in New England. But

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 3>it's still Bill Belichick. I'd still give it to him,

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 3>although I will say that I think Sean McDermott is

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 3>a really good coach as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my pick as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have again, just like the rest of

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the division in general, I think you have four really

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>good coaches here that I think are going to be

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 1>here for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>So great stuff there, Evan.

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>We got to finish this one too, which I'm going

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to be a homer and take the Dolphins. I'm just

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>going to say it right now, but give me your

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<v Speaker 1>pick for AFCAS champion this year.

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna just I'm gonna play it safe and say Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 3>I still think that they're the best team in the

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 3>division until proven otherwise. I always sort of operate under that.

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 3>But I think what's cool about the division and I

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:18.759
<v Speaker 3>don't know if i'd necessarily include the Patriots yet, but

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I do think that three out of the four teams

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 3>have a real case to win the division. And talk

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 3>to me in like you know, Halloween about the Patriots, right, like,

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 3>maybe they show me something in the first half of

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.920
<v Speaker 3>the season, because I do think they have the talent

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 3>in the two phases of the game, three phases of

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:37.960
<v Speaker 3>the game. You want to include special teams in the

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 3>coaching to be competitive in the division, especially if one

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:45.759
<v Speaker 3>star receiver decides to come here. So I think that

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 3>they have the chance to be in that mix. But

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.319
<v Speaker 3>right now, I'd say it's a three horse race and

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I'll give it to Buffalo. But if you told me

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.960
<v Speaker 3>in January that you know, the Jets or the Dolphins

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:00.919
<v Speaker 3>won the division, I wouldn't be totally shocked either.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna make for a very, very fun season this year.

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<v Speaker 1>At Easy Lazarre on Twitter, Evan Lazar, Patriots dot Com

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Catch twenty two podcasts. Evan, appreciate your time today, man.

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to give you a chance for to go

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>ahead and promote what you're working on over the summer.

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're going on vacation. That's why I'm getting all

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>these prev podcasts cranked out right now so I can

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>play them out over the summer. So I'm going back

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:19.479
<v Speaker 1>home for a couple of weeks, I'm not even gonna

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>turn on a computer. What are you looking forward to

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>doing the summer and what are you working on there

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>at Patriots dot com.

0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we will have vacations.

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:29.359
<v Speaker 3>My my co worker is on vacation for the next

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks and then I go on vacation. So

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 3>we're kind of staggering them a little bit. But we

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:36.839
<v Speaker 3>have some things going on on Patriots dot Com. We'll

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 3>do you know, roster projections, camp preview, summer previews, sort

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 3>of roster reset versions of those, and then before you

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 3>know it, as you know, Travin will be at training

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.239
<v Speaker 3>camp in a month and it'll be to you know,

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:53.959
<v Speaker 3>go time. So we still do the podcasts, Catch twenty

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.320
<v Speaker 3>twos once a week, Patriots Unfiltered twice a week. Even

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 3>in the dead season here of the off season, we

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 3>still do the pods and the radio shows and things

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 3>like that, So we'll still have you covered the Patriots.

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I keep kind of hinting at, you know, in

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:10.680
<v Speaker 3>the DeAndre Hopkins sweepstakes, there's some hotfield stuff going on

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:12.879
<v Speaker 3>with Jack Jones that we're gonna be covering and things

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:15.760
<v Speaker 3>like that as well. So there's never a dull moment.

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.280
<v Speaker 3>They're always in the news somehow, so we'll have you covered.

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Even the six week break of the NFL that

0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>we get every year is like still still talking football, man.

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I this is my time of year to kind of

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 1>go back and watch them tape and look at you know,

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>to kind of get ready for the season and just

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.760
<v Speaker 1>see what I might expect for the upcoming NFL season.

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 2>So Evan, you.

0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Said it all, man, appreciate your time today and go

0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>find that beach somewhere man and kick those feet up.

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you as well.

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Thanks Evan.

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And what he doesn't know, or if he does know

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 1>but maybe didn't realize there is I live twenty five

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 1>minutes from the beach.

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I go there all the time. My daughter loves the beach.

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, that's gonna be it for the AFC East preview.

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:51.239
<v Speaker 2>We have one more of these to do.

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>The NFC East will be on Thursday, and then we're

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be back to five days a week and

0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:59.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe even six days depending on how the schedule works

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 1>out for training in preseason games. But we have arrived, man,

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the season is here.

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna be.

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Doing positional previews and rolling out some more of the

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 1>walking talks the next couple of weeks and then in

0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:11.919
<v Speaker 1>what two weeks from now or so, give or take

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 1>training camp, which you know where to go for the

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>best reporting on Miami Dolphins training camp right here on

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the Draft Time podcast, also on Twitter at Winkle NFL

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:24.440
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0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>coming your way this summer this fall in the meantime,

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:28.880
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