WEBVTT - AFC Over/Under Wins: Best Bets (Ep. 3)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>the Betting Pros NFL podcast, brought to you by play MGM.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can find me on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at Dan Harris Adi. If you listen to our

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<v Speaker 1>two shows last week, you now should feel pretty confident

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<v Speaker 1>about the sports betting landscape and some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>over unders for the NFC. Well, today we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tie a little bow on the season long over unders

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<v Speaker 1>by breaking down the AFC. And with me to do

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<v Speaker 1>that is Jason Logan, the senior managing editor for Covers.

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<v Speaker 1>He and everyone there provides outstanding information across the sports

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<v Speaker 1>betting industry, and you can find him on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 1>Covers j LO. Jason, thanks so much for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Not too much. I got some in laws in town,

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<v Speaker 2>so my host is full of children run around and

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<v Speaker 2>screaming and trying to get some work done around that,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that this is going to be the I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping this is going to be the first podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>I do where my kids don't somehow inter rup me

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<v Speaker 1>because they basically they have like a sixth sense or

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<v Speaker 1>something about whenever I'm podcasting and they immediately breaking them office.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely I was before we went on here, I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing television with a t with the station in San

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<v Speaker 2>Diego and my son just comes marching down the stairs

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<v Speaker 2>with NERF gun and like laser scope eye things on. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you gotta go better.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's some good TV. I'd watch that. Actually, if

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<v Speaker 1>that I was just waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just waiting to catch a NERF gun into

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<v Speaker 2>the ear.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Well, Look, before we get started, I'm sure most

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<v Speaker 1>people listening probably have the same question I do, which

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<v Speaker 1>is how many angry dms have you gotten from Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Lopez about your use of j LO and your Twitter handle,

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean it's got to be like five or

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<v Speaker 1>six at this point, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, not much from him. A lot from Alex Rodriguez. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot from Alex Rodriguez, but not not not any

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<v Speaker 2>from from the actual.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well that's good to know, I guess. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's good for you because Frank O'harris he emails

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<v Speaker 1>me like every day pissed off about the my Twitter handles.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, you're a big name in the sports betting industry.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into the AFC over unders. I

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping you can kind of tell everybody a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about yourself, how you got into focusing on sports,

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<v Speaker 1>beending what exactly you do over it covers your eight

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<v Speaker 1>favorite foods, whatever you got.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm a tacos guy, so all right, any type

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<v Speaker 2>of taco I'm in, softer, hard, doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I started with covers back in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 2>actually right before that Eagles Patriot super Bowl, So I

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<v Speaker 2>was somewhat thrown into the fire. I started as what

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<v Speaker 2>was called a content editor, so we did shift work,

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<v Speaker 2>so we worked like a twelve hour day, nine in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning till nine at night, and then you'd flip

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<v Speaker 2>it and work nine at nights and nine in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a twenty four hour crew at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then from there I went on and became a

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<v Speaker 2>full time writer covered college basketball and baseball in the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and then went on to be an associate editor and

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<v Speaker 2>then eventually took over to the department. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in a nutshell, I kind of manage all things content

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<v Speaker 2>from the creative side. It could be articles, it could

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<v Speaker 2>be our video products and podcasts, our social output as

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<v Speaker 2>well too, So I kind of have my fingers in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those pies as well. As you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked with our product teams and our development teams,

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<v Speaker 2>sales and marketing teams, so lots of meetings every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I do, when I do get to sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and bang out some content around sports betting, it's

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<v Speaker 2>therapeutic for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your site is great. I've been. I've been checking

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<v Speaker 1>it out basically all week. They've got a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff over there, basically sports betting from every angle, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's really great to check out. I don't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to dig too. Do you've

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<v Speaker 1>been to ask you about your age or anything? But

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<v Speaker 1>is this something that legitimately like did you start when

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<v Speaker 1>you were a young guy, did you have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other profession or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, No, I started with covers. I was probably I

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<v Speaker 2>was a year removed from school thinking of going back

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<v Speaker 2>to school. But in terms of sports betting, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I I mean Canada. I'm located in Canada and we

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<v Speaker 2>have a lottery system sports betting. It's not fantastic. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of parlays and skewed odds that returns aren't

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<v Speaker 2>what they should be. But you know, eighteen eighteen year old,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know the ins and outs and that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a lot of basketball and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>baseball at that time, and then I got the job

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<v Speaker 2>with Covers and then just kind of learned the ins

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<v Speaker 2>and outs of sports betting and you know, what is

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<v Speaker 2>important what isn't important in terms of sports betting knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>versus sports knowledge, versus fantasy knowledge, because there's all other

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a different scope in which you need

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<v Speaker 2>to view sports through. You know, people say they're a

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<v Speaker 2>big sports fan until they kind of step into the

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<v Speaker 2>sports betting world and there's so many angles that you

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think of. And even to this day, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I've been with Covers for almost fourteen years here

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<v Speaker 2>and still learning things every day every day. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's kind of my kind of progression through sports bet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great point that you bring up, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about a little bit last week with Dustin Goucher,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a journalist who covers sort of the evolving sports

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<v Speaker 1>betting landscape in the United States. Yeah, no, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Dustin, Yeah, Dustin, Dustin's great, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing is that, you know, people in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, it's just suddenly this whirlwind, right, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a Supreme Court decision that overturns sort of a law

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<v Speaker 1>that says no, they can legalize sports betting, and now

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<v Speaker 1>nobody really knows sort of what to do. Everybody just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wants to run out and say, great, I

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<v Speaker 1>can bet to the extent their state has legalized it.

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<v Speaker 1>And people don't really fully understand kind of what goes

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<v Speaker 1>into it. And so, you know, that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>we want to do today and here at this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is to kind of give people a little more guidance

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<v Speaker 1>as to how to do that. So here's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do today. We're going to go division by

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<v Speaker 1>division in the AFC and talk about the over unders

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<v Speaker 1>for every team in each division. We'll start with the East,

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<v Speaker 1>then the North, the South, and then the West. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be using the consensus over unders from

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<v Speaker 1>bettingpros dot com, which is basically the aggregate of available

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<v Speaker 1>odds in the market, and we'll talk about any that

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<v Speaker 1>we like or we don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>Has that sound yeah, that sounds great?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good, But before we get into it, you

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<v Speaker 1>risk free wager. All right, let's start with the East here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to just list the over unders for

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<v Speaker 1>each team and then you can basically tell me which one,

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<v Speaker 1>if any, stand out to you as a good bet.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bills are over under at six and a half wins,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins are at five, the Patriots are at eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Jets are at seven and a half. So

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<v Speaker 1>do any of them stand out to you as particularly

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<v Speaker 1>good value?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I've got two season win total kind of

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<v Speaker 2>picks that this. I've already previewed the AFC East and

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<v Speaker 2>one of my articles here you can find that on covers.

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<v Speaker 2>And surprisingly enough, the best over win total bet that

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was there in the AFC East was

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<v Speaker 2>the Miami Dolphins. I know, clutch the Pearls clutch the

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<v Speaker 2>Pearls four and a half four is where I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>some of these ones. The AFCAS really isn't that tough

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<v Speaker 2>a division, and you have the Patriots and then you

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<v Speaker 2>have everyone else. And Miami really did overachieve last year.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the seven wins. They ranked as the luckiest

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<v Speaker 2>team if you saw them play. They scored a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of big plays on special teams, on defense, on offense,

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<v Speaker 2>just a lot of kind of fluky plays. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>get the same soft schedule that they had last year,

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<v Speaker 2>but because they played this weaker division, I could see

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<v Speaker 2>them stealing at least two or three divisional wins here,

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<v Speaker 2>picking up a couple victories, and non conference play, they

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<v Speaker 2>play the Giants, they host the Redskins. Those are two

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<v Speaker 2>weaker teams, and then they have this late season game

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<v Speaker 2>against Cincinnati a week sixteen. That's going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>all or nothing game right there. I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to come down to. It's more a play

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<v Speaker 2>against the rest of the AFC East than a play

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<v Speaker 2>on the Dolphins. And I'm just asking them to be terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>not horrific, just terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I think the big point is at five,

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<v Speaker 1>which is at the consensus over under. That's the lowest

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<v Speaker 1>over under that's available in the game right now, at

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<v Speaker 1>least on the consensus over unders. Yeah, a couple of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen the Dolphins between four four and a half five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, And look for me, I personally, I

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<v Speaker 1>had no feel for that bet because there's just so

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<v Speaker 1>many questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at last year and that's fine, but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Gase was the head coach. You've got new quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>with Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen. We don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>what Brian Floor is going to be as a head coach, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's already driving us nuts with the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Klin Blage and Kenyan Drake, although Drake of course got

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<v Speaker 1>injured and is in a walking boot right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>the defense is largely the same which was kind of mediocre,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're probably going to switch to a different system.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I agree that if I was forced

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<v Speaker 1>to choose one, I would go over, But I had

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<v Speaker 1>just little feel for it because I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of question marks surrounding what the team's

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<v Speaker 1>going to look like this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, And the Dolphins always have those games too,

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<v Speaker 2>where they surprise you all of a sudden, they come

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere. They've they've played the Patriots very at.

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<v Speaker 1>Home at home. The Patriots always seemed to struggle in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so, I mean if they can, all they

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<v Speaker 2>need to do is just steal a couple extra games

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll have people sweating. I think that game against

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati a week sixteen is going to be the be

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<v Speaker 2>the tiebreaker for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, certainly, Cincinnati is a team that you look at

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<v Speaker 1>on the schedule and you get pretty excited about if

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<v Speaker 1>you're an imposing team. For me, the game that stuck

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<v Speaker 1>out with the I'm sorry, the team at the that

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<v Speaker 1>stuck out for me where the Bills at six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, and I like the over here. Now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not anything where I think they're going to win ten

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<v Speaker 1>games or anything like that, but they strike me as

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<v Speaker 1>much more of a five hundred team. There's still a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of question marks, you know, around them. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a great pass rush. It's really Jerry Hughes and

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<v Speaker 1>not much else. There are major accurate accuracy concerns with

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen, and you know he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the type of Lamar Jackson quarterback because

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<v Speaker 1>although he had a ton of rushing yards, they were

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<v Speaker 1>mostly scrambles last year. You know, it's not as if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to do that system that they did and

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to do in Baltimore. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me is that they've they've just made a few

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<v Speaker 1>changes that I really like. They've added a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>their offensive line. It's not going to be an elite unit,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's going to be pretty pretty improved.

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<v Speaker 1>The run games should do enough. They've you know, nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>outstanding there, but they've got a lot of depth with

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<v Speaker 1>Leashau McCoy and Frank Gore and Devin Singletary and tj

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<v Speaker 1>Yeldin if he makes the team. They added John Brown,

0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.200
<v Speaker 1>so now they have another deep threat and although Josh

0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Allen is not accurate whatsoever, he can throw the deep

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<v Speaker 1>ball with pretty much the best of them. And with

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<v Speaker 1>their defense. Look, they don't have a great pass rush,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're solid at linebacker. They've got Tredavius White. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me, you mentioned the schedule. They won six games

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<v Speaker 1>last year and they open at the Jets, at the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>and home against the Bengals. They could easily be three

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<v Speaker 1>and oh after the first three games. They've got the

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<v Speaker 1>two games against Miami, They've got a home game against

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and late in the season. Buffalo is a really

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<v Speaker 1>tough place to play. You know that that crowd is crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be freezing, it's gonna be hostile. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're more like an eight win team. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the over at six and a half is really the

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<v Speaker 1>one bet that set out to me is good value.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say you're wrong. I'm gonna say you're wrong

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<v Speaker 2>that well. I'm going with the Bills. I'm going with

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills under I have fans and the Bills mafia

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm sure they're setting up the tables to like

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<v Speaker 2>power bomb me through the cycle pass. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>under here. Josh Allen was at his best, just like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, when he was running for his life. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what you want from you, young QB. This

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<v Speaker 2>rushing attack is terrible, I said, I said in my

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<v Speaker 2>preview they have. There's less tread on the tires of

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<v Speaker 2>this rushing attack than there isn't a Walmart shopping card.

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<v Speaker 2>You got. Sean McCoy Frank or maybe TJ. Yelden. They've

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<v Speaker 2>got the young kid out of what Florida Atlantic. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been all right there in his one, you know, preseason appearance.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned late season with the Bills and home might

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<v Speaker 2>not be an issue for them, but the back end

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<v Speaker 2>of this schedule is a bastard of a schedule. They

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<v Speaker 2>play five of their final eight games away from home,

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<v Speaker 2>and they struggled last year. They went two and six

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<v Speaker 2>as visitors last season. I like the defense, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's enough to make up for just a

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<v Speaker 2>lack of offense. And I look at their wide receivers

0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:50.720
<v Speaker 2>there too. They have What Brown and Cole Beasley. There's

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<v Speaker 2>there's no one there that really gets me excited. No

0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.120
<v Speaker 2>one there that that's it's it's not pushing me over.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Bills are overhyped. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a fade the public play here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go on, Yeah, the public is definitely in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of the Bills going over as am I and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look, I'm going to keep this podcast going.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's right off the bat where we're going up

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<v Speaker 1>against each other. And look, I agree the end the

0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.240
<v Speaker 1>end of the year schedule. Yes, they are on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of tough games towards the end,

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<v Speaker 1>at Dallas, at Pittsburgh, at the Patriots, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're at Miami as well, they're home against Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>They're home against the Jets. Those are certainly winnable games,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I mentioned the beginning of the year, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to be able to kind of make

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<v Speaker 1>a little run here, you know, at the Jets, at

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants, and home against the Bengals. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the What's funny is that is the one bet

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<v Speaker 1>in the East that I really felt good about, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be interested. You mentioned, you said maybe two that

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<v Speaker 1>you had another one other than the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Apid it was it was the Dolphins, and

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<v Speaker 2>then my and then it was my Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Under that, oh you are the worst. The podcast where

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna all right, well, let me ask. Obviously, neither

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<v Speaker 1>one of us feels particularly confident, but is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>you know on the Patriots that you're you're necessarily thinking that,

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<v Speaker 1>or the Jets or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I really like the Jets. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a great against the spread bet this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna be a great over bet this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Le'Veon Bell is the ultimate wild card, especially

0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.679
<v Speaker 2>when you look at things like third third down conversions.

0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Look how terrible the Jets were last year, and then

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<v Speaker 2>if you look what the Pittsburgh Steelers did when they

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<v Speaker 2>had Bell out there and he was that big target

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<v Speaker 2>on some of those third downs, they were fantastic. They're

0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.720
<v Speaker 2>converting converting third downs at like forty four and forty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent. I think it's going to keep the chain

0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:35.320
<v Speaker 2>moving for this for this Jets team. And I think

0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I like Sam Darnold in his second season. I like

0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.480
<v Speaker 2>their big Burley receiving corps when they're healthy too. I mean,

0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.200
<v Speaker 2>they've got some big bodies out there. And they did

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<v Speaker 2>did some improvement on the offensive line too. So I

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<v Speaker 2>really like the Jets offense. I don't know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>their season win Toal, what's what's their season Wintal? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you got?

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<v Speaker 1>Seven? Seven and a half?

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<v Speaker 2>Seven and a half. Yeah, I see them. I see

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<v Speaker 2>them as I kind of see them as a seven

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<v Speaker 2>and nineteen, which is which is which is a huge improvement.

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<v Speaker 2>That's three three more wins and what they have last year,

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<v Speaker 2>I see I see them as as kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>seven or nine team. I'm not I'm not jumping in.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a Jets fan, unfortunately, and if you gave them,

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<v Speaker 1>if you gave them a legitimate group of cornerbacks, if

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<v Speaker 1>you gave them anything out there, I would buy the

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<v Speaker 1>over without hesitation, you know, because I really like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like their front seven. I think everything you said

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<v Speaker 1>about Darnald is good. I feel good about Le'Veon Belle.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got depth at running back too, right with Trenton

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<v Speaker 1>Cannon and to Montgomery and Elijah Maguire. It's the cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>position is so thin that I mean, it's really something

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<v Speaker 1>where frankly, they get even one more injury and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know who necessarily is going to be out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Tremaine Johnson is already dealing with his injuries. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at their schedule, it kind of seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me seven and a half is exactly right. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be seven or it's going to be eight. I would

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<v Speaker 1>be really surprised if it's gonna be anything more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of the Jets, by the way, just because

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<v Speaker 1>we're on it. I do want to mention I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>play MGM earlier. They have a preposterous promotion right now

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<v Speaker 1>for Thursday's preseason game between the Jets and the Falcons

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<v Speaker 1>that I just want to mention. They have something called

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<v Speaker 1>an odds boost for new players, and it's really absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 1>If you place a one dollar money line wager on

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets to beat the Falcons in Thursday night preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get paid at one hundred to one odds.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Jets score a point, you got that. You

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<v Speaker 1>place a one dollar bet on the Jets to win,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if the Jets lose, you get one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>to one payout so long as they score a point,

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<v Speaker 1>that is nuts. And if that's not good enough for you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you place a one dollar money line wager on

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<v Speaker 1>either the Jets to beat the Falcons on Thursday or

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants to beat the Bears on Friday at a

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<v Speaker 1>standard odds price, and if either team wins, you win

0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred to one odds on your bet. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Jets scoring a point, you win one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>to one odds on your dollar. If the Jets are

0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Giants win, you get one hundred to one odds on

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<v Speaker 1>your dollars. This is for new players only, but here's

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<v Speaker 1>all you have to do. Download the play MGM Sports app,

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<v Speaker 1>MGM is going to be doing things like this often,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just another reason why you should be downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the app and using it anytime you're in New Jersey.

0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So let's just close shop really quickly. On the Patriots. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can analyze the Patriots like a

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<v Speaker 1>normal team because they're just the Patriots. They haven't finished

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<v Speaker 1>with fewer than eleven games, which is there over under

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<v Speaker 1>mark since two thousand and nine. I would view them

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<v Speaker 1>as probably about eleven without doing any real analysis because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think real analysis works with the Patriots because

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<v Speaker 1>they're just not normal. So I would stay far away

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<v Speaker 1>from this one. I don't know about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's one of these things. I always look

0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.640
<v Speaker 2>out for the Patriots to start slow in the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they'll go like two and two out of the

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<v Speaker 2>gate or one and one and three out of the gate,

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<v Speaker 2>or they'll drop two of their first three games and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone loses their mind and then the odds adjusts and

0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. But it's a bit of a different

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<v Speaker 2>season this year or no Gronk, a lot of new

0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.640
<v Speaker 2>faces in the receiving corps. So I want to see

0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 2>if Brady gets any snaps over the preseason. It was

0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.960
<v Speaker 2>weird last year. Last preseason he played a ton in

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<v Speaker 2>this preseason, he hasn't. I don't expect them to play

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<v Speaker 2>much at all, but he needs those reps with the

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<v Speaker 2>new wide receivers, and I think we're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy dose of Sony Michelle. I think I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see a lot more leaning on him, much

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<v Speaker 2>like they did through with the postseason last year. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, the Patriots. I think they just have

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<v Speaker 2>to make the playoffs. I think that's just their main focus.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care about kind of the final total, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as they make the playoffs and they get in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just you know, I look at their roster,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel particularly great about it without Gronk, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it doesn't matter, you know, I really,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like at the end, they're probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be eleven and five, so I'm personally not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go anywhere near them either, over undering, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was forced to do something, I'd probably just take the push.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where i'd be. All right, let's move on

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Let's move on to the AFC North. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Ravens at eight and a half. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals at five and a half, the Browns at

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<v Speaker 1>nine and a half, and the Steelers at nine. So

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<v Speaker 1>which one of those is your favorite? If any?

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<v Speaker 2>So I got two here that I do like. I

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<v Speaker 2>like the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Over you were just talking so much against them, man, No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I just said the Jets play Cincinnati in Week sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and that could be the game in which it decided

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<v Speaker 2>or not the Jets the Dolphins. The Dolphins play Sorry, yes,

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.520
<v Speaker 2>the Dolphins play them in Week sixteen. That could be

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<v Speaker 2>the deciding, sweated out game for those season win total betters.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say they were going to lose the game,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, all right, what do you got their season

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<v Speaker 2>win total? I've seen a six out there, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I've got it at five and a half. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like it even more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hell yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, they do find

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<v Speaker 2>themselves in one of the softer schedules here, twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>toughest schedule for Cincinnati. They didn't get much of a

0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:47.879
<v Speaker 2>test there in twenty eighteen, but they just had so

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.399
<v Speaker 2>many injuries up and down, especially on the offense. It

0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.240
<v Speaker 2>seemed like every week they were losing someone. And it

0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.199
<v Speaker 2>seems like already the injury bug is still by the name.

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.360
<v Speaker 2>AJ Green's gonna miss at least six weeks here. They

0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 2>started the season really strong last year too. They came out,

0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.280
<v Speaker 2>they won four of their first five, and then all

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.879
<v Speaker 2>those missing pieces started kind of biting him in the ass.

0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Lewis is finally gone. I think Taylor is a

0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.400
<v Speaker 2>nice breath of fresh air here. You know, I willy

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 2>do the same. Sean McVay magic. I don't know about that,

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.879
<v Speaker 2>but I really like Cincinnati's team on paper. I like

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.240
<v Speaker 2>this offense on paper. I love Tyler Boyd the way

0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:23.440
<v Speaker 2>he stepped up last year. And I love Joe Mixon.

0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I think Joe Mixon might be a sleeper. I have

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 2>him in one of my sleeper picks to win the

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.000
<v Speaker 2>rushing title this year. I think he's a fantastic running back.

0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:35.400
<v Speaker 2>They did some improving on the offensive line, and they

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 2>play other teams in this division really really tough.

0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and frankly, you look at the rest of their schedule,

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not terrible. I mean, they get Oakland, you mentioned Miami,

0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.320
<v Speaker 1>they get Arizona. I five and a half wins is low.

0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I just don't have a great feel for it because

0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I really don't know what it's going to look like

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.560
<v Speaker 1>with Taylor's system. And again, the Jonah Williams injury on

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line, I think really really hurts. So for me,

0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that was one where I just didn't have a great

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>feel for it. It feels like between five and six wins,

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 1>which is why it's at five and a half. So

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I really I didn't have a great sense. For me,

0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I really feel pretty confident in the Ravens under eight

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and a half, which probably means you're gonna be like, oh,

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel great about the Ravens over.

0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I agree, I agree with you on the

0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sold on the Ravens. You go ahead and

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 2>then I'll see if there's anything.

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and no problem. I mean, look to me, we

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.119
<v Speaker 1>know that the question marks on offense, because you know

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 1>they're basically they've got Lamar Jackson quarterback. You don't really

0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>know what it's gonna look like. I really think that

0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.119
<v Speaker 1>you need that defense to be top notch, and I

0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.000
<v Speaker 1>just don't really think that it's gonna be. I think

0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.399
<v Speaker 1>they've lost too many pieces with Zadarius Smith and Brent Urban, CJ.

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:40.959
<v Speaker 1>Mosley and Terrell Suggs. So I don't really know how

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the front seven is going to play. I don't really

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.879
<v Speaker 1>know if we're gonna be able to rely on Marlon

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Humphrey again being an elite cornerback, and Jimmy Smith and

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Cargan a little long in the tooth. So the defense,

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.639
<v Speaker 1>for me, it just doesn't really get me too excited.

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And with the offense, I know Greg Roman knows how

0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to run this system, but you know, you saw what

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 1>happened in that playoff game against the Chargers. It's just

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 1>not really a style that I think is necessarily something

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.719
<v Speaker 1>that can work over the long term. And you know,

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the NFC North, other than maybe the Bengals, is going

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to be tough, and then they get the NFC West,

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:14.719
<v Speaker 1>which means they've got to play in Seattle they've got

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to go up against the Rams, and they are one

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>of the teams that goes to play in Buffalo at

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season. So for me, I can

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 1>see a path to nine wins. If they won nine,

0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't fall down on the floor. I don't really

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.320
<v Speaker 1>see a path to ten wins, which means basically, to

0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:31.879
<v Speaker 1>lose the bet, you've got to basically thread that needle,

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and I would be willing to risk it. So Baltimore

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 1>under eight and a half is the one that really

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:37.400
<v Speaker 1>stuck out to me in the NFC North.

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're on the right track with Baltimore too,

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes too. I mean, they did have a good

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 2>defense last year, but a lot of it too was

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 2>because they ran the football and they chewed up the clock,

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 2>so that defense was not on the field that much

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 2>at all. At any time that they did have any weaknesses,

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 2>they weren't really exposed on it. Roman says he's completely

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 2>revamped in this playbook after what we saw the Bolts

0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 2>do to them running what seven defensive backs o quarter defense? Yeah,

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 2>and absolutely destroy them and just put a lot of

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 2>speed out there, and that snuffed out the running attack

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.640
<v Speaker 2>and kind of forced Jackson to pass the ball, which

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 2>he's not comfortable doing. I don't think you can win

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.919
<v Speaker 2>games by running the ball like that anymore, not in

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.680
<v Speaker 2>this NFL. And especially if they do find themselves, if

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>the defense is weak and they find themselves behind, I

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 2>don't think they have the firepower to catch up quickly.

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly it. I think in the end,

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 1>they're just not suited to score a ton of points

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>in any game, and I just don't see the defense

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 1>as being the type of defense that's going to be

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>able to allow them to kind of play up like that.

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Now Roman did it, of course with Kaepernick, but I

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like Kaepernick was I don't know. I don't know

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 1>about Jackson. I don't know exactly what to expect from

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>him necessarily as a passer. But you know Kaepernick, they

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>were able to run it in San Francisco, so maybe

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 1>he can.

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>But just but if you saw it's almost a similar

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.400
<v Speaker 2>situation that you saw from Colin Kaepernick in that year

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 2>with the forty nine ers, where he came in and

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 2>it was this completely new generational quarterback almost the same

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 2>way and last year came in and it was just

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 2>such a change in direction that it threw other defenses

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 2>off off their game and they you know, it finally

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 2>took until that Wildcard round game for the Chargers to

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>figure it out. Very kind of similar situations. Yeah, I

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 2>think with more tape on this on this offense now,

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 2>I think defenses are going to have a leg up

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just not confident in their passing game.

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I completely agree with you there. Okay, what about

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the Browns at nine and a half or the Steelers

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>at nine? Do you like or dislike either one of those?

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm going under Browns. The Browns have been the most

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>public team of the offseason. I mean, you look at

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 2>their divisional futures, you look at their Super Bowl lodge.

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 2>You look, I heard you hits, I heard you suck

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 2>your teeth on that one. You're like, no, it's it's uh.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think I think their numbers are a little

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 2>bit inflated because of that. You know, Baker Mayfield is

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 2>an exciting young quarterback. Yeah, the guy shotgun and beers

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 2>at Tribe games. It's awesome. Oh they got OBJ in there. Yeah,

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 2>that's awesome. However, he is still a second year quarterback,

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and I think as teams get more tape, on him.

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>You're going to see something catch up with him over time,

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and the expectations are are huge. Was the season win total.

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Of nine, I've got it nine and a half, nine and.

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.199
<v Speaker 2>A half, which is a massive jump. I think they

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 2>have a season win total what six or five or

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 2>something last year, which.

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 1>They were they were seven eight and one. There were

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>seven eight one. Yeah no, but they's season win total

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the original yeah, yess.

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Wins And that's a and that's a huge that's a

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 2>huge jump. And then also two teams like the Browns

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 2>aren't going to catch teams off guard anymore. People aren't

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna look at the Browns and say, oh, that's a

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 2>cupcake game and look past them. Especially when you got Mayfield.

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>You know he loves to get in front of the microphone.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 2>You got Obj, you know he's going to be running

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 2>his mouth. And then once they get Kareem Hunt out there,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be a lot of people that want to

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 2>smack that guy in the mouth as well. I think

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:42.879
<v Speaker 2>the Browns have a big target on their back. I

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>think people are going to come for them. I think

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 2>people are going to love to shut them up. And again,

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>this is this is a division where the rivalries will

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 2>run deep. The blood is is very, very very hot.

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't think that I'm not on the

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Browns over win total. I think they'll be I think

0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the be a good team. But I'm not jumping off.

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bit of a public inflated.

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, look, you did hear correctly, but I'm not sitting

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>here saying ooh, I love the Browns at over nine

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and a half, not not anywhere close. The Browns for

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>all the reasons that you said. They give me a

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>really really uneasy feeling. And it's basically when the public

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>buys in so much and gets so excited, I always

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 1>just naturally am sort of like, okay, well, you know,

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>let's take a step back here. But I look closely

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>at the team and it's really hard for me to

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of dislike them. And if I was forced to,

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>this is one I would stay away from. I would

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>not take the over, but if I was forced to,

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I probably would take the over. Again. I

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>get everything with Mayfield, but they've added old Ell Beckham Junior.

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>The offensive line has improved. The defense is going to

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 1>be really solid overall, you know.

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>See, the defense is going to be disruptive like they

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.239
<v Speaker 2>were last year. They're going to be disruptive. They'll get

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>their big sacks and they're going to get their takeaways

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, but they are going to give

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 2>up big plays. I don't think this defense is going

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to be an elite unit by any means.

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I'm probably a little more bullish on

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>them than New York. I don't think they're going to

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>be elite, but I think they're gonna be pretty solid.

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, upfront with Miles Garrett and Olivier

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Vernon and Sheldon Richardson, I love Denzel Award, Greedy Williams

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>is solid. They've got pretty solid linebackers. I'm gonna like it.

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I think they can really stay in most games. The

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing the NFC North, like you said, they just

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>beat the heck out of each other. That the AFC

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>North that keep saying NFC sorry, they beat the heck

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>out of each other. And so you could easily win

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 1>or lose any game that you see them play at

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>any given time. And I do think that you make

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a good point. I'm sure everybody's gonna hate Mayfield, and

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure anybody's gonna be gunning.

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>And here's another here's another thing to consider here, And

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>this may be a bit of a stretch, but these

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>guys play five of their first eight games on the

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 2>road in twenty nineteen. If they start dropping a few

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 2>wins here or a few games that they should have won,

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Guys like Beckham, guys like Mayfield, you know someone's gonna

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 2>say something stupid. All that confidence, all that swagger could

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 2>just get sucked out of the locker room pretty quickly.

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>So I think, I think, if I think, if Cleveland

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>can survive the first half of the season, get through

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>it without imploding with all those egos in the locker room,

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 2>and I hope they do it. I would love to

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 2>see Cleveland do well. I think there's such a fun

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 2>team right now. But that's one thing that I kind

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>of have my eye on there, is that they're gonna

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 2>be They're gonna be pushed right out of the gate,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 2>and let's see if they crumble underneath that pressure.

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 1>No, it is a fair point. Although again I mean

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>some of their road games. I mean at the Jets,

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>at Baltimore, Fine, I mean, of course, at San Francisco.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not it's not a murderer's road there

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>to start the season. But you're right, and they're probably

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>expected to win and not get off to a terrible start,

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>and if they do, you never know what's going to happen.

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>It's right, you drop a few games, you drop a

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>few games that you know, the Browns could be kind

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>of browning some people. They could be like, oh we

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>got this one, Oh we got this one, and then

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Browns end up smacking them in the mouth,

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 2>like last year with a lot of teams.

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>So now that's a fair point. If it's a fair point,

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>But if I had to, I personally would still take

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the over five. How about the Steelers at nine? Any

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>feeling on that one.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I do like the Steelers this year. I think the Steelers.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I like to pick the Steelers to win this division.

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, departure of Antonio Brown is playing

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>into this perception where the Steelers have maybe fallen off

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>in the AFC. North Cleveland looks great. Baltimore is the

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 2>reigning division champ. I think Roethlisberger is still an elite passer.

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>He led the league in the yards last year. I

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>think Smith Schuster is fantastic. I think James Washington is

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>going to be a fantastic wide receiver as well too.

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>James Connor proved that he's a suitable replacement there. Maybe

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>not the same runner as Le'Veon Bell, but a suitable

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>replacement for the running game. They have a fantastic defensive line.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 2>They tied for the league in sacks last year. There's

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of still very very good things with Pittsburgh.

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 2>They're very tough at home. It's tough to go into

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Hines Field and take a win from them. And I

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>think Roethlisberger and Tomlin both have a lot to prove

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 2>this season. I think Roethlisberger has a little bit of

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>a chip on his shoulder saying, you know what, Yeah,

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I lost my two for best playmakers, but here's what

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I can do. And then Tomlin. You know, Tomlin got

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>the courtesy extension before the preseason, but you know this

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>guy's still playing for his job too.

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, certainly motivation is going to be a factor. Roethlisberger

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>makes me a little nervous just of course his age,

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>but his efficiency historically has been really down without Brown.

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>But I agree, it's hard to doubt this team, right.

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>They're just very consistent. They do it pretty much every year.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't I would not feel great about the over

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>at all. I would stay away from this one. But

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>if you had to bet, you're saying you would go

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>with the over right, Yeah, I'm.

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Gonna go with the over here. I like them. Then

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a competitive division over nine. So

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 2>they got a ten. Yeah, I could see them. I

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>could see them there.

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, if I had to pick, my guess

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>is they're going to push, so I'd probably stay away

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>from it. But either way, it's certainly not a terrible bet.

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.280
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0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the South here, and you know, unfortunately we're in a

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a holding pattern here with the Andrew

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Luck injury, where it's now some sort of high ankle thing,

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, not just his calf, so it sounds like

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>his availability for the opener could even be in doubt.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>It makes thinking about the over under the Colts in particular,

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>but really all the teams a little difficult, but let's

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>go through it. So Vegas sees this as a pretty

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>even division overall. The Texans are at eight and a

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>half wins, the Colts are at nine and a half,

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars are at eight, and the Titans are at eight.

0:31:59.920 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>So which one of these stands out to you is

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the best bet?

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>You're going to prefix this to say all these teams

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 2>were at these odds because there's plenty of sportsbooks now

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 2>that are pulling down, especially the Colts. The Colts, I

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 2>think I believe are off the board, and a few

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.959
<v Speaker 2>other books as well, to take the entire division off

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the board. And so I think that's the smart move here,

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 2>because if Luck is not there for week one, or

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>even if he misses a few games. Here, we've seen

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>first and knowledge over the last two years how good

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>this team can be with Luck and how bad it

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 2>can be without Luck. Per set, serviceable QB. But he's

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>not Luck, teams aren't going to treat him as such.

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>You know it was ten. It opened nine and a

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>half at some places too. So a lot of people

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 2>are very high on the Colts.

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's see this, Let's see this. Let's let's imagine that

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>we're two weeks later and Luck has been fully cleared,

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and so everything is going to be at these numbers,

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>as if Luck is good to go for the open,

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, Texans eight and a half, Colts nine and

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>a half, Jaguars eight, Titans eight. What do you think.

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>You put me up against the spot there the.

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>First if you want jump, no, no, no problem, okay.

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>So I like to look at things as if let's

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>just look because look, if Luck is hurt and you

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>know we can't, you can't make any bets, then we

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>are where we are. We can just skip the entire division.

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>For me, I'll just look at it. If Luck gets

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>cleared and if he's not going to miss a game,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and if he's fine, then really, the one I like

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>is the Colts, which opened at nine and a half.

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're basically an elite team on every in

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>every sense of the word.

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Frank Reich is one of the best coaches. Luck is elite,

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Hilton is elite, the offensive line is elite. They've added

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Devin Funches and Paris Campbell. They've got Marlon Mack and

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Nam Hines. The defense was fantastic down the stretch. It

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>is a tough schedule, but this is a Super Bowl

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>contender if they're healthy. So if Luck is healthy at

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>this point, and again if he's not, you just stay

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>away from everything. And again you mentioned it. They've Vegas

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>has pulled a lot of sportsbooks have pulled any of

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>these over unders, but especially for the Colts. But if

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>he is healthy at nine and a half, I would

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>jump all over that.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to agree there. I really love Marlon

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Mack two as a complementary to a compliments, your piece

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 2>to what Luck and Hilton can do with the passing game.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I like Functius. That gives them a bigger target, a

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>little a different kind of dynamic for his receiving game.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>And then their defense was was very very good there

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 2>towards the end of last year. I guess I would

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:15.800
<v Speaker 2>at nine and a half. Yeah, I'll go over that.

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I like the little hook rather than sitting dead on

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 2>the ten.

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, how about anybody else in this division? Anybody

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>jump out of you as good value?

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not. I'm not gonna pooh pooh Tennessee here,

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>I've I've seen the season win total. Round eight. Yeah,

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 2>what do you guys have there?

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Eight?

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Round eight? So, I mean this was very close to

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>being a playoff team last year. They had that stupid

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Week one game in Miami that lasted forever. You know,

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.240
<v Speaker 2>had they won that game, they might have they probably

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>would have been in the playoffs. Mariota got hurt it

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>towards that heading into that Week seventeen, that final game

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>against Indianapolis. Drell Casey was also for that game. So

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 2>so two very important players on either side of the ball,

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>both for that. This is year two under Varibel, I

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>expect chemistry and cohesion to be a little little better.

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I've never been a Matt Lafleur fan. I don't think

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the offense changes too much with Arthur Smith and there

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 2>being the tight ends coach and kind of not wanting

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 2>to mix stuff around. But I've never been a big

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Laflur fan. I'm not a big fan of them going

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>to Green Bay. I'm not expecting big things from them.

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I think this defense is the heart and soul of

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the team. Could be the best defense in the division.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 2>They gave up just under nineteen points per game last year.

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>They're solid at just about every single level of that defense.

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, year two under Varabel, the chemistry

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 2>comes together. I think Tennessee could could come in. I

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 2>like they're over eight.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I don't like anybody in this event.

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even assuming Luck is healthy and everything, State

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>word is I just well, the only.

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Like they all play is the schedule for everyone scares

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you off. Because even Houston, even Houston on paper looks

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 2>like a good team when they're healthy, but you look

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.760
<v Speaker 2>at that strength of schedule and the switch and strengths

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 2>of schedule where you know, they played a cupcakes schedule

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 2>last year and now they're you know, getting fed to

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 2>the belly of the beast here.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, got to go They've got to go

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to New Orleans. You know, they've got to go play

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>against the Chargers. They playing, you know, because the NFC South,

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a good division. That's who they drew,

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, Atlanta and Carolina. They do not have anywy schedule.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the point. You know, all the they're basically everyone's

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be around eight wins, and I think that's

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>exactly right. So I just kind of you know, and

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the Titans, I agree completely about their defense. I really

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>like it. I just, man, I'm so down on Mariota

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>at this point. He's just so inconsistent.

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Corey Davis has been a bit of a disappointment. I know,

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, they They've added Adam Humphrees, they drafted Ada Brown,

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Derek Henry's already dealing with injuries. I just I don't know,

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>it strikes me as eight is the right number, frankly,

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not really sure.

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>The thing I'm hoping that they do with Mariota is

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, let him be creative. The best.

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 2>The best that Mariota is is when he's he's in

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 2>these two minutes rills where he's able to come up

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 2>to the line, call it, make the plays that he

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 2>wants to play, play a little bit of school yard football.

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Lafleur didn't really necessarily allow him to do that. The

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>same way he's kind of clamp it down on Aaron

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers a little bit and then sometimes you're hearing a

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>little bit of the pushback there. I would love to

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 2>see Mariota be able to to kind of freestyle it

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 2>a little bit up there, because that's when he that's

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>when he plays his best football.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's hope they do it, right do we don't?

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Do we know what Arthur Smith is going to be doing,

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you know with the offense. I mean, that's the one

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>thing I know.

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he said he said, he said, well here, you're

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 2>coming from a tight ends coach, so he says, they

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 2>want to be physical and they're going to look for

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Derrick Henry, a lot of rush. But

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's only going to get you so far.

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 2>But outside of that, I don't see it changing. All

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 2>too much. But I would like to see them kind

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>of loosen loosen up on Mariota and let him and

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 2>let him have some let him have some fun out there,

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 2>because that's that's when he really does damage.

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's fair and anything quickly on the Jaguars.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You have a feel for them at eight wins.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 2>If yeah, this defense, if they if they could, if

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the defense can be dangerous like they were two years ago,

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 2>not last year, And that was a big thing that

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 2>was missing for this team last year is that they

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 2>just weren't a dangerous team. They were a good defense,

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the trenches, they were fairly good defense,

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't have the takeaways. They didn't have those

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 2>big game changing plays. Just look at that their takeaways

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>from last year compared to the twenty seventeen season, big

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>big difference. I think if they can find that danger

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 2>element on defense, and then Nick Foles, Nick Foles is

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 2>just an automatic improvement over Bortals, you.

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Would be an automatic improvement over there.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I can sling it, brother, I'm sure, I'm yeah. I'm

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>like Vinnie Testa Verdi. I'm trying to think of my

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting up there in age.

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, vine Testaverdi would be an improvement.

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Yeah, yeah, don't say that too loud,

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Vinnie testa Verdi.

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hey, I'm a Jets fan, right was like my hero.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about it.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm a Cowboys fan. So we kind of got his

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>his his gray years.

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, for me, I'm kind of irrationally

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>fond of the Jaguars this year. I like a lot

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of what they did. I expect the defense to be better.

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And again, like you said, Nick Foles is an upgrade,

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>because anybody would be an upgrade. And they've got a

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty decent depth at wide receiver. And I think

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Fournette is you know, he's slim down, He's probably gonna

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 1>be good. But when you look at their schedule, I

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>just you know, there's like eight losses that just jump out.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, if Luck is healthy. You know, they've got

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>two against the Colts, they got the Chiefs, the Saints,

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers, you know, they play in Carolina, in Atlanta,

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>they'll probably split against the Texans. That's eight losses right there.

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's really hard. I'd love to be able to

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>take the over, but you know, assuming that Luck is healthy,

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just not something that I'd be able to pull

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the trigger on. So all right, let's let's move on

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>here to the West, our final division. We've got the

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Broncos at six and a half, the Chiefs at ten,

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders at six, and the Chargers at nine and

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a half. So do any of those jump out to

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you as good value?

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess I'm gonna go Kansas City under Would

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 2>you have ten and a half for Kansas City?

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Just ten? Just ten?

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've seen some ten and a half's out there

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 2>as well, too. Tough start to the season here, they

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>play three of their first four games on the road. Again,

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 2>this is a team that caught a lot of people

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 2>by surprise last season. Definitely not gonna be able to

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 2>do that this year. The home games they do get

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 2>here in the first six weeks, I get some some

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 2>pretty tough teams. You got Baltimore, Indianapolis, in Houston, all

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>of which were playoff teams in twenty eighteen. And then

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the schedule is backloaded with road games as well. They

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>play four of their final seven away from home, with

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 2>stops in New England and Chicago. There, I think that

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be it's gonna be a sweaty finish

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 2>to the season for anyone that bets the over or

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the under on this total. But I mean, I I

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>full faced them in the homes. I just think that

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a tougher sledding for them. They're

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 2>going to get everyone's best. They're not going to get

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, five for six weeks of grace where they

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of surprise teams last year.

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I think all of those are really good points.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a tough line at ten. I mean, I think

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that's what you said. Either side, you're going to be

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>swinning it out. So one of the things we do

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>at Betting Pros, if you go on and you look

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>at consensus over under and you click analysis, you can

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:53.240
<v Speaker 1>see every expert that has made picks what they've picked,

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and twenty four percent have gone over, ten percent have

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>gone under, and sixty seven percent have it as a

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>push at ten, which, frankly, that's basically exactly where I am.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's, by the way, one of the things that

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you know we love about the site is that's kind

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.240
<v Speaker 1>of what it does. You can see generally where everybody

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 1>whos submitting picks is on any given game, so at ten,

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>ten strikes me at the number. I think if I

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>had to at ten and a half, I would probably

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>feel better about the under. At ten, I'd probably go push.

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you make a lot of great points.

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't really see value either way if

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you yeah.

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and we saw defenses finally catch up with

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 2>this team towards the back end of twenty eighteen. They

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 2>especially if you measure up against the spread, they just

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of went from a cash cow to not covering

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 2>at all because one of the public did adjust to it,

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 2>but and the betting markets adjusted to it. But the

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>defense has had a lot more tape on my homes.

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 2>He was somewhat of an unknown commodity at that point, right,

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>so they were able to I mean, the guy's fantastic

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and he's gonna have another fantastic here. But it is

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 2>interesting to see the difference of what they can do

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>or what they can do with Kareem Hunt and the

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Tyreek Hill thing. That was one thing like I was

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 2>reading to really go under on them when Hill was

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Hill's suspension was up in the air. Now that he's back,

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's why we're gonna stuck on the ten.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's why everyone's stuck on ten though.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, And you know, I think it's a really simple

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of explanation. But the bottom line is it is

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 1>really hard in the NFL to win eleven games. I

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>know the Patriots do it every single year, but it's

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>just not I mean, you look at the Chiefs, You're like, oh, well,

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, they've got to win eleven games. That's a

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>really high number. It's a really tough thing to do.

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So ten strikes me as right around the number that

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be at for me, my best bet,

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>and it seems a little silly basically at this point

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to do it. But it would be the Raiders under

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 1>six wins. They've got a couple of interesting things here.

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown is going to play. You know, They've got

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Tyroll Williams, Josh Jacobs and Hunter Renfro and they've added

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 1>LaMarcus Joiner to the defense. So maybe they will improve

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>off the four and twelve. But I mean, look look

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>at the schedule, and that's really what it is. Okay,

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>they open at home against the Broncos and the Chiefs.

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll be generous and I'll give them the win against

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos. Okay, their next five weeks at Minnesota, at Indianapolis,

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>home against Chicago, by at Green Bay, and at Houston.

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>That's four of their next five games on the road

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.240
<v Speaker 1>against good teams, and a home game against the Bears.

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm having a hard time seeing a win there. And

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>then you look at the rest of the schedule. They're

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>home against the Lions, I'll give them that. They're home

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>against the Chargers. That's gonna be a loss. They're home

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>against the Bengals, I'll give them that. They're at the Jets,

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I'll give them that. Then they're at the Chiefs. That's

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 1>a loss. That is four wins so far with four

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>games to play. They're not gonna win in Los Angeles

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>against the Chargers. So to come in over the six wins,

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 1>they've got to win the other three games left. That

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>means that they need to beat Tennessee at home, they

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>need to beat Jacksonville at home, and they need to

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>beat Denver on the road. I don't see them possibly

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 1>winning those three games. And I think you mentioned it earlier.

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>With another team you can see Antonio. I think the Browns.

0:43:56.920 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>You can see Antonio Brown mentally checking out this team

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>gets off to a one and six start, right, So

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 1>for me, this is just strikes me as a disastrous

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 1>year for the Raiders, and I could I could see

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>them easily coming in under. So that's my favorite one.

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of new faces in that receiving

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 2>core two that they have to fit in and get

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 2>chemistry very very quickly with Derek Carr as well, and

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I think they off to a slow start for them.

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.919
<v Speaker 2>I like the under on Denver for this one here

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 2>under what do you guys have seven?

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:24.879
<v Speaker 1>I've got six and a half?

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Six and a half. Yeah, I like the under with them.

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I could see them getting like they might be able

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 2>to get four wins at home this season. Then it's

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, oh, okay, they're halfway there, but the

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.800
<v Speaker 2>road schedule is just wretched outside of Week one at Oakland,

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.720
<v Speaker 2>and even then you're saying Oakland goes in and beats

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:44.280
<v Speaker 2>beats Denver, right, and then they have Week twelve at Buffalo,

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 2>But then, like, where do the other four wins come from?

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a really tough run for them if Fangio brings

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 2>some changes. But I'm not really I mean, I don't

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 2>think anyone's really buying into a Flacco led offense, even

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 2>if they run the ball to it every three snaps.

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.800
<v Speaker 2>He just like I said earlier, you can't compete in

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 2>a pass first league, especially in this division where you

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 2>know teams are gonna put up a ton of points.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 2>You can't. You can't do that with without being able

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 2>to pass the football confidently and stretch it an opposing defense.

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just not going to happen. So I like the

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.240
<v Speaker 2>under there for the Denver Broncos.

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. That was the second one that I

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>would like. My gain, my favorite the Raiders. If I

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 1>had to do another one, it would be the Broncos

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>under six and a half. And really, for all the

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>reasons that you mentioned. I mean, if Emmanuel Sanders comes

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>back and is in fact healthy by week one, then

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>more power to him. But I just really don't think

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to rely on Joe Flacco.

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Which doesn't matter, doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. You might

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 2>be able to have Antonio Brown out there, and if

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacker is your quarterback, get to him now.

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Really, but you pointed out it's the schedule. I mean,

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it is a really, really tough schedule for the AFC West.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 1>They draw the NFC North and the AFC South, you know,

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and again they're in They're the team that's in Buffalo

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>late in the season. That's a really really tough game

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to win. So I agree six and a half is

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 1>under anything, go ahead.

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that I was going to say, just look

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 2>at the road games there, like so, they're they're at Oaklynn,

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 2>that's maybe a win there. At green Bay always tough

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to play at the Chargers at Indy, at Minnesota, at

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo again and towards the end of November. So, like

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you said, cold weather, crappy place to play. They're at

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Houston at Kansas City.

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's nice.

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 2>That is. I don't know where else they're going to

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 2>find any wins now.

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree. It's a really, really, really difficult schedule, particularly

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the breakdown as you said, between the home and away games.

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's certainly not something that I would be super

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>excited about if I could, but I would go for

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the under there. And how about the final team, the Chargers.

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 1>They were at nine and a half in the consensus hots.

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chargers. Chargers are tough one Chargers. Last year, I

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.400
<v Speaker 2>wasn't really sold on the Chargers. I was waiting with

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 2>baited breath to bet against the Chargers in the playoffs. Now,

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I did take them against Baltimore and that in that

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>wildcard round, But then when they played the Patriots, I

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 2>knew they were going to expose. I just saw last

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 2>year that they played a lot of soft offenses. I

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 2>thought that their defensive numbers were a bit puffed up

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 2>because of that. The offense is great and even with

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 2>even without Melvin Gordon, if he holds out, it doesn't play.

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I think they're fine. I mean, Justin Johnson looked fantastic

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 2>in the preseason, Austin Eckler is more than capable of

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>of of taking over the number one running back roll,

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and then Philip Rivers is still an elite passer. So

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to put up their points. They

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 2>get Bosa back for a full year now, and he's

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 2>a He's a one man wrecking crew out there, So

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I could see. I could see San Diego going in,

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe winning this division and going over. Yeah.

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I agree, except that I have to correct it and

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:36.800
<v Speaker 1>we have to call them Los Angeles because.

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I got Oh did I call them San Diego?

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 3>You did?

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I wonder how long we're gonna need how

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>long we're going to need to do that, It's got

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to be three or four seasons, right, because I still

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 1>do it too, and my producer has yelled at me

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>before and I just did.

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I just did San Diego television before and talked about

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the Los Angeles Chargers. Yeah. Yeah, I set my my

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 2>over under on San Diego Chargers at three and a

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 2>half season, so I'm already at one.

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, hopefully, hopefully we can have you back

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>again late in the season and we can talk more

0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and we can just talk about the San Diego Superchargers.

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 3>And that'd be great.

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 2>The San Diego Charger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely. I just as long as they do the

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<v Speaker 1>powder blue uniforms. I'm I'm okay with it at times.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's gonna do it for today show, Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how busy you are. You were just on

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<v Speaker 1>TV right before you came on this show, so I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate you taking the time to talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>football with me today. I hope we can do it

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<v Speaker 1>again during the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, happy to do it anytime you guys want

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<v Speaker 2>to chat. Man, I'm here, all.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to you then, Heavy Name. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that have not been