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Speaker 1: Hey there, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Betting Pros NFL podcast, brought to you by play MGM.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Dan Harris Adi. If you listen to our

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Speaker 1: two shows last week, you now should feel pretty confident

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Speaker 1: about the sports betting landscape and some of the best

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Speaker 1: over unders for the NFC. Well, today we're going to

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Speaker 1: tie a little bow on the season long over unders

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Speaker 1: by breaking down the AFC. And with me to do

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Speaker 1: that is Jason Logan, the senior managing editor for Covers.

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Speaker 1: He and everyone there provides outstanding information across the sports

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Speaker 1: betting industry, and you can find him on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Covers j LO. Jason, thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Not too much. I got some in laws in town,

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Speaker 2: so my host is full of children run around and

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Speaker 2: so that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that this is going to be the I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping this is going to be the first podcast that

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Speaker 1: I do where my kids don't somehow inter rup me

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Speaker 1: something about whenever I'm podcasting and they immediately breaking them office.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely I was before we went on here, I was

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Speaker 2: doing television with a t with the station in San

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Speaker 2: Diego and my son just comes marching down the stairs

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Speaker 2: with NERF gun and like laser scope eye things on. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you gotta go better.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's some good TV. I'd watch that. Actually, if

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Speaker 1: that I was just waiting.

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Speaker 2: I was just waiting to catch a NERF gun into

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, Look, before we get started, I'm sure most

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Speaker 1: people listening probably have the same question I do, which

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Speaker 1: is how many angry dms have you gotten from Jennifer

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Speaker 1: Lopez about your use of j LO and your Twitter handle,

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Speaker 1: Because I mean it's got to be like five or

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Speaker 2: No, No, not much from him. A lot from Alex Rodriguez. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot from Alex Rodriguez, but not not not any

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Speaker 1: All right, well that's good to know, I guess. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's good for you because Frank O'harris he emails

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Speaker 1: me like every day pissed off about the my Twitter handles.

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Speaker 1: So look, you're a big name in the sports betting industry.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into the AFC over unders. I

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Speaker 1: was hoping you can kind of tell everybody a little

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Speaker 1: bit about yourself, how you got into focusing on sports,

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Speaker 1: beending what exactly you do over it covers your eight

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm a tacos guy, so all right, any type

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Speaker 2: I started with covers back in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: actually right before that Eagles Patriot super Bowl, So I

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Speaker 2: so we worked like a twelve hour day, nine in

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Speaker 2: And then from there I went on and became a

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Speaker 2: in a nutshell, I kind of manage all things content

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Speaker 2: a lot of those pies as well. As you know.

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Speaker 2: I worked with our product teams and our development teams,

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Speaker 2: So when I do, when I do get to sit

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your site is great. I've been. I've been checking

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Speaker 1: it out basically all week. They've got a ton of

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Speaker 1: it's really great to check out. I don't want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to dig too. Do you've

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Speaker 1: been to ask you about your age or anything? But

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Speaker 1: is this something that legitimately like did you start when

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Speaker 2: Nope, No, I started with covers. I was probably I

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Speaker 2: to school. But in terms of sports betting, I mean

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Speaker 2: I I mean Canada. I'm located in Canada and we

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Speaker 2: have a lottery system sports betting. It's not fantastic. It's

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Speaker 2: a lot of parlays and skewed odds that returns aren't

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Speaker 2: what they should be. But you know, eighteen eighteen year old,

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Speaker 2: you don't know the ins and outs and that. But

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Speaker 2: I've been a lot of basketball and a lot of

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Speaker 2: with Covers and then just kind of learned the ins

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Speaker 2: important what isn't important in terms of sports betting knowledge

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Speaker 2: versus sports knowledge, versus fantasy knowledge, because there's all other

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a different scope in which you need

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Speaker 2: to view sports through. You know, people say they're a

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Speaker 2: big sports fan until they kind of step into the

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Speaker 2: sports betting world and there's so many angles that you

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Speaker 2: just don't think of. And even to this day, I

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Speaker 2: mean I've been with Covers for almost fourteen years here

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Speaker 2: and still learning things every day every day. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that's kind of my kind of progression through sports bet.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point that you bring up, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I talked about a little bit last week with Dustin Goucher,

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Speaker 1: who's a journalist who covers sort of the evolving sports

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Speaker 1: betting landscape in the United States. Yeah, no, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, Dustin, Yeah, Dustin, Dustin's great, but you know,

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Speaker 1: the big thing is that, you know, people in the

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Speaker 1: United States, it's just suddenly this whirlwind, right, you get

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Speaker 1: a Supreme Court decision that overturns sort of a law

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Speaker 1: that says no, they can legalize sports betting, and now

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Speaker 1: nobody really knows sort of what to do. Everybody just

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Speaker 1: kind of wants to run out and say, great, I

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Speaker 1: And people don't really fully understand kind of what goes

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Speaker 1: we want to do today and here at this podcast

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Speaker 1: going to do today. We're going to go division by

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Speaker 1: division in the AFC and talk about the over unders

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Speaker 1: for every team in each division. We'll start with the East,

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Speaker 1: then the North, the South, and then the West. And

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Speaker 1: we're going to be using the consensus over unders from

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Speaker 1: bettingpros dot com, which is basically the aggregate of available

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Speaker 1: odds in the market, and we'll talk about any that

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Speaker 2: Has that sound yeah, that sounds great?

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to just list the over unders for

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Speaker 1: The Bills are over under at six and a half wins,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've got two season win total kind of

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Speaker 2: one of my articles here you can find that on covers.

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Speaker 2: And surprisingly enough, the best over win total bet that

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Speaker 2: Pearls four and a half four is where I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: some of these ones. The AFCAS really isn't that tough

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Speaker 2: You know, the seven wins. They ranked as the luckiest

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think the big point is at five,

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Speaker 2: I've seen the Dolphins between four four and a half five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, And look for me, I personally, I

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Speaker 1: had no feel for that bet because there's just so

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Speaker 1: You look at last year and that's fine, but obviously

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Speaker 1: Adam Gase was the head coach. You've got new quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Klin Blage and Kenyan Drake, although Drake of course got

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Speaker 1: and now they're probably going to switch to a different system.

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Speaker 1: Under that, oh you are the worst. The podcast where

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Speaker 1: So let's just close shop really quickly. On the Patriots. Look,

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Speaker 1: was forced to do something, I'd probably just take the push.

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Speaker 1: So that's where i'd be. All right, let's move on

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Speaker 1: to the Let's move on to the AFC North. You've

433
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Speaker 1: got the Ravens at eight and a half. You've got

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Speaker 1: the Bengals at five and a half, the Browns at

435
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Speaker 1: nine and a half, and the Steelers at nine. So

436
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Speaker 1: which one of those is your favorite? If any?

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Speaker 2: So I got two here that I do like. I

438
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Speaker 2: like the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Over you were just talking so much against them, man, No, no, no.

440
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Speaker 2: I just said the Jets play Cincinnati in Week sixteen,

441
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Speaker 2: and that could be the game in which it decided

442
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Speaker 2: or not the Jets the Dolphins. The Dolphins play Sorry, yes,

443
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Speaker 2: the Dolphins play them in Week sixteen. That could be

444
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Speaker 2: the deciding, sweated out game for those season win total betters.

445
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Speaker 2: I didn't say they were going to lose the game,

446
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 2: all right, all right, what do you got their season

447
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Speaker 2: win total? I've seen a six out there, what do

448
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Speaker 2: you guys?

449
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Speaker 1: I've got it at five and a half. So you're

450
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Speaker 1: gonna like it even more.

451
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Speaker 2: Well, hell yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, they do find

452
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Speaker 2: themselves in one of the softer schedules here, twenty seventh,

453
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Speaker 2: toughest schedule for Cincinnati. They didn't get much of a

454
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Speaker 2: test there in twenty eighteen, but they just had so

455
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Speaker 2: many injuries up and down, especially on the offense. It

456
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 2: seemed like every week they were losing someone. And it

457
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 2: seems like already the injury bug is still by the name.

458
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Speaker 2: AJ Green's gonna miss at least six weeks here. They

459
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Speaker 2: started the season really strong last year too. They came out,

460
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 2: they won four of their first five, and then all

461
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 2: those missing pieces started kind of biting him in the ass.

462
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Speaker 2: Marvin Lewis is finally gone. I think Taylor is a

463
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Speaker 2: nice breath of fresh air here. You know, I willy

464
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Speaker 2: do the same. Sean McVay magic. I don't know about that,

465
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Speaker 2: but I really like Cincinnati's team on paper. I like

466
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Speaker 2: this offense on paper. I love Tyler Boyd the way

467
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Speaker 2: he stepped up last year. And I love Joe Mixon.

468
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Speaker 2: I think Joe Mixon might be a sleeper. I have

469
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Speaker 2: him in one of my sleeper picks to win the

470
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Speaker 2: rushing title this year. I think he's a fantastic running back.

471
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Speaker 2: They did some improving on the offensive line, and they

472
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Speaker 2: play other teams in this division really really tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and frankly, you look at the rest of their schedule,

474
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Speaker 1: it's not terrible. I mean, they get Oakland, you mentioned Miami,

475
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Speaker 1: they get Arizona. I five and a half wins is low.

476
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Speaker 1: I just don't have a great feel for it because

477
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Speaker 1: I really don't know what it's going to look like

478
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Speaker 1: with Taylor's system. And again, the Jonah Williams injury on

479
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Speaker 1: the offensive line, I think really really hurts. So for me,

480
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Speaker 1: that was one where I just didn't have a great

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Speaker 1: feel for it. It feels like between five and six wins,

482
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Speaker 1: which is why it's at five and a half. So

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Speaker 1: I really I didn't have a great sense. For me,

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Speaker 1: I really feel pretty confident in the Ravens under eight

485
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Speaker 1: and a half, which probably means you're gonna be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I feel great about the Ravens over.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I agree, I agree with you on the

488
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Speaker 2: I'm not sold on the Ravens. You go ahead and

489
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Speaker 2: then I'll see if there's anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and no problem. I mean, look to me, we

491
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Speaker 1: know that the question marks on offense, because you know

492
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Speaker 1: they're basically they've got Lamar Jackson quarterback. You don't really

493
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Speaker 1: know what it's gonna look like. I really think that

494
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Speaker 1: you need that defense to be top notch, and I

495
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Speaker 1: just don't really think that it's gonna be. I think

496
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Speaker 1: they've lost too many pieces with Zadarius Smith and Brent Urban, CJ.

497
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Speaker 1: Mosley and Terrell Suggs. So I don't really know how

498
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Speaker 1: the front seven is going to play. I don't really

499
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Speaker 1: know if we're gonna be able to rely on Marlon

500
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Speaker 1: Humphrey again being an elite cornerback, and Jimmy Smith and

501
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Speaker 1: Brandon Cargan a little long in the tooth. So the defense,

502
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Speaker 1: for me, it just doesn't really get me too excited.

503
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Speaker 1: And with the offense, I know Greg Roman knows how

504
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Speaker 1: to run this system, but you know, you saw what

505
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Speaker 1: happened in that playoff game against the Chargers. It's just

506
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Speaker 1: not really a style that I think is necessarily something

507
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Speaker 1: that can work over the long term. And you know,

508
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Speaker 1: the NFC North, other than maybe the Bengals, is going

509
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Speaker 1: to be tough, and then they get the NFC West,

510
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Speaker 1: which means they've got to play in Seattle they've got

511
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Speaker 1: to go up against the Rams, and they are one

512
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Speaker 1: of the teams that goes to play in Buffalo at

513
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Speaker 1: the end of the season. So for me, I can

514
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Speaker 1: see a path to nine wins. If they won nine,

515
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't fall down on the floor. I don't really

516
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Speaker 1: see a path to ten wins, which means basically, to

517
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Speaker 1: lose the bet, you've got to basically thread that needle,

518
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Speaker 1: and I would be willing to risk it. So Baltimore

519
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Speaker 1: under eight and a half is the one that really

520
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Speaker 1: stuck out to me in the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're on the right track with Baltimore too,

522
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Speaker 2: and sometimes too. I mean, they did have a good

523
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Speaker 2: defense last year, but a lot of it too was

524
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Speaker 2: because they ran the football and they chewed up the clock,

525
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Speaker 2: so that defense was not on the field that much

526
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Speaker 2: at all. At any time that they did have any weaknesses,

527
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Speaker 2: they weren't really exposed on it. Roman says he's completely

528
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Speaker 2: revamped in this playbook after what we saw the Bolts

529
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Speaker 2: do to them running what seven defensive backs o quarter defense? Yeah,

530
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Speaker 2: and absolutely destroy them and just put a lot of

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Speaker 2: speed out there, and that snuffed out the running attack

532
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Speaker 2: and kind of forced Jackson to pass the ball, which

533
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Speaker 2: he's not comfortable doing. I don't think you can win

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Speaker 2: games by running the ball like that anymore, not in

535
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Speaker 2: this NFL. And especially if they do find themselves, if

536
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Speaker 2: the defense is weak and they find themselves behind, I

537
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Speaker 2: don't think they have the firepower to catch up quickly.

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly it. I think in the end,

539
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Speaker 1: they're just not suited to score a ton of points

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Speaker 1: in any game, and I just don't see the defense

541
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Speaker 1: as being the type of defense that's going to be

542
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Speaker 1: able to allow them to kind of play up like that.

543
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Speaker 1: Now Roman did it, of course with Kaepernick, but I

544
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Speaker 1: feel like Kaepernick was I don't know. I don't know

545
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Speaker 1: about Jackson. I don't know exactly what to expect from

546
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Speaker 1: him necessarily as a passer. But you know Kaepernick, they

547
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Speaker 1: were able to run it in San Francisco, so maybe

548
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Speaker 1: he can.

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Speaker 2: But just but if you saw it's almost a similar

550
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Speaker 2: situation that you saw from Colin Kaepernick in that year

551
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Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers, where he came in and

552
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Speaker 2: it was this completely new generational quarterback almost the same

553
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Speaker 2: way and last year came in and it was just

554
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Speaker 2: such a change in direction that it threw other defenses

555
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Speaker 2: off off their game and they you know, it finally

556
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Speaker 2: took until that Wildcard round game for the Chargers to

557
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: figure it out. Very kind of similar situations. Yeah, I

558
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Speaker 2: think with more tape on this on this offense now,

559
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Speaker 2: I think defenses are going to have a leg up

560
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Speaker 2: and I'm just not confident in their passing game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with you there. Okay, what about

562
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Speaker 1: the Browns at nine and a half or the Steelers

563
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Speaker 1: at nine? Do you like or dislike either one of those?

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Speaker 2: I'm going under Browns. The Browns have been the most

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Speaker 2: public team of the offseason. I mean, you look at

566
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Speaker 2: their divisional futures, you look at their Super Bowl lodge.

567
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Speaker 2: You look, I heard you hits, I heard you suck

568
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Speaker 2: your teeth on that one. You're like, no, it's it's uh.

569
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Speaker 2: And I think I think their numbers are a little

570
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Speaker 2: bit inflated because of that. You know, Baker Mayfield is

571
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Speaker 2: an exciting young quarterback. Yeah, the guy shotgun and beers

572
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Speaker 2: at Tribe games. It's awesome. Oh they got OBJ in there. Yeah,

573
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Speaker 2: that's awesome. However, he is still a second year quarterback,

574
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Speaker 2: and I think as teams get more tape, on him.

575
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Speaker 2: You're going to see something catch up with him over time,

576
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Speaker 2: and the expectations are are huge. Was the season win total.

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Speaker 1: Of nine, I've got it nine and a half, nine and.

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Speaker 2: A half, which is a massive jump. I think they

579
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Speaker 2: have a season win total what six or five or

580
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Speaker 2: something last year, which.

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Speaker 1: They were they were seven eight and one. There were

582
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Speaker 1: seven eight one. Yeah no, but they's season win total

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Speaker 1: the original yeah, yess.

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Speaker 2: Wins And that's a and that's a huge that's a

585
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Speaker 2: huge jump. And then also two teams like the Browns

586
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Speaker 2: aren't going to catch teams off guard anymore. People aren't

587
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Speaker 2: gonna look at the Browns and say, oh, that's a

588
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Speaker 2: cupcake game and look past them. Especially when you got Mayfield.

589
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Speaker 2: You know he loves to get in front of the microphone.

590
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Speaker 2: You got Obj, you know he's going to be running

591
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Speaker 2: his mouth. And then once they get Kareem Hunt out there,

592
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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of people that want to

593
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Speaker 2: smack that guy in the mouth as well. I think

594
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Speaker 2: the Browns have a big target on their back. I

595
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Speaker 2: think people are going to come for them. I think

596
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Speaker 2: people are going to love to shut them up. And again,

597
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Speaker 2: this is this is a division where the rivalries will

598
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Speaker 2: run deep. The blood is is very, very very hot.

599
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think that I'm not on the

600
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Speaker 2: Browns over win total. I think they'll be I think

601
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Speaker 2: the be a good team. But I'm not jumping off.

602
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of a public inflated.

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Speaker 1: Okay, look, you did hear correctly, but I'm not sitting

604
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Speaker 1: here saying ooh, I love the Browns at over nine

605
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Speaker 1: and a half, not not anywhere close. The Browns for

606
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Speaker 1: all the reasons that you said. They give me a

607
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Speaker 1: really really uneasy feeling. And it's basically when the public

608
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Speaker 1: buys in so much and gets so excited, I always

609
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Speaker 1: just naturally am sort of like, okay, well, you know,

610
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Speaker 1: let's take a step back here. But I look closely

611
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Speaker 1: at the team and it's really hard for me to

612
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Speaker 1: kind of dislike them. And if I was forced to,

613
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Speaker 1: this is one I would stay away from. I would

614
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Speaker 1: not take the over, but if I was forced to,

615
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Speaker 1: I think I probably would take the over. Again. I

616
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Speaker 1: get everything with Mayfield, but they've added old Ell Beckham Junior.

617
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Speaker 1: The offensive line has improved. The defense is going to

618
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Speaker 1: be really solid overall, you know.

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Speaker 2: See, the defense is going to be disruptive like they

620
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Speaker 2: were last year. They're going to be disruptive. They'll get

621
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Speaker 2: their big sacks and they're going to get their takeaways

622
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, but they are going to give

623
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Speaker 2: up big plays. I don't think this defense is going

624
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Speaker 2: to be an elite unit by any means.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm probably a little more bullish on

626
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: them than New York. I don't think they're going to

627
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: be elite, but I think they're gonna be pretty solid.

628
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, upfront with Miles Garrett and Olivier

629
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Speaker 1: Vernon and Sheldon Richardson, I love Denzel Award, Greedy Williams

630
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: is solid. They've got pretty solid linebackers. I'm gonna like it.

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Speaker 1: I think they can really stay in most games. The

632
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Speaker 1: biggest thing the NFC North, like you said, they just

633
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: beat the heck out of each other. That the AFC

634
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: North that keep saying NFC sorry, they beat the heck

635
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Speaker 1: out of each other. And so you could easily win

636
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Speaker 1: or lose any game that you see them play at

637
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Speaker 1: any given time. And I do think that you make

638
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: a good point. I'm sure everybody's gonna hate Mayfield, and

639
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure anybody's gonna be gunning.

640
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: And here's another here's another thing to consider here, And

641
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: this may be a bit of a stretch, but these

642
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: guys play five of their first eight games on the

643
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Speaker 2: road in twenty nineteen. If they start dropping a few

644
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Speaker 2: wins here or a few games that they should have won,

645
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Guys like Beckham, guys like Mayfield, you know someone's gonna

646
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: say something stupid. All that confidence, all that swagger could

647
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: just get sucked out of the locker room pretty quickly.

648
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: So I think, I think, if I think, if Cleveland

649
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: can survive the first half of the season, get through

650
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: it without imploding with all those egos in the locker room,

651
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: and I hope they do it. I would love to

652
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: see Cleveland do well. I think there's such a fun

653
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: team right now. But that's one thing that I kind

654
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: of have my eye on there, is that they're gonna

655
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: be They're gonna be pushed right out of the gate,

656
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: and let's see if they crumble underneath that pressure.

657
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: No, it is a fair point. Although again I mean

658
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: some of their road games. I mean at the Jets,

659
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: at Baltimore, Fine, I mean, of course, at San Francisco.

660
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not it's not a murderer's road there

661
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: to start the season. But you're right, and they're probably

662
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: expected to win and not get off to a terrible start,

663
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: and if they do, you never know what's going to happen.

664
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Speaker 2: It's right, you drop a few games, you drop a

665
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: few games that you know, the Browns could be kind

666
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: of browning some people. They could be like, oh we

667
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: got this one, Oh we got this one, and then

668
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, the Browns end up smacking them in the mouth,

669
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: like last year with a lot of teams.

670
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: So now that's a fair point. If it's a fair point,

671
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: But if I had to, I personally would still take

672
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: the over five. How about the Steelers at nine? Any

673
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: feeling on that one.

674
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: I do like the Steelers this year. I think the Steelers.

675
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: I like to pick the Steelers to win this division.

676
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: I think, you know, departure of Antonio Brown is playing

677
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: into this perception where the Steelers have maybe fallen off

678
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: in the AFC. North Cleveland looks great. Baltimore is the

679
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: reigning division champ. I think Roethlisberger is still an elite passer.

680
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: He led the league in the yards last year. I

681
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: think Smith Schuster is fantastic. I think James Washington is

682
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: going to be a fantastic wide receiver as well too.

683
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: James Connor proved that he's a suitable replacement there. Maybe

684
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: not the same runner as Le'Veon Bell, but a suitable

685
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: replacement for the running game. They have a fantastic defensive line.

686
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: They tied for the league in sacks last year. There's

687
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: a lot of still very very good things with Pittsburgh.

688
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: They're very tough at home. It's tough to go into

689
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: Hines Field and take a win from them. And I

690
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: think Roethlisberger and Tomlin both have a lot to prove

691
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: this season. I think Roethlisberger has a little bit of

692
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: a chip on his shoulder saying, you know what, Yeah,

693
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: I lost my two for best playmakers, but here's what

694
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: I can do. And then Tomlin. You know, Tomlin got

695
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: the courtesy extension before the preseason, but you know this

696
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: guy's still playing for his job too.

697
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly motivation is going to be a factor. Roethlisberger

698
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: makes me a little nervous just of course his age,

699
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: but his efficiency historically has been really down without Brown.

700
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: But I agree, it's hard to doubt this team, right.

701
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: They're just very consistent. They do it pretty much every year.

702
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't I would not feel great about the over

703
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: at all. I would stay away from this one. But

704
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: if you had to bet, you're saying you would go

705
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: with the over right, Yeah, I'm.

706
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: Gonna go with the over here. I like them. Then

707
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: it's going to be a competitive division over nine. So

708
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: they got a ten. Yeah, I could see them. I

709
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: could see them there.

710
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if I had to pick, my guess

711
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: is they're going to push, so I'd probably stay away

712
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: from it. But either way, it's certainly not a terrible bet.

713
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,280
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Speaker 1: the South here, and you know, unfortunately we're in a

731
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: little bit of a holding pattern here with the Andrew

732
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: Luck injury, where it's now some sort of high ankle thing,

733
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, not just his calf, so it sounds like

734
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: his availability for the opener could even be in doubt.

735
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: It makes thinking about the over under the Colts in particular,

736
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: but really all the teams a little difficult, but let's

737
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: go through it. So Vegas sees this as a pretty

738
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: even division overall. The Texans are at eight and a

739
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: half wins, the Colts are at nine and a half,

740
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are at eight, and the Titans are at eight.

741
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: So which one of these stands out to you is

742
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: the best bet?

743
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: You're going to prefix this to say all these teams

744
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: were at these odds because there's plenty of sportsbooks now

745
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: that are pulling down, especially the Colts. The Colts, I

746
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: think I believe are off the board, and a few

747
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 2: other books as well, to take the entire division off

748
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: the board. And so I think that's the smart move here,

749
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: because if Luck is not there for week one, or

750
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: even if he misses a few games. Here, we've seen

751
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: first and knowledge over the last two years how good

752
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: this team can be with Luck and how bad it

753
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: can be without Luck. Per set, serviceable QB. But he's

754
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: not Luck, teams aren't going to treat him as such.

755
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: You know it was ten. It opened nine and a

756
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: half at some places too. So a lot of people

757
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: are very high on the Colts.

758
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Let's see this, Let's see this. Let's let's imagine that

759
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: we're two weeks later and Luck has been fully cleared,

760
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: and so everything is going to be at these numbers,

761
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: as if Luck is good to go for the open,

762
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: all right, Texans eight and a half, Colts nine and

763
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: a half, Jaguars eight, Titans eight. What do you think.

764
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: You put me up against the spot there the.

765
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: First if you want jump, no, no, no problem, okay.

766
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: So I like to look at things as if let's

767
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: just look because look, if Luck is hurt and you

768
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: know we can't, you can't make any bets, then we

769
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: are where we are. We can just skip the entire division.

770
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: For me, I'll just look at it. If Luck gets

771
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: cleared and if he's not going to miss a game,

772
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: and if he's fine, then really, the one I like

773
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: is the Colts, which opened at nine and a half.

774
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they're basically an elite team on every in

775
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: every sense of the word.

776
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: Right.

777
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: Frank Reich is one of the best coaches. Luck is elite,

778
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Hilton is elite, the offensive line is elite. They've added

779
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: Devin Funches and Paris Campbell. They've got Marlon Mack and

780
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Nam Hines. The defense was fantastic down the stretch. It

781
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: is a tough schedule, but this is a Super Bowl

782
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: contender if they're healthy. So if Luck is healthy at

783
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: this point, and again if he's not, you just stay

784
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: away from everything. And again you mentioned it. They've Vegas

785
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: has pulled a lot of sportsbooks have pulled any of

786
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: these over unders, but especially for the Colts. But if

787
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: he is healthy at nine and a half, I would

788
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: jump all over that.

789
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to agree there. I really love Marlon

790
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: Mack two as a complementary to a compliments, your piece

791
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: to what Luck and Hilton can do with the passing game.

792
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: I like Functius. That gives them a bigger target, a

793
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: little a different kind of dynamic for his receiving game.

794
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: And then their defense was was very very good there

795
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: towards the end of last year. I guess I would

796
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: at nine and a half. Yeah, I'll go over that.

797
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: I like the little hook rather than sitting dead on

798
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: the ten.

799
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, how about anybody else in this division? Anybody

800
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: jump out of you as good value?

801
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not. I'm not gonna pooh pooh Tennessee here,

802
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: I've I've seen the season win total. Round eight. Yeah,

803
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: what do you guys have there?

804
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: Eight?

805
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: Round eight? So, I mean this was very close to

806
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: being a playoff team last year. They had that stupid

807
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: Week one game in Miami that lasted forever. You know,

808
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: had they won that game, they might have they probably

809
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: would have been in the playoffs. Mariota got hurt it

810
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: towards that heading into that Week seventeen, that final game

811
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: against Indianapolis. Drell Casey was also for that game. So

812
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: so two very important players on either side of the ball,

813
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: both for that. This is year two under Varibel, I

814
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: expect chemistry and cohesion to be a little little better.

815
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: I've never been a Matt Lafleur fan. I don't think

816
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: the offense changes too much with Arthur Smith and there

817
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: being the tight ends coach and kind of not wanting

818
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: to mix stuff around. But I've never been a big

819
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: Laflur fan. I'm not a big fan of them going

820
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: to Green Bay. I'm not expecting big things from them.

821
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: I think this defense is the heart and soul of

822
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 2: the team. Could be the best defense in the division.

823
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: They gave up just under nineteen points per game last year.

824
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: They're solid at just about every single level of that defense.

825
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: And like I said, year two under Varabel, the chemistry

826
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: comes together. I think Tennessee could could come in. I

827
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: like they're over eight.

828
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't like anybody in this event.

829
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean, even assuming Luck is healthy and everything, State

830
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: word is I just well, the only.

831
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: Like they all play is the schedule for everyone scares

832
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: you off. Because even Houston, even Houston on paper looks

833
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: like a good team when they're healthy, but you look

834
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: at that strength of schedule and the switch and strengths

835
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: of schedule where you know, they played a cupcakes schedule

836
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: last year and now they're you know, getting fed to

837
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: the belly of the beast here.

838
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, got to go They've got to go

839
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. You know, they've got to go play

840
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. They playing, you know, because the NFC South,

841
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be a good division. That's who they drew,

842
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, Atlanta and Carolina. They do not have anywy schedule.

843
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: That's the point. You know, all the they're basically everyone's

844
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: going to be around eight wins, and I think that's

845
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: exactly right. So I just kind of you know, and

846
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: the Titans, I agree completely about their defense. I really

847
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: like it. I just, man, I'm so down on Mariota

848
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: at this point. He's just so inconsistent.

849
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: You know.

850
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: Corey Davis has been a bit of a disappointment. I know,

851
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, they They've added Adam Humphrees, they drafted Ada Brown,

852
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Derek Henry's already dealing with injuries. I just I don't know,

853
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: it strikes me as eight is the right number, frankly,

854
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: so I'm not really sure.

855
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: The thing I'm hoping that they do with Mariota is

856
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, let him be creative. The best.

857
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: The best that Mariota is is when he's he's in

858
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: these two minutes rills where he's able to come up

859
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: to the line, call it, make the plays that he

860
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: wants to play, play a little bit of school yard football.

861
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: Lafleur didn't really necessarily allow him to do that. The

862
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: same way he's kind of clamp it down on Aaron

863
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: Rodgers a little bit and then sometimes you're hearing a

864
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: little bit of the pushback there. I would love to

865
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: see Mariota be able to to kind of freestyle it

866
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: a little bit up there, because that's when he that's

867
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: when he plays his best football.

868
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Well, let's hope they do it, right do we don't?

869
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Do we know what Arthur Smith is going to be doing,

870
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: you know with the offense. I mean, that's the one

871
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: thing I know.

872
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: Maybe he said he said, he said, well here, you're

873
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: coming from a tight ends coach, so he says, they

874
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: want to be physical and they're going to look for

875
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: a lot of Derrick Henry, a lot of rush. But

876
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: I mean that's only going to get you so far.

877
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: But outside of that, I don't see it changing. All

878
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: too much. But I would like to see them kind

879
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: of loosen loosen up on Mariota and let him and

880
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: let him have some let him have some fun out there,

881
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: because that's that's when he really does damage.

882
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair and anything quickly on the Jaguars.

883
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: You have a feel for them at eight wins.

884
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: If yeah, this defense, if they if they could, if

885
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: the defense can be dangerous like they were two years ago,

886
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: not last year, And that was a big thing that

887
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: was missing for this team last year is that they

888
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: just weren't a dangerous team. They were a good defense,

889
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 2: you know, in the trenches, they were fairly good defense,

890
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: but they didn't have the takeaways. They didn't have those

891
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: big game changing plays. Just look at that their takeaways

892
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: from last year compared to the twenty seventeen season, big

893
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: big difference. I think if they can find that danger

894
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: element on defense, and then Nick Foles, Nick Foles is

895
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: just an automatic improvement over Bortals, you.

896
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: Would be an automatic improvement over there.

897
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: I can sling it, brother, I'm sure, I'm yeah. I'm

898
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: like Vinnie Testa Verdi. I'm trying to think of my

899
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: I'm getting up there in age.

900
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: Now, vine Testaverdi would be an improvement.

901
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, yeah, don't say that too loud,

902
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: Vinnie testa Verdi.

903
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I'm a Jets fan, right was like my hero.

904
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it.

905
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm a Cowboys fan. So we kind of got his

906
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: his his gray years.

907
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: I think, you know, for me, I'm kind of irrationally

908
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: fond of the Jaguars this year. I like a lot

909
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: of what they did. I expect the defense to be better.

910
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: And again, like you said, Nick Foles is an upgrade,

911
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: because anybody would be an upgrade. And they've got a

912
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: pretty pretty decent depth at wide receiver. And I think

913
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: Fournette is you know, he's slim down, He's probably gonna

914
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: be good. But when you look at their schedule, I

915
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: just you know, there's like eight losses that just jump out.

916
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: You know, if Luck is healthy. You know, they've got

917
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: two against the Colts, they got the Chiefs, the Saints,

918
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers, you know, they play in Carolina, in Atlanta,

919
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: they'll probably split against the Texans. That's eight losses right there.

920
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: So it's really hard. I'd love to be able to

921
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: take the over, but you know, assuming that Luck is healthy,

922
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: it's just not something that I'd be able to pull

923
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: the trigger on. So all right, let's let's move on

924
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: here to the West, our final division. We've got the

925
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: Broncos at six and a half, the Chiefs at ten,

926
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders at six, and the Chargers at nine and

927
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: a half. So do any of those jump out to

928
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: you as good value?

929
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm gonna go Kansas City under Would

930
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: you have ten and a half for Kansas City?

931
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: Just ten? Just ten?

932
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen some ten and a half's out there

933
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: as well, too. Tough start to the season here, they

934
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: play three of their first four games on the road. Again,

935
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: this is a team that caught a lot of people

936
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: by surprise last season. Definitely not gonna be able to

937
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: do that this year. The home games they do get

938
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: here in the first six weeks, I get some some

939
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 2: pretty tough teams. You got Baltimore, Indianapolis, in Houston, all

940
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: of which were playoff teams in twenty eighteen. And then

941
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: the schedule is backloaded with road games as well. They

942
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: play four of their final seven away from home, with

943
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: stops in New England and Chicago. There, I think that

944
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: it's going to be it's gonna be a sweaty finish

945
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: to the season for anyone that bets the over or

946
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: the under on this total. But I mean, I I

947
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: full faced them in the homes. I just think that

948
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: it's going to be a tougher sledding for them. They're

949
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: going to get everyone's best. They're not going to get

950
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: you know, five for six weeks of grace where they

951
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: kind of surprise teams last year.

952
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: No, I think all of those are really good points.

953
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: It's a tough line at ten. I mean, I think

954
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: that's what you said. Either side, you're going to be

955
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: swinning it out. So one of the things we do

956
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: at Betting Pros, if you go on and you look

957
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: at consensus over under and you click analysis, you can

958
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: see every expert that has made picks what they've picked,

959
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: and twenty four percent have gone over, ten percent have

960
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: gone under, and sixty seven percent have it as a

961
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: push at ten, which, frankly, that's basically exactly where I am.

962
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: I mean.

963
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: And that's, by the way, one of the things that

964
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: you know we love about the site is that's kind

965
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: of what it does. You can see generally where everybody

966
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: whos submitting picks is on any given game, so at ten,

967
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: ten strikes me at the number. I think if I

968
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: had to at ten and a half, I would probably

969
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: feel better about the under. At ten, I'd probably go push.

970
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you make a lot of great points.

971
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: I just I don't really see value either way if

972
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: you yeah.

973
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: I mean, and we saw defenses finally catch up with

974
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: this team towards the back end of twenty eighteen. They

975
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: especially if you measure up against the spread, they just

976
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: kind of went from a cash cow to not covering

977
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: at all because one of the public did adjust to it,

978
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: but and the betting markets adjusted to it. But the

979
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: defense has had a lot more tape on my homes.

980
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: He was somewhat of an unknown commodity at that point, right,

981
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: so they were able to I mean, the guy's fantastic

982
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: and he's gonna have another fantastic here. But it is

983
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: interesting to see the difference of what they can do

984
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: or what they can do with Kareem Hunt and the

985
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill thing. That was one thing like I was

986
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: reading to really go under on them when Hill was

987
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: Hill's suspension was up in the air. Now that he's back,

988
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: you know, that's why we're gonna stuck on the ten.

989
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why everyone's stuck on ten though.

990
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: Right, And you know, I think it's a really simple

991
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: sort of explanation. But the bottom line is it is

992
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: really hard in the NFL to win eleven games. I

993
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: know the Patriots do it every single year, but it's

994
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: just not I mean, you look at the Chiefs, You're like, oh, well,

995
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, they've got to win eleven games. That's a

996
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: really high number. It's a really tough thing to do.

997
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: So ten strikes me as right around the number that

998
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: they're going to be at for me, my best bet,

999
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: and it seems a little silly basically at this point

1000
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: to do it. But it would be the Raiders under

1001
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: six wins. They've got a couple of interesting things here.

1002
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is going to play. You know, They've got

1003
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: Tyroll Williams, Josh Jacobs and Hunter Renfro and they've added

1004
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Joiner to the defense. So maybe they will improve

1005
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: off the four and twelve. But I mean, look look

1006
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: at the schedule, and that's really what it is. Okay,

1007
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: they open at home against the Broncos and the Chiefs.

1008
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: I'll be generous and I'll give them the win against

1009
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Okay, their next five weeks at Minnesota, at Indianapolis,

1010
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: home against Chicago, by at Green Bay, and at Houston.

1011
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: That's four of their next five games on the road

1012
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: against good teams, and a home game against the Bears.

1013
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time seeing a win there. And

1014
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: then you look at the rest of the schedule. They're

1015
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: home against the Lions, I'll give them that. They're home

1016
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. That's gonna be a loss. They're home

1017
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: against the Bengals, I'll give them that. They're at the Jets,

1018
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: I'll give them that. Then they're at the Chiefs. That's

1019
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: a loss. That is four wins so far with four

1020
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: games to play. They're not gonna win in Los Angeles

1021
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. So to come in over the six wins,

1022
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: they've got to win the other three games left. That

1023
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: means that they need to beat Tennessee at home, they

1024
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: need to beat Jacksonville at home, and they need to

1025
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: beat Denver on the road. I don't see them possibly

1026
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: winning those three games. And I think you mentioned it earlier.

1027
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: With another team you can see Antonio. I think the Browns.

1028
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: You can see Antonio Brown mentally checking out this team

1029
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: gets off to a one and six start, right, So

1030
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: for me, this is just strikes me as a disastrous

1031
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: year for the Raiders, and I could I could see

1032
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: them easily coming in under. So that's my favorite one.

1033
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of new faces in that receiving

1034
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: core two that they have to fit in and get

1035
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: chemistry very very quickly with Derek Carr as well, and

1036
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: I think they off to a slow start for them.

1037
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: I like the under on Denver for this one here

1038
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: under what do you guys have seven?

1039
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: I've got six and a half?

1040
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: Six and a half. Yeah, I like the under with them.

1041
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: I could see them getting like they might be able

1042
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 2: to get four wins at home this season. Then it's

1043
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, okay, they're halfway there, but the

1044
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: road schedule is just wretched outside of Week one at Oakland,

1045
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 2: and even then you're saying Oakland goes in and beats

1046
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: beats Denver, right, and then they have Week twelve at Buffalo,

1047
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: But then, like, where do the other four wins come from?

1048
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: It's a really tough run for them if Fangio brings

1049
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: some changes. But I'm not really I mean, I don't

1050
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: think anyone's really buying into a Flacco led offense, even

1051
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: if they run the ball to it every three snaps.

1052
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: He just like I said earlier, you can't compete in

1053
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: a pass first league, especially in this division where you

1054
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: know teams are gonna put up a ton of points.

1055
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't do that with without being able

1056
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: to pass the football confidently and stretch it an opposing defense.

1057
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: It's just not going to happen. So I like the

1058
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 2: under there for the Denver Broncos.

1059
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. That was the second one that I

1060
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: would like. My gain, my favorite the Raiders. If I

1061
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: had to do another one, it would be the Broncos

1062
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: under six and a half. And really, for all the

1063
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: reasons that you mentioned. I mean, if Emmanuel Sanders comes

1064
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: back and is in fact healthy by week one, then

1065
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: more power to him. But I just really don't think

1066
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: you want to rely on Joe Flacco.

1067
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: Which doesn't matter, doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. You might

1068
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: be able to have Antonio Brown out there, and if

1069
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: Joe Flacker is your quarterback, get to him now.

1070
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: Really, but you pointed out it's the schedule. I mean,

1071
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: it is a really, really tough schedule for the AFC West.

1072
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: They draw the NFC North and the AFC South, you know,

1073
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: and again they're in They're the team that's in Buffalo

1074
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: late in the season. That's a really really tough game

1075
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: to win. So I agree six and a half is

1076
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: under anything, go ahead.

1077
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that I was going to say, just look

1078
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: at the road games there, like so, they're they're at Oaklynn,

1079
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: that's maybe a win there. At green Bay always tough

1080
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: to play at the Chargers at Indy, at Minnesota, at

1081
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo again and towards the end of November. So, like

1082
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: you said, cold weather, crappy place to play. They're at

1083
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: Houston at Kansas City.

1084
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: And that's nice.

1085
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: That is. I don't know where else they're going to

1086
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: find any wins now.

1087
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: I agree. It's a really, really, really difficult schedule, particularly

1088
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: the breakdown as you said, between the home and away games.

1089
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: So it's certainly not something that I would be super

1090
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: excited about if I could, but I would go for

1091
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: the under there. And how about the final team, the Chargers.

1092
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: They were at nine and a half in the consensus hots.

1093
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chargers. Chargers are tough one Chargers. Last year, I

1094
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: wasn't really sold on the Chargers. I was waiting with

1095
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: baited breath to bet against the Chargers in the playoffs. Now,

1096
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: I did take them against Baltimore and that in that

1097
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: wildcard round, But then when they played the Patriots, I

1098
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: knew they were going to expose. I just saw last

1099
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: year that they played a lot of soft offenses. I

1100
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: thought that their defensive numbers were a bit puffed up

1101
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: because of that. The offense is great and even with

1102
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: even without Melvin Gordon, if he holds out, it doesn't play.

1103
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: I think they're fine. I mean, Justin Johnson looked fantastic

1104
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: in the preseason, Austin Eckler is more than capable of

1105
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: of of taking over the number one running back roll,

1106
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: and then Philip Rivers is still an elite passer. So

1107
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: I think they're going to put up their points. They

1108
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: get Bosa back for a full year now, and he's

1109
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: a He's a one man wrecking crew out there, So

1110
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: I could see. I could see San Diego going in,

1111
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: maybe maybe winning this division and going over. Yeah.

1112
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: I agree, except that I have to correct it and

1113
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: we have to call them Los Angeles because.

1114
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: I got Oh did I call them San Diego?

1115
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: You did?

1116
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: It's funny. I wonder how long we're gonna need how

1117
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: long we're going to need to do that, It's got

1118
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: to be three or four seasons, right, because I still

1119
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: do it too, and my producer has yelled at me

1120
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: before and I just did.

1121
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: I just did San Diego television before and talked about

1122
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers. Yeah. Yeah, I set my my

1123
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: over under on San Diego Chargers at three and a

1124
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: half season, so I'm already at one.

1125
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: All right. Well, hopefully, hopefully we can have you back

1126
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: again late in the season and we can talk more

1127
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: and we can just talk about the San Diego Superchargers.

1128
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: And that'd be great.

1129
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: The San Diego Charger.

1130
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I just as long as they do the

1131
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: powder blue uniforms. I'm I'm okay with it at times.

1132
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for today show, Jason.

1133
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I know how busy you are. You were just on

1134
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: TV right before you came on this show, so I

1135
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: really appreciate you taking the time to talk a little

1136
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: football with me today. I hope we can do it

1137
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: again during the season.

1138
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, happy to do it anytime you guys want

1139
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: to chat. Man, I'm here, all.

1140
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,120
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00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: us today. We will be back next week with some

1147
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: more betting advice for the upcoming NFL season.

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00:48:51,280 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you then, Heavy Name. I think that

1149
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 3: I thought that have not been