1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Man, No, I'll be honest with you, just just the 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: way that the league work obviously. You know it's hard 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: to kind of, uh kind of circle back where you 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: come from. Uh, but this was always one of my 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: favorite places, the favorite one of my most favorite places 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: that I've played in. I had nothing but the most 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: respect and love for the city, my family. 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: Uh, it was just a place that you. 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Don't help me turn me into a man coming off 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: of Cleveland, City welcomed me. So it's always fun to 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: come back to a familiar place, and you know, I'm 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: excited to be back for sure. Oh different because I 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: don't I don't recognize the city now. 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: I don't recognize the stadium. Man, it's too much light, 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: you know. 16 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Back over there it was it wasn't enough sunlight over there, 17 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: So us beautiful obviously, what they've done to the facilities, 18 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of things have. 19 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Changed in five years. 20 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: So uh, as soon as I got off the plane, 21 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: man pulling into the stadium, it was just it was 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: just a whole different ball game. 23 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: You know, I came here last year. 24 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: We didn't see this side of the stadium obviously, so 25 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: just seeing this is just super cool. Man, You could 26 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: see that things that turn around here. Obviously on a 27 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: few off the. 28 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Field would have been there. 29 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: About the energy, I know, it's only been two days 30 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: just around the team. 31 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: What's that. 32 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the youth obviously, and you know, just 33 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: just just the energy around here, man, and the guys 34 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: have welcomed me in. 35 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: I think that a. 36 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Lot of these guys, man, they I'm old enough to 37 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: be some of these guys dads. 38 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: Man. So some of these guys. 39 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Man, I remember, God was just like I used to 40 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: watch you in seventh grade and I was just like, men, 41 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: don't tell me that no more. Man. 42 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: It's like I was in the sixth grade when you 43 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: came in the league. 44 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: So man, obviously, it's just it's it's humbling that, you know, 45 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: the respect that the guys have given me since I 46 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: stepp foot in this locker room. 47 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: And you know, obviously just being being any sort of 48 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: assistant to these guys. 49 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Man, got a lot of great young players, man, So 50 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited to just be able to give those guys 51 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: what I got physically and mentally. 52 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: For sure. You got six weeks for six weeks out, 53 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: so how valuable are these next two weeks for you? 54 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: Considering that you're gonna be out for a little while. Yes, 55 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: obviously they're huge. They're huge. Just getting back into the 56 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: groove of things. 57 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Obviously, it was a long season last year, you know, 58 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: coming off of the the Super Bowl loss. But coming here, man, 59 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: just get my body back acclimated to football and things 60 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: of that. No matter how much you train to you 61 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: just can never get ready for football shape or Florida weather. 62 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Being here obviously the old. 63 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: Days back in the day, Man, you just can't duplicate 64 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: this Florida heat. So obviously this is huge. Just getting 65 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: myself acclimated with the playbook, familiar with the team, you know, 66 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: and just kind of breaking bread with these guys man, 67 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: showing face. 68 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: Man, just you know, tapping in with. 69 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: A lot of the guys, man and just getting letting 70 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: them guys get a feel for me and getting a 71 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: feel for these guys, man. So just moving forward, man, 72 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: just being a resource for everybody. The majority of the 73 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: guys they added, including yourself, help a lot of playoff experience. 74 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: You and Eric. What does that do for a young 75 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: team that's trying to get over the hump a little bit. 76 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: It's huge. I think that it is huge. 77 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: I look back on at the time when myself, when 78 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: I was a young guy here and we had that 79 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: push in twenty seventeen. 80 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: They brought guys in like Khalais. 81 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: Campbell, and you think about those guys with huge for 82 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: this team, those guys you bring in guys like Khalaiz 83 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and like Malik who had that playoff experience, man, and 84 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: that was huge for us. 85 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: Man. We was young guys. 86 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I was the oldest guy in the room at twenty 87 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: five years old at the time. So you know, looking 88 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: back on that, just the knowledge of the game. Everybody's 89 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: physically gifted, but the thing about it, man is mentally 90 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: is just the understanding of how the game. 91 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: Man. 92 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: Just the little tidbits that you can get these young guys. Man, 93 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: they are physically talented, or they wouldn't be here, man, 94 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: But a lot of the things is above the shoulders 95 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and some things you just talent can't do. You know, 96 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: age and wisdom And I'm a little long in the tooth, 97 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: so you know, I try to spread wisdom as much 98 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: as I can to these young guys and hopefully it 99 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: stick to them. And and it could just be that 100 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: that extra play that might be a game changer, that 101 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: could get us to where we need to go. 102 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: You have missed a lot of games in your career. 103 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: What do you have you thought about what it's going 104 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: to be like to sit out six of them? 105 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 106 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Man, you know, I've been thinking about it ever since 107 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: you know it came out. You know, just want wanted 108 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: to know what it'll be like watching football from the 109 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: house in the fall. You know, I had a scare 110 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. I got signed a couple of 111 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: days before the last preseason game. That was probably the 112 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: closest I've had to this. But besides that, you know, 113 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: to be unfamiliar territory for me. But obviously I'm grateful 114 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: for the opportunity. I'm grateful that they had enough respect 115 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: for me as a man, as a player, as a 116 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: person to bring me in. 117 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: Here and give me an opportunity. 118 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: And like I said, nothing but love for to see 119 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: the organization from the bottom of my heart. So we're 120 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: just gonna approach this thing, man, And right now we're 121 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: in a building. So I'm just gonna try to be 122 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: a resource and try to pick these guys brain and 123 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: kind of go from there. 124 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: Can you get your old number back? 125 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: I wish, but you know, I don't know like this 126 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: right here, y'all not used to this. I'm not used 127 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: to this, and don't get used to this, all right. 128 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: Forty seven I don't know, man, but you know I 129 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: would like to get it back. 130 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: But you know, at this point, man, if if it's 131 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: if he. 132 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: Have ties to a man, I think i'ma have to 133 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: find another number. 134 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 2: Man. But you know, thirty nine always got a special 135 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: place in my heart for sure. 136 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: Seventeen were you were part of the defense that from 137 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: a ballharking standpoint, that is good. 138 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: What was it about about that defense? And have you 139 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: ever been on one life that you know? 140 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: I say, I tell people that I was asked this 141 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: question in tw two thousand and twenty two in San Francisco. Man, 142 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: that that was a collection of some of the best 143 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: football players I played against, played with, And uh, people 144 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: aksed me all the time, man, and I say, it's 145 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: hard to compare it, man, because that twenty seventeen, that 146 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen team was special. 147 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: Man. 148 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: A lot of those guys as lifelong friends that I 149 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: still keep in contact with, I'm neighbors, were Barry church Man, 150 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: So you know I was my running mate back then. Uh, 151 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: I still talk to Jay Ram Man. He still he 152 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: still is a angry dude all the time. Man. And 153 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: uh so you know, uh but you know that th 154 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: we we just came in here with attitude. It was 155 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: just a a bunch of guys with attitudes, man, and 156 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: and we wanted to prove ourselves and we was hungry. 157 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: We was that young team that nobody gave us respect. 158 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: We had to go out there and and demand it. 159 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: And uh, that team always have a special place in 160 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 2: my heart. Man. I was talking to one of the trainers, Robbie, 161 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: about that team. Man. 162 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean that that that year was a special year. 163 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Many you guys witnessed that. Man. It was a it 164 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: w It was a year that I always remember. So, uh, 165 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: it just was different. It was just we bought into it. Uh, 166 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: we bought into it. 167 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: Man. That was the hardest training camps of all lives. Man. 168 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: We can plain every single day every day. 169 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Uh, but you know, the results paid off and the 170 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: success that we had it was just a blessing. So 171 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: just to be able to be back where you know, 172 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: that kind of thing started, Man, it's just super humbling 173 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for the opportunity. 174 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: A couple came into the league with you aren't gonna 175 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: be here anymore? Yeah, why are you here? First and foremost? 176 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: God, first and foremost, I say that, And I've always 177 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: had that chip on my shoulder just being an undrafted god. 178 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: I think I thought that that was something that I 179 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: used to hate. You know, even after probos and accolades, 180 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: they still refer to me as an undrafted free agent. 181 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: And that thing just used to always push me. 182 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: And it's just something that I always stay humbled and 183 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: always work because I always felt like I never would 184 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: get the same luxury as those first round gods. 185 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: So just staying. 186 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Grounded no matter the accolades, no matter success I've had, 187 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: I just always felt like each year could be that year. 188 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: So and going through things in. 189 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Your career, you get cut a couple of times and 190 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: you look at yourself and sometimes I admit, I gotta 191 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: question yourself, like, man, why is this happening? And when 192 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: those things happen, you just gotta put your big boy 193 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: pants on. Man, you gotta go back to work. So 194 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: I think that everything that I went through in my career, 195 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 1: from the time being undrafted to to to this point, 196 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: man made me humble, made me work hard and just 197 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: always understanding. 198 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: Man. It's a blessing of playing. 199 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: The National Football League and being here is a blessing 200 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: of a lifetime. Man. 201 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: I never take it for granted playing with him, playing 202 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: with Eric Herm said the last few years. Yeah, what 203 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: was that relationship like and what's it like on? Man? 204 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: I love double a man and he was kind of 205 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: like that guy who like everybody. He was one of 206 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: the guys man that you know, when I first got 207 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, Man, he welcomed me, you know, just 208 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: one of those guys that sit at the lock of 209 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: break bread with you and just kind of get to 210 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: know you as a player as a person. 211 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: Man. And that's two years of going San Francisco. So 212 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: to be able to be here with him. 213 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Now, the first thing I did, Man, I seen a man, 214 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: gave him a hug, man, and you know, we we 215 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: we we rapped a little bit, we talked, and man, 216 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: I got nothing but the ultimate respect for him, ultimate 217 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: pro Jacksonville got a great war with him. And you know, 218 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be back with a guy like that. 219 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Not only is he a great player, man, but he's 220 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: he's he's a great teammate. 221 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: And even better leader. And uh, these are the type 222 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: of guys. 223 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: That you want to bring it to your organization to 224 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: help turn things around. 225 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: Man. 226 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: And Jacksonville got a good one. Man, I'm excited to 227 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: be back with my guys. 228 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: Well, all right, Thanksgiving. Appreciate y'all.