1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,675 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. There 2 00:00:21,795 --> 00:00:25,315 Speaker 1: is a crushing Clarence Thomas scandal that could put people 3 00:00:25,355 --> 00:00:27,755 Speaker 1: in prison, and we don't know if it was Yesterday 4 00:00:27,875 --> 00:00:31,955 Speaker 1: Mornings Clarence Thomas scandal featuring the private school tuition, or 5 00:00:31,995 --> 00:00:35,635 Speaker 1: it was yesterday Evening's Clarence Thomas scandal featuring Kelly an 6 00:00:35,795 --> 00:00:40,355 Speaker 1: Cohn job. And there is a Marri Lago snitch close 7 00:00:40,475 --> 00:00:44,155 Speaker 1: to Trump who knows when the document boxes were moved 8 00:00:44,355 --> 00:00:47,355 Speaker 1: and maybe whether the surveillance tapes were tampered with or 9 00:00:47,395 --> 00:00:51,115 Speaker 1: the system glitched. But we don't know if the glitch 10 00:00:51,275 --> 00:00:55,355 Speaker 1: snitch is the same Trump informant identified by Axios Newsweekend 11 00:00:55,435 --> 00:00:59,355 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone on Get This August tenth of last year, 12 00:01:00,235 --> 00:01:03,475 Speaker 1: or if maybe this informant is a different one, a 13 00:01:03,555 --> 00:01:09,155 Speaker 1: second glitch snitch. Since the Supreme Court scandals are mostly 14 00:01:09,195 --> 00:01:12,075 Speaker 1: about what can be done not to Clarence the corrupts, 15 00:01:12,475 --> 00:01:15,835 Speaker 1: but merely to those around him. Thank you, Dianne Feinstein. 16 00:01:16,235 --> 00:01:20,195 Speaker 1: Let's start with Trump. Shall he stitching it all together? 17 00:01:20,315 --> 00:01:23,955 Speaker 1: I think it looks like this After the Justice Department 18 00:01:24,075 --> 00:01:26,915 Speaker 1: sent Trump the subpoena a year ago this month for 19 00:01:27,115 --> 00:01:30,915 Speaker 1: every classified document he was still keeping at mary A Lago. 20 00:01:31,435 --> 00:01:35,835 Speaker 1: Trump ordered that boxes of documents be moved there. Trump 21 00:01:35,875 --> 00:01:38,955 Speaker 1: then rifled through the documents, kept the documents he wanted. 22 00:01:39,315 --> 00:01:41,235 Speaker 1: Trump told his lawyers to tell the FEDS that they 23 00:01:41,275 --> 00:01:44,435 Speaker 1: had returned everything. Trump told the guys who moved the 24 00:01:44,475 --> 00:01:49,075 Speaker 1: boxes not to tell something about that process. And now 25 00:01:49,075 --> 00:01:51,795 Speaker 1: there seems to be reasonably that Trump told key people 26 00:01:52,115 --> 00:01:54,635 Speaker 1: in his organization, not just at mary A Lago, but 27 00:01:54,755 --> 00:01:58,035 Speaker 1: in the whole company. He told them something about the 28 00:01:58,075 --> 00:02:01,395 Speaker 1: security cameras and the videotape, and it may have been 29 00:02:01,715 --> 00:02:07,555 Speaker 1: edit or destroy it, and doing that ordering that can 30 00:02:07,635 --> 00:02:13,995 Speaker 1: get you twenty years for obstruction chump. First it was 31 00:02:14,035 --> 00:02:16,595 Speaker 1: CNN with the scoop that special counsel Jack Smith has 32 00:02:16,675 --> 00:02:20,475 Speaker 1: drilled down on the surveillance footage. Something is wrong with it, 33 00:02:21,155 --> 00:02:24,835 Speaker 1: something is missing, or something is edited, or something is deleted, 34 00:02:24,955 --> 00:02:26,715 Speaker 1: or something didn't work the way it was supposed to. 35 00:02:27,275 --> 00:02:30,115 Speaker 1: Nobody is saying exactly what it is. There are no 36 00:02:30,355 --> 00:02:35,995 Speaker 1: clear hints, but apparently there are communications among Trump operatives 37 00:02:36,155 --> 00:02:39,715 Speaker 1: about the video, about the cameras, about the boxes, about 38 00:02:39,755 --> 00:02:43,835 Speaker 1: moving the boxes, about what to do about all this crap. 39 00:02:44,875 --> 00:02:48,355 Speaker 1: And again there are just vague hints about this, but 40 00:02:48,435 --> 00:02:52,835 Speaker 1: there is enough there there that people have invoked. Eighteen 41 00:02:52,995 --> 00:02:56,835 Speaker 1: US Code one five one nine and eighteen US Code 42 00:02:56,875 --> 00:03:00,595 Speaker 1: one five one nine is quote destruction, alteration, or falsification 43 00:03:00,635 --> 00:03:06,235 Speaker 1: of records in federal investigations and bankruptcy, and that can 44 00:03:06,275 --> 00:03:09,075 Speaker 1: get you twenty years. And if it's destroying or altering 45 00:03:09,315 --> 00:03:13,195 Speaker 1: videotape showing the crime, it will get you twenty years. 46 00:03:13,635 --> 00:03:16,835 Speaker 1: And guess what one of the criminal statutes cited by 47 00:03:16,875 --> 00:03:19,835 Speaker 1: the government when it got the original search warrant for 48 00:03:19,915 --> 00:03:26,715 Speaker 1: Mari Lago was Yes, eighteen US Code one nine destruction 49 00:03:27,115 --> 00:03:33,395 Speaker 1: of records, So that broke. And then who shows up 50 00:03:33,435 --> 00:03:36,435 Speaker 1: to testify to the Trump Document's grand jury yesterday? But 51 00:03:36,515 --> 00:03:40,435 Speaker 1: the two biggest security guys in the Trump organization Matt 52 00:03:41,035 --> 00:03:47,355 Speaker 1: Kalamari Senior and Matt Kalamari Junior. And I know Matt 53 00:03:47,475 --> 00:03:51,035 Speaker 1: Kalamari Senior. I've talked to him, and Trump involves him 54 00:03:51,115 --> 00:03:54,835 Speaker 1: when his organization has screwed up, but it's going to 55 00:03:54,875 --> 00:03:58,395 Speaker 1: fix it immediately. It's promising you that. Or he involves 56 00:03:58,475 --> 00:04:02,435 Speaker 1: Calamary Senior when he wants to terrify somebody. Because Matt 57 00:04:02,555 --> 00:04:06,275 Speaker 1: Kalamari looks like the actor Ron Perlman from Beauty and 58 00:04:06,315 --> 00:04:09,875 Speaker 1: the Beast, only much much bigger and with absolutely no 59 00:04:10,155 --> 00:04:12,875 Speaker 1: neck whatsoever than the voice so booming that if he 60 00:04:12,955 --> 00:04:15,475 Speaker 1: calls you as he did me, you can hear him 61 00:04:15,795 --> 00:04:21,155 Speaker 1: before you answer the phone. Then last night The New 62 00:04:21,235 --> 00:04:24,955 Speaker 1: York Times said the Special Prosecutor's Office has a snitch. 63 00:04:25,515 --> 00:04:29,955 Speaker 1: They've quote obtained the confidential cooperation of a person who 64 00:04:30,035 --> 00:04:33,875 Speaker 1: has worked for him at marri Lago, and it referred 65 00:04:33,915 --> 00:04:36,955 Speaker 1: to a wave of new subpoenas and grand jury testimony, 66 00:04:37,435 --> 00:04:41,955 Speaker 1: including subpoenas to the software company that handles all the 67 00:04:42,035 --> 00:04:46,835 Speaker 1: surveillance footage for the Trump organization, Which is presumably why 68 00:04:47,435 --> 00:04:52,675 Speaker 1: Kalamari father and Kalamari son the two servings of Kalamari Sorry, 69 00:04:53,035 --> 00:04:56,955 Speaker 1: That's presumably why they were called to testify. The Times 70 00:04:57,035 --> 00:05:00,195 Speaker 1: also reports that this line by prosecutors pivots on what 71 00:05:00,355 --> 00:05:04,835 Speaker 1: has been bubbling beneath the surface for months, that Trump's factotum, 72 00:05:05,155 --> 00:05:10,035 Speaker 1: his quote valet unquote Walt Nauta quote failed to provide 73 00:05:10,075 --> 00:05:12,755 Speaker 1: them with a full and accurate account of his role 74 00:05:13,235 --> 00:05:16,355 Speaker 1: in any movement of boxes containing the classified documents. In 75 00:05:16,395 --> 00:05:21,395 Speaker 1: other words, they think this Walt Nauta lied or was 76 00:05:21,675 --> 00:05:25,875 Speaker 1: told to lie by Trump. Little else is known about 77 00:05:25,915 --> 00:05:28,995 Speaker 1: what prosecutors might have learned from the witness, or when 78 00:05:29,035 --> 00:05:32,355 Speaker 1: the witness first began to provide information to the prosecutors. 79 00:05:32,715 --> 00:05:37,155 Speaker 1: The Times ads which brings us back to last August tenth, 80 00:05:37,235 --> 00:05:40,555 Speaker 1: when Axios wrote, quote trump World is a buzz with 81 00:05:40,595 --> 00:05:45,835 Speaker 1: speculation about which close aids or AID has flipped and 82 00:05:45,915 --> 00:05:49,755 Speaker 1: provided additional sensitive information to the FBI about what former 83 00:05:49,795 --> 00:05:53,115 Speaker 1: President Trump was keeping at mari A Lago. And former 84 00:05:53,195 --> 00:05:56,755 Speaker 1: NBC investigative reporter Bill Aiken wrote in Newsweek that the 85 00:05:56,795 --> 00:06:00,035 Speaker 1: FBI search of mary A Lago was quote based largely 86 00:06:00,075 --> 00:06:05,515 Speaker 1: on information from an FBI confidential human source, one who 87 00:06:05,595 --> 00:06:08,795 Speaker 1: was able to identify what classified documents Trump was still 88 00:06:08,875 --> 00:06:14,395 Speaker 1: hiding and even the location of those documents. And the 89 00:06:14,435 --> 00:06:18,435 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal reported quote someone familiar with the stored 90 00:06:18,515 --> 00:06:22,915 Speaker 1: papers told investigators there may be still more classified documents 91 00:06:22,915 --> 00:06:26,235 Speaker 1: at the private club after the National Archives retrieved fifteen 92 00:06:26,275 --> 00:06:29,795 Speaker 1: boxes earlier in the year, Justice Department officials had doubts 93 00:06:29,875 --> 00:06:33,315 Speaker 1: that the Trump team was being truthful regarding what material 94 00:06:33,475 --> 00:06:38,115 Speaker 1: remained at his property, and finally Rolling Stone amped up 95 00:06:38,155 --> 00:06:40,275 Speaker 1: the paranoia and mind you, this is all on the 96 00:06:40,355 --> 00:06:43,875 Speaker 1: same day last year by quoting a source close to 97 00:06:43,915 --> 00:06:47,235 Speaker 1: Trump as saying, quote, he has asked me and others, 98 00:06:47,715 --> 00:06:50,595 Speaker 1: do you think our phones are tapped? And has wondered 99 00:06:50,635 --> 00:06:53,475 Speaker 1: aloud if there were any Republicans visiting his clubs who 100 00:06:53,555 --> 00:07:00,715 Speaker 1: could be wearing a wire. So how many snitches are there? 101 00:07:01,475 --> 00:07:04,555 Speaker 1: And how long have they been snitching? And which of 102 00:07:04,795 --> 00:07:08,155 Speaker 1: them had eighteen US Code one five one nine read 103 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:11,195 Speaker 1: out aloud to them? And how many of them are 104 00:07:11,195 --> 00:07:14,875 Speaker 1: worried about twenty years in prison? And how sweet is 105 00:07:14,915 --> 00:07:17,035 Speaker 1: it that, even at this late date, we have the 106 00:07:17,075 --> 00:07:21,795 Speaker 1: prospect of Trump maybe ordering somebody to alter the tapes, 107 00:07:22,635 --> 00:07:25,915 Speaker 1: like Richard Nixon sitting there listening to the Oval Office 108 00:07:25,915 --> 00:07:28,955 Speaker 1: tape from June twentieth, nineteen seventy two, and hitting play 109 00:07:28,995 --> 00:07:33,195 Speaker 1: and record again and again and again to erase a 110 00:07:33,275 --> 00:07:35,475 Speaker 1: part that he didn't want anybody to hear. And the 111 00:07:35,475 --> 00:07:37,555 Speaker 1: next thing you knew there was the infamous eighteen and 112 00:07:37,555 --> 00:07:39,955 Speaker 1: a half minute gap. And now maybe there's a Trump gap, 113 00:07:39,995 --> 00:07:43,235 Speaker 1: only we don't know how long it is. You should 114 00:07:43,275 --> 00:07:48,755 Speaker 1: excuse the expression. To wrap up the Trump thing. There 115 00:07:48,795 --> 00:07:52,315 Speaker 1: is also the Egene Carol rape and defamation suit and 116 00:07:52,355 --> 00:07:57,275 Speaker 1: Trump basically convicting himself on his taped deposition, which was 117 00:07:57,315 --> 00:08:01,515 Speaker 1: played to the court by confirming that the access Hollywood 118 00:08:01,555 --> 00:08:06,635 Speaker 1: tape is his code of ethics, and by saying Egen 119 00:08:06,755 --> 00:08:11,875 Speaker 1: Carroll wasn't his type parenthesis to rape, but his wives 120 00:08:11,915 --> 00:08:14,555 Speaker 1: were his type. And then they showed him a photo 121 00:08:14,595 --> 00:08:18,115 Speaker 1: of Ejen Carroll and he mistook her for his second wife, 122 00:08:18,115 --> 00:08:21,955 Speaker 1: Marilyn Maples, who he had just said was his type. 123 00:08:22,915 --> 00:08:25,235 Speaker 1: Then came Trump's sudden announcement that he was going to 124 00:08:25,275 --> 00:08:29,515 Speaker 1: come back from Scotland so he could confront Carrol, and 125 00:08:29,555 --> 00:08:32,555 Speaker 1: then his attorney, Joey Tax said, oh, no, he isn't. 126 00:08:32,755 --> 00:08:34,835 Speaker 1: And then the judge said, okay, you haven't until Sunday 127 00:08:34,875 --> 00:08:39,075 Speaker 1: to show up or shut up Trump. And of course 128 00:08:39,075 --> 00:08:41,315 Speaker 1: there was the verdict in the trial of five of 129 00:08:41,355 --> 00:08:46,435 Speaker 1: Trump's hitler youth Enrique Terario and the Proud Boys, four 130 00:08:46,515 --> 00:08:50,315 Speaker 1: out of five of them convicted of sedition literally of 131 00:08:50,395 --> 00:08:54,875 Speaker 1: seditious conspiracy to prevent the peaceful transfer of power, and 132 00:08:54,955 --> 00:08:58,675 Speaker 1: the fifth of them being convicted of obstructing congressional proceedings. 133 00:08:59,555 --> 00:09:02,595 Speaker 1: And at some point one of these homunculie has got 134 00:09:02,595 --> 00:09:05,995 Speaker 1: to be thinking, hmm, maybe I should tell them who 135 00:09:06,035 --> 00:09:08,075 Speaker 1: told me to do this before I go to jail 136 00:09:08,115 --> 00:09:11,075 Speaker 1: for twenty years, and we all know who is at 137 00:09:11,115 --> 00:09:14,435 Speaker 1: the top of that chain of command. Two oh and 138 00:09:14,515 --> 00:09:18,995 Speaker 1: as to the FBI provocateurs and the secret conspiracy crap, 139 00:09:19,195 --> 00:09:22,395 Speaker 1: I know it's really on the videotape and Baked Alaska. 140 00:09:22,515 --> 00:09:26,035 Speaker 1: This and the shaman that the impeccable Scott McFarland of 141 00:09:26,075 --> 00:09:29,195 Speaker 1: CBS News pointed out that all this means the Justice 142 00:09:29,235 --> 00:09:33,515 Speaker 1: Department has secured a partial or full conviction in each 143 00:09:34,035 --> 00:09:37,715 Speaker 1: trial of a January sixth defendant that it has taken 144 00:09:37,795 --> 00:09:44,555 Speaker 1: to the jury. So now to the judges, one in 145 00:09:44,595 --> 00:09:50,395 Speaker 1: particular Clarence the corrupt and with him Dick the docile. 146 00:09:51,515 --> 00:09:54,395 Speaker 1: As one wonders if Harlan Crowe just keeps a template 147 00:09:54,755 --> 00:09:59,555 Speaker 1: of sophistry filled nonsense denials opened on his laptop, you 148 00:09:59,635 --> 00:10:02,235 Speaker 1: also have to assume that Senate Judiciary Chair Dick Durbin 149 00:10:02,275 --> 00:10:06,235 Speaker 1: has a stack of preprinted quotes. How after this the 150 00:10:06,435 --> 00:10:10,515 Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty ninth supremely corrupt court ethics scandal 151 00:10:11,355 --> 00:10:14,555 Speaker 1: this week, we must have a rigid new code of 152 00:10:14,595 --> 00:10:17,875 Speaker 1: conduct for the justices and Chief Justice Roberts, would you 153 00:10:17,875 --> 00:10:20,515 Speaker 1: please do it for us, because Senator Feinstein may or 154 00:10:20,555 --> 00:10:22,835 Speaker 1: may not still be on this planet, so we can't 155 00:10:22,835 --> 00:10:28,235 Speaker 1: get a subpoena issued, let alone any legislation. You know, 156 00:10:28,355 --> 00:10:30,995 Speaker 1: the latest pro publica story by now it's been out 157 00:10:31,035 --> 00:10:33,995 Speaker 1: more than twenty four hours that Harlan Crowe paid for 158 00:10:34,035 --> 00:10:38,435 Speaker 1: the private school tuition of Clarence the Corrupt's grandnephew, whom 159 00:10:38,435 --> 00:10:41,235 Speaker 1: he was raising as a son. And the Harlan Crowe 160 00:10:41,275 --> 00:10:43,915 Speaker 1: excuse was so obvious that at least one hundred Twitter 161 00:10:43,955 --> 00:10:47,675 Speaker 1: writers beat him to it that Crewe has always been 162 00:10:47,715 --> 00:10:52,275 Speaker 1: concerned with at risk children. Then there was the clear 163 00:10:52,315 --> 00:10:55,595 Speaker 1: and convincing defense by Mark Pauletta, who is one of 164 00:10:55,635 --> 00:10:58,635 Speaker 1: the other guys in that giant painting showing Clarence the 165 00:10:58,675 --> 00:11:03,795 Speaker 1: Corrupt at the Harlan Crowe private city in the Adirondack Mountains, 166 00:11:05,115 --> 00:11:07,355 Speaker 1: And he said that Thomas never had to disclose this 167 00:11:07,475 --> 00:11:10,195 Speaker 1: tuition because the law about dependent children does not say 168 00:11:10,275 --> 00:11:14,995 Speaker 1: grand nephew in it. Most entertaining of all was the 169 00:11:15,035 --> 00:11:18,155 Speaker 1: confession on behalf of the Thomases by some nitwit from 170 00:11:18,155 --> 00:11:20,795 Speaker 1: the National Review that Harlan Crowe did not pay the tuition. 171 00:11:21,395 --> 00:11:26,195 Speaker 1: He paid the first year of tuition at two separate institutions. 172 00:11:26,515 --> 00:11:31,995 Speaker 1: Oh well, that's all right. Then then last night came 173 00:11:32,035 --> 00:11:34,995 Speaker 1: the latest Jinny Thomas scandal. And of course we know 174 00:11:35,075 --> 00:11:37,675 Speaker 1: from conservatives that that has nothing to do with Clarence 175 00:11:37,675 --> 00:11:42,155 Speaker 1: the Corrupt because he's not his wife. His wife is 176 00:11:42,235 --> 00:11:47,235 Speaker 1: his wife. Duh. But this one does invoke one of 177 00:11:47,275 --> 00:11:52,235 Speaker 1: America's worst human beings. Washington Post reporting the real life 178 00:11:52,315 --> 00:11:56,915 Speaker 1: version of the fictional character that the Republicans call George Soros. 179 00:11:57,235 --> 00:12:00,755 Speaker 1: That would be Leonard Leo, the man who basically built 180 00:12:00,755 --> 00:12:06,675 Speaker 1: the Federalist Society. Leonard Leo had Kelly Ann Conway bill 181 00:12:06,915 --> 00:12:11,275 Speaker 1: quote another twenty five k to the Judicial Education Project, 182 00:12:11,315 --> 00:12:14,715 Speaker 1: which Leo advises, and give that another twenty five k 183 00:12:15,275 --> 00:12:18,435 Speaker 1: to Ginny Thomas. Oh and remember Kelly Ann to leave 184 00:12:18,475 --> 00:12:22,715 Speaker 1: her name off the paperwork. This was the same year 185 00:12:22,715 --> 00:12:25,955 Speaker 1: that the Judicial Educational Project had filed a brief to 186 00:12:26,435 --> 00:12:30,195 Speaker 1: the Supremely Corrupt Court on the Shelby County be Holder 187 00:12:30,435 --> 00:12:36,915 Speaker 1: voting rights case. So let's go. Subpoena Crow. Subpoena Leonard 188 00:12:36,995 --> 00:12:40,275 Speaker 1: Leo or Leo Leonard or Leo Leo or whatever his 189 00:12:40,355 --> 00:12:45,875 Speaker 1: name is. Subpoena Kelly Ann and right, no, Diane Feinstein, No, 190 00:12:45,995 --> 00:12:52,595 Speaker 1: subpoenas shrug emoji. Yet there are things to do here. 191 00:12:53,395 --> 00:12:57,395 Speaker 1: Brian Boiler pointed out Harland Crowe paid tens of thousands 192 00:12:57,395 --> 00:13:02,035 Speaker 1: of dollars for the tuition of Clarence World's greatest great 193 00:13:02,155 --> 00:13:08,675 Speaker 1: uncle kind of Dad Thomas's great nephew. How did Harlan 194 00:13:08,755 --> 00:13:14,875 Speaker 1: Crow handle that on his taxes? Made them expenses gifts? 195 00:13:15,075 --> 00:13:18,195 Speaker 1: Gifts to Clarence Thomas? Is it a gift to the kid. 196 00:13:18,675 --> 00:13:21,795 Speaker 1: There is a Senate Finance Committee and it has a 197 00:13:21,835 --> 00:13:25,115 Speaker 1: working Democratic majority, and it has an actual all business 198 00:13:25,155 --> 00:13:27,555 Speaker 1: senator named Ron Wyden, and it has the right to 199 00:13:27,595 --> 00:13:30,235 Speaker 1: get tax returns, and it could bring Harlan Crow in 200 00:13:30,275 --> 00:13:32,795 Speaker 1: to testify, And for that matter, could bring in Clarence 201 00:13:32,835 --> 00:13:35,275 Speaker 1: Thomas and Jenny Thomas and Kelly and Conway and Leon 202 00:13:35,395 --> 00:13:37,755 Speaker 1: Leonard Leo and find out if they reported any of 203 00:13:37,755 --> 00:13:40,675 Speaker 1: the money that wound up going from these fascist financiers 204 00:13:40,835 --> 00:13:44,435 Speaker 1: to a Supreme Court justice and his bonker's ex cult 205 00:13:44,475 --> 00:13:47,835 Speaker 1: member wife. And you know what, bring the kid into 206 00:13:48,155 --> 00:13:52,075 Speaker 1: Mark Martin, the great grand whatever he is, Let's see 207 00:13:52,075 --> 00:13:55,235 Speaker 1: how he handled the gift on his taxes. Swear him in. 208 00:13:56,595 --> 00:13:59,315 Speaker 1: I'll repeat what I always say, this is not a game. 209 00:14:00,675 --> 00:14:06,035 Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas alone could corruptly decide by himself who is 210 00:14:06,115 --> 00:14:09,955 Speaker 1: sworn in as president on January twentieth, twenty twenty five. 211 00:14:10,235 --> 00:14:15,555 Speaker 1: He is utterly corrupt, irredeemably compromised. He is a bespectacled 212 00:14:15,835 --> 00:14:20,275 Speaker 1: whore and a criminal. And if Senate Judiciary can't act, 213 00:14:20,475 --> 00:14:24,115 Speaker 1: and if Senate Finance won't act, get the goddamn Justice 214 00:14:24,115 --> 00:14:28,035 Speaker 1: Department in here. Somebody committed fraud against some part of 215 00:14:28,075 --> 00:14:30,715 Speaker 1: the government in at least one of these two stories 216 00:14:30,795 --> 00:14:34,355 Speaker 1: just from yesterday, and whoever that was needs to go 217 00:14:34,435 --> 00:14:36,755 Speaker 1: to prison for it, or be threatened with going to 218 00:14:36,795 --> 00:14:40,435 Speaker 1: prison for it unless they give up. Clarence Thomas, this 219 00:14:41,275 --> 00:14:57,995 Speaker 1: is not a game. Still ahead on this edition of 220 00:14:58,075 --> 00:15:02,395 Speaker 1: Countdown this weekend, just like on every other May sixth 221 00:15:02,395 --> 00:15:06,315 Speaker 1: since the year nineteen fifty four, the newspapers and the 222 00:15:06,395 --> 00:15:09,595 Speaker 1: sites and maybe even some TV will be filled with 223 00:15:09,715 --> 00:15:13,315 Speaker 1: stories of the anniversary of that day May sixth, nineteen 224 00:15:13,395 --> 00:15:16,875 Speaker 1: fifty four. And you may even see film of Roger 225 00:15:16,995 --> 00:15:20,475 Speaker 1: Banister breaking the four minute mile barrier, the first man 226 00:15:20,555 --> 00:15:23,555 Speaker 1: ever to do that, except he wasn't the first man 227 00:15:23,595 --> 00:15:26,715 Speaker 1: ever to do that. All evidence points to it being 228 00:15:26,755 --> 00:15:33,435 Speaker 1: done two hundred years earlier, maybe two thousand years earlier. 229 00:15:34,075 --> 00:15:39,155 Speaker 1: It is without doubt the greatest undeserved record or accomplishment 230 00:15:39,515 --> 00:15:45,315 Speaker 1: in sports history, and quite a goddamned interesting story. That's next. 231 00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:55,875 Speaker 1: This is countdown. This is countdown with Keith old Woman 232 00:16:00,315 --> 00:16:04,315 Speaker 1: still ahead on countdown. The damnedest sports story I've ever reported, 233 00:16:04,435 --> 00:16:07,235 Speaker 1: the track and field milestone of the twentieth century, maybe 234 00:16:07,235 --> 00:16:10,395 Speaker 1: of all time, the breaking of the four minute mile barrier, 235 00:16:10,515 --> 00:16:14,995 Speaker 1: and it's pretty much all a fraud. Next. First, in 236 00:16:15,035 --> 00:16:17,155 Speaker 1: each tradition of countdown, we feature a dog. Indeed you 237 00:16:17,195 --> 00:16:19,675 Speaker 1: can help. Every dog has its day to New York, 238 00:16:19,715 --> 00:16:22,875 Speaker 1: and it's a crisis again at the pound here half 239 00:16:22,915 --> 00:16:25,395 Speaker 1: a dozen dogs could be killed tomorrow, and the most 240 00:16:25,395 --> 00:16:28,715 Speaker 1: criminal of these executions would be that of a pity 241 00:16:28,755 --> 00:16:34,195 Speaker 1: puppy named Venom. He's like twelve months old. Nice they 242 00:16:34,275 --> 00:16:38,635 Speaker 1: named him Venom. Well, despite the name, his family dumped him. 243 00:16:38,675 --> 00:16:41,915 Speaker 1: Even though he is good with kids. He's house trained, 244 00:16:41,955 --> 00:16:45,915 Speaker 1: he's affectionate, he likes being groomed, he likes people. He's 245 00:16:45,955 --> 00:16:48,755 Speaker 1: playful with other dogs. He will let you rub his 246 00:16:48,915 --> 00:16:51,875 Speaker 1: cheek on his face. One of my malteses will not 247 00:16:51,955 --> 00:16:54,595 Speaker 1: let you rub his cheek on his face, and they 248 00:16:54,635 --> 00:16:57,955 Speaker 1: will kill him because the pound is too crowded and 249 00:16:57,995 --> 00:17:00,675 Speaker 1: nobody has ever thought to make it a bigger pound. Instead, 250 00:17:01,475 --> 00:17:03,595 Speaker 1: Venom needs our pledges to defray the cost of a 251 00:17:03,675 --> 00:17:06,115 Speaker 1: rescue to save his life and get him a real home. 252 00:17:06,435 --> 00:17:09,995 Speaker 1: Look for Venom's story on my Twitter feeds. Retweet it please, 253 00:17:10,675 --> 00:17:32,395 Speaker 1: I thank you, and Venom thanks you. This is Sports Senate. Wait, 254 00:17:32,595 --> 00:17:40,155 Speaker 1: check that not anymore. This is Countdown with Keith Alberman 255 00:17:40,435 --> 00:17:43,915 Speaker 1: in sports. This weekend is the anniversary of one of 256 00:17:43,955 --> 00:17:46,515 Speaker 1: the most famous events in sports history, one of the 257 00:17:46,555 --> 00:17:51,515 Speaker 1: most famous events in twentieth century world history, and everything 258 00:17:51,635 --> 00:17:57,475 Speaker 1: you know about it is wrong. Starting at four minutes 259 00:17:57,515 --> 00:18:00,795 Speaker 1: after six o'clock on the evening of Thursday, May sixth, 260 00:18:00,915 --> 00:18:04,595 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four, continuing until the day he died on 261 00:18:04,795 --> 00:18:09,435 Speaker 1: March third, twenty eighteen, not one day, not one day 262 00:18:10,035 --> 00:18:14,595 Speaker 1: went by without somebody congratulating Roger Banister on being the 263 00:18:14,635 --> 00:18:17,675 Speaker 1: first human to run a mile in four minutes or less, 264 00:18:17,755 --> 00:18:22,275 Speaker 1: the man who broke the four minute mile barrier. We 265 00:18:22,435 --> 00:18:26,075 Speaker 1: cannot now comprehend what a big deal this really was. 266 00:18:26,675 --> 00:18:31,995 Speaker 1: Neil Armstrong, Times, Charles Lindberg plus George Washington maybe. The 267 00:18:32,075 --> 00:18:36,995 Speaker 1: next day, The New York Times published ten different stories 268 00:18:37,835 --> 00:18:41,555 Speaker 1: about Roger Banister breaking the four minute mile barrier, plus 269 00:18:42,115 --> 00:18:46,035 Speaker 1: an editorial. An editorial on the editorial page that asked 270 00:18:46,075 --> 00:18:50,155 Speaker 1: if anybody in world history would ever do it again. 271 00:18:51,435 --> 00:18:55,395 Speaker 1: Roger Gilbert Banister began the Times on the front page 272 00:18:55,595 --> 00:18:58,355 Speaker 1: ran a mile in three minutes fifty nine point four 273 00:18:58,395 --> 00:19:05,675 Speaker 1: seconds tonight to reach one of man's hitherto unattainable goals. 274 00:19:07,115 --> 00:19:11,195 Speaker 1: There's just one problem. Not only was Roger Banister probably 275 00:19:11,275 --> 00:19:14,235 Speaker 1: not the first man to run a mile in less 276 00:19:14,235 --> 00:19:16,515 Speaker 1: than four minutes, but there is also a lot of 277 00:19:16,515 --> 00:19:21,635 Speaker 1: evidence that that record was broken in May of seventeen 278 00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:26,875 Speaker 1: seventy by a guy who sold fruits and vegetables from 279 00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:30,875 Speaker 1: a push cart on the streets of London, a guy 280 00:19:31,275 --> 00:19:42,235 Speaker 1: named Parrot. Sixty nine years later, and this is still 281 00:19:42,275 --> 00:19:45,355 Speaker 1: the most famous run in the history of the world. 282 00:19:46,395 --> 00:19:51,035 Speaker 1: May sixth, nineteen fifty four, on an ordinary spring evening 283 00:19:51,075 --> 00:19:54,435 Speaker 1: at the Ifley Road Track at Oxford University in England, 284 00:19:54,715 --> 00:19:58,755 Speaker 1: even as an unfavorable wind worked against him, Roger Banister 285 00:19:58,915 --> 00:20:00,955 Speaker 1: ran through the tape in three point fifty nine to 286 00:20:01,035 --> 00:20:04,875 Speaker 1: four and ran directly into not just sports history, but 287 00:20:05,075 --> 00:20:09,035 Speaker 1: human history, the four minute mile, the first human ever 288 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:12,395 Speaker 1: to run that far that fast, like the first man 289 00:20:12,475 --> 00:20:15,715 Speaker 1: on the moon, no matter how much farther we go. 290 00:20:16,075 --> 00:20:23,595 Speaker 1: But glory is his, indefinitely, forever, always eternal, immortal Neil Armstrong, 291 00:20:24,475 --> 00:20:29,355 Speaker 1: But in shorts or there had already been a four 292 00:20:29,395 --> 00:20:33,115 Speaker 1: minute mile run in seventeen seventy and Banister has no 293 00:20:33,155 --> 00:20:36,275 Speaker 1: more claim to immortality than do you or I. And 294 00:20:36,395 --> 00:20:40,355 Speaker 1: this is really a story about bureaucracy supporting bureaucracy, and 295 00:20:40,435 --> 00:20:43,995 Speaker 1: what the experts call recency bias, and a lot of racism. 296 00:20:44,555 --> 00:20:46,515 Speaker 1: And the story should be about a guy who used 297 00:20:46,555 --> 00:20:48,755 Speaker 1: to sell fruits and vegetables on the streets of London, 298 00:20:48,955 --> 00:20:51,435 Speaker 1: and who ran in his spare time for money in 299 00:20:51,515 --> 00:20:55,835 Speaker 1: the decade before the American Revolution. And his name was Parrot, 300 00:20:56,515 --> 00:20:59,155 Speaker 1: as in look, baby, I know a dead parrot when 301 00:20:59,235 --> 00:21:01,755 Speaker 1: I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. 302 00:21:03,715 --> 00:21:06,635 Speaker 1: We begin in the pages of a British book dated 303 00:21:06,715 --> 00:21:10,315 Speaker 1: from seventeen ninety four, which seems to be for you 304 00:21:10,475 --> 00:21:14,555 Speaker 1: back to the future fans, a kind of Gray's sports Almanac. 305 00:21:14,915 --> 00:21:19,235 Speaker 1: The seventeen ninety four tome bears an amazingly modern title, 306 00:21:19,475 --> 00:21:24,395 Speaker 1: The Sports magazine and its chronology of top sports events 307 00:21:24,435 --> 00:21:28,355 Speaker 1: of recent years past includes for the year seventeen seventy 308 00:21:28,675 --> 00:21:34,755 Speaker 1: this quote seventeen seventy, May ninth, James Parrot a costermonger. 309 00:21:35,235 --> 00:21:38,555 Speaker 1: A costermonger sold fruits and vegetables from a pushcart on street. 310 00:21:38,875 --> 00:21:42,795 Speaker 1: James Parrott, a costumonger, ran the length of Old Street viz. 311 00:21:42,795 --> 00:21:46,835 Speaker 1: From the Charterhouse wall in Goswell Street to Shoreditch Church Gates, 312 00:21:46,955 --> 00:21:51,275 Speaker 1: which is a measured mile, in four minutes. Fifteen guineas 313 00:21:51,315 --> 00:21:54,315 Speaker 1: to five were betted he did not run the ground 314 00:21:54,315 --> 00:21:59,235 Speaker 1: in four minutes and a half. So that's it. I 315 00:21:59,275 --> 00:22:04,555 Speaker 1: am besmirching the immortality of Saint Roger Banister and everything 316 00:22:04,755 --> 00:22:06,875 Speaker 1: you will see in the newspapers about him over the 317 00:22:06,875 --> 00:22:11,475 Speaker 1: weekend because of fifty one words about some guy racing 318 00:22:11,515 --> 00:22:15,595 Speaker 1: against an eighteenth century watch in the year seventeen seventy, 319 00:22:15,595 --> 00:22:21,075 Speaker 1: and the story wasn't even published until twenty four years later. Seriously, Seriously, 320 00:22:22,435 --> 00:22:25,755 Speaker 1: there is nothing else to say about James Parrott. That 321 00:22:25,995 --> 00:22:29,715 Speaker 1: snippet from that book is all that researchers have ever 322 00:22:29,835 --> 00:22:34,635 Speaker 1: found or found out about James Parrott. No obituary, no nothing, 323 00:22:35,075 --> 00:22:39,435 Speaker 1: no four minute mile, no confirmation he ever existed. Besides which, 324 00:22:39,475 --> 00:22:42,035 Speaker 1: as every modern sports fan will tell you, the athletes 325 00:22:42,035 --> 00:22:45,555 Speaker 1: of today are the great, greater, greatest of all time goats. 326 00:22:45,715 --> 00:22:47,995 Speaker 1: If the record book says nobody ran a four minute 327 00:22:47,995 --> 00:22:50,635 Speaker 1: mile until nineteen fifty four, of course the record books 328 00:22:50,635 --> 00:22:55,395 Speaker 1: are right. Since seventeen seventy, humans have evolved, health has evolved, 329 00:22:55,435 --> 00:22:58,875 Speaker 1: training has evolved. Why in seventeen seventy you couldn't even 330 00:22:58,875 --> 00:23:05,955 Speaker 1: accurately measure a mile, let alone measure exactly four minutes. Actually, 331 00:23:06,435 --> 00:23:10,595 Speaker 1: agricultural chains, designed to resolve who owned what property and 332 00:23:10,755 --> 00:23:14,795 Speaker 1: where international borders were had been introduced in sixteen twenty 333 00:23:15,355 --> 00:23:18,435 Speaker 1: and have proved to be at worst only off by 334 00:23:18,475 --> 00:23:22,995 Speaker 1: around two fifths of an inch over a mile. And 335 00:23:23,075 --> 00:23:28,155 Speaker 1: if you're saying agracultural chains, you don't use agricultural chains 336 00:23:28,355 --> 00:23:31,755 Speaker 1: in sports, let me ask you this. What do they 337 00:23:31,875 --> 00:23:34,715 Speaker 1: use in National Football League games to check whether or 338 00:23:34,755 --> 00:23:38,995 Speaker 1: not it's a first down? Okay, we're giving them the 339 00:23:39,035 --> 00:23:42,035 Speaker 1: accuracy of the agricultural chains we still use today in 340 00:23:42,075 --> 00:23:46,755 Speaker 1: our pro sports. You could measure several blocks of London 341 00:23:46,795 --> 00:23:50,115 Speaker 1: in seventeen seventy and say from way back there to 342 00:23:50,315 --> 00:23:52,075 Speaker 1: right over here in front of the church. That is 343 00:23:52,195 --> 00:23:57,115 Speaker 1: exactly a mile, Governor, But how would you time it 344 00:23:57,435 --> 00:24:01,995 Speaker 1: four minutes? Exactly? What did they use? A really good sundial? No, 345 00:24:02,755 --> 00:24:06,555 Speaker 1: that had been called a chronometer, or the chronometer was 346 00:24:06,595 --> 00:24:10,475 Speaker 1: perfected by seventeen sixty one. You may know the chronometer 347 00:24:10,715 --> 00:24:14,195 Speaker 1: as a Swiss watch, or as you might also know it, 348 00:24:14,395 --> 00:24:19,155 Speaker 1: a rolex. So this parrot runs a mile, or maybe 349 00:24:19,195 --> 00:24:21,875 Speaker 1: he runs a mile plus two fifths of an inch, 350 00:24:22,195 --> 00:24:26,555 Speaker 1: and he is timed by several guys with rolexes, and 351 00:24:26,635 --> 00:24:29,395 Speaker 1: they all have the same score. He did it in 352 00:24:29,475 --> 00:24:34,155 Speaker 1: exactly four minutes. If you're still not convinced, if you're 353 00:24:34,155 --> 00:24:38,635 Speaker 1: still googling Roger Bannister's descendants so they can sue this 354 00:24:38,755 --> 00:24:42,395 Speaker 1: idiot Ulderman in his podcast, let me emphasize the part 355 00:24:42,475 --> 00:24:46,035 Speaker 1: that convinced me that a man named Parrot did run 356 00:24:46,075 --> 00:24:49,795 Speaker 1: a four minute mile two months and four days after 357 00:24:49,875 --> 00:24:53,235 Speaker 1: the Boston massacre unleashed the events that would culminate in 358 00:24:53,275 --> 00:24:57,675 Speaker 1: the American Revolution. Permit me to reread that last sentence 359 00:24:57,675 --> 00:25:02,395 Speaker 1: about James Parrott's run from Gray's Sports almana I'm sorry, 360 00:25:02,475 --> 00:25:07,515 Speaker 1: from the Sporting magazine of seventeen ninety quote, fifteen guineas 361 00:25:07,555 --> 00:25:11,235 Speaker 1: to five were betted he did not run the ground 362 00:25:11,315 --> 00:25:16,675 Speaker 1: in four minutes and a half. This guy Parrot bet 363 00:25:16,755 --> 00:25:21,035 Speaker 1: on himself and got three to one odds, and the 364 00:25:21,115 --> 00:25:24,235 Speaker 1: five guineas wagered here that would be worth about fifty 365 00:25:24,275 --> 00:25:27,555 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars in today's money, meaning this was no 366 00:25:27,675 --> 00:25:30,955 Speaker 1: eighteenth century Roger Banister hoping to break a record for 367 00:25:31,075 --> 00:25:33,955 Speaker 1: Queen and Country. This was a guy who did this 368 00:25:34,595 --> 00:25:39,555 Speaker 1: for money, for the equivalent in winnings of about seventeen 369 00:25:39,715 --> 00:25:43,155 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, at least as much as his annual income 370 00:25:43,235 --> 00:25:45,995 Speaker 1: might have been selling fruits and vegetables from a cart, 371 00:25:46,075 --> 00:25:49,035 Speaker 1: And the way it's phrased in that magazine, we don't know. 372 00:25:49,075 --> 00:25:52,155 Speaker 1: If more than one bet of fifteen guineas to five 373 00:25:52,315 --> 00:25:55,835 Speaker 1: was placed, he might have won thirty four thousand dollars 374 00:25:56,155 --> 00:25:58,515 Speaker 1: or fifty one thousand dollars or five hundred and ten 375 00:25:58,555 --> 00:26:04,315 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Because this was for money, the loser or 376 00:26:04,515 --> 00:26:07,595 Speaker 1: losers who bet he could not finish the race in 377 00:26:07,715 --> 00:26:10,915 Speaker 1: four and a half minutes had to be satisfied that 378 00:26:11,035 --> 00:26:13,315 Speaker 1: he had done it in less than four and a half, 379 00:26:13,395 --> 00:26:16,435 Speaker 1: in this case, in four as we know from our 380 00:26:16,555 --> 00:26:20,595 Speaker 1: own times. Losers now like to claim they didn't lose 381 00:26:20,915 --> 00:26:23,155 Speaker 1: and will go to any length to convince others they 382 00:26:23,195 --> 00:26:26,835 Speaker 1: did not lose. But James Parrott got his money, which 383 00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:31,315 Speaker 1: means that the loser or losers believed James Parrott really 384 00:26:31,435 --> 00:26:35,195 Speaker 1: raised a mile and did it in four minutes. I'm 385 00:26:35,275 --> 00:26:38,875 Speaker 1: sold antiquated books and four minute miles run one hundred 386 00:26:38,875 --> 00:26:40,995 Speaker 1: and eighty three years before the first four minute mile, 387 00:26:41,195 --> 00:26:44,795 Speaker 1: and costermongers and agricultural change. They may come and go 388 00:26:45,435 --> 00:26:50,755 Speaker 1: and may be trustworthy or untrustworthy, but money is money, 389 00:26:52,035 --> 00:26:54,955 Speaker 1: and James Parrott was given the equivalent of his annual 390 00:26:55,035 --> 00:26:58,995 Speaker 1: salary at least once because somebody who thought he could 391 00:26:58,995 --> 00:27:03,555 Speaker 1: not do it agreed. Yeah, I was wrong. He really, really, really, 392 00:27:03,635 --> 00:27:08,315 Speaker 1: really did just run the mile in four minutes. Now, 393 00:27:08,595 --> 00:27:11,635 Speaker 1: of course, the whole account in the book could be wrong. 394 00:27:12,515 --> 00:27:14,435 Speaker 1: I'm old enough that I was actually on the air 395 00:27:14,475 --> 00:27:17,675 Speaker 1: doing sportscast on the radio network of United Press International 396 00:27:17,835 --> 00:27:21,555 Speaker 1: on April twenty first, nineteen eighty when Rosie Ruiz quote 397 00:27:21,755 --> 00:27:26,395 Speaker 1: one unquote the Boston Marathon. Then it turned out two 398 00:27:26,435 --> 00:27:29,595 Speaker 1: people had seen Rosie Ruiz burst out of the crowd 399 00:27:29,595 --> 00:27:33,755 Speaker 1: of spectators on Commonwealth Avenue and start running alongside the 400 00:27:33,755 --> 00:27:36,035 Speaker 1: men runners. And then it turned out that while she 401 00:27:36,115 --> 00:27:39,515 Speaker 1: was supposedly completing the nineteen seventy nine New York Marathon, 402 00:27:39,835 --> 00:27:43,075 Speaker 1: she had struck up a conversation with a freelance photographer 403 00:27:43,755 --> 00:27:46,275 Speaker 1: on the subway and the two of them went to 404 00:27:46,315 --> 00:27:49,435 Speaker 1: the finish line together, and Rosie Ruiz then told officials 405 00:27:49,555 --> 00:27:52,435 Speaker 1: she had just finished the race. And Rosie Ruiz was 406 00:27:52,475 --> 00:27:57,515 Speaker 1: a total fraud in two different marathons. Maybe the seventeen 407 00:27:57,595 --> 00:28:01,715 Speaker 1: seventy four minute mile of James Parrott was just inaccurate. 408 00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:05,315 Speaker 1: Maybe it was just an inside joke or a misheard 409 00:28:05,395 --> 00:28:10,555 Speaker 1: rumor or a typo, or he took the subway with 410 00:28:10,915 --> 00:28:14,955 Speaker 1: Rosie Ruiz, or it was a joke by whoever wrote 411 00:28:14,995 --> 00:28:17,315 Speaker 1: the book. I've told you the story before about the 412 00:28:17,395 --> 00:28:20,595 Speaker 1: nineteen twelve Saint Louis Brown's second baseman named Proctor, and 413 00:28:20,635 --> 00:28:22,835 Speaker 1: nobody could find anything about him. And then it turned 414 00:28:22,835 --> 00:28:26,235 Speaker 1: out Proctor was the Western Union operator who used to 415 00:28:26,235 --> 00:28:28,995 Speaker 1: make up all the official scorecards after each game, and 416 00:28:29,035 --> 00:28:30,675 Speaker 1: one day he decided he always wanted to be a 417 00:28:30,755 --> 00:28:33,155 Speaker 1: Major League ballplayer, so he put himself in the scorecard 418 00:28:33,835 --> 00:28:36,555 Speaker 1: maybe James Parrott was the author of this the sports 419 00:28:36,595 --> 00:28:41,555 Speaker 1: magazine or his four minute miles and Monty Python jokes go. Now, 420 00:28:41,595 --> 00:28:45,515 Speaker 1: that's what I call a dead parrot. So if it's 421 00:28:45,515 --> 00:28:48,875 Speaker 1: a mistake, if it's a typo, if it's his hype job, 422 00:28:49,195 --> 00:28:53,555 Speaker 1: if it's Rosie Ruiz, if it's Lou Proctor, Roger Banister 423 00:28:53,715 --> 00:28:57,595 Speaker 1: is safe. Now he's not because there was also a 424 00:28:57,635 --> 00:29:01,635 Speaker 1: runner named Powell, and Powell in seventeen eighty seven said 425 00:29:01,675 --> 00:29:03,195 Speaker 1: he could run a mile in four minutes and he 426 00:29:03,235 --> 00:29:06,835 Speaker 1: wasn't messing around a thousand guineas that he could do 427 00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:11,275 Speaker 1: it one point one million dollars in today's money. And 428 00:29:11,315 --> 00:29:13,515 Speaker 1: not only that, but he ran on a famous English 429 00:29:13,595 --> 00:29:16,755 Speaker 1: running track near Hampton Court, and five days before Christmas 430 00:29:16,795 --> 00:29:20,155 Speaker 1: of seventeen eighty seven he ran a time trial so 431 00:29:20,235 --> 00:29:22,275 Speaker 1: that the gamblers could all come over and see what 432 00:29:22,395 --> 00:29:24,835 Speaker 1: shape he was in and whether they should bet for 433 00:29:25,035 --> 00:29:28,195 Speaker 1: him or bet against him. And he did it in 434 00:29:28,275 --> 00:29:32,115 Speaker 1: the time trial in four minutes and three seconds. And 435 00:29:32,155 --> 00:29:34,515 Speaker 1: when Powell said the betters could see what shape he 436 00:29:34,675 --> 00:29:37,955 Speaker 1: was in, he really meant it. He was dedicated to 437 00:29:38,115 --> 00:29:42,235 Speaker 1: his cause. Five days before Christmas and this guy ran 438 00:29:42,275 --> 00:29:48,195 Speaker 1: a mile naked. All that was in the papers. What 439 00:29:48,315 --> 00:29:51,675 Speaker 1: happened to the actual race, We don't know that. Nobody 440 00:29:51,675 --> 00:29:54,755 Speaker 1: has ever found that newspaper. Nobody's ever found an account 441 00:29:54,755 --> 00:29:57,755 Speaker 1: of the race, only the time trial. So we have 442 00:29:57,915 --> 00:30:00,355 Speaker 1: to go under the assumption that Powell never did better 443 00:30:00,395 --> 00:30:04,275 Speaker 1: than four to oh three. But once again, Roger Banister 444 00:30:04,675 --> 00:30:11,195 Speaker 1: minute mile has withstood the test of time. Uh kinda bah, No, 445 00:30:11,355 --> 00:30:15,275 Speaker 1: actually it hasn't. There's also another guy named Weller. Weller 446 00:30:15,395 --> 00:30:17,595 Speaker 1: was famous enough as a professional runner of the time 447 00:30:17,795 --> 00:30:19,555 Speaker 1: that when he said he could run a mile on 448 00:30:19,595 --> 00:30:22,515 Speaker 1: the Banbury Road in Oxford, the newspapers of the day 449 00:30:22,555 --> 00:30:24,795 Speaker 1: all showed up to preview it, to talk about his 450 00:30:24,835 --> 00:30:27,595 Speaker 1: two brothers, who were also professional runners, and to cover 451 00:30:27,675 --> 00:30:31,315 Speaker 1: his attempt on October tenth, seventeen ninety six. And there 452 00:30:31,355 --> 00:30:35,675 Speaker 1: it is in the papers. Weller of Oxford runs a 453 00:30:35,755 --> 00:30:42,595 Speaker 1: mile in three minutes fifty eight seconds, not only one 454 00:30:42,675 --> 00:30:45,795 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight years before Roger Banister, but a 455 00:30:45,835 --> 00:30:52,475 Speaker 1: second and a half faster than Roger Banister. So here's 456 00:30:52,515 --> 00:30:55,155 Speaker 1: the thing. If somebody really ran a mile in three 457 00:30:55,235 --> 00:30:57,875 Speaker 1: fifty nine or three fifty eight at the time of 458 00:30:57,915 --> 00:31:02,035 Speaker 1: the American Revolution, wouldn't that stand out as such an 459 00:31:02,075 --> 00:31:06,195 Speaker 1: impossible performance, then, such an anomaly so startling that it 460 00:31:06,195 --> 00:31:08,435 Speaker 1: would be viewed in the same way we would view 461 00:31:08,595 --> 00:31:11,555 Speaker 1: news coming up on Monday that somebody now had just 462 00:31:11,715 --> 00:31:14,555 Speaker 1: run the mile in three minutes flat. I mean, if 463 00:31:14,595 --> 00:31:16,875 Speaker 1: somebody ran the mile in three minutes flat, we would 464 00:31:16,955 --> 00:31:18,875 Speaker 1: check to see if the guy was a space alien 465 00:31:19,195 --> 00:31:22,555 Speaker 1: or a time traveler. Wouldn't they have been amazed on 466 00:31:22,675 --> 00:31:27,115 Speaker 1: October tenth, seventeen ninety six, disbelieving what they had heard, 467 00:31:28,915 --> 00:31:31,275 Speaker 1: not at all. And that's the second half of the 468 00:31:31,315 --> 00:31:34,195 Speaker 1: story of the day. Roger Banister did not break the 469 00:31:34,235 --> 00:31:38,835 Speaker 1: four minute barrier. Research and computers and simulations show that 470 00:31:38,995 --> 00:31:42,755 Speaker 1: people in the seventeen eighties were consistently running the mile 471 00:31:43,155 --> 00:31:46,795 Speaker 1: in four minutes and eighteen seconds, four minutes and twenty seconds, 472 00:31:46,835 --> 00:31:49,795 Speaker 1: four minutes and fifteen seconds, if the info about Weller 473 00:31:49,915 --> 00:31:53,715 Speaker 1: is right, three minutes and fifty eight seconds. All the time, 474 00:31:53,795 --> 00:31:56,435 Speaker 1: these numbers were being put up by all kinds of runners. 475 00:31:57,315 --> 00:32:00,475 Speaker 1: So a four minute mile would have been great, but 476 00:32:00,635 --> 00:32:05,355 Speaker 1: not out of context, not in seventeen ninety six. And 477 00:32:05,475 --> 00:32:08,915 Speaker 1: then you have to ask, if it happened, where are 478 00:32:08,995 --> 00:32:12,475 Speaker 1: all those records, who were all those four minute eighteen 479 00:32:12,595 --> 00:32:16,635 Speaker 1: guys and four minute three second guys and three fifty 480 00:32:16,675 --> 00:32:20,755 Speaker 1: eight guys. What happened to the records? Well, see, that's 481 00:32:20,755 --> 00:32:26,515 Speaker 1: another scandal. Those eighteenth century records were erased in the 482 00:32:26,635 --> 00:32:31,955 Speaker 1: nineteenth century because richer, slower people in the nineteenth century 483 00:32:32,315 --> 00:32:37,195 Speaker 1: wanted to say they held the records, they erased the 484 00:32:37,315 --> 00:32:41,435 Speaker 1: record book. That part of the story, and the additional 485 00:32:41,555 --> 00:32:44,155 Speaker 1: sad truth that much of the claims about Roger Banister 486 00:32:44,515 --> 00:32:59,595 Speaker 1: are really really racist. Next we know Roger Banister really 487 00:32:59,715 --> 00:33:03,115 Speaker 1: did run a three minute and fifty nine second mile 488 00:33:04,115 --> 00:33:07,355 Speaker 1: on Mac six, nineteen fifty four in England. It was 489 00:33:07,515 --> 00:33:11,115 Speaker 1: timed and announced to a waiting crowd by no less 490 00:33:11,115 --> 00:33:14,595 Speaker 1: a figure than Norris mcwherder, who was later the founder 491 00:33:14,715 --> 00:33:17,315 Speaker 1: or co founder of the Guinness Book of World Records. 492 00:33:17,635 --> 00:33:21,035 Speaker 1: And everybody who was there saw history and was part 493 00:33:21,115 --> 00:33:24,355 Speaker 1: of an impossible dream coming true. And as I mentioned earlier, 494 00:33:24,515 --> 00:33:26,475 Speaker 1: the next day, the New York Times actually had an 495 00:33:26,595 --> 00:33:29,715 Speaker 1: editorial asking whether or not anybody would ever do it again. 496 00:33:31,555 --> 00:33:34,715 Speaker 1: There is considerable evidence, as I've laid out here, that 497 00:33:34,835 --> 00:33:39,675 Speaker 1: it was done before, like two hundred years before. But 498 00:33:40,275 --> 00:33:42,955 Speaker 1: if you are still not convinced that no, no matter 499 00:33:43,115 --> 00:33:45,755 Speaker 1: what else it was, Roger Banister's three minute fifty nine 500 00:33:45,835 --> 00:33:48,715 Speaker 1: point four second mile on May sixth, nineteen fifty four 501 00:33:48,995 --> 00:33:51,915 Speaker 1: was not the first four minute mile. If James Parrott 502 00:33:52,315 --> 00:33:56,115 Speaker 1: and the naked runner Powell of Hampton Court and Weller 503 00:33:56,235 --> 00:33:58,995 Speaker 1: seventeen ninety six don't convince you there is also this. 504 00:34:00,235 --> 00:34:03,995 Speaker 1: There is a sports historian named Peter Radford, himself the 505 00:34:04,075 --> 00:34:07,235 Speaker 1: bronze medal in two sprints at the nineteen sixty Olympics 506 00:34:07,275 --> 00:34:09,915 Speaker 1: in Rome, and he brought the story of Parrot and 507 00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:13,475 Speaker 1: Powell and Weller to the forefront in the British press 508 00:34:13,555 --> 00:34:17,035 Speaker 1: nearly twenty years ago. This man found them because he 509 00:34:17,195 --> 00:34:19,435 Speaker 1: was looking for and finding the records of more than 510 00:34:19,555 --> 00:34:23,435 Speaker 1: six hundred running races in the eighteenth and nineteenth century. 511 00:34:23,915 --> 00:34:27,635 Speaker 1: Running against the clock, against each other, usually for money, 512 00:34:28,115 --> 00:34:31,475 Speaker 1: was not only the most popular professional sport in Britain 513 00:34:31,635 --> 00:34:35,355 Speaker 1: at that time, it was also probably the first. And 514 00:34:35,515 --> 00:34:39,035 Speaker 1: with so many races and especially winning and losing times recorded, 515 00:34:39,315 --> 00:34:43,795 Speaker 1: Peter Radford had data to work with. When guys didn't 516 00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:46,315 Speaker 1: run a four minute mile, how fast did they run it? 517 00:34:46,595 --> 00:34:50,155 Speaker 1: How fast were these professionals going? The average ones over 518 00:34:50,515 --> 00:34:53,875 Speaker 1: other distances in say, seventeen eighty nine, what was the 519 00:34:54,075 --> 00:34:58,155 Speaker 1: range of times? And his computer looked at all of 520 00:34:58,235 --> 00:35:01,195 Speaker 1: these races six hundred or so, and all of the 521 00:35:01,315 --> 00:35:03,595 Speaker 1: times and all of the speeds, and it spit out 522 00:35:03,675 --> 00:35:07,315 Speaker 1: this conclusion. Factoring in the margin of error, Radford wrote, 523 00:35:07,395 --> 00:35:11,595 Speaker 1: the best possible one mile time would be anywhere between 524 00:35:12,075 --> 00:35:17,755 Speaker 1: four minutes, thirteen seconds and exactly four minutes. So no, 525 00:35:17,915 --> 00:35:21,155 Speaker 1: you cannot say James Parrott ran the first four minute 526 00:35:21,195 --> 00:35:24,395 Speaker 1: mile in seventeen seventy, and Weller ran the first sub 527 00:35:24,555 --> 00:35:27,715 Speaker 1: four minute mile in seventeen ninety six, not with certainty, 528 00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:31,875 Speaker 1: but I think you can say with certainty that somebody 529 00:35:31,995 --> 00:35:34,835 Speaker 1: did it before the year eighteen hundred, and that when 530 00:35:34,955 --> 00:35:38,715 Speaker 1: Roger Banister crashed through the tape at Oxford at six 531 00:35:38,835 --> 00:35:42,155 Speaker 1: oh four Greenwich meantime on the evening of Thursday May sixth, 532 00:35:42,235 --> 00:35:47,555 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four, and the track announcer Norris McWhorter announced 533 00:35:47,595 --> 00:35:50,475 Speaker 1: that Roger Banister's time in the mile was and he 534 00:35:50,555 --> 00:35:54,835 Speaker 1: gave it a desperately long pause by all accounts, three 535 00:35:54,915 --> 00:35:59,035 Speaker 1: minutes fifty I an unfall ten seconds. The moment that 536 00:35:59,195 --> 00:36:03,635 Speaker 1: happened Roger Banister became at best the second man to 537 00:36:03,755 --> 00:36:07,635 Speaker 1: run a mile in four minutes or less, but more 538 00:36:07,795 --> 00:36:11,795 Speaker 1: likely he was like the twenty second or the two 539 00:36:11,915 --> 00:36:17,635 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty second. So why why didn't anybody know this? 540 00:36:18,515 --> 00:36:22,955 Speaker 1: Why did Roger Banister live a life of unceasing, undiminished 541 00:36:23,955 --> 00:36:28,875 Speaker 1: and sorry, undeserved fame? And that guy Weller who may 542 00:36:28,915 --> 00:36:31,195 Speaker 1: have run the race a second faster and one hundred 543 00:36:31,195 --> 00:36:33,675 Speaker 1: and fifty eight years earlier, why don't we even know 544 00:36:33,955 --> 00:36:40,875 Speaker 1: Weller's first name? All sports are based on history. Records 545 00:36:40,915 --> 00:36:43,235 Speaker 1: are made to be broken. The older the record, the 546 00:36:43,395 --> 00:36:47,035 Speaker 1: louder the break. Who screwed this up? How did we 547 00:36:47,275 --> 00:36:51,195 Speaker 1: lose Weller in the nooks and crannies of history. We 548 00:36:51,315 --> 00:36:55,715 Speaker 1: didn't lose him. It wasn't an error. It was deliberate. 549 00:36:57,955 --> 00:37:00,995 Speaker 1: And that's where this gets to be a crime. Our 550 00:37:01,275 --> 00:37:04,835 Speaker 1: historian and ex Olympic runner mister Radford quoted another their 551 00:37:04,875 --> 00:37:09,715 Speaker 1: ancient book, British Rural Sports by J. H. Walsh, which 552 00:37:09,835 --> 00:37:13,035 Speaker 1: was published in eighteen eighty eight, and in it all 553 00:37:13,155 --> 00:37:17,595 Speaker 1: the dozens of speed and distant events had two sets 554 00:37:17,635 --> 00:37:21,835 Speaker 1: of records, one for professionals like Parrot and Powell and Weller, 555 00:37:22,035 --> 00:37:24,795 Speaker 1: the ones who ran for money, the ones on whom 556 00:37:24,795 --> 00:37:27,755 Speaker 1: people bet, the ones who bet on themselves. There was 557 00:37:27,835 --> 00:37:30,075 Speaker 1: that set of records, and then another set of records 558 00:37:30,115 --> 00:37:32,555 Speaker 1: which was given far more weight and far more importance 559 00:37:33,515 --> 00:37:38,195 Speaker 1: for the amateurs. By the early twentieth century, Radford wrote, 560 00:37:38,195 --> 00:37:42,315 Speaker 1: the professional records had been erased from these books, expunged, 561 00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:49,155 Speaker 1: not forgotten, removed. Why because the professionals were far better 562 00:37:49,235 --> 00:37:53,075 Speaker 1: than the amateurs. No amateur held the record in the mile. 563 00:37:53,115 --> 00:37:57,315 Speaker 1: It was all professionals, but the amateurs were in charge. 564 00:37:57,795 --> 00:38:00,835 Speaker 1: They were the British upper class. They raced not for money, 565 00:38:00,915 --> 00:38:04,275 Speaker 1: but for sport. So the amateurs simply did what the 566 00:38:04,355 --> 00:38:07,235 Speaker 1: upper class always does in this situation. They erased the 567 00:38:07,315 --> 00:38:10,155 Speaker 1: records of all the professionals. And oh, by the way, 568 00:38:10,315 --> 00:38:15,275 Speaker 1: they also erased all records set by women. The British 569 00:38:15,475 --> 00:38:19,795 Speaker 1: obsession with the superiority of the amateur over the professional. 570 00:38:20,595 --> 00:38:22,755 Speaker 1: If you've ever seen the movie Chariots of Fire, you 571 00:38:22,875 --> 00:38:25,875 Speaker 1: already know exactly what I mean. It spread throughout the 572 00:38:25,995 --> 00:38:29,275 Speaker 1: world through the Olympics. That's why Jim Thorpe lost all 573 00:38:29,315 --> 00:38:32,035 Speaker 1: his gold medals from the nineteen twelve Games. Why the 574 00:38:32,115 --> 00:38:35,795 Speaker 1: greatest all around athlete ever died in poverty because he 575 00:38:35,875 --> 00:38:38,835 Speaker 1: had once played minor league baseball to make some money 576 00:38:38,915 --> 00:38:40,995 Speaker 1: in the summer, and everybody knew about it, and nobody 577 00:38:41,075 --> 00:38:44,115 Speaker 1: thought they'd hold it against it, but then they held 578 00:38:44,195 --> 00:38:47,475 Speaker 1: it against him. He was a professional, so his records 579 00:38:47,555 --> 00:38:51,955 Speaker 1: did not count like James Parrott or fill in the 580 00:38:52,035 --> 00:38:56,315 Speaker 1: blank here, Powell or I don't remember his first name Weller. 581 00:38:58,315 --> 00:39:02,355 Speaker 1: So the world record in the mile as of the 582 00:39:02,435 --> 00:39:05,915 Speaker 1: year eighteen sixty one was it to a man, an 583 00:39:05,995 --> 00:39:11,035 Speaker 1: amateur named Matthew Green. Matthew Green was the fastest man 584 00:39:11,235 --> 00:39:16,955 Speaker 1: in human history four minutes and forty six seconds, four 585 00:39:17,035 --> 00:39:20,795 Speaker 1: minutes and forty six seconds. In my twenties, I might 586 00:39:20,875 --> 00:39:24,715 Speaker 1: have come close to that number. By nineteen thirteen, the 587 00:39:24,795 --> 00:39:28,595 Speaker 1: International Amateur Athletics Federation had taken over, and it recognized 588 00:39:28,595 --> 00:39:32,435 Speaker 1: a runner from Cornell, not me, a different runner from Cornell, 589 00:39:32,635 --> 00:39:35,035 Speaker 1: as the all time outdoor record holder in the mile 590 00:39:35,395 --> 00:39:40,155 Speaker 1: four minutes and thirteen seconds, John Paul Jones, one hundred 591 00:39:40,155 --> 00:39:43,875 Speaker 1: and forty three years after James Parrott. The indoor record 592 00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:46,235 Speaker 1: in the mile was then held by a man named 593 00:39:46,275 --> 00:39:52,035 Speaker 1: Abel kiviat four eighteen and two I met Abel kiviat 594 00:39:52,115 --> 00:39:55,435 Speaker 1: I interviewed him when he was ninety. I wish I 595 00:39:55,515 --> 00:39:58,115 Speaker 1: had known about James Parrott. Then I didn't. Abel and 596 00:39:58,195 --> 00:40:00,995 Speaker 1: I talked about his roommate at the nineteen twelve Olympics, 597 00:40:01,075 --> 00:40:03,235 Speaker 1: Jim Thorpe Gott to tell you that story. Sometime too, 598 00:40:04,675 --> 00:40:06,715 Speaker 1: boy Able Kiviat and I could have had a conversation 599 00:40:06,795 --> 00:40:09,595 Speaker 1: about amateurs versus professionals and whether or not his record 600 00:40:09,715 --> 00:40:13,595 Speaker 1: was actually a record. Anyway, you can see where this 601 00:40:13,755 --> 00:40:16,435 Speaker 1: is all going, and we are almost at our proverbial 602 00:40:16,475 --> 00:40:19,915 Speaker 1: finish line. Not only did history forget the great athletes 603 00:40:19,955 --> 00:40:22,315 Speaker 1: of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries like Parrot and Powell 604 00:40:22,315 --> 00:40:24,315 Speaker 1: and Weller, who if they did not break the four 605 00:40:24,355 --> 00:40:26,715 Speaker 1: minute mile, they came damn close and did a lot 606 00:40:26,835 --> 00:40:30,115 Speaker 1: better than my friend Abel Kiviat did, or my Cornell 607 00:40:30,155 --> 00:40:32,795 Speaker 1: guy John Paul Jones, to say another, of Matthew Green 608 00:40:32,875 --> 00:40:34,995 Speaker 1: four minutes and forty six seconds, What did you do 609 00:40:35,195 --> 00:40:41,035 Speaker 1: stop for lunch? Not only were the remarkable athletes like 610 00:40:41,235 --> 00:40:46,915 Speaker 1: Parrot and Powell and Weller forgotten, they were buried deliberately. 611 00:40:48,275 --> 00:40:51,315 Speaker 1: It makes the subject of the Roger Banister four minute 612 00:40:51,395 --> 00:40:58,315 Speaker 1: mile that everybody celebrates with almost undiminished astonishment every year 613 00:40:58,395 --> 00:41:00,995 Speaker 1: at this time. It makes all this a little less 614 00:41:01,195 --> 00:41:06,635 Speaker 1: trivial and a little bit more nefarious, wrong and ugly. 615 00:41:09,035 --> 00:41:12,195 Speaker 1: Speaking of ugly and Banister, there is one other component 616 00:41:12,275 --> 00:41:15,035 Speaker 1: to this story. In the nineteen nineties, having been the 617 00:41:15,195 --> 00:41:18,795 Speaker 1: god of the four minute mile for four decades, having 618 00:41:18,875 --> 00:41:21,315 Speaker 1: been celebrated every day for breaking a record that was 619 00:41:21,435 --> 00:41:24,435 Speaker 1: probably broken one hundred and eighty three years before, Roger 620 00:41:24,515 --> 00:41:28,075 Speaker 1: Banister was asked about the new generation of runners, those 621 00:41:28,675 --> 00:41:33,675 Speaker 1: of African descent on September twelfth, nineteen ninety five, Sir 622 00:41:33,915 --> 00:41:39,195 Speaker 1: Roger Banister explained, quote, it's certainly obvious when you see 623 00:41:39,235 --> 00:41:41,635 Speaker 1: an all black sprint final that there must be something 624 00:41:41,715 --> 00:41:45,875 Speaker 1: rather special about their anatomy or physiology which produces these 625 00:41:45,915 --> 00:41:49,115 Speaker 1: outstanding successes. And indeed there may be, but we don't 626 00:41:49,195 --> 00:41:52,515 Speaker 1: know quite what it is. Some countries have the good 627 00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:55,795 Speaker 1: fortune to have a high proportion of black sprinters and hurdlers. 628 00:41:56,555 --> 00:42:02,755 Speaker 1: End quote. Nineteen years later, Banister was still driving right 629 00:42:02,875 --> 00:42:05,995 Speaker 1: into the Eugenics lanes. Sound just enough like Jimmy the 630 00:42:06,035 --> 00:42:10,195 Speaker 1: Greek Snyder to make you squirm. I love watching people 631 00:42:10,315 --> 00:42:14,155 Speaker 1: like Usain Bolt, Banister said. The West Africans, of course, 632 00:42:14,195 --> 00:42:18,355 Speaker 1: have an inbuilt advantage. Having been transported as slaves to 633 00:42:18,435 --> 00:42:22,555 Speaker 1: the West Indies, only the toughest endured. They have astonishing 634 00:42:22,715 --> 00:42:29,715 Speaker 1: muscle composition, with those fast fibers and superior genes. I 635 00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:33,395 Speaker 1: will leave it to you and to his maker an 636 00:42:33,395 --> 00:42:36,875 Speaker 1: assessment of how much of Roger Banister was patronizing, how 637 00:42:36,955 --> 00:42:39,275 Speaker 1: much was him trying to rationalize how his time had 638 00:42:39,315 --> 00:42:43,435 Speaker 1: been bettered by nearly ten percent, and how much of 639 00:42:43,475 --> 00:42:46,675 Speaker 1: it was just sheer racism. But I will note that 640 00:42:46,795 --> 00:42:49,475 Speaker 1: in what Banister said is another reason to believe that 641 00:42:49,595 --> 00:42:53,075 Speaker 1: the idea that he was the first human to run 642 00:42:53,115 --> 00:42:58,595 Speaker 1: a four minute mile is laugh out loud ridiculous. What 643 00:42:58,795 --> 00:43:04,115 Speaker 1: about all of the runners of color over the centuries, 644 00:43:04,995 --> 00:43:09,715 Speaker 1: over the millennia, in Africa and South America and elsewhere 645 00:43:09,835 --> 00:43:15,635 Speaker 1: on this globe. By Banister's own disturbing logic, certainly some 646 00:43:15,915 --> 00:43:19,195 Speaker 1: of them must have beaten him to breaking the four 647 00:43:19,275 --> 00:43:25,995 Speaker 1: minute tape. No, let me close with this. I don't 648 00:43:26,075 --> 00:43:29,475 Speaker 1: know for certain who ran the first four minute mile 649 00:43:29,715 --> 00:43:33,435 Speaker 1: or when. For all we know, it was broken two 650 00:43:33,595 --> 00:43:35,755 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, and for that matter, so was the 651 00:43:35,795 --> 00:43:38,555 Speaker 1: present world record of three point forty three point thirteen. 652 00:43:38,715 --> 00:43:41,275 Speaker 1: Might have been James Parrott or Powell or Weller whose 653 00:43:41,315 --> 00:43:43,915 Speaker 1: first names we don't know, or someone so lost to 654 00:43:43,995 --> 00:43:46,195 Speaker 1: history that we don't know their first name, or their 655 00:43:46,275 --> 00:43:49,955 Speaker 1: last name, or their country. We don't know who it was. 656 00:43:51,355 --> 00:43:54,115 Speaker 1: But no matter what you hear, or see or read 657 00:43:55,075 --> 00:43:57,635 Speaker 1: in this Weekend Ahead, it's sure as hell was not 658 00:43:57,955 --> 00:44:04,555 Speaker 1: Roger Banister, which brings us lastly to missus Roger Banister, 659 00:44:05,035 --> 00:44:10,835 Speaker 1: Moira Elva Jacobsen Banister, daughter of a Swedish economist. According 660 00:44:10,875 --> 00:44:14,115 Speaker 1: to Roger Banister, his wife didn't know a lick about sports, 661 00:44:14,195 --> 00:44:19,555 Speaker 1: let alone about running, let alone about him running for 662 00:44:19,675 --> 00:44:23,795 Speaker 1: a time. Roger Banister once said, my wife thought I 663 00:44:23,915 --> 00:44:32,675 Speaker 1: had run four miles in one minute. You know, as 664 00:44:32,715 --> 00:44:35,075 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this and researching that story, you 665 00:44:35,155 --> 00:44:38,635 Speaker 1: might as well go with that. Four miles in one 666 00:44:38,715 --> 00:44:43,435 Speaker 1: minute no more ridiculous than thinking that Roger Banister was 667 00:44:43,515 --> 00:44:46,835 Speaker 1: the first man to run one mile in four minutes. 668 00:45:00,355 --> 00:45:03,435 Speaker 1: Bottom line, Roger Banister did an impressive thing on May sixth, 669 00:45:03,515 --> 00:45:07,395 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four. He did not break any barriers nor 670 00:45:07,475 --> 00:45:10,395 Speaker 1: set any records. And why we celebrate this every year? 671 00:45:10,595 --> 00:45:13,955 Speaker 1: I do not know I've done all the damage I 672 00:45:13,995 --> 00:45:15,475 Speaker 1: can do here Here are the credits. Most of the 673 00:45:15,555 --> 00:45:17,955 Speaker 1: music was arranged, produced and performed by Brian Ray and 674 00:45:18,035 --> 00:45:21,075 Speaker 1: John Phillip Shanelle, who are the Countdown musical directors. All 675 00:45:21,235 --> 00:45:24,835 Speaker 1: orchestration and keyboards by John Phillip Shanelle, Guitars, bass and 676 00:45:24,915 --> 00:45:29,075 Speaker 1: drums by Brian Ray, produced by Tko Brothers. Other Beethoven 677 00:45:29,115 --> 00:45:32,155 Speaker 1: selections have been arranged and performed by No Horns allowed. 678 00:45:32,675 --> 00:45:35,435 Speaker 1: The sports music is the Olberman theme from ESPN two 679 00:45:35,475 --> 00:45:38,835 Speaker 1: and it is written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN, Inc. 680 00:45:39,355 --> 00:45:42,555 Speaker 1: Musical comments by Nancy Fauss. The best baseball stadium organist 681 00:45:42,595 --> 00:45:46,795 Speaker 1: ever and our announcer today was Roger Banister. No, it's 682 00:45:46,915 --> 00:45:50,075 Speaker 1: Jonathan Banks from Breaking Bad. Everything else is pretty much 683 00:45:50,115 --> 00:45:53,635 Speaker 1: my fault except the stuff about Banister. That's countdown for 684 00:45:53,675 --> 00:45:56,035 Speaker 1: this the eight hundred and fiftieth days since Donald Trump's 685 00:45:56,075 --> 00:45:58,635 Speaker 1: first attempted coup against the democratically elected government of the 686 00:45:58,755 --> 00:46:02,075 Speaker 1: United States. Do not forget to keep arresting him while 687 00:46:02,115 --> 00:46:06,555 Speaker 1: we still can. The next schedule Cauntdown is Monday till then. 688 00:46:06,595 --> 00:46:09,595 Speaker 1: I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and 689 00:46:10,315 --> 00:46:28,115 Speaker 1: good luck. 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