1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: What is going on everybody, How are we doing? Hopefully 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: everyone is doing well out there on the streets, wheeling 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: and dealing, living life. And we're gonna do a little 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: football podcast today because that's what we do here and 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: with the combine going on. 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: We got John Lynch throughout some singers today. Sean McVeigh 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: went on Whitwurst and Fitzpatrick's podcast, talked about the Stafford situation, 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: the contract, the trade, how they're He was very he 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: was very good. I recommend listening because he went in 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: depth discussing the topic of Matthew Stafford and some other stuff, 12 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: a lot of other stories around. We talked about the 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: Tush push yesterday, so you can go check that out. 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: We did a Go Low football podcast yesterday if you 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: missed it. I kind of combined them both just because 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: the combine was going down. And yeah, we'll talk to 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: some football today. No mailbag. I will save the mail 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: bag for fou Gayzy Friday, which a lot of you 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: guys fired in questions, so we got a bunch. Might 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: just do another huge mail bag unless some big story 21 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: breaks tomorrow. But we'll see. We go day by day here, 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: so we're just keeping our head above water. If you 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: listen on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe. You got 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: a YouTube channel, make sure you subscribe to that as well. 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: All of our content is up there, and any other 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: pressing things I need to tell you, I don't think so. 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little combine. You know, this is 28 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: the last day for the coaches and the gms to 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: talk now. Granted, they will talk on NFL Network with 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: DJ and Rich and you know, I saw McAfee's in Indianapolis, 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: so other guys will do some interviews, but just in 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: terms of formal interviews with the press. Whenever you say 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: the press sounds so like nineteen eighty with people that 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: talk and report and write about football. That's over. So 35 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: this cool thing about the NFL, I remember was it 36 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. And granted, I mean it's 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: one of the biggest trades in the history of sports. 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: When Luca got traded the Lakers. Everyone's like the NBA 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: is stealing the NFL shine during Super Bowl Week, and 40 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the NFL has a few more curveballs up their sleeve. 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: Because the combine is just content out of thin air. 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, let's just go to Indianapolis have a 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: bunch of guys work out and basically make every GM 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: talk and ideally every coach will talk, and not everyone does. 45 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: But we got a lot of good content out of 46 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: these guys talking, which felt a little like the season 47 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: because they kind of go into hibernation then un till 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: free agency and then they will do some formal Every 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: coach in GM has to talk before the DRAFTFT as well, 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: so we'll hear from a couple more times before late April. 51 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: But this is it is a fun time of year 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: for those of us that love the draft, that love transactions, 53 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: that love the drama. You know, I think the NFL 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: does a good job of balancing the games. The main 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: thing is the main thing, and the drama, which is 56 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: important player movement, free agency as being a piece of 57 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: the puzzle, A big piece of the puzzle. I mean, 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: it carries them through several months in the offseason before 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: we get to OTAs, which pretty boring even if you 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: attend them. I've attended OTAs for a long for fifteen 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: plus years. You know, you by about fifteen minutes in 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: you're excited to see some football and then you're like, 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: can I go to the golf course. I would think 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: that if I was working for the team or covering 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: the team. But I do want to start with John Lynch, who, 66 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: like I said, I I do think it's a major 67 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: mistake for any head coach, and Kyle's not alone. It's 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: been reported that twenty six or twenty seven of the 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: head coaches are there. But I do believe that every 70 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: head coach should go to this event because there is 71 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: importance and you can do your busy work evaluating free agents, 72 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: catching up on the draft and other stuff in your 73 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: hotel room. Like Andy Reid is not hitting the bars 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: at night like he's working there as well as doing 75 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: formal interviews and going to the workouts. So my stance 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: on that will never change. And this isn't the quote 77 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: unquote scout in me. It's just if if you told me, hey, 78 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, the volume has a has a sales convention 79 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: and it's not mandatory, but hey, if you want to come, 80 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: we would love to see there. We think it's going 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: to be pretty important. We're gonna have a lot of 82 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: people that invest and advertise on our platforms. It's like, oh, 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: where is it, and they'd be like, well, it's halfway 84 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: across the country and I'd go, well, who's going? Will 85 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Colin and Shannon Sharp are going to be there? Do 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'd do? I'd be like, I should 87 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: probably go. It'd probably be a good idea. And if 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: the guy that's been to five Super Bowls in six 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: years and is heading straight to the Hall of Fame 90 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: goes every single year, you should probably go. I mean 91 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: you just should. And I you know, McVeigh I don't 92 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: know why him and Kyle just do not value this thing. 93 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: I think they they don't like the the gossiping nature 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: of it. You know, there is a lot of people 95 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: talking to each other and they're not that into that getting, 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, going out at night. But still like you 97 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: don't have to do that, like I promise you this. 98 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Like Andy Reid's not shutting down the bars. Neither was 99 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. But there just is value here now. It 100 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: is the general manager is leading the charge during this event, 101 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: just like during the season, the head coach is leading 102 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: the charge. And John Lynch hit the podium today representing 103 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and he said some I would 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: say pretty enlightening things. Now I've said for a while 105 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: the arguing I had no problem having a strong opinion 106 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: of like I would not give two a money, you know, 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty one hundred and eighty million dollars. 108 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: I thought giving Trevor Lawrence two hundred million dollars is 109 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: one of the most insane things in the history of sports. 110 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: It's like, you're gonna give him two hundred million dollars guaranteed. 111 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: Are we living in the same world now, Brock party, 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: I understand where they're coming from. They have won a 113 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: ton of games with the guy. They have seen him 114 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: make huge plays in big playoff games. So the unlike 115 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: Tua who got whatever one hundred and sixty hundred and 116 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: seventy million dollars, or even Jordan Love who had only 117 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: excelled in eight games and won one playoff game, I 118 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: understood their view on the guy right. They had won 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: playoff games with Brock perty four if memory serves me correct. 120 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: So you know, you could go into a game and 121 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: win when forty fifty million people are watching, and if 122 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: you lose, you get eliminated. And I think the difference 123 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: between the AFC and the NFC is pretty big because 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: in the AFC it's harder. Why some of the greatest 125 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: quarterback talents we've ever seen. I mean, Mahomes is already 126 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: he's like not even thirty, and we already consider him 127 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: not just a top five quarterback, but like, is he 128 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: the second best quarterback of all time? Like, if it 129 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: goes Brady Montana, is he third? I mean, that's that's 130 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: where we're talking. And Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are 131 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: just rattling off MVPs. And if it wasn't for one 132 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks of all time, one of those 133 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: two would probably have a Super Bowl. Potentially both of 134 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: them would have a super Bowl. I mean, it's just 135 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: it's really that simple. And Joe Burrow, who missed the playoffs, 136 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: is one of the best quarterbacks in recent memory. The 137 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: guy's a fucking stut Now. I think Jim Harbaugh can 138 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: be a little hyperbolic, and he he said today that 139 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Herbert has a chance to be one of the greatest 140 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks ever, not like in the league right now, but 141 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: like ever. But that's kind of how Jim talks. But 142 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: he's not wrong, Like I would expect Herbert to have 143 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot of success under Jim. All those guys are 144 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: in the AFC and in the NFC. Like, let's face it, now, Jaden, 145 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: can't he keep it up? We'll see it's gonna be hard. 146 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: I would bet on it, but like he's done it 147 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: one year we saw CJ. Stroud quote unquote regress. But 148 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: when you look at the guys having the most success, 149 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: Jared Goff and Jalen Hurts, I think they have something 150 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: in common with what the forty nine ers have excelled 151 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: at with their team. They built up the team around 152 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: their quarterback. Jalen makes a ton of money, Jared Goff 153 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: makes a ton of money. They are on loaded teams, 154 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: and it is a lot easier to excel when you 155 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of talent around you. It's why this argument, 156 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: like is it the system? Is it the player? Is it? Like? 157 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: What would he look like on a shitty team? Well, 158 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: they're not on a shitty team. Jalen Hurts gets to 159 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: play with AJ Brown, gets to play with Devonte Smith, 160 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, oh yeah, and say Kwan Barkley in the 161 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: best offensive line in the league. He gets that, and 162 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: through that they win a ton of games. They just 163 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Honestly, they probably should have two 164 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: in three years, right. Jared goff. If it wasn't for 165 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: some of the craziest injury luck we've ever seen, they 166 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: probably would have been in the NFC Championship against the Eagles. Now, 167 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: even healthy, I don't think it's a lock they win 168 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: that game. Obviously, the Eagles are superloaded, but that's what 169 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about, and the forty nine ers win healthy. 170 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: A year ago, they were the equivalent loaded team around 171 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback who's really good and proven you could win 172 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: with and proven you could win the playoffs. So to me, 173 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: the pressure like he's getting paid, So the argument like 174 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: should they pay him or not? They're paying him, John 175 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Lynch said, were already in contract negotiations. Honestly, they had, 176 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, decided to pay him last year after the 177 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, like this was a done deal because the 178 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: way the season ended wasn't great. But they'll just chock 179 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: it up injuries other luck. Kyle Shanahan wasn't good. But 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: to me, the pressure now is on John Lyncher Kyle Shanayan. 181 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: It just is just like the moment they paid Jalen Hurts, 182 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: the pressure was on Nick Sirianni and Howie Roseman, and 183 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: those guys answered the belt. Just like the moment you 184 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: go all in on Jared Goff and they did a 185 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and you stick with him, and 186 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna write it out the pressures on the coach 187 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: and the GM and what did Brad Holmes and Dan 188 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: Campbell do? They answered the belt. They coached well and 189 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: they built up a good team. So it's like Kyle 190 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: has to look at last season like that can't happen again. 191 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: You have to be much better in the red zone. 192 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: You have to be more innovative, Like you can't just well, 193 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: this works seven years. We got to change defensively. You've 194 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: already gone and got more aggressive and got Robert solid 195 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: good move. Ownership deserves credit too, because he's making you know, 196 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: rumors are right there with Fanjio, one of the highest 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: paid defensive coordinators in the NFL, if not the highest. 198 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: And now you have the eleventh pick, and this is 199 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: my issue with Kyle not being there. It's one thing 200 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: if like you had just lost the game a couple 201 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: weeks ago, it's like you're picking thirty second. Your GM 202 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: scouts can handle that. You got to figure out some 203 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: stuff you've been off since early January, Like it's pretty 204 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: important for you and every coach that was asked this 205 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: yesterday because, like I mentioned on the podcast, Grant Cone 206 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: who him and Kyle, But he's going around asking every 207 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: coach why you're here, basically running a bit, taking shots 208 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: a cop. And I would say all of them, especially 209 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: the older coaches, said it's to meet the guys, and 210 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: meeting these players is important. When you have the eleventh pick, 211 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: you could trade up a couple spots, be in pick seven, 212 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: pick eight, pick nine, you can trade back a couple 213 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: spots and go fourteen to fifteen. But like, whoever you're 214 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna pick has to be a good player. If you 215 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: want to continue winning, you have to hit on this pick. 216 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: There is no way around it. There is no like, well, 217 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: we'll keep our fingers. This has to hit if you're 218 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna sustain winning. It just has to happen. And there's 219 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure. So to me, John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, like, 220 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: that's who the pressures on. If brock Purty just keeps 221 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: playing like he's been playing, it's you know, the pre 222 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: he is what he is, and you understand that. Now 223 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: can he incrementally get better? Of course, and to me, 224 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: there was some decision making this season, which were he 225 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: can't have because he can't play like that. He is 226 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: not skilled like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes. 227 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: He has to be an elite decision maker. He has 228 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: to be a guy that doesn't make mistakes. Obviously, over 229 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: the course of the season, you're gonna make mistakes. But 230 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: in a tight game in the fourth quarter, I can't 231 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: throw a pick. When we're down five points in the 232 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I'm not allowed to throw a throw a pick. 233 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: We will lose the game. And that's what happened last season. 234 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: John Lynch also acknowledged Deebo Samuel. He is asked for 235 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: a change of scenery, start fresh, and he answered, we 236 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: plan on honoring that. So at Deebo Samuel, which all 237 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: signs pointed to. It's unofficial now will not be a 238 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: forty nine er in twenty twenty five. I think the 239 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: question mark is will they have to cut him because 240 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a guarantee that they can trade 241 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: them now. I do think there are enough teams around 242 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: the NFL with cap space that go Here's the one 243 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: thing with Debo. He has proven in big games, in 244 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: big moments to be a fucking war Daddy. Now is 245 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: he the same player that he was a couple of 246 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: years ago? Based on twenty twenty four he was not. 247 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: But if I'm a team and I want to, I 248 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: would say, bring in a winning presence, a guy who 249 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: knows what it's like to win, a guys who knows 250 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: what it's like to compete at the highest level, and 251 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: a guy who knows what's expected of a team starting 252 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: in August through late January. I do think he has 253 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: some value. Now, when I say it has some value, 254 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking a fifth or sixth round pick. And I 255 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: would wonder, based on his contract, like, has anyone given 256 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: him twenty million dollars next year? Because if he was 257 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: just cut, and what would his market be? I don't 258 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: think it would sniff that based on the way he played. 259 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: But I do think there are enough teams with cap 260 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: space who who are just trying to be not just productive, 261 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: but like instill a winning culture and listen, Deebo can 262 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: drive you nuts or whatever, but like Kyle does really 263 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: like him and still, like I was just talking to 264 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: Debo at the airport when we were flying out to 265 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Deebo really likes Kyle, like they have 266 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: a good relationship, and it's not easy to play for 267 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shannan, especially on offense at wide receiver, which you 268 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: know people think of Kyle Shannan quarterback. Actually his baby 269 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: is the wide receiver. Ask anyone around the forty nine ers, like, 270 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: it's really really difficult to get on the field as 271 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: a young wide receiver, and once you prove yourself, like 272 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: there's a high high standard a physical play in blocking. 273 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: So I do think if you're a team with some 274 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: late round picks and you have the cap space, I 275 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy to bring him on just to 276 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: show some of your young players, like, this is what 277 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: it takes and this physically is what you need to 278 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: play like if you want to win big games. Other 279 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: than that, there was another story yesterday that Brian Greasy 280 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: it looked like he had been fired and then it 281 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: was reported and I asked around. I think it's pretty clear. 282 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: One I'll never understand a guy who's really really rich, 283 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: especially a former player who gets into broadcasting where if 284 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: you're calling games, you're working once a week, right, And 285 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Brian Greasy for a long time was calling college games 286 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: and then he became for like a I think it 287 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: was a year or two. The Monday night football him 288 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: Lewis and was a Steve Levy did Monday Night football. 289 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: But you're working once a week, and you know you're 290 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: doing Monday Night football. You're making seven figs, so you're 291 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: a rich guy. And then you transition to coaching, Well, 292 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback coach, you're making decent money. Let's 293 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: just say seven hundred, eight hundred thousand dollars, so you're 294 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: a top I don't know, two percent or one percenter 295 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: in America with that job. But that's not your typical 296 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars job. You are working during the season, 297 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: I would say closer to one hundred hours than eighty. 298 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: And the one consistent theme in Matt Barrows, who covers 299 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: the Niners, was like the hours were pretty overwhelming. He 300 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: was asked to interview for the Jets job and he 301 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: turned it down, and John Lynch mentioned this today. He 302 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: thought it would be disingenuous to take a job when 303 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: he didn't plan on coaching. But I do admire anyone 304 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: who's willing to take that plunge because this guy had 305 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: been around football his whole life. Even if you don't 306 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: quite know what coaching like entails. You got a pretty 307 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: good idea and he did it for a couple of years, 308 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: made it to a super Bowl. Then he realized I'm out, 309 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: let me quit, and Mike Lombardi, who's Belichick's gm son, 310 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: will be the quarterback coach. But you know, Brian Greasy 311 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: was one of the driving forces during the draft process 312 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: for Brock Purty. He was a huge fan and it's 313 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: I think, I don't want to say the number one reason, 314 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: but it's definitely played a factor of a guy pounding 315 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: the table to draft this player. 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Even if the average fan or I would 352 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: say ninety nine point nine percent of fans can't relate 353 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: to negotiating contracts for one hundred two hundred million dollars. 354 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: We've been watching sports long enough and we understand the 355 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: push and pull of just basic things of building a team. 356 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: You can only pay so many guys. I think most 357 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: fans understand it. Sean McVay, who went on Whitworth and 358 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's podcast, was as open and candid in a situation 359 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: regarding a Super Bowl champion star quarterback who has been 360 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: a big reason the Rams post Goff I would say, 361 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: took a pretty big step and became like true yearly 362 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: super Bowl contenders because unlike him going to the Lions 363 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: and resurrecting his career, their team is not nearly as 364 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: deep or as good. And Matt Stafford at point in 365 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: time over the last couple of years, has played like 366 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: a top five quarterback and down the stretch, and and 367 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: Sean McVay mentioned this, he's five and two as the 368 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Rams quarterback in the playoffs, and those two losses last 369 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: year against the Lions and this year against the Eagles 370 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: was not Matt Stafford's fault. He played winning football. So 371 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: he played and did well enough to basically be seven 372 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: and zero. And most people are not in the business 373 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: of breaking up with those people. But as Sean McVay says, 374 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: this is complicated. They love the guy, they want him 375 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: to be their quarterback, but this is a business. And 376 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: can we afford to pay a guy who's thirty seven 377 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: years old, who I would say has a lot of 378 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: wear and tear even at his age, given how he 379 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: had the shit kicked out of him, not just with 380 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: the Rams but over the course of his career, and 381 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: who has told and McVeigh mentioned this like kind of 382 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: goes year to year. And I understand where Matt Stafford's 383 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: coming from. And you hear a lot of players like 384 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: I want respect, and I get it, but it's like, bro, 385 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: you've made three hundred and sixty million dollars. So when 386 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I see that the Giants and the Raiders are very, 387 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: very interested. And I don't blame those two teams for 388 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: being interested. If I were those two teams, as long 389 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: as I don't have to give up my first round pick, 390 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: I'd gladly give up my second round pick. Give you 391 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: a couple years, one hundred million dollars, guarantee every penny. 392 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: You are such a massive upgrade for me, and just 393 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: give me a chance to win. But if I'm Matt Stafford, 394 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave the Rams when like clearly they will 395 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: keep me. I'm just gonna have to take quote unquote 396 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: a pay cut. It's like middle coffe. It's easy for 397 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: you to say take a pay cut. Well, yeah, if 398 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: I had made three hundred and sixty million dollars, I 399 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: would be thinking about, and I'm thirty seven years old, 400 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: like how do I win another championship? That's all Brady 401 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 1: ever thought about, how do I win another championship? And 402 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: he just kept rattling them off, even Patrick Mahomes. It's 403 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: been widely reported like he took one of the great 404 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: He kind of took a hometown discount and it has 405 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: benefited the Chiefs over the years. And that's at Stafford, 406 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: who's just obsessed with like I need more money than 407 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, which we get it, you are a better player, 408 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: but it's like, Okay, you're gonna go to the fucking giants, 409 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: Like that's what you want to do, go to the giants. 410 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: And it was reported today by Jorge Schultz that Brady 411 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: took him skiing, that they hung out at the Yellowstone Club, 412 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: which I've never been would love to go to to, 413 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: where a lot of celebrities and elites like Tom Brady 414 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: are members. It's basically a year round country club. During 415 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: the summer, it's an unreal golf course. During the winner, 416 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: you have your own private ski resort. A lot of actors, actresses, 417 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: like big wigs, guys like Brady, and you know, clearly 418 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: there is some muddy water of like have the Rams 419 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: granted him the ability to meet with other people? You know, 420 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: Florio's loves this story more than anyone humanly possible? Could 421 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: that like is this tampering? Like listen, this is fucking business. 422 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: They granted him the chance to talk with other people. 423 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He probably 424 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: vacations at the Yellowstone Club too. And if you're Tom Brady, 425 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: of course you want Matt Stafford there. And if you're 426 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders, I think you would gladly give up your 427 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: second round pick and give him two years, one hundred 428 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: and ten million dollars. I don't even think you would 429 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: hesitate if you are, And listen, I'm a huge John 430 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: spytech guy. How could you not be a big fan 431 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: of Pete Carroll? Like they have real people running this organization, 432 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: but that team isn't close to good And if Matt 433 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Stafford for an extra I don't know, twenty thirty million dollars, 434 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: and listen, that's a lot of money, especially when you 435 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: factor in no state income taxes. But it's been reported 436 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: in mcphazing. I don't want him to leave, Like obviously 437 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: at the price, we can figure it out. I want 438 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: him to stay. But we got a number and we're 439 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: not budget, which I really appreciate. Like we all get it, 440 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: we all get the elephant in the room. I'm like, 441 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: the Rams aren't giving him a hundred million dollars And 442 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: even McVeigh says, like he understands that, we understand that 443 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: he's more valuable than what we're offering, but like we 444 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: can't build our team and offer him this at his age. 445 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't make business sense. It's not good business. I 446 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: give the Rams a ton of credit, like this is 447 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: our number. We're not budgeting. We not only really value you, 448 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: we love you. We know we need you to win, 449 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: but like we can't cut that price. We don't think 450 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: it's good business. And at the end of the day, 451 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: this is a business that thinks everyone's like you got 452 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: to No, you don't have to do it, even though, 453 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: like I think Matt Stafford's stut. I think he's a 454 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: hall of fame talent, but he has a chance to 455 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: meet to solidify a hall of fame career. Stay with 456 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: the Rams for a couple more years, make a couple 457 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: more NFC Championship games. No one will say anything. You 458 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: are the Raiders, definitely the Giants, and all of a 459 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: sudden you win six or seven games the last couple 460 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: of years. Well awesome, you made an extra twenty thirty 461 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: million dollars, But like you went back to her relevancy. 462 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: I just don't get it. And I appreciate McVeigh and 463 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: I also appreciate McVeigh talked about like how much he 464 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: regrets how he handled the Jared Goff situation where he 465 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: got very public of his disdain for Jared and his limitations. 466 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: It was a bad look for McVeigh, and clearly he's 467 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: not he's he's going the opposite approach here. Now it's easier. 468 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: Stafford's a better player and they won a super Bowl together. 469 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: But I think it was a bad look and McVeigh 470 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: acknowledged that, and I also think he acknowledged something else, 471 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: which I'm telling you if you get a chance. It 472 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: was just a fantastic, like thirty forty minute stretch of 473 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: McVeigh talking that he talked about a couple of years 474 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: ago when they were having that terrible season and they 475 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: didn't have their first round pick. That was the year 476 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: Stafford was hurt and the Lions were getting it ended 477 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: up beating the six pick, and a lot of rumors 478 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: that were that McVeigh wasn't just gonna quit, he was 479 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna take the Amazon job, which Amazon was gonna pay 480 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: him like fifteen sixteen million dollars. So he went from 481 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: working one hundred hour weeks to go work once a 482 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: week for probably the same money. And it's not like 483 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: he was flying Southwest. He would fly a private jet 484 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: everywhere he went. It would be a very very cushy 485 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: job that paid a premium and would still get to 486 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: kind of wet his beak talking football, being around football, 487 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: interacting with football guys, and within three or four years 488 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: he could easily transition back. And he essentially said like 489 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: I kind of look myself in the mirror and be like, 490 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: don't be a pussy. You don't get to just lose 491 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: and run. And he was about to have a son, 492 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: and he said, like, how could I look my son 493 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: in the eye and say times got tough? Because losing 494 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: was hard on Sean. It clearly was. It's why he 495 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: wanted to tap out. It's I'm not doing it, and 496 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: he didn't. And I think the NFL is better off 497 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: for it that he stayed in coaching. And obviously the 498 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: rams are I watched the thing and think Sean McVay 499 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: is just I mean, I already thought it just an 500 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: absolute stud. Okay, Aaron Rodgers. I was talking to a 501 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: buddy the other day who lives in the Bay Area, 502 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: a very good friend, and he's in the tech world 503 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: and some of these companies. When I graduated, and I've 504 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: told this story before in two thousand and eight, probably 505 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: should have graduated in two thousand and seven, but a 506 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: lot of people I went to college with graduated from 507 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven to two thousand and nine range, 508 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: and the tech boom Silicon Valley was really taking off 509 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: like a rocket ship at that point in time. Now 510 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: the country was about to go into this financial and 511 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: in a financial recession, but that area was kind of 512 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: loading up like a rocket ship and shooting right to 513 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: the moon. So I knew a lot of people, some 514 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: of them friends, some of them just acquaintances that got 515 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: jobs at these companies pretty early on. So like they 516 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: were like employee five at Facebook, but they were in 517 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: quote unquote early and so when you look fifteen eighteen 518 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: years later, some of these people are these are w 519 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: two employees in the Bay Area making on the low 520 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: end five hundred grand and some of these people were 521 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: making over seven figures. Well, I heard some stories about layoffs, 522 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: and obviously as these companies are trimming down, whether it 523 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: be Facebook or you nave an oracle, and well who 524 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: they come after first, Like, wait, we pay you nine 525 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars, it's kind of doge, I mean, 526 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: it's that's that's why doge is it's you know, business 527 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: people are doing it right. That's how businesses think, like 528 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: do we need you? What type revenue do you generate? 529 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: And I heard these stories about like two or three 530 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: people getting fired that we're making a ton of money. 531 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: And I asked my buddy, I said, what are they 532 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: gonna do? How is that person even though they get 533 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: a severance for I don't know, six months, nine months, 534 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: how are they ever gonna find a job that pays 535 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: that again? And he's like, they're not. They're completely fucked. 536 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean one person was like an HR director. It's 537 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: like another word was a recruiter. It's like, well, in 538 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: a year, AI could be doing all this, like you're 539 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: in major trouble and it's gonna be a It's not 540 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: humbling now because you get a huge severance, you're living 541 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: pretty well, but in six months it could be extremely 542 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: enlightening to some of these people what is actually out 543 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: there at the price points that they're used to being paid. 544 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: And it kind of made me think of Aaron Rodgers 545 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: because for a long time, Aaron Rodgers was just viewed 546 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: as like one of the great players of all the time. 547 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: He was viewed as a quarterback that every single team 548 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: beside the team that had Tom Brady or maybe Peyton 549 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: Manning in their prime would have kicked their quarterback to 550 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: the curb and taken Aaron Rodgers in a New York minute. 551 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: And listen, I do believe this. He's one of the 552 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: best players I have ever seen. But then you age 553 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: and things get weird, and now all of a sudden, 554 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: there are reports of Aaron Rodgers reaching out to teams. 555 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: People will probably forget this, but Peyton Manning won the 556 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the Denver Broncos in twenty sixteen. His 557 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: arm looked like minor years. He could barely throw, and 558 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: he had had his neck issues again, and he had 559 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: just been banged up going back to Indy. They felt 560 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: like it was cropping back up, and you know, his 561 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: body was betraying him. But he didn't want to retire, 562 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: and he started reaching out to teams. You know, there 563 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: were reports that summer and seeing if anyone was interested, 564 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: and no one was. Now, Aaron Rodgers is better right now, 565 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: in early or late February twenty twenty five than that 566 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: version of Peyton Manning, but people are not lined up 567 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: for him. He is a second choice. A third choice. 568 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: He is not choice number one. He is not on 569 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: a free agency board. The guy with the top sticker 570 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, which is you know, crazy because for a 571 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: long period of time, Matt Stafford was viewed as like 572 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: the poor man's Aaron Rodgers, all kind of poor man's 573 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: Brett Farv. But is now every team that is interested 574 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: in a quarterback are discussing Matt Stafford before Aaron Rodgers. 575 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: And I mentioned this to Colin the other day, and 576 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people say that if the Rams and 577 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford aren't able to figure it out, that Aaron 578 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: Rodgers would be the replacement. I do think there's a 579 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: dramatic difference between the two players. And even McVeigh talked 580 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: about this, and this was a Greg co cell way 581 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: to describe a quarterback sitting in the pocket, staring down 582 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: the gun barrel and delivering a strike aka throwing the 583 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: ball and completing a pass to a wide receiver as 584 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: you are about to get destroyed by a defensive lineman 585 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: or a linebacker. Aaron Rodgers will not do that anymore. 586 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady the last year would not do that anymore. 587 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. One of the things he hangs his hat 588 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: on still as a player is the ability to do that. 589 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: And to me, that with a great player is typically 590 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: like you get to a point, you become so rich, 591 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: and you get older, and let's face it, I mean 592 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: your injuries don't go away as quick and pains hurt 593 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more. You don't want to get hit 594 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: like that if you can't avoid it. And Matt Stafford 595 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: still has no problem sitting in there. I would say 596 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: the best in the league, right. I mean, Joe Burr 597 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: is elite at that. Now, that's why he takes a 598 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: lot of hits because he will sit in there to 599 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: the last possible second. It ended Andrew Luck's career early 600 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: because he refused to not stay there the last possible 601 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: second for the guy to get an extra step and 602 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: get open. And it's a quality that separates the men 603 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: from the boys at the highest level. And I think 604 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: there would be a dramatic drop off. Now. I understand 605 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: if you get Stafford. You know, if Stafford's cost you 606 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: fifty five million, you get Aaron Rodgers for twelve, and 607 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: you get draft picks, like you got a factor in 608 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: a lot of things. But there would be a major 609 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: dip at the quarterback position. When you just factor in 610 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: plays like that, and that might just be a couple 611 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: throws a game over the course of a season, it 612 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: might not be. It's not like it's one hundred, but 613 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: it's enough in big spots in the second half of 614 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: ti games. That's the difference of winning and losing. So 615 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: if you're a ten to eleven win team, it's easy 616 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: to go to eight nine wins because he's not willing 617 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: to do that, and Rogers used to be willing and 618 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: definitely at the cap ability to like get rid of 619 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: it fast enough to avoid like those days are over 620 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: and we saw it. The Saints. Mickey Loomis said today 621 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: that he believes we could win with Derek Carr, and 622 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: if they keep Derek Carr this year, he will make 623 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: forty million dollars. 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Smell fresher, stay dryer, and 678 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: boost your confidence from head to toe with Mando. I 679 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: saw this story today. I'm not going to break down 680 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: the nfl PA grades about most of the coaches. Actually, 681 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: I mean I felt like ninety percent of the league 682 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: got an A or B at coach. So if you 683 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: didn't like I saw Stefanski, gotta see Doug Peterson's gotta 684 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: see some guys got the The Patriots got a bad 685 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: grade for your owner to Woody Johnson received an F. 686 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: This is all the teams. The NFLPA gives out a 687 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: survey and I don't exactly know how it's administered. I 688 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: think it's during the season and players just give you 689 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: a letter grade and the Jets and Woody Johnson he 690 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: got an F. Woody Johnson got an F. Guys like 691 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft, Michael Bidwell, the Rooneyes, David Tepper all got 692 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: d's and D minuses. I do think it's pretty embarrassing 693 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: if you're an owner, you don't talk to the team. Really. 694 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: Your name, I guess is a signature on the check. 695 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: But all these guys get direct deposits. You don't really 696 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: even interact with the players that often for you to 697 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: get an F even a D, that's pretty bad. I 698 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: don't really have like some hot taked How's that even possible? 699 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: You are paying, like if you're the Roonies, think how 700 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: many guys on that team you are paying a ton 701 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: of money to? You just think like, hey, just like 702 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: him now. I saw Albert Breer say he thinks a 703 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: lot of it's tied to some of these franchises have 704 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: like old facilities, and these guys come from college. You know, 705 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: if you come from LSU or Again or Texas or whatever, 706 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: you're used to a nice facility. I don't know if 707 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: it's just that, and maybe it is, But if I'm 708 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: Woody Johnson and go I got an F, like the 709 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: Jets have a nice facility. It's not like forty years old. 710 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: I think they built it in like twenty eleven or 711 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: ten or thirteen, or it's it's I think less than 712 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years old. And Woody Johnson got an f How 713 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 1: often has like a Sauce Gardner or Garrett Wilson or 714 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: Breese Hall talk to Woody Johnson over the last couple 715 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: of years. If I had to guess it, I'd probably 716 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: go under ten. Maybe on the high end. Some of 717 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: these guys under twenty. Man sucks for these guys. Okay, 718 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Chasing Challenges, brought to you by Microsoft. In 719 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. Just like the business world, overcoming obstacles is 720 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: the key to success. Microsoft empowers business decision makers with 721 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: AI solutions, simplified cloud data and data management, with trustworthy, 722 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: responsible technology to turn challenges into opportunities. In this segment, 723 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: we'll explore some of the biggest challenges being faced in 724 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: the NFL and how they can be overcome. Whatever challenges 725 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: you're facing, Microsoft empowers you with the expertise to say 726 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: bring it on. This week, we're discussing the challenge face 727 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: by all these NFL teams. Like I said, I do 728 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: believe it's very very valuable for the head coach, for 729 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: the GM, for the coordinators, for your high level scouting 730 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: execs to not only be around guys that you're going 731 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: to draft really high, but interact with them, get to 732 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: know him, ask him any questions you may have on 733 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: or off the field. I do think you have to 734 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: be very very careful, though, to not overvalue a negative interaction, 735 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: something that for whatever reason doesn't go well, or the 736 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: opposite an interaction that is just incredible and you fall 737 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: in love in a twenty minute speed date. Because when 738 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: you're going to draft a guy in the first round, 739 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: especially some of these teams right that are drafting really 740 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: really high, you're investing very very valuable draft equity and 741 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: draft capital into this individual. And if you hit, you 742 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: get a star at a relatively cheap price. Even if 743 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: you draft him in the top five, they're making six 744 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: to seven eight million dollars a year. Well, if he's 745 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: a pro bowler, it's an incredible deal. But I do think, 746 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: let's let's face it, interviewing any person in any line 747 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: of work, and people listening to this or watching this 748 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: are in all sorts of industries, it's hard you're dealing 749 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: with human beings, But when you're dealing with a young 750 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: person in a situation like this where there is millions 751 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: of dollars on the line, not only you're going to 752 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: try to be on your best behavior, but you might 753 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: not act how you would normally act. Now, Scouts and 754 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: people through that work for the NFL teams have gone 755 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: through the school and accumulated information. But if the information 756 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: you have says this guy's not a great guy, and 757 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: then you meet him and it's like he's not his 758 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: best behavior, I kind of like this guy. We're all 759 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: like that. How many times in life do you hear 760 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: a story about someone like my buddy hates this guy, 761 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: said he's just a bad human, and then you meet 762 00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: him at a business function, at a social setting. I 763 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: kind of like this guy. I mean, I really enjoyed. 764 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: We had a beer together and it was very enjoyable. 765 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: It's no different at the scouting combine that it's like, well, 766 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: my scouts are crushing him. I talked to him in 767 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: the private meeting we had with him. I saw him 768 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: in the hallway, I saw him again at lunch. I 769 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: was like, this guy's growing on me, and I think 770 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: You've got to take everything at the combine in terms 771 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: of personal interaction when it comes to these college guys, 772 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: very very carefully, because we always get into this once 773 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: the season starts, like well this guy can't play well, 774 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he was average on tape, or it's 775 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 1: like god, how did this guy fall to the third round? 776 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: It's like, well, his tape was good. And it's no 777 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: different with physical characteristics. Some people aren't gonna look as 778 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: good as others. Some people are going to look incredible. 779 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: Just because you look like Trent Williams right or Jalen 780 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: Carter or some of these great players doesn't mean you 781 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: play like them, and that that's the problem at the 782 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: combine is no football is actually being played. It's all 783 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: in shorts, t shirts. Everyone's on their best behavior, everyone's 784 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: got a smile, and sometimes a guy that's a high character, 785 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: great guy can be exhausted. They have been there for days. 786 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: They're getting up at the crack of dawn every day, 787 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: getting taken to medical p tests, NFLPA all over. You're 788 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: just exhausted. Your season ended, especially if you're on a 789 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: decent team. Early January, you went right to training somewhere 790 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: where you don't live in Arizona and Texas and Vegas 791 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: and Florida. You've been grinding, you've been away from your 792 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: family and friends, You've been with people you don't really 793 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: know that well, she's got a lot going on. So 794 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: I just think overall, you got to be very very 795 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: careful in these situations to make any just judgments in 796 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: your head or about an individual as a group that 797 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: might be off. I would just say, be very very 798 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: open minded with everything. So that's it for this week's 799 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: Chasing challenges. Remember Microsoft's AI solutions empower you to take 800 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: bold steps and make informed decisions, sparking new ideas to 801 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: help drive your business forward. With Microsoft as your trusted partner, 802 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: you can navigate your journey with confidence, finding innovative solutions, 803 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: and reaching new possibilities. Visit Microsoft dot com Slash challengers 804 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: to learn more. 805 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 3: The volume