1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: They knew the Cubs offense would be better with Tucker. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: How could it not be? But the transformation has been 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of astounding. They're leading the National League and run scored. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: He's a big part of that. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: That's at the inside scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: I listened to Fair Territory this morning, and you gave 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: us like a little taste of your article about managers 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: that could be on the hot seat this season. We're 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: going to dive into a few of those if we may, 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: and I want to start with the Saint Louis Cardinals 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: because if Aj didn't read your article, I think he 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: might be surprised to hear about your plan for what 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: could happen or your theory for what could happen with 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: the Cardinals if Ali Marmle ends up losing his job. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: So do you I'll queue you up on this one, Ken, 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: Do you think that Marmel could actually stay with the 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: organization if Skip Schumacher took over. 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: I do, And obviously it would be an unusual situation 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: and he might not want to stay, but he and 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Schumacher are close, and if you remember, Schumacher was on 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: his staff in twenty twenty one his first staff. So 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: if they make a change, and I am assuming they will, obviously, 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: if they have a great year, things might change. But 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: they're going to have a new head of baseball operations, 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Heim Bloom. He's going to take over for John Mozelok, 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: and generally speaking, a new head of baseball operations wants 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: his own person in there. What's also interesting about the 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals is you've got two former Cardinals greats, and I 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: mean greats, future Hall of famers who want to manage 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: in the big leagues. I'm talking about Yadier Molayna and 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: Albert Poohols. I don't know how you choose between them. 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: If you choose between them, So from that perspective, maybe 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Skip Schumacher is kind of a compromise candidate. Even though 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: he's not an all time Cardinal great, he was a Cardinal, 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: he was on their coaching staff, and certainly as a 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: former National League Manager of the Year, he is someone 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: who will have great appeal to any team making a change. 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: Forward. You forgot about another cardinal grade he s you 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: should throw on that list at him, chical Ken. 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I did forget that one? 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the one I'm talking to me. Yeah, talking about 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: we'll talk Olia definitely stay on my staff because we 43 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: went to the same high school. Ken. I don't know 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: if you knew that or not, but I don't know that. 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I think Ollie would stay. I know 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: I do, because he's been a cardinal like his whole life. Right, 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: It's kind of like Shilt. It's like Brian Snicker, like, 48 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: there's certain guys until Shilt got the job and then 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: they fired him, and then he obviously left and went 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: on the bigger and better things with San Diego. But 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 3: I just think Olly doesn't know anything else, and there's 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: certain people that are just meant to look at descalso 53 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: coming back, right, John Jay coming back. I think Olie 54 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: Marmel would seriously think about. I don't know if he 55 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: would be on if it was Schumacher's staff, but I 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: think he would definitely probably stay in the organization in 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: some capacity if they wanted him to. 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: It's an interesting question, and again it's hypothetical, as these 59 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: discussions always are. Who knows which way the season might turn, 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: who knows what Heim Blue might have in mind. He 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: might have somebody else that we're not even talking about 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: in mind to be the next manager. Maybe he wants 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: Ali Marmel to be as next manager. 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, but it just. 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: Seems to me that logically speaking, we know when a 66 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: new guy takes over in any business, in any walk 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: of life, wants their own people. That's what new people want. 68 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 5: Okay, I have a question Ken about two of the 69 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: other guys you mentioned in your piece, and they're on 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 5: they managed for teams that really haven't seen much success 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: with them at the Helm, but they've been there for 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 5: a while. That's Bud Black and that's Derek Shelton you 73 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: mentioned with new heads of you know, maybe president basement 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: operations coming in, usually they want their own guys. So 75 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 5: if these two guys are on the hot seat having 76 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 5: been you know, at the Helm for some teams that 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 5: have not been good for a while, what do you 78 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 5: think do you think that is a they might bring 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 5: in a top down This could be a top down 80 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 5: thing or could they it just be like they hit 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 5: the threshold for not being able to to win win 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 5: in the games, want to go with somebody. 83 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: Else, Trevor. 84 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: You know this, anytime a new president of baseball ops 85 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: or new general manager comes in, they usually give the 86 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: manager a little bit of time now, Jim's been there. 87 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: This is a second year with the Cords. We've seen 88 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Olie for two years now, right. But if somebody comes in, 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: whether it's in Pittsburgh or whether it's somewhere else, they 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: usually give them a little bit of time. Now, if 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: the manager is a free agent or at the end 92 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: of his contract, then all bets are all. But normally 93 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 3: they give them a little bit of time to assess, 94 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: and they'll fire him in the first year and be like, eh, 95 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: kick Rocks. 96 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 4: I don't know Ken, your thoughts got it. 97 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: First of all, Age, I heard your mock imitation of me. 98 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 5: It was weak. 99 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: Trevor. 100 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure which teams you were asking about, so 101 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: I thought maybe you mentioned Pittsburgh was one. 102 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh and Colorado. 103 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, there are two teams that operate a 104 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: little bit differently. I'll put that as politely as I can. 105 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: Colorado in particular, they seem to be in their own 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: parallel universe to the rest of the sport. Bill Schmid 107 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: took over just a couple of years ago. I don't 108 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: expect that he would be in trouble. And but Black, 109 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: as I wrote, is one of the most respected people 110 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: in the game and everybody likes him there. No one 111 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: wants to embarrass him or anything like that. But it's 112 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: fair to ask whether it's time for a new voice, 113 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: fresher voice for those younger players that they're kind of 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: bringing into the mixiere and I mentioned the third base 115 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: coach Warren Schaefer, who managed some of these guys in 116 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: the minor leagues and certainly would be that kind of profile. 117 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: He would be a rocky internal higher They love that 118 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: kind of thing there. They don't like to go outside 119 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Heaven forbid. So that's one thought. Pittsburgh is a little 120 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: bit more complicated in my view. The owner, Bob Nutting, 121 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: has said that he expects better results. He said that 122 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: before last season, he said it before this season. It's 123 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: the sixth year for the general manager Ben Sherrington and 124 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: the manager Derek Shelton. They're not getting better results now. 125 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: The number one reason for that, in my opinion, is 126 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: the owner and his unwillingness to fund the team the 127 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: way he should major league payroll. But at the same time, 128 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: if he is expecting results and quote unquote demanding results 129 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: and they're not being produced that way, then it stands 130 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: the reason he could make a change. 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: Maybe it's just. 132 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Sherrington, Maybe it's just Shelton. More likely it would be 133 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: the manager before the general manager. 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They've yet to lose it home, and I'm 165 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: surprised a little bit by them because obviously they didn't 166 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: have have a very active offseason. They still have great players. 167 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Of course, Tatist is playing out of his mind right now, 168 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: but they have pitched extremely well. The back end of 169 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 1: their bullpen's really good. So, if I had to choose, 170 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: maybe it's a recentcy biased because I watched them come 171 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: back on the Cubs last night, but I'll go with 172 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: the Padres. 173 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: Okay, And then how do you judge that because we 174 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: have this argument all the time with Scott like run 175 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: differential eyes, your eyes player wise, how do you, Ken Rosendald, 176 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: judge in your opinion who you think is the best team. 177 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: And let's say your power rankings right now, because I 178 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: need help with my power rankings. 179 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's not run differential, and I heard your discussion 180 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: about this. This early in the season, especially, run differential 181 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: is essentially meaningless. The Cubs won by sixteen the other day, 182 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: the Rays one by fourteen or fifteen yesterday. That skews 183 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: run differential. It makes it impossible to judge at this 184 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: point in the season by that. If at any point 185 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,239 Speaker 1: in this season, I kind of judge it by obviously 186 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: a team performance record and look at kind of how 187 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: they're playing. Some teams are not producing a great record yet, 188 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: but you know they're better than they are. I think 189 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Boston is better than they've shown, right, But in sheer performance, 190 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: you have to look at the Padres, you have to 191 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: look at the Giants the way they're playing, and those 192 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: teams right now do look like the best teams in baseball. 193 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure really there's anyone close. The Dodgers 194 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: obviously started really well, went through his slide, and now 195 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: after last night, perhaps they rally again. They're going to 196 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: be really good. 197 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 4: We all know that. 198 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: But right now, the best team in baseball, especially at 199 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: pet Goo Park where they're undefeated, that's San Diego. 200 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: Okay. And then last thing, who did you pick to 201 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: win the American League? 202 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: Who did I pick? 203 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: I picked the Texas Rangers, who have not hit a lick. 204 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So I picked the Red Sox. They're doomed. I 205 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: picked the Braves. You pick the Braves, so I know 206 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 3: they're doomed. How do we can we change our picks? 207 00:09:58,559 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: Ay? 208 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: J We could do whatever we want. Frequent I just 209 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: tend to forget my picks. And yeah, no one is 210 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: embarrassing me at the end of the year. 211 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: But that's reality. 212 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: I was going to say, Ken chooses to maybe, yeah, 213 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: you forget about him that. I know that's not your 214 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: favorite thing, predictions. Ken, So let me get back to 215 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: some business and some news here. 216 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: What those are fun questions for Ken? 217 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: I agree? 218 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: Okay, but factor fiction, Ken, you hate predicting. That's fact, 219 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: That's all it's people want to know Ken. 220 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: Ken doesn't know. 221 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: The reason is I always say, Scott, you know what 222 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: I always say. I repeat this all the time. Tell 223 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: me who's gonna get hurt? Tell me who's going to 224 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: get traded, and I'll do a much better job predicting, 225 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: But you can't tell me those things. I don't know 226 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. No one does, and that's the 227 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: beauty of the game. So we all have fun with predictions, 228 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: of course, but I don't ever pretend mine or any 229 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: better than anybody else's. 230 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 7: Don't worry fam to tell us who's getting traded, though 231 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 7: he's the insider. 232 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: Well, baseball come alive. 233 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: Well true, Well, then let's ask him about that. Do 234 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: you think that Sandy al Contra could be the first 235 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: guy traded here? 236 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 4: Or do I know? 237 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: Will Salmon wrote about this in The Athletic in the 238 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 2: past twenty four hours, and do you think or the 239 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: Marlins are gonna let this one simmer for a little bit? 240 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: Good question. The difference, as Will Rope, between Alcntra and 241 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: some of the other players they've traded in recent years arise, 242 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: most notably, is that he has more years of control left, 243 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: so they might be hesitant to move him and thinking, well, 244 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: we can keep him as long as we possibly can 245 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: drive the price up. We have the years of control, 246 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: so we don't have to do anything. We all know 247 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the Marlins are going to do this. I don't think 248 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: there's any secret about that. It's just a matter of when. 249 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Could it be the first one traded? Yes, But I 250 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: also believe teams are going to want to see more. 251 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: They're going to want to see him keep pitching. He's 252 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: coming off Tommy John surgery, of course, and they don't 253 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: want to base this off a handful of I don't know, 254 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: six seven starts, whatever the case might be. There needs 255 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: to be more of a body of work for teams 256 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: to be convinced that he's back to where he was. 257 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: He's looked good so far, but a little inconsistent, So 258 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: I expect him to be traded. I just don't know 259 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: that it'll be that early. 260 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 5: I want to check in a little bit on a 261 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 5: lot of the things that happened in the offseason that 262 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: we had, all the free agents signs, all the trades 263 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 5: and stuff. In my opinion, I want to get your 264 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 5: take on this. Kyle Tucker going to the Cubs was 265 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 5: one of the best moves at the time, and I 266 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: think it's played out that way to maybe be the 267 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 5: most valuable moving player. Would you agree with that sentiment 268 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 5: or is there another maybe signing that you think has 269 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 5: worked out even better for another team. 270 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Actually, Trevor, that trade looks like it's great for both 271 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: and Kyle Tucker has transformed the Cubs. And as I mentioned, 272 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: I was watching that game last night. I don't remember 273 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: if it was Boo Shambi or Rick Suckliff who said it, 274 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: but what they said was they knew the Cubs off 275 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: would be better with Tucker. How can it not be? 276 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: But the transformation has been kind of astounding. They're leading 277 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: the National League and run scored. He's a big part 278 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: of that. He's playing at an MVP level. So are 279 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: a lot of other guys in the National League right now, Tatiz, 280 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: a few others, but he has been monumental to that 281 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: team thus far. Now, what I was going to say 282 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: about the rest of the trade is that Cam Smith 283 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be a star for Houston. 284 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: Hayden Weistnski has pitched well for the Astros as well, 285 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: and you guys talked about parades. So it looks like 286 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: one of those deals that's really good for both. But yes, 287 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Tucker has been that important an addition, and it kind 288 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: of shows you, guys, how one player You can't value 289 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: him for his statistics alone. You have to value him 290 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: for what he brings to a lineup and how he 291 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: can transform a lineup. And that's what Tucker has done. 292 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: It's been kind of a multiplier with what he has 293 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: accomplished so far in that it's extended to the rest 294 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: of the team. 295 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: Ken, Chris Bryant went on the IL with degenerative disc 296 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: degeneration something I forget with the triple D, what was it, 297 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: degenerative disc? I don't know. I don't forget what the 298 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: third D was. But is this career threatening for him? 299 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: I know, since he's gone to Colorado, he hasn't been 300 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: what we thought he was gonna be for his career, 301 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: But is this something that could possibly be career threatening 302 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: for Chris Bryant? 303 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: And it's disease, Ken, Sorry, just to throw into degenerative 304 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: disc disease in his lower back go ahead. 305 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: When I saw that, that was my initial thought. Wow, 306 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: that sounds really bad. But reading the accounts this morning 307 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: from the Rockies beat writers, it sounds like the Rockies 308 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: expect him back in relatively short order, that this is 309 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: something he has dealt with. He's had back issues for 310 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: a while my understanding is it's multiple discs and certainly, 311 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: as you guys know, I don't have to tell you, 312 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: playing in that condition is really difficult. But it does 313 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: not sound, to answer your question, AJ like its career threatening. Obviously, 314 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: it's debilitating to him. It's tough on him, I'm sure 315 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: mentally as well as physically. 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Thoughts on this and does this make you 349 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: happy as a Met fan after you signed him to 350 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: a seven hundred and sixty five million dollar contract. 351 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: I did see the quotes. I understand why people might 352 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: be upset to read that. In my view, he was 353 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: speaking matter of factly. He was just saying, I'm getting 354 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: pitched differently, I don't have that guy Aaron Judge behind 355 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: me anymore, even though he's got the best hitter in 356 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: the game right now, Peter a Lonzo hitting behind him. 357 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: He was just noting that it's different from him. I 358 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: didn't take it as complaining. I didn't take and his regrets. 359 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: I just thought it was kind of a matter of 360 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: fact statement. And it's true he is getting pitched differently. 361 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: So I'm sure this will be quite the topic of 362 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: discussion in New York. 363 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that it should be Oh yeah, 364 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: this is great, right to. 365 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 3: Kill the lead? Ken to kill the lead on New 366 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: York radio? 367 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 4: What do you think? Do you think this was a 368 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: big deal? 369 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: I just think it's interesting that he says this. 370 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you're Pete. Tell us the players. 371 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 3: Listen if I'm Pete. I know I'm not Aaron Judge, 372 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: but I'm just like, dude, you just signed the biggest 373 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: contract of all time. 374 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 7: You're supposed to be that guy you want, so, you're 375 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 7: supposed to be the best dinner in baseball. You just 376 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 7: signed the biggest contract of all time. Like, why shouldn't 377 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 7: matter who's in front of you behind you think Barry 378 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 7: Bond's cared only think it matter for Barry Bonds was 379 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 7: he got pitched differently with the guy behind him, but 380 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 7: he always said the. 381 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: Guy in front of him was more important because there 382 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: was a guy at first, they wouldn't walk him. 383 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: One other thing here, aj As a reporter, we always 384 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: want players to be transparent and honest and talk about 385 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: what they're feeling, and then at times this kind of 386 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: thing happens and we crush them for being what we 387 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: asked them to be. I never think that's entirely fair, 388 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: and I certainly understand why people might think he should 389 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: have kept that to himself. In fact, John Hayman wrote 390 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: that in The New York Post, it's fine to think 391 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: what he's thinking, but he should have kept it to himself. 392 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: I agree, But I also don't think reporters should ever 393 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: be telling players don't talk. So here's a guy who talked, 394 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: who was honest, or at least in his view, he 395 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: was honest, and it seems to me it would be 396 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: a little unfair to crush him for that. 397 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not crushing him. I love listen, I 398 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: love the honesty from player. I'm not crushing him at all. 399 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking what I was thinking if I was 400 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 3: Peter Alonzo, I'm like, dude, you're supposed to be just 401 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: signed you for seven hundred and sixty five million here, 402 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: that's supposed to be you. Dude. 403 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: If I'm Peter Alonzo, I'm raising my eyebrows. Put it 404 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: that way. But at the same time, they're performing really well. 405 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: For the most part. He's doing fine. He's not doing 406 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: like amazing, but he's fine on basis four hundred. So 407 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: to me, this is a much ado about nothing for 408 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: the most. 409 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: Part, except in New York, Trevor, except in New York. 410 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: Accept in New. 411 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 5: York, except in New York exactly. 412 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: Well, Petez off to a great start, by the way. 413 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 4: Check out his numbers. 414 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 2: Ken, thank you, great convo. We'll catch you on Fair 415 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: Territory on Thursday. Thanks guys, thank you. Fair Territory Live 416 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: every Thursday. Para Territory of course, also just came out 417 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: yesterday if you want to check that out. Lots of 418 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: topics hit, including Ken's perspective on trout versus the fan 419 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: over the weekend. We didn't ask him because he already 420 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: talked about it, So check out the show later on. 421 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: Wherever you get your shows or your pods. 422 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: Let's go in the weeds. 423 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: Jason Stark wrote an article that came out over the 424 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 2: weekend about the Atlantic League, which is really the test 425 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: league these days, the Independent Atlantic League. They experiment one 426 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: of the they're going to do this year that starts 427 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: soon April twenty fifth, QR codes on baseballs. So if 428 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: you're a fan and you end up with the baseball, 429 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: you can smack that QR code and maybe get something 430 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: fun out of it. It's almost like a giveaway fifty 431 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: percent off tickets. He was putting some examples for a 432 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: future game, free parking, other ballpark perks, food discounts, free stuff, 433 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: et cetera. Trevor, you're a pretty big tech guy. What 434 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: do you think about a QR code on a baseball? 435 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: Love it? Love it? 436 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 5: One of the best uses of QR codes there is, 437 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 5: in my opinion. I mean, you get a ball and 438 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 5: then there's some some other like randomized thing in there. 439 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 5: I mean, that's cool, and I think it's smart for 440 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 5: Independent league and even minor league teams if they wanted 441 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 5: to do it, like to get people to come back 442 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 5: and make it like a regular thing. They're always trying 443 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 5: to find ways to get butts and seats in the 444 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: smaller you know, smaller parks, So I'm all for it. 445 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 5: And then it just like it's completely open ended, like 446 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 5: every team could do different stuff. You could have like 447 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 5: games that are like I have really high value stuff 448 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 5: if you want to, like last game of the season, 449 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: it's fan appreciation night, and like the prizes are crazy good, right. 450 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 5: I think it's a great idea, And I think it 451 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 5: adds even a little bit more excitement around going and 452 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: running after a foul ball for the kids because there 453 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 5: might be some like candy or something involved. And I 454 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 5: knew when I was a kid and watching Little league game, 455 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 5: I would always run for the balls because we get 456 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 5: a snow cone if I turn it in. So yeah, 457 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 5: bring that back, bringing that to independent ball. 458 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, that's playing to your audience too. 459 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: If you're trying to attract younger fans, they would be 460 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: into that because you get the ball and then you 461 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: also get to find out. 462 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 4: It's almost like. 463 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: Opening up a pack, right, what's behind this particular baseball? 464 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: As long as the prize isn't too good, because then 465 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: people might be fighting each other with the foul ball. 466 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: True they already do anyways, True, what do you think 467 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: you like this, right, I like it to do stuff. 468 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't do anything wrong. 469 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: Oh, if it's a way to give away tickets or 470 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: at a zero cleats that are flowery with flower bottoms, 471 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 3: and there's reliant and super fun and super cool, I mean, 472 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I think this is a way 473 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 3: to grow the game. I'm all about growing the game 474 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: and make people more engaged in the game. I don't 475 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: want people to fight over baseballs. 476 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 4: Sure, but the already do. You're right they do anyways. 477 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy fought Mike Trout for one the other day. 478 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: True right, it's Mike QR. Could well you win a 479 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: meeting with me in the tunnel? 480 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: See true? No, I think it's really cool. 481 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: I didn't ever hear about that until Jason brought it 482 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: up in the article. But it makes a lot of sense. 483 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: I'd be curious if there's someone that doesn't like that. 484 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: There's always I'm curious. Don't touch the baseballs. I want 485 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 4: them to look the way they did in the agent. 486 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: Do they travel different when they went from Bud Seeler 487 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: to Rob Manford's signature on them, that's different? More inc 488 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: lass ink yep. It changed them from national League and 489 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: American League to just Major League Baseball. There's more ink. 490 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: Some people don't like change, but anyway, I think it's cool. 491 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: That was a pretty easy one to cover. We all 492 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: agree it's awesome.