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Speaker 1: next sixty minutes. Two zero one nine four five one three.

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Speaker 1: That is the telephone number hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna cover three different teams today, so a lot

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Speaker 1: on our plate will get to Auburn, Virginia Tech as

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Speaker 1: well as the University of Washington. We're gonna hit on

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Speaker 1: all of their notable prospects with three special guests, so

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Speaker 1: that will be coming up shortly. However, yesterday was the

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Speaker 1: first day in which the Giants came back to the

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Speaker 1: facility they reported for the start of the offseason workout program.

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Speaker 1: It's a nine week workout program. This is phase one, Paul,

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Speaker 1: and it's important to highlight once again in the c

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Speaker 1: very carefully regulated by the CBA. We are strictly talking

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Speaker 1: But that's what this is all about right now. And

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Speaker 1: at on the field. But that's not not today. Things

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Speaker 1: more on that in a little bit. Right now, we're

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Speaker 1: will be drafted later this month. And we are joined

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Speaker 1: very now right now by very special guest in that

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Speaker 1: his former Auburn quarterback, former Giants backup quarterback Stan White,

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Speaker 1: who is the radio analysts for the Auburn Radio Networks. Stan,

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Speaker 1: you got Lance Medal Paul Detino with here Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time. How's everything, My pleasure, guys. Things are

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Speaker 1: great down here. How are you guys? I'll tell you why,

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Speaker 1: standard and the c b A and everything. The way

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah it's changed a little bit over the

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Speaker 1: my giants and uh really a huge fan and try

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Speaker 1: the c b A got a little thicker over the

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Speaker 1: start with the Auburn prospects, and the one of note

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Speaker 1: The one thing that jumps out to me, Stan, is

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Speaker 1: And normally NFL scouts they get enamored with, Well are

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Speaker 1: the one thing that they they asked Carlton to do

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Speaker 1: he's certainly got a chance to be a very good player. Stan.

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Speaker 1: him a system. Uh, you can have a pretty good

430
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 1: guy for a long time in the NFL. Now, as

431
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: he goes into the pro ranks, do you see him

432
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 1: better suited to a three four or four three. A

433
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: lot of scouts have said to me they think he's

434
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: going to be an outside linebacker. But let's face it,

435
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 1: at two fifty something pounds, uh, you know, that's that's

436
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: a little big to be an outside guy. A lot

437
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 1: of folks want that sturdy body on the inside. Yeah.

438
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: I think that's sort of part of the draw him two,

439
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: as he can play both of those spots. I think

440
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 1: he's got a pass rushing capability that maybe hasn't been

441
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: tapped into that munch Virginia Tech had him do a

442
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: little bit of that and he got to the quarterback

443
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 1: on a couple of occasions, but he wasn't really sort

444
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: of unleashed as a full four sort of path rushing guy.

445
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: So I think he's got that capability, which is why

446
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: I think like an outside linebacker type, uh in whatever

447
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: scheme they want to play him in might be his

448
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: his long term home. But you know, talking to some

449
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: of these draft experts and stuff leading up to this thing,

450
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things I hear about him as though

451
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: he could play inside or outside. That kind of adds

452
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 1: to his value. How high have you been hearing it

453
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: in terms of where he may land and what potential

454
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: teams are interested in it? You know, I've I've heard

455
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: mostly sort of in that ten to twelve range. I think.

456
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: I think there's always gonna be sort of a limit

457
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: to how high a linebacker ever goes in the draft.

458
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: You don't really see those guys going top three or

459
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 1: top five all too often. But uh, I think of

460
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: like Anthony Barr or somebody like that who has been

461
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: sort of eight to twelve range. I forget exactly where

462
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: he went, but um, that's what I've seen a lot

463
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: of uh as you know in the draft, who really

464
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: knows once it comes down to it. But he doesn't

465
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: play sort of that premium position like left tackle or

466
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: quarterback that you know teams are gonna take in the

467
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: top five regardless. So I could see him being late

468
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: top ten some time around that does he get bonus

469
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: points for being what they call a legacy pick because

470
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: his dad did play in the NFL He was a

471
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: tight end with the Dolphins, and and so many times

472
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: we'll hear about that pedigree maybe artificially raises a guy

473
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: a couple of notches, maybe otherwise that he wouldn't be

474
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: if he wasn't related. It might. Uh. The Edmunds family

475
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: is an interesting one. I mean, he's got two brothers

476
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: too that are older than him. Trey was an undrafted

477
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: free agent last year who laps down with the Saints

478
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: and actually made the team. His other brother, Terrell, is

479
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: older than him, is also in this draft, maybe a

480
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: third or fourth round safety that could go somewhere along there.

481
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: So this family just seems to know how to do

482
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: it right. I mean, it wasn't just Ferald, but the

483
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: father that made it to the NFL tray and the

484
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: older brother made it when a lot of people didn't

485
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: think he did. And then they look at Tremaine here

486
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: and they go, man, this is the most physically talented

487
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: of the group. I think it's just a family that

488
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: has their heads on straight and sort of knows how

489
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: to go about being an athlete and being a professional athlete.

490
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: And Andy Bitter, who covers the Virginia Tech football team

491
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: for the Roanoke Times. Andy, you just brought up his

492
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: brother Terrell, And I know Terrell I believe start off

493
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: as a corner and then obviously has transformed to a

494
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: different position as you feat seen and followed his evolution

495
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: of a player. I mean, what is his strains and

496
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: where do you think his ideal best fittis in the NFL?

497
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: I would say safety and I think he he started

498
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: out of corners because there was a need there, and

499
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: then they moved him to free safety and rover the

500
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: last couple of years, and he added a lot of

501
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: size I think. So he's probably bigger than you would

502
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: want from a cornerback right now, but he has those

503
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: cover skills from the past. I think his most impressive

504
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: thing is just his athleticism. And I look at him

505
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: and his body type, it's just sort of something that

506
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot, even for a safety.

507
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: He just got like really long arms and like very

508
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: broad shoulders and just in it's sort of an athletic

509
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: freak out there. I think that sort of runs in

510
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: the Edmunds family. Uh. You know, he got hurt last year.

511
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he had as strong of a season

512
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: as he wanted last year, certainly in coverage in some aspects.

513
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: Got hurt at the end of the year of the

514
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery at the miss the last couple of years.

515
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: But the year before that, I thought he was one

516
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: of the best safeties in the a SEC h up

517
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: there with Derwin James and and Quinn Blanding in Virginia.

518
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't quite get the do that those guys did,

519
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: But I thought he was every bit as effective on

520
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: the field as those two. Another guy on defense who

521
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: I expect is going to see a lot of draft

522
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: interest is that defensive tackle Tim Settle. Boy. Is he

523
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: a big mountain of a man. He used to be

524
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: even bigger. He came into Virginia Tech at three pounds written.

525
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: He read shirted that first year, and you know, the

526
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: coach is basically called, like, listen, you can't play at

527
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: three hundred sixty pounds. You'll be You'll play one play

528
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: and you don't have to come off the field. U

529
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: To Tim's credit, he got down to three in that year. So,

530
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean he cut thirty pounds from his freshman year

531
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: to his his red shirt freshman season, and it showed

532
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: up on the field he can actually go for a

533
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: few more plays, and then as a red shirt sophomore

534
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: sort of had his breakout year. How much of a

535
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: concern is it, though, that he can maintain a specific

536
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: weight at the next level and his conditioning will stay intact.

537
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's always a moderate concern with

538
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: a guy of that size. UM, I think in Tim's case,

539
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: he's very motivated by what people think about him in

540
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: situations like that. He was a guy coming out of

541
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: high school that I think scared off a lot of

542
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: programs in terms of qualifying for college. Uh. He was

543
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: sort of on that borderline in Virginity. Tech went with him,

544
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: and he, you know, he worked really hard to qualify

545
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: and not go to prep school before that when a

546
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't think he could. I think a

547
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: lot of he feels the same way about his weight,

548
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: where a lot of people are like, well, he's never

549
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna get his weight down. Um, and you know, Tim's

550
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: a big He's never gonna be smelled to fifty year

551
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: like that because he's a large guy from a large

552
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: family and he's going to be that big. But uh,

553
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think even if the combine he got

554
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: down to maybe three or something like that, I think

555
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: he can play at that side because he's got unusual

556
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: quickness for a guy that big. So uh, I think

557
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: he can maintain it over time because I think he's

558
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: properly motivated to do that. But I would agree that

559
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: probably is a concern on him going into the draft.

560
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: I want to flip it to the offensive line, because

561
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: we're told that interior offensive lineman. You know, there are

562
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: guys that could be third round pigs who were going

563
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: to have make IT grades, and one of those guys

564
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: might be wyt Teller, who you know has has done

565
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good job for that program. Yeah, he's been

566
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: their best offensive lineman for basically the last four years. Uh.

567
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: You know, it was sort of a quest he moved

568
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: over from defensive line originally, and it was a question

569
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: of how quickly he could pick it up. Uh. You know,

570
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: when the coaching transition happened from Frank Biemer to justin

571
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: one day, I think there was sort of a little

572
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: bit of a concern about how to to reach him

573
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: and how to coach him. You know, he he's spoken

574
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: about how the fact that he has a d D

575
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: and is sort of not focused sometimes and it's tough

576
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: to rain in. I think the new coaches eventually found

577
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: a way to reach him and sort of get him

578
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: to to focus in on everything, and his game really

579
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: took off. He was the first team All a CEC

580
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: guy last year, I want to say, had his good

581
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: or close to his good of a season as a junior,

582
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: didn't get that recognition. But he's been the offensive line

583
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: m v P on this team for the last four years.

584
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: Really has a strength component. I mean you look at

585
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: his arms, they're just massive. I honestly think he could

586
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: be a professional wrestler, uh if he didn't get into

587
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: the the NFL. On this he sort of has that personality,

588
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: uh to go with stuff. But he was a very

589
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: solid guy for the Hockeyes for four years. I think

590
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: could surprise some people. Uh, once he actually gets to

591
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: an NFL team. Do you like him better? Was a

592
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: run blocker or pass blocker? I mean, I know he's

593
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: an interior guy, but they got to pick up stunts

594
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: when they get to the NFL. Yeah, definitely a run blocker. Uh,

595
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: he can move. I wouldn't say mobility is his uh

596
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: his top thing there, but he is a powerful guy.

597
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: I mean he put a lot of defensive lineman on

598
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: the back sides uh in college. Probably more more suited

599
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: to a run blocking style scheme that a past blocking.

600
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: And it's interesting you brought up that he was dealing

601
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: with a d D because everything I've read is a

602
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: lot of scouts who have watched him have said there

603
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: was a noticeable difference in terms of his consistency from

604
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen to two thousand seventeen. So, I mean,

605
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to put words of him out, but

606
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: you think it had more to do with maybe the

607
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: medical condition and not being motivated by the coaching staff

608
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: as opposed to his actual skill set. Uh. Perhaps. I mean,

609
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: I think he's just a guy that sometimes was sort

610
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: of in and out of it mentally, and maybe that

611
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: does show up on the field a little bit. But

612
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean when he's tuned in and when he's he's

613
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: all there. I mean, he was by far the best

614
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: lineman and by far worthy of a first team All

615
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: a C C pick. I mean, I think he got

616
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: the set most votes for the Jacob's Blocking Trophy, which

617
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: is something the coaches vote on in the a SEC.

618
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: So uh, certainly as is. You know, the coaches think

619
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: a great deal about him and is somebody they had

620
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: to think of every time they lined up against the

621
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Hookey's offense. Anyone else on the squad that we haven't

622
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: touched do you think could be a sleeper that might

623
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: find themselves in contention for an NFL roster. Yeah, have

624
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: a couple of cornerbacks Brandon Phasman, Greg Stroman. Uh, those

625
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: were veteran guys. On this team last year. Staysan's a

626
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: little bit taller. I think he's like six to one,

627
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: maybe two hundred somewhere in that range, sort of a

628
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: bigger cornerback. Uh sort of burst on the scene and

629
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: had injury problems over his career, but he turned it

630
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: on late and had very solid junior and senior seasons.

631
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Uh I didn't get in the All a SEC recognition

632
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: but probably could have. He didn't really have any interceptions

633
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: or anything like that, so I think that held him back.

634
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: Stroman is a guy that's a little bit smaller, and

635
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: I worry about his size in terms of playing in

636
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. It was a concern when he got to college,

637
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: and eventually he proved that not to be an issue.

638
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: But the NFL is a whole different thing. But he

639
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: does have some punt return skills. I think he had

640
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: five punt returns for touchdowns in his career of Virginia Tech.

641
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: So he's got that element to his game that if

642
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: you're drafting him, you're not just drafting to play cornerback.

643
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: He could be a pretty explosive return man as well. Well.

644
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: At five oh eleven and in the four fours, you'd

645
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Speaker 1: have to consider they would probably look at him in

646
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Speaker 1: the slot. No, yeah, I think that would be uh

647
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Speaker 1: the position that he would have to play the most.

648
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Speaker 1: I just can't see him on the outside hanging some

649
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Speaker 1: of these six four, six five receivers all that well,

650
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Speaker 1: even though he did that occasionally in college. It's just,

651
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a different size and strength component

652
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL that he's just a very slight person

653
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Speaker 1: relative to those other guys. I worry about that, all right.

654
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Speaker 1: Andy Bennett covers the Virginia Tech football team for the

655
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Speaker 1: Royan Oak Times. Andy greatly appreciate the time in the inside.

656
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Eddie. All right,

657
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. So that was our breakdown of

658
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Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech prospects. We covered Auburn earlier in the

659
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Speaker 1: show and a little bit. We're gonna then focus to Washington.

660
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: Damon Heward, from our NFL quarterback will join us then.

661
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I want to try to squeeze in

662
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: a few phone calls that we've been very busy with

663
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: guests over the last two days. You want to weigh

664
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Speaker 1: in on the off season workout program, the draft, you

665
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: name it. So let's get to the lines at two zero, five,

666
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: one three. Joe is in Dallas, Joe, what's happening? Not

667
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: a whole lot, not a whole lot, and looking forward

668
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: to getting football season gone. Absolutely, So what you got

669
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: for us today, Joe? Um, I'm a big Giants fan.

670
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: You know, when I played Madden in the FLO eight teen,

671
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: only choose the Giants. I don't choose another team. So

672
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: I just want to do shout out all the clients

673
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: fans and uh, fullback play. I think all the off

674
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: season and the draft, who would get a number two draft?

675
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I was almost kind of hoping maybe we could even

676
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Speaker 1: get a fullback for the draft number two draft. But

677
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: I think our season, as you know, you look at

678
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: any Super Bowl we've ever won, has always been built

679
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: around a sound running game. And uh, I've tweeted out

680
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: to Shane Smith and he liked my tweet. You know,

681
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I think our season lies on on the fullback shoulders,

682
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: and you know, so I kind of hope our play

683
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: calling and centered around that. You know, we can get

684
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: all our off season trades and and all that. But

685
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: he lies a great quarterback, but he's just not built

686
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: for fourty and fifty past yards attempt, So I hope

687
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: to see uh, I hope we get a good fullback

688
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: game going. You know, that's an interesting question because or

689
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: should say comment, because it's our conversations with Pat Shermer

690
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: to this point as well as new offensive coordinator Mike Schula.

691
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: That question has yet to come up in terms of

692
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Speaker 1: do they want to have a fullback on the roster. Now,

693
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: what I will tell you is, you know, there's Dave Gettleman,

694
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: the new GM is very much in favor of running

695
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: the football and he loves those hog mollies up front.

696
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: And it's no coincidence that you said the Giants they

697
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: they had a running game, and they had a good

698
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: offensive line, and they had a blocking back in those

699
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: championship years under John Coughlin and also on the Bill Parcels.

700
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: So the question becomes, now do they have a fullback

701
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: on the roster? Shane Smith is to hold over. As

702
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: you've mentioned already, um Ellison can be used as a

703
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: full connections to Pat Shermer in Minnesota, he does, so,

704
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest with you, if the Giants

705
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Speaker 1: were to get se Quon Barkley with the number two

706
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: pick overall in the draft, I would be inclined to

707
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: use some double tight end formations, not necessarily have a

708
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: fullback in those sets, but go double tight end and

709
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: have Ellison just stay in to help out whichever one

710
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: of the tackles they feel needs a little help. I

711
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: mean again, usually you run strong side right, so it's

712
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: probably gonna be that side. But I'd have no problem

713
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: running out of a single back double tight end set

714
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: and and using Ellison's blocking prowess along the line of

715
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: scrimmage instead of lining up a fullback. Yeah, I agree.

716
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, of course, in this day and age, going

717
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: with multiple formations and packages the norm it helps Eli out.

718
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: But I kind of remember the fullback plays back. Uh,

719
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: you know when we won our very last Super Bowl,

720
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: when we started putting the fullback over the left guard

721
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: and the right guard and kind of starting one way

722
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: and then having Brandon Jacobs keep a straight line but

723
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: going back there the way, you know, running straight into

724
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: the gaps. I missed that, you know, it just it

725
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: makes the Giants a mean rough football team. You know,

726
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: Every quarterback, you know, should always take a couple of

727
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: drives off in the game. And I kind of missed

728
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: the running style, you know, with the fullback. You know,

729
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: you didn't always have to try to get secure the

730
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: outer edge. Sometimes just running straight ahead and just hitting

731
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: the middle line back the right amount, you know, was

732
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: what data said. We all remember how uh the three

733
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: backpackage that we had was the Giants in the last

734
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: shirt Brandon Jacob stuff and I kind of missed those

735
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: I missed those plays, and so I promised to tell

736
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: Henry Hanoski that you call. He will very much like

737
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: to hear that and appreciate the phone called Joe, Thanks

738
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: so much, awaghing in. I think the utilization of multiple

739
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: tight ends is probably the best bet if you want

740
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: to start to speculate as to how maybe the Giants

741
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: could incorporate a fullback. I think Ellison's familiarity with Shermer.

742
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Schrmer's familiarity with Ellison certainly helps. And Ellison was on

743
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: the roster last year, his usage wasn't very high because

744
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: we didn't see a lot of two tight ends. So

745
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, this season they could very well go in

746
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: that direction, no question. And I look, I know Shane

747
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Smith is back and last year he made the team

748
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: as an undrafted rookie free agent, and he certainly has

749
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: designs on making the roster again this year, the question

750
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: will be do they want to have a dedicated roster

751
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: spot for a fullback. It's something we're gonna have to

752
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: check on as we get closer to the offseason team activities. Well,

753
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: that's why, if you want to utilize a fullback on

754
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: the roster, you have somebody they could play tight end.

755
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: You killed two birds with one stone, and I think

756
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: that warrants a roster spot. All right, let's head back

757
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: to the lines of lenn Is in Columbia, Maryland. Len,

758
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: what's happening? Hey, guys, how you doing good? Good? Good? Hey,

759
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: just just a quick comment. That logo on the curtain

760
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: behind you is is? I mean, it's classic. If it's

761
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: great to see that, well, we figure you would like

762
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: the old school stuff. That's why we put it up.

763
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: We put it up back sixty five years. It's a beauty. Okay, listen, Um,

764
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: I like the idea of a fullback on the team.

765
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: It's just got to be the right fullback. Yeah, And

766
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we've got the right pullback on the

767
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 1: roster at this particular point. Not sure. Yeah, Um, I'm

768
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm leaning toward Barkley. Um for a variety of reasons

769
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: that that we've talked about four and I think he

770
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: gives us, um the most bang for our buck, the

771
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: most value value going into two thousand and eighteen. I

772
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: like the way he was described yesterday by both Jack

773
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: Hamm and the guy from or Lads. Yeah as Um

774
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: he called him a weapon, and I think that's a

775
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: good way to describe. And you can't have enough of

776
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: those guys. I think if we want to move forward

777
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: from three and thirteen, I think he's a guy who's

778
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: going to get on the field on the first day

779
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: and give us, give us the most value. I have

780
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: one concern and I would really like your opinion on

781
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: this about Barkley. Um, Jeez, Pence Steak got value out

782
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: of him. He just got the ball an awful lot

783
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: in three years. I mean, if you combine his carries

784
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: and his receptions over a three year period of time,

785
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost hundred times he had the ball

786
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: in his hand. Um. I don't see anybody else in

787
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: the draft a guy from Oregon Freeman. He's off the charts.

788
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: He's he's close, but he played four years. But she's

789
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: he's he's close to a thousand touches well for a

790
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: four year period, But seven seventy hundred sounds like a

791
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: lot to me. And you wonder about where and tear

792
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: on Barkley already, You guys have any comment on that,

793
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: any thoughts about that? Well, as far as I know,

794
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: he came through those carries and touches healthy, and if

795
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: he had been banged up at all or had suffered

796
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: a significant injury during that time, I would be much

797
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: more concerned about it. The fact that he's come through

798
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: healthy is a little bit less of an issue for

799
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: me because, quite honestly, Land, if he last five or

800
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: six years, and on the back end, maybe he loses

801
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: a year or two, well that's not that's not your

802
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: concern right now, is it. You can get five great

803
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: years out of Hi, wouldn't you take it? Yeah? Yeah,

804
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll take I thought you would. We

805
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: We gotta run Our next guest is on the line.

806
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: We gotta run well. Well match up on future shows.

807
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Appreciate the tank. Keep in mind, say Kuon Barkley also

808
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: as a special teams player. Yes, So if you're gonna

809
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: utilize him at the next level, you're gonna want to

810
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: balance things out of course, we'll get more on Barkley

811
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: in a little bit. Right now, we turn our attention

812
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: to the Washington Huskies and their prospects, and we are

813
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: now joined by former NFL quarterback, former Huskies quarterback, and

814
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: that is Damon Huart, who is also a member of

815
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: the Washington Husky Sports Network. Dammit, he got Lance Meadow

816
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: pauled A. Tino with here on Giants dot Com Piglue kickoff.

817
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: I've appreciate the time, house, everything, everything is great, other

818
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: than the rain out here. You know this time of year,

819
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: you you watch the Masters and you see people in

820
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: their shorts and polos, and you're like, is that really

821
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: the weather and other places in America? Right now? Hey, Damon, Damon,

822
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: I can't feel too sorry for you because here in

823
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: New York we've had like four snowstorms in the past

824
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: four and a half weeks. Spring has yet to start here,

825
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, really tell me about it. Well, let's focus

826
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: on the Washington Usky's prospects and a guy that certainly

827
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: jumps off the page both physically and mentally, I would

828
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: say is Vita vea quite a presence. His ability to

829
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback is extremely intriguing, though from what

830
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: I've seen it. From what I've read Damon, a number

831
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: of scouts are a bit concerned that he hasn't necessarily

832
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: corrected perhaps some of the technique issues that showed up

833
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: in previous years. What have you seen out of Vita

834
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: over the last few years in terms of his progress

835
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: as a player. Yeah, I mean I think it's been

836
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. You know, just obviously you mentioned his the

837
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: physicality and the size he has. Um, you know, he

838
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: there's no doubt you can be a bull rusher at

839
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: times and get away from his technique because he's that

840
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: talented and can get away with it. Um. But I

841
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: mean I would just the production and you put the

842
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: tape on and you watched how dominant he was for us, Uh,

843
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: each year getting better and better and better. Um. You know,

844
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: obviously the comparisons are gonna be the Danny Shelton, who

845
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: was a top fifteen pick for the Cleveland Browns a

846
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, since traded to New England, I think, Um,

847
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, Vida is even maybe a little more raw

848
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: to your point, but the upside is just incredible. His size,

849
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: strength and speed, you know, watching him run sideline to sideline,

850
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: watching him on special teams. You know, at six ft

851
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: five fifty pounds, the way he moves, I don't know

852
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: if there's a better athlete on the defensive line than

853
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: Vita Vea coming into this draft here this month, Damon,

854
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: is it fair to say that you think he could

855
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: make a protein that much better in a four three

856
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: or three four. He's got that much athleticism and size

857
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: and powers so much with his package that he doesn't

858
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: need to necessarily fit into a certain scheme. Correct. I

859
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: would agree with that. Yeah, I mean he could be

860
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: a nose guard or he could be yeah, a one technique,

861
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: a free technique because of his athleticism. You know, he's

862
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: not just a stand up plug, you know, Phil Gaps guy.

863
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean he is a guy that is going to

864
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: penetrate and wreck havoc and and I think would be

865
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: effective in in either uh particular scheme. Um, I don't

866
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: think you draft him specifically for scheme. I think you

867
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: draft him for his ability to um not only stopped

868
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: the run, but be an interior guy that can put

869
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback like he did here at Washington.

870
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: Personality wise, I mean, what is he like in the

871
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: locker room? What's jumped out to you with respect to that. Yeah,

872
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: he's a great kid, always has a snile on his face. Um.

873
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: You know, as an outstanding student here, Um, really took

874
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: pride in the classroom, finished with over a three point oh. Um.

875
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: You know, he was a kid coming out of high

876
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: school who had some academic issues. Didn't quite qualify for

877
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: some schools because I think he didn't have a foreign language. Um,

878
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: but really worked on that his year out and got

879
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: squared away and got accepted to Washington. So um that

880
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: when he got here and he really turned it around

881
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: like a lot of kids do under Chris Peterson. You know,

882
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: you have to or you're not going to be here.

883
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: And uh so he learned to get it done. And

884
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: I think he's grown up a lot in his time

885
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: as a Husky, and I think he's ready for the

886
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: next chapter in his life in the National Football League.

887
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Dame of the numbers I saw at the combine. Six

888
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: four three forty seven was the measurements that I saw.

889
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Do you expect him to play it that way to

890
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: the pros or when he gets up to the NFL

891
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: do you think the NFL strength and conditioning guys will

892
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: try to adjust his body somewhat and that may or

893
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: may not have an impact on his game. I'm not

894
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: lying when I tell you that at forty seven pounds

895
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: he's skinny. He's not adjusted. I don't. I mean our strength,

896
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: our strength staff and and what we do here at Washington. Um.

897
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: No one worked harder in the weight room and doing

898
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: all that he did here. Um, and he's going to

899
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: play it that weight and play effectively. He's he's not

900
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: out of shape at three fifty pounds, trust me, um.

901
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I got people call me up from the

902
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: combine like I've never seen a guy three hundred fifty

903
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: pounds like look like he could actually game weight. Okay, yeah, wow, Yeah,

904
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: that is an unusual take on a player. You don't

905
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: necessarily see that very often. We're talking with former NFL

906
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: and Huskies quarterback DamID Hubert. You can also hear him

907
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: on the Washington Huskies Sports Network. I want to move

908
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: to another notable player, and that is Dante Pettis, who

909
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: has some good family jeans Damon in terms of his

910
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: father played Major League baseball. Gary is older cousin Austin,

911
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: who was with the Rams as a wide receiver. He

912
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: has impressive numbers as a receiver. Also very impressive in

913
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: terms of a special teamer. Where do you see him

914
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: fitting in in the NFL level, especially when you take

915
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: into consideration his route tree as a receiver. Yeah, he's

916
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: a really talented guy. Just an outstanding football player. Um.

917
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: You know, Dante, you know right away can can be

918
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: your number three, number four receiver. Um. But then what

919
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: the value that he brings is obviously the special teams.

920
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: I think eventually you can move up to maybe that

921
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: number two guy. Um, he is that talented and the

922
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: receivers usually take a little bit of time. Um, but

923
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: for sure, just go ahead right now, put him back.

924
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: There is your part return guy. He's the best I've

925
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: ever seen in college football. I mean his nine returns

926
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: for touchdowns I think, which is an n c A record.

927
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: And um, just his ability to catch a ball and

928
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: this sudden movement like as he catches it, you know,

929
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: usually there's someone right in your face right away as

930
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: you catch this thing. His ability to make that first

931
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: guy miss and then and then he's just a glider.

932
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean he just you know, he covers ground with

933
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: his long stride. Um, he's just so natural as a

934
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: as a punt returner the best I've seen, and so

935
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he's probably gonna be a second

936
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: round draft pick if I had to guess. Uh, you know,

937
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: had an injury at the end of the year. Um,

938
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, he just did all his testing, I believe

939
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: for the first time last week. But you know, he's

940
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: getting a real outstanding, multidimensional football player in Dante Pettis,

941
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: Um who's gonna do great things at the next level

942
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: as well. What about going over the middle, Damon? So

943
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: many times we hear about guys who you know, they're

944
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: they're a boundary receiver and they're fine on the outside,

945
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: but if they got to switch positions or play at

946
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: some slot or play over the middle, that's gonna become

947
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue. Is that a concern

948
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: for you at all? Well, I don't know what. What

949
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: would you be more afraid of? Maybe catching the pump

950
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: with Tim Dooke coming down and there in the head,

951
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: or going over the middle with a free safety knock

952
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: and get ahead. The guy is fearless. Yeah, okay, you know, so, yeah,

953
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: he'll be fine going over the middle. The kid plays hard, man,

954
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: he's not afraid of that. He just makes people miss.

955
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: He never takes that big hit. He's kind of that glider.

956
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: That's a slippery guy, you know, but he's a tough

957
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: guy to trust me. Okay, very good because his frame,

958
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: his frame seemed a little slight, and that's why I

959
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: wanted to ask the question. I would agree with you. Yeah,

960
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: I mean you look at him and he's not all

961
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: rocked up and that and whatnot, but he's you know,

962
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: some of these guys just they don't take the big hit,

963
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: you know. Um, you know, Marcus Allen was that guy.

964
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like levy on Bell is kind

965
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: of that guy. They just you know, they're not real

966
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: egg and physical look in but point they just they

967
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: never they never get hit hard. You know, they find

968
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: a way to just kind of you know, slithery and

969
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: and that that's Dante Damon. I'm curious you had John

970
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: Ross a year ago, and obviously I'm sure he benefited

971
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: from playing across him. With Ross out of the equation.

972
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: How did that change how much attention Pettis saw and

973
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: his production? Yeah, a lot, without a doubt. You know,

974
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: teams rolled up to his side, and you know, we

975
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: had a couple other complimentary receivers earlier in the year

976
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: that you know, Dante's numbers got off to a pretty

977
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: good start, and then we lost both those kids, Chico

978
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: mcclass or Hunter Bryant and um, and we were really

979
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: finn at receiver kind of the back half of the season.

980
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: And certainly Dante's numbers weren't what they normally are just

981
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: because of what teams were rolling up to his side

982
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: and and you know, putting their best player, falling him

983
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: around and did different things to try to take him away.

984
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: So and I will also say that we were a

985
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: team that really leaned on running the football much more

986
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: so in two thousand seventeen than we did in sixteen

987
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: when he had the big numbers. Um, when we say

988
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: some teams U C l A, for example, I don't

989
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if we threw the ball fifteen times,

990
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: their run defense was so bad. Uh, we ran ran

991
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: it fifty times and that's all we had to do

992
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: to beat them. So, you know, I think philosophically with

993
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: our personnel played a part of that. And certainly defenses, UM.

994
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, uh, we're aware of Dante Pettis without John

995
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: Ross and a few of our other weapons on the field.

996
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Damn it. At one time a Zeene Victor was up

997
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: for the buckas Award broke his leg, has had some

998
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: off seat off the field issues. How has his stock

999
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: been hurt by those situations? And is there a possibility

1000
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: that he can get things on the right track to

1001
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: where he could be a productive NFL player? No question? Yeah.

1002
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was obviously a tough year for a

1003
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: Zeem with so many expectations and and just unfortunately didn't

1004
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: live up to it. You know, I think the biggest

1005
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: thing that killed him was in the Apple Cup of

1006
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. You know, he broke his leg. I mean,

1007
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: there was a chance he was he was probably going

1008
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: going out to the NFL um after his junior year

1009
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: and probably would have been a second third round pick um,

1010
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: But the injury really set him back in the off season. Um,

1011
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: he lost a lot of weight with it. He couldn't

1012
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: you know, move and lift weight for the way he

1013
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: wanted to. And then you know, coming back into the

1014
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: season trying to put all the weight back on, got

1015
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: off to a bad start, got some trouble off the field.

1016
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: All that being said, it was just one of those

1017
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: years where nothing went right for a Zeem. But all

1018
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: that being said, Yeah, there's a chance this guy could

1019
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: could absolutely, um, you know, step up and learn from

1020
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: that experience. And and and I think he's grown up.

1021
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: He's he's graduated. He's a good guy. There's a lot

1022
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: of neat things in our community. Had a bad year,

1023
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: and uh, he's got his bad body back in shape.

1024
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I think he proved everybody at the combine did some

1025
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: really neat things with his numbers, and you know, somebody's

1026
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: going to take a shot at him, and and they

1027
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: could pay big, big time dividends with his potential. They

1028
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: listed him at six one and ran a four seven

1029
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: to those those numbers sound pretty good to you, They

1030
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: sound really good to me. It's good for a middle

1031
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: linebacker who you know, I know, place fearlessly and loves

1032
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: to hit. And that's kind of what he was known for,

1033
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: was his physicality. I think at that weight, um, and uh,

1034
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: that that sort of speed that that's fit in pretty

1035
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: well with a lot of middle linebackers at next level.

1036
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: I guess what I should have said, I rather than

1037
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: do this sound good, that he sound accurate to you

1038
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: is what I actually meant. I wasn't trying to be

1039
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: a wise guy. Yeah, Yeah, for sure, you know to forty.

1040
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's the happiest I've seen him. But um,

1041
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: but but it's a good way, you know, if he's

1042
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: still running four seven, Yeah, for sure. Sure. Another linebacker

1043
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: Keishaw Area, I know, maybe not nearly as much athleticism

1044
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: as the other lineback of that you just mentioned, But

1045
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 1: I mean what type of a role do you think

1046
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: maybe he could carve out at the next level. I

1047
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: know he's projected to go perhaps in one of the

1048
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: late rounds. Yeah, I think it's just because of the

1049
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: athleticism is what's going to push him down. There's this

1050
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: guy's what we call around here and o KG from

1051
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: the Chris Peterson in terms, whis our kind of guy

1052
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: which were a team captain, team leader, did everything, was

1053
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: the go to guy in the locker room. So this

1054
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: is the captain, the quarterback of your defense. Kind of

1055
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: kid played a lot of football here. I see him. Um.

1056
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: You know, John Timu was kind of that guy three

1057
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: or four years ago. It was a free agent of

1058
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: the Bearers. I think he starts for him now. Middle

1059
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: linebacker Keyshan Bier is the same kind of kid. Um.

1060
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: Just you know, like I said, the quarterback of our

1061
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: defense here the past few years. And um, just a great,

1062
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: great person, another great student, and he'll play on special

1063
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: teams right away and and and work his way into

1064
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: the lineup of the team in my opinion. DamID Hubert

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Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback as well as Huskies quarterback. Last one

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Speaker 1: for me, Damon. And this is also a guy that

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Speaker 1: I think is rang just appealing because he was a

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Speaker 1: defensive player and then he switched cards to tight end

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00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: and that's uh, will dis Lee. What's the upside for

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Speaker 1: somebody like him? His numbers don't jump off the page,

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious from a blocking standpoint, do you see

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Speaker 1: a role for ms a tight end of the NFL? Yeah,

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00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean there's not enough of the old

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00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: school kind of tight ends in college football. The day

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00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: that tell me about it. The NFL teams are looking

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00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: for him, you know. Yeah, this kid's um you know,

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00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: uh pushing six five, a solid six four I believe

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Speaker 1: would be his numbers from the combine. Um, you know,

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00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pounds. Very pretty fluid athlete for

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Speaker 1: his size. Um and um, yeah, it's a lot of

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: pride and walking and will be great in the run

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00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: game at the next level, and uh, you know, maybe

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00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: not the freak athlete that you know some of these

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00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: first day tight ends are, but because of his well,

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00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: it would be a durable kid, but also the flexibility

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00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: of playing him in the run game and also slipping

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00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: out for a pass um. You know, I see him

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Speaker 1: definitely playing in the National Football League. All right, Well, Damian,

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00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: you were greatly appreciate the time and the inside and

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Speaker 1: we'll be monitoring whether or not Vita Vea has the

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00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to put some more weight on. That'll be the

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Speaker 1: storyline we'll be watching. I don't think you're gonna need

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Speaker 1: to send him a care package, that's for sure. Thanks again, David,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Damon. Alright, boys, have a great day. Former NFL

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Speaker 1: and Huskies quarterback David Howard, Washington Husky Sports Network analyst

1096
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: as well, going around the different prospects, and uh, Vita Vea,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember ever hearing a guy who's about three

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00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: fifty five pounds doesn't look the hard he actually looks

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00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: rather slin exactly. And I guarantee you that Vita is

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Speaker 1: probably saying to Damon, now, I'd like to bring you

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00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: to the NFL with me. So that when I do

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Speaker 1: gain a few pounds, they don't find me correct exactly,

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00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: so that Damon Kin present what he went through during

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Speaker 1: college and how it's not make the case, make the

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00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: case for a few more pounds exactly for him to

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Speaker 1: go into the lunch room and packet it. But we

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Speaker 1: certainly appreciate Damon's inside. So you heard from Virginia Tech.

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00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: You got Auburn as well as Washington over the course

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Speaker 1: of this program, a number of different prospects. To keep

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00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: close tabs on moving forward. As we inch closer, we

1111
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: are nearing that two week barometer. Now, Paul felt like

1112
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: miles and miles away from the draft, and now we're

1113
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: inching an inching closer. It's finally getting closer. And you

1114
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: can start to feel it now that the all season

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00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: program has started and players are in the building again.

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00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of like when the guy at the says,

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Speaker 1: gentlemen stock during Yes, well they're blazing ahead as we speak,

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Speaker 1: real quickly before we wrap up the program. Pat Shermer

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Speaker 1: spoke to the media during a conference call yesterday, as

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Speaker 1: did Eli Manning and Landon Collins, and you know, Shermer

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00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: talked about what his message to the team was as

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00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: they get started, and even though there's been a great

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Speaker 1: deal of turnover on this roster, Paul Shermer still keeps

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00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: referring to what happened last season and making the team

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Speaker 1: aware that they want to distance themselves from three and

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Speaker 1: thirteen as much as possible. Whether you were in a

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00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Giant's uniform and experienced that last season or you did

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Speaker 1: not experience that last season well and and the reason

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Speaker 1: for that is because he's putting a lot of onus

1130
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: on these players, telling them it's not just up to

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Speaker 1: the coaches to make you better. It's about you guys, yourselves,

1132
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: driving your your truck to make yourselves better will help you.

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Speaker 1: You know, as a team, we're going to get better.

1134
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Speaker 1: But each individual player needs to do what he needs

1135
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: to do during the offseason to make themselves better. The

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00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: coaches can only assist stand that they can't do it

1137
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: for these guys. And I think that's the overall point

1138
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: that he's really trying to hammer home and why he stresses, Hey,

1139
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: that's it last season, forget it, man, that's that that

1140
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: was not good. You don't want to do that again.

1141
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: Gotta build. Shermer also confirmed O Dell Beckham was present

1142
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: for day one of the offseason workout program. Eli Manning

1143
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: also spoke and he said that he's started to meet

1144
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: the new offensive lineman Nate Soldier and Patrick o'mam ay,

1145
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: and hasn't necessarily had any on the field work, but

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00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: I hope he had gifts. Well he I'm sure over

1147
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: the course of the season he may have gifts depending

1148
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: on production. Paul man I jump ahead so quickly, but

1149
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: he did say that the interaction has started with respect

1150
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: to the offensive lineman and he's obviously looking forward to

1151
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: jumping right into the new offense. Because one of the

1152
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: things that Eli mentioned was he had David's Webb had

1153
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: been in the facility pretty much the entire offseason probably

1154
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: workout program and what they had been doing. Since you

1155
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: don't have the ability to interact with the coaching staff

1156
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: and you can't get into the playbook, they started studying

1157
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: Vikings film Paul from the Vikings last year just to

1158
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: get an idea of Okay, this is are the types

1159
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: of tendencies and things that we're gonna see with respect

1160
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 1: to this new offer That is correct and final point

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Speaker 1: for me is that Pat Shermer made it clear with

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Speaker 1: only Eli and Davis Webb in the building. Is the

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00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks on the roster, they will split all of

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Speaker 1: the work during the offseason program, at least leading into

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00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: the draft. You don't know what the Giants are going

1166
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: to do, but right now, that's it. Those two guys

1167
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: are gonna do everything between the two of them. So

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00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: there's no third quarterback coming in here, no veteran free

1169
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: agent that's gonna sign now and take some of that

1170
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: stuff away. Davis Webb is going to get his share

1171
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: of those reps as they try to coach him up

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Speaker 1: and get him ready. Now. The one thing I do

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00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: want to add to that is when Pat Shermer spoke

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00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: to the media at the owner's meeting, he emphasized that

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Speaker 1: while Davis Webb is going to split reps with Eli Manning,

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Speaker 1: let's not make it out to be as if this

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Speaker 1: is Davis Webb's pro day, where it's Davis Webb front

1178
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Speaker 1: and center and they're gonna be examining every single one

1179
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: of his throws. No, because I know the media had

1180
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: been pressing that narrative in that storyline about how he's

1181
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: gonna be really put under the microscope to maybe dictate

1182
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: what they do with the number two overall pick. What's

1183
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: a media barbecue without a fire, of course, So I'm

1184
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there because Pat Shermer went out

1185
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: of his way to say this is not his pro

1186
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: there and and he the other thing that he mentioned

1187
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: was whether or not Davis Webb was young, old in

1188
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: between and regardless of what they're looking in at the draft,

1189
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Speaker 1: because like you said, there's only two quarterbacks on the roster,

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00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: he was gonna get a lot of work to begin

1191
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 1: with heading in to the offseason workout program because there's

1192
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: only so many qbs that they have available to make

1193
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: throws at this and if they need another arm, Jeff

1194
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: Feagels will volunteer. Absolutely yes, Jeff has been warming it up.

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00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure you would be willing to maybe throw a

1196
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 1: few down the field as well. You've had your fair

1197
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: share of reps over the course of your career. With

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Speaker 1: that being said, certainly appreciate all three of our guests.

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Speaker 1: The archive will be up later today, so if you

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Speaker 1: missed any of the interviews, you can go back and

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Speaker 1: watch to get some inside on the various prospects. Big

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Speaker 1: Book Kike Off Live will be up and running Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: we will focus on Oklahoma and we'll also focus on

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Speaker 1: a national perspective as well. For Paul Datino, I'm Lance Meado.

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