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Speaker 1: All right, so I'm excited about today. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get into a Bethany Frankel. Now she was on The Apprentice.

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Speaker 1: She's a Marca Stewart, followed by what I started to

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Speaker 1: really knowing her as the Real Housewives in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Then she has spinoffs, Bethany getting married, Bethany ever after.

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Speaker 1: I think we've all heard, or if you haven't, she

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Speaker 1: created a brand called Skinny Girl. Sold it were millions

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Speaker 1: and millions and millions of dollars Skinny Girl the drink.

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Speaker 1: But she had Skinny Girl jeans and sold the massive

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Speaker 1: about that with that is she looked at it kind

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Speaker 1: of how I looked at Pubo in the earlier days.

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Speaker 1: I looked at Poulboo is something that I could put

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Speaker 1: on all these music artists and their community was highlighting

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Speaker 1: these things on these pipes, right as we call it,

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Speaker 1: using it for a commercial. But she was smart enough

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Speaker 1: to do that where this wasn't new when she negotiated

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Speaker 1: her contracts, she carved it out without an attorney, carved

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Speaker 1: it out that I can do skinny Girl. Now, you

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of power when you're doing that

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Speaker 1: when you're first starting, because the way the networks and

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Speaker 1: people feel is that if I do that for you,

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Speaker 1: I have to do that for everybody. But it was

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Speaker 1: something in the way that she negotiated. Excellent negotiator. She

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Speaker 1: would later on go on the Shark Tank, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to probably tell you a crazy story about that,

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Speaker 1: but here it is. We're going to bring her on.

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Speaker 1: Bethany Frankel would learn so much from her. Hopefully you've

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Speaker 1: been seeing her on TikTok, being really hardcore and real

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Speaker 1: in her own way, and now she's probably bigger and

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Speaker 1: better than ever before. I'm excited, so let's get into

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Speaker 1: it with my buddy, Bethany Frankel. All Right, beth, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being here. I've already laid out

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Speaker 1: laid it out on how much you know, I love

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Speaker 1: and I respect you, and I want to just hop

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Speaker 1: right into it. You know, at that moment, I want

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Speaker 1: to go over special moments in your life that you

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Speaker 1: know you and I are out there having conversations with people.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they ask you the same things. What's your

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Speaker 1: best investment on Shark Tank? How did you do this

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Speaker 1: and that? And you become just repetitive. Right, I want

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Speaker 1: to go over where were you now? I know that

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Speaker 1: you were on several reality shows prior to Housewives, and

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Speaker 1: then you're very private about many many things of your life.

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Speaker 1: What shifted? And when was the moment that it shifted?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, to be on The Apprentice and Arthur

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Speaker 1: a very rare space in you know, Housewives. All of

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Speaker 1: a sudden you just really took a turn and said,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be in those type of worlds anymore.

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Speaker 1: I want to create even though I created a lot

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Speaker 1: And what shifted? And why did you just say I'm

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Speaker 1: done doing it like that? I'm doing it now on

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting, It's a great question. And how do

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Speaker 2: you know I'm so private? I love that you just

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Speaker 2: said that as if like everyone knows that. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that everyone knows that. How do you know that?

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Speaker 1: Well? Because I get enough information about a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and when when you are when you share certain things

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Speaker 1: public information, not that you have said to me that

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Speaker 1: to you. It just it's just a private thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm a very very private, like a fiercely private person,

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Speaker 2: which is extremely confusing because I've spent a lot of

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Speaker 2: your relationship to the tasks and the other people, and

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Speaker 2: they don't really care about all these things. And on

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Speaker 2: the Housewives, it's really you're sharing what you want to

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Speaker 2: Like I can control what I want to share and

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Speaker 2: to the other women. So I just think that's interesting

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Speaker 2: And I left four three years and three seasons, and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to pitch something else to Andy, and he

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Speaker 2: I also am not going to sugarcoat the fact that

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Speaker 2: asking this number and I'm not asking to negotiate, and

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Speaker 2: it's one number and you say yes or no, and

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Speaker 2: here's my number, that's it and they said yes, and

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Speaker 2: He's just calming and balanced and it's a different type

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Speaker 2: It feels weird being here, and he said, there's going

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Speaker 2: Then there becomes a point where like you're like, I

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Speaker 2: And I just was like, you know, if it bends,

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Speaker 2: I had just had someone who died that in my life,

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Speaker 2: And they put into my contract that if I don't

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Speaker 2: The ratings said plummeted when I left Sword when I

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Speaker 2: Bravo had a precedent, which they that's they're right to,

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Speaker 2: I just said, I'm calling an uncle and I just walked.

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Speaker 3: And that was the moment.

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Speaker 2: And it was a weird moment because my lawyers were like,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I know.

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Speaker 2: They're like, you don't need to do it, so I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. I just want to do it.

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Speaker 2: I want to fucking do it. I want to flip

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Speaker 2: the switch. So I just flipped the switch.

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Speaker 3: That was the moment.

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Speaker 1: I think that's powerful. What happens to people? And what

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Speaker 1: do you say to those people?

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Speaker 2: Go?

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Speaker 1: I think I know I've been there where you go?

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Speaker 1: Am I looking at a gift to using them out?

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Speaker 1: I know that I am not that I'm better than

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Speaker 1: anybody else, but I'm here in my life. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: either I'm really getting praise, I'm really getting paid really well.

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Speaker 1: If I leave, I may hurt other people that I

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Speaker 1: care about in there, But I'm just not happy. And

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Speaker 1: by nature I want to grow and grow may not

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Speaker 1: become being a bigger and better star. Grow, may may

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Speaker 1: become I could be more private in my life, and

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Speaker 1: I could do it on my terms. Like so many

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Speaker 1: of us, are those crossroads in life, and then we

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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I don't have

435
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Speaker 1: if it falls out that way being on a panel order,

436
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Speaker 1: I don't mind. So I remember a buddy of mine,

437
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 1: Pete Vargas, said he was in the car with somebody

438
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Speaker 1: and they were like, Hey, we're driving to go see

439
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Speaker 1: this guy. This guy's a real asshole at her and

440
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: he said you ever met him? And he said, no,

441
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Speaker 1: I never met him. And he said, well, if you

442
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Speaker 1: didn't meet him, and you think he's an asshole, You're

443
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: actually the asshole. And I said to myself when I

444
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 1: got on the show with you that panel, I said,

445
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,159
Speaker 1: let me think about it. In the break of that panel,

446
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 1: I forgot what was happening Mexico was something you were

447
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 1: on the phone going if do not call me unless

448
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 1: you have a private jet and you are ready to

449
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 1: send food. And I mean, you were working so hard

450
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: for the crisis of people, other people that you never met.

451
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,640
Speaker 1: And it was that moment that I felt like that asshole.

452
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: It was that moment that I said to myself, this

453
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 1: woman is doing way more than me for people that

454
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Speaker 1: she doesn't know, with the resources she has, as busy

455
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Speaker 1: as she is, I'm an asshole.

456
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Speaker 2: You're not an asshole. You're getting an energetic vibe. And

457
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 2: maybe I'm intense and you took that as something else,

458
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: or maybe I was just being a bitch that day.

459
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm intense and you took that as something else,

460
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: or maybe I was just being a bitch that day.

461
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: But the headline, so you're reading a headline that I

462
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: want to give a takeaway. You're giving takeaway about your

463
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: side of it. I'm giving takeaway for people listening that

464
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: you got to always try to be nice to everybody

465
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 2: or friendly, because I could have not gotten on Shark

466
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: Tank for that whatever vibe you got on, you know,

467
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: good morning America. So people have to I should always

468
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: be alert about being extranized to everyone around me.

469
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Speaker 1: Well, and I appreciate that, but in one hundred percent,

470
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Speaker 1: and I think we both can learn from it. But

471
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Speaker 1: I want to get to the moment of many of

472
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: us are too busy, or we donate at the end

473
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: of the day or through something else. When was that

474
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: moment when you were seeing tragedies go on and you

475
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: just decided the government's never going to get out of

476
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: their own way. We have great people like a chef

477
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: jose Andreas, who will be on the ground with food

478
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Speaker 1: before anybody else. When did you decide during all the

479
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: stuff you have, Hey, you got a plane, you guys, shit,

480
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: I know what you se money on. I need clothes

481
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: and food to go out there. When was that moment

482
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: that you said, somebody like entrepreneurs, somebody else is gonna

483
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: figure the set, you know what, nobody's figuring it out.

484
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure the shit out.

485
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: When was that much the moment is another one that

486
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: like evolved where I did something for Houston and started

487
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: to I'm always building the plane while flying it. It's

488
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: just the way my goes Right now, I'm working on

489
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: the series that is like a direct to consumer model,

490
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: just like the podcast, which is a direct to consumer model.

491
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 2: And I realized yesterday for the first time. I knew it,

492
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: but I've described it, but I didn't really put the

493
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: light bulb. But the way I do relief is also

494
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 2: a direct to consumer model. No rubber chicken dinner, Beyonce's

495
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: performing You're Gonna pay in a circular reference, and part

496
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: of the like it's called money to the people, but

497
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: I didn't know that wasn't happening. I didn't know that

498
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: cash cards weren't being given to people after the ground

499
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: zero of it all months later to rebuild a community.

500
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything, just like I didn't know anything

501
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: in business. One thing I say about The Sharks, you

502
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 2: guys are so smart and you've taught people are vernacular,

503
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 2: but like it's almost too smart a show for the

504
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: average person who doesn't really know shit. Like I would

505
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: never have been good on Shark Tach. I just like

506
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: got into the ring on business and just like swam

507
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: my way through.

508
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: To figure it out.

509
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: That's how I did with relief, like one step at

510
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: a time, just being like, wait a second, No one's

511
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: just talking directly to people and saying, hi, guys, this

512
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: is what's going on in this place, Puerto Rico or

513
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: a Guatemalan volcano eruption, or we don't have masks and pepa,

514
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: whatever the thing is, I don't know what the hell

515
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: is going on, because they don't know what the hell

516
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: is going on, so nobody should pretend they're an expert

517
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: in relief or doctor.

518
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: And I just was like, wait a minute.

519
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: People that are big that are taking people's money are

520
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: so bulky, and they take months to do the same

521
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: thing that we could do in two days.

522
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: So I was just like, let's just go direct.

523
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: Let's figure this thing out, and we don't have to

524
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: go to a government building in Puerto Rico and stand

525
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: there with clipboards and air conditioning and coffee and talk.

526
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: We just get on the goddamn but truck and go

527
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: bring the stuff and we'll figure it out as we go.

528
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: So it kind of wasn't one moment like Puerto Rico

529
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: was so big it was. It was enveloping me, and

530
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: it was like fifteen million dollars and I was like

531
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: one person. I guess if I'm thinking right now, there

532
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: was a moment when a very famous person, an a

533
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: list person at this time, it's been so many years,

534
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: I guess I could say Katie Holmes, like it was.

535
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 2: Paris Jackson came onto my plane and said to me

536
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: that they had gone to the Big Org, the Big Org,

537
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: with their money, to say we want to go do

538
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: a relief mission, and that Big Org said, what we

539
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm saying wait, wait to the I'm saying

540
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: to Paris and hold on. You had thirty thousand dollars

541
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: and you wanted to do a relief mission and the

542
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: Big Org couldn't help you.

543
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: Who am I? I'm nobody.

544
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: So I remember at that moment being like, this is

545
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: fucked up. If the big multi billion dollar a year

546
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: it can't can't help you get a plane into Puerto

547
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: Rico and I can. Then we are onto something and

548
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: we did the largest private relief effort in history US history.

549
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: Then in Ukraine was insane. So I realized we that

550
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: was a moment, Like I didn't know that that was

551
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: the moment, but right now. That was a big one

552
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: because I was like, Wow, we're doing stuff that no

553
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: one else is doing, but everyone's pretending that they are

554
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: an expert on something. And that's the same thing in business.

555
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: You can't pretend you're an expert because most things haven't happened.

556
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: It's case law No.

557
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And that's and that's what I want

558
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: to learn and take away from now. I want to

559
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, we have limited time, and I want to

560
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: just get go to this one because there's very few

561
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: people who are can be as as people without a filter.

562
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: You and Barbara don't have filters. Mister Wonderful is one

563
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: of the only people who can curse you out with

564
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: a twinkle in his I like Santa Claus. There's very

565
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: few people in the world that have this ability. And

566
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: I I am listen. First of all, I came from

567
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: the hood where you know, listen, everybody's trying to shoot,

568
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, shoot you, pimp you whatever cases. It's not

569
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: like I have to end skin. But as you know,

570
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: shark think. You know, there's always somebody a reporter who

571
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: thinks they have a smoking gun. Every year. The story

572
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: doesn't get picked up pretty much after they go the

573
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: sharks actually renegotiated deal after hearing it, or you know

574
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: you got one or two you know, sour pushing. You

575
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: know entrepreneurs who and who break their non disclosure We

576
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: don't do it. But how do you how do you

577
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: combats as raw as you are, with the way that

578
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: everybody's so goddamn sensitive, as much as people want to

579
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: do fight for you and love you because they say,

580
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: she's just gonna give it to you the way it is.

581
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: How do you combine combat the bullshit or the maybe

582
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: it's not bullshit? People who are offended, people think you

583
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: did this, think of the people that he did that.

584
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: How do you shudder that noise out? Or do you

585
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: not do you go? You know what? Like you said

586
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: with me with the beginning, just now, I should take

587
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: some of this in consideration. Let me move the rest

588
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: of this shit as crap. How do you deal with

589
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: the people that reply to a lot of you're unfiltered?

590
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: Uh Inside, I don't.

591
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: Like when it's too hot in the kitchen.

592
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: I fly dangerously close to the sun and I'm okay

593
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: with it being warm, but I don't like when.

594
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: It's too hot. It's just it's not it upsets the

595
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: Apple card. I don't like it. I'm never afraid.

596
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: The problem is I have a strong opinion and I

597
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: want to say something. It's just got a land and

598
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: I I feel that I've garnered the respect for the

599
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: first time in all these years, I've garnered the respect

600
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: of the media.

601
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: Like they don't mess with me the way they used to.

602
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: Like you're like you're I don't know, you're a prize fighter,

603
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: or you're some athlete that like has to like fight

604
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: it out for years with them for them to be like,

605
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: all right, you know she's prayed her do It's like

606
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: I can't explain it. Like if you're in the first

607
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: couple of years on a reality show, like you're gonna

608
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: get your ass handed to you. Then it's you know,

609
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: your second show was at a one hit wonder, You're

610
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: gonna get your ass handed to you. Like I've been

611
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: doing this for so long now that like I have

612
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: a decent relationship with the media because it's a game,

613
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: it's a dance, it's the ocean. You don't get in

614
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: the impact zone. If you do, you're gonna get beaten up.

615
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: You wait for the good set, you ride it. And

616
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: sometimes I get beaten up because I did. I took

617
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: I took a shot I didn't need to take.

618
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 3: You know, I don't and I'm not afraid.

619
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: But like I don't need to talk about Megan Markle,

620
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: it's not necessary.

621
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't do anything.

622
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Once in a while, I want to say something because

623
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 2: I do feel that there's something to say, but it

624
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: really doesn't affect my life. And if I do say something,

625
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: there's gonna be people that love it and hate it,

626
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: and is that worth it. I don't need to talk

627
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: about the Kardashians all the time. I'm gonna say it

628
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: once in a while. If it pertains to fashion, or

629
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: if it pertains to my daughter and the influence that

630
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: that filtering and not telling the truth about things, if

631
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: it affects her, that's something that might be a macro issue.

632
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: But if I'm just doing it to just do it,

633
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: it's not necessary.

634
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: So I'd side, like in a flash, in an instant,

635
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: whether it's worth it or not, and I just I

636
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: just let it ride, and I'd sometimes take a beating

637
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: for it. You know, by and large, I can take

638
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: the beatings, but the beatings don't really like put me

639
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: in the ground like they probably would have ten years ago.

640
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: It's just not the same because I think I've got

641
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: enough goodwill ye that it outweighs taking a beating. It's

642
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: just not that bad anymore. And I'm also not on

643
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: the Housewives, so I'm on Shark Tank either. Even Shark

644
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: Tank is like Housewives light as it pertains to shitty

645
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: Press because it's every second it's a factory of shit.

646
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: But I'm not really on that shit front line anymore.

647
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: And you're not either, but you're on like the lowest

648
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: version of it, like the low grade version of it.

649
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: And I don't you know what I'm saying, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: on TikTok. That's where I'm gonna take a beating. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I could handle that for a day. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm becoming more like you and mister Wonderful. I'm tired

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Speaker 1: of this shit with the people and I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't want. I gotta have more intent instead of saying

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Speaker 1: it nice and the people's shock. I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 1: to the hood people shark like yo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you really commit and you're

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Speaker 2: not afraid, it really works if you really don't give

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Speaker 2: a shit with I often don't and there's a place.

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Speaker 2: The podcast is a different place to say things then TikTok,

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Speaker 2: then Instagram than television. You gotta know what party you're at.

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Speaker 2: You have to know what room you're in. Because you

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Speaker 2: say the same thing in four different rooms, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: land differently.

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Speaker 1: That's powerful. So you know, listen, I thank you for

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Speaker 1: this journey. I think the way that I know that

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Speaker 1: I I entered these things is trying to learn. I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that we we you know, that moment

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Speaker 1: that anybody may be going through, whether they think they're

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Speaker 1: they're in the right place, they're at the right they're

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Speaker 1: at the place too long, Like you just said, you

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Speaker 1: got an exit to make an entrance, or they're laughing

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Speaker 1: all with you, and soon they're gonna be laughing at

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Speaker 1: you if you keep staying in that dam in that

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Speaker 1: damn place, and you gotta you gotta, you know, jump

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Speaker 1: and then fly. I love that. I love the aspect

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Speaker 1: of you know, you turned around and you really did

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Speaker 1: your analysis of what do I have as an entrepreneur

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Speaker 1: to be able to go and help change the world.

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Speaker 1: As I'm looking at everybody else out there who is

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Speaker 1: getting bottlenecked. They got too big and bulky fucket. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do it myself with the things that I have.

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Speaker 1: And then, as as crazy as it sounds, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I just think Barbara doesn't take her medicine and does

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Speaker 1: and think outside the box of when she is flying

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Speaker 1: too close to the sun at least you know, Hey,

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Speaker 1: oh no, I'm gonna give it to you. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, there's certain things that I know it's not

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Speaker 1: that important. Like you said, I fly close to the sun.

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Speaker 1: I don't get an impact zone. But yet I'm comfortable

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Speaker 1: where I'm at and I'm not at the mercy of others.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that one thing you said.

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Speaker 2: The second thing you said, you know, when you're at

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Speaker 2: that club and it's like the lights start coming on,

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Speaker 2: people's scare is flying down their face, like they should

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Speaker 2: have left a half hour ago, Like you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like it's the club, like to leave at

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Speaker 2: the peak.

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Speaker 3: The good song came on that all the time.

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Speaker 1: But he does not.

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Speaker 2: He's out there with the busted girl with the a

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Speaker 2: scare down her face at three forty five am, and

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Speaker 2: he should have left the two forty five and that's late.

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Speaker 1: I think I think she was there last time she

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Speaker 1: saw you. We thank you. I love you as always.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people know how amazing you are.

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Speaker 1: I think they do. I think maybe I was late

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Speaker 1: to the race, but I love it and uh and

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Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing everything you consistently do and

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Speaker 1: firing us things.

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Speaker 2: This was a great interview. Good good interview, and thank

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Speaker 2: you for the good question. Peace awcome have a great day.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you have it. As you can see,

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Speaker 1: I go down this rabbit hole and I've learned so

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Speaker 1: much from Bethlenhe. I'm sure you have. But thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for sharing that moment with me, Damon John.

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