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Speaker 1: But to answer your question, it's the certain songs that

428
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: I would have tweaked. Yeah, you know, if I could

429
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: go back and do it. That's why I asked you

430
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: that question. But I felt like a shift happened, like

431
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: during Victory freestyle. I felt like that was like a

432
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: watershed moment for your career, right. I remember asking about

433
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: that one time, like you talk about that, how do

434
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: you do a classic freestyle for classic record? And like

435
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: both things have their own dope identity, right, Like it

436
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from inspiration, Like victory is still victory,

437
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: but your freestyle is its own classic. In this situation,

438
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: it's crazy, man, what are you write? Where are you

439
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: writing that? A million dollars studio? No? No, I definitely

440
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: was not point where I wrote it. Yeah, I have that. Actually,

441
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: I might have it on my phone. So when it's

442
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: about you know, I send you the shot. You could

443
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: put it up to something, but I really have that.

444
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: But oh man, just um alright. What it really was

445
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: was because I had banks workout already. I was getting

446
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: off of that. It's like damn, you know because even

447
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 1: prior to that, when we was doing like you went

448
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: through it for All Star tapes, we still were doing

449
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: like six team alls, you know what I mean, I

450
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: couldn't really get much more than that. Everybody had to

451
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, So that was my introduction to that

452
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: cadence or whatever. So I just tried to follow up

453
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: and going through instrumentals because before I was writing over

454
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: niggas wraps, you know what I mean, Before I actually

455
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: got my hands on instrumentals, I was just literally blocked

456
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: whatever they were saying out and get to it. And

457
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: that was the first record I was able to perform

458
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: like as a solo, like my my moment, you know

459
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. Everybody gets behind me. You know, they'll

460
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: leave this the artist will leave the stage and just

461
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: leave me up there. And I was you don't have

462
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: to going over and over. I would just get better

463
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: and better at performing because you know, I started off like,

464
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: but when you're writing it, does it feel like this

465
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: is this is extra? Yeah? Hell yeah, that's no. I mean,

466
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: you know it's a um it's an audacity at that time, right,

467
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: because um, there's a lot of dope mc s that

468
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: I was looking at at that time. Yeah, I felt it.

469
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: I knew what the four ball. I don't want to

470
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: give away all my secrets, but my goal was to

471
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: hit every four balls right, every four balls, so a

472
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: set up punch and then boom. But if you go

473
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: back to those freestyles, they're still out there. You can

474
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: look them up, you know wyofore All Star tapes when

475
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: I'm like sixteen seven seen years old, and I always

476
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: had bouncy cadences, So I figured out how to hit

477
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: with the with the heavy metaphors, but then switch the

478
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: flows up so it's not just the same punchline punch line,

479
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: but the old way through it was never that. That's

480
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: why victory was tolerable. That's why you can listen to it,

481
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: because it just wasn't that listen to things workout. I

482
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: was trying to try to think, what is it kind

483
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: of compared to if you really think about it, maybe

484
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: in Meek Mills Dream a Night Man, like the energy

485
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: of it, like you're gonna put a fair comparison. Like

486
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: I was like, why is it so special? I was

487
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: like really trying to figure out, you know what I'm saying, Like,

488
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that that ship is like I said, that

489
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: was the one that I could perform. It's crazy shout

490
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: out the masterpea man, Oh yeah, I was gonna say

491
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: that he haven't we the first tour we did was

492
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: with masterpe. You said that, but it was coming from

493
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: uh that was I love I love Master people, but

494
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: they didn't take a lot of thought. Yeah, like I said,

495
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: this is me flipping through pages and magazines, you know

496
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. At that time, he had a lot

497
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: of ads, you know what I mean? But then I

498
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: think about go back to Cody too, because it's like,

499
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: how do you drop a classic without going through the

500
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: controversy banks? How do you do it? I was always

501
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: wired like that. You know, everybody can't be the same,

502
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I didn't lean on

503
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: being controversial. I wanted to be Like I said, at

504
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: that time, it was a lot of smoke thered because

505
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: you're a part of this big record label. You know.

506
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: It's times I've been in some of my first studio sessions.

507
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: Was like Snooper is right here. I man, he got

508
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: his man rolling up like ten bunts in like twenty minutes,

509
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: right and you got Dre right there. You got fifty

510
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: right here. Real life life and ships crazy, you know

511
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like the ship was listening. Wait, baash

512
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: out of high school? What a masterpiece? Say? I'm sorry.

513
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: He was just like yo, that ship is dope. That

514
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: dope I forgot exactly, not even It's been a lot

515
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: of people that was, you know, at the opposite end

516
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: of those punch lines. But it didn't. It didn't come

517
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: from a place of howice, and and I had super

518
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: respect for these guys, like like even rest in Peace,

519
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: a big mode I believe his name was, is Like

520
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: I had a line and one of them thinking the soldier, right,

521
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: and I didn't, yeah, exactly, And the last thing I

522
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: wanted to do was disrespect that man. That was not

523
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: my intentions. And I had I hadn't even been to

524
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: these markets yet to even know what that music meant

525
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: in certain places, you know what I mean? Yeah, like

526
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: I've seen something was about with the forty and like

527
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: Biggie like, yeah, you gotta understand. We only know first

528
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: of all, hip hop is dominated by New York in

529
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: that time frame, right, So that's what you come up on.

530
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: So when you start hearing different styles and accents and ship,

531
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, it could come across like what he said,

532
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: what do you say? You know what I mean? And

533
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: they're probably looking at us like that too, you know,

534
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: be what up? B So it was it wasn't coming

535
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: back you know what I mean? Yeah? Competitive? How competitive

536
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: was it with you guys during that between us? So?

537
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: But competitive? You listened to the freestyle when you bring

538
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: Games four? I mean not really because we didn't. We

539
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of time recording amongst each other,

540
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: like maybe like two or three times giming at radio days.

541
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: But before that, oh, it was real. It was like

542
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: is this my is this my nigger? You? Because YE

543
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: brought you in, right, that's how you got But we

544
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: were me and he was already doing like freestyle, That's

545
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: what That's what got me into the mix. Was like

546
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: it didn't take a lot of convincing, you know what

547
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the g and the Soldiers. That freestyle was

548
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: done on a mixtape prior my rest in piece of

549
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Fast Shot. So I went I went over there to

550
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: fifty with the idea that I had to like rap

551
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: for like thirty minutes, you know what I mean. And

552
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was like, you know, what, did you say?

553
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: That ship TV is hanging from the seal? And I

554
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: said it and I was like, well I got more.

555
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I don't need no more. Like I didn't

556
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: really know what to think at that that end, but yeah,

557
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: after that, they don't think I'm nice. What you know?

558
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: The competitive ship was crazy to give us what was

559
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: it was the most stands out here as a super

560
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: competitive moment, all right, everybody, Well, every day was like

561
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: that because those mixtapes you name, God's Playing the Future

562
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: Automatic was all done in like two days. Wow, you

563
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: know what, man? So it was like fifty goes in

564
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: and does uh the chorus you're already knowing at verse,

565
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: He's probably that verse is gonna get done in within

566
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: ten minutes, right, So then you got ten minutes to

567
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: make your eight balls, and then I got ten minutes

568
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: to do mine. So if you missed that rotation, you're

569
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: just gonna miss that song. Ain't know going back because

570
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: we're already driving to Long Island to the studio. I

571
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: ain't got no call a double back and be shot.

572
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm it wasn't like that we done here, you ain't

573
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: getting on the record. So and that determined who went first,

574
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: who went last, and ship like that. It wasn't like

575
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: no swapping versus moved this head maybe once in a

576
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: blue for the most part in the order we recorded.

577
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I would say such a

578
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: zone with them hooks and melodies like it was happening.

579
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: It was insane getting a haircut, you know what I mean,

580
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: getting the process is getting a haircut. You just never know.

581
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: Some should have just happened right there and that work ethic.

582
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: I had like to to Best of Banks tapes before

583
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: my album, like not like fifteen, so I'm talking about

584
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: like and that was crazy for me because you know,

585
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: the gun was in my face on the first coup,

586
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: so people didn't really know what I looked like, right,

587
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: So I was still going to the bootleggers and getting

588
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: away with that. I'll go to the bootleggers and kind

589
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: of air hustle because literally ninety percent of people that

590
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: was coming into that mixtape store was coming and get

591
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: that g unit take. Definitely the South Side getting right

592
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: that was like didn't get enough at the time. It

593
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: was crazy, man, And I probably wasn't even supposed to

594
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: be there, but that ship just felt like, oh man,

595
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: you know what. It kind of reminds because I'm sitting

596
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: here in this venue, Like imagine like sitting here and

597
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: seeing all the people filling Yeah, like that ain't usually

598
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: how it happens. Like you get here and everybody's already there, like,

599
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: oh ship, Yeah, that was kind of like the you

600
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: see them all joining and guilty pleasure I had was

601
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: going to the spot and just being a fly on

602
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: the wall when people explaining that, I tried to explaining

603
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: being the excel with the hope of extent unit thing.

604
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: It's like you guys were like running the underground and

605
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: then took over the main stream, but then still with

606
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: the kings of the underground at the same time. We've

607
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: never seen that in the hip hop and then when

608
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: do the hun kar k and it's like I'm saying

609
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: it was the hottest in the hood still and the nationwide,

610
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: worldwide phenomenon at the same time. Like I said, he

611
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: wasn't too far remove. Everything happened so fast. But I

612
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I guess we were like turned out

613
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: from uh the response man and just coming through the

614
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: hood and just you know, seeing the records get played

615
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: in the live reaction and what it meant to be

616
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: like uh um respected in that way, right, like I

617
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: Love on Fire, like the record was fantastic four movie

618
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: huge um shout out to Quamate. But you know, you

619
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: start to question yourself sometimes because you know you know

620
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: you have records like I got five on it, you

621
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, records that was just like organically

622
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: like classic, you know what I mean. So like if

623
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: a question is like what I wanna do is like

624
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: I just want to tap back into being dope, you

625
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't want to follow the

626
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: rules no more like you know, put your hands up

627
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: or choreograph records and ship like that. I just kind

628
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: of want to do what this comes off. It's dope

629
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: to me. Not although you know had album success obviously

630
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: the fans are gonna love Cody too. It seems like

631
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: the fans love you more for the mixtape thanks, Like,

632
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: why do you think they gravitate more to that style

633
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: of because that was all right because that's when they

634
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: could get away with They had an excuse to be

635
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: ignorant at that time, you know what I mean. You

636
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: gotta post the boy for that ignorance. So if you

637
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: were twenty at that time, I'm twenty, that's excuse to

638
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, still be Like I'm talking about it bas

639
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: something about co Corner, like those like the co Corner,

640
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: which which one because they have very different That's what

641
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the co corner too V six FNLA. Alright,

642
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: so the order was two thousand nine. This is after

643
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: like um uh like hip Hop b X and oh

644
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: hip Hop, all those sites ship where you can first

645
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: read the blogs see comments. Yeah, we're about to start

646
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: two for the first time you can see a nigger

647
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 1: say you all stuck. Think about before before that you're

648
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: not gonna get that. We're gonna get to that, you are.

649
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: We don't go like that, so wead in comments like okay,

650
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: then you gotta grasp the idea that they're comfortable because

651
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: they in front of the laptop, you know. So part

652
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: of it could be this is really how you feel.

653
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: Oh he's trolling, trolling, didn't even have a name yet

654
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: he's getting it off. So I just took it as

655
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: that's how he feels. Oh you feel like what? All right?

656
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: So that gave me that drive. My goal was to

657
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: turn as many of those people into saying I did

658
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: think that at this point, but he's shown improven now

659
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: reading them comments. You know what I'm saying for commentators

660
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: mixtape mixtape catalog because this is before box and all that.

661
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: This is before like the same comments. You know how

662
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: the comments now you could be that that's not even

663
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: a real person. These are real niggas, man. Yeah, it

664
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: was so I was like, funk that, my goal is

665
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: to change all that. Two thousand and nine, returning to

666
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: p Okay, how doween have it? Cold Corner? The first

667
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: one the Birthday tape for two, which was to double

668
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: CD and then V five which led into being so

669
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people. That's what I mean about the

670
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: Manifestation ship, Like I felt like I had to strike

671
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: five times? Which take? Do you are the most problem?

672
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Cold Corner? Yeah, that seems to be the fan favorite.

673
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: That love shots. Oh man, keep I think shocked the

674
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: world was on that ship. I like the drink my

675
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: flight that that's my flight. This is my flight. See

676
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: but like I said before, like when I put that tape,

677
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: they weren't ready for it. Yeah, they wasn't ready for it.

678
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Like all my tape started off aggressive. You know what

679
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean? Prodigy type My mom's I gotta get p

680
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: You know, you make some great music together. Remember the

681
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: drink on rotten Apple clap back, that was my ship.

682
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: Get Clapp, Get Clapp, fund on me and get Clapp.

683
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: That's crazy, yo, man, one of your favorites actually come

684
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: on now. Prodigy was like after you know, after the

685
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: NAS wave and all that, it was just like Man,

686
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: so shout out the Red Spider. At that time, I

687
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: went to the studio, you know, Yeah, he had a

688
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: link with Prodigy. That's the first person that I went

689
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: to to get a record with. And it was over.

690
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: I was bugging, but my request was to do it

691
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: over one of their beats. So it was over my beat.

692
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: Get dealt with? Yeah, right, feel me? And he was like, Yo,

693
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: it's like your banks. I'll funk with you. So I'll

694
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: do it just because as you that's like somebody go

695
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: to me now like yo, let's do I'm so flower

696
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: nah you know what I mean. So that was crazy

697
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: to me. Man, Like I said before, like that ship

698
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: rest in piece of Prodigy. Man, that should hit me

699
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: like a ton of bricks. The fans are still upset

700
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: at you though. Man said he was about to put

701
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: out Cold Corner three. It's no Cold Corner three? Um?

702
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: Is that still happening? Dude? That's the tricky part. How

703
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: do they not know Cody is Cold Corner? Don't know?

704
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: What's your name? You don't know. But the reason why

705
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: I say that is it's the Brandon is what I

706
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: learned by not accident, but just I guess, just you know, repetition,

707
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: like just what we were bred to do, you know

708
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. So those logos and ship eventually turned

709
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: into into a mystique of his own, like you know

710
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, like the silhouettes. If you look, I

711
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: got mixed tapes with me as a silhouette because I

712
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: was trying to reverse the cycle. I was trying to

713
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: how do you like, how do you go back to

714
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: being when you didn't know what I look like? Right?

715
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: But you're actually a private person, right And I noticed,

716
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: like you have your son featured on the cover, right,

717
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Why was that like a decision that you chose to

718
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: put them on there? My kids and my son is

719
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: that's that's my world right there, Like I just like

720
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: when I just look at him, I just look at

721
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: you know. If I didn't get anything else, right, you know,

722
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: I got that right right there. And like I said,

723
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I know my fans, man, they're in a different space,

724
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: and I think it's important to show uh me as

725
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: a father, you know what I'm saying, Your kids the

726
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: only thing keeping you alive? Yeah, right, yeah, because it's

727
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: like regardless of what goes on, you know in this world.

728
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: Like that's what I got a reason to go home now,

729
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I didn't know I

730
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: was toning man from sucking, you know, nineteen years old

731
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: to thirty four years old, I didn't have nothing to

732
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: come home to four right, It's just like we're going

733
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: over here, We're going here. I bet I'm going now.

734
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: I was like job done, Like I'm going home. Like

735
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: my first when my daughter was like my first flight

736
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: I took was probably like she probably was six seven months.

737
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: I was like breaking down on the plane, like you

738
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I couldn't control the ship. Like

739
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: the person sitting next to me. I probably thought it

740
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: was what I was watching on TV or whatever. You

741
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's a good movie. But you

742
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: know what, but it wasn't that. It was just the

743
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: thought that I can't protect her right now, you know

744
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I was always scared about rolling

745
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: over and all that ship. So it was time for

746
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: me to take that first flight. That's the first time

747
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: in my career. While I look forward, they're coming back home.

748
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: I know. He dealt with a lot of losses to

749
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: speaking to a family, like I remember on coding to

750
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: just give me a cody one, don't break me down.

751
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: You talked about how you lost your your grandmother, your father,

752
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: best friend, Like how did you even cope before those losses?

753
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the right way to do it.

754
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's just played out for me the way

755
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: it played out. Sometimes I wonder I'll be like, damn,

756
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be feeling like losses hit me harder

757
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: thing now. You know, it's not a good mold of being,

758
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You start wondering, like how

759
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: what kind of impact you would have? Like am I

760
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: the only one that's tripping like this? Like you know

761
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like why is it enough for me

762
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: to like be devastated like that? You know what I'm saying.

763
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: And then I think it's a mixture of how busy

764
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: I was too, you know, at the same trying time,

765
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: trying to keep a lot of things in position and

766
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: around me. When you're moving, you think you have time,

767
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When you're young and ship

768
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: and making money and touring and different cities every day,

769
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: you start feeling like you're more powerful than you actually

770
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: all you know, what I mean, like you could just

771
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: leave something there and when you come back, it's gonna

772
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: be there. And then you start getting phone calls like yo,

773
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: your best friend got killed. You know what I'm saying.

774
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: It's like God, damn so my And I'm telling myself,

775
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: when I get enough money, you could come with me,

776
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: when I probably didn't need enough money, you know what

777
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Like what you thought you needed, you probably

778
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: didn't need that. So then I turned into you know,

779
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: I was in Vegas when I got the news about

780
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: my father and ship, and it was just like, uh,

781
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, I kicked myself hard because um, when I

782
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: was young and Ship. I guess just in my mind

783
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: it was playing back like a payback type of thing,

784
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just a dip like I

785
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: love my dad, you know what I mean. So I

786
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: was like subconsciously like making him game back our relationship,

787
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, you know what I mean. You've

788
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: been going for this amount of time, so I'm gonna

789
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: make you wait this amount of time for us to

790
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: go kick it as as regular as you would like to,

791
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And before he passed, he

792
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: told me that like to a voice man like it

793
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: was an angry moment like yo, you think you could

794
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: control ship, you can't control time, and that ship just

795
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: kind of like stuck with me. So when he passed,

796
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: it had like a real hard effect on me because

797
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: it was a moment where I resented music, Like I

798
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, this is the ship that took

799
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: that front, right. I know he said that he put

800
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: you on the thig that it came and when you

801
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: met think that it came. He told that you were dope. No,

802
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I didn't need him. He said it on Instagram. Yeah,

803
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, Banks' is bananas And I

804
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship, Yeah. I was like my moment

805
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: like Yo, did you hear that? And what I'm saying

806
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: like what because when you really think about it, right,

807
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: like we're talking about like a twenty year eight, like

808
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that's a big guy

809
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 1: fifteen years the old drunking generation and who my dad

810
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: thought was dope things. I'm oh, and then I'm bumped

811
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: in the slick right in the airport a couple of

812
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: times and he just tell I'm trying to tell him

813
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: how He was like listen right, whatever you bust in peace,

814
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: heavy d I'll never forget you crazy, yo. I met

815
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: a heavy d same thing. I'm trying to tell him,

816
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: you know how much you know I loved what he

817
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: did and how big of an influence he was. And

818
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: he literally told me shut up, like shut up, get over,

819
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: give me a hug get, hugged his shot out of me.

820
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, you know what I mean.

821
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: And they would just always bring me back down to

822
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: my you know, my childhood busch the rhynd too, and

823
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: shout out to bust the rounds like he always do

824
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: my career. He would, you know, grab me up. Yeah,

825
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't you know, this is before you know. Now

826
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: it was cameras all over. I felt weak a few times,

827
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: but outside of the side of your piers on track

828
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: touched on a little bit. He said, I think we'll

829
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: talk about your grandmother. He said, yea o G. You

830
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: know you got to see before she passed. I guess

831
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: she's proud. What are you referring to? Yeah, well both

832
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: of my grandmother's past my mother's mother. When she passed,

833
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: she she was able to see my daughter through picture. Um,

834
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: so I was happy for that part right there. You know,

835
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: you can't get those times back, you know, I learned

836
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: so much, you know, principles and morals you know, from

837
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: my grandmother's And it's a superstitious type of thing with me.

838
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: I keep the chains on like she had one. My

839
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: other grandmother had one, and I had one to match

840
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: those two. And to this day I don't take them off,

841
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because, like I said, when

842
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: when you're moving around like that and life is happening

843
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: so fast, man, you just you literally have flashbacks like

844
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: why you're up type ship. The further you get away

845
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: from home, the more you think about whom. But it's

846
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: interesting to someone that you that really caught like fame

847
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: early in your life, you still have this foundation of

848
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: family like manifested from before you and now you're manifesting

849
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: now with your kids, Like why do you think that's

850
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: still so much of probably your essence of who you are?

851
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's just who I am, you

852
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean? My friends too, like you know

853
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: that was um. I don't know, man, maybe just where

854
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: we come from, you know, we uh to a certain extent,

855
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: we appreciate the times because a lot of people will

856
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: be passing, you know what I mean, a lot of

857
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: funerals I've been a lot of funerals, our first funerals

858
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: probably like ten years old and so from seeing that early,

859
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: but when you start experiencing it with your homies, it

860
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: just really sets the reality check. So um, whenever we

861
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: could go, I would go eat, you know what I mean, people,

862
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: I enjoy stuff like that, just the moments, even we

863
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: did that last night, that those times, you know, those

864
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: times you need something, you know what, so just try

865
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: to like, like I said, now I've come to know

866
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: like what an intro bird is. I'm kind of was

867
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: that all along. Like even when I was younger, like

868
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen, I wouldn't come outside so like nighttime I

869
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: would be on my shift, you know what I mean,

870
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: literally like I'm gonna get these these balls in and

871
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: I really feel like them what they say. Like I

872
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: tripped that sticking with that theme of like unity and family.

873
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: It felt good to hear you and Yayo together and

874
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: don't switch up, Like what was the inspiration behind that song?

875
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Just I don't know. I just think it's it happened organic,

876
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: Like I got so many records, but just playing him records,

877
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: playing them I always do that though I drive, you know,

878
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: play thirty Records, but he actually picked that song, you

879
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I just feels like it

880
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: feels like oh three to me, you know what I mean,

881
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: even though like a shout out to my man Germ

882
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: who did the beat, but it just feels like high

883
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: tech ship or something like, you know what I mean.

884
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: It's something that would have just been like even when

885
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: I did Can I get high with Snoop? I don't

886
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: know why I like certain beasts that I like, but

887
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of like Daylight Soul and you know

888
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: what I mean, so many different groups so that you

889
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: know what you would think I like is like it's

890
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: way broader than what you think. I like, so many

891
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: different productions, you know what I'm saying. It feels like

892
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: Ye was like the glue. Is that fair to say? Yeah?

893
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: YEAHO is the one that he's just energetic, you know

894
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, he always he always checked me,

895
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, Like you always tell me like

896
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: you don't know who you want man, like I think

897
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: I do. Nah, Nah, you don't know who you are,

898
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: Nigga like being shoot dumbing down, like dumped down when

899
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: I'm on some rap rap rap ship like he likes

900
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: the pockets, you know, but he he says, that's the

901
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: dumb down version of which is like the punch lines

902
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: and just straightforward. But he understands why. You know, I

903
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: inspired it be like super lyrical and Ship. You know,

904
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: I gotta blame that on like rock Kimming and you know,

905
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean Black Kim told me I'm dope. Goddamn what

906
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: once you get once you get them type of co signs. Man,

907
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm still kill with these kids in the end that

908
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: they say. It's like, it's like, Yo, I don't care,

909
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm good snoop dope. You know what I mean. When

910
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: he told me I'm dope, he used to LB that's

911
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: what he's going. That Ship was crazy to me. Man,

912
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: that's like, like I said, top three influences on my career,

913
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: so to actually have them on my first album and Ship,

914
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm still excited. I'm still like a student of this Ship,

915
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's so much room to grow

916
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: still as an artist. I'm gonna get doper than I

917
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: am now talking about that growth now. It's like you're independent.

918
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: Even mentioned that on Menace, like how everything's independent, that

919
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: you don't need a permission, right was it was being

920
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: called the major label system fund or do you enjoy

921
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: kind of doing things on your I don't want to

922
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: take away from many of them times we had. We

923
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: had some some good times, you know what I mean.

924
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: And we always had the creative freedom, you know what

925
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean. It wasn't like it wasn't like fifty it

926
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: was like over us like no, I don't do it

927
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: wasn't like that, Like I had full creative you know,

928
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: creative um COTL yeah, my projects. So it's not too

929
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: much of a difference. The only difference is the way

930
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: the system rolled out now. Like back then, solid album

931
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: would probably last two years in order for you to

932
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: tour domestic and then go overseas and hit another footy

933
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: shows and then come back and catch the rest like

934
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: it would take two years. It guys that tours off mixtapes.

935
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: Prior to that we catching flashbacks. H But you had

936
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: like the first mixtape toil and go into like uh

937
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: anger management and then rock the mic tools and g

938
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: unit tools and then solo album tools and like I've

939
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: done like shows in a year, you know, just like

940
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: because like most of my junior like something. Sometimes people

941
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: like Unit as a brand, like Recoll labels, of the

942
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: movement as a trademark, like what does it look like

943
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: when people really think about it? And like what's it

944
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: like being part of that? And how do you view it?

945
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: And then how do you deal with when it's like

946
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: you're kind of honestly stop over run and then you know,

947
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: inevitably hit a little turbulence, right, Like how does that

948
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: affect you? Like I told you it put me in

949
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: that moment to where you know, for the first time

950
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: you're getting like, h some sort of a doubt, you

951
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's over Like they was

952
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: pinning that like early on, probably like oh seven, after

953
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: my second album, Like it felt like that was when

954
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: things were starting to slow little backlash and then and

955
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: then it was welcoming the Internet, the blogs and stuff,

956
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: all these what happened, you know what I mean. So

957
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: it was like, damn that ship lit a fire. Lit fire.

958
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: Even to this day, you know what I mean. I

959
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: look through my Twitter, Oh, I look through you know

960
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: these comments and people say ship you know what I mean, Like, Okay,

961
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: watch this, you know what I mean. I'm going I'm

962
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: gonna change your opinion, Like even this guy, like I'm

963
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna change this Nigga's list. I'm gonna change because because

964
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna, I'm gonna list. Yeah, this guy,

965
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: I love. I love that he does that. I love

966
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: I love that he does that because it's necessary, you

967
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You got a line that stood

968
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: out to me. He said, been underrated too long? She

969
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: we're talking to me? Thanks? I mean, you know he

970
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: did like that, No, because I know he I know

971
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: how he feels about me as an artist. You know what,

972
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: I don't feel like um underrated to that level. But

973
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: like I said, it's been gaps and shipped in between.

974
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: That's you know, understandable. Only I could correct it. What

975
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: was going on? To go back to the Ranapoli, What

976
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: was going on with the second album? Your mentality? We

977
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: look back at it, like what's going on with you?

978
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: And how do you get that body of work? Like

979
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: I said, things were like shifting a little bit, you know,

980
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: just like within the label. And you know it was

981
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: big contracts, you know what I mean. My advance for

982
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: my second album was like a million hours those days over. Yeah.

983
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: I never told nobody that, but yeah, it was a

984
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: big sigh. You know, I cut it. So now you

985
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: heard it. You heard it a little thing, you know,

986
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: But then imagine what the third one was supposed to be,

987
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. Then it all kind of made

988
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: sense to me. But you know, I can't cryd with

989
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: that spilled milk because you know, I'm in a position

990
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: now to put out two or three projects a year

991
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: if I wanted to. Like I said, I gave them

992
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: five mixtapes in the one year, right, and one of

993
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: my most you know revealed projects, Cold Corner too, form

994
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: from that energy, you know what I mean. So if

995
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't in that zone, who knows. We get the

996
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: mixtapes on his DSPs. Man, we gotta figure out how

997
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: to get that work. You know. Just more is more

998
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: now again like when we came in the game, more

999
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: was more. How do you think I had the best

1000
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: of banks? Take? Yeah, nobody was telling me not as

1001
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: too many you know freestyles to tell you that he's

1002
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: gotta have another album this year, That's what I heard.

1003
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: But you approach music differently now because I read when

1004
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: you made be Benza Bentley, you were forced to make

1005
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: an album out of that, right, So you approach it

1006
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: different like I make the bulk of it, right, See

1007
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: those records like Beam Benza Bentley, I write them very fast,

1008
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: like maybe thirty minutes tops. Right, I would have to

1009
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: beat for a while prior to be rapp into it.

1010
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: But I know what comes with that, right, So like

1011
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: the whole Batman ship just goes away, right, you know,

1012
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: like Batman just pops up when some ship is going down.

1013
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: When you gotta hit record, it's more than popping up

1014
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: when it is going down. You got to do a lot. Yeah, immediately,

1015
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you could imagine delivering

1016
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: that joint and don't have the bulk of what should

1017
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: come after it, and didn't after the pressure of making

1018
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: another one, then another one and another one. Say a

1019
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: lot of artists that will come with a record and

1020
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: have three of them after that. Sound like the same

1021
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: producer did it? Yeah, do the same thing? Replicated I didn't. Yeah,

1022
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: I didn't really do that. Maybe I should have been.

1023
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: Do you feel better now with your catalog that it's

1024
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: like almost like this like what is this next? What

1025
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: is this next? Run me for you? It's just look

1026
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: at it. Do you feel like it's a thing of

1027
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: like we'd all respect the fifty or g unit. This

1028
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: is like Lloyd Bank's time and like a very singular

1029
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: way of like yeah, because it's a different banks, you

1030
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm in a comfortable zone now,

1031
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: so where it's like, uh, like I said, it's my

1032
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: selfish moment. I got so many stories in my head.

1033
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: I got so many things that I want to do,

1034
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, conceptually, like I'm gonna sun people up, you

1035
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because I don't want to, you know,

1036
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: give too much away. But they'll see, you know, in

1037
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: the next few times they see me, They're gonna understand

1038
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: what I mean, you know. And it's funny, like, um,

1039
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: I had put a tweet up responding to somebody saying,

1040
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: like anybody checking for banks? Right, I understand like to

1041
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: know me, you know why, I do have a sense

1042
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: of humor, right. I never thought that they would take

1043
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: that literal like you know what I mean, Like when

1044
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I'm saying, like anybody checking for banks? Yeah,

1045
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: but that's not how you see them on Yeah, I'm like, damn,

1046
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: they read that wrong. Yeah, Like that's all I know.

1047
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: What they got spread like wildfire. It made me look

1048
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: like you're like I'm a season Like yeah, I'm too

1049
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: fucking dope. You think you think I meant that I'll

1050
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: bought you up. So what does that Monica Lazy Lloyd

1051
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: come from? I think you had the tattooed on. Yeah's

1052
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: with you? It came from Lazy Bone Really. Yeah. I

1053
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: never told nobody except I actually met him for the

1054
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: first time. I had like a little toil in Texas

1055
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: with with Bone Thugs and Slim Doug. Shout out to

1056
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: slimp Doug always showed me love from this again. But yeah,

1057
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: when I when I bumped into I told him, I said, Yo,

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00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: you know my name came from you. Wow, So you

1059
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: like the seventh member. Everybody don't sit here act like

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Speaker 1: banks with that cad and stuff. Man, you got to

1061
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: hit him with that. Man, that's a lot they don't know.

1062
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: You gotta go back to those old mixtapes. Different a

1063
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: lot of different flows. And it was crazy how like

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00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: everything will come like three sixty because the rest in

1065
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: peace to night Tupac passed. I was at that concert

1066
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: and I'm that so called sing and Bone Dogs was

1067
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: performing Bone Dogs the Firm Keep Sweat, which was like weird.

1068
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Speaker 1: He was like the only yeah, but I remember like them.

1069
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: Their production was crazy man, they had like they had

1070
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: like paybe like fifty people twenty five people on east

1071
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: side with the big pickets with the skeletons on the

1072
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: top post the boards and smoke and she looked like

1073
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: the up and smoke tool like it was. And I

1074
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: was like, damn from flipping books and just watching on

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00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: h I missed my uncle Choge. Yeah, I'm the coming

1076
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: away this knowing what like a student of the game

1077
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: you are and like to respect you have for the coast. Man.

1078
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: I loved. I loved the game part of our lives. Man.

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00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: I remember I remember exactly the moment doing that record,

1080
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: like the studio, the vibe up everything. We just came

1081
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: back off the road and we touched the studio. That excitement, man,

1082
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: and probably still to this day. Yeah, the studio was

1083
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: like that. It was ship. Yeah, I get to like

1084
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: get my voice out. I remember the first time heard

1085
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: my voice cut through the mic West in Peace, my man,

1086
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: rough fans, fans. We was in a studio, First Choice Studios.

1087
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: It was almost like remember on Hustling Flow. It was

1088
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: like that, like that's me because I never heard how

1089
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: deep my voice was to me, My man is crazy.

1090
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: We used to like recording ourselves on like I don't know,

1091
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: like a little tape players day and just pressed play

1092
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: and record or however, and then we had a little

1093
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: examples of it, but it was rough. It still was

1094
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: sounding like I'm tending feet away. Now, I'm like, Who's

1095
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: Who's that? That's how my voice sound, so the voice

1096
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: that they know today. It was like I was experiencing

1097
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: it for the first time and ever since that, I

1098
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we gotta get back to the studio.

1099
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Is ill? Yeah with you guys that other people's instrumentals,

1100
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: like the eight More Mile, that particular record, I didn't

1101
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: it was unfamiliar with Eminem's version, but I knew you

1102
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: guys version. Yeah, So countless joint m Show felt like

1103
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: the template to a lot of the early mixtapes. Eminem

1104
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: Show was the first concert that that's what I met Eminem.

1105
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: I think it was in Jersey and I watched it

1106
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: with Paul Rosenberg from like the The Sounds. That ship

1107
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: was incredible to me to see that production, the clowns

1108
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: and a table Wow ship that was the one right

1109
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: with the Yeah that's crazy rest in piece of proof um.

1110
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: The way he used to be on that stage is crazy. Man.

1111
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, and um he has some dope production that

1112
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: it was crazy, Yeah until I collapsed. Was on that project.

1113
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was the freestyle that let off when

1114
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: the deal happened. That was on a big h that

1115
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: was was unpopular some classic Times remembers everything, remembers everything, right,

1116
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: he remembers everything in detail. It me it comes back

1117
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: a little ship, you know what I mean. But when

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01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: we get to talking, the times was just like I

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: just remembered something too. I heard a room. I don't

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01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: know if you could confirm or denied, but there was

1121
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: a moment he was supposed to sign with Good Music.

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01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: Was that happening. It was a time after being bents,

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01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: like going into whatever would have happened after that, um

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01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Chris Lidy. He was kind of like

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01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: the person that was linking that together. So it was

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01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: at one point it was supposed to be a g

1127
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: unit music music type of situation. He's on a Christian

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Speaker 1: dr Denim Flow and all that stuff. Person Denim Flow

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Speaker 1: I was on. I was on other records too that

1130
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: never came out or whatever. Business didn't get you know done. Yeah,

1131
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: that was probably like what two thousand, ten eleven, yea

1132
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: aund that time, it was some dope times. Man going

1133
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: in the studio and you know, Kanyev there, John Legend

1134
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: be over there, Kate Putty. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1135
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: I never well since I was in there with like

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Speaker 1: the whole Shady Aftermath days. That was like my first

1137
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: time being in with a crew that had different Yeah,

1138
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: Bryan Leslie on the keys over here, push your te

1139
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know it was a

1140
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Speaker 1: fun home Sweet Home that was hard to sweet Homes. Crazy.

1141
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: We shot that video because of push your teeth, Like, yo,

1142
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: we gotta shoot this, you know what I mean? That

1143
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: was crazy. It's funny because it's like, you have so

1144
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: much admiration for Piers, but at the same time, you

1145
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: hate being compared to niggas you said on Propane. He

1146
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: was like, how you don't compare me to niggas without

1147
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: a classic album? How many people we get out of?

1148
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: How many classes do you have banks off hand? How

1149
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: many unique that's why? How many do you need? And

1150
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: like I I don't feel like I made my best album.

1151
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't still, Yeah, no, I know I haven't.

1152
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: I am though it's inevitable, it's inevitable. That's a promise

1153
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: I am and and like I said, it's coming back

1154
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: to more is more now? Yeah? Right? So if you

1155
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: dropped one project a year and I dropped two or

1156
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: vice versa, doesn't that play into your list? You get that,

1157
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: let's get it together, be that I want to rank you.

1158
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't have the audacity to rak you with the

1159
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: style that you invented things. You know, you know what

1160
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: I would you know what? I would love to see?

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01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: What's that? Because I always I think I might have

1162
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: said this once. What like if you niggas knew or

1163
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: could see some of your favorite artists in the room

1164
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: with me, Oh, it might change your perception because it's

1165
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: a difference between like, all right, this is your preference.

1166
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: Let's just keep things in perspective. You preference him as

1167
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: your favorite, but do you know what he thinks of me?

1168
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: So if you take that top ten whist right, and

1169
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: you put us all in the studio, how many verses

1170
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: are gonna come from me? How many is gonna come

1171
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: from him? Him him him him. I'm gonna be the

1172
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: last one walking out that room. Shoo. That's just a fact,

1173
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: that's not you know what I mean. So if you're

1174
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: the p ok who's the pop what's that the point line?

1175
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: Prince my son the Queen's energy. Man, Thanks, thank you,

1176
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: brother Special brought us back outside. I appreciate anybody that

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: brought the album that's streaming inevitable to the inevitable too.

1178
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: It was done in four sessions, might get another one

1179
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: fourth quarter yo, be I'm telling you they're not. That's

1180
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: the beauty of you know this ever right now right

1181
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: because people will be going to freestyle. They think it's

1182
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: all phones are okay these days. Jada Kids did it again?

1183
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: Nigger go collect Now that's it. That's another one of

1184
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: like man ever since the beginning. You know, he always

1185
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: had some positive ship to say to me. Man, Yeah, yeah,

1186
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: of course you know what I mean. The collaborator. Uh,

1187
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: just just all these notes if they're still in here

1188
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: and they just not record it yet. Those rhymes, yeah,

1189
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: these all rhyme sham freestyles that should like to take commandments. Man,

1190
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: it's like just goes just keeps going and goings're still going.

1191
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: That's how you feel, you know what I'm saying. That's

1192
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: how you feel like. It's really just about you know,

1193
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: you could buy you can buy five shoes with different

1194
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: color ways but it might rain, you know what I mean,

1195
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: and you just maybe you get two of them, all

1196
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: three of them all. But the main thing is you

1197
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: ain't getting low like this is there where you can banks.

1198
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Even when I'm low, You're gonna pay

1199
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Speaker 1: for what was going on in my mind at the

1200
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: time I was low. That's my mutes, that's my therapycause

1201
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm still right and I'm still staying shock ye. You

1202
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean that I'm preserving myself and with

1203
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: the with the intentions to come back like I never left.

1204
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: And I'm excited more now than ever. I appreciate guys

1205
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: like yourself, you know, for giving me this platform, and

1206
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: I just want I want the newer generation to stay honest,

1207
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Let's let's let's keep going.

1208
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: Shout out to Bobby Smdo bumped in him last night.

1209
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: So Jack pot man, let's stay young man. There you go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it right up. Podcast rapp rator As an

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Speaker 1: Interval presents original production from hyper House, produced by Laura Wasser,

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01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: hosts and producers Elliot Wilson and Brian B. Dot Miller.

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01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: Her Medival presents executive producers Alan Coy and Jay Kleinberg,

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01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: executive producer Paul Rosenberg, editing his sound design by Dylan

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01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: Alexander Freeman, recording engineer Mike Urban, visual director Josh Perez,

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Speaker 1: operations lead Sarah You, business development lead Chef e Ellen Swagg,

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Speaker 1: and marketing lead Samara Still. Make sure to follow Rapperator

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