WEBVTT - Episode 165 w/ Freeway Rick Ross 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.920 And his Drink Chess Motherfucking Podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.320 He's Sagres your boy in O r E. He's a 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.720 Miami hippopper pioneer. One up is d j e FN 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.279 Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.600 in the most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.199 source for drunk back drin Chess motherfucking is New year' 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.560 z that time for drink champs, Drink up the mother 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.839 What he could be one? Your boy O right? What 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.000 up is dj e f F F is militating motherfucking Happy Hour? 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.200 Almost said Militiam in Crazy Rod Radio, Al wants you 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.960 actually that right? Well, let me just tell you something. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.000 When we started this show, we wanted to big up 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:03.840 people who are legend in this game and people who 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.200 are groundbreakers. When we talk about this man right now, 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.080 this man has broke the mold when it came to 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:14.400 being entrepreneur. Rather than just lowering it's just drug dealing. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.800 He has took himself from nothing. I believe he started 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.560 operation from three hundred dollars and the man made close 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:25.560 to a billion dollars in the age. The man has 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.640 since his time, he's still here doing what he gotta do, 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.400 saying in pride, you know, have his children, uh to 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.800 the tests of times and was a part of the 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.119 c I A contra controversy and he's still alive, still 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.800 here to prove it. I was watching the documentary knowing documentaries, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.400 knowing I'm gonna see him today. Is still scared of this. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.400 She's like, Oh, I think they're gonna kill him, like 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.240 from back then, from back there, like you know the 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.800 city that he enough Like if you don't know what 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.480 we're talking to, we're talking about. We're talking about the legendary, 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:04.080 the motherfucking monumentum freeway. Rick not one of the one 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.720 of the one of the curious things that Mr Leak 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.000 he posted the Champagne Police. Don't make it salid a gunshot, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:12.440 a lot of tangs in here. We don't like it. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.280 Don't like that. So one of the one of the 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.880 crazy things was you wasn't born in South central n 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.720 You're actually born in Texas. But it was was five 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.440 years old. We moved about four okay, maybe right right 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.600 right before five okay. Because you know why it was 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.520 funny because you're demeanor with sometimes when I see you, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.600 when I look at you. You You mind me of a 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.600 little jack, And that's why I thought maybe, like you know, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.280 like it just did to me. You know man that 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.120 you know we come from the same area. You know, 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.239 he from Houston. I'm from Tyland, right right, right right, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.080 So so goddamn, I don't know where the start. I 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.919 told you to stop that. So first of all, I 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.800 don't know if you know, but the drink chance, this 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.520 is a place where we pick up our legends. We 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.480 want to get on their flowers. Now. So many people 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.400 when people passed away, they want to say how great 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.040 they were, and you know, the bitch very and the people. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.160 The people get up there and say how holyer than 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.320 now and how much this guy changed to later at 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.160 this point, we want to give people their flowers now. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.400 One of the craziest things in the world. And I 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.880 knew we got Dominican hit, but I had always start 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:22.240 a Dominican invented crack that Washington stories to the out 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.400 side of the s is they they got the wild cowboys, right, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.800 the wild Cowboys. No, no, no, But you know what, 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:33.799 after your story comes out, then the story is fixed. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.800 But I always had grew up thinking that a Dominican 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.000 kid from Washington Heights was playing with cocaine and just 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.160 invented crack. Can you tell me my child hold sucked 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.880 up because I was wrong? Can tell me first to 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.960 my face, you can tell me you can't give a glass. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:54.880 Let's take it from there. Yeah, well I didn't invent crack, right, Okay, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:00.120 when I'm credit for its being the first crack you 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.440 in the now. When I started, there was guys in 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:08.920 the street that was already cooking up very few though, right, Um, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.160 I got it from them. Okay, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.160 And was the base first? Because base was like it 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:18.640 was free base, right, freebasing was it was a real complex. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.279 This whole table would be full of chemicals when I 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.520 first started, it was real complicated. Ether that's what Richard 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.080 Prod got burned up. The Richard burned up. He was base. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.960 It was flatable, a lot of hazardous equipment. And then uh, 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.000 one day when the homies came and he said, man, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.320 it's better when you use baking soda and U since 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:48.279 sounds healthier for something. That's from how we uh got 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.120 the recipe? Right now? Who invented it? I really know 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.000 you know the story? Ben? So Now when I'm watching 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.120 what was it, Cracks in the System, that's my documentary, 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.360 don't watching it. I forget who said, I don't forget. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.520 It was the c I A or Cia guy, or 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:09.560 was the newspaper guy. And he said that when he 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.600 when he further looked at it, it really wasn't like 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.719 it was racism. It wasn't really really like they was 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.640 just trying to kill black They was trying to um 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:25.160 get whoever blocks Michael vena agent who worked over in Colombia, Peru. Uh, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.760 and he was based out of New York. So that's 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.560 who that was. And he said that he's one of 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.400 the first ones to see it, uh, even before it 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:37.200 got to the US at that time, talking about yeah, 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.800 it was paced. Yeah, and he knew that once it 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.279 got over here that it was gonna have a devastating effect, 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.159 but he didn't know where it was gonna have a 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.200 devastating effect. Because when he's trying to say, it's like 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.160 you're saying it was more political, Yeah, because it's racial. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.919 I had always I had always heard here on the controst. Again, 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.360 nobody really know about the racist thing that that that happened. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.440 I mean, it's far just say, you know, did the 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.760 government and liberally put it in the community for blacks. Uh, 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.240 that it was affecting certain neighborhoods at some point and 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.039 let it keep going. Well, I've always heard um me 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.520 growing up thinking I had always heard me growing up 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:19.000 that it was actually invented for the black panthers to 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.120 destroy them, like like, you know, get a couple of 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.440 people again, I'm getting the East Coast. I'm play one 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.640 years old, so I'm I'm a lot you know what 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.200 i mean, younger than what's happening, but I'm old enough 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.839 to almost understand. So that's what I used to hear. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.480 What one of the things, you know, the black leaders 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.480 always said that the government was bringing drugs into the country, 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:42.680 right fact, Uh, Elijah Mohammed Malcolm x us No, No, 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:51.159 they always said that it was a government that they 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.239 were exactly. I mean, what what wind up happening with 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.000 with with my situation is that it brought all of 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.880 this for a front of the future and they had 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.440 actual evidence for the first time where they could tie 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:10.080 a government operative directly with a street dug. Right now, 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.600 when you were doing it, did you know the level 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.760 you would at because you were the first one, so 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:20.360 so like you all black Pablo basketball, So how like, well, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:21.960 you know you gotta you gotta look at it like 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:28.600 this here. I was nineteen when I started. Damn, uh 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.920 couldn't read, couldn't write. Then watch the news, uh All, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.920 I saw what the big homies was trying to do, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.640 and I saw what they was making their mistakes. I 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:43.840 went in and corrected their mistakes and made basically my 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.760 own form of of getting down. I had no clue 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.760 about the war, Nigga Rockwood, where my man was. I mean, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.120 I wouldn't ask my man where you live, you know 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.840 what I'm saying. That's just something you just don't do 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.440 that in the game. You know, Like if he wants 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.800 you to know where he lived, he gonna take you 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.880 to his house exactly. You know what I'm saying. If 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:03.880 he don't want you over his house around his wife 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.160 and his kids, you don't go around his wife a kid. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.280 That's just how the game was. So I never really 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.880 questioned how the whole thing was was was lined up. Now. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.480 He had mentioned to me before, Uh, we're fighting a 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.000 war in my country and we gotta win to get 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.240 out property iman back. So I understood that because I 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.720 was fighting from my land. When when you think he's 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.600 saying that, you're thinking, you're not thinking soldiers at military, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.520 You're thinking thinking blessing cricks. Yeah, I would think that's 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.079 what I was thinking. He had right, he's done with 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.320 the Santhinisas and all that stuff like. Correct, he's in 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.000 the Contract Dealing Act, fighting against the Sandinisas. I don't 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:47.920 know nothing about the Sandinistas, I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.960 knew it was all covert ship going on. It was, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:52.920 but it was people in the country that knew that 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.840 there was a war going on in Nicaragua, that America 0:08:56.000 --> 0:09:00.120 was fighting this war, and uh, that the contract had 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.760 lost the war basically and they had to be pushed 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:08.200 into the US. Uh. They also knew that these guys 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.559 still wanted to win this war, and that these guys 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.040 that start selling drugs. I mean, the CIA admitted that 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:19.120 in their report that eventually they became aware that these 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.680 guys weren't just fighting the war over there with the 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.840 money that they had got from the government, but they 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.680 had took this money. Uh, my informant who was also 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:31.439 my drug supplier, when he testified what's his name, you 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.240 didn't know any of that, that he was any of 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.439 that government was oh no, no, no, no, no no, no. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.680 I thought. I mean, you know, when when you're growing 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:43.120 up in South Central we have a dislike for the police, 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.839 you know, I mean I didn't send on the curb 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:47.880 when I was four fifteen years old, you know, getting 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.320 the curve sho down, don't move, put your bike right there. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.439 You know, all y'all shitting on the curb. Don't nobody move. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.040 We're gonna run everybody. We're gonna make sure these bikes 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:00.000 ain't still. So we already had a dislike for the police, 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.120 distrust for the police. So, uh, it was no way 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.560 that we would have been informed that this operation was 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.400 going on. You know, this had to be something where 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.480 you was politically uh connected to really being a loop 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:14.839 on this. And like one of the first time the 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.280 police chase you, they shot at you, like a few times. 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.000 It wasn't like put your hands up, it was like, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.480 let's kill them a few times. Well, you know, you 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:31.320 know I got so big and I was able to 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.320 outmaneuver the cops. You know, they couldn't figure out why 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.120 they couldn't catch me with no drugs, you know, why 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.480 would they would raide my houses? And it would never 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:44.280 be drugs in my houses. So they got mad. You 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:54.079 couldn't live with Instagram, ball cameras, cameras. Oh no, no, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.120 absolutely correct, because back then we could hide more. You know, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.440 pody didn't know how you. Nobody knew how you love. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.440 They don't know how you dress. You know, they're looking 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.640 for this guy driving around and you didn't have a 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.520 police record back then. No, I didn't have a continue 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.840 This is crazy. So they didn't know. All they knew 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.240 was Freeway Rick. You know, they don't know my full name, 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.320 they don't know my address, they don't know who my 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.199 girlfriend is. They don't know really nothing about me. The 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.960 only thing that they know the first time that that 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.800 that I got tipped about them about this this task 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.000 force is uh, my gardener had had had came in 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.760 the house one day and he was like, man, hold on, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.360 let's make some lords for you. Having a gardener back 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:38.000 of the day is just getting gardeners in the nineties. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.720 Right now, I mean the task force is not it's 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.520 prior to d A. They're prior to d They just 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.320 with what they did with the task force is City 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.720 Hall had a meeting and they say that people in 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.640 the neighborhood kept bragging about this young guy, freeway Rick, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.839 who's having all this money. So city council did it. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.600 They had a meeting and they took five of the 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.600 toughest police stations in Los Angeles and put them together 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.960 and they called him the Freeway Task Force. These cops 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.000 job was to bring me down. Um along the way, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:20.680 they started stealing money, robbing people, forging search warrants. I mean, 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.160 they was some of the biggest crooks that you ever 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:28.280 want to see. So um My Gardener was the first 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.200 one that tipped me off to the Freeway Task Force. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.600 I didn't know nothing about him, so he tipped me off, 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.400 and Uh that started a whole another Uh what do 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.319 he said, he's seen police coming around or something? No, 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.400 he have. He brought me a newspaper article. It was 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.600 in the newspaper. The city council had had this meeting 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.160 and and so I didn't read the newspaper, so I 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.840 wouldn't have never called it. But he brought it to 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.800 my attention that it was in the newspaper and they 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:55.559 had one of my houses inside the paper, where this 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.959 informant that they had called was talking about. My house 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.000 was protected by the police. He said that every time 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.400 he came over to Robb the house that it's always 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:11.040 police in the area to protect the house. Now, I 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:18.280 never saw that, you know, you're not. So that was 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.560 my first time becoming aware of them. They had never 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.320 raided none of my houses. At that time, I had 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.480 no no police contact. I mean, we was like just 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.720 running free and wild. You know, we at this particular house. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.240 This is where our race cars. We didn't we didn't 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.360 even have dope at that house. That was like our 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.000 house where we kept our race cars. You know, we 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.439 had top fuel cars and in approached our race cars 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.840 and bikes and on the side was on the side 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.880 of the freeway like we always stayed. You know, that's 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.600 where I got the name from. Um. That was like 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.800 our drag strip. So we just clowned and partied and 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.480 you know, had mad sound equipment and barbecue and every 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.080 day and people would just be coming in and crips 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.000 and bloods and you know, more like a meeting spot. No, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.160 no dope wouldn't be there and if they ready to house, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.280 you ain't gonna find no dope. Um. But we found 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.200 out that they were watching that house. So that was 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.840 the first time that we became aware of the Freeway 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.560 Task Force. Not not only you, like, um, you were 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:17.040 like the first person that at least back then, because 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.360 we thought the Bloods and Crypts were really killing each other, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.560 like they couldn't be in the same vicinity. It was. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.560 I remember, that's the first time I heard that there 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.400 was a guy that dealt with the Bloods. Yeah. Well, 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.600 you know what what happened is is what I found out, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.520 and a lot of my guys find out that when 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.800 it came to money, guys will put their differences down. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.960 You know. It's it's very rarely that that that happened. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.480 But um, it started to be where crips was selling 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.880 on blood streets and Bloods were setting on crypt streets, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.000 where they were more corporation than than than than the 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.720 world knew about. And it was just about making money. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.680 You know, when you're making money, you having fun. Do 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.000 nobody want no killing and no shooting because it's gonna 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.040 bring the cops in. So um, that was the first 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:03.800 time that, uh that I had seen since the beginning. Uh, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.920 I reven want the Bloods and crypt Us play football 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.200 against each other. It was like this neighborhood against that neighborhood. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.520 And they would come. And one day we were at 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.040 the beach. We broughe our bikes to the beach. When 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:20.200 we got back behind beach, uh d is the one 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.440 right by the house, the closest to the house, about 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.240 five miles from where we grew up. So when we 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.880 got back, we see the tape all taped off and 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.880 the police is there. Well, one of the crips had 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.800 killed one of the main bloods and that started the 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.880 first clash UH in our area, which the crypts started 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:44.200 in our area. I thought Raymond Washington was a jacket 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.160 or summer that was something that happened prior to that, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.160 uh at the Palladium or something that may have been 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.320 later on down the line. Yeah, this was after h 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.160 This was like when when the crips had first organized. 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:05.680 Yeah this seventy maybe like seventy eight, seventy nine ish 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.880 something like that there. Um, But how did you avoid 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:13.000 um like being able to deal with both? Well, when 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.000 I was young, I wanted to be a crip. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.560 I mean I was die hard on being a crip. Uh. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.680 But my mom was one of the ones that you know, 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.600 you don't play with my mom and she didn't. She 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.960 didn't whoop you, she beat you. My mom takes the 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.920 telephone car, didn't whoop the belt switch? No, no, no, no, no, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.040 you're gonna break that belt. You're gonna break that switch 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.520 to my mom will get the Stenson car. And uh 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.200 when you went to school the next day, you had 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:40.920 web marks on you high and then you don't want 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:46.320 nobody to see you. So moms weren't having it. Um. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.480 So when I got twelve, I started playing tennis. Yeah, 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:53.000 and I did. I did at the Ash came down 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.560 to our school, uh high school. I was. I was 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.280 good enough to go to one of the best black 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.960 tennis teams high school tennis teams, and in l A 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.280 and Arthur Ash came out and gave everybody on the 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:09.000 team awards and and played with like four the top guys. Uh. Yeah, 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.240 I did get the meat Ash. One time, I would 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.360 think neighborhood kids will try to take your rackets from 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:23.320 your song tennis racket. What now you said, you little 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.879 figure role right now? Figure that's oh that's the bag 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.720 because that was a part of the figure or South 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.560 Central sent you. Okay, who I always thought figure roys 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.480 where the Prosser teams were Okay, I always thought that 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:39.439 for some reason reading Donald Goings books or forget what 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.679 author I've read, Figure Roller, I always thought it was 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.320 in the big area when Figure Roy is one of 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.239 the main UH through ways in Los Angeles, it's like 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.800 maybe the second or third biggest street in in l A. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.040 And then Figure World runs side by side with the 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.720 One Team Freeway. They separate each other, and my house 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.760 set right in between Figure Role and the One Team three. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.040 So that's where Freeway. That's where Freeway came in there. Now, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.800 did you hold on before I get to the rap shot, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.159 I don't want to go to the just still up 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:14.240 the drop skid. You got something going in my notes, 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:20.919 I mean it goes beyond you helped Denzel Washington. That 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.960 was that was HARRYO. Harris. Michael Harris did that. You 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.399 didn't need the Baker, But I didn't even using a 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.520 part none of that you. I mean, And Harry was 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.200 we was we was cool, you know, we was potting this. 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.000 But I wasn't a part of him with his with 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.679 his play checkmate. We were we were kind of like 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:42.600 almost like uh, kind of like rivals but not really rivals, 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.560 you know what I'm saying, Uh, Because he claimed, Uh, 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.119 I set actually right. I think he was blood. I 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.639 think he grew up with the blood. But then he 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.960 you know, he ran with the sixties too. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.560 I mean you know when when when you become a 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.040 certain statish in the in the game, you have have 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.400 to transcend past that gang banging you know what hoo 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.320 did you from? What set you from? Uh? Even like 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:11.359 with me, I didn't gang bang, but my neighborhood is Hoover, 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.920 and everybody considers me even as jail, the Hoovers told 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.320 everybody I was Hoover, even though I say no, I 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:24.960 ain't Hoover. I say no, you Hoover. So it's still 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:30.280 hard to transcend that. But I still deal with the sixties, 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.760 which was Hooverish number one enemy. That's my next question. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.000 How you think you were saying that? But well, you know, 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.680 you just have to be bigger than than than the situation, 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:41.959 and and a lot of times you have to make 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:43.439 up your own mind. Like me and Big You, you 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.119 know we men, Big You like that Big up for 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.000 you were about to get get him in this game. 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.320 Bring yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my man. Big You doing 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:54.040 some big things out there too, you know, um, but men, 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:58.240 Big Ben Partner's uh Pete Whack who Who's I don't 0:19:58.240 --> 0:19:59.959 know how much time Whack doing right now. He might 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.879 be doing about forty years. But he's one of the 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.920 founders of the sixties and we've always been cool. So 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:12.600 I was able to transcend the neighborhood politics. You know, 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.800 I didn't allow the politics to dictate which direction I 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:17.840 was going to. You know why, you're a strong minded 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.840 person because me being from the East Coast and not 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.080 seeing the blood and I see in the crypt when 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.160 I seen it on television, I automatically was gravitated towards 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.360 that life, like I automatically wanted to study it, automatically 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:30.760 wanted to be a part of it. So when you'll 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.280 be involved and be able to say, you know what 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.680 I'm gonna be, that's probably like the most disciplined plenary 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:38.680 and type of ship I've ever heard, you know what 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.400 I'm sa And you know, us as blacks, we don't 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.280 have much that we can be a part of, you 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.440 know what I'm saying. So that when I was coming 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:49.680 up to see the cameravity with the Cripts and the Bloods, 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.639 you know what I knew been putting to the founder 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.520 of the Blood. That was my man be putting up. 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.360 Matter of fact, right before he died, I was trying 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.680 to get big putting to write a book. I was 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.639 still locked up. Yeah, I talked to you too, I 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.280 believe when I was locked up. I don't know as 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:05.880 soon as you got you just got out of print. 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.200 Windy Day. But Wendy Day, Okay, I was not throw 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:10.920 out on the phone. Told I talked to you through 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:17.320 um what's my homeboy from the Jungles? Uh? Yeah, many, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.280 I think Windy it was really okay okay, because she 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.679 was telling me about when he was getting out. You know, Wendy. 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:30.160 You know Wendy Day, help everybody. Ye, yes, you in jail, 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.800 Winy Day, and you got a reputation when Day big 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.520 up the Windy Day. That's absolutely and that's my girl. 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:40.120 Let me hit you with this this this, this word, 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:46.080 because this messed me up. Continuous criminal spree. Yeah, that's 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.640 the words that got me out. I still don't understand, 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.200 like like when you said that the difference. You can't 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:57.000 understand the difference between okay, career criminal okay, and a 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:05.120 continuous criminal spree. A career criminal is somebody who commits 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.399 a crime, go to jail and it does it again, 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:12.720 get out and then do it again. A continuous criminal 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:16.560 spree is meaning that you're committing crime over and over 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.640 and over and over and over and over and over 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.159 and over and over and over and over, but you 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:27.320 have been arrested. So it's a continuous criminal spree. But 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:33.080 I don't know the difference. Sounds good, okay, So one 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:37.159 means so continuous spree means you're doing it, doing it 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:41.960 without getting caught, right, So if you uninterrupted, okay, that's 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.840 a spree. So that's how you'd be your case. Because 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.160 they said that you had the three strike law, because 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.240 they used that as they said that my case was 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.920 a three strike. I was a three striker even though 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.919 I don't eve been in jail one time. So I 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.360 figured out that what I was doing was a continuous 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.880 criminal even though it was in different states. See, they 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.679 thought because I was setting open Texas and Cincinnati and 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:11.640 Louisiana and St. Louis that all of those was different arrests. Right. 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.320 But what I tried to have to get them to 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.960 understand is that it was a continuous criminal spree that 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:21.840 was uninterrupted and in order to be a career criminal, 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:27.000 you have to be brought to your senses. See, and 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.000 you're not a continued uh career criminal if you're not 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:44.320 brought to your senses. If nobody ef yeah, I mean 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:46.360 I got, I got my public defender. You know, he's 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.960 working with me and he's writing everything up. But this 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.720 as you reading yourself, I still can't right there. Well, 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.720 you know I couldn't write the briefs and none of that, 0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.159 but I know what I wanted my brief You know, 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.600 I read, so you read. I read the books to 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:04.200 know what the briefs supposed to say and and and uh, 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:06.080 like I said, I was. I was in the books 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.800 all day. I started too. When you came across those words, 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:14.000 you understood those words immediately, absolutely absolutely, because like I 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.320 get what you're saying, but it's still complicated, like what 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.840 you're saying, Oh, no question. The judge didn't understand it. 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:23.600 She didn't understand you. She just didn't understand my prosecute. 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:25.879 My lawyer didn't. I paid that dude a lot of 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:30.200 money due the dude who did my peel. The dud 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.679 who did my peel wasn't in love the judge, the 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:36.360 guardian who went to trial with me. My trial lawyer said, hey, man, 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:39.879 that little money you got left, put it on your books. 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.040 Keep that because you're gonna need it. You got a 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.800 lot of time to do. In fact, I had to 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:50.440 go with another dude who hadn't even talked to me, 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.240 you know what I'm saying before, So I had to 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.440 get him to understand what I was saying too, because 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:59.680 he didn't really understand it either. They was all more 0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:04.840 can serned about crossing state lines. So you're saying, if 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.000 you got caught twice, the nick could have proved that 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.680 you was, it would have been a correct convicted twice. 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:13.400 You could have you got caught more than twice, but convicted, right. 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.520 And I've been convicted twice. But it was the same 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:29.000 criminal spree I went to. I went to Texas and 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:33.840 I said, I'm guilty. I went to Cincinnati, I'm guilty, Louis, 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.760 I'm guilty. But it was still I never got out 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.159 of handcuffs. See, they took me from one state to 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:41.879 the next day to the next day. I was never 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.120 bout the handcuffs. I was always like this here everywhere 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:46.680 I went. It wasn't like I got out and I'm friend, 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.560 and then I started slinging again and got caught. It 0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.760 was like, oh no, you've been in this state this day. 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:53.680 Then we all been looking for you. So when they 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.840 got me, everybody want a piece of me. Wow. So 0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.560 let me let me ask you something that's a little 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.960 off subing, but it's on subject right. How could every 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:08.360 movie or every every like ending to something always says 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.320 this is the last one, like this is the last 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.359 And when I'm watching your document should be you're saying 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.600 you're out, you came home, you build a community setting. 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.760 It's hard, man, It's hard not to go back, you know, 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:25.560 to the whale. You know, when everything's get tough and uh, 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.840 you have a tendency to go back to your habits. 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:30.680 You know. Like a person who started trying to stop 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.240 smoking cigarettes and his wife started acting up. He picked 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.600 up a cigarette. You know what I'm saying, something go wrong. 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.200 He picked up a cigarette. So with me, my crutch 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.359 had become selling cocaine. Cocaine made everything better for me, 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.960 no matter what was going on. I could go sales 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:49.440 from cocaine and get it up right, acting up, I 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.040 gonna make some money now she felt good. You know 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.800 what I'm saying, uh, so so so we have a 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.560 tendency to go back to crutches, and cocaine have become 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:03.080 for me a crutch because one of my how we 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.680 were so poor. Right, let me tell you I was 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.280 the first time when I got to jail, I run 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.199 across the dude I went to junior high school with 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:15.560 right and uh when we run into each other with man, 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.919 you Joseph Petrie and he's like Rick. Man, He's like, 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.720 and I heard about you, but I didn't believe it. 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.520 I was like, what you mean? He I couldn't believe 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.760 you made that kind of money. I said, why not? 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.919 He said, Man, you was a poor dude in the neighborhood. 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.840 He said, I remember when used to take tennis shoes, 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.320 tennis balls to your tennis shoes to keep your feet 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:38.879 from being on the ground. And you and your brothers 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.440 U should change pens with the same pants every day. 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:47.399 We all knew y'all was running each other's so so 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:54.159 to to too come from there to wonder where I 0:27:54.240 --> 0:28:00.119 wound up. Money had become my escape. You know, that 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.480 was like everything that I wanted. I didn't want nothing else. 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.919 I wanted to to to fix my mama. Floors. I 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:08.720 wanted to put windows in her house. I want a 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.439 new carpet in her house. I wanted to have a 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:16.080 new kitchen. Uh, to do the things that I felt 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.880 would make her life the way I thought that should be. 0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.080 You know, this is my mama, that's how she should 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.000 be living. And uh, that was my goal. And then 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:30.080 nothing else really matter, and um let's make some looksture. 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:35.800 I got that. That's real ship. That's a real ship, 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.880 like you know, Uh no, no, we'll do a little 0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.520 bit more than them. To come back to that. I 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.400 got so much going on in my head. Yeah, you 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.000 got so much to a very interesting guy, like and 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.520 I think about it, let's getting more in the resting up. 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.720 And I think about it as this. A lot of 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.160 people would have been in your position and came home 0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:59.000 and did it again. Well you know, I mean I 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:00.760 did it that second time time. You know, I did 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.120 the food that second time when you as famous that 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.720 second time or like you know what I'm saying in 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.440 the streets, I was like the dog boys knew me. 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.040 It's it's it's almost like right now, you know, like 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.960 like uh now you TMZ famous. Don't work around nigga, 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:19.560 don't work around. Still, it's still it's still when what 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:23.080 I what I know about my my famousness because I study, 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:28.680 I study everything that I do. I study. Um, the 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:35.080 people who like me usually dough boys first of course, 0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:40.200 next hustlers, hero and athletes. So it's really a male 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.080 base of guys who are trying to get money or 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.120 who like money, either one both of those already the same. 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:49.280 You can't separate the two. That's my fan base. Those 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.080 are the people who who bought my book, you know, 0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:53.640 like it was guys in the street brought my books. 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.000 And man, I can't even read Rick, but fuck it. 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.160 You know, I learn so much from you from the 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.400 videos and when you went to trial, and I used 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:10.120 that ship right now, So uh, I understand who support 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.200 me and who who who liked me? You know what 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.240 I'm saying. And I also know that those the motherfucker's 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.520 who run the streets, you know what I'm saying. That's 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.040 why I can feel comfortable by going to any city 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.960 in this country and don't have no problems because the 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:30.000 dudes who run them streets funk with me. Well, you was, 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:43.160 you was the literally the first co king kingpin. Well, 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.239 I mean, because you know we got we got young 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.320 basketball here. We're gonna bring him in. Um. But have 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.040 you ever have you ever ran into other than the 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.720 nicka rockingans? Have you ever been like Colombians or like 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.440 anybody other than that level? Because I imagine you they 0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.400 ain't had to be ringing bells with all the cartoon. 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.560 I mean, you know, I should come down here, you 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.239 know with the Nigger Rock. This is the where they 0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.600 had their meetings that with uh. This is where the 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.480 Colombians and the Nigga Rock was just meet right here 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.840 in Miami. I was coming to Miami two you know. Uh. 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:13.600 They would make me come in and come to the 0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.360 meetings and sit down and tell them what we could do. 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.200 You know how many kids we could move. I remember 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.600 the first time I came down here, man, and it's 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.640 in the book too, and UH and they had me. 0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.200 I brought all my money down me. I brought like 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.040 six hundred thousand, six fifty. That was every time of 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:38.880 the plane. Yeah, we flew in on the pane with 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.240 my boys. We flew in on the planes. We went 0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:45.600 to UH, I think we went to us. We went 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.240 to Jackson because we didn't want to come into Miami 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.800 with Miami Jackson, Jacksonville. Yeah, we went to Jackson and 0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.920 we took a round. We drove down so we do 0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.760 the deal. I bought a doll and when we finished 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.480 doing the deal, we had fire hollars, no car, no 0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.800 plane tickets, and no money at home. So we're sitting 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.920 in a hotel room with twenty bricks and we like, 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:15.560 I was gonna get this ship on your drivers. Like, 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.560 so we buy, we buy, Uh, we buy suburban. We 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.920 bought old subourban. I think we paid like twelve hundred 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.640 dollars for it. Man, and uh, we're rolling back. We 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.560 stopped in Georgia. We rest in Georgia, but this country. Yeah, 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:34.520 we drove all the way back to l A. Listen, 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:39.400 I blow the motherfucking car up in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I'm 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.840 following the diesel truck. It's raining like a motherfucker, right, 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.720 but we're seen to be rich. I'm going to be rich. 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:50.280 So we're rolling. It's about eleven o'clock at night. My 0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.320 boys asleep. I hear him. I said, man, the truck ticking. 0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.200 They said, what we told you, don't drive this motherfucker 0:32:56.280 --> 0:33:00.600 too fast. I'm trying to get home. So well, just 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.680 like and this blew up right right on the side 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.720 of the highway. So yeah, we call over. We grabbed 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.880 the bricks out there, back the suitcase, throw them in 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.320 some bushes, called the toad truck to come get us. 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.600 Told truck come get us. Now we're in Tennessee. We 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:21.040 got like three fifty dollars, no driver license, no more money, 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:26.000 and nobody to call. So twenty bricks, twenty bricks. The 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.400 toad truck take us with the twenty bricks because we 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.080 throw the bricks back in the car. Once the toad 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:36.360 truck cook up, we're fend the road. So he takes 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.840 us to a junkyard. Oh white dude, Man, I never 0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.600 forget this dude. Dude, coolest motherfucking New World. Man. I 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.120 love that dude. I wouldn't have made it without him. Man, 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.719 that that favorite he did for us helped us out 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.040 a lot. So we did. He's like, man, it's something 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.560 funny about you dudes. Man, none y'all got driver license, 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.240 y'all can't get a rim car. What's going on with y'all? 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:55.800 So we got the bricks in the back of the 0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.240 car that broke down. So he said, you know what, 0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.800 you see that old truck over there. It was a 0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.640 little small forward you all truck a little little bit 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.760 one and he said, uh, y'all give me three hundred 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:13.799 of hollars and uh man, we took that. We got 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.760 to Vegas. We drove with all the way across country. 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.319 My boys was big too. Man, there's about six too, 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.600 so his legs is all over and we're sticking. It 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.319 was the stick shifts. We're hitting each other. But we 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.480 got to Vegas, man, and the boys came and picked 0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.759 us up, and we was like, man, we are. So 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:30.759 we took that and that was our first time hitting 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.120 a million dollars after we dumped that. Now, let me 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:39.480 ask you something. Was the cocaine cheaper in Miami or 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.480 at that time it was. That's the reason why, because 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:47.879 because that's where we always heard like colways coming to cheap. 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.279 Though back then it's like forty five thousand of keybows, 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:54.960 But in l A it was like two d was 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.480 cheaper for that sunder. Just because I'm from New York, 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.600 so I need to know I'm she wasn't New York. 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.439 We wasn't even going to New York, New York. Then 0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:11.000 when started going to New York to like eighty five Jesus. 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.680 So everybody from Miami was bawling. Yeah, and Miami was 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.839 Miami was a place, you know, that was the word. 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:18.840 It was a port entry at that time. You know, 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.400 the columedies was coming here. That wasn't before the columedy 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.480 start coming in to to l A. You know, once they 0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.480 found out that l A was a bigger market. I 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.680 guess then they started pointing in the l A. And 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.759 uh that's when the price you know, the price war 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.040 started because like I said, when we first first kilo 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.960 we bought, we paid like forty five forty seven four 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.120 but ounces, you know, we should pay thirty three seven thousand, 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.040 forty seven thousand po kilo, but ounces we should pay 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.520 the first ounce I brought up pay thirty two two 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.719 d two hundred ounces of cocaine, and so I had 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.239 to break it down and make gold and make like 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:58.200 nine thousands all for one ounce. O what's my man? 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.960 You said you gave him? He he read up with 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.080 eighteen hundred. He gave him two ounces and he sold 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:08.080 it out on that what's his name? He's a coach now, Uh, 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.759 you're talking about coach Ward or you're talking about Han Cho. Uh, 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.279 probably I think you're talking about Hancho. Know well he 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.080 said he sold it out the same day. Oh you 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.040 talk about coach Ward. Coach Ward? Coach Ward? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:23.160 what coach was? He was a little football player, you know. 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.800 And those are kind of guys that I you should 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.360 look for, you know, I should look for it for 0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.200 dudes that was discipline. Hit me up. Yeah, I got 0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.319 you coming for you right now. But look at that person. 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:41.120 It's my birthday. We're gonna celebrate. Why didn't nobody telling 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.279 us his birthday? I don't already celebrate that ship no 0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:50.920 way thought? Yeah yeah, coach Ward, he was a young dude, 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.080 you know, and those are the dudes I should look for. Man, 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:59.600 good dudes, you know, ain't getting high? U trustworthy? You 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:01.440 know you can give him something that a rule in 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.080 your crew, don't get high. Because I noticed that. I 0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.080 tried to try to implement that. But you know, dudes 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.560 don't listen. They'd rather be high and have money. And 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:16.759 that's my next book. Whatever I did you ever around? 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.040 Did you ever try I tried to go about a week, 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:20.960 maybe two weeks a week? Now, what did you try 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:27.439 to dry cold? I went hard because all realness back then, 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.719 cocaine was looked at like the rich man. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.040 yeah yeah. I wasn't getting I wasn't using it because 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.799 well I was too. But let me say this here. 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.160 How the reason I didn't use because when I first 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.799 got involved, if the homies all told me like, if 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.719 you don't get high, you're gonna get rich, little motherfucker, 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.680 because I was like considered young. I was nine team, 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.239 but I was like young for the dudes who was 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:56.080 involved with with with with coke at that time. Um, 0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.000 I mean the Graham was three hundred dollars. So the 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:03.200 only motherfucker's could have for it was like pimps, glorious doctors. 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.560 So motherfucker's like me and under me, they really didn't 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.719 have no money. You know, I have money because I 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.000 have no sense to hang out with the pimps and 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.799 and uh that's how I really became exposed to the 0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:19.120 game from hanging out with them. But at that time, man, 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.319 it was it was so damn expensive that did nobody did. 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.680 Nobody had no money to get that. Could you think 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.160 you could you think the error? And again we're not 0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.720 glorifying I pople understanding that this is fact. FU facts 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.719 it's history. You think you think a person could do 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.680 it on your level the way you did it back then, 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.360 Like like you know, you ever ever meet Don Diva 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.960 the FATS magazine. It's hard. It was like, man, this 0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.680 this kid might have did it more bigger than me. 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.120 Like it's hard. You know, it's really hard to h 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.799 to duplicate that system. But you know, these kids are 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.880 smarter now, you know what I'm saying. They they learning 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.800 how to manute. Now. I couldn't manuver in this system, 0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:58.480 you know, Monet taking pictures of me. I'd have been 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:05.200 like hold up, man, you know it's a total different error. 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:08.359 You know, like now you know, like my nephews come 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.200 and show me the dudes is selling dope on the 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:17.000 internet and all that. You know, it's crazy. Yeah, hey, 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.480 but they're doing it right now. So you know, I 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.840 don't know how they're doing it, how they's working, you 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.560 know with us, you know, we're here in the shadows, 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.239 you know, when we got down. But it's a different era. 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:32.839 But for some reason, these kids are gonna figure out 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:34.520 how to make it work, you know what I'm saying. 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.839 And I'm sure that there's somebody out there that's that's 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:39.880 I mean, you know, like Big Meat. Did you know 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.200 Big Meets came up with a formula that worked during 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.160 that time? And I'm sure that there's somebody else right 0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.839 now who's figure out how to, uh how to beat 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.200 the system. Now, that's that's funny you bring up Big 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.320 Meets because one of the Big Meech's biggest downfalls. The 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.359 people would say it's it's just flashiness. Yeah, was like, 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.880 you know, I remember going to a club kid you not. 0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.400 It was fourteen of them and they had fourteen Lamborghinis outside. 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.359 I was like, there, no one crived with someone else 0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.640 quick I was doing. I didn't leave me to after 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.600 he failed, Okay, yeah, after he failed, you know, Wendy 0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.439 hooked us up and she wanted me to uh work 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.439 with him with his case and talk to him and 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.239 men him was writing through Wendy, so, uh, I was 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.640 corresponding with him and he told me what that offer 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.319 when they offered him the deal, and I gave him 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.680 my personal opinion on on the deal. You know, I 0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.600 didn't think that uh. I didn't think they had any 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.600 issues on winning this case. Uh and and I thought 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.320 that he should take the deal even though it was 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.439 thirty years. You know, I know, dudes that I wish 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.280 they would have took the thirty right now. They didn't 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.879 did thirty and still going because they didn't take the deal. 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.200 So I thought that it was in his best interest 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.280 to take the thirty year deal. But and in in 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.920 in the life that you guys live, it's being flashy 0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:59.440 bad like how like you know, before John Gotti, we 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.440 really we knew of the mafia, but we didn't know 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.840 what about like you know, and I'm coming from Queens 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.080 where he's from. So when y'all guardy start flashing and 0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.920 he started actually claiming that character, do you think that 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.879 was bad for business? Like? Absolutely absolutely, my guys, man, 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:19.160 one of them just got out to man. Little Tommy. Uh. 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.319 Little Tommy was like eighteen years old, he had two 0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.960 Rose Royces. Uh. Jermaine Jackson had bought a Ferrari and 0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.200 didn't have all the money to get it out. Jamaine Jackson. Yeah, 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.120 Jermaine Jackson. He had a terrest test Rosen. He had 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.480 the first testar Rosa party in the country. And the 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.160 Testarossa was sitting in there on the showroom floor and 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.200 Little Tommy passed by and saw it, and he walked 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.879 in and he told them, man how much for the testarosa. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.520 So the man told him the price and they said, 0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.759 Tommy gave him ten thousand extra. You know, can tell 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:54.640 Jermaine to wait till the next one. That's so. And 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.160 then he wrecked that one and everybody was laughing, and 0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:01.959 he went back and bought another one. So, uh when 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:06.480 when they did this, it tipped the police off to 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:12.200 what we were doing because uh, for a while, um, 0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.640 the police and know what we were doing. Like when 0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.000 when you know, I got the sheriffs and died. It 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.880 the cops that was doing all of the stealing and 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:25.359 okayument yeah, I had to. I had to take care 0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:31.120 of them. Was hurting the hood. They were stealing and robbing. 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.719 There's being robbing and robbing and then with sendail. They 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.560 would rob you and send you to jail. I'm like, 0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.080 I can go with being robbed, but you ain't gonna 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.080 rob me and put me in jail, you know what 0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.719 I'm saying. So, uh, I had the problem investigator to 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.480 investigate them. I spent a hundred thousand, my lawyer. I 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:51.000 go see my lawyer. So they're just ready my girlhouse. Right. No, 0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.759 you never had no dop my girl house. How I 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:56.480 know we ain't forgotten no dope in there, you know, 0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:58.560 because you know how you sometimes you know we do. 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.719 We used to keep by doping cars. You know. That's 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.719 how we beat the cops. They didn't understand the car game. 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:06.400 You know, you go to the trunk in the car, 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.080 moved the car a block or two down the street. 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:14.040 Never see until you need it. Um, they're never gonna know. 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:18.200 So we always kept out doping cars. So sometimes we 0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.480 will forget. And they had ten fifty keys in the 0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.360 trunk of the card the car and open the trunk 0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:29.239 and I know how ship in here. So I'm saying 0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.680 when they waide their house and sit, damn, we need 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.719 that ship in there on the hexadent or something. You know. 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.640 Maybe one day we were left it under the state. 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.160 Well cash. If they had said cash, I would have 0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:42.879 said yeah, you know, yeah, you know when they said dope. 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.200 But they said dope. You know this, my girl. You 0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.560 know what I'm saying something like, no, I ain't buying that, 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.719 So I gonna tell my lawyer, right and I'm like, man, 0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:52.759 I know it won't doping now. He said, oh no, 0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:54.920 you gotta have you had to at least him dough man, 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.440 I ain't lefing to dope in her house. So he said, oh, 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.640 so you're saying that crooked. He arguing with me. I'm 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:03.400 this motherfucker, right, He argued with me. I said, I said, man, 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.000 weren't no dope in there. So he said, well, do 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.359 you think they croocket get a private investigator? Because I 0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.120 never thought about it. I ain't know nothing about no 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.319 private investigator. You know what I'm saying. I ain't never 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.799 been the court. Yeah, So I said, well, man, who 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.600 was a private investigator? So he put me up. I 0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.399 had a private investigator. I gat do the hundred grand 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.839 And so dude followed the cops around everywhere. They when 0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:32.160 he went, okay, this is yeah. So he followed them 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:36.040 around and uh, he started bringing me back to evidence. 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.080 You know, not only from my crew, but they were 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:42.680 also doing the same thing to other crews. Um eventually 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.760 they had a hundred fifty people that was in prison. 0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:49.520 And when when they finally arrested me and indicted me, 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.640 I hand the investigation over to the prosecutor and like, 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.399 I don't know what y'all trying to do, but these 0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:00.160 dudes here then will be your witness. We got too 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.319 much dirt on them, so they let a hundred fifty 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:07.760 people out of prison. Wow, So they're like sending my 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.520 my notorieties and Big Putting, the founder of the Bloods, 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.399 was one of the guys who who who eventually got out, 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.120 And I didn't even know, you know, Putting was one 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.000 of my guys who he was. He was getting this 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.840 stuff from me. Uh, But I didn't know that the 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.560 cops had set him up until we all sitting in 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.759 there together and he was like, yeah, man, that motherfucker's 0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:28.319 followed me from your house. This is another time where 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.200 the officers start talking about the judge because they had 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.480 the judge on another same case. Yeah, that's the same thing. 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:37.440 That's the same case. How I knew to be smart 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.520 like that, and I didn't the lawyer put me up. 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.520 But I was just I was just keen to what 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:45.279 he was saying. You know, when he telled me, he 0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:49.520 telled me that he don't believe they're doing it. This motherfucker. 0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.359 He's so smart, you don't believe they're doing it, right, 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.040 You think I'm lying a little. But back then it 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.800 did probably sound crazy because we wouldn't we hadn't hand. No. 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.840 So this this is probably one of the craziest cases 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:09.239 ever in the history of police force. You know, and 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:12.719 you know Rampart was offshoot of the Freeway Task Force. 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.520 Remember the Rampart case were the dudes was stealing the 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.239 money and doing all the stuff that came out in 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.080 Let's not training day like based off of that. Training 0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.080 day is based off of that, but it was deeper 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.720 in training. That training day didn't even touch the surface. 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.759 You see these cars in my face, all this flashlight 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.880 therapy while I was handcuffed, handcuffed my legs hog time 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.520 the dog. The dog bite me and they hit me 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.719 in the head with flashlight steal flashlights. They got these 0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.560 big long ash steel flashlight names cracking you in the head. 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.600 I mean, you go out and then they wake you up. 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.120 I'm gonna be honest to this day, l a p D. 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.240 Is still the scariest niggas ever. A lie, I'm legal 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.560 forever and radio l A p D. I'll be looking 0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:55.000 like that. I'll be looking like I don't know why 0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.759 I looked all the way, man, I don't know. I 0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.279 was scarting that most races. Yeah, and they got black 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:04.760 and white cars. They just they chest rated the shares sheriffs, 0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.520 the green cars though no chrifs black and white to 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:09.759 both boy black and white ones just got chef road 0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.880 on it. The riff run the county jails, you know, 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.360 they run the jails. They just got them for having 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:24.880 uh this coat, this white coat colt speaking body, they 0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:26.560 got coat. I said that these these guys they own 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:33.080 boat too. They got so they was in jail having 0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:37.560 dudes fighting with each other, uh, just doing all kind 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.560 of insane ship and the fiends just arrested, you know, 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.919 they arrested their head Chaff. He's in jail right now. 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:46.680 But yeah, for the same stuff that he was allowing 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:50.720 this this activity be going on inside of our jails, 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:55.279 and um, all of that's just continuation of what had 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.680 started back in the eighties. Now in l A. It's 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:02.359 so like racial, like that's the most racial. Um when 0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.360 it comes to streets, it comes to the streets is 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.440 like real rate. Like in business, this Mexicans in the 0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:11.399 same meeting, it's blacks in the same meaning. But when 0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.799 it comes to streets of l A, it's it's really segregated. 0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.520 Blood absolutely scripts. Then there's Mexicans and then there's Asians. 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:20.839 You are at the level you was at. Did you 0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.040 have to deal with each every game? We already know 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.239 we were estab. I didn't really. I didn't really deal 0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.399 with with Mexicans until I went to prison. Okay, when 0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:33.880 I was on the street. Um, the black community was 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:35.839 so strong then that I didn't really need to come 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.920 outside of that that community. So I was able to 0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:42.120 to to other than getting the drugs. I could stay 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:45.399 inside of my little comfort zone and and and make 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:46.960 like I wouldn't if you walk up to me and 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.600 you was white, I what you're talking about? You know 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:51.800 you wasn't even interested in white cousin He's making a 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:56.920 was not. I didn't need that because I had the 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:02.440 cream of the black market. So this feasts, don't go 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:06.120 forget your thought. But my neighborhood, that was our goal 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.400 was to have like Barney coming from Rego Park to 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:12.719 come to off like this real nickname party. And we 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.800 used had his white lady named trans Am. She she 0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:17.640 used to come through in a trans Am, but she 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:19.600 used to come to and buy like a five hunting pack. 0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:21.719 Like you know, to us that I was huge. But 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:24.399 your goal was that I had the whole community, right 0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:28.400 what what what my guys depending on those you know, 0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:31.320 or they guys who was on the streets setting the fifties. 0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.960 And but I had got to a position where I 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:39.240 wasn't selling less than like twenties, thirties, forties, fifties huntreds, 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:44.840 you know, so I didn't really need um. You know, 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.520 Barney coming through a five runter trying running one of 0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:52.880 them doing five hundred dollars right, give it to her exactly, exactly, 0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.640 exactly exactly. You know. I had. I had a guy 0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.160 that wrote around with me every day to give our money. 0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.600 That was his job. When people walk up to me 0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:06.000 at the gas station, Oh my mon is and give 0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:07.880 me a five hundred, give me three hundred, you know. 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.000 And he was taking him out the one dollar bag 0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:15.680 and he like many pocket put together. Where is that y'all? Do? Man? 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.120 Man you see to fight the other day back back 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.200 here before you go jogging. He just hand out money 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.160 for real. That I mean, you got on some man 0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:28.560 back this don't know. He was robbing for real. He 0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:30.920 was selling coking giving it back with a lot of people. 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:37.000 They look at that as as as paying taxes, That's true. 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.040 When I looked at it, is taking care of the hood. 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.080 You know. I was in Jamaica one time and uh, 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:44.920 flow out there. This dude name't do this right and 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.640 do this had had the whole community. Like I didn't 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.080 ask what he did. He had had the whole community. 0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.000 And we had to fill my video there. We had 0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.680 to pay him, and he wanted to meet me. I 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.080 met him in the cave and too to three years 0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:04.799 later in the cave, well two three years later, I'm 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:09.319 sitting there watching um the news. You know you're making 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.239 you better know, dude, who do what this is? I've 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:12.880 watched the news and I had I know idea. I 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.680 have met the biggest drug dealing and to make it. 0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.960 And I'm sitting there and the whole neighborhood would not 0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:19.839 give this thick up for like three or four days. 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.640 They was backing down the pool. Whatever the whatever this happened. Now, 0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.520 when you're feed the hood, they're gonna look at the hood. 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:31.000 Will hold you question? That was my question? No, oh no, 0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:34.200 no you ain't. You ain't playing. It's like one time 0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:36.120 I had a little incident, right, I had about it. 0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:38.480 I don't know what happened, but I had like ten 0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:41.759 keys and I was at my mama's house. In the 0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.719 car that we've been keeping him in. The homies needed it, 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:48.640 so I take them out, and my mama's fence and 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.440 my next door neighbor garage sit right next to each other, 0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.040 so I had a little hole in the middle of it. 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:54.560 So I said, I'm gonna just throw them in between 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:57.680 the fence and the garage until I get ready for him. 0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:00.720 So I threw him in between the fence. I'm just chilling, 0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.200 you know, I'm gonna play me some basketball and to 0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:07.480 the fellers get back. So my mama called me. She said, hey, Mary, 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.879 say she got your package. I said, what she got 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:19.000 my package? So what I'm saying is that the neighborhood. 0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:20.600 And she took my package and put it in the house. 0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:23.120 You ain't gotta keep it back there. You're righting in 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.960 the house. And this is a lady that's like seven 0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:29.480 years old, you know what I'm saying. So when you're 0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:31.680 taking care of the neighborhood, even though she wasn't making 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.440 money off of me, her grandkids was okay, and she 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:40.080 appreciated what I was doing for her grandkids, and she 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:43.520 was showing the love back from that by you know, 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:46.560 making sure my thing was good. That's one thing about 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:51.640 you know, hustling, um is you can turn you can 0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:53.440 turn it around if you want. I mean, you can 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.239 do good with the bad that you're doing. Like you know, 0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.759 I know so many um Kenny Anderson, It's from my 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:03.160 hood and I remember, uh, well he's a couple of 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.759 years old to me, but I remember him trying to like, 0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:09.520 you know, him having a cold spreak, being in college 0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:11.640 and trying to go to the NBA and him having 0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:13.759 a cold speaker, trying to ask somebody to hustle, and 0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.880 every drug dealer just just told him to shut the 0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.400 funk up for the every drug deal amount count and 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.600 eat up and pay for whatever the funk he needed 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.680 at that time. And he had he had to do ship. Well, 0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:27.360 you know, the same thing with a little D. You know, 0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.239 a little D from the Bay Area. You know, he 0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:34.200 just got out I'm d too short in a big home. Yeah, 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:38.799 that's my little man, you know, he yeah, you know, 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.160 being him man when he was about man, he couldn't 0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:42.640 have been more than seventeen. I met him and miss 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:44.680 the Fast Store of the Bay Area. Yeah, that's what 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:48.239 he told me. He was here there. Yeah, actually the 0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:50.320 first time he introduced me to him. He was about 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.360 seventeen years old, and one of my boys put up 0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:55.600 in the van. He's been telling me about little d 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:57.799 You know, he had been hitting me, but he wanted 0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:00.840 to go directly to me. So, uh he had he 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.040 had connected us, and uh, you're a little dude. Was like, 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:07.839 I said, how much money you got me? Seventeen years old? 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:11.400 You had a million dollars, So you know, it was 0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:16.080 like it didn't matter how old you was. It's just 0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:18.440 a matter if you had the game to to to 0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:22.360 to to put it down. So uh, it was just 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:25.440 so many ways and so many different dudes that was 0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:27.120 was getting their money that I didn't need to go 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.960 outside of my community. You know, you got dudes coming 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:32.560 throwing down five hundred, six hundred thousand, so you know, 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:34.600 off a six hundred thousand out a deal. If I 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.960 put a hundred out of that for myself, I'm happy. 0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:43.840 At one point, you were making more money than Magic 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:49.319 motherfucking jobs, you know. And uh, how did that feel? 0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:53.680 With Magic sign this contract? Right and they put in 0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:55.239 the paper, I think he was getting like one point 0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:57.160 two billion. I was like, damn, I'm glad I don't 0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:02.840 play basketball I'm not gonna lie, you know hard that 0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:08.200 statement one. It was like damn ship. It was like, 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:10.759 damn man, he only gonna make two million dollars in Yeah, 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:17.600 he in trouble. Wow, that is crazy, man, that is crazy. 0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.359 So now come on, everybody, everybody could who was close, 0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:27.840 come over here to go. So you're in jail, you 0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:32.719 probably reading, you're doing whatever, and I'm rebuilding and rebuilding. 0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:37.840 I'm rebuilding and I'm like what I did because I 0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:40.759 got exposed a fair time when I went to jail. 0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.279 You know, somebody put me up on him, right, A 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:46.440 couple of Muslim brothers, just like, man, you don't know 0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:48.719 about fair Con. You don't know about Malcolm X. I 0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.200 ain't never heard of Malcolm X. I ain't never heard 0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:56.440 about fair Come. You know I knew took it big on. 0:55:56.520 --> 0:56:01.279 You know Tony Stacy's cartoon big quick. What do you 0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:05.000 mean so mussling brother? One day he was like, man, 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:08.320 come on, go to service man. You ain't doing nothing today. 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.360 You know you ain't giving no tennis lessons because you 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:11.919 know that's to my husble and that you was giving 0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:18.200 tennis lessons. Um, So I go to serviceman and uh, 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:22.800 I see Farakhan for the first time in the jail. Yeah. 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:25.520 So I'm checking him out. Man, I'm listening to how 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.640 you talk, and he's like, oh, the black man is God. 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.040 Black man can do anything. Like what is the smuggeran 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:34.759 talking about it? sEH lost his mind. I'm a dun't eat. 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:37.839 I'm a get sir. You know, I'm appos to sell 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.759 dope all my life. I'm not getting back out. You know. 0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:44.719 We're doing the same thing, like I just sits the 0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:51.000 first bit. Okay, So I'm checking him out and you're 0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:53.720 gonna You're gonna get me. Loaded's okay, you burny, don't drink, 0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.560 It's okay, but I don't drink. Man drinking today. Bring 0:56:56.560 --> 0:57:02.440 your birthday. Listen to celebrate your birthday. We celebrate in 0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:05.040 your life and most important, we celebrate your survival. And 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:06.839 I don't want to cut you up because listen to man, 0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.520 this black man who could kill every day for doing 0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:13.399 the for a spectrum of what you did to life 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.560 the society for you to live. I think that that 0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:19.880 should be celebrated. I think it should be a charnished 0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:21.960 I mean, I think it should be a love. I 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:24.680 think that you know every I think that what you're 0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:26.640 doing is honorable, because you could have just said, you 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:28.360 know why I did this and fun up people like 0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:30.880 and that's it. But you're out here trying to make 0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:35.200 a fu change a change that's motherfucker. That's sucking dope. 0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:36.880 You know what, I'm gonna read the books. You know 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:40.240 what I'm saying that the books. But let me ask you, 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.120 because I see, I see what's going there. But let 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.720 me ask you. So when you first heard hustling every day, 0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:52.760 I'm hustling every day, I'm hustling and it's time flattered, flattered, 0:57:53.120 --> 0:58:01.640 and you said that's high. Yeah, alright, was flatter and 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.600 at the same time. So I don't really know how 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.400 to feel about this thing. So I get on the phone. 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:10.960 I started calling people in who know this story, you know, 0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:12.800 because I still got my music. You know, I found 0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:15.959 alcoholics while I was in prison. But wait, the group 0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:26.560 that yeah that's got signed just put them down with 0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.840 Kee Tee. No, ken T put them down with me. 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:37.760 Ken was my man. You know, if I if I 0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:39.520 listen to Keithie, I'll be the key of hip hop. 0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:44.280 Right now, I slipped on hip hop, d J Pool 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:47.000 and key T try to get me do hip hop 0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:50.800 right before I was going to need a baker. But 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.320 what I did is I went with the dudes with 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.640 the I see Oldis Smith had at that time, Otis 0:58:56.720 --> 0:59:03.440 had Johnny Taylor the whole mag and then it convinced 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:05.680 me to go with him. He took me to Dick, 0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:10.600 Griffy Berry Guardy and they all say hip hop is 0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:16.400 a fad. I was tipping with hip hop, but I 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:19.080 didn't get all the way in it because them too, them, 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.080 them dudes had convinced me that it wasn't gonna last. 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.640 But I had them like this here, but I didn't 0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:28.560 know that I should be telling them what to do 0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:33.080 instead of that. Then King t is telling you, telling 0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:36.680 me hip hop is the one. What I'm saying, it's crazy. 0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:38.600 So you would have been the first death ro Really 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:43.320 this here, really listen to this here, and listen to this. 0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:45.360 I go to this house, I go to this house. 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:49.920 Right Who who stays at one of my girl's house? Sometimes? 0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:52.000 You know what I got. I got like four girls, 0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:54.920 and I say house and house house. You know when 0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:56.760 the girls ain't when I ain't there, they bring when 0:59:56.760 --> 1:00:00.560 their little cousins over somebody and you know from company. 1:00:01.200 --> 1:00:09.080 So my one girl, My one girl. Her little cousin 1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:12.560 is a goop what's called man Cap who was the 1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:16.919 first group on our records. Um, that was her little cousin. 1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:22.280 Her other cousin was another dude named Tail who who DJ. 1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:24.960 Pooling was like this. So they would be at my 1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:26.600 house all the time. I would come over. Theyre being 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:28.440 they're making beef bla blah blah blahla beating on the 1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:30.480 table and all that ship and they're like, man, you 1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:32.920 want to do Pools record. You know, he's gonna work 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:35.520 with L cool J. And he's doing this and he's 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.560 doing that, and so you know, maybe maybe because you're 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:41.280 the financier of the hood. Obviously I got the bread. 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:45.040 I don't know what to do with all the bread 1:00:45.080 --> 1:00:48.920 I got. It's hard to hide this ship. We put 1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:50.960 one down the bill with the people garage and they're 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:53.280 cutting holes in the back of the garage and taking 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:57.960 the safe out. So, uh, Pool takes me over to 1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:01.040 this house and I go in to apartment. Wasn't the 1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:03.080 house in his apartment? So I go in this apartment 1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:05.960 and so forty motherfucker's in there. They're laying all over 1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:08.520 the floor and looked worse than my crackhouts. So I'm like, 1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:10.800 what the funking on here? Is this? What y'all? They 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:15.960 got wires everywhere turntables? I'm like, fuck. So when I 1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:19.880 leave on the Bay, should I messed with the motherfucker's 1:01:19.920 --> 1:01:25.200 with the high rises in Beverly Hills olders Smith did Griffy? 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:29.040 Or should I mess with these young for seventeen years old? 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:32.040 Who tell me he needs two hundred thousand? Oh, it's 1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:33.880 just tell me he needs six. I already gave him 1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:36.480 the six Huntred, So now I'm the banging. Should I 1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:39.040 get Pool two hundred? See? Pool would have told me 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:41.760 he needed forty thousand to do album, which where the 1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:43.560 rap album was costing at the time. I would have 1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:45.400 gave it to him. He's trying to go big. He 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:47.480 was trying to go big, and I just gave oh 1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:50.560 the six hundred. So I was like, I ain't ready 1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:52.360 to put this kind of music on, this kind of 1:01:52.400 --> 1:01:55.640 money into the music industry right now. W A out 1:01:55.760 --> 1:02:00.640 yet out y'all? From I go me Dre when I 1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:02.680 get out of prison, out of it. This is the 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:08.240 first time to get right now like years ago and 1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:10.320 I d when I was in jail, but I never 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:14.400 met him. So I go to his house about five 1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:18.280 six years ago, right right before we was doing Cracking 1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:20.760 the System, because Dred told me when I was in jail, 1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:22.960 He's gonna do the soundtrack. He said, whatever you do, 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:24.640 I'm gonna do the soundtrack for you. So I go 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:26.720 over to his house and we're talking about doing the soundtrack. 1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:32.320 He was like, wait, you don't remember that house. I said, yeah, 1:02:32.360 --> 1:02:33.880 I remember, I came over there. He said, I was 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:38.160 in that house the day that you came jord. Wow. 1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:40.440 So when it when it hit me, it was like, 1:02:40.760 --> 1:02:47.400 oh fuck. You had an opportunity to have doctor Dre 1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:51.520 at that time, and really I had to hold because 1:02:51.520 --> 1:02:54.720 I had Oldis Smith and did GRIFFI was the first distributors. 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:58.640 They were the first independent distributors of black music. Uh. 1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:03.040 Did Griffin New negotiated Shugs deal within the scope. I 1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:05.800 don't know if you know that he negotiated that. That 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:09.320 was me and Harryo with Sally's when they started Death Roll. 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:11.560 That's when they first first started. When they first started 1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:15.080 Death Roll, I met Sill to day Harryo met Shill. 1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:20.040 I was in the same room with with the day 1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:23.000 before she'll got in me and Harry. Oh, David Kenner 1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:28.280 was sitting uh the attorney booth, and Harry told David Kenner, 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:31.360 I'm gonna make you more money in the music business 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:34.240 than you ever made as an attorney. I was sitting 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:36.720 in that room when he told him that we was 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:42.320 in jail. It was in m d c. L A downtown. Wow. Well, 1:03:42.360 --> 1:03:46.320 you know, HARRYO have been in in in Pelican Bay, 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:50.680 which is considered it's like solitary confinement where where all 1:03:50.760 --> 1:03:54.560 you got to do is read books, read newspapers. It's 1:03:54.560 --> 1:03:58.200 really the high profile maximum security. That's where they put 1:03:58.280 --> 1:04:00.840 like the worst are the worst. You dudes who came 1:04:01.280 --> 1:04:06.120 who can't walk to mind uh, too violent, too much pool. 1:04:06.360 --> 1:04:07.959 You know, the don't want you to get no mail 1:04:08.360 --> 1:04:10.080 and then want you're talking to nobody. You don't get 1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:13.400 no visits and why you ain't go there. I didn't 1:04:13.400 --> 1:04:15.000 go to the state. I went to the Y's right, 1:04:15.040 --> 1:04:17.400 that's right. You know, Harry went to the state because 1:04:17.400 --> 1:04:23.280 he had a kidnap, attempted murder. So I said, now 1:04:23.400 --> 1:04:25.800 back back to Rick Ross, right, So back to I'm 1:04:25.800 --> 1:04:28.520 sorry Rick Ross right. So the first time we're you 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:33.560 robbing okay, okay, real quick, before the Freeway come to 1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:37.840 you first. No no, no, no, no no, let me 1:04:37.960 --> 1:04:40.120 let me, let me, let me because Freeway, even though 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:43.560 he came out before Rick Ross, I feel like Rick 1:04:43.640 --> 1:04:47.040 Ross was more, that meant more to you. Yeah, but 1:04:47.080 --> 1:04:49.040 I just want to know timeline was that had free 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:51.840 Way already come to you? He didn't come to me either. Okay, 1:04:51.880 --> 1:04:54.000 so let's take it from there. I so you're in 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:59.560 your in jail obviously, Uh yeah, um, every day I'm hustling. Yeah, 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:02.800 what's just something that you can relate to? Absolutely, that 1:05:02.920 --> 1:05:05.680 was my saying. And then did you know that when 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:08.360 the people played this record, this artist's name was Rick Ross? 1:05:08.720 --> 1:05:10.640 Or did you you knew that prior to listen? I 1:05:10.720 --> 1:05:14.439 knew before the record came out, you know, And yeah, 1:05:14.520 --> 1:05:16.920 we was. I was studying the music business because I 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:19.840 had sought my mistake. You know, I'm like in there, 1:05:19.920 --> 1:05:24.920 like you know you've done? Motherfucker? What the fun was 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:29.440 you thinking about? You had you had it in your hands? 1:05:30.160 --> 1:05:31.760 How did you How did you let this get out 1:05:31.840 --> 1:05:36.360 your hands? So I'm in jail, networking, you know, turns 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:38.440 in the windy days, and people had already told you 1:05:38.520 --> 1:05:42.000 as an artist coming out named Rick Ross. The magazine, 1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:45.440 the magazine before you ever hit you know, we get 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:48.000 all the magazine. We didn't. We didn't, said, yok we didn't. 1:05:48.040 --> 1:05:50.480 We didn't. We didn't hear Rick Ross two. We actually 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:55.920 heard the actually you know, I mean, y'all hear the magazine. 1:05:56.040 --> 1:05:58.120 What was that magazine that was coming out of the South. 1:06:01.200 --> 1:06:05.680 Julia Beverley, she loved him. That was her boy. She 1:06:05.800 --> 1:06:08.400 blew him up man, she got she I think they 1:06:08.480 --> 1:06:14.240 might have been fucking. That's how we thought that jail 1:06:14.720 --> 1:06:20.080 it was. That's how she was on. Okay, So back first, 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:25.160 at first, every day you're hustling. It's a great record, amazing, great, 1:06:25.960 --> 1:06:28.720 great record. Every hustler had to love that, had to 1:06:28.840 --> 1:06:31.360 love that. And then this is this is why I'm involved, 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:35.480 Because in the record he says, I know Pablo Noriega 1:06:35.760 --> 1:06:39.080 the real noise. So he's trying to this is I think, 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:41.680 in my opinion, that's the reason why I didn't take 1:06:41.720 --> 1:06:43.720 that line. Never personal. Not when I first met him, 1:06:43.720 --> 1:06:45.520 he told me it wasn't it wasn't like that. But 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:48.200 when he was trying to apply that, he was like, 1:06:48.520 --> 1:06:52.640 your status correct, But have you ever dealt with Pablo. 1:06:54.480 --> 1:06:57.320 What he did is he switched it up because he 1:06:57.360 --> 1:06:59.720 didn't want I mean, you know he wasn't. I spoke 1:06:59.720 --> 1:07:01.960 to him when I was in jail. Oh oh yeah, 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:03.240 I had. I had a phone call with him, and 1:07:03.280 --> 1:07:05.520 he had a maildown before the record or after the 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:09.240 record came out, before the restaurant, because he was at 1:07:09.280 --> 1:07:12.120 this time he was when I first found out about him. 1:07:12.120 --> 1:07:14.400 He was just doing the magazines and he was writing 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:16.840 for he was stepping Starter was right for treating up. No, no, no, 1:07:16.880 --> 1:07:18.360 he was getting ready to his album is get ready 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:20.120 to come out? He was getting ready for the album out. 1:07:20.240 --> 1:07:23.000 But he was, you know, before before the album or 1:07:23.040 --> 1:07:26.280 the record comes out, they do the magazines first. You know, 1:07:26.400 --> 1:07:32.120 you're doing the old zone. So I seen him in 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:36.560 the magazines and I'm like, I know, somebody got to notice, dude. 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:39.480 But I do too many people. So I'm hitting all 1:07:39.560 --> 1:07:42.360 my boys. So one of my boys, he write for 1:07:42.400 --> 1:07:46.520 Smooth Magazine. He's, oh yeah, he'd be here Monday at 1:07:46.560 --> 1:07:49.920 nine o'clock. I put you on the phone with him, 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:53.160 So my boy, I called him. My boy put him 1:07:53.160 --> 1:07:55.600 on the phone. He don't know it's me. My boy 1:07:55.720 --> 1:07:57.240 just handing the phone. He had met somebody want to 1:07:57.280 --> 1:07:59.440 high let you. So he get on the phone. I 1:07:59.520 --> 1:08:02.640 holler me, oh, man, you don't know. He thinks he's 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:06.040 been set up. Oh big home meet got his bodyguards 1:08:06.280 --> 1:08:08.920 by itself. Oh big home mee. I love you, and 1:08:10.360 --> 1:08:14.880 you know, just like jacking me off hard. So I say, uh, 1:08:16.680 --> 1:08:19.240 I say, look, man, I got some my beers for us. 1:08:20.280 --> 1:08:22.200 We can do this thing together. You don't have to 1:08:22.280 --> 1:08:28.240 be me. You can just be my supporter. Um, okay, okay, 1:08:28.240 --> 1:08:30.360 IM will come to see you and I'm gonna do this. 1:08:30.479 --> 1:08:33.080 I'm gonna do that. So I called him like one 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:36.680 more time after that, and uh, he put this guy 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:40.400 Pucci on the phone and uh, they sent us a 1:08:40.439 --> 1:08:42.479 busiting form. So I sent him to busity Forum. They 1:08:42.560 --> 1:08:44.640 never feel a form out. Next thing I know, the 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:47.160 number was changed. You know that was an end of 1:08:47.200 --> 1:08:49.720 our conversation. As you think, that's where I ret wrong, 1:08:49.800 --> 1:08:52.799 because obviously it's because obviously you had to feel flatters 1:08:52.920 --> 1:08:56.120 like me personally as a person was a wrapper, right, 1:08:56.760 --> 1:08:59.479 And um, I wanted to just just show you the 1:09:01.120 --> 1:09:05.840 similarities in my situation. I had never I had never 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:08.599 chose the name of Norieg I was actually in jail 1:09:09.120 --> 1:09:12.200 reading a book about Noriega, and the ship was so thick. 1:09:12.280 --> 1:09:14.600 People I think it's the child. I was like, you 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:17.920 think you ain't beating that ship, and just like playfully 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:21.519 grabbed a book for me or knocked down or something, 1:09:21.760 --> 1:09:25.080 and they started reading. And then whatever they asked me 1:09:25.880 --> 1:09:28.400 on that page, I had knew it. So people just 1:09:28.520 --> 1:09:32.400 nicknamed me Noriega. No, no doubt, so I had. I 1:09:32.520 --> 1:09:35.519 still didn't go by the name of Noriega. Um. So 1:09:35.680 --> 1:09:38.360 I came home from jail. When I came home from jail, 1:09:38.400 --> 1:09:40.320 Capone had came to see me, which his name was 1:09:40.360 --> 1:09:44.360 not Capone in jail um but and he kept calling 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:47.360 me Noriega. So people in my hood thought it was funny. 1:09:47.520 --> 1:09:49.680 So I was like, we called this the Noriega too. 1:09:49.680 --> 1:09:52.639 We called him Ariga too. But in retrospect, I reached 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:55.200 out to Noriega's family because I knew how it could be, 1:09:55.800 --> 1:09:58.120 you know, tooking the wrong way right. So when I 1:09:58.200 --> 1:10:03.240 reached out and I couldn't get the actual um contact 1:10:03.320 --> 1:10:06.679 that I wanted or someone that was you know, valuable 1:10:06.720 --> 1:10:08.439 to talk about it, what I did was I changed 1:10:08.479 --> 1:10:11.160 my name in the Northy right and I totally get 1:10:11.240 --> 1:10:14.519 that because I never named myself freeway right, Okay. I 1:10:14.600 --> 1:10:17.639 grew up on the side of the freeway. And when 1:10:17.680 --> 1:10:21.200 we started low riding, we started low ride. It was 1:10:21.280 --> 1:10:23.200 a dude who was like the king of low ride 1:10:23.240 --> 1:10:26.120 at the time. And uh, one of my little partner 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:29.960 was banging his wife. He didn't like it. You know, 1:10:30.680 --> 1:10:33.680 I don't think so you know, we like a lot 1:10:33.720 --> 1:10:36.519 of people don't like that. Years old. He like when 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:41.559 five eighteen year old banging his wife. So he found 1:10:41.560 --> 1:10:44.280 out that my boy banging his wife. So he's like, oh, 1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:47.759 you junky ask freeway boys, and it was an insult. 1:10:48.920 --> 1:10:51.720 Freeway we should be an insult. You didn't want to 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:54.400 be no freeway boy. That's why I was asking. You 1:10:54.439 --> 1:10:57.200 didn't read the article about my obituary. You missed that. 1:10:57.280 --> 1:10:59.080 When you missed that, you got to read that article 1:10:59.320 --> 1:11:02.479 because l a Man magazine. Uh, this dude came to 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:04.120 visit me at the prison when I had my life 1:11:04.160 --> 1:11:06.800 sentence and he called himself right in my obituary. He 1:11:06.920 --> 1:11:09.880 wrote for the l A timesh and he was saying 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:11.320 that this was gonna be the last time that he 1:11:11.360 --> 1:11:15.800 ever wrote about me. Okay, so we just at that 1:11:15.920 --> 1:11:18.599 one he talked about being a junkie ass freeway boy, 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:20.920 and that's what they felt about us because our cars 1:11:21.000 --> 1:11:23.400 was raggedy, they smoked, they shook. You know what I'm 1:11:23.439 --> 1:11:27.639 saying THEE So I understand totally what you're saying about 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:30.000 somebody giving you a name. So how how do you 1:11:30.120 --> 1:11:33.920 think you and Ross could have avoided? We would have 1:11:33.960 --> 1:11:36.960 both been huge right now. I mean I would have 1:11:37.040 --> 1:11:39.439 gave him the freedom. He would have never got in 1:11:39.520 --> 1:11:42.240 toy with the g D s. If he'd been messing 1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:44.599 with me, Him and the g D problem never would 1:11:44.600 --> 1:11:46.439 have happened because I would have been able to handle 1:11:46.520 --> 1:11:48.200 that right off the rip. You know, I would have 1:11:48.240 --> 1:11:50.759 took care of it. Larry who was Larry Who? Okay? 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:54.200 I would have knew how to to navigate to those situations. 1:11:54.479 --> 1:11:58.200 I mean I had ideas one when we talked the 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:00.320 first time we talked, he was gonna do a show. 1:12:01.000 --> 1:12:04.160 I said, listen, man, let me give you a tip. 1:12:04.240 --> 1:12:07.320 Look what you do. You get ready to do your show? 1:12:07.800 --> 1:12:12.040 The next show you do, let me call in let 1:12:12.120 --> 1:12:14.760 him here. This is before most people ever heard the 1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:18.600 federal president. This is a call from a federal correctional institution. 1:12:18.960 --> 1:12:23.200 This is Ricky Ross. I said, listen, if you do 1:12:23.360 --> 1:12:27.200 that on the phone, you take my call, you let 1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:30.599 the whole audience here you talking to me, they don't 1:12:30.680 --> 1:12:35.519 love you. Ah. And he didn't get it. He didn't 1:12:35.600 --> 1:12:40.600 understand how much more that would have solidified his authenticity 1:12:41.160 --> 1:12:45.800 of of be somebody from the hood, you know. And 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:48.640 and it was tips like that that I had for 1:12:48.800 --> 1:12:51.880 me and him that we could have did. But like 1:12:52.040 --> 1:12:55.120 I said, he didn't really understand. I think he was 1:12:55.200 --> 1:13:01.000 more concerned with me discrediting his credibility. You know, if 1:13:01.040 --> 1:13:06.240 it's a real Rick Ross, then why are you Rick Ross? 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:09.400 You know? And I think that his people started to 1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:13.599 put that in his ear that he couldn't align himself 1:13:13.680 --> 1:13:15.920 with me. It would be impossible for him to align 1:13:16.000 --> 1:13:19.240 itself with me because then it would discredit But this 1:13:19.320 --> 1:13:22.200 is a real Noriega and I always show love to 1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:24.679 the Noriega family. But see, you can think for yourself. 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:28.400 You you know who you are, what you stand for. 1:13:28.600 --> 1:13:31.200 When you don't really understand that. It's like me, if 1:13:31.200 --> 1:13:33.519 I didn't know who I was, I wouldn't be walking 1:13:33.560 --> 1:13:35.960 the street right now like I'm doing a movie right now. 1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:44.800 So that we got to eleven million in the bank. 1:13:45.200 --> 1:13:46.680 You know, I'm saying, we're gonna start shooting hope. We 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:48.840 felt well, we got the script doctor. So working with 1:13:48.920 --> 1:13:51.439 the script doctor, we we were doing the script right now, 1:13:51.720 --> 1:13:55.120 kind of everything up and everything tight. So me and 1:13:55.200 --> 1:13:58.040 he was talking another day, I said, I see men, 1:13:58.120 --> 1:14:01.280 cous Man, we gotta do another movie right now, as 1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:03.719 soon as this movie is done, we gotta do another 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:07.080 movie with me making all the wrong choices, Like every 1:14:07.120 --> 1:14:09.200 time one of little homies wanted to kill them, my fucker, 1:14:09.880 --> 1:14:14.360 I said, go ahead, he put the trigger. Bam. How 1:14:14.479 --> 1:14:17.840 would my life had been so much different if I 1:14:17.920 --> 1:14:22.160 couldn't be strong enough to where these dudes get into 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:24.240 it that I don't had a power to say, hold up, man, 1:14:24.280 --> 1:14:28.479 don't pull that trigger. Don't you shoot him, get him 1:14:28.520 --> 1:14:31.080 a path, they didn't walk away. It would have been 1:14:31.080 --> 1:14:34.000 a whole lot of difference. But some people don't have 1:14:34.280 --> 1:14:39.800 the power or the strength to say don't do it. 1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:41.760 They're more worried about or they're gonna look at me 1:14:41.840 --> 1:14:45.240 like I'm soft if you don't do it. But me, 1:14:45.439 --> 1:14:50.080 what I did is I was like, okay, you kill him. Okay. 1:14:50.680 --> 1:14:53.000 In the movie, this is what this movie is gonna be. 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:55.080 But this is what I actually tell my guy. I 1:14:55.160 --> 1:14:58.360 don't want abode like whoa hold on? This is this 1:14:58.880 --> 1:15:01.120 is what I should tell my guy. Right, I said, 1:15:01.120 --> 1:15:04.280 all right, we're gonna kill him. I don't kill him. 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:07.120 That three hundred thousand old. You think we're gonna get 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:10.920 that back when you kill him? Any chance of us 1:15:10.920 --> 1:15:14.320 getting that back ain't no chance. Okay, that's cool. We 1:15:14.360 --> 1:15:16.160 don't get the money back, but we're probably gonna get 1:15:16.200 --> 1:15:24.439 it back Noway what the police start the investigation. Okay, 1:15:24.479 --> 1:15:26.600 they arrestless. They ain't really got the evidence, and the 1:15:26.720 --> 1:15:29.680 arrest as all right, we all go to jail. We 1:15:29.800 --> 1:15:33.400 got a bet out how much that's gonna cost us? 1:15:35.800 --> 1:15:37.519 How much you haven't FENSI to charge every time you 1:15:37.600 --> 1:15:41.880 do a case hollars everybody that he touched You know, 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:44.120 he don't touch you if you you don't talking about 1:15:44.160 --> 1:15:47.240 thirty I see. So it's six of us. So you 1:15:47.280 --> 1:15:49.400 know we're talking about three hundred thousand. So we already 1:15:49.400 --> 1:15:52.599 don't blew that three hundred already we were don't we're don't. 1:15:52.600 --> 1:15:54.400 We're don'ta chunk that three hundred at three don't not 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:58.439 turning to nine. So I was able to take my 1:15:58.560 --> 1:16:02.720 guys and explain to him that you don't throw good 1:16:02.760 --> 1:16:05.880 money at the bad money. Sometimes you gotta walk away 1:16:05.920 --> 1:16:08.800 and say, you know what, that was my bad. You 1:16:08.880 --> 1:16:11.960 know I should have knew. I have a model that 1:16:12.120 --> 1:16:13.960 did I go by is that I don't give people 1:16:14.080 --> 1:16:16.840 something I can't afford to give them. If I give 1:16:16.880 --> 1:16:19.479 it to you, I can afford to lose it. To 1:16:19.600 --> 1:16:21.639 lose it meaning to give it alone for a hundred 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:24.040 thousands if you don't pay you back. And you know 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:28.040 that's that was all good. But what's the difference between 1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:32.439 like Freeway taking the name, Rick Ross taking a name 1:16:33.120 --> 1:16:39.320 between them both they got both of you. You know 1:16:39.400 --> 1:16:41.040 they're not the only ones. We got Rich out of 1:16:41.080 --> 1:16:44.559 out of Kansas City, free Rich. Remember you ain't never 1:16:44.600 --> 1:16:46.760 heard of rich. I told that one went over my head. 1:16:47.000 --> 1:16:52.280 Richard Rich is hard like Kansas City. St. Louis the 1:16:52.360 --> 1:16:55.799 Bay Area. I think, I think, I think hard hard 1:16:56.280 --> 1:16:58.200 to Kansas City. He set it out for. But but 1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:00.519 but that's a different freeway. They said it out for you. 1:17:01.040 --> 1:17:04.120 You know, they show you even though none of them 1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:06.760 gave me no money. But none of them ain't gave 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:08.720 me no money. But you know, nobody came and say, 1:17:08.760 --> 1:17:09.960 you know what, I'm gonna through a show for you. 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:13.360 You know you you want motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:15.120 I love you to death. You know I got your 1:17:15.200 --> 1:17:17.439 name tacked on my hand. That's how much I love you. 1:17:18.040 --> 1:17:20.920 None of them didn't do that. But at least when 1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:24.840 I come to town, they come out, We sit down, 1:17:25.040 --> 1:17:27.720 we talked. You know what I'm saying, It's like we 1:17:27.840 --> 1:17:35.400 got a relationship with with old boy, he deliberately lied 1:17:35.479 --> 1:17:37.880 to me about us and building a relationship. I was 1:17:37.920 --> 1:17:42.000 more concerned about us building a relationship than than than 1:17:42.160 --> 1:17:45.160 some money. So I knew him. I knew when they 1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:48.720 bust some doors. When they bust some doors, I said, 1:17:48.720 --> 1:17:50.600 if anybody out they got money, I'm gonna get some 1:17:50.720 --> 1:17:53.400 of it. And no way, y'all gonna have no money 1:17:53.400 --> 1:17:55.040 and I don't get none of it. But do you 1:17:55.160 --> 1:17:57.519 think that's why he was kind of scared? Maybe maybe 1:17:57.760 --> 1:17:59.960 the one point you said is uh, like you said, 1:18:00.000 --> 1:18:01.880 it's the real Rick Ross, But you think it was 1:18:01.960 --> 1:18:04.679 kind of scared that if if it's kind of scared 1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:08.400 of a lawsuit or a storation type of we did 1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:10.439 we did do it. Lawsuit. Yeah, and I'm sure he 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:13.840 was right to the lawsuit. He's probably probably thought about, 1:18:13.840 --> 1:18:16.479 you know, this guy's a big drug you know, um 1:18:18.080 --> 1:18:22.840 because you know they getting short exactly, Yeah, exactly. There's 1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:27.320 a lot of games. But I've never been with this 1:18:27.400 --> 1:18:29.360 story man, you know. But but you can see how 1:18:29.439 --> 1:18:31.599 he can miss construe that though, can you see. I'm 1:18:31.640 --> 1:18:33.599 just I'm just trying to do good. But but you're 1:18:33.600 --> 1:18:36.200 still supposed to know who you're dealing with exactly. And 1:18:36.320 --> 1:18:38.680 that's what that's what really fucked me up about the 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:41.519 whole game right now, with all these motherfucker's with money, 1:18:42.160 --> 1:18:44.599 all of them, they got money. Right now, I don't 1:18:44.640 --> 1:18:48.200 respect him, don't give a funking and and anything. I'm 1:18:48.200 --> 1:18:53.240 gonna hater, but they don't understand the mind, you know, 1:18:53.439 --> 1:18:55.439 even with Florida. You know, Floyd picked me up from 1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:59.479 the halfway house, and all I wanted from Ford was 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:02.960 me around the game because I know if they put 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:05.519 me around the game, I'm gonna figure the motherfucker out. 1:19:06.320 --> 1:19:08.560 I don't care what game it is. You put me 1:19:08.640 --> 1:19:10.360 in jail, I'm gonna know how to read, I'm gonna 1:19:10.400 --> 1:19:12.479 learn how to do the law. Who I was doing 1:19:12.560 --> 1:19:14.439 other people about how I got dudes out of prison. 1:19:14.479 --> 1:19:16.160 I don't got him bail. When the lawyer said you 1:19:16.160 --> 1:19:18.320 ain't getting no bill, I showed him how to do bill. 1:19:18.920 --> 1:19:20.439 I showed him how to go. Oh, look at this 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:24.479 here the judge. The judge only got two ways that 1:19:24.560 --> 1:19:28.800 he can depart from the guidelines. Well, we were seeing 1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:34.600 the point cooperate with the government. A post conviction real delictation. 1:19:35.640 --> 1:19:37.880 So if you go to a a class, you start 1:19:37.960 --> 1:19:40.560 taking drug classes before you go to court, before you 1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:45.080 get convicted, they're gonna change that is post conviction real abilitation. 1:19:45.439 --> 1:19:47.439 Now to judge, he give you any monet of time 1:19:47.479 --> 1:19:49.160 to you. I just get somebody the game. The other 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:51.920 day they called me crying. Oh my niece he feeling 1:19:51.960 --> 1:19:54.080 go to tail. I said, why you didn't call me 1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:56.639 when she first got arrested. I said, you, my girl, 1:19:56.680 --> 1:19:58.960 I would have gave you this ship for free. I said, 1:19:58.960 --> 1:20:00.720 look when she got to go get they do this, 1:20:00.880 --> 1:20:02.600 do that, do that? Now the judge is gonna be 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:05.760 able to part from the guideline. And if you don't 1:20:05.800 --> 1:20:08.439 study the law, if you ain't in tune, you ain't 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:11.439 gonna know this. But that was my game. When I 1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:14.320 got in Tune, I knew how to get bailed. I 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:16.200 knew how that I couldn't get myself out was my 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:19.400 case was so enormous, you know, like it was guys 1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:22.080 in there that were so cold, but they couldn't get 1:20:22.080 --> 1:20:24.800 their self out because the case was so horrendous. You 1:20:24.880 --> 1:20:27.080 know what I'm saying. They killed three or four motherfucker's 1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:29.920 and they're not gonna let you out. But no matter 1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:31.960 how smart you get in all, you're not getting out. 1:20:33.240 --> 1:20:36.280 But they knew how to do the law. And that's 1:20:36.320 --> 1:20:38.280 what I had did when I was in there. I 1:20:38.400 --> 1:20:44.479 had studied. Basically, what I did is I started studying 1:20:44.520 --> 1:20:48.160 the law the way I sold dope. I loved it. 1:20:49.200 --> 1:20:52.519 Love love selling dope. When I sold dope, I loved it. 1:20:52.600 --> 1:20:54.719 I was winning to die for it. I was willing 1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:58.240 to kill for it. I mean when it was a 1:20:58.360 --> 1:21:01.160 time that they was like, oh man, will uh, they're 1:21:01.160 --> 1:21:06.080 talking about they're gonna kidnap you. I said, just there 1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:08.040 was a word on the street, you know. I mean, 1:21:08.080 --> 1:21:11.400 you know I'm running around with two three I'm run 1:21:11.439 --> 1:21:13.080 around with two three million in Deffel bags. I got 1:21:13.120 --> 1:21:15.280 two three dudes, can my deffle bags with honey in it. 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:18.080 So the word is out of there. They're gonna kidnap me. 1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:20.320 So I put on my bulletproof vest. I put my 1:21:20.360 --> 1:21:22.560 pists on my pocket and let's do it. You know. 1:21:23.120 --> 1:21:24.800 But I'm gonna be a quipped, you know what I'm 1:21:24.800 --> 1:21:27.840 saying at this time. Mothers ain't wearing bulletpool vest at 1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:30.479 this time. This is like early in the game. You know, 1:21:30.600 --> 1:21:33.120 we go get the bulletproof vest that that the forty 1:21:33.200 --> 1:21:37.280 five bullets won't go through. Because I'm always trying to 1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:40.680 be up on the latest and the greatest. I got 1:21:40.800 --> 1:21:44.040 no crud have been home, you know. But man, he 1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:46.040 was telling about how you invest in big coin. I 1:21:46.120 --> 1:21:52.920 was like, fu' not for some people. It's still a 1:21:52.960 --> 1:21:59.559 long term investment for some people. At words, we gotta 1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:05.160 cut them, Okay, we gotta, yeah, we gotta. You need back. 1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:09.639 You already know we're back at Drake Chaps, and listen 1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:14.960 right now we have the King Cocaine and we have 1:22:15.160 --> 1:22:23.880 the the son of the Queen of Cocaine. This is crazy, Mike, 1:22:24.040 --> 1:22:33.519 what's going on? Brother Selda ain't gonna show out right now. 1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:39.479 It's a matter how two episodes in um Um two episodes, 1:22:39.560 --> 1:22:42.679 and I believe and that's that's the clothing line. You're buncle. 1:22:43.120 --> 1:22:45.439 So I'm telling how it is growing up in the 1:22:45.520 --> 1:22:49.559 house of how is it going growing up Blanco uncle? 1:22:51.439 --> 1:22:53.800 I think freaking vosh Fred. I mean a lot of 1:22:53.880 --> 1:22:57.080 people want to throw you know, a little bizzas on 1:22:57.200 --> 1:22:59.479 the things and over exaggerate. But when he came down 1:22:59.560 --> 1:23:03.200 tune it. Let's say the Sopranos, it was the Blanco house. 1:23:03.360 --> 1:23:05.360 You know, it was business on the street. But no 1:23:05.520 --> 1:23:08.920 guns at the table. Don't say nothing crazy in front 1:23:08.960 --> 1:23:11.840 of the kid. Bodyguards say there they come, eat with us, 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:14.720 but no guns at the table. And mama was a 1:23:14.800 --> 1:23:20.120 strip one. Yeah, sent you to school everything. Yeah, it's 1:23:20.160 --> 1:23:22.200 not like you know, it's like people like, you know, 1:23:22.400 --> 1:23:30.400 like waking up and Mom's like, hey good. I mean 1:23:30.439 --> 1:23:32.040 in my later years as I got older, you know, 1:23:32.200 --> 1:23:34.479 they had to do little things, but they never when 1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:39.840 my mother put me in arm's way, the baby right right. Yeah. 1:23:41.000 --> 1:23:43.360 Did you ever think of that that some of your 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:48.400 babies will grow up like and eventually lived like lifestyle? Yeah? Yeah, 1:23:48.960 --> 1:23:53.240 you know I had two sons that were really three 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:57.479 that that took the gangster lifestyle. Definitely. Yeah, yeah, I got. 1:23:57.560 --> 1:24:02.280 I got three sons have been to jail. They go hard. 1:24:02.479 --> 1:24:04.000 You know what I'm saying. I was just with one 1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:05.920 of his sons. Yeah, yeah, he was just with one 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:07.360 of my sons who just got out of prison. A 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:10.280 matter of fact, Yeah, I didn't even know that. And 1:24:10.400 --> 1:24:15.000 you know I knew of his mom in there was 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:18.720 any like cross well you know, uh the niggarackas you 1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:24.120 should talk about her. Yeah, Mama Coca, and she knew 1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:26.479 of him, and they knew the same people, so they 1:24:26.560 --> 1:24:29.160 probably sold the way to the same people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:32.040 we we I'm sure that that my guys was getting 1:24:32.040 --> 1:24:34.639 it from her at times. I say that they definitely talked. 1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:36.599 I mean, you know they was getting it from uh 1:24:36.760 --> 1:24:42.840 the brothers Escobar and his mom. You ever seen a 1:24:42.840 --> 1:24:46.240 little trouble ball brothers. Of course, my brother Cheeki Blancle 1:24:46.360 --> 1:24:51.360 was the prodigy of Pablo ands with Choice and he 1:24:51.520 --> 1:24:53.519 was the baby. He was there prodigy. When he jumped 1:24:53.520 --> 1:24:56.000 out of doing his seven years in the FEDS, he 1:24:56.240 --> 1:24:59.360 stayed at their house week and a half later, sent 1:24:59.439 --> 1:25:04.320 four hundred. I heard you saying the reality show that 1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:06.960 you'll never go back to Columbia as much as I 1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:08.880 would love to see loved ones and everything. I can't. 1:25:08.920 --> 1:25:11.400 I got an asylum in this country. But you gotta 1:25:11.439 --> 1:25:15.559 what an asylum. It's called the Convention against Torture. Oh, 1:25:15.920 --> 1:25:18.960 I don't even know what that. You can't, I can't. 1:25:19.120 --> 1:25:21.800 You can't visit because of that? Yeah, well, I mean 1:25:21.840 --> 1:25:23.720 because of that and because I choose not to, I 1:25:23.800 --> 1:25:25.920 gave up that life, you know, And I mean to me, 1:25:26.000 --> 1:25:27.880 that's what made the show even more real. I was 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:30.240 watching with my girl that part, and I was like, 1:25:30.400 --> 1:25:32.160 this is where I think this is not a regular 1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:34.760 reality show, because Doc, if you would have gone there, 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:37.560 I would have been like, it shows how real it 1:25:37.680 --> 1:25:39.720 is because it's still fresh. Well you know me, you 1:25:39.760 --> 1:25:42.680 know what this is. This is kind of recent in 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:47.280 real time. Your mother passed away, not that long ago, assassinated, 1:25:47.400 --> 1:25:51.160 and my brothers were my brothers were Sassinday nineties, two 1:25:51.240 --> 1:25:56.439 thousand and one, even go to be God bless man. 1:25:56.720 --> 1:25:59.160 I'm not gonna lie. When I watched Cocaine Cowboys the 1:25:59.240 --> 1:26:03.280 same way I watched Um, you know um roll Ship, 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:07.519 It's like, um, the level of that lifestyle, I just 1:26:07.880 --> 1:26:10.040 I just couldn't see that, Like, you know what, I'm 1:26:10.080 --> 1:26:12.200 saying like obviously I sold drugs, but I've never was 1:26:12.280 --> 1:26:15.760 on y'all level, like that level at all, but like, um, 1:26:16.680 --> 1:26:20.240 that that level of like like I heard, I heard 1:26:20.280 --> 1:26:23.840 you say that you if a person stole from you, 1:26:23.920 --> 1:26:26.800 you just wouldn't work with them. Yeah, yeah, it was. 1:26:27.000 --> 1:26:28.760 It was. It was cheaper for me not to work 1:26:28.840 --> 1:26:34.560 with him. I mean to kill them or to to 1:26:34.960 --> 1:26:37.719 to use my powers. I mean, you gotta be careful 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:40.719 because you become a bully. But you can start bullying 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:42.880 people around. You know, you got it easier to become 1:26:42.880 --> 1:26:45.519 a bully. It is easy. I mean, you got you got. 1:26:46.040 --> 1:26:47.840 At one time, I had like all of the shot 1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:50.240 callers damn near in l A, all the black shot 1:26:50.320 --> 1:26:54.479 callers a under one card, you know, like for the 1:26:54.520 --> 1:26:59.920 people that who was like the one of the founders 1:27:00.080 --> 1:27:02.559 Great Street, like a hunch. I need you. I can 1:27:02.600 --> 1:27:05.840 call big you a big cal from the sixties, you know, 1:27:06.040 --> 1:27:09.320 putting t rodgers from the Blood. These were all like 1:27:10.120 --> 1:27:13.000 my dudes, you know what I'm saying, Like right now 1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:15.479 we still like like this here, if they got it, 1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:19.320 I can get it, you know. Uh So when when 1:27:19.439 --> 1:27:22.040 when you're in that position, you have to be really 1:27:22.680 --> 1:27:28.639 particular about what your what your decisions are. Your mom's 1:27:28.720 --> 1:27:33.280 was like the exact opposite if she she got a 1:27:33.320 --> 1:27:40.440 hat missing, according to the documentary. I watched that documentary 1:27:40.520 --> 1:27:44.680 like my mother had the same and she told me 1:27:44.760 --> 1:27:46.200 this when I was a kid, that it doesn't matter 1:27:46.200 --> 1:27:48.439 if it's a hundred dollars or a hundred thousand dollars, 1:27:48.840 --> 1:27:53.160 it's the principle. So yeah, I've heard little stories that work. 1:27:53.280 --> 1:27:56.760 Whoa I owe is you like when when she was 1:27:56.800 --> 1:28:00.920 like like a like mother say that I was turning 1:28:00.960 --> 1:28:05.360 seven years old, my brother's turned My brothers were all 1:28:05.520 --> 1:28:08.320 arrested and died when I was seven for the biggest 1:28:08.360 --> 1:28:10.840 money launching case in California state history. My brother was 1:28:11.680 --> 1:28:14.320 nineteen years old. He was worth a hundred million dollars already. 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:18.759 He was where he was a charts prodigy. Nos Cheeky Blanco. 1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:22.720 Cheeky Blanco handle the Bay Area, Beverly Hills a lot. 1:28:23.280 --> 1:28:25.559 They dealt with a lot of uh. I would say. 1:28:26.240 --> 1:28:28.360 My brother Cheeko was the first Columbian to deal with 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:31.200 the Afro Americans on the East Coast. And my mother 1:28:31.360 --> 1:28:39.759 was the Queen of queens. You know that Jackson crazy 1:28:39.800 --> 1:28:42.960 and we did something cool the hell over there. I 1:28:43.040 --> 1:28:44.960 mean we used to go out town and there's uh, 1:28:45.320 --> 1:28:47.360 you know, a process so crazy even that your mom's 1:28:47.439 --> 1:28:51.320 moved over there. It was I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So 1:28:52.120 --> 1:28:55.599 all right, So because what made you dude? The reality? 1:28:55.680 --> 1:28:58.200 So what does this is? Well, you know, I've been 1:28:58.200 --> 1:29:00.400 in the business for a minute when I met you, gentlemen. 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:02.439 Thank you to see you guys do what you've done. 1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:05.640 I congratulate you. Ten years ago, you guys gave me 1:29:05.720 --> 1:29:10.479 my first interview. So what made you do the reality? 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:12.679 I started getting into the business back then. I would 1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:15.120 see if anyone my partner Magic was in the music business, 1:29:15.439 --> 1:29:19.400 what it helped me get into the business. John Gardi, 1:29:19.439 --> 1:29:22.360 Buggy segu you know they did it back then. I 1:29:22.439 --> 1:29:24.680 saw we grew up on hip hop. We grew up 1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:27.200 on you you know, you know what, We grew up 1:29:27.200 --> 1:29:31.120 on some mob ship of these guys becoming metamorphosizing into 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:34.160 these legal entities jay Z Damon Dash. So when you 1:29:34.200 --> 1:29:35.720 grow up in that area and you see, damn these 1:29:35.760 --> 1:29:38.559 boys talking about the dope that ross. So these boys 1:29:38.560 --> 1:29:41.400 talking about my mom and Pablo, but they look like 1:29:41.560 --> 1:29:44.040 dope dealers. Damn, I live that lifestyle. Yeah, if they 1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:47.680 don't gotta worry about the jack boys, the criminals, FBI, 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:50.320 d A damn. I want to be just like jay Z. 1:29:50.439 --> 1:29:52.960 I want to be like that guy right now. You 1:29:53.040 --> 1:29:55.720 see you see what he talks about Rick Ross? Right man? 1:29:56.720 --> 1:30:00.360 Uh see how he felt? Right now? There's actually because 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:03.680 out the records O tons name it. No, there's an 1:30:03.720 --> 1:30:09.560 actually records label called yeah records get Betty? What is it? 1:30:10.160 --> 1:30:15.800 Betty blocks? West side Gun? What's your Who was Conway? Right? 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:22.519 I heard that stuff that he felt like. I wouldn't Okay, 1:30:22.560 --> 1:30:24.840 you knew me before and I was a criminal, and 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:28.479 you knew me when. I would have took a different route. 1:30:29.080 --> 1:30:31.679 But I would have expect it with this gentleman, a legend. 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:33.840 I'm not a legend. I'm coming to be, but I'm 1:30:33.840 --> 1:30:37.320 from the streets, so I would have loved and appreciate it. Yo, Mike, 1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:39.080 can I wrap with you? Can I hang what you can? 1:30:39.200 --> 1:30:41.120 Can we probably think about this? Yeah? Can I get 1:30:41.160 --> 1:30:44.600 my buddy and his approach? His approach? He said, he 1:30:44.720 --> 1:30:48.760 said he reached out, He reached out. They spoke and 1:30:48.840 --> 1:30:52.080 he said that he felt like the lines was, how 1:30:52.120 --> 1:30:54.240 would you go about that? He should have never had 1:30:54.280 --> 1:30:55.760 to reach out. They should have reached out to him. 1:30:56.200 --> 1:30:57.880 That's how you spell me. Yeah, so you need to 1:30:58.160 --> 1:31:00.760 expect that. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it, Jim, because that's 1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:04.160 what I'm doing. I mean, next we'll talk. I mean, 1:31:04.240 --> 1:31:08.080 if honestly, I think somebody did something to me, somebody 1:31:08.120 --> 1:31:10.360 did be a favorite, and somebody did me a favorite, 1:31:10.360 --> 1:31:12.840 I'm gonna reach out and in paying back, you know 1:31:12.880 --> 1:31:14.400 what I'm saying, as soon as I get a chance. 1:31:14.840 --> 1:31:19.120 You know, we we don't take from the will to 1:31:19.200 --> 1:31:21.920 never put back, you know, otherwise pretty soon a well 1:31:22.000 --> 1:31:25.439 gonna be tried. We gotta always put back. Well, this 1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:27.240 could be the platform where they reach out to you, 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:31.120 and maybe you gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest, 1:31:31.160 --> 1:31:34.599 you know what I think, me knowing like like both 1:31:34.680 --> 1:31:37.559 of you guys, I just feel like the community knowing. Yeah. 1:31:37.600 --> 1:31:40.439 I know I don't know well enough, but I know 1:31:40.560 --> 1:31:43.360 him enough to know that. I don't think he meant malice. 1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:45.560 I think I never no, no, no, I think I 1:31:45.640 --> 1:31:48.080 never said that. Yeah, he loves me to death. Yeah, 1:31:48.080 --> 1:31:52.599 I think that's us. I think you tattoo a motherfucker 1:31:52.720 --> 1:31:57.800 name on your hands. I love that motherfucker right along. 1:31:57.880 --> 1:32:00.639 I mean, if you look at his fist. I saw 1:32:00.720 --> 1:32:02.360 him in the magazine. He was like this here he 1:32:02.400 --> 1:32:05.680 had my name tattooed on his hand. This motherfucking love 1:32:05.760 --> 1:32:11.280 with me. I think, I don't think the only thing 1:32:11.360 --> 1:32:14.479 he probably mad about he can't marry me when he 1:32:14.600 --> 1:32:17.920 held me, you know what I'm saying. So, because you 1:32:18.000 --> 1:32:20.599 know what, I think, that's how it starts. I think 1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:23.800 you know what it is, so many black of us 1:32:23.960 --> 1:32:28.360 we call ourselves Escotball, right, we'll call ourselves Gotti, right, 1:32:28.800 --> 1:32:32.240 and then we'll call ourselves the Gambino family. And then 1:32:32.280 --> 1:32:35.519 we realized that the Gambino family even like black people, right, 1:32:35.960 --> 1:32:37.840 And like you know what I'm saying. So, so this 1:32:38.000 --> 1:32:40.960 is the first job, this is given both of your brothers. 1:32:41.880 --> 1:32:44.120 This is the first time people from our culture is 1:32:44.200 --> 1:32:49.320 actually emulating our own culture. So that that's the one 1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:51.320 thing that's good about I respect that that's the one 1:32:51.360 --> 1:32:54.439 thing that's good about it. Praising the black another black bout, 1:32:54.960 --> 1:32:56.800 you know what I'm saying. And that's the one thing, like, 1:32:56.960 --> 1:32:59.120 no matter how you feel about it, it's like at 1:32:59.200 --> 1:33:03.200 least that praise our culture, like because it would be 1:33:03.320 --> 1:33:13.799 hitting that's remember when she said leaving the Federal building, 1:33:13.880 --> 1:33:16.559 the black widow called me miss white, and I heard 1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:18.920 that something like so I love that. So in the 1:33:19.040 --> 1:33:21.280 Friend of the Friends, no no, no, no, but I 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:24.960 understand that. And then no products with that. But let's 1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:29.080 do something together. If it's really I feel, and it 1:33:29.200 --> 1:33:30.960 really is that way I feel. I mean, if we're 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:32.880 gonna keep it real, we can be like Donald Trump 1:33:33.400 --> 1:33:35.720 and everything is what it ain't. You know what I'm saying. 1:33:35.760 --> 1:33:37.080 What he said it is, it's what it is, and 1:33:37.200 --> 1:33:39.439 what it said it ain't. It ain't me me and 1:33:39.479 --> 1:33:42.240 people outside looking at I could tell that he he 1:33:42.400 --> 1:33:44.160 wanted to do the right thing, but I felt like 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:47.680 he got he got railroaded. It's it's like this, it's 1:33:47.680 --> 1:33:49.320 just like this. You know what I did when I 1:33:49.439 --> 1:33:51.439 reached out to noriegas fact, I just didn't even know 1:33:51.560 --> 1:33:54.040 you reached out actually did because I actually wanted them 1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:59.320 in the video, I don't even get Remember he was 1:34:00.080 --> 1:34:04.120 do he wasn't killing I wasn't I wasn't get permission. 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:06.840 I was trying everything I can do. We shot the woman, 1:34:10.920 --> 1:34:12.960 but I think wasn't let him know, like, yeah, I'm 1:34:13.000 --> 1:34:15.960 not tarnishing your name. It was the room and I 1:34:16.120 --> 1:34:18.439 never spelled to the same you know, his his name 1:34:18.439 --> 1:34:22.080 is spelled r E I E A G E E 1:34:22.520 --> 1:34:30.280 E I E. So I wanted them to know, and 1:34:30.360 --> 1:34:32.400 I wanted, you know, like whatever, like if I can 1:34:32.479 --> 1:34:34.840 help out, you know what I'm saying, something like, because 1:34:34.880 --> 1:34:36.639 I wanted to know I'm not trying to tarnish your name, 1:34:36.680 --> 1:34:39.320 and in fact, I'm actually keeping your name alive no doubt. 1:34:40.120 --> 1:34:42.880 And I recognized that I recognize what he's done for 1:34:42.960 --> 1:34:46.120 my name. But at the same time, I wanted to 1:34:46.200 --> 1:34:49.360 exercise to power, right, you know what I'm saying, And 1:34:49.479 --> 1:34:53.880 he could have allowed me to exercise that power quicker. 1:34:54.200 --> 1:34:56.360 Now I'm going to exercise my power. They're gonna fill 1:34:56.400 --> 1:34:58.920 me in another couple of months. They're going to know 1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:02.200 that this mone is the same mind that that that 1:35:02.360 --> 1:35:05.000 took a hundred and twenty five dollars and my partner 1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:07.280 had a hundred twenty five and we build a three 1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:10.360 million dollars every now and then empire, but a million 1:35:10.400 --> 1:35:14.800 dollars every single day. I'm getting ready to implement that again. 1:35:15.800 --> 1:35:19.000 But he could have escalated that. I could have been 1:35:19.040 --> 1:35:22.439 doing that six years ago in a perfect world. What 1:35:22.640 --> 1:35:26.240 what what would you in a perfect world? Right? You 1:35:26.360 --> 1:35:29.599 came home, he gave me a job, said, come on, man, 1:35:29.640 --> 1:35:32.120 we're gonna go talk to your p O. I'm gonna 1:35:32.160 --> 1:35:35.040 tell your PO that you're canna be working with me 1:35:35.640 --> 1:35:38.560 domin legit. I ain't got no criminal record, because you 1:35:38.560 --> 1:35:41.519 don't even have no criminal I interviewed him for the lawsuit. 1:35:41.560 --> 1:35:45.160 I am him downtown and they say, oh, you've ever 1:35:45.240 --> 1:35:47.679 been to jail and he was like, oh yeah, yeah, 1:35:49.760 --> 1:35:52.480 well what did you go to jail? Four? A marijuana 1:35:52.560 --> 1:35:55.679 one time? So he had a clean record. My PO 1:35:55.720 --> 1:35:57.439 would have let me round with him. You know what 1:35:57.520 --> 1:35:59.760 I'm saying. It wouldn't have been like, oh, we don't 1:35:59.800 --> 1:36:03.080 want name with him. But now, now, just being DEVI advocate, 1:36:03.439 --> 1:36:06.679 what if he was like the position that he could 1:36:06.680 --> 1:36:08.639 have offered you was something that he would have thought 1:36:08.760 --> 1:36:11.160 was beneath He made me thought I didn't handle position 1:36:11.200 --> 1:36:12.760 that was beneath me. You know what I told myself 1:36:12.840 --> 1:36:14.479 when I was getting out. True. But listen, I'm gonna 1:36:14.479 --> 1:36:16.000 be honest. I'ma be honest. Let me just let me 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:18.040 just let me just go to I would tell you, 1:36:18.120 --> 1:36:21.000 and then you know why, you know this is why 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:23.280 a lot of people are sometimes be scared to do 1:36:23.400 --> 1:36:25.600 something for the street guy because they don't want to 1:36:25.680 --> 1:36:28.519 offer him a position where you're kind of like a 1:36:28.720 --> 1:36:32.599 soldier when you when you were boss. And so that's 1:36:32.600 --> 1:36:34.719 why a lot of the street guys can't converts, because 1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:36.920 the person that's trying to put them on knows that 1:36:37.479 --> 1:36:39.920 or feels that these guys more of a wolf than that. 1:36:40.280 --> 1:36:44.160 But the I'm gonna have to stop. Stop. You know, 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:46.280 you don't get your research on me. Yes, you know 1:36:46.400 --> 1:36:48.680 how I carry it? Even what if he did, but 1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:50.760 he was supposed to know me. He had studied me. 1:36:51.640 --> 1:36:54.400 Rest that he had studied me, all right, he used 1:36:54.439 --> 1:36:57.880 my my sayings in in in in music, so he 1:36:57.960 --> 1:37:01.000 knew who I was. Yeah. But but but in all 1:37:01.080 --> 1:37:04.240 due respect, you could have still been a killer. You 1:37:04.320 --> 1:37:06.519 could have still been a killer. He's just nor he 1:37:06.600 --> 1:37:10.879 had researched nor. He had researched me. He read my cases, 1:37:11.640 --> 1:37:14.240 he read my cases, he read all the articles, he 1:37:14.439 --> 1:37:17.640 watched all the dollar documentaries, and he knew about me 1:37:17.720 --> 1:37:20.519 before everybody else did. No, I agree, I agree, But 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:23.080 what if what if you know the person who's not 1:37:23.200 --> 1:37:25.519 used to dealing with a person of that caliber. Is 1:37:25.600 --> 1:37:27.160 he just made the wrong move where we know he 1:37:27.280 --> 1:37:29.080 we know he had never dealt with the street dudes. 1:37:29.439 --> 1:37:31.240 You know, I know, I know he had credit cards 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:33.479 in high school. A lot of people don't know that. 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:35.360 You know, most of us ain't never seen no credit 1:37:35.400 --> 1:37:37.439 I've seen I just started getting credit cards two or 1:37:37.479 --> 1:37:40.080 three years ago. But he had credit cards in high school. 1:37:40.720 --> 1:37:43.560 So he definitely didn't know about the streets. You know, 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:50.600 but he should have had enough sense to say, I 1:37:50.720 --> 1:37:54.320 studied this dude. I know this dude's background. I knew 1:37:54.400 --> 1:37:56.720 that this dude ain't gonna extort me. This dude don't 1:37:56.760 --> 1:38:00.840 extort people. He not in the extorting. He into making money, 1:38:01.640 --> 1:38:05.320 He's into making moves. He's a thinker, he's a shaker, 1:38:05.360 --> 1:38:07.880 he's a mover. That's what he was supposed to see. 1:38:08.479 --> 1:38:11.479 And for him not seeing that, he swept on the game. 1:38:11.720 --> 1:38:14.280 I agree, but I guess I can. I agree with 1:38:14.360 --> 1:38:17.639 you just one million percentage, so you know I agree. 1:38:17.880 --> 1:38:21.599 I agree that everybody should pay homage to the people 1:38:21.640 --> 1:38:23.800 that come form, especially if if you take any part 1:38:23.800 --> 1:38:26.320 of their life, if I take any if I started 1:38:26.520 --> 1:38:31.200 naming myself fucking Supreme, I should be calling you know, 1:38:31.479 --> 1:38:34.040 to to to to job rules, was calling the earth 1:38:34.120 --> 1:38:35.920 guy that should be making sure that I noticed that. 1:38:36.040 --> 1:38:37.400 I took that part of it like the first person 1:38:37.479 --> 1:38:39.479 they ever met, a supreme You gotta do that one 1:38:39.560 --> 1:38:42.760 million percent. But then certain people just don't know how 1:38:42.840 --> 1:38:46.120 to approach things like no, I agree, and I said, 1:38:46.320 --> 1:38:48.800 sensirely believe that if you guys were to have a 1:38:48.880 --> 1:38:51.680 little conversation, I kid you not because like like me, 1:38:52.240 --> 1:38:56.960 like it's a sensible guy. I'm just trying to. I 1:38:56.960 --> 1:38:59.040 ain't got no problem with too. I would love no 1:38:59.120 --> 1:39:02.680 problem with I don't need his money. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:05.080 I would love to. I'm cracking now. You know. I'm 1:39:05.080 --> 1:39:06.800 fixed the beef T jay Z and Fat Joe. You 1:39:06.840 --> 1:39:13.479 know what I'm saying. Come on, let's have another one 1:39:13.560 --> 1:39:16.120 with both, y'all. I'm good. I'm a good beat squash 1:39:16.400 --> 1:39:18.120 because you know, but it ain't no beat, dope. You 1:39:18.160 --> 1:39:20.679 don't know what I mean, don't be misunderstand it. Ain't 1:39:20.680 --> 1:39:23.320 even have a misunderstanding. I mean, it just ain't nothing. 1:39:23.760 --> 1:39:25.760 You know, we don't. I'm sure they can figure it out. 1:39:26.200 --> 1:39:28.599 Miami boys break bread just like sure you could break 1:39:28.640 --> 1:39:32.759 a little like just like just like let's I always 1:39:32.800 --> 1:39:35.799 imagine that when I heard myself up records and they 1:39:35.920 --> 1:39:39.439 lit right now, they fired up, seen the videos. It's good. 1:39:39.640 --> 1:39:41.560 My own boy went through the stores. Ship, you know that. 1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:45.920 I just came from that. I thought, But what happened, 1:39:46.320 --> 1:39:48.240 What happens back in your day? What happens If that's 1:39:48.240 --> 1:39:50.880 what they think you reach, They saying, well, we don't 1:39:50.920 --> 1:39:53.400 got no breder for you, but we gotta perspect. Man. Listen, 1:39:53.560 --> 1:39:56.160 I'm not gonna tell you I'm filthy, filthy, rich and 1:39:56.240 --> 1:39:58.000 as that. But I'm comfortable, you know, and I work 1:39:58.040 --> 1:40:00.639 hard for my money. I'm gonna keep it real. Motherfucker 1:40:00.720 --> 1:40:03.240 went broke because the federal guvernment took every motherfucking dollar 1:40:03.280 --> 1:40:05.680 I had. So now I'm rebuilding my ship. What we 1:40:06.000 --> 1:40:09.879 do and what my generation, my generations after his generation, 1:40:09.960 --> 1:40:11.880 we learned from watching him. We learned from watching him. 1:40:11.920 --> 1:40:14.320 Are we're changing the game. When you're dealing in a 1:40:14.439 --> 1:40:17.439 corporate status and you're here moving in the room full 1:40:17.479 --> 1:40:20.040 of vultures, but all these vultures have suits. You learned 1:40:20.080 --> 1:40:22.360 a lot, and what you learned is to be a 1:40:22.479 --> 1:40:25.400 corporate mind. I'm not gonna lean on the niggas why 1:40:25.400 --> 1:40:27.280 you know I'm not gonna lean on them because I can't. 1:40:27.320 --> 1:40:30.320 Why because he taught us not to go back to jail, right, 1:40:30.360 --> 1:40:32.080 you know what extortion is what I used to run 1:40:32.200 --> 1:40:34.840 my record label, like, so I ain't doing that again. 1:40:34.920 --> 1:40:38.080 Like my daughter said, I'm legit forever. So why would 1:40:38.080 --> 1:40:40.360 I even approach these gentlemen talk to them the wrong way? 1:40:41.080 --> 1:40:42.720 What happens if you was to reach out and you 1:40:42.800 --> 1:40:45.280 felt like it was like like sometimes I'm gonna be 1:40:45.320 --> 1:40:50.200 straight over you don't want some bread, I'm trying to 1:40:50.320 --> 1:40:53.080 like Sue or something like No, not that if I would, 1:40:53.160 --> 1:40:55.680 I mean I can't. There's no grounds for it. So 1:40:55.840 --> 1:40:58.360 I've already had that question. That's that's a real last name. 1:40:58.439 --> 1:41:00.680 That's a real name, right, Yeah, I know they have 1:41:00.800 --> 1:41:03.840 their their complete legit, and kudos to them. Get your money. 1:41:03.880 --> 1:41:06.360 I have no hate for people getting you have anc 1:41:06.520 --> 1:41:08.760 But if that's your life. No. I owned the power 1:41:08.760 --> 1:41:11.600 of attorney for myself and the Blanco last name, but 1:41:11.720 --> 1:41:14.000 before my mother passed away, I wanted to vote her 1:41:14.120 --> 1:41:16.000 life attorney. So what happens if you want to make 1:41:16.040 --> 1:41:18.240 something cocaz Elda you have that? Yeah, I mean, you 1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:22.280 can't challenge my states. It's my favor. Can't challenge my 1:41:23.240 --> 1:41:25.760 you know that's that's that would be honest. Both of 1:41:25.800 --> 1:41:27.680 you brothers. Take you off for showing up because you 1:41:27.720 --> 1:41:30.160 know what the crazy ship is. Now what happens is 1:41:30.800 --> 1:41:32.840 you know someone because I'm gonna do the same thing 1:41:32.880 --> 1:41:38.280 to be so I'm gonna take Nori. But the first 1:41:38.320 --> 1:41:41.120 time you ever heard slime in the music business, that's me. 1:41:41.800 --> 1:41:43.479 And now you hear that, you copy right that ship. 1:41:44.439 --> 1:41:47.400 I ain't feeling reason to copyright that ship. We was 1:41:47.520 --> 1:41:50.400 using it as a joke. My boy, my boy. He 1:41:50.520 --> 1:41:53.519 was saying, Yo, he's gonna go to get a pepper 1:41:53.600 --> 1:41:56.479 dime sandwich. I said, pepper din, I said that sound 1:41:56.479 --> 1:41:59.120 like pepper Brody. I don't want that ship. Nigger came back. 1:41:59.160 --> 1:42:00.519 It was a turkey and chas I said, they I 1:42:00.560 --> 1:42:03.400 don't eat turkey, don't eat palk. I said, well, let 1:42:03.439 --> 1:42:05.840 me get a piece. He said, nigga, you slime. That's it. 1:42:07.240 --> 1:42:10.719 That's how the language all this ship, these things they 1:42:11.520 --> 1:42:15.880 a criminate to blood language and then Clinican this this game. Listen, 1:42:15.960 --> 1:42:19.000 that's bullshit. She was made up on the last There 1:42:19.040 --> 1:42:22.360 ain't street of medicine. Pepper died Turkey and cheap sandwich, 1:42:24.400 --> 1:42:29.720 real ship. So I feel I've been the victim. They 1:42:29.800 --> 1:42:31.720 took jump off from me, and they took hate rade 1:42:31.760 --> 1:42:34.680 for me. Here's a whole words of me. Then I 1:42:34.760 --> 1:42:36.439 take my name and take but this is the same 1:42:36.479 --> 1:42:38.920 as action. So I feel you brothers, my brother, Yo, 1:42:39.120 --> 1:42:41.400 Rick ross Man, We've been trying to get get you 1:42:41.560 --> 1:42:44.280 here forever. Man, you're a real legend. We've been trying 1:42:44.320 --> 1:42:47.040 to hit each other. Yeah, yes, yes, man, And you 1:42:47.120 --> 1:42:48.640 know what. You know that that's how that's how the 1:42:48.720 --> 1:42:51.400 Lord works. On your birthday, you got a chance to 1:42:51.479 --> 1:42:53.880 sit down with us and salute to have a couple 1:42:53.880 --> 1:42:55.840 of Man, Yo, let me just tell you something that 1:43:00.720 --> 1:43:10.200 he said, brother, what load all legends overhead man, and 1:43:10.280 --> 1:43:13.160 you are a pure, certified legend. I love your story. 1:43:13.240 --> 1:43:15.640 I love the fact that so many people let me 1:43:15.680 --> 1:43:17.439 just tell you about you. So many people would have 1:43:18.160 --> 1:43:21.599 folded and said, you know what, I'm going home, I'm 1:43:21.720 --> 1:43:25.080 going under under the cracks, and not have told your story. 1:43:25.120 --> 1:43:27.200 So many people are scared is speaking about the c 1:43:27.400 --> 1:43:29.240 I So many people are scared of speak about the 1:43:29.280 --> 1:43:31.160 conscious and all that. The fact that you're in the 1:43:31.240 --> 1:43:33.560 front line and just letting people know, Look, this is 1:43:33.640 --> 1:43:35.559 my life. This is real. This ain't no, this ain't 1:43:35.600 --> 1:43:38.600 no motherfuckering made up story. This is real life. And 1:43:39.400 --> 1:43:41.840 that's that's real. Shift. I salute you, I commend you, 1:43:42.200 --> 1:43:44.360 and I want to say that you know everyone shs 1:43:44.400 --> 1:43:46.519 to salute you and commend you mad because you've been 1:43:46.640 --> 1:43:54.080 through it. Said he introduced us years ago. Our X 1:43:54.120 --> 1:43:57.240 brought me by your way. He's the one that brought 1:43:57.240 --> 1:44:00.760 me by. That's my little guy. Remember tennis balls from 1:44:01.680 --> 1:44:05.960 Trust Everything and you you know your mother is a legend. 1:44:06.439 --> 1:44:08.920 Um you're soon to be legend. I love what you're 1:44:08.920 --> 1:44:16.280 doing on the street. Three episodes Tomorrow Monday, Tomorrow Monday night. 1:44:18.720 --> 1:44:25.120 Give up company to giving me some company. Man, So listen, man, 1:44:25.160 --> 1:44:27.160 I think both of your brothers we're coming through. Man. 1:44:27.400 --> 1:44:36.599 Get a couple of drops, streak check the entire the room, 1:44:36.600 --> 1:45:03.519 bum with Get him as the t