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Speaker 1: And his Drink Chess Motherfucking Podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper.

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Speaker 1: He's Sagres your boy in O r E. He's a

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Speaker 1: Miami hippopper pioneer. One up is d j e FN

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Speaker 1: Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players

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Speaker 1: in the most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one

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Speaker 1: source for drunk back drin Chess motherfucking is New year'

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Speaker 1: z that time for drink champs, Drink up the mother

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Speaker 1: What he could be one? Your boy O right? What

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Speaker 1: up is dj e f F F is militating motherfucking Happy Hour?

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Speaker 1: Almost said Militiam in Crazy Rod Radio, Al wants you

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Speaker 1: actually that right? Well, let me just tell you something.

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Speaker 1: When we started this show, we wanted to big up

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Speaker 1: people who are legend in this game and people who

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Speaker 1: are groundbreakers. When we talk about this man right now,

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Speaker 1: this man has broke the mold when it came to

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Speaker 1: He has took himself from nothing. I believe he started

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Speaker 1: saying in pride, you know, have his children, uh to

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Speaker 1: c I A contra controversy and he's still alive, still

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Speaker 1: here to prove it. I was watching the documentary knowing documentaries,

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Speaker 1: She's like, Oh, I think they're gonna kill him, like

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Speaker 1: from back then, from back there, like you know the

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Speaker 1: of the one of the curious things that Mr Leak

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Speaker 1: he posted the Champagne Police. Don't make it salid a gunshot,

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Speaker 1: a lot of tangs in here. We don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Don't like that. So one of the one of the

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Speaker 1: crazy things was you wasn't born in South central n

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Speaker 1: You're actually born in Texas. But it was was five

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Speaker 1: funny because you're demeanor with sometimes when I see you,

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Speaker 1: he from Houston. I'm from Tyland, right right, right right,

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Speaker 1: So so goddamn, I don't know where the start. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you know, but the drink chance, this

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Speaker 1: want to get on their flowers. Now. So many people

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Speaker 1: when people passed away, they want to say how great

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Speaker 1: The people get up there and say how holyer than

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Speaker 1: now and how much this guy changed to later at

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Speaker 1: this point, we want to give people their flowers now.

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Speaker 1: One of the craziest things in the world. And I

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Speaker 1: side of the s is they they got the wild cowboys, right,

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Speaker 1: But I always had grew up thinking that a Dominican

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Speaker 1: Let's take it from there. Yeah, well I didn't invent crack, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know the story? Ben? So Now when I'm watching

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Speaker 1: know what the briefs supposed to say and and and uh,

425
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: like I said, I was. I was in the books

426
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: all day. I started too. When you came across those words,

427
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: you understood those words immediately, absolutely absolutely, because like I

428
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: get what you're saying, but it's still complicated, like what

429
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: you're saying, Oh, no question. The judge didn't understand it.

430
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: She didn't understand you. She just didn't understand my prosecute.

431
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: My lawyer didn't. I paid that dude a lot of

432
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: money due the dude who did my peel. The dud

433
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: who did my peel wasn't in love the judge, the

434
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: guardian who went to trial with me. My trial lawyer said, hey, man,

435
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: that little money you got left, put it on your books.

436
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: Keep that because you're gonna need it. You got a

437
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: lot of time to do. In fact, I had to

438
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: go with another dude who hadn't even talked to me,

439
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying before, So I had to

440
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: get him to understand what I was saying too, because

441
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: he didn't really understand it either. They was all more

442
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: can serned about crossing state lines. So you're saying, if

443
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: you got caught twice, the nick could have proved that

444
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: you was, it would have been a correct convicted twice.

445
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: You could have you got caught more than twice, but convicted, right.

446
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: And I've been convicted twice. But it was the same

447
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: criminal spree I went to. I went to Texas and

448
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: I said, I'm guilty. I went to Cincinnati, I'm guilty, Louis,

449
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm guilty. But it was still I never got out

450
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: of handcuffs. See, they took me from one state to

451
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: the next day to the next day. I was never

452
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: bout the handcuffs. I was always like this here everywhere

453
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: I went. It wasn't like I got out and I'm friend,

454
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: and then I started slinging again and got caught. It

455
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, you've been in this state this day.

456
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: Then we all been looking for you. So when they

457
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: got me, everybody want a piece of me. Wow. So

458
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you something that's a little

459
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: off subing, but it's on subject right. How could every

460
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: movie or every every like ending to something always says

461
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: this is the last one, like this is the last

462
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: And when I'm watching your document should be you're saying

463
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: you're out, you came home, you build a community setting.

464
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: It's hard, man, It's hard not to go back, you know,

465
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: to the whale. You know, when everything's get tough and uh,

466
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: you have a tendency to go back to your habits.

467
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: You know. Like a person who started trying to stop

468
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes and his wife started acting up. He picked

469
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: up a cigarette. You know what I'm saying, something go wrong.

470
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: He picked up a cigarette. So with me, my crutch

471
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: had become selling cocaine. Cocaine made everything better for me,

472
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: no matter what was going on. I could go sales

473
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: from cocaine and get it up right, acting up, I

474
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna make some money now she felt good. You know

475
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, uh, so so so we have a

476
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: tendency to go back to crutches, and cocaine have become

477
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: for me a crutch because one of my how we

478
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: were so poor. Right, let me tell you I was

479
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: the first time when I got to jail, I run

480
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: across the dude I went to junior high school with

481
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: right and uh when we run into each other with man,

482
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: you Joseph Petrie and he's like Rick. Man, He's like,

483
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: and I heard about you, but I didn't believe it.

484
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: I was like, what you mean? He I couldn't believe

485
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: you made that kind of money. I said, why not?

486
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: He said, Man, you was a poor dude in the neighborhood.

487
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: He said, I remember when used to take tennis shoes,

488
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: tennis balls to your tennis shoes to keep your feet

489
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: from being on the ground. And you and your brothers

490
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: U should change pens with the same pants every day.

491
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: We all knew y'all was running each other's so so

492
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: to to too come from there to wonder where I

493
00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: wound up. Money had become my escape. You know, that

494
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: was like everything that I wanted. I didn't want nothing else.

495
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: I wanted to to to fix my mama. Floors. I

496
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: wanted to put windows in her house. I want a

497
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: new carpet in her house. I wanted to have a

498
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: new kitchen. Uh, to do the things that I felt

499
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: would make her life the way I thought that should be.

500
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: You know, this is my mama, that's how she should

501
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: be living. And uh, that was my goal. And then

502
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: nothing else really matter, and um let's make some looksture.

503
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: I got that. That's real ship. That's a real ship,

504
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: like you know, Uh no, no, we'll do a little

505
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: bit more than them. To come back to that. I

506
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: got so much going on in my head. Yeah, you

507
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: got so much to a very interesting guy, like and

508
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: I think about it, let's getting more in the resting up.

509
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: And I think about it as this. A lot of

510
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: people would have been in your position and came home

511
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: and did it again. Well you know, I mean I

512
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: did it that second time time. You know, I did

513
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: the food that second time when you as famous that

514
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: second time or like you know what I'm saying in

515
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: the streets, I was like the dog boys knew me.

516
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: It's it's it's almost like right now, you know, like

517
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: like uh now you TMZ famous. Don't work around nigga,

518
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: don't work around. Still, it's still it's still when what

519
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: I what I know about my my famousness because I study,

520
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: I study everything that I do. I study. Um, the

521
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: people who like me usually dough boys first of course,

522
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: next hustlers, hero and athletes. So it's really a male

523
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: base of guys who are trying to get money or

524
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: who like money, either one both of those already the same.

525
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: You can't separate the two. That's my fan base. Those

526
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: are the people who who bought my book, you know,

527
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: like it was guys in the street brought my books.

528
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: And man, I can't even read Rick, but fuck it.

529
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: You know, I learn so much from you from the

530
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: videos and when you went to trial, and I used

531
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: that ship right now, So uh, I understand who support

532
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: me and who who who liked me? You know what

533
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I also know that those the motherfucker's

534
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: who run the streets, you know what I'm saying. That's

535
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: why I can feel comfortable by going to any city

536
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: in this country and don't have no problems because the

537
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: dudes who run them streets funk with me. Well, you was,

538
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: you was the literally the first co king kingpin. Well,

539
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, because you know we got we got young

540
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: basketball here. We're gonna bring him in. Um. But have

541
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: you ever have you ever ran into other than the

542
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: nicka rockingans? Have you ever been like Colombians or like

543
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: anybody other than that level? Because I imagine you they

544
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: ain't had to be ringing bells with all the cartoon.

545
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I should come down here, you

546
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 1: know with the Nigger Rock. This is the where they

547
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: had their meetings that with uh. This is where the

548
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Colombians and the Nigga Rock was just meet right here

549
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: in Miami. I was coming to Miami two you know. Uh.

550
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: They would make me come in and come to the

551
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: meetings and sit down and tell them what we could do.

552
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: You know how many kids we could move. I remember

553
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: the first time I came down here, man, and it's

554
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: in the book too, and UH and they had me.

555
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: I brought all my money down me. I brought like

556
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand, six fifty. That was every time of

557
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: the plane. Yeah, we flew in on the pane with

558
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: my boys. We flew in on the planes. We went

559
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: to UH, I think we went to us. We went

560
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: to Jackson because we didn't want to come into Miami

561
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: with Miami Jackson, Jacksonville. Yeah, we went to Jackson and

562
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: we took a round. We drove down so we do

563
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: the deal. I bought a doll and when we finished

564
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: doing the deal, we had fire hollars, no car, no

565
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: plane tickets, and no money at home. So we're sitting

566
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: in a hotel room with twenty bricks and we like,

567
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna get this ship on your drivers. Like,

568
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: so we buy, we buy, Uh, we buy suburban. We

569
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: bought old subourban. I think we paid like twelve hundred

570
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: dollars for it. Man, and uh, we're rolling back. We

571
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: stopped in Georgia. We rest in Georgia, but this country. Yeah,

572
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: we drove all the way back to l A. Listen,

573
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: I blow the motherfucking car up in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I'm

574
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: following the diesel truck. It's raining like a motherfucker, right,

575
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: but we're seen to be rich. I'm going to be rich.

576
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: So we're rolling. It's about eleven o'clock at night. My

577
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: boys asleep. I hear him. I said, man, the truck ticking.

578
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: They said, what we told you, don't drive this motherfucker

579
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: too fast. I'm trying to get home. So well, just

580
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: like and this blew up right right on the side

581
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: of the highway. So yeah, we call over. We grabbed

582
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: the bricks out there, back the suitcase, throw them in

583
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: some bushes, called the toad truck to come get us.

584
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: Told truck come get us. Now we're in Tennessee. We

585
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: got like three fifty dollars, no driver license, no more money,

586
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: and nobody to call. So twenty bricks, twenty bricks. The

587
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: toad truck take us with the twenty bricks because we

588
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: throw the bricks back in the car. Once the toad

589
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: truck cook up, we're fend the road. So he takes

590
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: us to a junkyard. Oh white dude, Man, I never

591
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: forget this dude. Dude, coolest motherfucking New World. Man. I

592
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: love that dude. I wouldn't have made it without him. Man,

593
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: that that favorite he did for us helped us out

594
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot. So we did. He's like, man, it's something

595
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: funny about you dudes. Man, none y'all got driver license,

596
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: y'all can't get a rim car. What's going on with y'all?

597
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: So we got the bricks in the back of the

598
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: car that broke down. So he said, you know what,

599
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: you see that old truck over there. It was a

600
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: little small forward you all truck a little little bit

601
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: one and he said, uh, y'all give me three hundred

602
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: of hollars and uh man, we took that. We got

603
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: to Vegas. We drove with all the way across country.

604
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: My boys was big too. Man, there's about six too,

605
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: so his legs is all over and we're sticking. It

606
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: was the stick shifts. We're hitting each other. But we

607
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: got to Vegas, man, and the boys came and picked

608
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: us up, and we was like, man, we are. So

609
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: we took that and that was our first time hitting

610
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: a million dollars after we dumped that. Now, let me

611
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: ask you something. Was the cocaine cheaper in Miami or

612
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: at that time it was. That's the reason why, because

613
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: because that's where we always heard like colways coming to cheap.

614
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: Though back then it's like forty five thousand of keybows,

615
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: But in l A it was like two d was

616
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: cheaper for that sunder. Just because I'm from New York,

617
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: so I need to know I'm she wasn't New York.

618
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: We wasn't even going to New York, New York. Then

619
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: when started going to New York to like eighty five Jesus.

620
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: So everybody from Miami was bawling. Yeah, and Miami was

621
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: Miami was a place, you know, that was the word.

622
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: It was a port entry at that time. You know,

623
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: the columedies was coming here. That wasn't before the columedy

624
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: start coming in to to l A. You know, once they

625
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: found out that l A was a bigger market. I

626
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: guess then they started pointing in the l A. And

627
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: uh that's when the price you know, the price war

628
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: started because like I said, when we first first kilo

629
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: we bought, we paid like forty five forty seven four

630
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: but ounces, you know, we should pay thirty three seven thousand,

631
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: forty seven thousand po kilo, but ounces we should pay

632
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: the first ounce I brought up pay thirty two two

633
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: d two hundred ounces of cocaine, and so I had

634
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: to break it down and make gold and make like

635
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: nine thousands all for one ounce. O what's my man?

636
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: You said you gave him? He he read up with

637
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred. He gave him two ounces and he sold

638
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: it out on that what's his name? He's a coach now, Uh,

639
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: you're talking about coach Ward or you're talking about Han Cho. Uh,

640
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: probably I think you're talking about Hancho. Know well he

641
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: said he sold it out the same day. Oh you

642
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: talk about coach Ward. Coach Ward? Coach Ward? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

643
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: what coach was? He was a little football player, you know.

644
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: And those are kind of guys that I you should

645
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: look for, you know, I should look for it for

646
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: dudes that was discipline. Hit me up. Yeah, I got

647
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: you coming for you right now. But look at that person.

648
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: It's my birthday. We're gonna celebrate. Why didn't nobody telling

649
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: us his birthday? I don't already celebrate that ship no

650
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: way thought? Yeah yeah, coach Ward, he was a young dude,

651
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, and those are the dudes I should look for. Man,

652
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: good dudes, you know, ain't getting high? U trustworthy? You

653
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: know you can give him something that a rule in

654
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: your crew, don't get high. Because I noticed that. I

655
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: tried to try to implement that. But you know, dudes

656
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: don't listen. They'd rather be high and have money. And

657
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: that's my next book. Whatever I did you ever around?

658
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: Did you ever try I tried to go about a week,

659
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: maybe two weeks a week? Now, what did you try

660
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: to dry cold? I went hard because all realness back then,

661
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: cocaine was looked at like the rich man. Yeah yeah, yeah,

662
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I wasn't getting I wasn't using it because

663
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: well I was too. But let me say this here.

664
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: How the reason I didn't use because when I first

665
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: got involved, if the homies all told me like, if

666
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: you don't get high, you're gonna get rich, little motherfucker,

667
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: because I was like considered young. I was nine team,

668
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: but I was like young for the dudes who was

669
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: involved with with with with coke at that time. Um,

670
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean the Graham was three hundred dollars. So the

671
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: only motherfucker's could have for it was like pimps, glorious doctors.

672
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: So motherfucker's like me and under me, they really didn't

673
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: have no money. You know, I have money because I

674
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: have no sense to hang out with the pimps and

675
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: and uh that's how I really became exposed to the

676
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: game from hanging out with them. But at that time, man,

677
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: it was it was so damn expensive that did nobody did.

678
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Nobody had no money to get that. Could you think

679
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: you could you think the error? And again we're not

680
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: glorifying I pople understanding that this is fact. FU facts

681
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: it's history. You think you think a person could do

682
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: it on your level the way you did it back then,

683
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: Like like you know, you ever ever meet Don Diva

684
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: the FATS magazine. It's hard. It was like, man, this

685
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: this kid might have did it more bigger than me.

686
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: Like it's hard. You know, it's really hard to h

687
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: to duplicate that system. But you know, these kids are

688
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: smarter now, you know what I'm saying. They they learning

689
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: how to manute. Now. I couldn't manuver in this system,

690
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, Monet taking pictures of me. I'd have been

691
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: like hold up, man, you know it's a total different error.

692
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: You know, like now you know, like my nephews come

693
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: and show me the dudes is selling dope on the

694
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: internet and all that. You know, it's crazy. Yeah, hey,

695
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: but they're doing it right now. So you know, I

696
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: don't know how they're doing it, how they's working, you

697
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: know with us, you know, we're here in the shadows,

698
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, when we got down. But it's a different era.

699
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: But for some reason, these kids are gonna figure out

700
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: how to make it work, you know what I'm saying.

701
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there's somebody out there that's that's

702
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like Big Meat. Did you know

703
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Big Meets came up with a formula that worked during

704
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: that time? And I'm sure that there's somebody else right

705
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: now who's figure out how to, uh how to beat

706
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: the system. Now, that's that's funny you bring up Big

707
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Meets because one of the Big Meech's biggest downfalls. The

708
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: people would say it's it's just flashiness. Yeah, was like,

709
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, I remember going to a club kid you not.

710
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: It was fourteen of them and they had fourteen Lamborghinis outside.

711
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: I was like, there, no one crived with someone else

712
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: quick I was doing. I didn't leave me to after

713
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: he failed, Okay, yeah, after he failed, you know, Wendy

714
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: hooked us up and she wanted me to uh work

715
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: with him with his case and talk to him and

716
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: men him was writing through Wendy, so, uh, I was

717
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: corresponding with him and he told me what that offer

718
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: when they offered him the deal, and I gave him

719
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: my personal opinion on on the deal. You know, I

720
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't think that uh. I didn't think they had any

721
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: issues on winning this case. Uh and and I thought

722
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: that he should take the deal even though it was

723
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: thirty years. You know, I know, dudes that I wish

724
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: they would have took the thirty right now. They didn't

725
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: did thirty and still going because they didn't take the deal.

726
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: So I thought that it was in his best interest

727
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: to take the thirty year deal. But and in in

728
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: in the life that you guys live, it's being flashy

729
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: bad like how like you know, before John Gotti, we

730
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: really we knew of the mafia, but we didn't know

731
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: what about like you know, and I'm coming from Queens

732
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: where he's from. So when y'all guardy start flashing and

733
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: he started actually claiming that character, do you think that

734
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: was bad for business? Like? Absolutely absolutely, my guys, man,

735
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: one of them just got out to man. Little Tommy. Uh.

736
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: Little Tommy was like eighteen years old, he had two

737
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Rose Royces. Uh. Jermaine Jackson had bought a Ferrari and

738
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: didn't have all the money to get it out. Jamaine Jackson. Yeah,

739
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: Jermaine Jackson. He had a terrest test Rosen. He had

740
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: the first testar Rosa party in the country. And the

741
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: Testarossa was sitting in there on the showroom floor and

742
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: Little Tommy passed by and saw it, and he walked

743
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: in and he told them, man how much for the testarosa.

744
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: So the man told him the price and they said,

745
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: Tommy gave him ten thousand extra. You know, can tell

746
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Jermaine to wait till the next one. That's so. And

747
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: then he wrecked that one and everybody was laughing, and

748
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: he went back and bought another one. So, uh when

749
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: when they did this, it tipped the police off to

750
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: what we were doing because uh, for a while, um,

751
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: the police and know what we were doing. Like when

752
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: when you know, I got the sheriffs and died. It

753
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: the cops that was doing all of the stealing and

754
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: okayument yeah, I had to. I had to take care

755
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: of them. Was hurting the hood. They were stealing and robbing.

756
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: There's being robbing and robbing and then with sendail. They

757
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: would rob you and send you to jail. I'm like,

758
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: I can go with being robbed, but you ain't gonna

759
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: rob me and put me in jail, you know what

760
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, uh, I had the problem investigator to

761
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: investigate them. I spent a hundred thousand, my lawyer. I

762
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: go see my lawyer. So they're just ready my girlhouse. Right. No,

763
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: you never had no dop my girl house. How I

764
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: know we ain't forgotten no dope in there, you know,

765
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: because you know how you sometimes you know we do.

766
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: We used to keep by doping cars. You know. That's

767
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: how we beat the cops. They didn't understand the car game.

768
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, you go to the trunk in the car,

769
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: moved the car a block or two down the street.

770
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: Never see until you need it. Um, they're never gonna know.

771
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: So we always kept out doping cars. So sometimes we

772
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: will forget. And they had ten fifty keys in the

773
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: trunk of the card the car and open the trunk

774
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: and I know how ship in here. So I'm saying

775
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: when they waide their house and sit, damn, we need

776
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: that ship in there on the hexadent or something. You know.

777
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: Maybe one day we were left it under the state.

778
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: Well cash. If they had said cash, I would have

779
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: said yeah, you know, yeah, you know when they said dope.

780
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: But they said dope. You know this, my girl. You

781
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying something like, no, I ain't buying that,

782
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: So I gonna tell my lawyer, right and I'm like, man,

783
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: I know it won't doping now. He said, oh no,

784
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: you gotta have you had to at least him dough man,

785
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: I ain't lefing to dope in her house. So he said, oh,

786
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: so you're saying that crooked. He arguing with me. I'm

787
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, right, He argued with me. I said, I said, man,

788
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: weren't no dope in there. So he said, well, do

789
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: you think they croocket get a private investigator? Because I

790
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: never thought about it. I ain't know nothing about no

791
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: private investigator. You know what I'm saying. I ain't never

792
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: been the court. Yeah, So I said, well, man, who

793
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: was a private investigator? So he put me up. I

794
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: had a private investigator. I gat do the hundred grand

795
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: And so dude followed the cops around everywhere. They when

796
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: he went, okay, this is yeah. So he followed them

797
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: around and uh, he started bringing me back to evidence.

798
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, not only from my crew, but they were

799
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: also doing the same thing to other crews. Um eventually

800
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: they had a hundred fifty people that was in prison.

801
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: And when when they finally arrested me and indicted me,

802
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: I hand the investigation over to the prosecutor and like,

803
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what y'all trying to do, but these

804
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: dudes here then will be your witness. We got too

805
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: much dirt on them, so they let a hundred fifty

806
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: people out of prison. Wow, So they're like sending my

807
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: my notorieties and Big Putting, the founder of the Bloods,

808
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: was one of the guys who who who eventually got out,

809
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: And I didn't even know, you know, Putting was one

810
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: of my guys who he was. He was getting this

811
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: stuff from me. Uh, But I didn't know that the

812
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: cops had set him up until we all sitting in

813
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: there together and he was like, yeah, man, that motherfucker's

814
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: followed me from your house. This is another time where

815
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: the officers start talking about the judge because they had

816
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: the judge on another same case. Yeah, that's the same thing.

817
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: That's the same case. How I knew to be smart

818
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: like that, and I didn't the lawyer put me up.

819
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: But I was just I was just keen to what

820
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: he was saying. You know, when he telled me, he

821
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: telled me that he don't believe they're doing it. This motherfucker.

822
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: He's so smart, you don't believe they're doing it, right,

823
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: You think I'm lying a little. But back then it

824
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: did probably sound crazy because we wouldn't we hadn't hand. No.

825
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: So this this is probably one of the craziest cases

826
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: ever in the history of police force. You know, and

827
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: you know Rampart was offshoot of the Freeway Task Force.

828
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Remember the Rampart case were the dudes was stealing the

829
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: money and doing all the stuff that came out in

830
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: Let's not training day like based off of that. Training

831
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: day is based off of that, but it was deeper

832
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: in training. That training day didn't even touch the surface.

833
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: You see these cars in my face, all this flashlight

834
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: therapy while I was handcuffed, handcuffed my legs hog time

835
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: the dog. The dog bite me and they hit me

836
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: in the head with flashlight steal flashlights. They got these

837
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: big long ash steel flashlight names cracking you in the head.

838
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you go out and then they wake you up.

839
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest to this day, l a p D.

840
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: Is still the scariest niggas ever. A lie, I'm legal

841
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: forever and radio l A p D. I'll be looking

842
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: like that. I'll be looking like I don't know why

843
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: I looked all the way, man, I don't know. I

844
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: was scarting that most races. Yeah, and they got black

845
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: and white cars. They just they chest rated the shares sheriffs,

846
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: the green cars though no chrifs black and white to

847
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: both boy black and white ones just got chef road

848
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: on it. The riff run the county jails, you know,

849
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: they run the jails. They just got them for having

850
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: uh this coat, this white coat colt speaking body, they

851
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: got coat. I said that these these guys they own

852
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: boat too. They got so they was in jail having

853
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: dudes fighting with each other, uh, just doing all kind

854
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: of insane ship and the fiends just arrested, you know,

855
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: they arrested their head Chaff. He's in jail right now.

856
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, for the same stuff that he was allowing

857
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: this this activity be going on inside of our jails,

858
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: and um, all of that's just continuation of what had

859
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: started back in the eighties. Now in l A. It's

860
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: so like racial, like that's the most racial. Um when

861
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: it comes to streets, it comes to the streets is

862
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: like real rate. Like in business, this Mexicans in the

863
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: same meeting, it's blacks in the same meaning. But when

864
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: it comes to streets of l A, it's it's really segregated.

865
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Blood absolutely scripts. Then there's Mexicans and then there's Asians.

866
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: You are at the level you was at. Did you

867
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: have to deal with each every game? We already know

868
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: we were estab. I didn't really. I didn't really deal

869
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: with with Mexicans until I went to prison. Okay, when

870
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: I was on the street. Um, the black community was

871
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: so strong then that I didn't really need to come

872
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: outside of that that community. So I was able to

873
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: to to other than getting the drugs. I could stay

874
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: inside of my little comfort zone and and and make

875
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't if you walk up to me and

876
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: you was white, I what you're talking about? You know

877
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: you wasn't even interested in white cousin He's making a

878
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: was not. I didn't need that because I had the

879
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: cream of the black market. So this feasts, don't go

880
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: forget your thought. But my neighborhood, that was our goal

881
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: was to have like Barney coming from Rego Park to

882
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: come to off like this real nickname party. And we

883
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: used had his white lady named trans Am. She she

884
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: used to come through in a trans Am, but she

885
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: used to come to and buy like a five hunting pack.

886
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: Like you know, to us that I was huge. But

887
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: your goal was that I had the whole community, right

888
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: what what what my guys depending on those you know,

889
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: or they guys who was on the streets setting the fifties.

890
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: And but I had got to a position where I

891
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: wasn't selling less than like twenties, thirties, forties, fifties huntreds,

892
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, so I didn't really need um. You know,

893
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: Barney coming through a five runter trying running one of

894
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: them doing five hundred dollars right, give it to her exactly, exactly,

895
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. You know. I had. I had a guy

896
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: that wrote around with me every day to give our money.

897
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: That was his job. When people walk up to me

898
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: at the gas station, Oh my mon is and give

899
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: me a five hundred, give me three hundred, you know.

900
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: And he was taking him out the one dollar bag

901
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: and he like many pocket put together. Where is that y'all? Do? Man?

902
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: Man you see to fight the other day back back

903
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: here before you go jogging. He just hand out money

904
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: for real. That I mean, you got on some man

905
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: back this don't know. He was robbing for real. He

906
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: was selling coking giving it back with a lot of people.

907
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: They look at that as as as paying taxes, That's true.

908
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: When I looked at it, is taking care of the hood.

909
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: You know. I was in Jamaica one time and uh,

910
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: flow out there. This dude name't do this right and

911
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: do this had had the whole community. Like I didn't

912
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: ask what he did. He had had the whole community.

913
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: And we had to fill my video there. We had

914
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: to pay him, and he wanted to meet me. I

915
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: met him in the cave and too to three years

916
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: later in the cave, well two three years later, I'm

917
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: sitting there watching um the news. You know you're making

918
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: you better know, dude, who do what this is? I've

919
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: watched the news and I had I know idea. I

920
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: have met the biggest drug dealing and to make it.

921
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there and the whole neighborhood would not

922
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: give this thick up for like three or four days.

923
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: They was backing down the pool. Whatever the whatever this happened. Now,

924
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: when you're feed the hood, they're gonna look at the hood.

925
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Will hold you question? That was my question? No, oh no,

926
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: no you ain't. You ain't playing. It's like one time

927
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: I had a little incident, right, I had about it.

928
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but I had like ten

929
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: keys and I was at my mama's house. In the

930
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: car that we've been keeping him in. The homies needed it,

931
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: so I take them out, and my mama's fence and

932
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: my next door neighbor garage sit right next to each other,

933
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: so I had a little hole in the middle of it.

934
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: So I said, I'm gonna just throw them in between

935
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: the fence and the garage until I get ready for him.

936
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: So I threw him in between the fence. I'm just chilling,

937
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna play me some basketball and to

938
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: the fellers get back. So my mama called me. She said, hey, Mary,

939
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: say she got your package. I said, what she got

940
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: my package? So what I'm saying is that the neighborhood.

941
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: And she took my package and put it in the house.

942
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta keep it back there. You're righting in

943
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: the house. And this is a lady that's like seven

944
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: years old, you know what I'm saying. So when you're

945
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: taking care of the neighborhood, even though she wasn't making

946
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: money off of me, her grandkids was okay, and she

947
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: appreciated what I was doing for her grandkids, and she

948
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: was showing the love back from that by you know,

949
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: making sure my thing was good. That's one thing about

950
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, hustling, um is you can turn you can

951
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: turn it around if you want. I mean, you can

952
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: do good with the bad that you're doing. Like you know,

953
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: I know so many um Kenny Anderson, It's from my

954
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: hood and I remember, uh, well he's a couple of

955
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: years old to me, but I remember him trying to like,

956
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, him having a cold spreak, being in college

957
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: and trying to go to the NBA and him having

958
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: a cold speaker, trying to ask somebody to hustle, and

959
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: every drug dealer just just told him to shut the

960
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: funk up for the every drug deal amount count and

961
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: eat up and pay for whatever the funk he needed

962
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: at that time. And he had he had to do ship. Well,

963
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, the same thing with a little D. You know,

964
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: a little D from the Bay Area. You know, he

965
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: just got out I'm d too short in a big home. Yeah,

966
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: that's my little man, you know, he yeah, you know,

967
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: being him man when he was about man, he couldn't

968
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: have been more than seventeen. I met him and miss

969
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: the Fast Store of the Bay Area. Yeah, that's what

970
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: he told me. He was here there. Yeah, actually the

971
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: first time he introduced me to him. He was about

972
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: seventeen years old, and one of my boys put up

973
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: in the van. He's been telling me about little d

974
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: You know, he had been hitting me, but he wanted

975
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: to go directly to me. So, uh he had he

976
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: had connected us, and uh, you're a little dude. Was like,

977
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: I said, how much money you got me? Seventeen years old?

978
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: You had a million dollars, So you know, it was

979
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: like it didn't matter how old you was. It's just

980
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: a matter if you had the game to to to

981
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: to to put it down. So uh, it was just

982
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: so many ways and so many different dudes that was

983
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: was getting their money that I didn't need to go

984
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: outside of my community. You know, you got dudes coming

985
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: throwing down five hundred, six hundred thousand, so you know,

986
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: off a six hundred thousand out a deal. If I

987
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: put a hundred out of that for myself, I'm happy.

988
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: At one point, you were making more money than Magic

989
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: motherfucking jobs, you know. And uh, how did that feel?

990
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: With Magic sign this contract? Right and they put in

991
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: the paper, I think he was getting like one point

992
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: two billion. I was like, damn, I'm glad I don't

993
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: play basketball I'm not gonna lie, you know hard that

994
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: statement one. It was like damn ship. It was like,

995
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: damn man, he only gonna make two million dollars in Yeah,

996
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: he in trouble. Wow, that is crazy, man, that is crazy.

997
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: So now come on, everybody, everybody could who was close,

998
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: come over here to go. So you're in jail, you

999
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: probably reading, you're doing whatever, and I'm rebuilding and rebuilding.

1000
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm rebuilding and I'm like what I did because I

1001
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: got exposed a fair time when I went to jail.

1002
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: You know, somebody put me up on him, right, A

1003
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: couple of Muslim brothers, just like, man, you don't know

1004
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: about fair Con. You don't know about Malcolm X. I

1005
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: ain't never heard of Malcolm X. I ain't never heard

1006
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: about fair Come. You know I knew took it big on.

1007
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: You know Tony Stacy's cartoon big quick. What do you

1008
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: mean so mussling brother? One day he was like, man,

1009
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: come on, go to service man. You ain't doing nothing today.

1010
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: You know you ain't giving no tennis lessons because you

1011
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: know that's to my husble and that you was giving

1012
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: tennis lessons. Um, So I go to serviceman and uh,

1013
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: I see Farakhan for the first time in the jail. Yeah.

1014
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: So I'm checking him out. Man, I'm listening to how

1015
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: you talk, and he's like, oh, the black man is God.

1016
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: Black man can do anything. Like what is the smuggeran

1017
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: talking about it? sEH lost his mind. I'm a dun't eat.

1018
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: I'm a get sir. You know, I'm appos to sell

1019
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: dope all my life. I'm not getting back out. You know.

1020
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: We're doing the same thing, like I just sits the

1021
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: first bit. Okay, So I'm checking him out and you're

1022
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna get me. Loaded's okay, you burny, don't drink,

1023
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: It's okay, but I don't drink. Man drinking today. Bring

1024
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: your birthday. Listen to celebrate your birthday. We celebrate in

1025
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: your life and most important, we celebrate your survival. And

1026
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't want to cut you up because listen to man,

1027
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: this black man who could kill every day for doing

1028
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: the for a spectrum of what you did to life

1029
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: the society for you to live. I think that that

1030
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: should be celebrated. I think it should be a charnished

1031
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it should be a love. I

1032
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: think that you know every I think that what you're

1033
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: doing is honorable, because you could have just said, you

1034
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: know why I did this and fun up people like

1035
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: and that's it. But you're out here trying to make

1036
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: a fu change a change that's motherfucker. That's sucking dope.

1037
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna read the books. You know

1038
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that the books. But let me ask you,

1039
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: because I see, I see what's going there. But let

1040
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: me ask you. So when you first heard hustling every day,

1041
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm hustling every day, I'm hustling and it's time flattered, flattered,

1042
00:57:53,120 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: and you said that's high. Yeah, alright, was flatter and

1043
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: at the same time. So I don't really know how

1044
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: to feel about this thing. So I get on the phone.

1045
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: I started calling people in who know this story, you know,

1046
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: because I still got my music. You know, I found

1047
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: alcoholics while I was in prison. But wait, the group

1048
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: that yeah that's got signed just put them down with

1049
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: Kee Tee. No, ken T put them down with me.

1050
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: Ken was my man. You know, if I if I

1051
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: listen to Keithie, I'll be the key of hip hop.

1052
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: Right now, I slipped on hip hop, d J Pool

1053
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: and key T try to get me do hip hop

1054
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: right before I was going to need a baker. But

1055
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: what I did is I went with the dudes with

1056
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: the I see Oldis Smith had at that time, Otis

1057
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: had Johnny Taylor the whole mag and then it convinced

1058
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: me to go with him. He took me to Dick,

1059
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: Griffy Berry Guardy and they all say hip hop is

1060
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: a fad. I was tipping with hip hop, but I

1061
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't get all the way in it because them too, them,

1062
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: them dudes had convinced me that it wasn't gonna last.

1063
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: But I had them like this here, but I didn't

1064
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: know that I should be telling them what to do

1065
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: instead of that. Then King t is telling you, telling

1066
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: me hip hop is the one. What I'm saying, it's crazy.

1067
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: So you would have been the first death ro Really

1068
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: this here, really listen to this here, and listen to this.

1069
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: I go to this house, I go to this house.

1070
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: Right Who who stays at one of my girl's house? Sometimes?

1071
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: You know what I got. I got like four girls,

1072
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: and I say house and house house. You know when

1073
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: the girls ain't when I ain't there, they bring when

1074
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: their little cousins over somebody and you know from company.

1075
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: So my one girl, My one girl. Her little cousin

1076
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: is a goop what's called man Cap who was the

1077
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: first group on our records. Um, that was her little cousin.

1078
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: Her other cousin was another dude named Tail who who DJ.

1079
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: Pooling was like this. So they would be at my

1080
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: house all the time. I would come over. Theyre being

1081
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: they're making beef bla blah blah blahla beating on the

1082
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: table and all that ship and they're like, man, you

1083
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: want to do Pools record. You know, he's gonna work

1084
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: with L cool J. And he's doing this and he's

1085
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: doing that, and so you know, maybe maybe because you're

1086
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: the financier of the hood. Obviously I got the bread.

1087
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with all the bread

1088
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: I got. It's hard to hide this ship. We put

1089
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: one down the bill with the people garage and they're

1090
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: cutting holes in the back of the garage and taking

1091
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: the safe out. So, uh, Pool takes me over to

1092
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: this house and I go in to apartment. Wasn't the

1093
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: house in his apartment? So I go in this apartment

1094
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: and so forty motherfucker's in there. They're laying all over

1095
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: the floor and looked worse than my crackhouts. So I'm like,

1096
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: what the funking on here? Is this? What y'all? They

1097
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: got wires everywhere turntables? I'm like, fuck. So when I

1098
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: leave on the Bay, should I messed with the motherfucker's

1099
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: with the high rises in Beverly Hills olders Smith did Griffy?

1100
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: Or should I mess with these young for seventeen years old?

1101
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Who tell me he needs two hundred thousand? Oh, it's

1102
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: just tell me he needs six. I already gave him

1103
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: the six Huntred, So now I'm the banging. Should I

1104
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: get Pool two hundred? See? Pool would have told me

1105
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: he needed forty thousand to do album, which where the

1106
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: rap album was costing at the time. I would have

1107
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: gave it to him. He's trying to go big. He

1108
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: was trying to go big, and I just gave oh

1109
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: the six hundred. So I was like, I ain't ready

1110
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: to put this kind of music on, this kind of

1111
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: money into the music industry right now. W A out

1112
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: yet out y'all? From I go me Dre when I

1113
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: get out of prison, out of it. This is the

1114
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: first time to get right now like years ago and

1115
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: I d when I was in jail, but I never

1116
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: met him. So I go to his house about five

1117
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: six years ago, right right before we was doing Cracking

1118
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: the System, because Dred told me when I was in jail,

1119
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna do the soundtrack. He said, whatever you do,

1120
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the soundtrack for you. So I go

1121
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: over to his house and we're talking about doing the soundtrack.

1122
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: He was like, wait, you don't remember that house. I said, yeah,

1123
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: I remember, I came over there. He said, I was

1124
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: in that house the day that you came jord. Wow.

1125
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: So when it when it hit me, it was like,

1126
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: oh fuck. You had an opportunity to have doctor Dre

1127
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: at that time, and really I had to hold because

1128
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: I had Oldis Smith and did GRIFFI was the first distributors.

1129
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: They were the first independent distributors of black music. Uh.

1130
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: Did Griffin New negotiated Shugs deal within the scope. I

1131
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: don't know if you know that he negotiated that. That

1132
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: was me and Harryo with Sally's when they started Death Roll.

1133
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: That's when they first first started. When they first started

1134
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: Death Roll, I met Sill to day Harryo met Shill.

1135
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: I was in the same room with with the day

1136
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: before she'll got in me and Harry. Oh, David Kenner

1137
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: was sitting uh the attorney booth, and Harry told David Kenner,

1138
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you more money in the music business

1139
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: than you ever made as an attorney. I was sitting

1140
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: in that room when he told him that we was

1141
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: in jail. It was in m d c. L A downtown. Wow. Well,

1142
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, HARRYO have been in in in Pelican Bay,

1143
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: which is considered it's like solitary confinement where where all

1144
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: you got to do is read books, read newspapers. It's

1145
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: really the high profile maximum security. That's where they put

1146
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: like the worst are the worst. You dudes who came

1147
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: who can't walk to mind uh, too violent, too much pool.

1148
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:07,959
Speaker 1: You know, the don't want you to get no mail

1149
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: and then want you're talking to nobody. You don't get

1150
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: no visits and why you ain't go there. I didn't

1151
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: go to the state. I went to the Y's right,

1152
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: that's right. You know, Harry went to the state because

1153
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: he had a kidnap, attempted murder. So I said, now

1154
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: back back to Rick Ross, right, So back to I'm

1155
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: sorry Rick Ross right. So the first time we're you

1156
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: robbing okay, okay, real quick, before the Freeway come to

1157
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: you first. No no, no, no, no no, let me

1158
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: let me, let me, let me because Freeway, even though

1159
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: he came out before Rick Ross, I feel like Rick

1160
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: Ross was more, that meant more to you. Yeah, but

1161
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: I just want to know timeline was that had free

1162
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: Way already come to you? He didn't come to me either. Okay,

1163
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: so let's take it from there. I so you're in

1164
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: your in jail obviously, Uh yeah, um, every day I'm hustling. Yeah,

1165
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: what's just something that you can relate to? Absolutely, that

1166
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: was my saying. And then did you know that when

1167
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: the people played this record, this artist's name was Rick Ross?

1168
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: Or did you you knew that prior to listen? I

1169
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 1: knew before the record came out, you know, And yeah,

1170
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: we was. I was studying the music business because I

1171
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: had sought my mistake. You know, I'm like in there,

1172
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: like you know you've done? Motherfucker? What the fun was

1173
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: you thinking about? You had you had it in your hands?

1174
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: How did you How did you let this get out

1175
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: your hands? So I'm in jail, networking, you know, turns

1176
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: in the windy days, and people had already told you

1177
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: as an artist coming out named Rick Ross. The magazine,

1178
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: the magazine before you ever hit you know, we get

1179
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: all the magazine. We didn't. We didn't, said, yok we didn't.

1180
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: We didn't. We didn't hear Rick Ross two. We actually

1181
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: heard the actually you know, I mean, y'all hear the magazine.

1182
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: What was that magazine that was coming out of the South.

1183
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: Julia Beverley, she loved him. That was her boy. She

1184
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: blew him up man, she got she I think they

1185
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: might have been fucking. That's how we thought that jail

1186
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: it was. That's how she was on. Okay, So back first,

1187
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: at first, every day you're hustling. It's a great record, amazing, great,

1188
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: great record. Every hustler had to love that, had to

1189
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: love that. And then this is this is why I'm involved,

1190
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: Because in the record he says, I know Pablo Noriega

1191
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: the real noise. So he's trying to this is I think,

1192
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that's the reason why I didn't take

1193
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: that line. Never personal. Not when I first met him,

1194
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: he told me it wasn't it wasn't like that. But

1195
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: when he was trying to apply that, he was like,

1196
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: your status correct, But have you ever dealt with Pablo.

1197
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: What he did is he switched it up because he

1198
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: didn't want I mean, you know he wasn't. I spoke

1199
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: to him when I was in jail. Oh oh yeah,

1200
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: I had. I had a phone call with him, and

1201
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: he had a maildown before the record or after the

1202
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: record came out, before the restaurant, because he was at

1203
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: this time he was when I first found out about him.

1204
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: He was just doing the magazines and he was writing

1205
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: for he was stepping Starter was right for treating up. No, no, no,

1206
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: he was getting ready to his album is get ready

1207
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: to come out? He was getting ready for the album out.

1208
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: But he was, you know, before before the album or

1209
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: the record comes out, they do the magazines first. You know,

1210
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: you're doing the old zone. So I seen him in

1211
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: the magazines and I'm like, I know, somebody got to notice, dude.

1212
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: But I do too many people. So I'm hitting all

1213
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: my boys. So one of my boys, he write for

1214
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: Smooth Magazine. He's, oh yeah, he'd be here Monday at

1215
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. I put you on the phone with him,

1216
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: So my boy, I called him. My boy put him

1217
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: on the phone. He don't know it's me. My boy

1218
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: just handing the phone. He had met somebody want to

1219
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: high let you. So he get on the phone. I

1220
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: holler me, oh, man, you don't know. He thinks he's

1221
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: been set up. Oh big home meet got his bodyguards

1222
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: by itself. Oh big home mee. I love you, and

1223
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, just like jacking me off hard. So I say, uh,

1224
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: I say, look, man, I got some my beers for us.

1225
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: We can do this thing together. You don't have to

1226
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: be me. You can just be my supporter. Um, okay, okay,

1227
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: IM will come to see you and I'm gonna do this.

1228
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. So I called him like one

1229
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: more time after that, and uh, he put this guy

1230
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: Pucci on the phone and uh, they sent us a

1231
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: busiting form. So I sent him to busity Forum. They

1232
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: never feel a form out. Next thing I know, the

1233
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: number was changed. You know that was an end of

1234
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: our conversation. As you think, that's where I ret wrong,

1235
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: because obviously it's because obviously you had to feel flatters

1236
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: like me personally as a person was a wrapper, right,

1237
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: And um, I wanted to just just show you the

1238
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: similarities in my situation. I had never I had never

1239
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: chose the name of Norieg I was actually in jail

1240
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: reading a book about Noriega, and the ship was so thick.

1241
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 1: People I think it's the child. I was like, you

1242
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: think you ain't beating that ship, and just like playfully

1243
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: grabbed a book for me or knocked down or something,

1244
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: and they started reading. And then whatever they asked me

1245
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: on that page, I had knew it. So people just

1246
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: nicknamed me Noriega. No, no doubt, so I had. I

1247
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: still didn't go by the name of Noriega. Um. So

1248
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: I came home from jail. When I came home from jail,

1249
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: Capone had came to see me, which his name was

1250
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: not Capone in jail um but and he kept calling

1251
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: me Noriega. So people in my hood thought it was funny.

1252
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: So I was like, we called this the Noriega too.

1253
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: We called him Ariga too. But in retrospect, I reached

1254
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: out to Noriega's family because I knew how it could be,

1255
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, tooking the wrong way right. So when I

1256
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: reached out and I couldn't get the actual um contact

1257
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 1: that I wanted or someone that was you know, valuable

1258
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: to talk about it, what I did was I changed

1259
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: my name in the Northy right and I totally get

1260
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: that because I never named myself freeway right, Okay. I

1261
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: grew up on the side of the freeway. And when

1262
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: we started low riding, we started low ride. It was

1263
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: a dude who was like the king of low ride

1264
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: at the time. And uh, one of my little partner

1265
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: was banging his wife. He didn't like it. You know,

1266
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so you know, we like a lot

1267
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: of people don't like that. Years old. He like when

1268
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: five eighteen year old banging his wife. So he found

1269
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: out that my boy banging his wife. So he's like, oh,

1270
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 1: you junky ask freeway boys, and it was an insult.

1271
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: Freeway we should be an insult. You didn't want to

1272
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: be no freeway boy. That's why I was asking. You

1273
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: didn't read the article about my obituary. You missed that.

1274
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: When you missed that, you got to read that article

1275
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: because l a Man magazine. Uh, this dude came to

1276
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: visit me at the prison when I had my life

1277
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: sentence and he called himself right in my obituary. He

1278
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: wrote for the l A timesh and he was saying

1279
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: that this was gonna be the last time that he

1280
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: ever wrote about me. Okay, so we just at that

1281
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: one he talked about being a junkie ass freeway boy,

1282
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: and that's what they felt about us because our cars

1283
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: was raggedy, they smoked, they shook. You know what I'm

1284
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: saying THEE So I understand totally what you're saying about

1285
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: somebody giving you a name. So how how do you

1286
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: think you and Ross could have avoided? We would have

1287
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: both been huge right now. I mean I would have

1288
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: gave him the freedom. He would have never got in

1289
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: toy with the g D s. If he'd been messing

1290
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: with me, Him and the g D problem never would

1291
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: have happened because I would have been able to handle

1292
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: that right off the rip. You know, I would have

1293
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 1: took care of it. Larry who was Larry Who? Okay?

1294
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: I would have knew how to to navigate to those situations.

1295
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean I had ideas one when we talked the

1296
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: first time we talked, he was gonna do a show.

1297
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: I said, listen, man, let me give you a tip.

1298
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: Look what you do. You get ready to do your show?

1299
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: The next show you do, let me call in let

1300
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: him here. This is before most people ever heard the

1301
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: federal president. This is a call from a federal correctional institution.

1302
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: This is Ricky Ross. I said, listen, if you do

1303
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: that on the phone, you take my call, you let

1304
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: the whole audience here you talking to me, they don't

1305
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: love you. Ah. And he didn't get it. He didn't

1306
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: understand how much more that would have solidified his authenticity

1307
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: of of be somebody from the hood, you know. And

1308
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: and it was tips like that that I had for

1309
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: me and him that we could have did. But like

1310
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: I said, he didn't really understand. I think he was

1311
01:12:55,200 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: more concerned with me discrediting his credibility. You know, if

1312
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: it's a real Rick Ross, then why are you Rick Ross?

1313
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: You know? And I think that his people started to

1314
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 1: put that in his ear that he couldn't align himself

1315
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: with me. It would be impossible for him to align

1316
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: itself with me because then it would discredit But this

1317
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: is a real Noriega and I always show love to

1318
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: the Noriega family. But see, you can think for yourself.

1319
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: You you know who you are, what you stand for.

1320
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: When you don't really understand that. It's like me, if

1321
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: I didn't know who I was, I wouldn't be walking

1322
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: the street right now like I'm doing a movie right now.

1323
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: So that we got to eleven million in the bank.

1324
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, we're gonna start shooting hope. We

1325
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: felt well, we got the script doctor. So working with

1326
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: the script doctor, we we were doing the script right now,

1327
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of everything up and everything tight. So me and

1328
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: he was talking another day, I said, I see men,

1329
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: cous Man, we gotta do another movie right now, as

1330
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 1: soon as this movie is done, we gotta do another

1331
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: movie with me making all the wrong choices, Like every

1332
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: time one of little homies wanted to kill them, my fucker,

1333
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: I said, go ahead, he put the trigger. Bam. How

1334
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: would my life had been so much different if I

1335
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: couldn't be strong enough to where these dudes get into

1336
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: it that I don't had a power to say, hold up, man,

1337
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: don't pull that trigger. Don't you shoot him, get him

1338
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: a path, they didn't walk away. It would have been

1339
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: a whole lot of difference. But some people don't have

1340
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: the power or the strength to say don't do it.

1341
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 1: They're more worried about or they're gonna look at me

1342
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: like I'm soft if you don't do it. But me,

1343
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: what I did is I was like, okay, you kill him. Okay.

1344
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: In the movie, this is what this movie is gonna be.

1345
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: But this is what I actually tell my guy. I

1346
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: don't want abode like whoa hold on? This is this

1347
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: is what I should tell my guy. Right, I said,

1348
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna kill him. I don't kill him.

1349
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: That three hundred thousand old. You think we're gonna get

1350
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: that back when you kill him? Any chance of us

1351
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: getting that back ain't no chance. Okay, that's cool. We

1352
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: don't get the money back, but we're probably gonna get

1353
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: it back Noway what the police start the investigation. Okay,

1354
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 1: they arrestless. They ain't really got the evidence, and the

1355
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: arrest as all right, we all go to jail. We

1356
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: got a bet out how much that's gonna cost us?

1357
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: How much you haven't FENSI to charge every time you

1358
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: do a case hollars everybody that he touched You know,

1359
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: he don't touch you if you you don't talking about

1360
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: thirty I see. So it's six of us. So you

1361
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: know we're talking about three hundred thousand. So we already

1362
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: don't blew that three hundred already we were don't we're don't.

1363
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: We're don'ta chunk that three hundred at three don't not

1364
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: turning to nine. So I was able to take my

1365
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: guys and explain to him that you don't throw good

1366
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: money at the bad money. Sometimes you gotta walk away

1367
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, that was my bad. You

1368
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: know I should have knew. I have a model that

1369
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: did I go by is that I don't give people

1370
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: something I can't afford to give them. If I give

1371
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: it to you, I can afford to lose it. To

1372
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: lose it meaning to give it alone for a hundred

1373
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: thousands if you don't pay you back. And you know

1374
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: that's that was all good. But what's the difference between

1375
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: like Freeway taking the name, Rick Ross taking a name

1376
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: between them both they got both of you. You know

1377
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: they're not the only ones. We got Rich out of

1378
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: out of Kansas City, free Rich. Remember you ain't never

1379
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: heard of rich. I told that one went over my head.

1380
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: Richard Rich is hard like Kansas City. St. Louis the

1381
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 1: Bay Area. I think, I think, I think hard hard

1382
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: to Kansas City. He set it out for. But but

1383
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: but that's a different freeway. They said it out for you.

1384
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: You know, they show you even though none of them

1385
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: gave me no money. But none of them ain't gave

1386
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: me no money. But you know, nobody came and say,

1387
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna through a show for you.

1388
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: You know you you want motherfucker. You know what I'm saying.

1389
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: I love you to death. You know I got your

1390
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: name tacked on my hand. That's how much I love you.

1391
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: None of them didn't do that. But at least when

1392
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: I come to town, they come out, We sit down,

1393
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: we talked. You know what I'm saying, It's like we

1394
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: got a relationship with with old boy, he deliberately lied

1395
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: to me about us and building a relationship. I was

1396
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: more concerned about us building a relationship than than than

1397
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: some money. So I knew him. I knew when they

1398
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: bust some doors. When they bust some doors, I said,

1399
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 1: if anybody out they got money, I'm gonna get some

1400
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: of it. And no way, y'all gonna have no money

1401
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: and I don't get none of it. But do you

1402
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: think that's why he was kind of scared? Maybe maybe

1403
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: the one point you said is uh, like you said,

1404
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: it's the real Rick Ross, But you think it was

1405
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: kind of scared that if if it's kind of scared

1406
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: of a lawsuit or a storation type of we did

1407
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: we did do it. Lawsuit. Yeah, and I'm sure he

1408
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: was right to the lawsuit. He's probably probably thought about,

1409
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: you know, this guy's a big drug you know, um

1410
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: because you know they getting short exactly, Yeah, exactly. There's

1411
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: a lot of games. But I've never been with this

1412
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: story man, you know. But but you can see how

1413
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: he can miss construe that though, can you see. I'm

1414
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: just I'm just trying to do good. But but you're

1415
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: still supposed to know who you're dealing with exactly. And

1416
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: that's what that's what really fucked me up about the

1417
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: whole game right now, with all these motherfucker's with money,

1418
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: all of them, they got money. Right now, I don't

1419
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: respect him, don't give a funking and and anything. I'm

1420
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: gonna hater, but they don't understand the mind, you know,

1421
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: even with Florida. You know, Floyd picked me up from

1422
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: the halfway house, and all I wanted from Ford was

1423
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: me around the game because I know if they put

1424
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: me around the game, I'm gonna figure the motherfucker out.

1425
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't care what game it is. You put me

1426
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 1: in jail, I'm gonna know how to read, I'm gonna

1427
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: learn how to do the law. Who I was doing

1428
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: other people about how I got dudes out of prison.

1429
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't got him bail. When the lawyer said you

1430
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: ain't getting no bill, I showed him how to do bill.

1431
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: I showed him how to go. Oh, look at this

1432
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: here the judge. The judge only got two ways that

1433
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: he can depart from the guidelines. Well, we were seeing

1434
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: the point cooperate with the government. A post conviction real delictation.

1435
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: So if you go to a a class, you start

1436
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 1: taking drug classes before you go to court, before you

1437
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: get convicted, they're gonna change that is post conviction real abilitation.

1438
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: Now to judge, he give you any monet of time

1439
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: to you. I just get somebody the game. The other

1440
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: day they called me crying. Oh my niece he feeling

1441
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: go to tail. I said, why you didn't call me

1442
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: when she first got arrested. I said, you, my girl,

1443
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: I would have gave you this ship for free. I said,

1444
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: look when she got to go get they do this,

1445
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: do that, do that? Now the judge is gonna be

1446
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: able to part from the guideline. And if you don't

1447
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: study the law, if you ain't in tune, you ain't

1448
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: gonna know this. But that was my game. When I

1449
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: got in Tune, I knew how to get bailed. I

1450
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: knew how that I couldn't get myself out was my

1451
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: case was so enormous, you know, like it was guys

1452
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: in there that were so cold, but they couldn't get

1453
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: their self out because the case was so horrendous. You

1454
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They killed three or four motherfucker's

1455
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna let you out. But no matter

1456
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: how smart you get in all, you're not getting out.

1457
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: But they knew how to do the law. And that's

1458
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: what I had did when I was in there. I

1459
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: had studied. Basically, what I did is I started studying

1460
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: the law the way I sold dope. I loved it.

1461
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: Love love selling dope. When I sold dope, I loved it.

1462
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 1: I was winning to die for it. I was willing

1463
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: to kill for it. I mean when it was a

1464
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: time that they was like, oh man, will uh, they're

1465
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: talking about they're gonna kidnap you. I said, just there

1466
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: was a word on the street, you know. I mean,

1467
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 1: you know I'm running around with two three I'm run

1468
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: around with two three million in Deffel bags. I got

1469
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: two three dudes, can my deffle bags with honey in it.

1470
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: So the word is out of there. They're gonna kidnap me.

1471
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: So I put on my bulletproof vest. I put my

1472
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 1: pists on my pocket and let's do it. You know.

1473
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be a quipped, you know what I'm

1474
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: saying at this time. Mothers ain't wearing bulletpool vest at

1475
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: this time. This is like early in the game. You know,

1476
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: we go get the bulletproof vest that that the forty

1477
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: five bullets won't go through. Because I'm always trying to

1478
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: be up on the latest and the greatest. I got

1479
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: no crud have been home, you know. But man, he

1480
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: was telling about how you invest in big coin. I

1481
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: was like, fu' not for some people. It's still a

1482
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: long term investment for some people. At words, we gotta

1483
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: cut them, Okay, we gotta, yeah, we gotta. You need back.

1484
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: You already know we're back at Drake Chaps, and listen

1485
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: right now we have the King Cocaine and we have

1486
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: the the son of the Queen of Cocaine. This is crazy, Mike,

1487
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: what's going on? Brother Selda ain't gonna show out right now.

1488
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: It's a matter how two episodes in um Um two episodes,

1489
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: and I believe and that's that's the clothing line. You're buncle.

1490
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: So I'm telling how it is growing up in the

1491
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: house of how is it going growing up Blanco uncle?

1492
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: I think freaking vosh Fred. I mean a lot of

1493
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: people want to throw you know, a little bizzas on

1494
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: the things and over exaggerate. But when he came down

1495
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: tune it. Let's say the Sopranos, it was the Blanco house.

1496
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: You know, it was business on the street. But no

1497
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: guns at the table. Don't say nothing crazy in front

1498
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: of the kid. Bodyguards say there they come, eat with us,

1499
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: but no guns at the table. And mama was a

1500
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: strip one. Yeah, sent you to school everything. Yeah, it's

1501
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: not like you know, it's like people like, you know,

1502
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: like waking up and Mom's like, hey good. I mean

1503
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: in my later years as I got older, you know,

1504
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: they had to do little things, but they never when

1505
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: my mother put me in arm's way, the baby right right. Yeah.

1506
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: Did you ever think of that that some of your

1507
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: babies will grow up like and eventually lived like lifestyle? Yeah? Yeah,

1508
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: you know I had two sons that were really three

1509
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: that that took the gangster lifestyle. Definitely. Yeah, yeah, I got.

1510
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: I got three sons have been to jail. They go hard.

1511
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was just with one

1512
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: of his sons. Yeah, yeah, he was just with one

1513
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: of my sons who just got out of prison. A

1514
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Yeah, I didn't even know that. And

1515
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: you know I knew of his mom in there was

1516
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 1: any like cross well you know, uh the niggarackas you

1517
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: should talk about her. Yeah, Mama Coca, and she knew

1518
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: of him, and they knew the same people, so they

1519
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: probably sold the way to the same people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1520
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: we we I'm sure that that my guys was getting

1521
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: it from her at times. I say that they definitely talked.

1522
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 1: I mean, you know they was getting it from uh

1523
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: the brothers Escobar and his mom. You ever seen a

1524
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: little trouble ball brothers. Of course, my brother Cheeki Blancle

1525
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: was the prodigy of Pablo ands with Choice and he

1526
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: was the baby. He was there prodigy. When he jumped

1527
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: out of doing his seven years in the FEDS, he

1528
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: stayed at their house week and a half later, sent

1529
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: four hundred. I heard you saying the reality show that

1530
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: you'll never go back to Columbia as much as I

1531
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: would love to see loved ones and everything. I can't.

1532
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: I got an asylum in this country. But you gotta

1533
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 1: what an asylum. It's called the Convention against Torture. Oh,

1534
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that. You can't, I can't.

1535
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: You can't visit because of that? Yeah, well, I mean

1536
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: because of that and because I choose not to, I

1537
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: gave up that life, you know, And I mean to me,

1538
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: that's what made the show even more real. I was

1539
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: watching with my girl that part, and I was like,

1540
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: this is where I think this is not a regular

1541
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: reality show, because Doc, if you would have gone there,

1542
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 1: I would have been like, it shows how real it

1543
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: is because it's still fresh. Well you know me, you

1544
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: know what this is. This is kind of recent in

1545
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: real time. Your mother passed away, not that long ago, assassinated,

1546
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: and my brothers were my brothers were Sassinday nineties, two

1547
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: thousand and one, even go to be God bless man.

1548
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. When I watched Cocaine Cowboys the

1549
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: same way I watched Um, you know um roll Ship,

1550
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: It's like, um, the level of that lifestyle, I just

1551
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: I just couldn't see that, Like, you know what, I'm

1552
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: saying like obviously I sold drugs, but I've never was

1553
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: on y'all level, like that level at all, but like, um,

1554
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: that that level of like like I heard, I heard

1555
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: you say that you if a person stole from you,

1556
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: you just wouldn't work with them. Yeah, yeah, it was.

1557
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: It was. It was cheaper for me not to work

1558
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 1: with him. I mean to kill them or to to

1559
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 1: to use my powers. I mean, you gotta be careful

1560
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: because you become a bully. But you can start bullying

1561
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: people around. You know, you got it easier to become

1562
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: a bully. It is easy. I mean, you got you got.

1563
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: At one time, I had like all of the shot

1564
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: callers damn near in l A, all the black shot

1565
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: callers a under one card, you know, like for the

1566
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: people that who was like the one of the founders

1567
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: Great Street, like a hunch. I need you. I can

1568
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: call big you a big cal from the sixties, you know,

1569
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: putting t rodgers from the Blood. These were all like

1570
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: my dudes, you know what I'm saying, Like right now

1571
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: we still like like this here, if they got it,

1572
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I can get it, you know. Uh So when when

1573
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: when you're in that position, you have to be really

1574
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: particular about what your what your decisions are. Your mom's

1575
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: was like the exact opposite if she she got a

1576
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:40,440
Speaker 1: hat missing, according to the documentary. I watched that documentary

1577
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: like my mother had the same and she told me

1578
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: this when I was a kid, that it doesn't matter

1579
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: if it's a hundred dollars or a hundred thousand dollars,

1580
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: it's the principle. So yeah, I've heard little stories that work.

1581
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Whoa I owe is you like when when she was

1582
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: like like a like mother say that I was turning

1583
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: seven years old, my brother's turned My brothers were all

1584
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: arrested and died when I was seven for the biggest

1585
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: money launching case in California state history. My brother was

1586
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: nineteen years old. He was worth a hundred million dollars already.

1587
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 1: He was where he was a charts prodigy. Nos Cheeky Blanco.

1588
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: Cheeky Blanco handle the Bay Area, Beverly Hills a lot.

1589
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: They dealt with a lot of uh. I would say.

1590
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: My brother Cheeko was the first Columbian to deal with

1591
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: the Afro Americans on the East Coast. And my mother

1592
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 1: was the Queen of queens. You know that Jackson crazy

1593
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: and we did something cool the hell over there. I

1594
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: mean we used to go out town and there's uh,

1595
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, a process so crazy even that your mom's

1596
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: moved over there. It was I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So

1597
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: all right, So because what made you dude? The reality?

1598
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: So what does this is? Well, you know, I've been

1599
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: in the business for a minute when I met you, gentlemen.

1600
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: Thank you to see you guys do what you've done.

1601
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: I congratulate you. Ten years ago, you guys gave me

1602
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: my first interview. So what made you do the reality?

1603
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 1: I started getting into the business back then. I would

1604
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: see if anyone my partner Magic was in the music business,

1605
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: what it helped me get into the business. John Gardi,

1606
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: Buggy segu you know they did it back then. I

1607
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: saw we grew up on hip hop. We grew up

1608
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: on you you know, you know what, We grew up

1609
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: on some mob ship of these guys becoming metamorphosizing into

1610
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 1: these legal entities jay Z Damon Dash. So when you

1611
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: grow up in that area and you see, damn these

1612
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: boys talking about the dope that ross. So these boys

1613
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: talking about my mom and Pablo, but they look like

1614
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: dope dealers. Damn, I live that lifestyle. Yeah, if they

1615
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: don't gotta worry about the jack boys, the criminals, FBI,

1616
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: d A damn. I want to be just like jay Z.

1617
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: I want to be like that guy right now. You

1618
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: see you see what he talks about Rick Ross? Right man?

1619
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Uh see how he felt? Right now? There's actually because

1620
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: out the records O tons name it. No, there's an

1621
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:09,560
Speaker 1: actually records label called yeah records get Betty? What is it?

1622
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: Betty blocks? West side Gun? What's your Who was Conway? Right?

1623
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: I heard that stuff that he felt like. I wouldn't Okay,

1624
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: you knew me before and I was a criminal, and

1625
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: you knew me when. I would have took a different route.

1626
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 1: But I would have expect it with this gentleman, a legend.

1627
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm not a legend. I'm coming to be, but I'm

1628
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: from the streets, so I would have loved and appreciate it. Yo, Mike,

1629
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: can I wrap with you? Can I hang what you can?

1630
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: Can we probably think about this? Yeah? Can I get

1631
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 1: my buddy and his approach? His approach? He said, he

1632
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: said he reached out, He reached out. They spoke and

1633
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: he said that he felt like the lines was, how

1634
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: would you go about that? He should have never had

1635
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: to reach out. They should have reached out to him.

1636
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: That's how you spell me. Yeah, so you need to

1637
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 1: expect that. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it, Jim, because that's

1638
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I mean, next we'll talk. I mean,

1639
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: if honestly, I think somebody did something to me, somebody

1640
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: did be a favorite, and somebody did me a favorite,

1641
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna reach out and in paying back, you know

1642
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, as soon as I get a chance.

1643
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: You know, we we don't take from the will to

1644
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: never put back, you know, otherwise pretty soon a well

1645
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: gonna be tried. We gotta always put back. Well, this

1646
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: could be the platform where they reach out to you,

1647
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: and maybe you gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest,

1648
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 1: you know what I think, me knowing like like both

1649
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 1: of you guys, I just feel like the community knowing. Yeah.

1650
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: I know I don't know well enough, but I know

1651
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: him enough to know that. I don't think he meant malice.

1652
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 1: I think I never no, no, no, I think I

1653
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: never said that. Yeah, he loves me to death. Yeah,

1654
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: I think that's us. I think you tattoo a motherfucker

1655
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 1: name on your hands. I love that motherfucker right along.

1656
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at his fist. I saw

1657
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: him in the magazine. He was like this here he

1658
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 1: had my name tattooed on his hand. This motherfucking love

1659
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: with me. I think, I don't think the only thing

1660
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: he probably mad about he can't marry me when he

1661
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: held me, you know what I'm saying. So, because you

1662
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 1: know what, I think, that's how it starts. I think

1663
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: you know what it is, so many black of us

1664
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: we call ourselves Escotball, right, we'll call ourselves Gotti, right,

1665
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: and then we'll call ourselves the Gambino family. And then

1666
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: we realized that the Gambino family even like black people, right,

1667
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: And like you know what I'm saying. So, so this

1668
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: is the first job, this is given both of your brothers.

1669
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: This is the first time people from our culture is

1670
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: actually emulating our own culture. So that that's the one

1671
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: thing that's good about I respect that that's the one

1672
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: thing that's good about it. Praising the black another black bout,

1673
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's the one thing, like,

1674
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: no matter how you feel about it, it's like at

1675
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: least that praise our culture, like because it would be

1676
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:13,799
Speaker 1: hitting that's remember when she said leaving the Federal building,

1677
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 1: the black widow called me miss white, and I heard

1678
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: that something like so I love that. So in the

1679
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: Friend of the Friends, no no, no, no, but I

1680
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 1: understand that. And then no products with that. But let's

1681
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: do something together. If it's really I feel, and it

1682
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: really is that way I feel. I mean, if we're

1683
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna keep it real, we can be like Donald Trump

1684
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: and everything is what it ain't. You know what I'm saying.

1685
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: What he said it is, it's what it is, and

1686
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 1: what it said it ain't. It ain't me me and

1687
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: people outside looking at I could tell that he he

1688
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: wanted to do the right thing, but I felt like

1689
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 1: he got he got railroaded. It's it's like this, it's

1690
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: just like this. You know what I did when I

1691
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: reached out to noriegas fact, I just didn't even know

1692
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: you reached out actually did because I actually wanted them

1693
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: in the video, I don't even get Remember he was

1694
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: do he wasn't killing I wasn't I wasn't get permission.

1695
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: I was trying everything I can do. We shot the woman,

1696
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 1: but I think wasn't let him know, like, yeah, I'm

1697
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 1: not tarnishing your name. It was the room and I

1698
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: never spelled to the same you know, his his name

1699
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: is spelled r E I E A G E E

1700
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: E I E. So I wanted them to know, and

1701
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: I wanted, you know, like whatever, like if I can

1702
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: help out, you know what I'm saying, something like, because

1703
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 1: I wanted to know I'm not trying to tarnish your name,

1704
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: and in fact, I'm actually keeping your name alive no doubt.

1705
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: And I recognized that I recognize what he's done for

1706
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: my name. But at the same time, I wanted to

1707
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: exercise to power, right, you know what I'm saying, And

1708
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: he could have allowed me to exercise that power quicker.

1709
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to exercise my power. They're gonna fill

1710
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: me in another couple of months. They're going to know

1711
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: that this mone is the same mind that that that

1712
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: took a hundred and twenty five dollars and my partner

1713
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: had a hundred twenty five and we build a three

1714
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: million dollars every now and then empire, but a million

1715
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 1: dollars every single day. I'm getting ready to implement that again.

1716
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: But he could have escalated that. I could have been

1717
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: doing that six years ago in a perfect world. What

1718
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: what what would you in a perfect world? Right? You

1719
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 1: came home, he gave me a job, said, come on, man,

1720
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna go talk to your p O. I'm gonna

1721
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: tell your PO that you're canna be working with me

1722
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,560
Speaker 1: domin legit. I ain't got no criminal record, because you

1723
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 1: don't even have no criminal I interviewed him for the lawsuit.

1724
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: I am him downtown and they say, oh, you've ever

1725
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 1: been to jail and he was like, oh yeah, yeah,

1726
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,480
Speaker 1: well what did you go to jail? Four? A marijuana

1727
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 1: one time? So he had a clean record. My PO

1728
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: would have let me round with him. You know what

1729
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It wouldn't have been like, oh, we don't

1730
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: want name with him. But now, now, just being DEVI advocate,

1731
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 1: what if he was like the position that he could

1732
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: have offered you was something that he would have thought

1733
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: was beneath He made me thought I didn't handle position

1734
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: that was beneath me. You know what I told myself

1735
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: when I was getting out. True. But listen, I'm gonna

1736
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: be honest. I'ma be honest. Let me just let me

1737
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: just let me just go to I would tell you,

1738
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: and then you know why, you know this is why

1739
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people are sometimes be scared to do

1740
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 1: something for the street guy because they don't want to

1741
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: offer him a position where you're kind of like a

1742
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 1: soldier when you when you were boss. And so that's

1743
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 1: why a lot of the street guys can't converts, because

1744
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: the person that's trying to put them on knows that

1745
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: or feels that these guys more of a wolf than that.

1746
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: But the I'm gonna have to stop. Stop. You know,

1747
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: you don't get your research on me. Yes, you know

1748
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 1: how I carry it? Even what if he did, but

1749
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 1: he was supposed to know me. He had studied me.

1750
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: Rest that he had studied me, all right, he used

1751
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: my my sayings in in in in music, so he

1752
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: knew who I was. Yeah. But but but in all

1753
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 1: due respect, you could have still been a killer. You

1754
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: could have still been a killer. He's just nor he

1755
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:10,879
Speaker 1: had researched nor. He had researched me. He read my cases,

1756
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: he read my cases, he read all the articles, he

1757
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 1: watched all the dollar documentaries, and he knew about me

1758
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: before everybody else did. No, I agree, I agree, But

1759
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 1: what if what if you know the person who's not

1760
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 1: used to dealing with a person of that caliber. Is

1761
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: he just made the wrong move where we know he

1762
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 1: we know he had never dealt with the street dudes.

1763
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: You know, I know, I know he had credit cards

1764
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 1: in high school. A lot of people don't know that.

1765
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: You know, most of us ain't never seen no credit

1766
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: I've seen I just started getting credit cards two or

1767
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 1: three years ago. But he had credit cards in high school.

1768
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 1: So he definitely didn't know about the streets. You know,

1769
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 1: but he should have had enough sense to say, I

1770
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: studied this dude. I know this dude's background. I knew

1771
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: that this dude ain't gonna extort me. This dude don't

1772
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: extort people. He not in the extorting. He into making money,

1773
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 1: He's into making moves. He's a thinker, he's a shaker,

1774
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: he's a mover. That's what he was supposed to see.

1775
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: And for him not seeing that, he swept on the game.

1776
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: I agree, but I guess I can. I agree with

1777
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: you just one million percentage, so you know I agree.

1778
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 1: I agree that everybody should pay homage to the people

1779
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: that come form, especially if if you take any part

1780
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: of their life, if I take any if I started

1781
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: naming myself fucking Supreme, I should be calling you know,

1782
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: to to to to job rules, was calling the earth

1783
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: guy that should be making sure that I noticed that.

1784
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: I took that part of it like the first person

1785
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: they ever met, a supreme You gotta do that one

1786
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 1: million percent. But then certain people just don't know how

1787
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: to approach things like no, I agree, and I said,

1788
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: sensirely believe that if you guys were to have a

1789
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: little conversation, I kid you not because like like me,

1790
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: like it's a sensible guy. I'm just trying to. I

1791
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: ain't got no problem with too. I would love no

1792
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 1: problem with I don't need his money. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1793
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I would love to. I'm cracking now. You know. I'm

1794
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: fixed the beef T jay Z and Fat Joe. You

1795
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Come on, let's have another one

1796
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: with both, y'all. I'm good. I'm a good beat squash

1797
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: because you know, but it ain't no beat, dope. You

1798
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 1: don't know what I mean, don't be misunderstand it. Ain't

1799
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: even have a misunderstanding. I mean, it just ain't nothing.

1800
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: You know, we don't. I'm sure they can figure it out.

1801
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 1: Miami boys break bread just like sure you could break

1802
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:32,759
Speaker 1: a little like just like just like let's I always

1803
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,799
Speaker 1: imagine that when I heard myself up records and they

1804
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 1: lit right now, they fired up, seen the videos. It's good.

1805
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,560
Speaker 1: My own boy went through the stores. Ship, you know that.

1806
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: I just came from that. I thought, But what happened,

1807
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 1: What happens back in your day? What happens If that's

1808
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 1: what they think you reach, They saying, well, we don't

1809
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: got no breder for you, but we gotta perspect. Man. Listen,

1810
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you I'm filthy, filthy, rich and

1811
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: as that. But I'm comfortable, you know, and I work

1812
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 1: hard for my money. I'm gonna keep it real. Motherfucker

1813
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: went broke because the federal guvernment took every motherfucking dollar

1814
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 1: I had. So now I'm rebuilding my ship. What we

1815
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,879
Speaker 1: do and what my generation, my generations after his generation,

1816
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: we learned from watching him. We learned from watching him.

1817
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: Are we're changing the game. When you're dealing in a

1818
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: corporate status and you're here moving in the room full

1819
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: of vultures, but all these vultures have suits. You learned

1820
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: a lot, and what you learned is to be a

1821
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 1: corporate mind. I'm not gonna lean on the niggas why

1822
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: you know I'm not gonna lean on them because I can't.

1823
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: Why because he taught us not to go back to jail, right,

1824
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 1: you know what extortion is what I used to run

1825
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 1: my record label, like, so I ain't doing that again.

1826
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Like my daughter said, I'm legit forever. So why would

1827
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: I even approach these gentlemen talk to them the wrong way?

1828
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: What happens if you was to reach out and you

1829
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 1: felt like it was like like sometimes I'm gonna be

1830
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 1: straight over you don't want some bread, I'm trying to

1831
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: like Sue or something like No, not that if I would,

1832
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean I can't. There's no grounds for it. So

1833
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: I've already had that question. That's that's a real last name.

1834
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 1: That's a real name, right, Yeah, I know they have

1835
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: their their complete legit, and kudos to them. Get your money.

1836
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: I have no hate for people getting you have anc

1837
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: But if that's your life. No. I owned the power

1838
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 1: of attorney for myself and the Blanco last name, but

1839
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: before my mother passed away, I wanted to vote her

1840
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: life attorney. So what happens if you want to make

1841
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: something cocaz Elda you have that? Yeah, I mean, you

1842
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: can't challenge my states. It's my favor. Can't challenge my

1843
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: you know that's that's that would be honest. Both of

1844
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 1: you brothers. Take you off for showing up because you

1845
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 1: know what the crazy ship is. Now what happens is

1846
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 1: you know someone because I'm gonna do the same thing

1847
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 1: to be so I'm gonna take Nori. But the first

1848
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: time you ever heard slime in the music business, that's me.

1849
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: And now you hear that, you copy right that ship.

1850
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: I ain't feeling reason to copyright that ship. We was

1851
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: using it as a joke. My boy, my boy. He

1852
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: was saying, Yo, he's gonna go to get a pepper

1853
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 1: dime sandwich. I said, pepper din, I said that sound

1854
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: like pepper Brody. I don't want that ship. Nigger came back.

1855
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: It was a turkey and chas I said, they I

1856
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 1: don't eat turkey, don't eat palk. I said, well, let

1857
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: me get a piece. He said, nigga, you slime. That's it.

1858
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:10,719
Speaker 1: That's how the language all this ship, these things they

1859
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: a criminate to blood language and then Clinican this this game. Listen,

1860
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: that's bullshit. She was made up on the last There

1861
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: ain't street of medicine. Pepper died Turkey and cheap sandwich,

1862
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 1: real ship. So I feel I've been the victim. They

1863
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: took jump off from me, and they took hate rade

1864
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 1: for me. Here's a whole words of me. Then I

1865
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 1: take my name and take but this is the same

1866
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: as action. So I feel you brothers, my brother, Yo,

1867
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 1: Rick ross Man, We've been trying to get get you

1868
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 1: here forever. Man, you're a real legend. We've been trying

1869
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: to hit each other. Yeah, yes, yes, man, And you

1870
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Speaker 1: know what. You know that that's how that's how the

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01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: Lord works. On your birthday, you got a chance to

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01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: sit down with us and salute to have a couple

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Speaker 1: of Man, Yo, let me just tell you something that

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01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: he said, brother, what load all legends overhead man, and

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01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: you are a pure, certified legend. I love your story.

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01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,640
Speaker 1: I love the fact that so many people let me

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01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: just tell you about you. So many people would have

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01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: folded and said, you know what, I'm going home, I'm

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01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: going under under the cracks, and not have told your story.

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01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: So many people are scared is speaking about the c

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Speaker 1: I So many people are scared of speak about the

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Speaker 1: conscious and all that. The fact that you're in the

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Speaker 1: front line and just letting people know, Look, this is

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Speaker 1: my life. This is real. This ain't no, this ain't

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01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 1: no motherfuckering made up story. This is real life. And

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Speaker 1: that's that's real. Shift. I salute you, I commend you,

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Speaker 1: and I want to say that you know everyone shs

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01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: to salute you and commend you mad because you've been

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01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: through it. Said he introduced us years ago. Our X

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01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: brought me by your way. He's the one that brought

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Speaker 1: me by. That's my little guy. Remember tennis balls from

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Speaker 1: Trust Everything and you you know your mother is a legend.

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Speaker 1: Um you're soon to be legend. I love what you're

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01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: doing on the street. Three episodes Tomorrow Monday, Tomorrow Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Give up company to giving me some company. Man, So listen, man,

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Speaker 1: I think both of your brothers we're coming through. Man.

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Speaker 1: Get a couple of drops, streak check the entire the room,

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Speaker 1: bum with Get him as the t