1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Welcome Cash Hotel to Battleground. This is my podcast and 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: we've been doing it for about like a month now 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and we're basically doing this show from Seapac, which is 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: an amazing thing, and I have an amazing guest Cash Hotel. 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: You've done so much, oh man. So we were talking 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: over by the war Room, Yeah, war Room group, which 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: has just been a madhouse. Like, so, reading a lot 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: about you, trying to get a sense of the direction 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: I wanted to take the interview, but what jumped out 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: met me the most was you're an ice hockey guy. 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: I've been playing ice hockey like my entire life, and 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: so like I want to start there, Like when did 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: you get interested in the sport? 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody ever asked me that. So my 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: parents were Indian my background, but my parents were border 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: raising Eas Africa. My dad was a huge field hockey 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: player in Uganda and Idiomin came to power in the seventies. 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: It was a dictator, literally genocide. He had to flee, 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: so you know where he went, Toronto and he had 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: never left East Africa before. He's sitting in Toronto, never 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: experienced the winter, trying to figure out what to watch 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: and what to do, and of course you're in Toronto 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties, it's like ice hockey. Yeah. 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: And then long story short, he had me, he met 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: my mom, got married, moved down to New York, started 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: a family, and then he was just like, Okay, I 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: don't know what to do here. I'm an immigrant and 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: it seems like a big part of the community of sports. 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: So you're going to skate And that was it. 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: So your dad went from playing field hockey in Uganda 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: in Africa moved to Toronto. Did he himself jump make 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: the transition to the ice or did he just I. 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Think he just took a shine to the sport. He 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is actually pretty cool stuff. 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: So when did you start playing? 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: I started skating before I could walk. My dad was 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: just like, we're just going. And the cool part about 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: is my dad waited in line in Canada to emigrate 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: here lawfully, didn't you know back in those days you 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: could just jump Yeah, And he was like no. He 41 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 2: spent three winners up there making furniture just to get 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: the family set up to move down here. So I 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: think he'd always had that spirit in him about Okay, 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: the American dreams for us, but the family needs to 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: be American. 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what do we do? 47 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: We play sports? I mean that was it? 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: What an amazing journey that you had, Like, yeah, which 49 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: is I also just think it's fascinating that hockey is 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: a central part of that bio, especially in the early play. 51 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: You still play coached for six years? How do you coach? 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: You? 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: What leagues are you coaching? 54 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: I used to coach Tier one, Triple A, I coached 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: high school travel. You know, I just love it. Yeah, 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: so I could if I could do anything, I'd quit, 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: move to like you know, Northern Minnesota and coach college 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: hockey and be the happiest person on earth. 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: This is so crazy to me because like I played 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: hockey my entire life as well, and I'm a huge 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm in from Pittsburgh. Like I got into hockey like 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: probably in sixth grade, like in the early nineteen nineties. 63 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: We're Lemieux and Yarma Yoger and and yeah, like we 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: won two Stanley Cups in a row. Started and you know, 65 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: I started playing when I was twelve, but then you know, 66 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: and I the sport just captivated me and I played 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: everything I played. I'd wrestled before that, played baseball before that, 68 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: played a lot of different sports. But I got into 69 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: hockey and it just changed my life. And now my 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: son's play like, oh that's cool. Yeah, yeah, So the 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: craziest thing in the world, cash is that, like I like, 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm going back to the rinks that I came up 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: in and they're starting in their inn house leagues there. 74 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: So it's just crazy to me. 75 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: It was the one constant I'll say this one last 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: thing about hockey was the one on Sunday nights when 77 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: I was at the White House finally and Sunday nights 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: of roll around and the President would try to find 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: me vice. Sir. I am on call every day, including 80 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: Sundays except the very late evening where Sundays are for 81 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: godha and beer, and I will resurface back on very 82 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: early Monday morning. It was but it kept your sanity. 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: Was just you're out, you know, and and people might 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: think it's like a funny joke or why do you 85 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: do that, but you understand it. It keeps you able 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: to do the mission that you needed to do at work. 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, day, well in your in your mission at work, 88 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: Like did you ever think that you would go from this, 89 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: like your father playing field hockey in Uganda, Toronto, America, 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously law school, then working in Donald Trump's 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: White House, and like you're his guy, he goes, I mean, 92 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I've talked to President Trump, like he's 93 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: called me before, I had meetings with him. But you've 94 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: clearly had his ear during his four years in the 95 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: White House, and I think you've been able to expose 96 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: some elements of them, maybe not some, but elements of 97 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the administrative state that before he was president. I never 98 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: people didn't I never really thought existed. And so you 99 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: look at all of the things that the FBI is 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: doing now or did with Twitter, with the and it 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: was exposed with the Twitter files and things like that, 102 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: like what did how did you react to all of 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: that cash like when you cause you're like, could you 104 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: see very clearly what was happening in the moment, because 105 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: when you're living through that stuff, there's always a cloud 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: around you and you're trying to figure it out, or 107 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: did you know that there are elements of the administrative 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: state that were clearly weaponized against you? 109 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: You know, I always I actually always say I wish 110 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: we weren't talking about a deep state or an administrative state, 111 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: because then it wouldn't have to be something we have 112 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: to prove to the world exists and is doing the 113 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: exact opposite of what American service is about. And so 114 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: I was a terrorism prosecutor back at DOJ, and Comey 115 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: was the FBI director, McKay was his number two. And 116 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: Benghazi happened, and I said, and I was one of 117 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: the lead DOJ prosecutes on Benghazi, And they said, guys, 118 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: I thought, we prosecute based on facts, not on will 119 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: or intuition. I want to prosecute all the terrorists involved 120 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: for killing four Americans overseas. But if I can't make 121 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: this case, what am I going to tell a jury? 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: And that became my first experience with the politicization of 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: a prosecution and a failure to actually go out and 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: capture most of the real terrorists that committed that acts 125 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: because they wanted a mount to hang on the wall 126 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: to say we did the job. My efforts were completely 127 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: you know, look I said it. I said, this is 128 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: my opinion, and this is how I would do the case. 129 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: But there's a chain of commands, so you all, of 130 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: course make decisions. But it was my first experience to 131 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: be like, wait a second, I thought, this is the 132 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: fbon DOJ what is going on here? And so I 133 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: left and I went to run the Russian investigation for 134 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: Chairman Nunez. And you know, it's like best laid plans, 135 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: like I never wanted to go to Congress. I didn't 136 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: even know Devin Nunaz. I didn't even know who the 137 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: guy was. Yeah, and here's a crazy thing. I had 138 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: never met Donald Trump, I'd ever spoken to I didn't 139 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: know who that guy was. I mean I knew who 140 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: he was, we didn't know each other. So I said, Devin, look, 141 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: I don't know you, I don't know him. I want 142 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: to do national security. He's like, run this investigation. I said, 143 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: no problem, I'll make you one deal. Whatever we find out, 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: we put the truth out and he said deal, and 145 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: then we put it out. And that was sort of 146 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: the genesis of I think, you know, I don't want 147 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: to speak for Donald Trump, but I think that's why 148 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 2: we get along so well on the National Security Defense 149 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: Missioning because we put the mission first, and we didn't 150 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: care what the media said. We didn't care what the 151 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: media called us. We didn't care if they said you're lying. 152 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: We knew at the end, like the Luna's Mineral, Russia Gate, 153 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: chasing terrors, bringing American hostages, winding out of Afghanistan. That 154 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: was the Trump doctrine, and he wanted us to get 155 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: it done. And I think that's why you know politics. 156 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you about politics. Yeah, I'm not that guy, 157 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: but I can do that. And you know, you and 158 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: I can talk hockey and we can talk a mission. 159 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you served valiantly for this country and you 160 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: get that. And the amount of people at the Department 161 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: of Defense when I left as chief of staff that 162 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: still call me today and say, we're almost embarrassed to 163 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: put the uniform on these days. 164 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: Gosh. So if you go to law school, you become 165 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: a prosecutor. Your work, you said, you're working with the 166 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: dog or on the DOJ prosecuting terrorists that that conducted 167 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: the Benghazi attack. Did the politicization of our justice system? 168 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Did that shake your faith in the system overall? And 169 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: how has that shaped your perception on the justice system, 170 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: on the administrative state, on the deep state? Moving forward? 171 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: Like where are you right now? 172 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's what caused me to leave the Justice Department, 173 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: I said, there's no internal accountability. If the FBI lies 174 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: to a court or the DOJ prosecutor suppresses evidence, there's 175 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: no internal accountability. And so I said, I can't be 176 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: a part of this anymore. But I didn't expect to 177 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: go over to Devin's staff on House Intel and find 178 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: the biggest criminal conspiracy conducted by the FBI lying to 179 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: a federal court to unlawfully surveil a presidential campaign, being 180 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: in bed with a political arm to do so, and funded. 181 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like talk about third not even 182 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: what is that sixth world? 183 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy the Banana Republic fiction stuff. 184 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: And I was so disappointed that. 185 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: It's like something out of something out of an episode 186 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: of House of Cards, Like that's it. 187 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: It's it's crazy, But it's like the same character as 188 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: Comy McCabe struck the Hillary Clinton email investigation all over again. 189 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: These guys said, what was terrifying? We caught him in Russia. Gee, 190 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: we caught him a little bit on the Hillary email investigation. 191 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: Where else did they do it that we didn't catch 192 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: it exactly? 193 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing that kills me. Cash. Nothing has 194 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: happened to them right now, but like here you find 195 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: yourself on the receiving I'm sure you've been subpoena I'm 196 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: sure you've been this oubject of investigations like here. Because 197 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: you've investigated this corruption, you find yourself on the receiving 198 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: end of attacks in the administrative states. So my question 199 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: is is where do we go from here? Cash? Because 200 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: if you look at like you stand up to the 201 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: administrative state as President of the United States, you're the 202 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: President of the United States. You're the most powerful man 203 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: on the face of the planet. At least that's that's 204 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: what the American people are told. You're the commander in chief, 205 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: chief executive of this country. Yeah, look what happened to 206 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: JFK when he stood up to the administrative state. I mean, 207 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Tucker just did a whole segment on the CIA perhaps 208 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: being involved in the jfk assassination. CIA played a role 209 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: in Watergate with Nixon. Nixon ended up impeached. You look 210 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: at what happened to President Trump. President Trump was impeached 211 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: twice because he stood up to the administrative state. So 212 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: if the present, if the president of the United States, 213 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: by the way, Democrat or Republican, can't stand up to 214 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: the administrative state and disentangle this country from their clutches, 215 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: which sounds like they're like something kind of a TV show, right, 216 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: But where do we go from here as a country? 217 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: How do we get out of this? 218 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: Well, thankfully we slept Donald Trump leading the charge because 219 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that there's another man on Earth or 220 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: in the galaxy that can take the shelling that he 221 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: takes and continue to put the America First mission out there. 222 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: But what we have to do is when we come 223 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: to events like these and do great shows like yours, 224 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: is we have to turn what they call the alternate media. 225 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: We have to turn the mainstream media into the alternate media. 226 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: And I think the way we do that, Yes, I 227 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: want accountability, of course, I want to call me and 228 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: these guys in prison for breaking all these people. 229 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: All these people were contributors on CNN. 230 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: They're all paid over there. And the one advantage I 231 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: think we have thanks to President Trump is he's running 232 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: again and saying, look, I'm not telling you what might work. 233 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: I'm telling you what I did, and it worked. Now 234 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: you got two years of Biden. Look at the stark contrasts. 235 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: All you have to do is a picture of East Palestine, 236 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: Ohio prison Trump handing out water and Joe Biden and 237 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: Poland handing out billions of dollars of American techer fake. 238 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: That's just the starkest contrast. So when people say, oh, 239 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: I want accountability, I'm like, yeah, but we need everyone 240 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: to band together to get it from Congress because we're 241 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: not getting anywhere else. The House. Republicans, I just thought, 242 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Chairman Comer are finally sending out subpoenas or putting witnesses 243 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: in the seat. That's how we're going to get it. 244 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: It's how we got it in Russia Gate. We didn't 245 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: get it from the DOJRFBI, And yeah, we weren't able 246 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: to send people to prison, but we were able to 247 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: change and fire seventeen people. And I think we got 248 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: to do with that times, you know, probably ten or 249 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: one hundred x on these investigations. But if we don't 250 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: get the people here to do it, it doesn't matter. 251 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. So okay, so I got to get your take 252 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: on Ukraine. You mentioned talked about Biden over there. I'll 253 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: give you. Look, I am I'm tired of why people 254 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: call them neo kon Republicans. I call them old guard 255 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: Republicans of the of the I fought these wars for 256 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: twenty years cash and the idea that we have to fight, 257 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: we have to fight to protect our freedom over there, 258 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: to keep the enemy from coming here. Like I, those 259 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: cliches bother me a little bit, And especially when you 260 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: factor in that there's clearly some sort of weird, corrupt, 261 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: incestuous relationship with the Biden family and these Ukrainian old marks, 262 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: and they fire the prosecutor and you get the billion 263 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: dollars type of stuff. How what do you think about you? 264 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Do you have a sense of what the mission is 265 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: in Ukraine? 266 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 2: No? And that's if they were able to outline one, 267 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: then I might be able to say, Okay, I agree 268 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: this and not this part. They don't have a mission. 269 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: The mission is the full on weaponization of the DoD 270 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: and the national security apparatus of our country. So long 271 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: as they get their next headline in the Washington Post 272 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: and say, CNN, when did the Democratic Party become the 273 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: war machine of the United States of America. 274 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: It's been one of the craziest evolutions I've ever seen, 275 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: because you know, way back before I ran for office, 276 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: when I got out of the military, work for a 277 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: policy organization called Concern vets for America, and you know, 278 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: we advocated, you know, for peace through strength in the 279 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: Iraq War, the idea that we shouldn't cut funding for 280 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: our war fighters or bounce the budget on the backs 281 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: to the war fighters. We helped write the Mission Act, 282 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: which President Trump signed in the loss. We did some 283 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: good stuff. But back then the Democrats fought us tooth 284 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: and nail in the House and the Senate on funding 285 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: for our war fighters. They were the anti war party. 286 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, like the roles have 287 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: shifted in the most bizarre way where you have anchors 288 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: from CNN and Democrats putting the Ukrainian flag and their bioye. 289 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: And never mind the fact that you know, the whole 290 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: of our military I don't have to tell you this, 291 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: but just for the viewers, the whole of our military 292 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: over the last two decades, I mean, has evolved to 293 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: fight a counterinsurgency fight was an asymmetric fight with terrorist groups. 294 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: The war in Ukraine has anything but that. It's a 295 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: conventional war that we haven't sufficiently involved our force to fight. Yeah, 296 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: and I'm afraid that not only is there the American 297 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: military not ready for a shooting war in Ukraine. I'm 298 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: worried that the American people don't have a full understanding 299 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: of what that would entail. 300 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't think they do, like you know, you know, 301 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: it's tragic that I say the following. I think Ukraine, 302 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: unfortunately is going to become the next version of Afghanistan. 303 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: But for different reasons. We went into Afghanistan because of 304 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, right, that was one thing that we 305 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: stayed there for twenty years. That's a whole separate argument. 306 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: The Ukraine didn't attack us, Russia didn't attack us, And 307 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm not saying we shouldn't help our allies and friends overseas. 308 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: But my point to the American people is the following. 309 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: What is wrong with putting Americans first? When I have 310 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: fifty five thousand homeless veterans in this country, two dozen 311 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: of which connect suicide a day, I want my money 312 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: in tax dollars to go help them, teachers, first responders, 313 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: school communities. And then if we got leftover, sure, but 314 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: the defense industrial complex, in my opinion, is worse than 315 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: any lobbying organization in the United States of America. They 316 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: have hijacked the purpose of the Department of Defense, politicized it, 317 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: and brought it to the swamp to members of Congress 318 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: from both parties who now say that Ukraine is our 319 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: moral obligation. Now, our moral obligation is to your fellow 320 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: Americans from when you sit in a perch in Washington, DC, 321 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: to make sure that our kids are educated, that our 322 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: borders are safe, that our military is ready to go, 323 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: and not selected based on your gender or some box 324 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: you tick based on the color of your skin. We 325 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: don't have the level of readiness and programmer when you 326 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: were kidnapped. 327 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: It's not even close. It's not even close. Cash and 328 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: you were ground zero in the Department of Defense for 329 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these discussions, right, I mean you were 330 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: a chief of staff or the Secretary of Defense. And 331 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: what in the later years of the Trump presidency, right 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: when you say that the defense lot mean talk about 333 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: defense lobbying and hijacking the mission of the Department of Defense. 334 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: Those those are my words, not yours. But like, what 335 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: what does that look like? Why how have we gotten 336 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: to this point in this country where that is that 337 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: dynamic that you saw and not necessarily a commitment to 338 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: the mission. 339 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to get the quote exactly right, but Eisen, 340 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: that President Eisenhower said brilliantly, however, many decades ago, if 341 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: you let the defense industrial Complex get in bed with 342 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: the monies making institutions of America, Wall Street, the banks, 343 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: and everything, this country will be on a downward trajectory. 344 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: And that's what's happened. They have inserted themselves about the 345 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: monster financial institutions that we have, and all of those 346 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: together collectively elect people to Congress, not everyone, but a 347 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: lot of them, and then they employ dozens, if not hundreds, 348 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: and not thousands of people in their home districts. And 349 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: these congressmen and women have to go back and say, Okay, 350 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: we want this factory to stand up, we need another 351 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: ten billion dollars to make this widget and that widget. 352 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: And I'm not Look, I'm the first guy to tell 353 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: you the Defense Industrial Complex makes invaluable tools and resources 354 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: and training and getting for our warfare operators. But it 355 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: also I'm the guy that tells you I've literally seen 356 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: billions of dollars burn up, and we can't just keep 357 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: expanding the budget of the DoD without having accountability. The 358 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: inspector generals from the DD were just on capital this 359 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: past week and they were asked, Hey, are you guys 360 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: able to track the money? Where's it going? Well, we 361 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: don't know. We can't tell you that it's not being 362 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: used inappropriately. What kind of answer is that it's not 363 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: for one hundred and ten billion dollars? 364 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: Not? Okay? And I mean, you couldn't run a business 365 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: like that, like who you couldn't run your household like that. 366 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: But yet and then you know, you see somebody like 367 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: like Mitch McConnell, who I look, I gotta find relationship 368 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: with Mitch McConnell. Okay, But when you see him talking 369 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: at the podium about how Ukraine is the most important 370 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: priority for the American people right now, how does that 371 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: make you feel? Because I'll tell you how it makes 372 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: me feel like I'm a stone's throw away. I live 373 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: in western Pennsylvania in Beaver County, a stone's throw from 374 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: East Palestine. I saw President Trump and Don Junior go 375 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: to East Palistine JD. Vans Yea to meet powerful there. 376 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: It was powerful. It was powerful. And you know, watch 377 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: the clips with the volume on if you haven't already, 378 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: you see how the people react to just not being forgotten, 379 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: but the idea that maybe people in East Palestine have 380 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: leaders in this country that love, care about them and 381 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: invest in them. They were deeply appreciative of it. So 382 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: to me, I see a divide between the priorities of 383 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: some of the leadership in Washington and what really matters 384 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: to Americans. Do you see that too, is that. 385 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: It's one of the most problematic things because it's everything 386 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: has become in my opinion, when it comes to nastary, defense, 387 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: law enforcement. What did Trump do? We're doing the opposite, 388 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: and what the afghan withdrawal is a is a great 389 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: way and a tragic way to make this example. Yeah, 390 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: President Trump asked us withdraw out of Afghanistan, but leaving 391 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: our keynotes, leaving Bagram, not releasing the terrorists methodically, also 392 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: have a diplomatic silo going at the same time in 393 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: the military, and do it based on intelligence and evidence 394 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: on the ground. Where's al Qaeda? Are they being defeated? 395 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: What's the Talban doing with our money? Et cetera. We 396 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: handed that off to the Biden administration and we said 397 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: call it. I was like, call it the Biden plan, 398 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: call it whatever you want. The success of this is 399 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: too important for America, And they wouldn't even take our calls. Instead, 400 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: they leaked to the media saying Trump DoD refuses transition, 401 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: which is hilarious because we ran the largest transition in 402 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: presidential history for the Department of Defense ever. And that's 403 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: the problem with the deep state. Eight They put out 404 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: that narrative, and then what happens, Joe Biden, let's out 405 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: the terrorists from Bagram and thirteen American soldiers are in 406 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: caskets on their way home to Dover for a dignified transfer. 407 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: That's the difference. That is the difference. 408 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: To me, in a nutshell, I am I'm blown away 409 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: by that story because in and just like researching you, 410 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: I did stumble upon that narrative and I did think 411 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: to myself like, oh the narrative, Oh cash cash PTEL 412 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: is blocking transition. And I read that and I immediately 413 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: knew that it was. It was complete garbage. But I 414 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: didn't know the details behind it until you just talked 415 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: about it. Now, how is that not a just a 416 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: very grave dereliction of duty. 417 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: Well, that's what it is. But the media lets them 418 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: get away with it. The deep state actors, the Mark 419 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: Millie's of the world right are in there. 420 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: Mark Mark Milly, what the white rage on Capitol's That's 421 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: what Mark Milly will be remembered. 422 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: Here's the biggest problem about Mark Milly. I was in 423 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: the situation room heading up counter terrorism for President Trump 424 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: when we did the Bag Daddy raid, and Mark Milly 425 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: was a chairman in that room with us on that night. 426 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: And I'll tell everyone he acted the way a chairman 427 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: was supposed to act, a politically, giving his advice, telling 428 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: him the ground for his truth so the President of 429 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: the United States and Secretary of Defense could make a decision. 430 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: Why I bring that up, he's because that's the same 431 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: man talk about white rage, how climate change is important, 432 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: and why gender matters, and what your sexbox used plick 433 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: is pick is more important to serving and putting on 434 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: the uniform than anything else, because these people stay and 435 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: say whatever they need to stay in the position they have, 436 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: rather than serve the mission. 437 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: So to a certain extent, like do you believe, I 438 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: mean I personally believe that you know, generals into in 439 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: today's day and age, chairmans are the joint chiefs like 440 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: at the high sessions, they're more they're they're focused on 441 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: politics and not the mission and survival career survival. Oh yeah, 442 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: I have a theory about this like guys like me 443 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: who you know. I went into the military cash, intended 444 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: to make it a career, and I got to Afghanistan 445 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: on at the height of the hunt for Bin Laden. Wow, 446 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: we got shot up every day, every single day, direct 447 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: fire engagements, indirect fire, and like real quick like the 448 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: first firefight, I was kind of like, Okay, that's kind 449 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: of cool, Like I can't believe you survived that. After 450 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: the hundredth I was like, Okay, I got to get 451 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: the hell out of here. And what I learned real 452 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: quickly is that the guys that don't go through that, 453 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: the guys that have never seen war, end up saying hey, 454 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna stay and I'm gonna play the game. 455 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it a career. And those are the 456 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: guys that become promotable. But the guys, those are the 457 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: guys that make it to general and the guys that 458 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: like get into some serious, serious shit and I'm like, 459 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this anymore, they get out. 460 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: And so you're left with people who at the highest 461 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: echelons of our military have maybe never seen frontline combat 462 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: before or the implications are the cost of war up 463 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: close and personal and it's almost like an artist, you know, 464 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: being an artist and never having painting painted a painting. 465 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: Exactly, and they want you to They want you to 466 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: be the new van Go or the new Blangelo. And 467 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 2: you know this is the conversation for another day. But 468 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: you know, the Joint chiefs of Staff needs a massive 469 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: reduction in size because these people, the gofos as we 470 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: call them, the flag officers, they exist for each other. 471 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: They don't, not all of them, but a large portion 472 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: of them don't need those stars on their shoulders and 473 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: don't need the billets they're sitting in. What we need 474 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: are ground level operators running the important strategic decisions of 475 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: the Department of Defense, who have the experience to tell 476 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 2: leadership political leadership separately. This is what I think. This 477 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: is the chain of command, Roger, that we're going to 478 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: go down and act accordingly, not people in between who 479 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: are going to subvert the actions of a duly elected 480 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: president because Mark Milly doesn't like President Trump anymore and 481 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: wants sustain. 482 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's exactly what happened. So I promised 483 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: you cash, I got you for thirty minutes. He's got 484 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: a hard out in six minutes. But before you go like, 485 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: give me, give me, give me a sense of what 486 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: you see twenty how you see twenty twenty four shaping up? 487 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, just all recent polling come out. Trump's 488 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: still the guy like don't have a negative thing to 489 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: say about the Santis. I like him. But here's the 490 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: thing with here's what DeSantis to me like has the 491 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: luxury of something that President Trump does not have. He 492 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: has time, and I personally I think that the first 493 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: four years of the Trump presidency were completely solen from them. Yeah, 494 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: he never really had a chance to govern, and yet 495 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: look at all of the amazing things if he did 496 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: for this country. So I mean that's where I come 497 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: down and all this where do you come down? 498 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: I ay, I'm all in behind President Trump. I think 499 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: he's the guy that puts the mission first. In my 500 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: mind when it comes to nascurarity, defense, intelligence, law enforcement, 501 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: things you and I care about work so much on, 502 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: and the thing that most Americans shouldn't have to deal 503 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: with because that's the way America's supposed to operate. But 504 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: when you weaponize it, when you politicize it, it becomes 505 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: something to sell in the fake news media. So what 506 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: I think President Trump is successful in doing is He's 507 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: able to uniquely go out and say, hey, you don't 508 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: have to believe what I'm just telling you. Look back 509 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: at my administration and judge what we did. We secured 510 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: the border, we defeated the drug cartels. We took on China, Russia, 511 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: and Iran. We killed all kind of senior leadership. We 512 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: wiped out themars of isis. We brought home more American 513 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: hostages than every president before him combined. These are first 514 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: missions that aren't political in any way. He wound us 515 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: out of wars decades Los War, so he has empirical 516 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: data to run on now. Of course the media doesn't 517 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: want to touch it because they know he was successful 518 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: in it. But he has the ability President Trump to 519 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: break through to that middle road America moderate lefts even 520 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: and say, look, you know you rely to now about 521 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: Russia Gate, about Hunter Biden's laptop, about Ukraine, about Jensen whatever, right, right, yeah, 522 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: Now how about you listen to the policy videos that 523 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: President Trump is putting out on almost a weekly basis, 524 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: on true social amazing, telling the American people, this is 525 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do with the Chinese economy, this is 526 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do at the border. I'm gonna put 527 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: the death penalty on the table for drug kingpins. These 528 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: are ideas and solutions that America just doesn't have in 529 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: the White House right now. And that's the distinction. And 530 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: I think you know, when you hear him speak on 531 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: Saturday Night, you're gonna hear a inert woven policy methodology 532 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: to structure an America First agenda that is just going 533 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: to wipe out anyone else that's running Democrat or Republican. 534 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: What are they going to do then steal his ideas? 535 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: Well, that's right. The answer to that is that, yes, 536 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: so you see Joe Biden steel his ideas in the 537 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: White House every single day. But yeah, I agree, and 538 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: I saw it firsthand in Pennsylvania, having run for Congress 539 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and then run for Senate in twenty 540 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: twenty two. President Trump brings out a cross section of 541 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: voters that I've never seen any other politician ever do. 542 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 543 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: So if he can do that again in twenty twenty 544 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: four and focus on voter registration deficits and critical battleground states, 545 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be successful. I think so too, 546 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: But everyone cash Betel thank you brother for joining, for 547 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: joining battleground. Yeah you're out of here. 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