1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: And I'm Doug Prisner. Here are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Now In the top stories, China has told its state 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: owned banks to boost support for the yuan, the Chinese currency. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Joan Wong has the story from Hong Kong. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: The request came as the yuan fell towards seven point 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 3: three five per dollar. China is now in a push 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: to prevent a search in yuon volatility. Senior officials are 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: also considering cutting banks forign exchange reserve requirements, and they're 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: checking whether domestic companies helped accelerate yuan declines by conducting 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: speculative trades against it. A sense of gloom has descended 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: on China's markets, even though Beijing sawt to bolster sentiment 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 3: was an interest rate cut. The banks will release their 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: lone prime rates on Monday next week. In Hong Kong, 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm joined Wang Bloomberg Day Brigasia Well China. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: Evergrand Group is seeking Chapter fifteen bankruptcy protection in New 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: York now. Chapter fifteen protects a company's US assets while 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: restructuring arrangements are worked out in foreign jurisdictions. This type 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: of filing is routine in cases involving a restructuring of 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: debt held internationally. Now, Evergrand has been working for months 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: to finalize an offshore debt restructuring plan. Back in April, 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: you may recall Evergrand disclosed it did not yet have 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 2: the level of credit or support needed to implement the plan. 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: Now. 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Today's petition here in New York references proceedings being carried 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: out by Evergrand in both Hong Kong and the Cayman Islands. 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: Right Hines's police officers went to the homes of people 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: who invested in Jongjur's trust unit and told them to 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: avoid public protests. People all the way from from Beijing 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: to Sichuan to jung Su received these visits, which they 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: did refer to as cordial. But it's the latest sign 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: that authorities are worried about unrest. Fears of financial contagion 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: have grown since the company Jongrong International Trust, which is 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: not Jongjur Unit, missed dozens of high yield products. This week, 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: group gathered briefly at the Beijing offices of General to 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: demand payment on these financial products. 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: Well back here in the States, President Biden will host 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: the leaders of Japan and South Korea. This will happen 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: at the Camp David Presidential Retreat. It's in rural Maryland, 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: and that will get underway tomorrow. The president is looking 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: to strengthen ties and open up lines of communications with 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: both countries. We spoke earlier with Bloomberg's Jack Fitzpatrick. 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 4: North Korea will be on the dock at Nuclear non 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 4: proliferation is something they have said they're going to talk about, 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: and the latest there is that South Korean experts have 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: told our colleagues that North Korea may actually time the 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: test launch of a missile that can deliver a nuclear 48 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: warhead to the US mainland to coincide with that summit. 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg's Jack Fitzpatrick, by the way, was back 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: in June that the US, Japan, and South Korea all 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: agreed to share real time information on North Korean missile launches, 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: and they have since conducted several joint anti submarine and 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: missile defense exercises. 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: Right we hear Goldman Sachs Doug is planning to hire 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: several hundred new staffers to help address concerns raised by 56 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: banking supervisors. We get more from Bloomberg's Studhart Notrogen. 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 5: Over the past year. We understand that there has been 58 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: ramped up FED scrutiny from their banking supervisors that are 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 5: trying to remediate what they see as lapses. We of 60 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 5: course know that their consumer business, their credit card practices 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: have been looked at by the CFPB and other government agencies, 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 5: and we know that the FED had been asking questions 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 5: on that. 64 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: Goldman's hiring spree is notable in a year in which 65 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: the firm has been shrinking headcount because of a market slowdown. 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Unclear is what deficiencies Goldman is seeking to address with this. 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: The firm largely abandoned an effort to build out a 68 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: consumer bank that may have set off some questions from 69 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: the FED. 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: Last year, well after the bell here in the States, 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: Applied Materials gave a bullish forecast for the current quarter. 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: We have that story from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 73 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 6: Applied is the largest American maker of chip making machinery, 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 6: and its forecast indicates that an industry slump maybe fading. 75 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 6: CEO Gary Dickerson says a shift toward artificial intelligence computing 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 6: and the rise of Internet connected devices are helping bolster results. 77 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 6: Applied Materials said fiscal fourth quarter sales will be about 78 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 6: six point five one billion dollars. That compares with an 79 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 6: average analyst estimate of five point eight eight billion in 80 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 6: New York Charlie Pellett, Bloomberg Daybreak as and shares in 81 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 6: Applied Materials right now higher by more than two percent 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 6: in late US trading, Brian, So what. 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: Struck me is interesting about that? Hence my tongue in 84 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: cheek comment about dazzling you with some brilliant So is this? 85 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, We've had a lot of companies actually who've 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: had pretty solid earnings in the stocks have traded down. 87 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: But it's different with Applied Materials. I think simply because 88 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: the time went on and this stock sold down from 89 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: the one fifties down to the one thirties, to the 90 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: point where the valuation was at a point where when 91 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: investors got a beat right across the board, they decided 92 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: to go in there. 93 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 6: And buy it. 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: So you had that move up, as you just mentioned, 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: two point one percent. So it's interesting if you think 96 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: that a lot of the correction that we're seeing at 97 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the moment is really due to valuation. 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: Very interesting day in the bond market, and I wanted 99 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: to talk a little bit more about one of the 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: things that may have been functioning today as it relates 101 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: to week foreign currencies, particularly the Chinese You won, as 102 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: we heard earlier, the U one weekend over nine two 103 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: seven spot three five against the greenback. That's when we 104 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: were told Chinese authorities gave instruction to some state owned 105 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: banks to step up their intervention. Now it's reasonable to 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: assume that a few of those banks sold some US 107 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: dollar assets, long dated US treasuries as an example, to 108 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: raise funds in order to buy the Chinese currency, and that, Brian, 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: I think may have been one of the reasons that 110 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: we see a little bit of weakness at the long 111 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: end today. 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting that China would be selling US treasurers. 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: We had reported that that had been the case in 114 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: this latest round, and that Japan had upped its amount 115 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: of treasures, but China had sold. So there's definitely a 116 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: lot of nervousness there. And I think, as you mentioned 117 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: right now, we've got the offshore Chinese currency at seven 118 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: thirty forty, so strengthening considerably. Very interesting stories out of China. 119 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we mentioned that people said that police officers 120 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: came to their homes and paid a cordial visit visit, 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: but we know in China, when police officers go to 122 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: your home and tell you don't go out to public protests, 123 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: people get the message, whether or not they consider the 124 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: visit cordial or not. Another interesting point, sources telling us 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: that Tyson Foods, the biggest US meat company, is looking 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: at options, including selling its China business. Interesting process. 127 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: Looking forward to next week, right with those loone prime 128 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: rate cuts. 129 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Yep on Monday. Very interesting. Indeed, we'll see most likely 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: they'll follow what we saw from the PBOC earlier. It's 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: not always slam dunk, but I think that's what we expect. 132 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Now it's time for Global news. Questions mounting here over 133 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: why Maui's warning sirens system did not sound when the 134 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Maui wildfires broke out. A batched with Global News in 135 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: the nine to sixty News from San Francisco. 136 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 7: Ed, Yeah, that's right. Brian officials are saying that they 137 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 7: were not designed for fires, but for tsunamis, and that 138 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 7: instructions are to flee to higher ground. They say, the 139 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 7: officials do that that would have had people running toward 140 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 7: the flames. The Attorney General is dubious and investigating, as 141 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 7: well as accounts that some of the alarms are broken. Anyway, 142 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 7: It's been no official cause released for those fires, but 143 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 7: from the beginning there's been concern that it could have 144 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 7: been down power lines. Bob Marshall's CEO of Whisker Lobs 145 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 7: power Monitoring System, says that new video shows little doubt 146 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 7: about what happened. There is didn't meddle and sparks falling 147 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 7: down to the ground, So if you've got dry grass 148 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 7: and fuel underneath, that's what sparks the fire. Hawaiian Electric 149 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 7: is not commenting. There are now thirty FEMA canine teams 150 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 7: searching through the rubble of the Hina Town fire, and 151 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 7: Governor Josh Green says a slow, painful process, one. 152 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 8: Individual by one individual. 153 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: It makes us, like I said, heartbroken. 154 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 7: And President Biden has made his most visible comments about 155 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 7: the fires today. 156 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 9: Already from the darkness and the smoke and the ash, 157 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 9: we've seen the light of hope and strength, first responders 158 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 9: working around the clock. Many of those first responders in 159 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 9: fact impacted by the fires themselves, losing their own homes. 160 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 9: Volunteers delivery made by fishing boat on jet skis. 161 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 7: He is going to be there on Monday, with President 162 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 7: Biden hosting the leaders of Japan and South Korea tomorrow 163 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 7: and North Korea being a prime topic for conversation. It 164 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 7: is one of the major topics and was the topic 165 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 7: of conversation today at the UN Security Council, Human Rights 166 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 7: Chief Vulgar Turk telling the Council human rights are very 167 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 7: much being abused. 168 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 10: The people of the DPRK have endured periods of severe 169 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 10: economic difficulty and at other times severe repression of their rights. 170 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 10: Currently they appear to be suffering both. 171 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 7: Turk says people are becoming increasingly desperate. Los Angeles Area 172 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 7: has put together a task force made up of Los 173 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 7: Angeles Police, La County Sheriff's Office, Burbank and Glendale police 174 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 7: departments to crack down on retail theft. The flash mobs 175 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 7: hit luxury stores, they're in and out. LA Mayor Karen vass. 176 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 8: To Angelino's our message is clear, those who commit these 177 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 8: crimes will be caught, they will be held accountable, and 178 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 8: we will work to address this issue. 179 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 7: And La County Sheriff Robert Luna says it will be multifaceted. 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 11: We're not only focused on the individuals who are walking 181 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 11: into these stores and committing the crimes that we see 182 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 11: on video. But if you are supporting them logistically, either 183 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 11: by being a driver, harboring them, buying merchandise, selling merchandise, 184 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 11: you're in this chain. 185 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 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Joy, 192 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: thank you for taking out the time to be with us. 193 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: So we've seen this repricing in the bond market, but 194 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: yields have gone up a lot more at the long 195 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: end than they have at the short end, which might 196 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: suggest that investors don't really see a lot of big 197 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: changes coming to FED policy. Hence, is this correction that 198 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: we're seeing in the stock market Is that more about 199 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: valuations than perhaps fears about sharply high interest rates from the. 200 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 12: FAT I mean interesting question because we look across markets 201 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 12: and we see equity markets are also down, so I think, 202 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 12: you know, it could be that people are just now sensitive. 203 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 12: We thought August was going to be quiet, but it 204 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 12: hasn't turned out that way. You know, when we look 205 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 12: at where we came from at the beginning of the year, 206 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 12: you know, we were looking at very diversient opinions with 207 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 12: the market trying to price them both rate hikes and 208 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 12: rate cuts, and the VIX the measure of fear and 209 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 12: uncertainty in the markets was quite high above twenty five. 210 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 12: We got to July and we thought we were getting 211 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 12: confident building consensus. Everybody thought rate hikes were nearing the end. 212 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 12: Markets were optimistics, and then we're here in August reading 213 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 12: the Fed minutes, and now we've had kind of a 214 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 12: reversal of opinion because the Fed is saying that, you know, 215 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 12: inflation is not over. There is still a risk of inflation, 216 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 12: so we're we may be looking at more interest rate hike. 217 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 12: So I don't think this is just repricing. I think 218 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 12: there is you know, gener you know, kind of fear 219 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 12: again back in the markets, with the vicks crawling back up, 220 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 12: equity markets down, the bond market is still inverted. Yields, 221 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 12: so I think that's looking quite fragile still. 222 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 13: Joy are we shaving up for some kind of perfect 223 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 13: storm with everything that's happening in China as well? It 224 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 13: seems like everything is coming to a head right now. 225 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 12: It's interesting because I think we do need to look 226 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 12: around the world, not just focused on the US market. 227 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 12: We're seeing this fragility in the Chinese market. The you know, 228 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 12: kind of reawakening hasn't happened, and we're looking at really 229 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 12: like numbers coming out every day that don't look good. 230 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 12: And we look across to the UK markets, you know, 231 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 12: we're seeing inflation has weird its head again, Labor markets 232 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 12: are quite strong. So those are indicators of what maybe 233 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 12: happening or spreading across the world. 234 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Well, the vicset seventeen isn't all that high historically, and 235 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: five percent correction in stocks is not a huge amount, 236 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: but it seems like, you know, for a lot of investors, 237 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: they see the kind of growth that you get from 238 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: the Atlanta GDP now, and you know, seeing some of 239 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: the data well supported for the economy, they they're not 240 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: that nervous you say they should be. 241 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 12: So, you know, but I think, you know, this is 242 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 12: where I think we also need to look beyond the headlines, 243 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 12: beyond aggregate market numbers and look, you know, kind of below, 244 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 12: you know, look into the details. And we know that 245 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 12: this is a market that's been led by just a 246 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 12: few you know, big macro tech stocks. You know, we've 247 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 12: been calling them the Magnificent seven and they've been slowly 248 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 12: reducing to maybe just the Magnificent one with Nvidia. But 249 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 12: you know, if you look at what's happened since me, 250 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 12: some conductors have been flat. Oil, you know, is up 251 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 12: thirty percent oil service companies, whereas you know, at the 252 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 12: beginning of the year, oil service companies were down and 253 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 12: semiconductors were up almost fifty percent. So I think we're 254 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 12: seeing this rotation and it may be masked on a 255 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 12: high level aggregate number. 256 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 13: So joy at Market Vector, you published once a month 257 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 13: the best performing indexes, and you know, perhaps unsurprisingly, in July, 258 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 13: it was things like bond indexes and digital assets indexes. 259 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 13: How does that flip for August and September, given that 260 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 13: we saw bitcoin in the twenty five thousand dollars range. 261 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 12: Today, Yeah, so I mean bitcoin has you know, kind 262 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 12: of fallen back again, but I think, you know, we 263 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 12: still have this application process, which spot bitcoin ETF in 264 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 12: the filing, and you know, that's a big that's going 265 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 12: to be you know, big opening for bitcoin should it 266 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 12: be passed. And I think just being filed, you know, 267 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 12: is an indication that institutions are looking at this space 268 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 12: and that so. 269 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 13: Many have been rejected on so many are still file. 270 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 12: But I think this is you know, this may be 271 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 12: you know, a long term process, but I think it's 272 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 12: showing that we're you know, people are looking at the 273 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 12: space and that they're giving it credibility and that there 274 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 12: are different investors coming in to give it a diverse 275 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 12: you know kind of market. 276 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Joey, you're sounding pretty cautious here. So are you somewhere 277 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: between a soft landing and hard landing or do you 278 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: actually believe we will get that sort of full blown recession. 279 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 12: I think investors should be cautious, always cautious. So I 280 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 12: think if you look at what's happening with banks, you know, 281 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 12: we also do follow top ten banks. You know, should 282 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 12: rates hold for longer higher, then that's going to spill 283 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 12: over to credit risk. It's going to spill over to 284 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 12: default risk, it's going to spill over to refinancing. Risks. 285 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 12: So we're looking at banks, we're looking at reeds, you know, 286 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 12: and those haven't been moving up at all, and they've 287 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 12: been moving down. 288 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 13: So where are the flows into your indexes? 289 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 12: Well, semiconductors here to date are still strong. But you know, 290 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 12: I think investors shouldn't be chasing flows. They should really 291 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 12: be thinking about their macro views and really either being 292 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 12: diversified or being nimble. And ETFs are a good structure, 293 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 12: but some of those flows may be moving very quickly, 294 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 12: and that's the point. They're liquid instruments, so they are 295 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 12: good tools for investors to use in this in this environment. 296 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: How about emerging Marcus, it seems like with China all 297 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: that's going on there that that would be dragging them down. 298 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: And I note that EEM has been down pretty solidly 299 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: here for the past two weeks overall. What's your thoughts on. 300 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 12: Emergency interesting because we have a Vietnam index as well 301 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 12: as India index and those have been pretty strong as 302 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 12: well as Brazil. Seeing that, you know, you know, although 303 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 12: China will have a significant impact on emerging markets overall, 304 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 12: that these individual markets have been quite resilient and maybe 305 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 12: prepared for divergent performance. 306 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 13: What's the number one question you get asked by clients 307 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 13: these days. 308 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 12: Good question, but you know, we're getting a lot of 309 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 12: digital asset interests, so people are asking about how to 310 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 12: think about price in this market. And you know, that's 311 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 12: one of the big concerns for the SEC filings is, 312 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 12: you know, how do we think about rigorous pricing with 313 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 12: a market that's so fragmented with so many exchanges. 314 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: You know, you know, we've only got about forty seconds left. 315 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: So perhaps the final question about where yields are heading, 316 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: particularly at the short end. We haven't seen you know, 317 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: such a big balance in the two year yield. Where 318 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: do you see that, say, over the next six months. 319 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, so I don't have a crystal ball here that 320 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 12: you know. 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