Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to the Dave Pash Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: your host ESPN and Arizona Cardinals broadcast your Dave Pash.
Speaker 1: We've been away for a while, but the pod is back.
Speaker 1: We are going to tape a series of episodes over
Speaker 1: the next few months, and we kick it off with
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals owner Michael Bidwild. This is the second time
Speaker 1: that Michael has appeared on the podcast, and obviously a
Speaker 1: lot has changed since his first appearance. The Cardinals have
Speaker 1: a new general manager as well as a new head coach.
Speaker 1: Michael will go in depth on the process that led
Speaker 1: to the hiring of Mantias and Fort, as well as
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannett. Michael's also going to give us an update
Speaker 1: on the health and progress of Kyler Murray, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: quarterback who's coming off major knee surgery. I think right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a young man, it looks like he's
Speaker 1: a fast healer. Things are going well. Let's hope that
Speaker 1: keeps going the way it is and that there are
Speaker 1: no setbacks as he comes back. I think if you're
Speaker 1: a Cardinal fan, you're gonna feel like you were brought
Speaker 1: in to the interview room When you hear this conversation
Speaker 1: with Michael, he's very open and honest and transparent about
Speaker 1: what he liked about Monny and Jonathan Gannon and some
Speaker 1: of the things that Cardinals still need to fix, like
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, other areas of concern that he
Speaker 1: has with regard to the roster, what the draft process
Speaker 1: is going to look like going forward. All that and
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Speaker 1: Dave Pash Podcast is back and our guest today as
Speaker 1: own a Cardinals owner, Michael Bidwill. So, Michael, you've been
Speaker 1: one of the busiest guys in sports, between hiring a
Speaker 1: general manager, hiring a head coach, hosting a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: have you had a chance to catch a breath at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It took the weekend off immediately after the press conference
Speaker 1: introducing Jonathan Gannon as our head coach. Took off and
Speaker 1: went to South Florida and took a long weekend as
Speaker 1: President's Day weekend. So it was it was really nice
Speaker 1: to take a few days off, got back here Monday afternoon,
Speaker 1: and right back at it yesterday morning. So we're you
Speaker 1: just in a stretch where you weren't sleeping, You're just
Speaker 1: grinding between the searches and everything going on with the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Well, I slept, and a lot of this,
Speaker 1: you know, started before the end of the season because
Speaker 1: you know, you could see things happening, and I knew
Speaker 1: that Steve Kim was not going to be with the organization,
Speaker 1: you know, before we announced it, and so there was
Speaker 1: works that started all the way into December. We had
Speaker 1: a great the NFL had hosted a great accelerator program
Speaker 1: through the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Committee in Dallas early
Speaker 1: in December, and that was a good chance for me
Speaker 1: to meet a number of different candidates, including several that
Speaker 1: we spoke with, so I'm excited about our future. It
Speaker 1: was definitely a long six weeks. It really picked up
Speaker 1: after the end of the season when when we made
Speaker 1: the changes and announced that Steve would not be returning
Speaker 1: as general manager and immediately jumped into the GM search
Speaker 1: and sort of simultaneously, you know, was approached by a
Speaker 1: number of different folks about head coaching the head coach
Speaker 1: position as well, So there's a tremendous interest, you know.
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, just roughly about twenty five
Speaker 1: different candidates that were wanted to get into that pipeline
Speaker 1: of being interviewed for the general manager position, and more
Speaker 1: than thirty, probably thirty five different candidates who were approached
Speaker 1: different ways for the head coach position. But I think
Speaker 1: we've got a great one with Monti astin Ford. I've
Speaker 1: been working with him now for several weeks and now
Speaker 1: one week on the job with JG and Jonathan Gannon's
Speaker 1: been terrific as well. So it's it's cool to get
Speaker 1: into this rhythm with Monti and you know, just figuring
Speaker 1: out how we're going to work together. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a build up to it, and you know, it's just
Speaker 1: been going great. So I want to dive a little
Speaker 1: bit deeper into each and kind of the process of
Speaker 1: going through those interviews and the decision making. But let's
Speaker 1: go back to during the season. You mentioned you had
Speaker 1: an inkling Steve wasn't going to be back and you
Speaker 1: were going to make a change at head coach. When
Speaker 1: did that start? When did you start thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's got to be a change in
Speaker 1: the direction of the organization. Well, I think it was
Speaker 1: earlier in December where I felt like Steve wouldn't be back.
Speaker 1: Didn't talk about it. I wanted to wait until I
Speaker 1: had we had played all the games to do the
Speaker 1: full evaluation with coach Kingsbury. But I felt like, man,
Speaker 1: he really put a lot of effort in trying to
Speaker 1: get this team in the right direction, and I think
Speaker 1: it just got to a point to where it was
Speaker 1: just time for a change. But it wasn't because of
Speaker 1: a lack of effort. I mean, he put in the time,
Speaker 1: he worked hard. Appreciate all his contributions and his staff
Speaker 1: as well. Many of his staff will not be back,
Speaker 1: but I do appreciate what they contributed. So when you
Speaker 1: started the process then of you said you knew Steve
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be back before it was announced, and you
Speaker 1: start the process of searching for a general manager. What
Speaker 1: was that like to start to put feelers out there
Speaker 1: because you had obviously internal candidates and ended up going
Speaker 1: with an external candidate. Yeah, as you know, I put
Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson and Quentin Harris in a sort of co
Speaker 1: general managers on an interim basis, asked them to each
Speaker 1: take part of the general manager's roles. They end up
Speaker 1: sort of combining them, which was fine too, But I
Speaker 1: thought it was you know, it was it was good
Speaker 1: to be talking to people. I wasn't going to talk
Speaker 1: about it very broadly. I want to just talk to
Speaker 1: people that I trusted, knowing that it wouldn't get out
Speaker 1: by just talking to that group of people. And then
Speaker 1: when it became clear that we were getting real close
Speaker 1: to the end of the season, that's when I invited
Speaker 1: both Adrian and Quinton to interview for the position, and
Speaker 1: as well, I had spoken to Jerry Reese even before
Speaker 1: the season ended, former general manager of the New York
Speaker 1: Football Giants. Jerry Reese, Can you talk about that a
Speaker 1: little bit in terms of just your relationship with him
Speaker 1: and how far you guys go back. Well, we go
Speaker 1: way back. I mean he's he was with the Giants
Speaker 1: for a long long time, and he has two Super
Speaker 1: Bowl rings and now he's been out of football for
Speaker 1: quite a few years. But I wanted to speak to him.
Speaker 1: I in speaking to Rod Graves, who heads up the
Speaker 1: Fritz Power Alliance, he was very high on Jerry, as
Speaker 1: so was John Mara, the owner of the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: So I thought it was it was great to get
Speaker 1: together with him. I flew after the game in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I flew out to Nashville and met him in his
Speaker 1: town and we spent about three hours together and just
Speaker 1: asked him to keep it, keep it wrapped up and
Speaker 1: confidential and U and then we had him back out
Speaker 1: when you know, we started the process formally the following week.
Speaker 1: When did Monty Austin Ford's name first come up? And
Speaker 1: how did it come up? It came up Probably the
Speaker 1: first person that that spoke about Monty was was John Mara,
Speaker 1: another good friend in the in the league, uh, and
Speaker 1: I heard about him from other owners who had spoken
Speaker 1: with him. I spoke to Robert Kraft, about him, his name.
Speaker 1: You know, he had worked for the Patriots for many,
Speaker 1: many years, and Robert was very very high on money,
Speaker 1: and so there were his name came up pretty early
Speaker 1: and uh and and we actually spoke, We had a
Speaker 1: lengthy phone call one one evening before he even came
Speaker 1: to town for the interview and uh and I really
Speaker 1: got a sense of Money then, and it was it
Speaker 1: was very impressive. What were some of the things that
Speaker 1: stood out to you right away about Money, whether it's
Speaker 1: his personality or how he viewsed the game. I think
Speaker 1: he's he's got that. Uh. You know, we've talked about
Speaker 1: our our system, which is about to be our former system,
Speaker 1: a best player available for for draft and things along
Speaker 1: those lines. He comes from a completely different system and
Speaker 1: I would call it the New England system with a
Speaker 1: little bit of a modification. And that's where they're looking
Speaker 1: for specific type of players with specific types of characteristics,
Speaker 1: and they're not worried about what everybody else thinks. And
Speaker 1: um and when you look at New England, I've done
Speaker 1: a great job of identifying players with physical characteristics, with
Speaker 1: mental characteristics, with high football intelligence and then having success
Speaker 1: out of that system. So we talked quite a bit
Speaker 1: about that. We talked about what kind of coach he
Speaker 1: wanted to have in place. I think it really showed
Speaker 1: me how prepared he was because he had already interviewed
Speaker 1: a number of different coaches. So he went through this
Speaker 1: interview process last year and he realized, Hey, I'm putting
Speaker 1: names out there that I just know reputationally or I've
Speaker 1: only met a few times and haven't really spoken to.
Speaker 1: So he took his offseason, He took June and July
Speaker 1: and set up zooms with a bunch of the coaches
Speaker 1: that were on his list and some that weren't on
Speaker 1: his list, and some of those coaches rose to the top.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon was one of them. Some of those coaches
Speaker 1: were eliminated based on those interviews. So he really did
Speaker 1: a screening process before he was even named general manager
Speaker 1: of any team. And I thought it really showed how
Speaker 1: dialed in he is to you know, getting ready to
Speaker 1: be a general manager. That he was ahead of it
Speaker 1: and he wasn't going to waste any team's time by saying, well,
Speaker 1: let's go talk to these folks. He had already done it.
Speaker 1: Everybody on his list was somebody he had already vetted
Speaker 1: and he wanted to get deeper into the Into the interview,
Speaker 1: you mentioned that the new system of evaluating players is
Speaker 1: very similar to what he had in New England. So
Speaker 1: you've been in those draft board rooms now for twenty
Speaker 1: five years. Will this will the room and the grading
Speaker 1: system and the board, Will that look completely different than
Speaker 1: it's looked in the past. You think, well, you're kind
Speaker 1: to say, been looking at it for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: It's probably much longer than that. That is embarrassingly long
Speaker 1: because of at a young age when I walked into
Speaker 1: the into the draft room in the nineteen seventies and eighties.
Speaker 1: Our system is pretty much the same as it was
Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties. But in the seventies and
Speaker 1: not until the later in the eighties, the data that
Speaker 1: was written on our cards was handwritten and it was
Speaker 1: just on a card, and it was stored in somebody's notebook.
Speaker 1: And today that that same data is stored in a
Speaker 1: computer and printed off on a printer, which didn't exist
Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties. So it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: We modified it a few times, one around off field
Speaker 1: character and a big, big upgrade around Danny Green when
Speaker 1: Danny Green came in and had us reorganized the board,
Speaker 1: and this is the way many of the teams do it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's like flipping from a three foard defense
Speaker 1: to a four three defense. We're just changing systems here.
Speaker 1: It's not going to look much different this year. But
Speaker 1: because what Moni didn't want to do is because a
Speaker 1: lot of scouting has happened with scouts, is to sort
Speaker 1: of change the language and change the system midstream. So
Speaker 1: he's adapting to how we have been grading, and then
Speaker 1: he's going to adapt that and adapt the board. But
Speaker 1: going into the twenty twenty three college football season, we're
Speaker 1: going to make that full change as soon as the
Speaker 1: draft is over, and then the twenty four draft will
Speaker 1: look a lot like a modified New England, modified Tennessee system,
Speaker 1: because this is the system they input at Tennessee. As well.
Speaker 1: Your conversations with Monty about the current roster when you
Speaker 1: were trying to make the decision about Monty, what were
Speaker 1: some of the things that stood out to you that
Speaker 1: impressed you about some of the things he had to
Speaker 1: say about the current roster that you have. Well, I
Speaker 1: think number one, we spent a lot of time talking
Speaker 1: about Kyler and what type of offense we should be
Speaker 1: running and how to protect him and where we should
Speaker 1: be spending our money. We've got a lot of money
Speaker 1: hide up in a couple of different positions, and so
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see that change. We're gonna
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see us beefing up the
Speaker 1: offensive line, the defensive line. We've got to get help
Speaker 1: at corner. We've got to get a just more protection
Speaker 1: for Kyler, and then we've got to be able to
Speaker 1: rush the passers, especially in the in the NFC West.
Speaker 1: So I think you're going to see a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of changes, but they're not going to happen immediately,
Speaker 1: and they will happen over the next several years is
Speaker 1: we get opportunities to build on the draft class that's
Speaker 1: coming up. You mentioned about Adrian and Quinton their roles
Speaker 1: as co interim general managers leading up to the end
Speaker 1: of the season. What were the conversations like with those
Speaker 1: difficult conversations when you had to say, look, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go in a different direction. We're going to go
Speaker 1: with an external candidate. Yeah, I think they understood it's
Speaker 1: part of the business, and both of them want to
Speaker 1: be gms, and certainly we're hoping, but I think, you know,
Speaker 1: what I want to do is make the best decision
Speaker 1: for the Cardinal's long term and sometimes that is a
Speaker 1: tough decision relative to the people that were applying for
Speaker 1: it internally. And same thing with Vance Joseph, who had
Speaker 1: interviewed for the head coach position. You know, you'd love
Speaker 1: to be able to promote from from within, but what
Speaker 1: we needed to do is make the best decision for
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and what was the best decision for us?
Speaker 1: And I thought that was Monti assin Fort and I
Speaker 1: thought that was Jonathan Gannon. One of the other candidates
Speaker 1: that you spoke with that you mentioned at your press
Speaker 1: conference in terms of general manager was Matt Harris. Can
Speaker 1: you just talk about you Matt, who assume is going
Speaker 1: to stay with the organization his future, and what impressed
Speaker 1: you about Matt and what he does for the team.
Speaker 1: Matt does a great job with our cap and with
Speaker 1: some other things that we do here in terms of
Speaker 1: the administration of the of the roster, and really helped
Speaker 1: helped out Quentin and Adrian during Steve's absence, and so
Speaker 1: he did all three of those guys really stepped up,
Speaker 1: and before December when it was clear that Steve wasn't well,
Speaker 1: and so they stepped up in a great way. But
Speaker 1: I'd say about matt Is, I've been around a lot
Speaker 1: of CAP guys, and he's right up there at the top.
Speaker 1: I mean, he does a great job for us. He
Speaker 1: understands the rules, he understands the CAP, he understands the
Speaker 1: agent community, and he understands how we need to maximize things.
Speaker 1: And I think more importantly, Monie loved him when he
Speaker 1: had a chance to sit down and have the full
Speaker 1: conversation with him. Those guys are going to work together great.
Speaker 1: You talked about being able to have conversations with people
Speaker 1: that you trust in the business and keeping those conversations confidential.
Speaker 1: You guys have always done a really good job with that.
Speaker 1: I go back to the DeAndre Hopkins trade. When all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I see it on Twitter. It's an
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter tweet him, I'm looking okay, it's a blue check.
Speaker 1: That really happened. DeAndre Hopkins is coming to Arizona. So
Speaker 1: you've obviously have been able to build those relationships where
Speaker 1: things don't get leaked. And it was interesting because Jonathan
Speaker 1: Gannon's name, at least publicly, wasn't really out there until
Speaker 1: the end. You guys did a good job of because
Speaker 1: you mentioned Monty obviously liked Jonathan and some of your
Speaker 1: early conversations with him. Is that accurate that he was
Speaker 1: somebody all along that you guys had your eye on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that long telephone conversation, we sort of jumped ahead and okay,
Speaker 1: well who's on your list? And Jonathan Gannon one of
Speaker 1: number one on his list. There were others. Aaron Glenn
Speaker 1: was another trying to think of all the names that
Speaker 1: were on that list, but Aaron Glenn was up there too,
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator at at Detroit who came in and
Speaker 1: did a great job as well. So I think that that,
Speaker 1: you know, again, Monny was the most prepared general manager
Speaker 1: candidate that came in, you know, in terms of being
Speaker 1: ahead of the job. Nobody else hadn't done these interviews
Speaker 1: of the coaches, and I was just super impressed by that.
Speaker 1: Showed a lot of a lot of foresight and and
Speaker 1: also weeding out people that they might be a name
Speaker 1: that everybody's buzzing about, but you know, he eliminated some
Speaker 1: of those folks that might have been not might have
Speaker 1: been they were on other people's lists, and so it
Speaker 1: was interesting. It it was a great process to go through.
Speaker 1: The other three people that I want to thank is internally,
Speaker 1: you know, I ask three people from our executive senior
Speaker 1: executive staff to help out. Lisa Manning, who's been with
Speaker 1: the team for since two thousand before the stadium vote,
Speaker 1: and runs all of our marketing and business operations. Mark Dalton,
Speaker 1: our senior vice president of media Relations, been with us
Speaker 1: since two thousand and four. And then Sean Mayo, who
Speaker 1: is our chief people officer, does all of our human
Speaker 1: relations and does an amazing job, and he's entering his
Speaker 1: third season with us. And the three of those folks
Speaker 1: really helped me. And we all came to the same
Speaker 1: conclusions but from maybe different angles, and they all contributed
Speaker 1: a lot, and I want to thank them. And then
Speaker 1: I think, in the backdrop of all this, Dave we
Speaker 1: talked about at the top of the interview, we were
Speaker 1: preparing for a Super Bowl at the same time, and
Speaker 1: there were, you know, on my staff, Melissa Gaspard, Brittany
Speaker 1: new heiselm so many other folks that helped out to
Speaker 1: help make this an amazing super Bowl, not just for
Speaker 1: you know, the valley and the participating teams in the NFL,
Speaker 1: but also for all of our partners, our employees, everybody
Speaker 1: that was able to participate in this. I think it
Speaker 1: turned out to be an amazing um, an amazing weekend.
Speaker 1: Thank God the weather, you know, cooperated. But we were
Speaker 1: able to do all this, and I didn't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to focus on some of the detail, not some
Speaker 1: many of the details. And there were a lot of
Speaker 1: great members of our staff that that picked up the
Speaker 1: slack for us and allowed us to stay focused on
Speaker 1: the tasks at hand, which was first general manager and
Speaker 1: then head coach search. And after the Super Bowl you
Speaker 1: meet with Jonathan Gannon, he's named the next head coach
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals. What was your first impression of I
Speaker 1: know he likes to go by JG. What was your
Speaker 1: first impression of JG? It was very positive. He talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about our high school experience. Both of
Speaker 1: us went to Jesuit high schools, Jesuit educated where you
Speaker 1: learn to be men and women for others. You know
Speaker 1: that we called it men for others at our high
Speaker 1: school all boys, and so we hit it off there
Speaker 1: and that was a joked. I'm like, man, you're talking
Speaker 1: about your high school school experience as much as I do.
Speaker 1: And then his huge amount of energy and passion for
Speaker 1: the game. He came off of, you know, a really
Speaker 1: tough Super Bowl loss, and he showed up the next
Speaker 1: afternoon here at the training facility raring to go, and
Speaker 1: he just took over the room and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what we're talking about. This guy has the
Speaker 1: ability to lead, He has the ability you know, to
Speaker 1: you know, keep the conversation moving and and that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. What about his philosophy was it something right
Speaker 1: away that clicked with you in terms of how you
Speaker 1: view where this organization needs to go in terms of
Speaker 1: coaching philosophy and player philosophy. Yeah. No, I think he
Speaker 1: outlined a great plan for the offense and particularly for
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and was very excited about him, and most
Speaker 1: of the candidates were. There were no there was a
Speaker 1: lot of noise out there that people were turned off
Speaker 1: by him. Not at all. I think people, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: realize what a great dual threat talent he is. He's
Speaker 1: got this injuries working through, so that's something any coach
Speaker 1: was going to have to manage will do that. And
Speaker 1: then on the defensive side of the ball, it was
Speaker 1: just no question what he did in Philadelphia. Obviously, we've
Speaker 1: got to rebuild that defensive line, especially with J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt retiring, but I have confidence that we're going to
Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to do that with Monny and
Speaker 1: and JG working together. And then i'd say back, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I've fully answered the question about the secrecy
Speaker 1: of our interest in JAG. Part of what we didn't
Speaker 1: want to do was disturb any of the coaches that
Speaker 1: were in the playoffs actively. So it was not just
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon, but also lou Anna Rumo who was still
Speaker 1: participating in in the playoffs with the Cincinnati Bengals. We
Speaker 1: didn't put in their names until after they were eliminated
Speaker 1: and then and that's what we did with Jonathan, and
Speaker 1: word got out a little bit over the weekend because
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but it did. But it didn't
Speaker 1: distract him until we hit him Monday morning with the
Speaker 1: permission request to speak to him about our head coach position.
Speaker 1: His energy, I have not met him, but his energy
Speaker 1: seems off the charts. I heard somebody say the other
Speaker 1: day they were in they were in the building at
Speaker 1: like six in the morning, and they happened to walk
Speaker 1: by his office and they can hear him in They're going, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I guess he was watching film and talking himself.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was on a zoom with somebody,
Speaker 1: but he's got incredible energy. Everybody says, yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: a voice, and so he can hear him down the hall.
Speaker 1: When he's he can, he'll fill up the room. And
Speaker 1: there's just no question about it. But I think he
Speaker 1: was doing zooms because they were doing zoom interviews. Like
Speaker 1: as soon as I mean, as soon as the press
Speaker 1: conference was over, he sent his family off back to
Speaker 1: the Arizona Biltmore, where we put him up for the
Speaker 1: weekend so they can enjoy their time out here over
Speaker 1: the long weekend and and sort of celebrate their dad's success.
Speaker 1: But he was ready to go to work right away,
Speaker 1: and they did, and so he was bang, bang, bang
Speaker 1: through a bunch of back to back zooms. Was the
Speaker 1: defense versus offense? Was that even part of the conversation
Speaker 1: between you and Monty when it came to looking at
Speaker 1: head coach or it didn't matter. We want the best guy.
Speaker 1: We want the best guy. My personal you know interest,
Speaker 1: and call it a bias, was we should probably have
Speaker 1: somebody who's on the offensive side of the ball, but
Speaker 1: I want to keep an open mind. And it was
Speaker 1: pretty clear, especially when you look at the final candidates
Speaker 1: that we had. Three of them were defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball and it was just one, Mike Kafka, who
Speaker 1: was on the offensive side of the ball, because we
Speaker 1: just felt like those were the best leaders out there,
Speaker 1: those four. Do you also think there's something too if
Speaker 1: we have a defensive head coach, we're going to have
Speaker 1: somebody on the offensive side who is completely focused on
Speaker 1: Kyler and the offense and not about head coaching, managing
Speaker 1: the defense, just all the other things that go along
Speaker 1: with being a head coach. Well, I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be in the traditional head coach role. He's going
Speaker 1: to let his defensive coordinator do his thing, He's going
Speaker 1: to let his offensive coordinator do his thing, and I
Speaker 1: think he will probably spend maybe a little more time
Speaker 1: on the offense because of all the work that we
Speaker 1: need to do there to really get it right and
Speaker 1: also to man the you know, the phase in of
Speaker 1: who's starting the season will it be, will it be
Speaker 1: Kyler or not? And installing that offense. So I think
Speaker 1: and also is showing uh, not only um Drew, but
Speaker 1: also you know, our offensive coordinator, but also Kyler. Here's
Speaker 1: what I would do as a defensive coordinator to attack
Speaker 1: this offense. And I think that'll be a really important
Speaker 1: important thing to keep us sharp. You mentioned Drew Drew
Speaker 1: pets Ng thirty five years old, Nick Rowlis, twenty nine
Speaker 1: year old, defensive coordinator. I don't know if you've had
Speaker 1: a chance to get to know each guy yet. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on on those two guys? Extremely sharp, decisive,
Speaker 1: high energy guys, soldiers that are going to go out
Speaker 1: there and just absolutely execute and raise that standard that
Speaker 1: we all want. I mean, I'm I'm excited about these
Speaker 1: two leaders and and and all the other members of
Speaker 1: the staff that I've met. I think JG did a
Speaker 1: really good job because he similarly had been thinking he
Speaker 1: knew he was going to be a head coach at
Speaker 1: some point. He interviewed for it, you know, last year,
Speaker 1: and you know, he knew if he didn't get this position,
Speaker 1: he was going to be interviewing next year. He had
Speaker 1: already had it in his mind several folks that he
Speaker 1: wanted to approach, and so when he went through his plan,
Speaker 1: it was just bing, bing bing. It's interesting you've used
Speaker 1: the word leader leadership a lot in talking about all
Speaker 1: these candidates, and I think there were some times over
Speaker 1: the last few years where when things weren't going well,
Speaker 1: you know, we all kind of like, well, where is
Speaker 1: the leadership, whether it was you know, from the coaching
Speaker 1: staff or the players. So how much of you're thinking
Speaker 1: when you're going through the process of hiring a GM
Speaker 1: and a coach and then the assistance and what you're
Speaker 1: going to look at for players is hey, we need
Speaker 1: the leadership and accountability to be better in that locker room.
Speaker 1: That was the absolutely the number one thing I was
Speaker 1: focused on is, you know, lots of people can do
Speaker 1: the x's and knows it's okay. Making sure that we
Speaker 1: raise the bar here and that we are absolutely getting
Speaker 1: the players to perform at the highest level on every
Speaker 1: single play. And you know, you heard j G talk
Speaker 1: about it. Everybody is results oriented. Everybody wants you know, hey,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to win. But winning starts with the process
Speaker 1: and it's about doing a great job on Monday, doing
Speaker 1: a great job on Tuesday, doing a great job on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and everything you do builds up to Sunday, and it
Speaker 1: starts in the off season. So what he's trying to
Speaker 1: do is instill that as a culture and with our
Speaker 1: leaders in the locker room and make sure those guys
Speaker 1: take over his words and take over because he's a
Speaker 1: culture builder. There's no question about that. He did it
Speaker 1: at Philadelphia, he did it at Minnesota, and I think
Speaker 1: what you'll see is he's going to do it here
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and I think it's gonna be pretty cool
Speaker 1: to watch us unfold over the next several months. I've
Speaker 1: got one more coach question. I'm want to get to
Speaker 1: the players first. I think this has been great. I
Speaker 1: think if you're a Cardinal fan, you're very appreciative of
Speaker 1: your transparency, because this is outstanding for fans to be
Speaker 1: able to hear kind of take him inside, the information
Speaker 1: that they get that they can't get otherwise, to be
Speaker 1: able to know kind of what you were thinking when
Speaker 1: you went through the process of hiring a GM and
Speaker 1: a coach, and it's all great stuff. Jeff Rogers staying
Speaker 1: on somebody who's been Now this is the third staff
Speaker 1: he's been on. How important was that to you and
Speaker 1: to MONI to have Jeff here, given his role helping
Speaker 1: Cliff in terms of managing the clock and then also
Speaker 1: obviously being in charge of special teams. I think, and
Speaker 1: it's it's just not that Jeff Rogers who will stay
Speaker 1: on board, but there are others on the staff that
Speaker 1: will be staying on board. And I'm excited about it
Speaker 1: because he is one of the better special teams coordinators
Speaker 1: in the league. And I think, let's do what's best
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. Do what's best for us to have
Speaker 1: success on the field, and to have it right away.
Speaker 1: There was no reason to start over, you know. I
Speaker 1: was going to let jg make his decision on everybody
Speaker 1: on the staff, which he's done. But what I really
Speaker 1: wanted to do was to m you know, make sure
Speaker 1: we retain the best of the of the staff that
Speaker 1: we could. So Kyler, you talked obviously about his importance.
Speaker 1: We all know this team is going to go as
Speaker 1: far as Kyler takes him. It's how it works in
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's about the quarterback. How's his rehab going.
Speaker 1: I think his rehab is going very well. I think
Speaker 1: he's ahead of schedule and he is in here every day,
Speaker 1: and so it's been great to see him when I've
Speaker 1: been able to pull my head out of the meetings
Speaker 1: and run down and get a bite to eat, being
Speaker 1: able to stop by and see him, and he's fired up,
Speaker 1: and I know that he and JG have already kicked
Speaker 1: off a great relationship and uh, and so it's it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. How involved was Kyler? Did you pick his
Speaker 1: brain at all or tell him, Hey, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking when you're going through the process of both
Speaker 1: GM and coach. Yeah, so it was just not Kyler,
Speaker 1: but other players. I had, you know, multiple commun unications
Speaker 1: with Kyler, just not only checking in on how he's doing,
Speaker 1: but you know, he let me know who he liked,
Speaker 1: and so did other players in our locker room. You know,
Speaker 1: zach Ertz was here and heard from Buddha. I heard
Speaker 1: from quite a few of our leaders about you know,
Speaker 1: who they had worked with before, what they had been
Speaker 1: hearing and things like that. And so I just wanted
Speaker 1: to take all input and try to get a three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty degree view of every candidate, whether it
Speaker 1: was general manager or head coach. Do you think that's rare?
Speaker 1: That sounds rare to me that an owner would be
Speaker 1: not only talking sounds. You talked to other owners, you
Speaker 1: talked to other gms, you talked to obviously people within
Speaker 1: the organization. You had people that you counted on that
Speaker 1: are part of your senior staff that are not on
Speaker 1: the football side, that you had involved, and you're talking
Speaker 1: to players. I gotta think that's pretty rare. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's rare, but I just felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about due diligence, what does that mean.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, let's let's try to gather as much information.
Speaker 1: And we were doing it from from people in the
Speaker 1: football world, you know, and from NFL films to Nike
Speaker 1: to other folks that just have touch points with different
Speaker 1: people in the football world, whether it's general managers or
Speaker 1: head coaches. So we had we were taking every bit
Speaker 1: of input we could get from the league office, etc.
Speaker 1: And that's what was great about having Mark Dalton, Lisa Manning,
Speaker 1: and Seawan Mayo part of it because they all have
Speaker 1: their own networks and we were tapping into everybody's including
Speaker 1: some members of the media who had great things to
Speaker 1: say about different candidates. At this point, you mentioned Kyler's
Speaker 1: ahead of schedule. Do we have a sense of at
Speaker 1: this point, I know it's late February, the season doesn't
Speaker 1: start for a long time, but do you get a
Speaker 1: sense that he's going to be ready on this particular
Speaker 1: date or in this particular window or can't say it,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's gonna be earlier than you know,
Speaker 1: this mid season, so hopefully it's towards the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season. But you know, I don't want to put
Speaker 1: any specific dates because there could be setbacks. There could
Speaker 1: be the progress could slow. But I think right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a young man, it looks like he's
Speaker 1: a fast healer. Things are going well. Let's hope that
Speaker 1: keeps going the way it is and then that there
Speaker 1: are no setbacks as he comes back. And I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that the other areas that
Speaker 1: Moni is going to be looking at. And same thing
Speaker 1: what JG is, Okay, what is the best thing we
Speaker 1: can be doing around sports science? Our return to play,
Speaker 1: our training room and getting the players back. And we
Speaker 1: call it return to play, but it's return to practice
Speaker 1: and play. So that there are not setbacks as we
Speaker 1: get back onto the practice field, and there could be
Speaker 1: a quick ramp up period that doesn't have setbacks. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of science around that now, and I think
Speaker 1: that's an area that we're going to build out the
Speaker 1: organization as well as we go forward over the next
Speaker 1: several several weeks. What do you envision for Kyler not
Speaker 1: just for this year when he comes back, but long
Speaker 1: term with Jonathan Gannon as a head coach, true pet
Speaker 1: Sing as the offensive coordinator, in terms of maximizing his
Speaker 1: skill set, Well, I think what we're gonna do is
Speaker 1: is try to take some of the pressure off of
Speaker 1: him and then put him in position where when it's
Speaker 1: time for him to make a play, whether it's with
Speaker 1: his arm or with his feet, that he's going to
Speaker 1: be in a position to do that. But also take
Speaker 1: some of the pressure off of him. I think the
Speaker 1: way the offense was before, he had a choice on
Speaker 1: almost every play we ran, and so we were making
Speaker 1: him think too much and we were making him put
Speaker 1: too much pressure on him. And what we need him
Speaker 1: to do is to play faster and to play with
Speaker 1: that confidence that will come with Okay, I don't have
Speaker 1: to get every first down I can hand the ball off.
Speaker 1: I know they're going to put him under center quite
Speaker 1: a bit, and that's going to take some of the
Speaker 1: pressure off because the pass rushers won't be able to
Speaker 1: get after him as quickly as if he's in the gun.
Speaker 1: So I think, I think this will be a This
Speaker 1: will be good for him, and I think it'll be
Speaker 1: good for us, and I think we're gonna have more
Speaker 1: production on off It's interesting because you know Wolf. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you probably heard Wolf say it, whether it's during
Speaker 1: a broadcast round to show the blending of you know,
Speaker 1: the blending of the old and the new. Michael, I mean,
Speaker 1: you've known Wolf forever, going back to when you were
Speaker 1: a ball boy and he was a player on the
Speaker 1: team exactly. And it feels like the way Wolf looks
Speaker 1: at the game, being physical, being multiple, kind of the
Speaker 1: Eagles blueprint and how they ran their offense that in
Speaker 1: how Cleveland to Cleveland was very unique. Did a lot
Speaker 1: of under center and then you saw a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, shotgun and depending on whether it's Rosetta Watson
Speaker 1: a quarterback, do you see the Cardinals kind of being
Speaker 1: like that where it is really a true blending of
Speaker 1: the old and the new, as Wolf would say, I
Speaker 1: think so. And I also think you know, we're going
Speaker 1: to be we're gonna be not just looking at the
Speaker 1: new in the NFL, but we're gonna be looking at
Speaker 1: the new. And Jonathan Gann has said as press conference
Speaker 1: the way football is played in the NFL in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three will be different than twenty twenty two, and
Speaker 1: so you have to be adaptable. There's no question in
Speaker 1: my mind that we're going to be looking to what's
Speaker 1: done at the college game because that really helps influence
Speaker 1: the NFL game. And so they're going to be things
Speaker 1: that are being done that the players, especially this new
Speaker 1: crop of players will bring in from twenty twenty three's
Speaker 1: college classes that we're we're going to be doing a
Speaker 1: lot of things differently, and so I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing everything that's developed, especially after we finish with the
Speaker 1: draft and with free agency. So, if Kyler isn't available
Speaker 1: to start the year, what's your sense organizationally of the
Speaker 1: comfort level with Colt? Well, the Colt's coming back from
Speaker 1: an injury as well, that he is going to limit
Speaker 1: him during the off season, So I think, you know,
Speaker 1: we've got to and I'm not as dialed in on
Speaker 1: where his recovery is, so that's going to be another, um,
Speaker 1: you know, set of dynamics that that that Drew and
Speaker 1: JG are going to have to work through in terms
Speaker 1: of Okay and Monnie, you know, or we're going to
Speaker 1: definitely need a quarterback that can help us out during
Speaker 1: the the OTAs and everything, and we can't put it
Speaker 1: all on Colt when he comes back. But I know
Speaker 1: Colt can still play. I know he feels he can
Speaker 1: still play, and he's he's, he's he's he's still got
Speaker 1: a lot of gas left in the tank and I've
Speaker 1: got a lot of confidence in him. So we'll see
Speaker 1: exactly what the plan is. That's not for me to
Speaker 1: figure out. That's for those guys to figure out. But
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hearing more about it. So I'm
Speaker 1: guessing part of that plan could be free agency, could
Speaker 1: be drafting a quarterback at some point. I assume we're
Speaker 1: not ruling either of those out. I don't think we
Speaker 1: rule anything out. Yeah, No, We've got to keep all
Speaker 1: options on the table, and I know Monty and JG
Speaker 1: and Drew will be exploring that. But you know, we
Speaker 1: need to we need to see how the recoveries are
Speaker 1: coming along and then figure out what's the best option
Speaker 1: for us. Can you go back, you touch a little
Speaker 1: bit on other areas of need and some things maybe
Speaker 1: philosophically that'll be different in terms of what you guys
Speaker 1: are going to address here with free agency and drafting.
Speaker 1: What do you think is foremost? I think probably number
Speaker 1: one is the staff. Getting the staff in place, and
Speaker 1: I think we've done that. It's almost done. I would
Speaker 1: say about eighty five to ninety percent done. Then I
Speaker 1: think clearly it's offensive line defensive line. You know, we've
Speaker 1: got a lot of skill players in different positions, and
Speaker 1: then trying to figure out what we're doing around draft
Speaker 1: and free agency. But it's it's gonna be offensive line
Speaker 1: defensive line because we've got to build that offensive line
Speaker 1: so we can get back to running the ball, protecting
Speaker 1: Kyler and defensive line, especially in the NFC West, we're
Speaker 1: going to need a really good defensive line, and you know,
Speaker 1: with the retirement of JJ Watt, we've got a big
Speaker 1: hold of field there. We got to see if we
Speaker 1: can get Zach Allen resigned and which we're interested in
Speaker 1: doing and get that going. And I think he wants
Speaker 1: to be here, So I think there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of things on the to do list here. The
Speaker 1: first thing is next week is is the combine, So
Speaker 1: everybody's going to be heading back to Indianapolis for that.
Speaker 1: You talked a bunch during the multiple press conferences about
Speaker 1: being the best team in the division, you know sometimes,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've heard you say that all
Speaker 1: the time. I don't know if that's something that's always
Speaker 1: been because obviously, you win your division, you get in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, anything can happen. Has that always been your focus? Hey,
Speaker 1: we got to look at the other three organizations and
Speaker 1: say how can we be the best of those four
Speaker 1: as opposed to looking at the other thirty one organizations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it all starts in the division. If you
Speaker 1: can win your division, then you host a home playoff game,
Speaker 1: and if you're really good, then you get a chance
Speaker 1: to have a buy that super wild card weekend. And
Speaker 1: so what the whole plan is if we really are
Speaker 1: serious about, you know, winning, we've got to be able
Speaker 1: to win the NFC West and that's a tall order.
Speaker 1: There's some great coaches, great quarterbacks, and great players and
Speaker 1: teams and organizations and so we've got to build an
Speaker 1: outstanding organization here, which I think we're doing so. Over
Speaker 1: the last you know, month and a half, you've been,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned the top of the podcast, as busy
Speaker 1: as is anybody in sports. M the Super Bowl week.
Speaker 1: What were some of the highlights for you, h, Not
Speaker 1: just you know, the interview process with with Monty and
Speaker 1: then you know, leaning up to look into the candidates
Speaker 1: for head coach, but in terms of the event itself,
Speaker 1: what were some of the highlights for you? Wow? There
Speaker 1: were so many, Um, you know, I think, uh, it
Speaker 1: was great to be able to be a part of
Speaker 1: many different meals, luncheons, dinners and things along those lines. Um.
Speaker 1: You know. First was Thursday, the Fritz Polder Alliance had
Speaker 1: their awards luncheon. It was great to see so many
Speaker 1: leaders in that room. H Friday was the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame luncheon where they honored my grandmother, Violet Bidwell, the
Speaker 1: first female owner in NFL history and h one of
Speaker 1: the first in the world, and celebrate her and her success.
Speaker 1: And then I'd say, you know, just being able to
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of friends come in town. We
Speaker 1: had a blast, you know, little bits of time on
Speaker 1: Friday night and Saturday night as well, but you know,
Speaker 1: seeing all the other owners. We hosted a dinner party
Speaker 1: down at the Science Center in downtown Phoenix and had
Speaker 1: a huge tent and had all the teams there, the commissioner,
Speaker 1: the leaders of all the different networks and some of
Speaker 1: the Cardinals partners as well. There had a beautiful dinner
Speaker 1: and that that was one where Missy Gaspard and the
Speaker 1: rest of the you know, the event's crew here helped
Speaker 1: plan that dinner. And then we went across the street
Speaker 1: inside of the Phoenix Convention Center for the post party,
Speaker 1: which was we had a party and that was I
Speaker 1: called Lisa Mannings Party. That's so we had a fantastic party.
Speaker 1: I believe you were there, I think because we invited
Speaker 1: the whole staff. I know, I was in EUGENEO. I
Speaker 1: went from New Orleans to gene Oregon and got back
Speaker 1: like late because yeah, I'm sorry, that's that time of
Speaker 1: year with college basketball, NBA everything else going on. Good
Speaker 1: problem to have. But Gwen Stefanie was our entertainment and
Speaker 1: she just rocked it out. It was awesome, and so
Speaker 1: we had a great time Saturday night and then game Day.
Speaker 1: The whole weekend was beautiful. The other thing that I
Speaker 1: had the honor of doing again was participating as Vice
Speaker 1: Chairman of the Arizona Commerce Authority in our Visiting CEO program.
Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, Governor Doocey and I teamed up invited
Speaker 1: fifty different companies that were seriously about expanding or relocating
Speaker 1: to Arizona. We landed twenty of those fifty companies, over
Speaker 1: two billion dollars of investment, tens of thousands of employees
Speaker 1: at high paying jobs with benefits. This time around, I
Speaker 1: teamed up with Governor Katie Hobbs and we I think
Speaker 1: we had seventy CEOs this time around, same visits CEO program,
Speaker 1: with different with different companies this time around, and I
Speaker 1: felt really good. Saturday afternoon, she and I and Sandra Watson,
Speaker 1: who heads up the Arizona Commerce Authority, we had what
Speaker 1: I call corporate speed dating, and it was twenty minute
Speaker 1: meetings with multiple companies, trying to pitch them to come
Speaker 1: to Arizona. What can we do to close out this deal?
Speaker 1: And so I think we're going to land a bunch
Speaker 1: of those I felt really good about those meetings. Governor Hobbs,
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a background in economic development, did a
Speaker 1: great job in those meetings helping us. You know, it's
Speaker 1: the sales pitch. It's like corporate free agency. It's you know,
Speaker 1: you're trying to love up on these folks and get
Speaker 1: them to commit to Arizona. So I think we're going
Speaker 1: to land a bunch of those. So that was another
Speaker 1: big highlight of the weekend. And then the game was
Speaker 1: amazing Rihanna's halftime show. The stadium looked beautiful. There were
Speaker 1: so many good things that happened there. We had so
Speaker 1: many great leaders and partners in the building, and I
Speaker 1: think the campus looked amazing. Sportsman's Park at State Farm Stadium,
Speaker 1: it was just so much bigger than it was in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, probably three times the amount of parties happening
Speaker 1: on the campus there. It was amazing. You've hosted multiple
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I assume you want to and will host more.
Speaker 1: And obviously one of the draws for the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: is the stadium. How have you been able to keep
Speaker 1: it modern? The investments that you guys have been able
Speaker 1: to make and will continue to make in the stadium
Speaker 1: so since twenty fifteen, we've made over two hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars worth of investments. And when these investments are all
Speaker 1: about fan experience. So it's upgrading the Wi Fi to
Speaker 1: the latest technology. It's installing five G capability inside the
Speaker 1: stadium and outside the stadium, the parking lots, the Great Lawn,
Speaker 1: the South Lawn, everywhere. It is modifying some of the
Speaker 1: sidewalks to make it easier to get into into the stadium.
Speaker 1: It's upgrading the security, it's upgrading the sound system. We
Speaker 1: invested in the Great Lawn to create a fan pavilion
Speaker 1: out with permanent restrooms and a beer garden. We a
Speaker 1: lot of talk last year around the bed MGM Sportsbook,
Speaker 1: the first NFL stadium, So we built new buildings. We
Speaker 1: invested in the pregame experience. We've invested in the in
Speaker 1: game experience, new video boards. I mean two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: We you know, there's more to be done, and we'll
Speaker 1: continue to upgrade and make the fan game day experience
Speaker 1: and the pregame experience to be the best it can be.
Speaker 1: And we're an organization. There's some sports teams out there
Speaker 1: that you know, let their buildings fall behind. We're one
Speaker 1: that constantly is investing in it. And I know our
Speaker 1: fans recognize it because they see it. And it's just
Speaker 1: not upgrading the club area or the suites where the
Speaker 1: high end customers are, but it's the entire experience. Anybody
Speaker 1: that's coming into that venue is noticed the big upgrades
Speaker 1: that we've made throughout the entire building and the entire
Speaker 1: parking lot area around the stadium. Well, somebody that is
Speaker 1: in a lot of stadiums, a lot of I see
Speaker 1: the ones that do lag behind that start out great.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying this because you're sitting right here,
Speaker 1: but it State Farm Stadium remains at the top in
Speaker 1: terms of the venues that I that I see, and
Speaker 1: I see NBA College Football and obviously all the NFL ones.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I think I think we've done a
Speaker 1: great job of literally keeping up with the Joneses to
Speaker 1: the other stadium I like, is is the one in Minneapolis,
Speaker 1: the Viking Stadium is US Bank Stadium is amazing as well,
Speaker 1: and Las Vegas Allegiant Stadium is awesome. But there's no
Speaker 1: better stadium than State Farm Stadium, especially when the Red
Speaker 1: Sea is rocking and We're going to get back to that.
Speaker 1: Winning football games at home is extremely important to me,
Speaker 1: and that was something that I really emphasized with jg
Speaker 1: and with Monni. We're going to get back to that. Well,
Speaker 1: this has been great again. I think if you're a
Speaker 1: Cardinal fan, you're excited. I said in one of the
Speaker 1: interviews I did early on and they asked me about,
Speaker 1: you know, my thoughts. I said, you know, I think
Speaker 1: Michael made a pretty big statement going outside the organization
Speaker 1: for a general manager, the hiring of Jgum. I think
Speaker 1: if you're a Cardinal fan, you've got to be excited
Speaker 1: about the direction that Michael's not messing around. I guess
Speaker 1: is how I put it. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: noise out there, Dave, and you saw some of the stuff.
Speaker 1: It was just nonsense that people just you know, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, and we ignored it and it was like,
Speaker 1: we weren't going to hit the easy button. We were
Speaker 1: going to make sure that we did what we needed
Speaker 1: to do to make the best decisions for this organization
Speaker 1: going forward. And I think we did and time will tell,
Speaker 1: but I'm excited about the start we're off too. Now. Well,
Speaker 1: I know fans appreciate that and also are appreciative of
Speaker 1: your candor today. Thanks Mike, appreciate you, appreciate Dave Wow.
Speaker 1: A lot to unpack from our conversation with Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: owner Michael Bidwill. Again, if you're a Cardinal fan, I
Speaker 1: think you really appreciate the candor, the honesty, the transparency
Speaker 1: about the past, present and future of the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I think the whole process of the draft that's going
Speaker 1: to change over the next few years that really stood
Speaker 1: out to me. And they're change in philosophy from what
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had been doing to what they're going to
Speaker 1: be doing going forward, which mirrors what the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots have done and been so successful at over the
Speaker 1: last two decades. The update on Kyler Murray's health was newsworthy,
Speaker 1: as well as the fact that Colt McCoy is going
Speaker 1: to be limited during the off season and that could
Speaker 1: necessitate something through either the draft or free agency in
Speaker 1: terms of bringing in another quarterback to get the Cardinals
Speaker 1: through the off season. Again, appreciate Michael's time and hopefully
Speaker 1: if you're a Cardinal fan, you got a lot out
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