WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Ups & Downs

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in fris Jo. Saw and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback,

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<v Speaker 1>heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful Wednesday edition Talking Cowboys. We are here, I

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<v Speaker 1>promise God, Oh my goodness, he is speechless for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time it is. I am, I'm straight speechless. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you even need my slors to see that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy? That's crazy good, that's gracious. Let's okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna redo this all right. It is a Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Talking Cowboys on the air here on Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot Com. So glad everybody's been able to join us,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully you'll learn something here over the next hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've already learned a couple of things in

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<v Speaker 1>the last five minutes. Heck Harrison, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kyle Yeoman's is. We've got a ton to catch

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<v Speaker 1>up on. I feel like over the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>good and bad around the Dallas Cowboys. Where do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys want to start. I'll let you guys get the option.

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<v Speaker 1>We go on with the good or the bat to

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<v Speaker 1>start some good man a positive twenty one, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty Devil's advocate. I like that. I like that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. So we're gonna start with the positive. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of those positives was that Mike McCarthy just said it,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was kind of what I think all of

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<v Speaker 1>us were thinking on or excuse me, yesterday. That might

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<v Speaker 1>have been the best practice we've seen for the Dallas Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>especially without Dak Prescott throughout training camp. Cooper Rush had

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice practice overall, and of course we had

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<v Speaker 1>an extended conversation about the backup quarterback position on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rob, I'll start with you, what did you see

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<v Speaker 1>out of yesterday's practice and what do you expect moving

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<v Speaker 1>into today? Actually I thought he said it wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>a good Proc said it was was not. He said

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush had a solid day, okay, working with the ones,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was good. We saw the touchdown pass late

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<v Speaker 1>to Amari Cooper. That was a heck of a catch

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<v Speaker 1>time by number nineteen. And if you want to go positive.

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<v Speaker 1>We're starting positive, ya Zak Prescott's going to do more

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<v Speaker 1>in practice today. That's huge. He's going to do some

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<v Speaker 1>competitive stuff. Isaiah. Seven on seven heck, yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about team, but hey, beyond just individual throwing, which

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<v Speaker 1>we saw more of yesterday. So that's a positive from

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<v Speaker 1>number four QB one. So he said, he said seven

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<v Speaker 1>on seven work. He didn't. He didn't elaborate on team.

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<v Speaker 1>He just said yes over in terms of competitive throwing

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<v Speaker 1>for Dad today. Yeah, And you know, to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't even done seven on seven since July twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a it's a step forward, and they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this very intentionally. This is something he could have done

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<v Speaker 1>a while back. They're just being very very careful with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we saw pre game Saturday night, he can

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<v Speaker 1>make all the throws. I don't think that's a concern

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<v Speaker 1>right now, is Jerry said on the fan yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah has been saying this. It's it's something you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure doesn't carry into beyond week one when

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<v Speaker 1>he plays the opener. Isaiah, Yeah, no, I mean that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're doing it the right way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you while you have the time to ensure that

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<v Speaker 1>he is as healthy as he can be going into

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<v Speaker 1>the season, you want to you know, error on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of caution. So they're doing the exact right thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which we know that they have the best, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the if not the best, he probably you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best training staffs in this entire league.

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<v Speaker 1>So they know exactly what they're doing. They're prepared. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the practice yesterday for for Cooper Rush, he

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<v Speaker 1>did look good, and I think you look good when

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<v Speaker 1>you're behind the number one offensive line. And as much

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<v Speaker 1>as Cooper Rush looked good, let's just talk about Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert's confidence going in the trash can right now. He

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like a guy that his confidence is shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talk about him and the job being his

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<v Speaker 1>to lose. I think he's lost it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just because of his confidence. Now, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how coaches do. They'll mess with your confidence, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>yank you, they'll make you feel like you don't have anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to build yourself back up just to

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<v Speaker 1>see if you have the mental for the two to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. And I think Garret Gilbert, for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the OTAs, and even through training camp, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of smelly stickers and smelly stickers back.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been getting those smelly stickers, and then he has

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<v Speaker 1>that first quarter where it's like whoa, he gets yanked.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush comes in, he throws some good balls, and

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<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, everybody is turning those smelly

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<v Speaker 1>stickers over to Cooper Rush, talking about him and having

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<v Speaker 1>a good practice yesterday. Ain't throwing dimes to Mark Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I just want to see Double G

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<v Speaker 1>get back in it because I still feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>I just still feel like he's better than Cooper Rush.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just my evaluation of the two quarterbacks so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is one of the few times that

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<v Speaker 1>you can say, and you know, obviously you know coach

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<v Speaker 1>just alluded to it in this press conference, but that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going into the fourth gaming and you're undecided on

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<v Speaker 1>your back up. I think this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few times that you could probably look back in history

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<v Speaker 1>and say, we don't know who our number two is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that is very much so the case.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a very important game obviously for Rush,

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<v Speaker 1>but Double G you know, can you snapback? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>playing games or have you really lost some lost some

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<v Speaker 1>tread right, you lost some confidence and the players have

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<v Speaker 1>lost some confidence. We've already talked about that. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>giving Cooper Rushing an opportunity to go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>make some plays. Sneaky. You know, it's like, as this

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<v Speaker 1>is when it gets real. This is when you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>when as fans you got understand that this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is a team. However, there's a lot of individual battles

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<v Speaker 1>going on, right, So you're you're fighting for yourself. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>not get this confused. You were the team starts with Ie.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's no Ie, there's no team, because the team

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<v Speaker 1>is a collection of eyes, right, So you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go out there, you have to compete for yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>in the process you hope that you can obviously make

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<v Speaker 1>some some donations to the team. It is interesting because, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Dak pulls himself out of practice July twenty eight, So

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<v Speaker 1>from like July twenty ninth till August twentieth, it's Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>Rush is taking the second team reps, and it's Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert pretty much all the first team reps. Kyle Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>in Ox and hard carrying over to here, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden we get to the game and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to balance it out a little bit. Soble

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<v Speaker 1>gave a reason, right, Double G gave them a reason

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<v Speaker 1>to look at Rush a little bit more intentfully that

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<v Speaker 1>that was on Double G's fault. That was his fault.

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<v Speaker 1>He For those who've never seen the Friday and then

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<v Speaker 1>the movie Friday, Debo used to creep in the window

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<v Speaker 1>if you left the window open, right that the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>bully was. The name was Debo. He would live you

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<v Speaker 1>left the window cracked open. He coming through that dog

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<v Speaker 1>on the door. I come through that window. Cooper Rush, Debot,

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush creeping in the window. Just be realistic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's this is a preface with God forbid, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but God forbid if something happens where you start the

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<v Speaker 1>season with Russia as your backup and he has to

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<v Speaker 1>go in at Tampa. If I mean, like I say,

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<v Speaker 1>God forbid, Gud's why y'all looking at me like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, just feel like you're putting it out

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<v Speaker 1>in the opening. Well, what I'm saying, but I'm actually saying,

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<v Speaker 1>is from what coach McCarthy is saying, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>dealing in the reality of that that if that is

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<v Speaker 1>what you have to if that's going to be your

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<v Speaker 1>second quarterback, then he's not confident in it. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to dabble in that. You have to think that way,

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<v Speaker 1>just the way that the world is working the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, because if not, you're going to be underprepared.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to be prepared for something. If something

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<v Speaker 1>were to happen to Dak Prescott, you gotta have some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of security, and right now I don't think you do.

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<v Speaker 1>And the crazy thing is is kind of going back

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<v Speaker 1>to what Isaiah was saying with keeping that that window cracked.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that had to happen at least the moment when

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff said, hey, Gary Gilbert's giving us a

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<v Speaker 1>reason to look at Cooper Rush a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>That had to happen before the Texans game. It had

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<v Speaker 1>to happen well before that. No, I think Cooper Rush

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<v Speaker 1>has been practicing well now that he's a little healthier

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<v Speaker 1>than he was early in camp. I think that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I don't think it's all double G not

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<v Speaker 1>doing enough, sure, but I do think one other thing

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<v Speaker 1>to remember if y'all watched Hard Knocks last night, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know I caught it the end Mike McCarthy. He

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<v Speaker 1>said in the press conference after the game, but also

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. The turnover margin, like he is

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<v Speaker 1>not happy with that. Benda Nucci throws three picks they

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<v Speaker 1>had they were minus four in the game. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest problem this team had last year, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest problems. And Cooper Rush has done a better

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<v Speaker 1>job of taking here to care of the ball at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. And if you're if you're coming in as

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<v Speaker 1>the backup quarterback, that's number one is don't make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to be able to make plays, but you

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<v Speaker 1>got to be able to get your team in the

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<v Speaker 1>right plays the right situations and don't turn it over.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's probably the best thing Cooper Rush does. In

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<v Speaker 1>addition to being comfortable with the alf you're saying, Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>Rush acknowledge what the most important thing to his coach was.

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<v Speaker 1>He chose to make sure that he that he tends

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<v Speaker 1>to those needs he has to this point. Um, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't throw one up for grabs before halftime, thank you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's I think he's just done the better job

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<v Speaker 1>of the three in that regard, in the reps that

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<v Speaker 1>they've all had to this point. To this point, defense,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still laughing about the defenses. Will defenses will bum

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<v Speaker 1>rush us. I mean, if we start if either one though, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean either one. It's either one, yeah, either one

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<v Speaker 1>either We've we've all said this. I think we I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think any of us truly believe that our backup

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is on this roster, right, not anymore? Well I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that way going in. I was, well, I never yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought that our backup quarterback was on this roster.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we're seeing things happen around the league, there

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<v Speaker 1>are other teams like as I mentioned right, as we

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<v Speaker 1>get closer here, less and less opportunities to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and grab somebody. I mean, we saw what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with Atlanta who they wouldn't got, and they just let

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<v Speaker 1>you know. There's not a lot out there in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of quarterbacks. So we have to figure this out and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna come down to this game. I was very

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<v Speaker 1>bullish on Oh on our guy. I mean I was

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<v Speaker 1>I thought DOUBLEG had something. Wow, I was. I meant,

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<v Speaker 1>but you still think wow, right, I still still think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a better I do. You just wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>triple G. They ain't going triple It's going And I

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<v Speaker 1>even called g wagon. You know it's going back. Why

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it always the backup quarterbacks that we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to make the best names for him? Man? Yeah? Like

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<v Speaker 1>why is it Nucci Man and Ducci? Nucci? And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Man, I acknowledge, I acknowledge the efforts of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys, Both of these guys. I acknowledge their efforts,

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<v Speaker 1>and they I think they've both done a tremendous job competing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not they are not of the caliber of what

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<v Speaker 1>we need coming off of what we faced last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's fact. I thought we were starting on something

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<v Speaker 1>positive and we did start star we started there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is the reality. This is the reality. This

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<v Speaker 1>is this is our reality. Two weeks from tomorrow, two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks from tomorrow, we're playing the best team in world

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<v Speaker 1>as a last year, Yes, and we're not secure in

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<v Speaker 1>this particular position. If something drastic was to happen, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I and I'm with you, like, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>shocked if they don't do their diligence and look around

0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.880
<v Speaker 1>once cuts happen and all that stuff, I'm not convinced

0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that they won't just stick with what they have. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean because that's a possibility. Yeah, because because even

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<v Speaker 1>if they did get somebody, are they prepared for that game? Right?

0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.959
<v Speaker 1>There's that too. Yeah, There's so many different aspects that

0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.480
<v Speaker 1>go into it. And you want one of those three

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<v Speaker 1>guys to win the job. And I guess now you

0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.840
<v Speaker 1>can kind of dwindle it down to two, but you

0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.920
<v Speaker 1>want one of those two guys to win the job.

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<v Speaker 1>And because it saves you money, it saves you hardach,

0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it saves you preparation time, and you want Cooper Rusher

0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Garrett Gilbert to be that guy. So we've talked enough

0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.319
<v Speaker 1>about the backup quarterback position, I think over last episode

0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and then in moving into today, But we do have

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<v Speaker 1>some not so good news to report. The Cowboys added

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more players to the COVID nineteen protocol. Demonte

0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Kay was a part of that. So was Connor Williams,

0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.079
<v Speaker 1>who we've already seen needed the reps in terms of

0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:10.559
<v Speaker 1>his new responsibilities on the offensive line. Adds to quite

0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the extensive list. Now what is it now? Six players?

0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Rob and then Dan Quinn a part of that as well. Yeah,

0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:20.440
<v Speaker 1>six players, Um, you mentioned Kazy Connor Williams, Malie Cooker,

0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Israel mcquamo, Ceedee Lamb, and Carlos Watkins who did not

0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.199
<v Speaker 1>play Sun Saturday and left the stadium early along with

0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn. So I think Mike McCarthy told us yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>that two players were close contacts. So it's it's it's

0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a confusing deal because there's different Yeah, I mean, it's it.

0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Mike said it like there's different variables and different rules

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<v Speaker 1>for players and staff based on their vaccination status and

0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.079
<v Speaker 1>whether the close contact and all those things. So to

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<v Speaker 1>really know when when guys are going to be eligible

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<v Speaker 1>to come back, it just depends, and they're not really

0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.440
<v Speaker 1>disclosing that they're I can read you some of these rules,

0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:01.920
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if anybody wants to hear all that.

0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.160
<v Speaker 1>But now let's let's listen to it. I want to

0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.800
<v Speaker 1>hear it, Okay, I mean, here's this is from the league.

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<v Speaker 1>If a vaccinated I think Mickey found this for me.

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<v Speaker 1>If a vaccinated person test positive and it's asymptomatic, they're

0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:18.480
<v Speaker 1>isolated contact tracing, Uh, they're permitted to return after two

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<v Speaker 1>negative tests at least twenty four hours apart, and be

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<v Speaker 1>tested every two weeks or as directed by medical stats.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're vaccinated, you're not subject to quarantine as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of a close contact. Um. Okay, So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>unvaccinated and you test positive, same protocols from twenty twenty,

0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.959
<v Speaker 1>isolated for ten days, and if you're asymptomatic, then can

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<v Speaker 1>return unvaccinated, subject to five day quarantine if they have

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<v Speaker 1>close contact with someone. So it just depends and and

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<v Speaker 1>and what what's you know now? Like I said, I

0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.520
<v Speaker 1>said it, we're only a few days now from the opener,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got multiple guys in this in this protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's it's it's tough because you're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to feel like this is twenty twenty again, where you

0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.440
<v Speaker 1>know they're trying to manage this and they're back in

0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.080
<v Speaker 1>virtual mode again today with their meetings, they are practicing today,

0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and Mike said, they're you know, their plan is to

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<v Speaker 1>play this game, but your hope that there's nothing else

0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that happens tomorrow, because every day it's kind of been

0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.560
<v Speaker 1>something new. And you even look at last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course twenty twenty was crazy for everybody, more so

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<v Speaker 1>than some, more so than others. But there's more people

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<v Speaker 1>in the COVID protocol now than there was last year

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<v Speaker 1>at any point, right, I mean, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>as big of an outbreak. I hate using that word,

0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.720
<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of what it is. That's what he said. Yeah,

0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it was his direct quote, but I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>as much of an outbreak as the Cowboys have had

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with. Yeah, and the NFL did not help

0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.040
<v Speaker 1>anything this year. They made it more complicated than it's

0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:49.760
<v Speaker 1>ever been. Obviously, we've been dealing with this for the

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<v Speaker 1>last year. So now that you have all these different

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<v Speaker 1>statuses and levels, and you know, they created this division

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<v Speaker 1>where you're if you're vaccinated, it's this treatment. If you're

0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.240
<v Speaker 1>not vaccinated as this treatment. You know, you don't want

0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to see anybody. You don't want to see this virus

0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.040
<v Speaker 1>going room. You don't want to see the virus going around.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is it is going around. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>we wish it was clear cut in terms of, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the virus, this is what happens, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of what your status is, regardless, but it's not that simple,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's really complicated things, and it's made

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<v Speaker 1>it more difficult for organizations to handle now because of

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<v Speaker 1>the rules that they've set in stone. Now they have

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to contact tracing. Okay, how you distinguish

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<v Speaker 1>whether the unvaccinated person had it first or the vaccinated

0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.840
<v Speaker 1>person had it first? Like? Okay? And then now if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can't play the game, whose fault is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the vaccinated persons fause? Is unvaccinated person's fault?

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<v Speaker 1>You forfeit? Yeah? Do you do not happen? Do your

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<v Speaker 1>organization and the organization lose their checks? Or does this

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<v Speaker 1>person have to go sit in the room for five days?

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<v Speaker 1>It does that person sitting room for ten days? It's

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<v Speaker 1>beyond confusing now. I think they've made more of an

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<v Speaker 1>issue of it now than it was last year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree with you. Okay, And I feel as though

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL has tried to incentivize team to have the

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<v Speaker 1>facilities vaccinated. I think as a business they realize that

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<v Speaker 1>their business model is struggling because of twenty twenty, because

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<v Speaker 1>of the amount because of COVID. You're not able to

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<v Speaker 1>have people in the stands. You're not You're you're canceling

0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.040
<v Speaker 1>games you're having to reschedule. They can't do that with

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen game season. They put the protocol out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You have teams that are one hundred percent vaccinator, you

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<v Speaker 1>have teams that are seventy eighty percent vaccinated. The way

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<v Speaker 1>that they're making the rules for teams and their guys

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<v Speaker 1>to try and put this COVID, this virus behind us,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is it's smart in a way. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>you can't judge a whole league that's trying to find

0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a solution for a global problem. This is what this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're dealing with. And now that people are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to self diagnose or tell themselves how they can

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<v Speaker 1>deal with this, the NFL said, no, we're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>these rules out here in black and white, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the way that it's going to go. And it

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<v Speaker 1>may not be perfect, and it didn't all happen in

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<v Speaker 1>the vacuum, but we're dealing with this as a society,

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<v Speaker 1>and smarter people have to come together and say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how when we're talking about football, when I

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<v Speaker 1>talking about society, how do we get the brand of

0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:15.200
<v Speaker 1>football to go forward post pandemic. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone has anything smart to say please send it to

0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. But I think for the from the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and the owner standpoint, I have to push my guys

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<v Speaker 1>to be vaccinated because that is the road of least

0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.160
<v Speaker 1>resistance for us to get this league going forward. Right now,

0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.879
<v Speaker 1>you can't go forward because everything is so convoluted with

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that refuse to take the vaccine. And again

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole nother issue, and we're gonna take up

0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole show based off of that. But I just

0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's just my that's just my angle. And now it's

0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.080
<v Speaker 1>very well said, very well said from your point, because

0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.040
<v Speaker 1>there is no cut and dry answer, and you got

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<v Speaker 1>to find a way what's best for you, your organization,

0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and the league as a whole to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>further the sport. That's bar nutt. One other thing. As

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<v Speaker 1>of Saturday, the Cowboys announced nine the rosters vaccinated, so

0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.399
<v Speaker 1>vast majority, only handful of players are not. So you know,

0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.159
<v Speaker 1>your hope would be guys that have tested positive that

0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.600
<v Speaker 1>are on this COVID list. Hopefully, hopefully everybody feels better soon.

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<v Speaker 1>If they do have symptoms that can get back relatively quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see um. But in the meantime for practice they had.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an issue yesterday and it's an issue again

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<v Speaker 1>today even more so. Down to four safeties on the

0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.880
<v Speaker 1>roster they're practicing today and Trayvon Diggs at the cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>position not practicing because of a non COVID illness. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just coming in. Mike McCarthy's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, man, this is just my team can't catch

0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a break. But you know, when Wilson's got a growing injury.

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<v Speaker 1>To the positive to all this, right, this is all

0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.719
<v Speaker 1>very frustrating and all that, But the positive this, if

0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.719
<v Speaker 1>this is going to happen, you much rather happened two

0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.000
<v Speaker 1>weeks before your game, no doubt, no doubt if it

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<v Speaker 1>was going more than two weeks before. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're at two weeks tomorrow, so there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of time for week one and whenever the game's count

0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to really get back to full strength. It's but it's

0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's go time now to contain it. So

0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 1>lots of pressure on the Cowboys, not only on the

0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 1>field but off the field as well. But I'm tired

0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of talking about that stuff. I'm tired. I'm so done

0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:16.719
<v Speaker 1>with it. I know people at home are tired of

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:18.840
<v Speaker 1>listening to it. It's a news story and we gotta

0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.360
<v Speaker 1>hit it. We have to. But I mean it's affecting

0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the team right now, the meeting. It's affecting practice in

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.360
<v Speaker 1>terms of numbers. I mean, it's just it's like injuries.

0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's the same, it's the same deal. It's

0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.800
<v Speaker 1>still it's a scary virus going around. Man, Yeah, it is.

0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.320
<v Speaker 1>It's scary. We so we've We've done our due diligence.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about it. So now let's move on and

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<v Speaker 1>let's be happy. What's what's one of the happiest things

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<v Speaker 1>about this about this team this year? It's the wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver group and that Amari Cooper is coming back and

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<v Speaker 1>he's fully healthy. We're gonna talk about Amari Cooper and

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<v Speaker 1>what we saw from Cooper in this wide receiving Corps

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<v Speaker 1>We got a comment from the other day. It was

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was basically you've got called a weirdo? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it was. Yeah. They were like they were

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<v Speaker 1>It's a part of the bit, it's part of the fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't listen to that. It's okay, you don't listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Twitter. If I did, Bro, we appreciate everybody on Twitter. Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it was Tony, Who's Who's a very loyal listener

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<v Speaker 1>and a great cow I trusted, trusted. Yeah, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you are crazy. By the way, Since since Shannon has

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<v Speaker 1>been tooting the Horn of Hanging with the Boys is

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<v Speaker 1>the most searched What's Up Cowboys podcast on YouTube whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to find whatever card he can hold

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<v Speaker 1>on to. I just want to throw it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Most used audio on Hard Knocks goes to this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like a five nothing lead on the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the other shows too. Yeah, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkle that on Yeah, Yeah, let's just throw that up there.

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>But just leave it up there. Yeah there. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary coming out this week too, where it's all

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<v Speaker 1>only a talking cowboys voice on that. But it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be six nothing past. Here's the thing about that, Like Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>when Shannon makes that statement about it being the most

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<v Speaker 1>searched it was when he wasn't on the show. Wow, wow, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Really that's a dub for us to say it loud

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<v Speaker 1>for people in the back. Heck, I'm just saying in

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<v Speaker 1>a green shirt. Oh heck was wearing a green shirt

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you listening to just be all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about wide receivers and Amari Cooper because let's

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 1>let's take a little uptick we're trying to here. We

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>do love Shannon Mark Cooper back out of practice. Of course,

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>last week there was a big feature on him on

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Hard Knocks, kind of getting back into the mix. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yesterday just made a fantastic grab off a

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>throw from Amari Cooper. Heck, when you were out of practice,

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>what did you see from Amara yesterday? Outside of the

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.959
<v Speaker 1>fantastic grab, man, We have to start putting some respect

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>on that man's name. I know we are all waiting

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 1>for CD Lamb to emerge as what we believe he's

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be. But Amari Cooper is that right now, today, today,

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.360
<v Speaker 1>right now? That would be to nitty if I could

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.479
<v Speaker 1>combine a word on this show, and that's what he is.

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this guy even a Hard Knocks. This is

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>a part and Hard Knocks. If you didn't watch it,

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it was just awesome him just being big mentoring,

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>being big brother to CD and just showing him his

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>release and man, just the way that he's putting this

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>moves together his whole career. I think that's the part

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that and I've even, you know, kind of fallen into

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that whole argument about number one number two. He's he's

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 1>the alpha though he's he's number one. And he ran

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>a fade route yesterday versus did God bless Trayvon Diggs.

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>He came up a little gimpy at the end of

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the play. It was his ankle, Okay, it was his ankle, yeah,

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>but he faded him. Boy, he faded him on the face.

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, he lost him. Trayvon said, he pushed off.

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's what what was that? That guy from Utah.

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>He always says that Jordan pushed off too. But the

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Gatorade commercial is still the same Bryan Russell Russell, Ye,

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:46.120
<v Speaker 1>still the same. Cornerbacks say the receivers say that they

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>hold it's just it's it's it's kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah,

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it is. Is where does Samari rank in terms of

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the best route runners you've ever seen Isaiah because he's

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is as clean of a route runner

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<v Speaker 1>as you could potentially get to. I mean he is

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<v Speaker 1>a top elite echelon of of what that what that

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<v Speaker 1>is as a receiver. I think about that one. I mean,

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely up there in terms of the league right now.

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Over the overall, you know, you got guys that come

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>to mind, like Julio, Like Julio, Like Julio is a

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>freaking doctor. You know, um Ridley stupid, stupid, I mean,

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>you know so, I mean, you gotta there's a handful

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of guys that runs some amazing routes. Of footwork is

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of ridiculous, and it's really become a focal point

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>in the off season. I think he used to be

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<v Speaker 1>taking for granted that receivers just had good footwork, and

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>now over the past years, I don't know if it's

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>social media somebody's foot specialists that are on social media now,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but you find a lot of guys going to find

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>these these foot specialists. I mean, even Zeke this offseason.

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why his footworking proved. He found somebody who who

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>works specifically on things that he that he wasn't naturally

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>good at, so um people are taking a lot more

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>seriously now. But in terms of just his experience and

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 1>where he stands in the league right now, I think

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you have to put him in the top five that

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<v Speaker 1>can see top five, maybe guys like Justin Jefferson in

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>there as well as a young guy Fonte Adams. Got

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to put him up there, way up there. There's a

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of good, really good receivers in his league, and

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Amari takes so much pride in it too. You know.

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I think he talked about something last week how he's

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>a quiet guy and he doesn't like how people think it.

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>It translates, oh, he doesn't care. You know. He takes

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>offense to that. And if you listen to him talk

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>about running routes, like in the locker room before when

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>we could go in the locker room before COVID, he

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>would talk about running routes like like it's art, like

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>it's painting on a canvas or something like he loves

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it more than anything. And so he just takes a

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of pride in it and it shows for sure.

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>And you saw that in the Heart Knocks episode as well.

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean one on one with Ceedee Lamb and showing

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>him exactly how to get up off the Linus scrimmage,

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>how to kind of fake one way go to the

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>other way, I mean, and Cede was soaking it all

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>in if you're going to get a master class and

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>running round. So Marie Cooper is the one that you

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>want teaching and I know him just a physical aspect,

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the mental side of what he was coaching

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 1>CD on. You know, he was teaching CD this is

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>what they're thinking, right, They naturally have an instinct to

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>do this right. So these are the things that you

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>have to take into consideration when you're running your releases.

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's not only the physical side of his helping

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>CD's physical approach to the line of scrimmage, but it's

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>also the mental and that's what's going to be a

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>huge leap in CD's development. And Isaia, I'm sure you

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>can speak to this being in film study and you're

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>sitting there, you're going over the seven H sevens and

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>one on ones and you're with that clicker in your hand.

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>You can slow that thing down and see what Amark

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Cooper is doing. So that's in the DV room that's

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>in the word wide receiving rooms. They see what number

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen is doing out there. There's there's no replacement to

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>having to having a respective veteran receiver teaching you not

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>only you know how to run routes right and some

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of the some of the savvy moves, you know, the

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.239
<v Speaker 1>end of the outs, to releases, all that stuff, but

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>also your mental approach. And like I can remember my

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>time when I was learning from Teo or you know,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Crayton or Terry Glenn or even when I went

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to New England, I was learning from Randy Moss and Westwoker,

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Like these dudes can run some routes now, and just

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>to watch how they how they were already ahead of

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the game, just by how guys lined up right when

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>they when they line up in the line of scrimmage.

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>There was times where Westwood, Westwood freaking change our release.

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>We're supposed to have a certain release, and he would

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>put himself in motion just to gain leverage come back,

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and on his way back from motion, he would tell

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>me to take a different release than I was supposed

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to be taking based upon are you know the way

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the play was drawn up? And I would literally be

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>looking over my show, like, what did he just did?

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>He just tell me to go out and I would

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>do it. Obviously, I'm not going to question West and

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I would run it. And he would kill the person

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>on a route, not only not because of what he

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>physically did, but because of what our alignment and leverage

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and all those different things. Just the little adjustments of

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>those tweaks is just it's amazing to have somebody who

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.239
<v Speaker 1>understands the game at that level and it makes it

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>makes everybody around him better as a whole. I mean,

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned having those conversations in the wide receiver room

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>or great and ensure all the young wide receivers are

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>going to learn from that. Michael Gallup has certainly picked

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>up some things from playing with Amari Cooper. But then

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you look across at the dB room and we were

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about Treyvon Diggs earlier. His brother is a top

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>five potential route runner in the NFL. So having both

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Stefon Diggs to learn from and Mary Cooper to learn from,

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and then you got the athleticism to go up against

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the guy like Ceedee Lamb. I mean, that's why treyvon

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Diggs hass tough, because you know what you mentioned Stefon Diggs,

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and automatically, I'm like, Wow, the top five just got

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot more crowded. But Stefon Diggs is probably one

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of these the greatest route run is there is in

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the game right now. We just want to put him

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>up there. But you know, I value everything that you're

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about about that veteran leadership, and also I love

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the fact that CD understands that and realize that he

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>has this this tree of wisdom to to go to

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>to talk about what's happening in game and just him

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>tapping into that I think will make the difference on

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>this offense and especially making the difference in this wide

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>receiver room. Yeah, another thing that stuck out about Hard

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Knocks last night. It was a couple of seconds after

0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper and Cede Lamb were talking how about Cede Lamb,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking smack with with Michael Parsons a little bit.

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>That was fun to watch. I mean, those are two

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>young guys, Rob that you want to show that edge.

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's one of the big things that the

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys needed in the off season was an edge, a

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>little nastiness, and even Michael Parsons as a rookie coming

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>in and showing that off was good to see. Tank

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>was asked about kind of his impact in the room

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>as a rookie coming in, and he said, yeah, he

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.719
<v Speaker 1>talks a lot of s, so he does. I mean,

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you can see it on hard knocks and it's I think.

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's good. You know, as long as he's

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>into his assignments and trying to learn and pick everything up,

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>which everything we've heard is that he does that, and

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>he's doing it really well. You're right. He brings kind

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of that edge, and he brings speed four three, two

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred fifty pounds running a for three, and he's physical.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>That's like the biggest things this defense wanted. They wanted

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to get faster and more physical and maybe have more

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>of that edge. And he brings all those three things.

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>As the twelfth pick in the draft, Yeah, CD lead

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that man alone. But when you think about the best

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>linebackers in history, they all most of them had an edge,

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>most of them talked a little bit. Ray Lewis Ray

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Ray Ray, I mean who who mean who who else

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>would you put up there? I mean, you think about

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>some of the quiet guys, you know, Willis and Wagner,

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>those guys don't talkhot Matthews, Clay Clay talked. I thought, yeah,

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Clay talker. Locker probably did. Mike Singletary. Singletary just looked

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>at you with his eyes. His eyes talked, sick of bears.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>His eyes talked right. So when you start thinking about

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>some of these these these really good linebackers in the

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>history of the NFL, majority of them had a little

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>bit of an edge. You know, you are even talking

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>about Harrison from freaking from Pittsburgh. Charles is scared of

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>crap at him, you know, like, yes, we had yes, Yes,

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to you want to know where those guys

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>around on the field. No, and you want im For me?

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I want my linebacker just a touch crate. I wanted

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to be touched, a little little little nut loose, a

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>little touched, not all the way crazy, but just touched

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Yeah. And Mica he's man, He's a phenomenal,

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>phenomenal kid. And you can see his personality in his interviews. So,

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, it's gonna be a seventeen game season.

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 1>We're getting the sample size of him in the preseason,

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and now we're seeing him on hard knocks. Now we're

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna get into hard knocks because there's a lot.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, I watched it and I had my popcorn O.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. Well, yeah, tell me about it. What

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you think. Did you see the drone shot? First of all,

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's awesome. Did y'all see the feel

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the Dreams game between the White Side? Yeah, it's like

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>they saw that on Fox, which is really cool, Like yeah,

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>through the house and stuffing, and they're like, I see

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that and I raised you the star. It was incredible.

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. And just getting calls from friends saying, man,

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that is sick to building. This is sick, and I'm like, yeah,

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know the half man this is set.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But it didn't even show at all. No, it didn't.

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm just gonna say my favorite part

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>was Jerry on the helicopter. Jerry on the helicopter was

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>my favorite part. When the guy says, hey, is it okay?

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>So we gotta go back and pick up Steven and

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>he says it He's just like, yeah, sure, no problem,

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, no problems going back and pick him up.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess we're just gonna start the day by Effano,

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and it was just it was hilarious because it just

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>showed that I mean, you look at Jerry Jones, the

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 1>billion there, the team on, He's a dad and he's

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk a bit this there his kids no matter what.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I just love that because I'd be the same way

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>about my son. You know, he's just gonna start the

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>day by missing it a kid. That's that's pretty funny.

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>It was weird the other day when we had the

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>conversation with Jerry on the sideline for pregame and then

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Stephen came in a couple of seconds later. I was

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of pitching a question to Stephen and I was like,

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I asked your father this a couple of moments ago,

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and in my head, I was like, I don't know

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>if I've ever like really said that out loud, like

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>it's such like a business family, this is your father,

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>but it is his father. And it was like, I

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I've ever really said it that way before.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of interesting, but that that that one

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>also reminded me of That was the fact that he

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, well let's just let me throw a

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>jab at him here and there, Isaiah, you get to

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>watch it. Yeah, I'm I'm actually watching it right now.

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>The drone shot, I mean they must have had on

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the goggles, a little FPV goggles because this is this.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was ridiculous. Nuts, that's ridiculous. I have

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a drone and yeah, I would have been I would

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>have could you have phone through the car? I wouldn't

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>have got that far. I wouldn't got that far. But

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, a little huddle, a little you know,

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a little tinfoil huddle. I would have, Yeah, would Yeah,

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>insurance policy. Shout out to Danny Serek and in our

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>crew that when you first go first one in through

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the Ford Center man Danny Shine and little cameo superstar

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>about Jonathan Jackson talk about a cameo, talk about a superstar. Yeah,

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 1>guys talking smacked Dack Zeke. He don't ask me to

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>play anymore. He is all your money. He's not gonna

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 1>be here in like two weeks. He's gonna do to Hollywood.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>He'll be Jonathan Jackson Wood. You know what was so

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I think about that story is that the lineage of

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>his family that's worked within the organization that is crazy

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>fourth generation. I did know that that is new about nuts.

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Dad was here for many years, but I great grandfather. Yeah,

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that is uncle. They think this is nuts, man. I

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>think that's phenomenal. When Dak said he's he's cowboy Royalty, well,

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I think kind of is. And one of the nicest

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>people you'll ever meet. I mean, there's not a person

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 1>now I gotta pay him in spades. And now's just

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta have here you go, there's gotta have We just

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>do that live for Friday's Talking show. How about that?

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Just anybody else space, Uh, it's been a while, but yeah,

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I threw that out there. Anyone, come on,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it's okay. Uh, Robs, were your thoughts of Hard Knocks

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>anything you learn? I didn't see all of it, Okay,

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I kind of I kind of zipped around. And they're

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>focusing on long shots to make the team these last

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>couple episodes, Isaac Allercon and and um yes, and and

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I gotta brush up a little bit, um and mister

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Hardy too. And I mean, I think there's people that

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>want to see maybe more a Jerry, you know, or

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>more more of some of the stars. But this is

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>this is what they This is Hard Knocks formula man

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>that they want to follow some of the long shots,

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and then they'll kind of circle back to a Micah

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Parsons or Jerry Jones and and uh and try to

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 1>give everybody. I mean, I think we're so close to

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it that maybe we don't. I think the average fan

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't get to see any of this stuff is

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>just blown away by any of it. You know, there's

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>some good stories out there. I've enjoyed it. Yeah, I

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it's been an inside look. It's been something fun

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to look at for the for fans at home. And

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>it'sn't like you said something that they don't normally would

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.439
<v Speaker 1>get to see you. It's stuff that we don't even

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>normally get to see. We would have no idea that

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Joquant Hardy lost the contact when he dropped that football

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>on the out route. How many had no idea? And

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>he was like I can't see He's like, oh, man,

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>like I dropped the contact. I like skip Pete in

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.439
<v Speaker 1>there as well, kind of at the running back table

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>saying dude, if you lose a contact, don't try and

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>be a hero and stay in the game. Get out

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>of the game. Are you kidding me? How can you

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>play at see? How can you play running back and

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>not and have goggles not know who Eric Dickerson is, Like,

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's secretly, that's a great question. I don't know how.

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like playing basketball and I know who the horse

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>green is? There you go or Bill cart Right. The

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>thing I relate to the most is Dak's fear of

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>haunted houses. That's me too. Yeah, that was kind of

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I've been the one in my life and I'll never

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>go back. Really we're going, We're just I hate him too,

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>but I just do that. I wanted to go to

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the scariest one, so the scariest do it? Talking nation

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>out there, talking nation. If you guys have any suggestions

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>in terms of where our crew should go for the

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>hunted house, the scariest hunt of house you can find,

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>not the ones. We have to sign the waivers and

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>we're not doing aning of that crazy because I swing

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>up people. If you guys have a suggestion, you send

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it in and we're going, Hey, we're there with me.

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>You walk behind me. Okay, you guys tell us how

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>it goes, because this is going. Heck. That's the thing

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>is I hate him the street I did. I don't.

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't grow up in a hunted house every day,

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 1>was haunted every day. I don't go back. I'm starting

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to question, your sweetness. You better question because when I

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:10.879
<v Speaker 1>moved that the hood, I moved out. All right, we're

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna take the chainsaw. Really had a chainsaw. That's what

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying I don't

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>volunteer for it. Okay, Kyle, I'm waiting, Okay, I mean

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I would do it. I think it'd be fun, even

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>though I hate haunted houses as well. You're going with

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:32.759
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<v Speaker 1>off the show with good news and bad news, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a little more bad news. Reports that Rico

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<v Speaker 1>Dawdle is headed to IR second. You're running back from

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>what apparently it's a hip injury, and that would mean

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>he's done for the season, I believe. Yeah, that really

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 1>is bad. Like him, he was having a good can

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>he was having a heck of a Yeah, he was

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>running the heck out the ball in preseason. That sucks

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Kyle speechless again second time of the show. Well, because

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I really liked Rico. I think I liked him as

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a special team's potential. I liked him as a third

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 1>running back, running back, a receiver out of the backfield.

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>He could have done a lot of different things for that.

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>That running back room has been hit. Yeah, both of

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 1>those losses this year, those are those are major. Yeah,

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>let's just keep those first two guys healthy for sure

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>moving the yard. Yeah, that's a that's a bummer man. Yeah,

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>because after that, like you said, it's taking a bit

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>of a hit. So there you go, Rico Dowdle expected

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to go to I R and take a little bit

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>of time. That's it. That's it for you. Yeah, Okay,

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll take us home. So you know what, I'm gonna

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>take the second part out of the initial teas that

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I had. We were gonna do winners and Losers of

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>training camp. So far, let's just do winners of training camp.

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think, oh, I skewed it too much. Yeah,

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>we got some, we got some. We got some losers though. Okay,

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, we can still do it. Just let's take

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it easy on the losers. Okay, Okay, you want to

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 1>go first, sure, fine, Okay, winners and losers of training camp.

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>So my winner and loser or my album start with

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>my loser of training Camp. I'm gonna put my man

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Jaylen Smith on the losing category of training camp. And

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the reason I say this is because obviously Jalen fighting

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>back from drop foot, all of that miraculous has been

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>productive except for last year and look, had one hundred

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and fifty tackles, finished top five in the league. However,

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 1>they drafted in Michael Parsons in what I consider to

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>be the and you don't have an Apple, so the

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>iOS upgrade. Basically, it's like your phone starts doing things

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you never thought it could do. You see Michael Parsons

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 1>out there doing things from a linebacker standpoint that you

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>never thought you would see a linebacker do. In the

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>multiple ways that they play him. I just believe that

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 1>his speed in all of that for Jalen has got

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>to have him taking a little bit of back. Winner

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in training camp has to be my guy. Kennedy, I

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>think I think he's come out on time, but I

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>think he's shown his worth. And I also think that

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>because of his production, it's making the it's making a

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of hard decisions for the guys that are trying

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to put this fifty three together. So if I'm gonna

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 1>go winners and losers, Mary's Kennedy and as the winner

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and Jalen Smith as a loser, that's really good. Isaiah.

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>On the losing side, I'm going with Jordan Lewis. I'm

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>going to Geordan Lewis. I think that we've heard a

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:06.359
<v Speaker 1>lot about the competition revolving around him, haven't really heard

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.280
<v Speaker 1>his name much at all in regards to making plays,

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>having good practices, having an impact, and for the amount

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:13.879
<v Speaker 1>of money that they're paying him, I think he kind

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of wants to be in some of those conversations. So

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he's putting himself in a very very tricky

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>situation as he's cut these fifty three man cuts come

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>around um, whether it comes in the form of trade

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>or cut. I think he's put himself in that conversation. Um,

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 1>so he's the loser. In my eyes. I think the

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>winner is Kean O'Neill. I think he came in with

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>question marks regarding does he fit right? Obviously he knows

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the system, but does he fit in this in this defense?

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna be safety? Is he gonna be lining back?

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Or is he healthy? Can he play right? Can he

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>be productive? Is he going to be the leader that

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 1>we expect him to be? And I think he's checked

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.879
<v Speaker 1>all those boxes, starting with the losing side, not calling

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>anybody a loser, just saying that it's not going in there,

0:45:54.239 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Rob offices upstairs. There you go, quarter office. This got

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>my name on it. Chauncey Golston and Josh Ball two

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>draft picks who have really not been able to practice

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>at all. I mean, Gholston gets hurt in the conditioning

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>run before camp starts, and I think he's getting closer,

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's tough because he's trying to earn playing time

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>in that defensive line rotation. Josh Ball was supposed to

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>compete for the swing tackle job. That's just not realistic

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>at this point. So that's that's tough when you're a

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>rookie coming in. I think they're both gonna make the team,

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 1>but to play and be impactful your rookie year, I

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's gonna be tough winner. And I'll go with

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the rookies again. Osa Dicky Zua to me has been really,

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>really good, and he just seems to get more active

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:47.320
<v Speaker 1>upfront with that inside rush and it makes me feel

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>better about the defensive tackle depth without Neville gotmore for

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. I mean, I know they're they're inexperience

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 1>there to a large degree, but if he can keep

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>this up, he's got a chance to be, you know,

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>part of this rotation. Maybe start, if not start, you know,

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 1>be a guy who plays a lot of snaps and

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe can be productive for him while year long. I

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like all of the three or I guess each of

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the guys that you guys gave so, I mean Rob

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>gave a couple there, but ultimately six to eight guys

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 1>that you just named, I would put all of those

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>in the exact categories that you had. A man, I

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 1>would say, and this is kind of a stretch, but

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to keep it, keep it different. But Treyvon

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Diggs I think is a winner to me from what

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he's done throughout camp, because last year there were still

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>questions around what Treyvon Diggs could do. We've talked about

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it on this show, specifically Isaiah and whether or not

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 1>he can be your top corner. And I think the

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 1>latter part of last year into the offseason, the expectations where, hey,

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>can he look like your top corner? Well, guess what.

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 1>We're through the preseason and he is undoubtedly the top

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>corner on the roster and he's going to be that

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>going into the year. Of course, he's not practicing today

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 1>because of the non COVID illness, and he added a

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>little banged up ankle at the end of the game

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 1>or into practice yesterday. But I still think he is

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>a winner throughout camp. The loser staying on the defensive

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>side of things is Terrell Basham, and it's along the

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 1>same lines of what Rob said about the two rookies

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>is he comes in as a guy that's in a

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>crowded edge rusher room with guys like of course Randy

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Gregory to Marcus Lawrence. But now Dorrence Armstrong's playing well.

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Bradley and I is making a case for himself. Even

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Chauncey Golston, who is still a rookie at least at

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the moment, has a spot on this roster. Terrell Basham

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.359
<v Speaker 1>was brought in on a two year deal to say hey,

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.879
<v Speaker 1>you you are the edge rusher depth and he hasn't

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>been able to work his way back onto the field

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.919
<v Speaker 1>ever since suffering the ankle injury. So I think he's

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of a loser in terms of training camp. Like

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, not calling in, or like Rob said, no,

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 1>your cube's upstairs. Well Rob moved, he moved away from me.

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh you got a bigger one, Yeah he did. It's bigger.

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 1>You got a office? I do not have you get

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:56.359
<v Speaker 1>You got the corner office up We've been a party

0:48:56.400 --> 0:49:01.919
<v Speaker 1>of p office. Let's go. Do you guys have cubes? Yeah?

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean you don't have a cube? Bye

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:09.320
<v Speaker 1>by association. So just you guys, have you have a

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>cube to go sit down in? Wow? Right, it has

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>your name on it? I wait three time? Speechiless isn't

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 1>that what? What what mind is? Yours? Yours is mind?

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Is that how it goes when you're married? This is yeah,

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:30.760
<v Speaker 1>it says Harrison on the side, doesn't it. That's crazy.

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this question. If you went and

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.439
<v Speaker 1>set in that cube, would anybody kick you out? Yes,

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:40.720
<v Speaker 1>yes they would, Yes, they would absolutely. Oh goodness, I'm sorry.

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you, guys. Shot. I didn't say it

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 1>that shot. You're thinking. Unbelievable, unbelievable. All right, we've got

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to find cubes for Sanquin. Now, I guess thank this

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>is my cube. Okay, yeah, man, this is my cube.

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 1>There's one member of this crew who has an office

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 1>of sorts, and he's he's the next door, right, Yeah,

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>so that's what y'all need to be Jones and all not.

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>He's the memoi though he's the man. He's not even

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 1>conversation as he's always had an office. He needs one

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:18.399
<v Speaker 1>talk about modifying the door. Oh goodness, what have we seen?

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>We didn't get to talk about it on Monday a

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but kind of going along the same lines

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.439
<v Speaker 1>as winners of training camp and he needed a really

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 1>good preseason. But Jabrill Cox, Jabrill Cox, met I'm trying

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to I'm trying to push this thing around. No, no, no,

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it's okay. I wasn't even trying to be funny. I'll

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.919
<v Speaker 1>this series. I think that's that's what made it worse.

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 1>It's true, that's what made it worse. But to your point,

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Jabrill Cox, Jabrill Cox, last week he showed up. Now,

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>last two weeks he showed up. I think last week

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 1>he really showed up. I think they obviously had the

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:58.279
<v Speaker 1>defense bought out, and he showed his range. And I

0:50:58.320 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>think that's what everybody wanted to see. They want to

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>see can he cover? Obviously, they know he could run around,

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>he could hit. They want to see it can he

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>cover somebody? And I think he was running around and

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:08.879
<v Speaker 1>hitting people with reckless abandonment, and that's what you want

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.720
<v Speaker 1>to see as we talk about culture in character this defense,

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I think he was a great reflection of that linebacker

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 1>snaps Week one through weeks seventeen gonna be very very interesting,

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 1>very interested to see how those rotations got a roll, right, Yeah,

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>how their snaps are gonna be dispersed. I think there's

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be some very frustrated guys on that side of

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the ball, at that second level. I think, you know,

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, heck, I'm obviously as a defensive player, you

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:35.400
<v Speaker 1>want to get in there and you want to you

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>want to be in the game. You don't want to

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>come out. And defensive lineman, they know, they cycle in

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and out. Corner, you know, a nickel defense, a back,

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.359
<v Speaker 1>they cycle in and out. Everybody else. You're you're you're

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 1>in the game, right, You're in the game. And as

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker, you don't want to come out that rotation.

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to come out of the game at all.

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 1>So the guys are gonna be in for a snap

0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:53.359
<v Speaker 1>or two and then they're gonna roll those guys about

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it there and some other guys are gonna come in

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:56.399
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be very hard. They're gonna they're gonna

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna hear them say it was hard for me

0:51:57.920 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to catch my flow. It was hard for me to

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to to get the pace of the game. And it

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>really gets settled in. I think we're gonna hear that.

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna project you. You're gonna build those excuses in.

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm throwing him in. Now, you're gonna hear it.

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what I don't want to see come out,

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's number eleven. And if you if he's coming out,

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 1>you're just giving him a blow to go back in.

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, called time out to get it's just not

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but going back to Jabril Cox, um just

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:26.839
<v Speaker 1>one of those names that a lot of people were

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>high up on, I think getting started in the league.

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Coming into OTAs Uh, people didn't think that they saw

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the spark there from number forty eight. But as training

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>camp progresses, he's had some preseason games under this belt.

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.800
<v Speaker 1>You're seeing him do great things and special teams and

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you always talk about this, a guy's path to getting

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 1>playing time is getting those special teams reps. He's done

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:50.400
<v Speaker 1>really good things with that. But when you look at

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this season, preseason, all the way through, all of these

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna play. Every last one of these guys

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 1>are gonna play because involved but the length of the

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:03.800
<v Speaker 1>season and just the way I mean, Jesse Holley's favorite

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 1>word is football is fluid, you know, so things are

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>always gonna happen, and these guys are gonna get an

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to shine. And for Jabril Cox, it's like, if

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 1>he can just kind of settle into a role defensively,

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that may just building that competition and culture

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about. It may spell the end for

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the wolf Hunter. I don't know. I'm just basically throwing

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that out there that he's kind of in a very

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:28.879
<v Speaker 1>peculiar situation right now. I just just picture this. It's

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:31.839
<v Speaker 1>third and eleven, right, third and eleven. You take vander

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.280
<v Speaker 1>esh off the field, you take Jalen Smith off the field,

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you put in Keian O'Neil, You put in Michael Parsons,

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and you put in Dog and Jabril Cox, and you

0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>got you got these guys to be able to cover

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that cover the underneath. These guys are gonna be roaming

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and running around like Madman is. That is going to

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>be crazy. But that's the NFL. I mean, everybody's playing

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that nickel true goodness. I mean, but they're not They're

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 1>not small, you know. That's what I'm saying. Like it's

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 1>one thing if you're swapping them out like for for

0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>small guys. These guys are not small. That's the thing

0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>about Kano Neil. He looks like a linebacker. Yeah he's

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a lineback. I know he's been a safety, but he

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>looks like that boy's a lineback. Ways, I don't know

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>what he's two twenty five. He's a lightist, right, two

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, And you've got your Bill Cox two thirty

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 1>three and you got Michael Parsons. I mean Layton Vanderesh

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 1>is like, what, yeah, two fifty I mean he's a

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>big guy. Vanderesh and Smith are both top heavy. Sure this,

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what they are. They're top heavy. They're

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:25.839
<v Speaker 1>downhill guys. That's what they are. They might not want

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to hear that, but they are. Feel the gaps, come forward,

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the box, go sideways five yards, and that's

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 1>what we do. And these other guys they have range.

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Kind of an addition to your point of the third

0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.879
<v Speaker 1>and eleven hypothetical, I mean, we threw out the hypothetical

0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Monday with the quarterbacks of if there's no Dak Prescott

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and these three year in the game, do you feel comfortable?

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 1>The resounding answer was no. If if Layton Vanderesh and

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith are not in the game and any of

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>those three guys are in the game instead, do you

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable? Yes, I mean I feel better, yes, especially

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 1>based off of what they've done last in the past

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of years in terms of linebacker depth, I feel

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.240
<v Speaker 1>much much better. There's there's only a handful of positions

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<v Speaker 1>on this team right now that I don't feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with the number two guy or the number two rotation

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<v Speaker 1>tackle that yeah, just just oh yeah, center, especially top yeah, center,

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<v Speaker 1>especially um quarterback, quarterback um and then um, what was

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<v Speaker 1>another one I had? I don't think that's it about safety?

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<v Speaker 1>Feel better, feel better about safety, safety, corner, defensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>tight end, tackle, Maybe I feel okay with that right

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<v Speaker 1>now too. I'm okay especially things just I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing is specifically at the offensive tackle, center, and quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Everywhere else I'm okay with our number two.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about those three positions so much. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>defensively and I just feel like defensive line. I like

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<v Speaker 1>how Michaelcarthy said this is he's never seen a flip

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<v Speaker 1>like this with from one group to another. How the

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<v Speaker 1>defense has it's much more or improve And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of the play of the defensive line. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to feel better about these guys in preseason getting

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<v Speaker 1>more pressure on the quarterback and stunting that they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>in all of that is a boy product of Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn's influence. And you know, we go back to last

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<v Speaker 1>year and Mike Nolan and bless his heart, man, because

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have preseason, he didn't have a way to

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<v Speaker 1>implement and just guys just look like hot garbage. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if you had Michael Parsons behind dune Terry Poe,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he would be Why did you just

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<v Speaker 1>do that? I gave you a bad visual, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you would be talking about Parson's that way because of

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<v Speaker 1>because of it. I just think that the d line

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<v Speaker 1>is doing so much better of a job of keeping

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<v Speaker 1>these keeping these these guys lanes open to shooting mic tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>So the defense is working efficiently. But Rob, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>outlook on Tristan Hill right now? Well, I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>this point, he doesn't sound like it's imminent that he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming off pop so very well could be he's starting

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<v Speaker 1>the year there, which would mean I think a minimum

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<v Speaker 1>of six weeks six weeks ago, so he's making progress

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<v Speaker 1>and there's still time. But you know, unless we hear

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<v Speaker 1>something differently that that looks like that could happen. So

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and and Gholston, we'll see if he's

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<v Speaker 1>in that group too, or if you can get back

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 1>before then lots of guys trying to come back. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>in the show. On a good note, guy, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who passed his physical today and has been

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<v Speaker 1>activated off of the publist. And he's the kicker, Greg

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<v Speaker 1>sir line, what he wouldn't win? Like, he's actually like

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<v Speaker 1>doing paper the paper football. Yeah, like paper football. There

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<v Speaker 1>we go. But yeah, Greg sir line is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>activated off a puplist And McCarthy said he will be kicking, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so oh he he needs to Sunday they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>another kicker, so I guess somebody yesterday he's gonna kick. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks coach. I don't think Mike's in the best mood

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<v Speaker 1>right now. He's dealing with a lot of crap. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't blame him. I don't blame him. Well, fully, everybody

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