WEBVTT - Keith Smith Joins The Heat Check! 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:05.480 Break was breaking down all the biggest NBA storylines were 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:08.360 tuned in, so the Heat Check. The Heat Check was 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.080 just a craky the best podcast covering all the drama 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.240 around the association. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:19.560 All Right, Keith Smith jumps on. It's been a while 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:21.959 since we've talked, Keith. It's has been quiet in the 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.400 NBA for a while, and then boom, we get this 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.159 bomb today, Damian Lillard's off to the Bucks. Let's just 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.480 I guess paying a big picture for not just the Bucks, 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.360 but really all three teams involved here and sort of 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.000 what your takeaways were from the trade? 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.400 Yeah, very unexpected. You know, we'd heard over the last 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.080 few days that Toronto was getting close and then there 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.120 were some bods that maybe Miami might re engage. And 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.600 I think there's some spin going on now on exactly 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.920 you know, what the Heat did and didn't offer, and 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.440 what they did and didn't do in the last couple 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.320 of days. But it's you know, the Bucks are in 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.920 a position where they were looking to make a big 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.560 splash to try to convince Giannes, hey we're committed, and 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.040 we're not just committed for another year or so. We're 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.800 really trying to lock in for the next several years 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.960 to try to keep winning. And that's what he said 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.319 that do, and that's what they've gone out and done 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.759 for Portland. Clearly, you're rebuilding, so you're going to get 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.280 the young player and DeAndre eight, and you're getting the 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.720 draft picks coming in from Milwaukee. We'll see what happens 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.920 with Drew Holiday. He's probably never even going to show 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.039 up in Portland at this point. They're probably gonna work 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.760 a trade before that happens. And then the Phoenix Suns 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.240 a bit of an odd edition in here, but they 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.839 wanted to get move on from DeAndre eat and break 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.600 that contract up into several smaller contracts. They get use 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.000 of nurkics coming in and we'll step in at their 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.280 starting five, and then we'll see where they go with 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:44.959 the other guys. They got like Chraason Allen in this here. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:49.880 Little you're a I would call you a professional. You're 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:54.880 a real deal journalist, Keith. I have been sickened by 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.400 Miami media not doing real journalism, and I'm okay with 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.320 that normally, but they've actually tried to bully and strong 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.760 arm the Portland Trailblazers into taking that terrible deal. What's 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.639 your perspective on kind of how this whole thing is 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.760 played out, because it looks looks very silly in hindsight 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:14.919 in terms of what they were doing. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.120 Yeah, I think, you know, anytime you start taking the 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.799 approach of trying to negotiate for a team, you're it's 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.680 going to be a little backwards. Then you know, we're 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:32.120 in this world now of fans covering teams, and that that's, 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.960 you know, kind of a thing that happened. I'm often 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.880 I did it. I grew up a Celtics fan. I 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.280 covered the Celtics for years, but I like to take 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.280 that tried to say fairly objective about it, even you know, 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.600 at times, I know my fandom leaked in there for sure, 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.000 but there's never a point where I was out there saying, 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.640 you know, like right now there's reports Boston wants Strew Holliday, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.600 but I'm not going to pitch. You know, well, the 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:57.480 Troublizer should absolutely take Malcolm Brogden. He'd be great for that. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.840 It doesn't make any sense for them, just like Tyler 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.160 wouldn't have made any sense. So yeah, it was definitely 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.920 one of those things where you know, if anything, I'm 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.880 almost glad this is over, so we don't have to 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.280 listen to and hear that kind of stuff on a 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.600 daily basis anymore, all across social media. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.919 So what happened with the Portland and Miami negotiations in 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.680 terms of what you know, because we're hearing a lot 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.840 of different information about Portland didn't go back to Miami 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.680 when they had other deals on the table. Originally there 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.080 was no deals that were outside of Miami. Aaron Goodwin, 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.120 Now I hear we're report there were some reports that 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.640 he went to Milwaukee and Brooklyn and said dam actually 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.040 would go there. What are you hearing? 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:41.280 Yeah? 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.320 What I heard was, you know, Miami obviously engaged them 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.840 right away, and it openly said, hey, we know, you 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.200 know this may take to thirteen. There may not be 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.200 a direct two team match here because any trade they 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.240 did was going to involve either Kyle Lowry or Tyler 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:01.760 heroes with primary salary matching eat in the Blazers that 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.000 they're not in a position where they really want to 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.400 take on either of those guys. Miami also was capped 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.200 out at offering two draft picks and a lot of 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.880 teams view of the Miami Heat draft picks and similar 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.800 to the Los Angeles Lakers, where yeah, it sounds good 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.960 to have them, but it's pretty rare when those teams 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.120 are bad and bad for very long. So what it 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.560 turns into is do we really want all all of 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.280 those picks, you know, from them? And you know, then 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.560 we're gonna have to turn around and move Hero or 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.320 move Lowry and that's going to be a complicated process. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.080 So everything sounds like there was no real two team 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.760 match there, and then what ultimately happened was Portland was, hey, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.600 we're gonna move on. If you want to make this work, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.760 you've got to find the third team. We're not going 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.839 to be the ones that go out there and find 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.799 that third team to make this happen. You're you're gonna 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.880 have to, you know, figure this out. So I think 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.719 we're in a spot where it just wasn't a match 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.720 for and a lot got made of you know, Portland's 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.919 unwillingness to be re when it's not on them to 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.920 be the team that puts together the full trade when 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.400 they had other options and obviously took one. 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.440 Keith really quick moving over to the West because the 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.039 Sun's also obviously involved in the deal and they're the favorites, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.880 right now even over the Nuggets in the West. So 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.840 do you think they're a better team after these moves? 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.279 Obviously they needed death, but they moved DeAndre, and you 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.279 bring in Grayson Allen, you bring in Little you already 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.159 added Eric Gordon. Do you think the Sons are a 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.320 better team today on Wednesday than they were on Tuesday 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:26.960 after this deal? 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.720 You know, I don't know. It's tough because as much 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.800 as I like yus of Narkic, and he's a better 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.760 offensive player than DeAndre, eton I look at him. How 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.640 much more offense do you need? You have Kevin Durant, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.080 you have Devin Booker, you have Bradley Deal. If you're 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.640 really feeling like you need to add more offense, well 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.360 then you you better be planning on outscoring teams, you know, 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.599 one forty to one to twenty five every night. And 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.640 and Ayton he's not a great defender, but he's a 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.760 better defender than Nurkic. He's got more potential to be 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.839 a better defender in Nurkic. I think Frank Goal was 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.360 going to be able to pull that out of him. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.480 Some wonders with big men throughout the course of his career. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.520 But I kind of get it. They wanted more of 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.720 a short thing with Nurkic. They're a guy they weren't 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.560 gonna probably worry at all about his his you know, 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.080 buy in and really want to work and do all 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.080 the things. He knows he's a role player. He's gonna 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.360 come in and play that role. Grace and Allen will 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.920 help because he can play both guard positions. They're a 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.520 little weak at guard depth behind the two primary guys 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.000 and Booker and bial Eric Gordon is a veteran but 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.719 a little bit older. He's had some injury issues, so 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.240 that's something to watch. And then if you're little just 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.200 a player I really like. But we'll see there there's 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.600 kind of a you know, mixed the guys that are 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.039 going to be in there battling for minutes in the 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.920 starting five and alongside Kevin Durant, you know, in that group, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.880 and behind Durant as well, So we're gonna see. I 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.800 think they're probably better. I don't know that they're appreciably better. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.240 I've still got them behind Denver, but they're right there. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.240 They were already number two, and I don't know that 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.720 this changes much from the being number two for me. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.440 Talking to Keith Smith, bet MGM tonight. So obviously a 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.040 lot of reports that Drew Holliday may get just flipped 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.600 by Portland. Where do you see him or what are 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.200 some the maybe the most likely landing spots for him? 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.440 And could Portland make any other moves after that? 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.360 Yeah, to answer the second part, I don't think we're 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.640 gonna see Portland do much else because they're pretty well fent. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.680 Now you basically got your young core in place with 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.200 Scoot Henderson, Shaden Sharp, Anthony Simon. Now you're at DeAndre 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.480 Ayton for that mix, got Chris Murray, who you also drafted. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:36.000 Basically everybody outside of Drew Holiday is under thirty on 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.400 this roster. Jeremy Grant will turn thirty in season, but 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.400 you know he's locked into such a long term contract. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.320 Nothing's gonna happen with that one anytime soon. So it's 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.239 gonna be Drew Holiday after Who could trade for any 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.280 team that has title aspirations? I could use A guard 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.880 is probably picked up the phone and called, whether it's 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:59.520 Philadelphia or Boston or Toronto or maybe the La Clippers. 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.360 I'm sure all those teams are looking at it and saying, hey, 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.800 what did it take? And one of the things I 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.400 was told, you know, in the aftermath of the trade, 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.000 was hey, it's easier to trade for Drew Holliday than 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.000 it is to trade for Damian Lillard because he makes 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.800 a lot less money. And you know, the teams are 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.280 going to look at it and say, yeah, he's a 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.680 very good player, but he's not Damian Lillard. So I 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.239 think you're gonna see a lot of teams making offers 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.280 and get involved. And I do think Kortan will get 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.800 him traded, probably before everything kicks off next week, because 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.760 one of the motivating factors in all of this was 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.520 given Chauncey billis the roster is going to have to 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.400 start the year without a whole bunch of stuff hanging 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.560 over him of yeah we'll get fifth guy, my trade 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.240 them and all that. They want him to be able 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.480 to start fresh with that young group, and I think 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.120 that's gonna be a big part to get a Holiday 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:43.120 moved fairly quickly. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.800 There's a lot of teams that want Holiday, not a 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.640 lot of teams that have what it takes to get Holiday. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.960 Who do you think is the most likely team to 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.760 get him? Who are some dark horses and who would 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.840 you absolutely rule out? 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.679 I would keep an eye on Philadelphia to get him. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.120 He was one of the players that they were talked 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.199 about maybe trying to go after with this whole cap 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.720 space plan for next summer. And I think people maybe 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.040 have forgotten that's where he started his career and that 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.000 they loved him. They just basically said, hey, it's too 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.680 good for what we're going to be. He has a 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.240 team as we start the process years so we got 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.400 to move on. And they've obviously James Harden becomes the 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:27.000 immediate easy salary match. Not direct to Portland. They'd have 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.440 to be a third team. So maybe the Clippers get 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.599 in there, and the Clippers and Philly both send a 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.440 pick to Jill Portland's way, or you know, we get 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.400 you know, a couple of players moved on and that's 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.000 how this happens. There definitely could be something there with 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.920 that team. I know Boston would love to have them. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.520 Their challenge is it's Malcolm Brogden and then putting together. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.400 The other piece is that you've got to trade you know, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.720 either Robert Williams Al Horford or a whole bunch of 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.160 guys's depth, and then you can have to make it up. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.880 The difference with draft picks, and that's becomes a little 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.400 bit of a challenge for the Celtics. Say, but I 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.439 you know one thing, Drew Holliday, the agent, has done 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.800 a lot of work with Boston over the years. So 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.240 I wouldn't rule them out that they're being aggressive. They're 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.400 trying to, you know, make things happen if they can. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.439 So you know what we're gonna see. You know, I 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.640 think we're in a spot where this is going to 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.079 be really interesting to watch this playoff. Who would absolutely 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.360 rule out the Lakers aren't going to get them. Of course, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.439 they're fans of media who want to, oh, well we'll 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.440 get them, We'll trade you know, D'andelo Russell and other stuff, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.560 without any regard of why would Portland want those things. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.240 But that's just you know what Laker fans. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.360 Do you think there's any chance that Orlando tries to 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.679 get in the mix, because that's what Kevin O'Connor thinks 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:37.640 is a good look. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.560 Yeah, I don't think so. It just doesn't scream what 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.360 they're trying to do. They're trying to build something that 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:48.080 can be sustainable for years here in Orlando. That's where 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.800 I am and where I'm located. So I know that 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.400 front office that they're they're content to just keep building 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.240 with what they've got. They're very happy with the players 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.040 that they have, and this would mean, all right, we 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.439 got to start cashing some guys. There's no organizational push 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.000 to you got to be a playoff team this year 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.960 or anything like da coming. So there's no motivation from 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.400 that side to make a trade like this, and they're 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.840 just not ready to cash in. They're young players and 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.400 their young assets to make something like this happen right now. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.599 So I think we're in a spot where you know, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.480 the magic I get it there there. It could make sense, 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.720 but I just don't see that being something that happens. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:25.160 Keith. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.640 In my perfect world, Drew Holliday goes to the Clippers, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.199 they get an actual point guard. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.480 Kawhi and Paul George stay healthy. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.760 So that means so that means Philadelphia gets nothing. And 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.480 that's what I wanted to ask you really quick about. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.480 So if Philadelphia strikes out on everything this offseason, any 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.319 chance and like they get off to a slow start, 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.439 that Mbeid maybe asks to get moved. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.120 I don't think you'll see that in season, but I 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.599 think if they play him out early again in the playoffs, 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.400 and he's like, man, we just kind of punked it 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.840 a little bit on this year and now it's just 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.840 caps faced stuff, and what are we going to do 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.520 with it? Because the free agent market isn't great and 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.599 I know you can use tap space to make trades obviously, 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.160 but that's become a whole other thing. I could see 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.679 at the end of the season jil Embiid saying, hey, 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:11.760 what are we doing here? Hey, I want to win 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.520 before it comes out, because you know, joelan Bead's thirty now, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.480 he's you know, in I believe this is your ten 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.480 or eleven for him, like he's not. You know, I 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.120 think there's still because he missed all that time early. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.360 There's a thought of that he's still like twenty five, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.959 twenty six years old and he's only been around for 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.480 you know, seven years or something. But he's starting to, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.400 you know, hit the point where hey, if I'm not 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.040 going to win here, I want to do it somewhere 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.280 and let's let's get this figured out. So I think 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.280 maybe after this year you see him start asking some 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.000 questions and it might be as simple as hey, Yannis 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.320 said he wanted guys and the Bucks went and got them. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.600 Damian Lillard, I want guys to and what are we 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:46.120 doing here? 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.800 Got about a minute left or so here James Harden, 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.840 I mean, like, what the hell is going to happen 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:51.120 with this? 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.199 Yeah, I don't know. I think we might be in 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.400 for an ugly media day. There's talks he may not 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.000 even show up, which if you're Philadelphia that may ask 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.400 would be for the best. Just yo, let's hit him 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.679 with a fine and he doesn't show up and go 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.760 And then it turns to our what a training camp 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.880 looks like because they're headed out to Colorado Springs for 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.560 training camp. Is he gonna be there working out with him? 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.720 Do you want him there? Is he gonna show up 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.240 and do what he did at the end of his 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.520 next tenure. That's the messy stuff that could happen with 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.200 James Harden unless there's a trade found here in the 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.680 next few days. And it just doesn't seem like anybody's 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.440 jumping at the opportunity to trade for him. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.640 Keith Smith, I know him. You've been busy. Really appreciate 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.000 the time, man, thanks for coming on with us. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:32.760 I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:34.800 That's all the time that we have for this episode 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.320 of The Heat Check. Come back next week for an 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.720 all new episode. Many thanks to Keith as my co 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.440 hosts Nick Ashew and Ryan Horbitt, and producer Scott Lynn 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.679 from bed MGM tonight. Check out the feed for past 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.960 episodes that drop unexpectedly and follow the Heat Check as 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.000 we had and do a new NBA season. 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