1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to Clay and Buck right 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: now live press conference in uval Day, Texas with the 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: South Texas Regional Director of Public Safety, Victor Escalan go 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: multiple times eleven forty he walks into the west side 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: of rab Elementary. According to reports video we have obtained 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: from outside inside and again we're still combing through that, 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: so bear with us. Multiple realms, numerous realms are discharged 9 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: in the school. We're trying to do get a number. 10 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: We're in the process of analyzing that vision. Four minutes later, 11 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: local police departments you've o the police department, the Independent 12 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: School District Police department are inside, make an entry. They 13 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: hear gunfire, they take rounds, they move back, get covered, 14 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: and during that time they approach where the suspects out. 15 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: According to the information I have, he went in at 16 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: eleven forty. He walks and I'm an approximate twenty feet 17 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: thirty feet. He makes a right, he walks into the hallway, 18 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: he makes a right, walks another twenty feet, turned left 19 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: into a schoolroom, into a classroom that has doors open 20 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: in the middle. Officers are there. The initial officers, they 21 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: receive gunfire. They don't make entry initially because of the 22 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: gun fire they're receiving. But we have officers calling for 23 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: additional resources everybody that's in the area, tactical teams, we 24 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: need equipment, we need specialty equipment, we need body armor, 25 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: we need precision riflemen, negotiators. So during this time that 26 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: they're making those calls to bring in hell to solve 27 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: this problem and stop it immediately, they're also evacuating personnel, 28 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: not say personnelity, students, teachers. There's a lot going on, 29 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: a lot complex situation. They're measuring. They're measuring. I brought 30 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: to me. An hour later, the US mortntrolled tactical teams arise, 31 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: they make entry, shoot and kill the suspect. But you 32 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: also had a Zavana County deputy and you've all did 33 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: police arment that made entry and killed the suspect immediately immediately, 34 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: numerous officers. Now it turned into a rescue operation. How 35 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: do we save these children? How do we save these children? 36 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: Submitted out. We don't have a hard number yet, but 37 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: that was a goal. And then continuing making the area 38 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: safe continued. It's a lot of moving parts afterwards, but 39 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: during they were taking gunfire negotiations and developing a team 40 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: to make entry to stop them. I'll take a few 41 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: questions and again, look, I summary one more thing. I 42 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: forgot to mention that that I want to clear up. 43 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: That came out early on. It was reported that a 44 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: school district police officer confronted the suspect that was making 45 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: an entry not accurate. He walked in understructed initially, so 46 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: from the grandmother's house to the bar ditch to the school, 47 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: into the school, he was not confronted by anybody. To 48 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: clear the record on that. Four minutes later, law enforcement 49 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: are coming in to solve this problem step by step. 50 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: So I just want to clear that up. That's very important, 51 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: and again this will happen as we move forward. So 52 00:04:51,320 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: thank you. I'll take a few questions anybody, So so 53 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: right now, you know, during the investigation, it appears it 54 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: was unlocked. So we're gonna look at that and try 55 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: to collaborate that as best as we can. I do that, 56 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: ste free please one at the time, and then well 57 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: we'll address as many questions that we can. So many. 58 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Finish this question one at the time, announce it, announcing 59 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: dead work. Okay, let's be respewn you know right, so Josh, 60 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: thank you for the question. So right now we have 61 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: it appears it was unlocked. Like I said, it goes 62 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: back to the investigation. It takes time. Uh, we will 63 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: find out as much as we can't why it was 64 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: unlocked or maybe it was locked, but right now it 65 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: appears it was unlocked. So thank you. Get there, wonderful 66 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: side here among the accept what's responding to get and 67 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: get that period of time. So during that time right now, 68 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: according to the information we have, the majority of the 69 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: gunfire was in the beginning. In the beginning, i'd say numerous, 70 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: more than twenty five. I mean, it was a lot 71 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: of gunfire in the beginning. During the negotiations, there wasn't 72 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: much gunfire other than trying to keep the officers at bay. 73 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: But I could change depending as once we analyzed the video. 74 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: But right now, according to information, he did not respond 75 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: record n Yallas, We didn't you see here my questions 76 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: is what I'm answered. So at this time, no, no, 77 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: there was not an officer readily available harm No, no, 78 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: nothing nothing at that answer that and that Yet I'll 79 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: circle back with you again as we do that investigation. 80 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: We have all these questions. We want to answer yourself. 81 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: But I'll get back with you, Sirtain. Yeah, welling gaps 82 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: a wealthy gap with truck. Well, so you gotta understand 83 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: eleven thirty is the information we have at this point, 84 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: and we can confirm eleven thirty. Hey, yeah, but bed 85 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: gets a we got a crash and a man with 86 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: a gun. They have responding officers. That's what it is. 87 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: If it's twelve minutes from eleven thirty to eleven forty, 88 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: that's the information we have right now. Look, at the 89 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, our job is to report the 90 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: facts and have those answers. We're not there yet. Here 91 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: here say again, so so right now, the first nine 92 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: one one calls eleven eleven thirty, I will get the 93 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: time when it took the response, so we'll have that answer. 94 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Could there's a lot of possibilities. There's a lot of 95 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: a lot of possibilities until until until we received an interview, 96 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: because there was numerous officers at that classroom, numerous. Once 97 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: we interview all those officers, what they were thinking, what 98 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: they did, why they did it, the video, the residual interviews, 99 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: we have a better idea. Could anybody have gotten there sooner. 100 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Do you understand small town? Yeah, people from eagle paths 101 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: from Del Rio loreto San Antonio responding to a small community. 102 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: That's a tough question. That's a tough question. Again, it 103 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: goes back. Our job is to report the facts, all right. 104 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: So there you have the press conference at Clay the 105 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: big piece of information that we just heard that is 106 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: contrary to publish reports as of this morning. We talked 107 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: on the show. YEP, there was no armed resource officer, 108 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: there was no confrontation. This murdering psychopath essentially waltzed into 109 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: the school with an AAR fifteen and the doors seem 110 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: to have been opened, and there was nobody to stop him. Nothing, 111 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: no security. So that's a dramatic shift in the narrative. 112 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: And just my first impression of listening to this is 113 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: these some of these law enforcement officers on the scene. No, 114 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: they got a big problem on their hands right now 115 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: with people asking how do you sit there for an hour? 116 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: This is one untrained eighteen year old with a rifle 117 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: who is murdering dozens of kids. How do you sit 118 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: there as train law enforcement for an hour and wait 119 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: for the board TAC team to come in and eliminate 120 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: the threat, That is the question. So, just to reiterate 121 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: for people who may not have been able to hear everything, 122 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: no security officer. It doesn't appear the door was even 123 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Why so he walked right into the school? It does. 124 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: And the question that I wanted to get answered that 125 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: I have not heard. Maybe it'll get asked. Was the 126 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: school alerted and aware that there was any armed person 127 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: in the vicinity? Right? Because they said they got to 128 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: call at eleven thirty about the the accident in the 129 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: car and the man who was armed. We don't know 130 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: how far that accident was necessarily, at least I haven't 131 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: heard from the school. Was the school alerted there's an 132 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: armed demand in the vicinity? If so, why was the 133 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: immediate aftermath not a lockdown scenario in the school, which 134 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: is commonplace. Why was there no school resource officer armed there? 135 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: Do they never have one? That's another question. Why in 136 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: the world was the door unlocked? It appears the doors 137 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: were opened to the classroom, so based on these facts, 138 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: don't open to him apparently, and he was able to lockdown. 139 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: He locked it from the inside and they couldn't get in, right, 140 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: So all of this would appear to be an epic 141 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: level failure of security at its most basic level. If 142 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: that door is locked, maybe he fires his way in, 143 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: maybe he shoots his way in, but you would think 144 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: at least then you're hearing the gunshots. It also sounds 145 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: buck like the initial murders happened almost instantaneously, because they 146 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: say that they made contact with this guy within four 147 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: minutes and then waited, to your point, an hour an 148 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: hour with a loan gunman in a classroom filled with 149 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: children before you actually managed to storm. Then he was firing. 150 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Here was they said in the press conference as well. 151 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: There was active firing, certainly at law enforcement, and they 152 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: don't know. By the way, these are bullets. I mean, 153 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: these are five, five six rounds. They're going they're gonna, 154 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: you know, go through walls. It's not clear how many 155 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: windows there were, how that was playing out. But he 156 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: active firing. He could be killing, he could be firing 157 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: the officers in the next shooting more kids. Yeah, you're right, 158 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: they're sitting there. They don't know the law enforced officers 159 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: who know, So they're sitting there for an hour. An 160 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: hour is a long, incredibly long time to not have 161 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: made a decision to go in and by the way, 162 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: again we're running a lot. 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This evil that occurred that 202 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: has shaken the nation and we have to look at 203 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: what actually could have been done to have stopped or 204 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: or even mitigated this, and what procedures need to be 205 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: looked at tactics, techniques, and procedures. And one of the 206 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: great resources that we have in discussing these kinds of 207 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: tactical matters is the fact that this audience is full 208 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,359 Speaker 1: of people with an incredible wealth of knowledge and experience 209 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: on these matters, military, military, special operations, elite law enforcement, 210 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: career law enforcement all over the country. And to that end, Clay, 211 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: we have experts lined up now who want to weigh 212 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: in on this and tell us based on the facts 213 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: what we have so far. Let's start with John in Miami, Florida, 214 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: who was a retired Miami PD SWAT commander. John, thanks 215 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: for calling in. Good afternoon, gentlemen. John. What do you think? 216 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: What do you think about what happened down for us? Okay, 217 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: that was my career path pro police obviously, However, I 218 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: don't know all the facts yet. But if there was 219 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: armed security or better yet, armed personnel police on the scene, 220 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: they needed to engage that individual immediately. Obviously he's got 221 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: a rifle, you know, he's a threat. You need to 222 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: engage if he gets away from them, he goes into 223 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: the room with a classroom. Break into the classroom. Then 224 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: you cannot wait. SWAT typically has two ms. You can't 225 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: wait for SWAT. There. That's an active shooter situation for sure. 226 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Deliberate action plan where you have time to plan, okay, 227 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: and an immediate action plan, which is that the active shooter. 228 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: We have to respond and act immediately. I don't know 229 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: what the facts are yet. Okay, they're doing their investigation. 230 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: They should have had it out already. But you engage. 231 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: You got a gun in a badge, you're getting paid 232 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: the big bucks, the pension. You gotta go ahead and act. 233 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: This is this is game time. Now. Now is when 234 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: you got to earn your team and from your perspective. Also, 235 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: obviously they know the gunshots are going on, so this 236 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: is not some sort of hostage situation. Right. How does 237 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: hearing gunfire from inside of the school from a SWAT 238 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: perspective also change your analysis in terms of making a decision. 239 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: It's a green light, sir. Let's say, for example, I 240 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: have a hostile situation which I've handled several Yeah, we're 241 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and we have to assemble the team, 242 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: bring in the hasta negotiators, so they can go ahead 243 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: and establish dialogue, kind of talk the guy down. But 244 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: there's a point in time. If he quits talking to you, 245 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: you gotta less than thirty seconds to go ahead and 246 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: break in because he's gonna kill himself or kill people there. Okay, 247 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: that's a standard National Tactical Officers Association training. That's one 248 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: on one. If you hear gunfire, you gotta go. There's 249 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: no doubt what's going on, John, go ahead. No. I 250 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, is there any possibility that you 251 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: end up with a paralysis over who's in control in 252 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: a situation like this, when you have people responding to 253 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: a gun potential situation in a school, how does the 254 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: command structure potentially work? Listen, you will typically have and 255 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: you know, I did field operations, so obviously my thingles squat, 256 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: but I worked regular patrol for years. You're typically going 257 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: to have the supervisor respond asapple over there, but the 258 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: officers should have enough common sense go ahead and whatever happens, okay, 259 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: on the scene there, you're gonna be the eyes and 260 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: ears for your sergeants and for the chain of come 261 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: in and say this is what's going on. But comes 262 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: to a point where you have to act, you cannot. 263 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: That's where you didn't pay the big buck. Yeah, John, 264 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: that's my sense of it, and every law enforcement officer 265 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: I've talked to offline so far feels that way. John. 266 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for serving your community and for your expertise 267 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: today on the show. Appreciate you down in Miami. Marie 268 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: in Northern Idaho, retired police officer in school resource officer Marie, 269 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: please weigh in, Hi, guys, John is absolutely correct. The 270 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: current training as a two years ago I retired them. 271 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: Is the first officer on the team. Here's shooting. He 272 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: goes in, takes out the gunman, and it doesn't matter 273 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: if you have to walk over with the kids screaming, 274 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: crying kids. I mean that sounds really harsh, but you've 275 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: got to go straight to the shooter and you take 276 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: him out. You don't stop, you don't pause, You just 277 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: go hard and fast and take him out. Marie. Are 278 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: you did you work inside of a schools as a security? 279 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: Is that what you did? I did. I worked as 280 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: a school resource officer, So okay, so would you thank 281 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: you for doing that job. It's very important my kids 282 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: have an armed police officer. Inside of their school every day. 283 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: They love her. She's widely loved inside of the school. 284 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: When you hear that that school resource officer who was 285 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: armed confronted this guy and yet he still somehow ended 286 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: up in the school, what is your analysis of that 287 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of situation. How did that happen? Well, it's hard 288 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: to know without knowing the facts, but it sounds like 289 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: he didn't do his job, because if he'd done his job, 290 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: the gunman would be dead or the officer would be 291 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: at least wounded, because if you got a shooter coming 292 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: in and he had a long gun. So yeah, he 293 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: definitely knew that the shooter definitely came in. He was intent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Marie, 294 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: thank you for again knowing the procedures, knowing what is 295 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: trained or what people are trained in rather so important 296 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: in this moment to be able to assess properly what 297 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: happened here. Because thank you so much, Marie, Thank you 298 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: for serving your community. It's Clay, I mean, you see 299 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: you hear it in those again. Very rarely is there 300 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: audio that I think is it's just too much. It's honestly, 301 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: I think it's too much to play on the show 302 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: at this point. In time, and when you hear these parents, 303 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: I know that's that life. People could disagree with me 304 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: on that, but it's just heartbreak. They're begging the officers 305 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: to go in, and if they won't go in, to 306 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: let them go in. And and you know, I mean, 307 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I tell you this. I mean uncle has 308 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: retired LAPD spend spend his career the LAPD. I think 309 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: even now, as a retired LAPD officer, I'd bet my 310 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: life that if he had the opportunity, he'd go in there. 311 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: And then all the law enforcement officers listening right now 312 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: would say I would go in there. So why didn't 313 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: Why didn't this happen? And we're not getting No one 314 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: is called in yet to say. This doesn't sound like 315 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: a breakdown in procedure. It doesn't sound like there was 316 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: some problem. So if there, if there is something were missing, 317 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: please let us know. Dustin and San Antonio. He's got 318 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: tactical experience with the eighty second Airborne. Thanks Dustin, thanks 319 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: for calling in. Hey guys, I just want to say, 320 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: real quick, you make dynamic entry any by any means 321 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: possible by force. However, you need to get to that 322 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: active shooter and the threat neutralize it by any means possible. Yeah, 323 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: that's that's the training, as far as as far as 324 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm hearing. Yeah, to your point, Dustin, when you're hearing 325 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: the gunshots again, I understand people out there who are like, oh, 326 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: this could be a hostage situation. But when there are 327 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: gunshots going off inside of a school classroom, I don't 328 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: see how your immediate response isn't we got to be 329 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: in there now, We've got to go. Is that what 330 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: you would typically have been trained, Dustin? Yeah, if there's 331 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: active gunshots, he's no longer of keeping people in a 332 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: hawtin situation. In my opinion, he's executing people, and you 333 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: need to neutralize that threat by any means necessary as 334 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: soon as possible. I mean, Dustin. Also, if they had enough, 335 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: then they certainly had over a hundred officers as it 336 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: has been officially reported on scene for over an hour. 337 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: But even in those earlier moments, I mean one one 338 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: guy with a rifle barricaded, I know is a difficult situation. 339 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: But if you have four or five trained people in 340 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: a stack, I mean, isn't that room entry is what 341 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: they do? Isn't it basic room entry? And in my experience, 342 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: by any police officer, they go through basic room entry, 343 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: isn't clearing swat team, and go through numerous training hours 344 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: of room clearing and entries. And if you have multiple 345 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: people and multiple agencies on site, surround the location, make 346 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: multiple entries into different points and go towards the threat. Dustin. 347 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: That's again, if anyone has a something else they want 348 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: to add into this. It sounds like there's a pretty 349 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: clear consensus that there was there was at least a 350 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: breakdown and procedure here, Dustin. Thank you for your service 351 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: or thank you for calling me from San Antonio. One 352 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: more before we have to go into a break here 353 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: for a moment. Sean in Bellehave in North Carolina. Sean, 354 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: you're a former cop in paramedic. What do you think? 355 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: I agree with everyone that has spoken so far. I 356 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: think the one thing everyone's missing is Ferguson, George Floyd. 357 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: Every cop has been demonized and in the back of 358 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: their head for even that split second, it's if I 359 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: discharged my weapon, am I going to jail? And God forbid? 360 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: If I discharged my weapon and I hit one of 361 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: these children that I protect every day, and that's where 362 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: the pause comes in. I believe that's worth mentioning. Yeah, 363 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that is worth mentioning that there 364 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: are psychological impacts to turning in the space of a 365 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: few years. Police are heroes into police are all awful 366 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: human beings who are trying to take lives. Sean, thank you, 367 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: it's a good call. Thank you for calling in from 368 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: from North Carolina. Come back and speaking of Ferguson and 369 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: BLM and the effects thereof this Obama tweet, Clay and 370 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: I mentioned the start of the show awful. I'm it's 371 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: hard for Obama to say or do something that truly 372 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: appalls appalls me because I don't expect him to say 373 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: things that I find worthwhile or agreeable. But this was outrageous, 374 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: and we'll come back, we'll tell you about it. And 375 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: again we've got Mobrooks joining later on talk Georgia and 376 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the elections and a whole lot of stuff going on 377 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: down in the midterms down the line. 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Well, that's kind 403 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: of a broad question. In a nutshell, that's going to 404 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: be a David versus Goliath type of race, Maga versus 405 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Anti Maga, the big money swamp machine and Washington DC 406 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: versus the people. I'm not going to have nearly as 407 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: much money as the establishment candidate that'd be Katie Britt. 408 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: We considers tend to be somewhat frugal, which is a 409 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: good thing. Normally not so good when you're trying to 410 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: raise money in a political campaign. But we're very pleased, 411 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, as Candida is dead about two months ago 412 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: and Mike lazarus I was resurrected, although this time it 413 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: was by the people of the state of Alabama. So 414 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm very appreciative of those who felt that they wanted 415 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: a person the United States Senate who shares their respect 416 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: for the foundational principles that have made America the greatest 417 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: nation world history. I appreciate you coming on with us. 418 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: When is the runoff election and what will the role be, 419 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: if any, of Donald Trump in your mind in this election. 420 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: I know he's endorsed and pulled the endorsement. Do you 421 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 1: expect him to get involved at all in the runoff. 422 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if he will or not directly, but 423 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: of course he will indirectly. By way of example, the 424 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: Trump family, Donald Trump Junior has referred to Katie Britt 425 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: as Alabama's Liz Cheney and for those of who don't know, 426 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: is a pelosar Republican. That's not a good thing to be. 427 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: And then Donald Trump has already said about Katie Britt 428 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: this is a quote is not in any way qualified 429 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: and is certainly not what our country needs or not 430 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: what Alabama wants in quote. So you've got those kind 431 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: of past quotes by President Trump about Katie Britt, and 432 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: more recently he said some things that are kind of 433 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: off the wall about me. For example, he called me woke, 434 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: which is an unusual descriptive term for someone who, according 435 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: to the American Concert Union, has the best record of 436 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: any person from Alabama who serves in the House of 437 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: the Senate, Washington DC. Speaking of Congressman Mo Brooks, he's 438 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: running for Senate in Alabama. Congressman, as you know, there's 439 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: a lot of discuss going on right now, well, a 440 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: lot of push from the Democrats for some form of 441 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: gun control. Wanted you to react to Joe Biden, who 442 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: has been obviously making the rounds on this issue. I 443 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: spent my career as Chairman of the Judiciary Committee and 444 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: as a Vice President working for common sense gun reforms. 445 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: As I said as a senator the Vice President, well, 446 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: they clearly will not prevent every tragedy. We know certain 447 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: ones will have significant impact and have no negative impact 448 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: on the Second Amendment. Second amend is not absolute. When 449 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: I was passed, you couldn't own Yeah, So he's saying 450 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: significant impact, no downside. Well, what is it, Congressman, What 451 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: does Joe Biden want us to do that's going to 452 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: stop so much and not be an infringement. Well, I 453 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: will let people decide for themselves what the phrase shall 454 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: not be in friends quote unquote means in the United 455 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: States Constitution. To me, that means that you shall not 456 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: be doing things that inhibit the ability of law buying 457 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: citizens to keep in bear arms. That's the way I 458 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: interpret the Second Amendment right to bear arms. And because 459 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: of that, as you're probably aware, I've been endorsed by 460 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: the National Rifle Association, Gun Owners of America, and the 461 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: National Association of Gun Rights. That's in part because I've 462 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: had a perfect a record in Congress, according to the 463 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: NRA and Gun Owners of America. But it's also in 464 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: part because Katie Britt has a less than good record, 465 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: having publicly stated that she would have voted for back 466 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: in September legislation that had red flag laws in it. 467 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: That's where they seize your guns first based on rumors surmise, 468 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: and then you have to litigate to get them back. 469 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: So we have a big clash here between myself and 470 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: Katie Britt. Of course, both of us clash with Joe 471 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: Biden probably what he wants done based on the quote 472 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: that we just heard. But I'm going to fight to 473 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: protect the Second Amendment. And keep in mind, I'm one 474 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: of the people who's been in one of those shootouts, 475 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: having been the target of an assassination attempt at a 476 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: baseball field in Virginia in which five of my friends 477 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: were shot and the assassin was killed one hundred and 478 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: seventy bullets fired over about a seven minute period of time. 479 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: And another thing that the Democrats are doing here is 480 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: they're trying to divert attention from the causes of these killings. 481 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: And that's what's very important. You have a lot of 482 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: these kids nowadays, young people who grew up in single 483 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: parent households, or grew up they were born out of wedlock, 484 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: or they weren't exposed to proper moral values that teaches 485 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: the value of life, and that those are all Democrat things. 486 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: They're the ones who have adopted policies that have encouraged wedlock, 487 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: excuse me, childbirth out of wedlock, that have encouraged divorces 488 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: and single parent household that make it so much more 489 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: difficult for one parent to raise a youngster correctly than 490 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: two parents, and it's just easier with two. And so 491 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do by diverting this public attention 492 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: to something else is they're trying to strip us of 493 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 1: our Second Amendment right to bear arms, where Joe Biden 494 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: and the other leftists want to do it a little 495 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: bit out of time, in part because they don't want 496 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: the American people to be able to take back their 497 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: government should it ever become dictatorial, bearing in mind that 498 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: the Democrats want to impose socialism, and socialism at its 499 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: heart is dictatorial. We're talking to Congressman Mo Brooks. He's 500 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: in the runoff for the Alabama Senate seat against Katie Burritt. 501 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: That will be voted on soon. We've got a monster 502 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: audience in Alabama, Congressman. We're number one in Birmingham and 503 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: all throughout the states, So we got a lot of 504 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: people in Alabama listening to us right now, and they 505 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: a lot of those people have heard us in the 506 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: last couple of hours talking about the school shooting in Texas, 507 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: and you kind of touched on it a little bit, 508 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: But I'm curious what you would directly attribute. We've had 509 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: available guns in this country for hundreds of years. Prior 510 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: to Columbine, we did not have inside of school shootings 511 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: occurring like they have. What should we do to try 512 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: to stop these school shootings, which I think everybody agrees 513 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: we should be trying to stop them going forward? In 514 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: your mind, well back up in my neck of the 515 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: woods in the Tennessee Valley, we have a pretty secure 516 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: school system. YEP. You have to go through one set 517 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: of doors before you can get through to the next 518 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: set of doors that are locked in between. You have 519 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: a barrier where you can communicate with somebody who in 520 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: turn can look at you and determine whether you have 521 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: a legitimate purpose for being in that school. Of course, 522 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: they can look at you and determine whether you're carrying 523 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: a rifle of some kind, or perhaps whether you're carrying 524 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: pistols or other weapons. So that's what we have done 525 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: in my neck of the woods here in the Tennessee Valley. 526 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: Each system on its own has to determine what they 527 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: can afford on the one hand, and what ought to 528 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: be put in place in order to adequately protect the 529 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: children that are there. And I do want to emphasize 530 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: something you just said, and that is that these things 531 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: used to be very rare when I was growing up, 532 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: back in the day when we focus more on moral values. 533 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Back in the day when you had two parent households 534 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: so that the parents could give better instruction, particularly on 535 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: right and wrong, particularly on moral values and the value 536 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: of life. A shooting, a mass shooting, was rare. I 537 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: don't think I can think of one mass shooting during 538 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: the decade of my youth, not one in ten years now. 539 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: There may have been one someplace, and I just missed it, 540 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: because after all, was anywhere from about six years old 541 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: to sixteen seventeen years old. But look at how it 542 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: is today, and what's the change the laws concerning gun 543 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: ownership were a lot more open back when I was 544 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: growing up. Heck, I used to bring a gun to school, 545 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: not stayed in my car because I've just gotten through 546 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: duck hunting. Okay, so early morning hunting, put the shot 547 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: gun in the car, drive the car to school. And 548 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: we didn't have this stuff because we had better moral 549 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: values being taught. But nowadays you've got a moral values 550 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: being advocated by Democrats in particular, and then being accepted 551 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: by Republicans who are unwilling to fight those Democrats who 552 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: are pushing these a moral values on it. That's the 553 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: big change, the societal change. And if you look at 554 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: the root of these shootings, I think you're going to 555 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: find most of the time, but not always, that there 556 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: are any number of about four or five or six 557 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: different factors that have contributed to that person deciding what 558 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: they want to do. Sometimes it's drugs, Sometimes it's despair 559 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: because the future doesn't look as good as it used 560 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: to see. When I was growing up, we didn't have 561 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: this competition for blue collar jobs by illegal aliens and 562 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: other chief foreign life brows. And so even if you 563 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: didn't have the skill set to get the best grades 564 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: in school, you still could have a pretty good future. 565 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: You might start out as a carpenter and eventually have 566 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: your own business as a carpenter, as a framer, whatever 567 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: it may be. You might start out as a roofer 568 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: and eventually have your own business. Heck, I have a 569 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: client who was a high school dropout, okay, and he 570 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: became wealthy. Last time I'm familiar with how much he earned. 571 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: It was three hundred and something million dollars in one year. 572 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 1: He was telling him it was thirty eight thousand dollars 573 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: an hour, even when he's sleeping a high school dropout, 574 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: because he worked really hard and eventually came up with 575 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: the idea founding a company known as ABC Supply, which 576 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: is now America's largest distributor of roofing, siding in windows. 577 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: So that was the kind of opportunity you had when 578 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: I was growing up, when you didn't have all this 579 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: cheap far and labor competition. The gentleman that I worked for, 580 00:35:54,280 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: he might not ever have started out. Congressman is conial, 581 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: Can I ask you that that's are we cut there 582 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: for a second to the audio, But on that issue 583 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: of illegal immigration, the border is arguably the worst it 584 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: has ever been in terms of lawlessness. The numbers are 585 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: very clear in that regard, and they're likely to get 586 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: worse over the next six months, which just seems mind blowing, 587 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: But that's what everyone at Border Patrol will tell you 588 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: right now. What is the answer? What should we do? 589 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: How do we fix this problem? It is easy to 590 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: fix if you elect the right people. You've got two 591 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: blocks of elected officials who form a majority that keep 592 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: us who want border security from doing what needs doing, 593 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: so it's up to the public doing their homework. Those 594 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: two blocks consist of Democrats on the one hand, who 595 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: see open borders and ultimately amnesty and citizenship as their 596 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: long term ticket to rule of this country. Then you've 597 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: got the Chamber of Commerce Republicans who support cheap foreign labor, 598 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: legal or illegal. However they can get it here because 599 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: that's an exchange for huge campaign contributions. And this, by 600 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: the way, is a huge contrast point between myself and 601 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: Katie Britt. I've got an A plus grade with numbers 602 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: USA every single year I've been in the United States 603 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Congress on border security and the issue of cheap foreign labor. 604 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: Katie Brill, on the other hand, has been endorsed by 605 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: virtually every entity that wants cheap foreign labor, and they 606 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: have provided millions of dollars in support to her campaign because, 607 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: in the eyes of these professional, paid special interest group lobbyists, 608 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: Katie Britt is the one out of the six candidates 609 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: running to the United States Senate who has the weakest 610 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: record on border security and the weakest record on cheap 611 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: foreign labor. So that's a huge contrast. Now, what can 612 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: we do if we get the right people elected. Well, 613 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: for one thing, you can do eferifi so that the 614 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: employers have put in a position where they have access 615 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: to the information that tells them whether a person is 616 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: here lawfully or illegal. Okay. Then you can also build 617 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: the wall, and you can start enforcing the laws that 618 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: are already on the book so that people don't think 619 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: that they can ignore our laws. 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As 683 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: we're kind of breaking down the larger discussions surrounding shootings 684 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: in America, we mentioned that Barack Obama had sent out 685 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: an ill timed and incredibly inarticulate combination tweet where he 686 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: tried to mention the shooting in Yuval day and tie 687 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: it into George Floyd Joe Biden is. It's disgusting the 688 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: degree to which Democrats are desperate to terrify black people 689 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: and convince them that there are white supremacist and KK 690 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: hooded KKK hooded henchman hiding behind every corner and that 691 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: they could die at any moment at the hand of 692 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: domestick terrorism on the basis of white supremacy. It's just 693 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 1: not true. It's a lie, but it is an essence 694 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party platform right now, which basically boils 695 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: down to identity politics. Ie, if you are a particular identity, 696 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: you have to vote for us and cancel culture, which is, 697 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: if you aren't a member of our party, we're gonna 698 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 1: try to destroy you for anything you say that is 699 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: in the remotest bit controversial while they get to define controversy. 700 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: But listen to Joe Biden yesterday spreading more lies about 701 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: the dangers that black people face in America. Listen to 702 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: this because you've seen all too often public trust is 703 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: frayed and broken, and that undermines public safety. The families 704 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: here today and across the country. You've had to ask 705 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: why this nation. Why so many Black Americans wake up 706 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: knowing they could lose their life and of course just 707 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: living their life today simply jogging, shopping, sleeping at home 708 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 1: where they made headlines are not lost, souls gone too soon. 709 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: Members of Congress, including many here today like Senator Corey 710 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: Booker and Conners and Karen Bess, alongside members of the 711 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: Congressional Black Caucus, House of Senate Judiciary committees, spend countless 712 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: hours on the George Floyd Justin Police enact to find 713 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: a better answer to that question. It's just a lie, Buck, 714 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: Black people are not in danger from white people statistically, 715 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: from police officers. Statistically. This is the big lie. You 716 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: want to talk about big lies. Democrats love to talk 717 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: about big lies. This is the big lie that BLM 718 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: is trying to sell that is directly leading to thousands 719 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: of black people who would otherwise be alive being dead today. 720 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: The true irony of the BLM protests, despite the fact 721 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: that almost no media will discuss it, is that BLIM 722 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: has caused thousands of black men and women who would 723 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: otherwise be alive to be dead because crime is skyrocket 724 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: and they're the overwhelming victims of it. Most of that crime, 725 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: by the way, black on black violence and the people 726 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: who helped to stop that crime from happening, Black, white, Asian, 727 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: Hispanic police officers all over the country. They've been turned 728 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: into the enemy. Joe Biden is a shameless panderer for 729 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: his entire career. That is what Joe Biden does. He 730 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: just says whatever he thinks will play to the audience 731 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: that he's speaking to of Democrats and on on the 732 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: issue of criminal justice. Right now, they do not have 733 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: anything to show for all of the all the talk 734 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: that happened. And look, this is something it's a reminder 735 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: for everybody. There was a focus in the Trump White 736 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: House and some victory lapse even on criminal justice reform. 737 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: There wasn't enough of a focus on, well, what are 738 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: we really reforming here? What's really going on? Because for 739 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 1: every for every person that they then commuted as sent 740 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 1: and stuff, Let's say, and you know, I'm in favor 741 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: of that, right if someone has a non violent drug crime, 742 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: they got hit with a really really long sentence and 743 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: agreed they same reform. I was in favor of that. 744 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: But while there was a focus on that, and this 745 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: was happening even with the Trump administration, there wasn't enough 746 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: attention paid to Hey, what's going on with all these 747 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: Soros Soros backed prosecutors. And by the way, that's not 748 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: some conspiracy theory. Prosecutors in major cities and jurisdictions all 749 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: across the country have gotten large donations for Usually a 750 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: district attorney campaign is not something that draws a lot 751 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: of money. Right, people are like, I'm not going to 752 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: give to that guy or gal because I'm not I'm 753 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: not going to break the law, So what do I 754 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: care who? The day really usually is not Now people 755 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: are focusing in a lot more currently than they used to. 756 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: But Soros wrote checks to these different district attorneys, and 757 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: their basic attitude is, look, you know, if someone needs 758 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 1: to be able to get arrested thirty or forty times, 759 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: if someone's bludgeoning old ladies with rusty lead pipes on 760 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: the street because they're having a bad day, we don't 761 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 1: want to be too rough on them. That's that's wrong. 762 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, if there's a disparate impact 763 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: on minority communities from the enforcement of the law, that's racist. See. 764 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: I think conservatives take a very different respective on this 765 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: clay and this is true. I mean, this was true 766 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: when I was working in the NYPD, which by the way, 767 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: is about I think about forty forty five percent minority. 768 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: Right now, it's a very heavily minority police force, might 769 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: even be more than that now. Their their attitude is 770 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: we enforced the law, and we enforced the law in 771 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: in all communities and including in minority communities, irrespective of 772 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: what the final demographic information says about about who we're arresting. 773 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: Because if we're in an all black or almost entirely 774 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: black neighborhood, entirely Hispanic neighborhood, whatever the case may be, 775 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: we're protecting the ninety nine percent of law abiding, good 776 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: people in the community from the one percent who prey 777 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: on them. And that's that's the case. They know this, Clay. 778 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: There are if you go to any precinct in New 779 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: York City and you sit down, you speak to there 780 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: are Intelligence division officers that are that work with these precincts. 781 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: Who are the guys that are shooting people in robbing 782 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: people in your community? What are the gangs that are active? 783 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: They know, and it's less than one percent, And then 784 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: talk about the worst communities. So you can protect the 785 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of people and just do what law 786 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 1: enforcement needs to do, irrespective of whatever that means in 787 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: terms of the arrest you know what the arrest percentages are. 788 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: Or you can take the left point of view, which 789 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: is we need to balance things out more and that 790 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: means less arrests across the board. I also, anybody out 791 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: there who responds and says police are racist, I just 792 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: I would ask you to respond this way, are they sexist? 793 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,240 Speaker 1: Because the vast majority of people that are getting arrested 794 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: by police are men. So the argument of oh, police 795 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: are behaving in a racist fashion, we hear that all 796 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 1: the time. Well, the percentage of arrests something like ninety 797 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: five percent mail. So given the fact that the population's 798 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: roughly fifty fifty, why wouldn't you argue that police are 799 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: are our sexist? The reality is police go after whoever 800 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: the criminals are right, and that's how they protect this 801 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: But it's amazing, Buck, the silence that you'll get when 802 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: you hit people with that stat You're you're really focused. 803 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: Just next time somebody says, you know, policing is very 804 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: racist in this country, I would say, Okay, well, isn't 805 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: it super sexist? Way more than it's racist because ninety 806 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: five percent plus of the people being arrested for violent 807 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: crimes in this country are are male. Why are police 808 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: ignoring all these women who are committing crimes? Miss Andrey 809 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: is hatred of men, right, misogyny is is uh? And 810 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, antagonism towards women and miss Andrey I think 811 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: is I think you're right, all that's a word that 812 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: nobody ever hears. Yeah, because it's yeah, it's not the 813 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 1: only thing, but I think it technically exists. And you 814 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: could you know, if you took the left point of 815 00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: view on this, laws against laws against hama side because 816 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: of their disproportionate impact on men, Yes, who are the 817 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: ones who commits who commit homicide? The leftist point of view, 818 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: the leftist framing of these issues would be laws against 819 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: homicide are an example of man hatred or Miss Andrey 820 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: systemic anti masculinity. Right, they probably get excited about that, 821 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: though systemic anti masculinity. I mean, really, the the credo 822 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: of the left is the credo of the beta male overwhelm. Yeah, 823 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 1: and look, Buck, I mean one of the big topics 824 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: and conversation I think a lot of people are having 825 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: out there is how much of our young angry men problem, 826 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: because I think it is fair to say that there 827 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: are a lot of young angry men in America right now. 828 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: How much is it about demonizing men in general? How 829 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: much is it about absent fathers, how much is it 830 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: about a crisis of masculinity? I think that's real in 831 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: this country, across white, Black, Asian, Hispanic we have so 832 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: demonized men that we have created a generation of men 833 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: who don't know fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen. I'm sure a 834 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: lot of you out there know what I'm talking about, 835 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: don't know how they fit in in society today. I mean, 836 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: it's amazing, isn't it that that we can just and 837 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: you know, you have kids of school age, so you're 838 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: my voice of this issue than than I than I 839 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: would be at this point. 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