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I'm telling you I'm ready, and wrong 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:58.080 will flee. It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.360 the far Well. I hate to say it, I hate 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.560 to take a shot right off the top, but HBO 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:11.160 and Hard Knocks they done messed up. I reckon. They 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.720 need to show up for the start of the season, 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.400 not the end. Why do you say that, Polly Wolf? 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.839 If you're looking for an Emmy Award winning reality TV 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:27.280 and Sports is the original reality TV? How many storylines 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.920 are dripping with drama as the Cardinals head into training 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:36.920 camp two twenty two. I mean, look, the first half 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.839 of the season is telling the second half of the season. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:43.880 Hold my beer at this point and I did, Yes, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.400 I say it now clearly, and HBO and our Knox. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.280 I'm just telling you these guys messed up. They should 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.560 have started a couple of weeks ago, or at least recently. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.120 When when Hollywood Brown went into his garage and found 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.880 a rattlesnake. I mean, there's your welcome to Arizona moment 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.440 for Hollywood Brown. Mister rattlesnake in your garage. Now, what 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.800 do you do? Polly, myself and a teammates once attacked 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.919 a rattlesnake in the backyard of our neighbor. We chopped 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:13.600 its head off. Don't tell Peter Jeez, I might go 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.639 Polly Peter right now. And based on that grizzly account, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.960 thank you will for improving the show with that story. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.720 Pretty very agitated Paul. See now, well, if you're a 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.240 real tough guy, there was a video a few years 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.239 ago of Jeremy Roenick, former Kayatie superstar, actually grabbed the 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.360 rattlesnake by the nape of the neck from behind and 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.320 showed the head and a lie rattlesnake right to the 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.120 camera and he tweeted it out. So yeah, next time, 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.800 I wasn't ready for that, Polly, I'm just going to 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.200 admit it. You're talking about two Northeastern boys that went 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.400 and attacked that rattler. Yeah. Well, and remember Hollywood stands 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.680 for his hometown of Hollywood, Florida, So this is all 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.680 new to Marquise Hollywood Brown. The Big Red Rage. Third 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.160 round rookie outside linebacker Cameron Thomas will be our guest. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.079 Do we have questions with the third round rookie to 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.720 the Cardinals have an ead for edge rusher? Yes, and 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.360 yes that is coming straight ahead. But Wolf, you documented 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.720 it all week long. You're sitting there doing four hours 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.360 a day, and you know, for example, the first day 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.480 a mandatory mini caamp, the Arizona Cardinals made Pro Football 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:15.120 Talk three separate stories made for three screaming headlines. Number one, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.760 Kyler Murray showed up a camp. Number two Rodney Hudson 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.280 did not show up at mandatory mini camp, and number 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.919 three the guy who's getting repse at center now justin 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.959 pew almost miscamp in this season entirely after seriously contemplating retirement. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.120 So there was a lot going on this week, you know, Polly, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.360 I think the big news to me was all about 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.040 the offensive line. It really was just the fact that 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:45.640 Rodney Hudson is not and was not at mandatory mini camp. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.720 That to me was shocking that that really was. Now 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.360 listen the OTAs, of course they're voluntary. That's one thing 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.839 right there, especially when you're talking about a guy who 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.440 totally has command of the offense the way that Rodney 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.640 Hudson does, that is disconcerting to me. The fact that 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.600 he didn't show up for mandatory minicamp, and Cliff Kingsbury said, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:10.520 of course he was unexcused Justin Pew moving over to center. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:16.040 I totally could see Justin Pew being that guy. I 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:20.760 just never thought he would consider retirement and did consider 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.520 retirement last year. Got down to two hundred and sixty 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.000 five pounds. Bai. Yeah, let's take that in order, because 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.800 you're absolutely right, Wolf, and that's a good recollection because 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.880 here is Cliff Kingsbury little Q and A with the 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.719 media because he was conspicuous by his absence. Marcus Gold, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.080 for example, had missed the entirety of the all season. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:43.400 But number forty four was there, number sixty one was not. Yeah, 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.000 no update, we're working through something with him. As soon 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:53.359 as we know, we'll have that update. Not excused, I 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.560 can't all right now. And he was asking again towards 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.400 the end of the press conference and um, well, nothing 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.240 further in terms of details as to what's going on 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.880 other than Cliff Kingsbury saying that we're working through something. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.920 So he should have gone all Nick Saban on that, Polly, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.960 don't ask me about a guy, you know. He should 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.320 have gone Nick Saban right there. Yeah, I'm not going 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.839 to be the Alabama head coach, right, so don't ask 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.080 I mean, look, I'll just speculate real quick. Okay, he's 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.520 got a decade in the league. Plus I'm sure he's 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.440 financially said in a lot of ways. Kelvin Beecham did 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.400 offer up to the media that he's a new dad, 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.040 so maybe he's thinking in terms of family first instead 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.039 of football. Maybe could it also have something to do 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.200 with his cap number going from two point nine last 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.240 year to twelve point six this year, and maybe there's 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.560 been an effort to let's just say, realign that cap number, 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.839 and if they not been able to come to an agreement, 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.960 I don't know. Do you have a gut feeling, Wolf, 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.120 what could be going on here? I really don't, Polly. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.520 It is something I never considered. I did not even 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.640 hear a whisper that there was anything wrong with Rodney 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.599 HUDs in this offseason. I don't know, Paul. You and 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:07.000 I have both talked about it privately and publicly, of course, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.400 and I didn't hear a whisper, and I know you 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.920 didn't as well. So it was shocking. It truly was. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.279 I know this much. I'm not gonna put it in 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:21.080 the positive category. This is gonna go in the negative category. Well, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.880 and here's Justin pu As you mentioned, he met the media, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.279 but he also went on the Dave Pash podcast. This 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.920 is gonna be a MUSC listen next week when it's released. 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.240 But our Jim one hundred given us a little preview here. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.120 All right, We're gonna wet our beacle a little bit 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:38.040 here with Justin Peu talking about potentially playing center for 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.200 good because he's been taking reps there this offseason. I've 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.320 never played center before in my career, but I've seen 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.720 guys play center, lat to their careers. Center mentally is 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.920 just so much tougher, and in our offense, the center 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.880 makes a lot of the calls. That's why we've prioritized 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.440 that position every offseason. We clearly value that position. So 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.200 for me, it's like, if I'm gonna keep teaching pay 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:58.920 cuts a guard, maybe I should move to center and 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.000 see if I can do that. But I'll do whatever's 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.880 best for the team. I've played guard, playing guards like 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.160 riding a bike for him, and you can put me 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.640 out there, and I know what I gotta do. So 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.240 to get some reps at center and see how that 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.280 shakes out. It's interesting, it's fun. It makes you break 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.240 a mental sweat, and I learn a little bit more. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:13.320 I know, made me better if I want to be 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.520 a broadcaster, because you gotta learn coverages and do all 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.760 those things. At the very least, it's gonna help my 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.840 broadcasting career. That's a little joke from Justin pu as 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.360 a great sense of humor. I think about that Wolf. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.160 I mean, he's a highly intelligent guy both football and beyond. 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.240 He's got a decade in the league himself, and if 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.360 he's saying that center is such a mental challenge, then 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.080 for example, like a Lucida Smith coming in as a rookie, 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.400 no chance I ever played center before that. That no 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.960 way you can risk that. So I'm guessing if it's 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.040 not Rodney Hudson, it's justin pure Sean Harlowe as it 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:45.960 stands right now. Yeah, it was kind of like looking 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.880 at Zaven Collins last year and saying that Zaven Collins 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:50.880 was gonna come and he was gonna call the defense 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.400 from the mic linebacker. Not realistic, Not realistic at all, 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.920 PAULI right there, listen, justin pu He's got the mentals, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.080 as they say, he's got the mentality, and he's got 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.600 the intellect to actually play the center position. He also 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.760 has the feet to play the center position. Here's the 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.880 one thing that I do wonder about, though, the mechanics 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.800 of snapping the ball and making your block, snapping the 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:20.240 ball and taking the step simultaneously. It's something you've got 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.080 to be able to do, and you've got to be 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.880 able to do it well, and you've got to be 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:28.440 able to do it accurately. And I just don't know, man, 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.400 a guy who doesn't have a ton of experience at 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.920 center trying to actually learn it. This late in his career. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.000 I mean, theoretically, Cardinals could open training camp in the 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.680 first team session and we're watching and you know, fans 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.079 will be allowed again this year, and we're all watching. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.320 There's the first team offensive line and left or right 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:50.079 it's Dj Humphrey's Will Hernandez a left guard, Justin Pewitt center. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.440 You have Justin Murray at right guard, and then Kelvin 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.079 Beecham at right tackle. I mean that's the way it 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.040 stands right now, until we get further answers. Any answers 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.280 on the status or Hodney Hudson. Yeah, no, Um, you're right, man, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:07.040 But the offensive line, it's it's I'm not giving up 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.719 on Rodney Hudson right now. Yeah, I am not. I'm 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.079 not ready he emotionally, Paul, you know what, to sit 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.840 there and say they're not they're gonna go to trade again, 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.280 They're not gonna be any Rodney Hudson. I'm not emotionally 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.920 ready to do that, Paul. And we've talked about this 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.920 as well, and that is a Rodney Hudson is a baller. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.800 That dude is a grinder. Grinder. He was in there 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.199 right after Cliff Kingsbury a lot last year just watching film. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.400 If you gave if you gave Rodney Hudson an option 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.040 to not meet the media, do you think he would 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.000 meet the media. I'd say no, he has no interest. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.079 He's all about football. So hopefully that boats well and 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.719 then working something out, whatever it might be. Yeah, And 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.319 that's exactly why, though, Paulie, I'm putting it in the 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.000 negative column. That's why I'm putting it in because everything 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.520 you just said about Rodney Hudson, that's what I know 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.800 of Rodney Hudson by reputation. I was talking to Max 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.720 Starks about it today. He said the exact same thing. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:06.679 By reputation, Roddy Hudson is a pros pro, you know it. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.080 Just I don't know what the issue is. I don't 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.200 know what the problem is. The fact that it's unexcused though, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.520 tells me that it's not something personal and that's a 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.840 good thing. Ultimate. Okay. Yeah, and look, you know, new 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.319 dad maybe he wanted to spend more time with the 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.560 newborn at home and he said, you know what, as 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.200 a super vet, forget all this offseason stuff. We didn't 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.040 even have it most of the last two years, you 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.959 know what. Either way, justin Pugh is an option, and 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:33.959 it is, you know. And he said, if I'm not 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.520 playing center, I'm back at left guard. And then everyone 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.240 looks at Justin Pure and they'll go, oh, man, do 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.880 you weigh enough to play NFL offensive line? Period? And 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.760 Dave Pash asked him about that. What weight did you 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.120 play at last year? Like two eighty five to eighty 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:47.839 and now we played the Rams. The first time we 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.520 played the Rams, I was two hundred and seventy eight 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.640 pounds in that Rams game. So everyone's telling me I'm 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.360 too skinny right now, and I'm like, I'm four pounds 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.240 off of the whitest I played at last year, and 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.079 put my film on. If you think it's a problem, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.520 put my film on. And the Cardinals obviously watched the 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.040 film in there, still paying me, so something. I gotta 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.160 get the weight back up. But in our offense, we 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.280 go so fast, and the way I play it lends itself. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.120 I'm a very aggressive player. Now he is supposed to 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.520 setting back and kind of just being like a garbage can, 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.079 and that's on the past, and he said, actually he 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.559 likes his body composition more now versus last year. He 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.079 got down to two sixty five. He's rebuilding his body 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.160 and his weight back up, and he likes the way 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.640 he's doing it. He's really taking care and making sure 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.520 he does it the right way. Yeah, you know what, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:33.400 I'm going to rip him off a garbage can with arms, PAULI. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.440 And by the way, you know he he's about as 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.440 realistic as it gets about the business of the NFL. Yeah, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.240 he told the media, Hey, until they can bring in 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.640 someone to replace me, a left guard who's better than 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.360 me as a left guard, they have to continue to 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.839 pay me. He's just he's just great at bottom lining 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.719 everything and I'm telling you it's gonna be a great list. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.200 In episode thirty two of The Day Pash Podcast featuring 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.520 Cardinals old lineman Justin Pugh, it premieres next week. To 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.000 catch up on all the episodes, follow The Day Fashion 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:04.160 Podcast your preferred podcast provider. Get the latest updates via 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.080 Twitter at pash pod. And by the way, Dave had 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:09.839 did have the best rip job of the week, and 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.160 it was at Wolf's expense. I think the line was, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.079 you know, we only feature the biggest names in the 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.040 Pash Pod. That's why we haven't had Wolf as a 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:21.160 guest yet. So that was pretty funny. Paul. That might 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.920 cost Dave during the preseason when you guys go big 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.439 time and go TV got that right? Funny funny like 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.319 how funny like clown? So all right, let's talk to 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.640 the third round rookie who was a second team All American, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.800 a guy who wore number ninety nine in college for reason? 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.559 Did Cameron Thomas finally meet J. J. Watt? And what 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.880 was that like? And Kenny really play outside linebacker because 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.520 the dude had his hand in the dirt quite a 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.920 bit in college. Cameron Thomas is next. This is the 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.679 Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert. We 0:12:52.840 --> 0:13:07.480 are Satan Ford. The Arizona Cardinals select Cameron Thomas Devins 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:13.640 evan San Diego State camp. He's super athletic. And what 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.920 you loved about Cam is you loved his interview, You 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.000 love the intensity, but and you love the way he 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.040 played the game. And also with Cam is he showed 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.280 some ability to put his hand in the ground and 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.240 play some of the five play some of the outside 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.320 backer stuff due to his athleticism. So we really loved 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:34.679 his motor, his temperament. VPA player personnel Quinn Harris on 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:38.439 The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert and 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.319 you know what, We're gonna go one better than a 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.120 scatter report. How about the real deal. How about Cameron 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:47.480 Thomas himself joining us on this edition. Cameron, how you doing? 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.839 I mean, think about it. You have your OTAs, you 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:55.000 have your mini camp. Okay, so just compare and contrast. 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.599 What has it been like compared to maybe some of 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.400 your expectations going in Um, you know, I think I 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.679 think let's right up to those expectations. You know, I 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:05.640 knew coming in here. I don't have to come in 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.280 here and work and have fun doing it. And I 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.080 think it's it's been just that, um, you know, getting 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.959 to kind of know some of these guys and UM, yeah, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.280 it's honestly, everything's been great and I've really been enjoying it. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.160 When you hear Quentin Harris go through some of the 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.640 tangibles with the things that they noticed on film, like 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.840 your intensity, your motor your effort, you sort of nodded, right, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.320 I mean you take pride in being known for that, 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.320 don't you. Yeah, No, that's definitely. UM. When I think 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.160 about me and myself as a person and a player, UM, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.320 it's all starts with effort um, you know, whether that's 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:38.880 on the field off the field. But I really try 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.720 to pride myself with my effort um in this relentlessness, 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.240 you know, So I when I go out there every 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.000 single play, I want to be just absolutely relentless. How 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.280 often when you're watching film and you make a play 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.360 or you get in on a tackle or a sack 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.880 or a pressure or a quarterback hit, how much of 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.280 it is a direct byproduct of effort, Meaning if you 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.600 would have given up on the play, you never would 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.400 have made a play. You know, I think a majority 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.720 of my college plays that I made were just because 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.920 that effort. You're long, you know sometimes when you're running 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.600 from the backside plays away from you. You know, majority 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.920 of people who think that's just um, you know, there's 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.480 there's you know, there's ten other defenders and outside of 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.080 the ball. But for me, it was really like, that's 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.200 an opportunity and that ball carre is not down on 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.000 the ground yet that's a that you know, that's a 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.440 that's a point in the statute right there. And um, 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.960 so yeah, is this kind of uh just kind of 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.680 bring the most out of myself with my effort and um, yeah, 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.120 is that feasible. I mean, is that really doable down 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.880 by down because we've heard for decades, especially defensive lineman, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.960 well they'll take a play off here there. I mean, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.720 can you really keep a consistent motor like that? I 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.440 believe you can. You know, that's just kind of where 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.760 all the work in the off season and um, just 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.360 being true to yourself where it comes into play. Um. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:45.880 You know, that's not something I just kind of woke 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.680 up one day and did. That's something that has just 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.680 been earned every single day, day and day out, just 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.200 adding up to those moments something they come, you know, 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.160 they could be reality. You know, we were talking to 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.520 GM Steve come and we're on board here with Cameron Thomas, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.320 Cardinal's third round rookie out of San Diego State rusher. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.240 And we'll get to the position in a minute. But 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.200 Steve Kine talked after the draft about how you lived 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.000 behind the line of scrimmage and when you look at 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.680 your quarterback pressures, when you look at your tackles for loss. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.320 I think you were top five in the NC Double 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.040 A in both categories. What's the key there, what's the 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.200 key to getting that sort of penetration when you're on 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.880 the defensive front again, I'll say it again. It starts 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.320 with effort, and then another part of it, you know, 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.960 is just being u well disciplined and well coached. You know, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.080 I was very blessed to have a you know, a 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.280 very good coach and Brady Hook at Standing of State 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.880 and just really believed in embought in everything he said. 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.200 And you know, that's the same kind of type of 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.600 mentality I'm trying to have on them here and they 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.560 just you know, I just I really believe it pays off. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.480 And just yeah, going back to the who I am 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.720 as a player, true or false? At one point you 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.640 were a nose tackle at San Diego State. That is true, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.000 a two hundred and forty five pound nose tackle. You 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.880 know you don't y see him very often, but uh yeah, no, 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.960 I really love that you did. I did. I really 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:57.840 enjoyed it. So at two forty five you're getting the 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.880 double team at the point of a tack, getting the 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.200 elbow team, getting the reach bump block, I mean, getting 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.639 at all. I loved it. So okay, So all right, 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.880 So it makes sense the two hundred forty five pound 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.280 nose tackle because at first classible he wait a minute, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.399 they're taking a nose tackle once upon a time, and 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.080 now they're gonna make them an edge rusher slash outside linebacker. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.400 So I guess we understand. What position do you think 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.160 is your best position? You know, I love the edge. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.040 I really do consider myself just a line player. I 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.800 mean really, I, like I said, I'd have so much 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.440 experience inside. All that toughness that I had gained inside, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.119 it translates outside just as well. And you know that 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.600 speed from the outside that I get when I go inside, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.760 that's also like creating mismatches. You know, you don't go 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.800 to two hundred forty five pound nose tackle and expect 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.320 him to do the same thing as that three hundred 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:44.800 pound or you're gonna expect him to get out the 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.440 ball faster. You can expect him use just quickness and 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.760 just kind of create mismatches throughout the line. And um, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.960 that's kind of what I kind of my philosophy of 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.240 things was. But you know, I really am enjoying myself 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.200 out in the edge right now and loving everything. Coach 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.760 bowl and just yeah, Charlie Bowling in recently a Cardinals 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.000 outside linebackers coach, and I shared with him, I said, 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:05.040 you know what, There are a couple of times were 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:06.720 going out, all right, we're checking out the rookies, the 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.159 OTAs and so forth, and you're looking at your roster 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.440 and you're like, okay, Cameron Thomas, number ninety seven, And 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.000 I walk over to the d line group and I'm like, 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:15.959 wait a minute, he's oh, well, yeah, he's out over 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.960 with the outside linebackers. Has it been a little different 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.280 for you to be training and repping with the outside 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.639 linebackers versus, you know, guys with their hands in the 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.240 dirt um. You know, it definitely was a little bit 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.600 of a transitional period, maybe a day or two, but yeah, 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.040 you know, my whole collegian career, I was handing the 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:35.840 dirt guy. And you know, when I first got here 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.760 outside linebacker, I'm standing up every play. I still have 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.680 not put my hand in the dirt yet. So yeah, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.119 you know, there's a little bit of a transition, But 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:44.960 you know, I think it's been great. I really liked 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.480 the m standing up. I really like the vision you 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:48.920 get through it, and I also feel like I really 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.399 get a good jump off the ball with it. So 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.919 I think it's been It's been fantastic sport and as 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.960 a guy who grew up watching JJ water at least 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.600 a lot in college. That's when his calling cards, right, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.640 he'll move up and down at defensive front ninety nine. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.399 Don't be virtually anywhere, correct, absolutely, And so what was 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:09.040 that moment? Like Isaiah Simmons talked about how he grew 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.240 up watching JJ Watt. Even Cliff Kingsbury this week joked 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.800 he said, you know, I still don't talk to JJ Watt, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:16.840 mean he's intimidated by him a little bit. Tell us 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.000 about the moment that you actually met the guy whose 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.920 career you followed so closely and whose number you wore 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.240 at San Diego State. Tell us about that moment, because 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.760 it has happened, right, Yeah, No, it has um Yes. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.520 I remember we were coming in. It was it was 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.439 still all the rookies getting together. It was the beginning 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.440 of rookie mining camp and I was walking in. And 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.040 the reason, you know he's earned his reputation is just 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:39.479 from the way he works. You know, we get there 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.879 as rookies around fifty in the morning and he's already 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.480 in there. You know, he's already he's getting out of 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.159 the cold tubs when we're getting in there, and just 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.480