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Speaker 1: rage taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one
Speaker 1: hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready, and wrong
Speaker 1: will flee. It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash
Speaker 1: the far Well. I hate to say it, I hate
Speaker 1: to take a shot right off the top, but HBO
Speaker 1: and Hard Knocks they done messed up. I reckon. They
Speaker 1: need to show up for the start of the season,
Speaker 1: not the end. Why do you say that, Polly Wolf?
Speaker 1: If you're looking for an Emmy Award winning reality TV
Speaker 1: and Sports is the original reality TV? How many storylines
Speaker 1: are dripping with drama as the Cardinals head into training
Speaker 1: camp two twenty two. I mean, look, the first half
Speaker 1: of the season is telling the second half of the season.
Speaker 1: Hold my beer at this point and I did, Yes,
Speaker 1: I say it now clearly, and HBO and our Knox.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you these guys messed up. They should
Speaker 1: have started a couple of weeks ago, or at least recently.
Speaker 1: When when Hollywood Brown went into his garage and found
Speaker 1: a rattlesnake. I mean, there's your welcome to Arizona moment
Speaker 1: for Hollywood Brown. Mister rattlesnake in your garage. Now, what
Speaker 1: do you do? Polly, myself and a teammates once attacked
Speaker 1: a rattlesnake in the backyard of our neighbor. We chopped
Speaker 1: its head off. Don't tell Peter Jeez, I might go
Speaker 1: Polly Peter right now. And based on that grizzly account,
Speaker 1: thank you will for improving the show with that story.
Speaker 1: Pretty very agitated Paul. See now, well, if you're a
Speaker 1: real tough guy, there was a video a few years
Speaker 1: ago of Jeremy Roenick, former Kayatie superstar, actually grabbed the
Speaker 1: rattlesnake by the nape of the neck from behind and
Speaker 1: showed the head and a lie rattlesnake right to the
Speaker 1: camera and he tweeted it out. So yeah, next time,
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that, Polly, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: admit it. You're talking about two Northeastern boys that went
Speaker 1: and attacked that rattler. Yeah. Well, and remember Hollywood stands
Speaker 1: for his hometown of Hollywood, Florida, So this is all
Speaker 1: new to Marquise Hollywood Brown. The Big Red Rage. Third
Speaker 1: round rookie outside linebacker Cameron Thomas will be our guest.
Speaker 1: Do we have questions with the third round rookie to
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have an ead for edge rusher? Yes, and
Speaker 1: yes that is coming straight ahead. But Wolf, you documented
Speaker 1: it all week long. You're sitting there doing four hours
Speaker 1: a day, and you know, for example, the first day
Speaker 1: a mandatory mini caamp, the Arizona Cardinals made Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk three separate stories made for three screaming headlines. Number one,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray showed up a camp. Number two Rodney Hudson
Speaker 1: did not show up at mandatory mini camp, and number
Speaker 1: three the guy who's getting repse at center now justin
Speaker 1: pew almost miscamp in this season entirely after seriously contemplating retirement.
Speaker 1: So there was a lot going on this week, you know, Polly,
Speaker 1: I think the big news to me was all about
Speaker 1: the offensive line. It really was just the fact that
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson is not and was not at mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 1: That to me was shocking that that really was. Now
Speaker 1: listen the OTAs, of course they're voluntary. That's one thing
Speaker 1: right there, especially when you're talking about a guy who
Speaker 1: totally has command of the offense the way that Rodney
Speaker 1: Hudson does, that is disconcerting to me. The fact that
Speaker 1: he didn't show up for mandatory minicamp, and Cliff Kingsbury said,
Speaker 1: of course he was unexcused Justin Pew moving over to center.
Speaker 1: I totally could see Justin Pew being that guy. I
Speaker 1: just never thought he would consider retirement and did consider
Speaker 1: retirement last year. Got down to two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five pounds. Bai. Yeah, let's take that in order, because
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Wolf, and that's a good recollection because
Speaker 1: here is Cliff Kingsbury little Q and A with the
Speaker 1: media because he was conspicuous by his absence. Marcus Gold,
Speaker 1: for example, had missed the entirety of the all season.
Speaker 1: But number forty four was there, number sixty one was not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no update, we're working through something with him. As soon
Speaker 1: as we know, we'll have that update. Not excused, I
Speaker 1: can't all right now. And he was asking again towards
Speaker 1: the end of the press conference and um, well, nothing
Speaker 1: further in terms of details as to what's going on
Speaker 1: other than Cliff Kingsbury saying that we're working through something.
Speaker 1: So he should have gone all Nick Saban on that, Polly,
Speaker 1: don't ask me about a guy, you know. He should
Speaker 1: have gone Nick Saban right there. Yeah, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be the Alabama head coach, right, so don't ask
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'll just speculate real quick. Okay, he's
Speaker 1: got a decade in the league. Plus I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: financially said in a lot of ways. Kelvin Beecham did
Speaker 1: offer up to the media that he's a new dad,
Speaker 1: so maybe he's thinking in terms of family first instead
Speaker 1: of football. Maybe could it also have something to do
Speaker 1: with his cap number going from two point nine last
Speaker 1: year to twelve point six this year, and maybe there's
Speaker 1: been an effort to let's just say, realign that cap number,
Speaker 1: and if they not been able to come to an agreement,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you have a gut feeling, Wolf,
Speaker 1: what could be going on here? I really don't, Polly.
Speaker 1: It is something I never considered. I did not even
Speaker 1: hear a whisper that there was anything wrong with Rodney
Speaker 1: HUDs in this offseason. I don't know, Paul. You and
Speaker 1: I have both talked about it privately and publicly, of course,
Speaker 1: and I didn't hear a whisper, and I know you
Speaker 1: didn't as well. So it was shocking. It truly was.
Speaker 1: I know this much. I'm not gonna put it in
Speaker 1: the positive category. This is gonna go in the negative category. Well,
Speaker 1: and here's Justin pu As you mentioned, he met the media,
Speaker 1: but he also went on the Dave Pash podcast. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a MUSC listen next week when it's released.
Speaker 1: But our Jim one hundred given us a little preview here.
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna wet our beacle a little bit
Speaker 1: here with Justin Peu talking about potentially playing center for
Speaker 1: good because he's been taking reps there this offseason. I've
Speaker 1: never played center before in my career, but I've seen
Speaker 1: guys play center, lat to their careers. Center mentally is
Speaker 1: just so much tougher, and in our offense, the center
Speaker 1: makes a lot of the calls. That's why we've prioritized
Speaker 1: that position every offseason. We clearly value that position. So
Speaker 1: for me, it's like, if I'm gonna keep teaching pay
Speaker 1: cuts a guard, maybe I should move to center and
Speaker 1: see if I can do that. But I'll do whatever's
Speaker 1: best for the team. I've played guard, playing guards like
Speaker 1: riding a bike for him, and you can put me
Speaker 1: out there, and I know what I gotta do. So
Speaker 1: to get some reps at center and see how that
Speaker 1: shakes out. It's interesting, it's fun. It makes you break
Speaker 1: a mental sweat, and I learn a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I know, made me better if I want to be
Speaker 1: a broadcaster, because you gotta learn coverages and do all
Speaker 1: those things. At the very least, it's gonna help my
Speaker 1: broadcasting career. That's a little joke from Justin pu as
Speaker 1: a great sense of humor. I think about that Wolf.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a highly intelligent guy both football and beyond.
Speaker 1: He's got a decade in the league himself, and if
Speaker 1: he's saying that center is such a mental challenge, then
Speaker 1: for example, like a Lucida Smith coming in as a rookie,
Speaker 1: no chance I ever played center before that. That no
Speaker 1: way you can risk that. So I'm guessing if it's
Speaker 1: not Rodney Hudson, it's justin pure Sean Harlowe as it
Speaker 1: stands right now. Yeah, it was kind of like looking
Speaker 1: at Zaven Collins last year and saying that Zaven Collins
Speaker 1: was gonna come and he was gonna call the defense
Speaker 1: from the mic linebacker. Not realistic, Not realistic at all,
Speaker 1: PAULI right there, listen, justin pu He's got the mentals,
Speaker 1: as they say, he's got the mentality, and he's got
Speaker 1: the intellect to actually play the center position. He also
Speaker 1: has the feet to play the center position. Here's the
Speaker 1: one thing that I do wonder about, though, the mechanics
Speaker 1: of snapping the ball and making your block, snapping the
Speaker 1: ball and taking the step simultaneously. It's something you've got
Speaker 1: to be able to do, and you've got to be
Speaker 1: able to do it well, and you've got to be
Speaker 1: able to do it accurately. And I just don't know, man,
Speaker 1: a guy who doesn't have a ton of experience at
Speaker 1: center trying to actually learn it. This late in his career.
Speaker 1: I mean, theoretically, Cardinals could open training camp in the
Speaker 1: first team session and we're watching and you know, fans
Speaker 1: will be allowed again this year, and we're all watching.
Speaker 1: There's the first team offensive line and left or right
Speaker 1: it's Dj Humphrey's Will Hernandez a left guard, Justin Pewitt center.
Speaker 1: You have Justin Murray at right guard, and then Kelvin
Speaker 1: Beecham at right tackle. I mean that's the way it
Speaker 1: stands right now, until we get further answers. Any answers
Speaker 1: on the status or Hodney Hudson. Yeah, no, Um, you're right, man,
Speaker 1: But the offensive line, it's it's I'm not giving up
Speaker 1: on Rodney Hudson right now. Yeah, I am not. I'm
Speaker 1: not ready he emotionally, Paul, you know what, to sit
Speaker 1: there and say they're not they're gonna go to trade again,
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be any Rodney Hudson. I'm not emotionally
Speaker 1: ready to do that, Paul. And we've talked about this
Speaker 1: as well, and that is a Rodney Hudson is a baller.
Speaker 1: That dude is a grinder. Grinder. He was in there
Speaker 1: right after Cliff Kingsbury a lot last year just watching film.
Speaker 1: If you gave if you gave Rodney Hudson an option
Speaker 1: to not meet the media, do you think he would
Speaker 1: meet the media. I'd say no, he has no interest.
Speaker 1: He's all about football. So hopefully that boats well and
Speaker 1: then working something out, whatever it might be. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's exactly why, though, Paulie, I'm putting it in the
Speaker 1: negative column. That's why I'm putting it in because everything
Speaker 1: you just said about Rodney Hudson, that's what I know
Speaker 1: of Rodney Hudson by reputation. I was talking to Max
Speaker 1: Starks about it today. He said the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: By reputation, Roddy Hudson is a pros pro, you know it.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know what the issue is. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the problem is. The fact that it's unexcused though,
Speaker 1: tells me that it's not something personal and that's a
Speaker 1: good thing. Ultimate. Okay. Yeah, and look, you know, new
Speaker 1: dad maybe he wanted to spend more time with the
Speaker 1: newborn at home and he said, you know what, as
Speaker 1: a super vet, forget all this offseason stuff. We didn't
Speaker 1: even have it most of the last two years, you
Speaker 1: know what. Either way, justin Pugh is an option, and
Speaker 1: it is, you know. And he said, if I'm not
Speaker 1: playing center, I'm back at left guard. And then everyone
Speaker 1: looks at Justin Pure and they'll go, oh, man, do
Speaker 1: you weigh enough to play NFL offensive line? Period? And
Speaker 1: Dave Pash asked him about that. What weight did you
Speaker 1: play at last year? Like two eighty five to eighty
Speaker 1: and now we played the Rams. The first time we
Speaker 1: played the Rams, I was two hundred and seventy eight
Speaker 1: pounds in that Rams game. So everyone's telling me I'm
Speaker 1: too skinny right now, and I'm like, I'm four pounds
Speaker 1: off of the whitest I played at last year, and
Speaker 1: put my film on. If you think it's a problem,
Speaker 1: put my film on. And the Cardinals obviously watched the
Speaker 1: film in there, still paying me, so something. I gotta
Speaker 1: get the weight back up. But in our offense, we
Speaker 1: go so fast, and the way I play it lends itself.
Speaker 1: I'm a very aggressive player. Now he is supposed to
Speaker 1: setting back and kind of just being like a garbage can,
Speaker 1: and that's on the past, and he said, actually he
Speaker 1: likes his body composition more now versus last year. He
Speaker 1: got down to two sixty five. He's rebuilding his body
Speaker 1: and his weight back up, and he likes the way
Speaker 1: he's doing it. He's really taking care and making sure
Speaker 1: he does it the right way. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to rip him off a garbage can with arms, PAULI.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know he he's about as
Speaker 1: realistic as it gets about the business of the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he told the media, Hey, until they can bring in
Speaker 1: someone to replace me, a left guard who's better than
Speaker 1: me as a left guard, they have to continue to
Speaker 1: pay me. He's just he's just great at bottom lining
Speaker 1: everything and I'm telling you it's gonna be a great list.
Speaker 1: In episode thirty two of The Day Pash Podcast featuring
Speaker 1: Cardinals old lineman Justin Pugh, it premieres next week. To
Speaker 1: catch up on all the episodes, follow The Day Fashion
Speaker 1: Podcast your preferred podcast provider. Get the latest updates via
Speaker 1: Twitter at pash pod. And by the way, Dave had
Speaker 1: did have the best rip job of the week, and
Speaker 1: it was at Wolf's expense. I think the line was,
Speaker 1: you know, we only feature the biggest names in the
Speaker 1: Pash Pod. That's why we haven't had Wolf as a
Speaker 1: guest yet. So that was pretty funny. Paul. That might
Speaker 1: cost Dave during the preseason when you guys go big
Speaker 1: time and go TV got that right? Funny funny like
Speaker 1: how funny like clown? So all right, let's talk to
Speaker 1: the third round rookie who was a second team All American,
Speaker 1: a guy who wore number ninety nine in college for reason?
Speaker 1: Did Cameron Thomas finally meet J. J. Watt? And what
Speaker 1: was that like? And Kenny really play outside linebacker because
Speaker 1: the dude had his hand in the dirt quite a
Speaker 1: bit in college. Cameron Thomas is next. This is the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert. We
Speaker 1: are Satan Ford. The Arizona Cardinals select Cameron Thomas Devins
Speaker 1: evan San Diego State camp. He's super athletic. And what
Speaker 1: you loved about Cam is you loved his interview, You
Speaker 1: love the intensity, but and you love the way he
Speaker 1: played the game. And also with Cam is he showed
Speaker 1: some ability to put his hand in the ground and
Speaker 1: play some of the five play some of the outside
Speaker 1: backer stuff due to his athleticism. So we really loved
Speaker 1: his motor, his temperament. VPA player personnel Quinn Harris on
Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert and
Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna go one better than a
Speaker 1: scatter report. How about the real deal. How about Cameron
Speaker 1: Thomas himself joining us on this edition. Cameron, how you doing?
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. You have your OTAs, you
Speaker 1: have your mini camp. Okay, so just compare and contrast.
Speaker 1: What has it been like compared to maybe some of
Speaker 1: your expectations going in Um, you know, I think I
Speaker 1: think let's right up to those expectations. You know, I
Speaker 1: knew coming in here. I don't have to come in
Speaker 1: here and work and have fun doing it. And I
Speaker 1: think it's it's been just that, um, you know, getting
Speaker 1: to kind of know some of these guys and UM, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's honestly, everything's been great and I've really been enjoying it.
Speaker 1: When you hear Quentin Harris go through some of the
Speaker 1: tangibles with the things that they noticed on film, like
Speaker 1: your intensity, your motor your effort, you sort of nodded, right,
Speaker 1: I mean you take pride in being known for that,
Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah, No, that's definitely. UM. When I think
Speaker 1: about me and myself as a person and a player, UM,
Speaker 1: it's all starts with effort um, you know, whether that's
Speaker 1: on the field off the field. But I really try
Speaker 1: to pride myself with my effort um in this relentlessness,
Speaker 1: you know, So I when I go out there every
Speaker 1: single play, I want to be just absolutely relentless. How
Speaker 1: often when you're watching film and you make a play
Speaker 1: or you get in on a tackle or a sack
Speaker 1: or a pressure or a quarterback hit, how much of
Speaker 1: it is a direct byproduct of effort, Meaning if you
Speaker 1: would have given up on the play, you never would
Speaker 1: have made a play. You know, I think a majority
Speaker 1: of my college plays that I made were just because
Speaker 1: that effort. You're long, you know sometimes when you're running
Speaker 1: from the backside plays away from you. You know, majority
Speaker 1: of people who think that's just um, you know, there's
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's ten other defenders and outside of
Speaker 1: the ball. But for me, it was really like, that's
Speaker 1: an opportunity and that ball carre is not down on
Speaker 1: the ground yet that's a that you know, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a point in the statute right there. And um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, is this kind of uh just kind of
Speaker 1: bring the most out of myself with my effort and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: is that feasible. I mean, is that really doable down
Speaker 1: by down because we've heard for decades, especially defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: well they'll take a play off here there. I mean,
Speaker 1: can you really keep a consistent motor like that? I
Speaker 1: believe you can. You know, that's just kind of where
Speaker 1: all the work in the off season and um, just
Speaker 1: being true to yourself where it comes into play. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, that's not something I just kind of woke
Speaker 1: up one day and did. That's something that has just
Speaker 1: been earned every single day, day and day out, just
Speaker 1: adding up to those moments something they come, you know,
Speaker 1: they could be reality. You know, we were talking to
Speaker 1: GM Steve come and we're on board here with Cameron Thomas,
Speaker 1: Cardinal's third round rookie out of San Diego State rusher.
Speaker 1: And we'll get to the position in a minute. But
Speaker 1: Steve Kine talked after the draft about how you lived
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage and when you look at
Speaker 1: your quarterback pressures, when you look at your tackles for loss.
Speaker 1: I think you were top five in the NC Double
Speaker 1: A in both categories. What's the key there, what's the
Speaker 1: key to getting that sort of penetration when you're on
Speaker 1: the defensive front again, I'll say it again. It starts
Speaker 1: with effort, and then another part of it, you know,
Speaker 1: is just being u well disciplined and well coached. You know,
Speaker 1: I was very blessed to have a you know, a
Speaker 1: very good coach and Brady Hook at Standing of State
Speaker 1: and just really believed in embought in everything he said.
Speaker 1: And you know, that's the same kind of type of
Speaker 1: mentality I'm trying to have on them here and they
Speaker 1: just you know, I just I really believe it pays off.
Speaker 1: And just yeah, going back to the who I am
Speaker 1: as a player, true or false? At one point you
Speaker 1: were a nose tackle at San Diego State. That is true,
Speaker 1: a two hundred and forty five pound nose tackle. You
Speaker 1: know you don't y see him very often, but uh yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I really love that you did. I did. I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. So at two forty five you're getting the
Speaker 1: double team at the point of a tack, getting the
Speaker 1: elbow team, getting the reach bump block, I mean, getting
Speaker 1: at all. I loved it. So okay, So all right,
Speaker 1: So it makes sense the two hundred forty five pound
Speaker 1: nose tackle because at first classible he wait a minute,
Speaker 1: they're taking a nose tackle once upon a time, and
Speaker 1: now they're gonna make them an edge rusher slash outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: So I guess we understand. What position do you think
Speaker 1: is your best position? You know, I love the edge.
Speaker 1: I really do consider myself just a line player. I
Speaker 1: mean really, I, like I said, I'd have so much
Speaker 1: experience inside. All that toughness that I had gained inside,
Speaker 1: it translates outside just as well. And you know that
Speaker 1: speed from the outside that I get when I go inside,
Speaker 1: that's also like creating mismatches. You know, you don't go
Speaker 1: to two hundred forty five pound nose tackle and expect
Speaker 1: him to do the same thing as that three hundred
Speaker 1: pound or you're gonna expect him to get out the
Speaker 1: ball faster. You can expect him use just quickness and
Speaker 1: just kind of create mismatches throughout the line. And um,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I kind of my philosophy of
Speaker 1: things was. But you know, I really am enjoying myself
Speaker 1: out in the edge right now and loving everything. Coach
Speaker 1: bowl and just yeah, Charlie Bowling in recently a Cardinals
Speaker 1: outside linebackers coach, and I shared with him, I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, There are a couple of times were
Speaker 1: going out, all right, we're checking out the rookies, the
Speaker 1: OTAs and so forth, and you're looking at your roster
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, Cameron Thomas, number ninety seven, And
Speaker 1: I walk over to the d line group and I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, he's oh, well, yeah, he's out over
Speaker 1: with the outside linebackers. Has it been a little different
Speaker 1: for you to be training and repping with the outside
Speaker 1: linebackers versus, you know, guys with their hands in the
Speaker 1: dirt um. You know, it definitely was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a transitional period, maybe a day or two, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, my whole collegian career, I was handing the
Speaker 1: dirt guy. And you know, when I first got here
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, I'm standing up every play. I still have
Speaker 1: not put my hand in the dirt yet. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a little bit of a transition, But
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's been great. I really liked
Speaker 1: the m standing up. I really like the vision you
Speaker 1: get through it, and I also feel like I really
Speaker 1: get a good jump off the ball with it. So
Speaker 1: I think it's been It's been fantastic sport and as
Speaker 1: a guy who grew up watching JJ water at least
Speaker 1: a lot in college. That's when his calling cards, right,
Speaker 1: he'll move up and down at defensive front ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Don't be virtually anywhere, correct, absolutely, And so what was
Speaker 1: that moment? Like Isaiah Simmons talked about how he grew
Speaker 1: up watching JJ Watt. Even Cliff Kingsbury this week joked
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I still don't talk to JJ Watt,
Speaker 1: mean he's intimidated by him a little bit. Tell us
Speaker 1: about the moment that you actually met the guy whose
Speaker 1: career you followed so closely and whose number you wore
Speaker 1: at San Diego State. Tell us about that moment, because
Speaker 1: it has happened, right, Yeah, No, it has um Yes.
Speaker 1: I remember we were coming in. It was it was
Speaker 1: still all the rookies getting together. It was the beginning
Speaker 1: of rookie mining camp and I was walking in. And
Speaker 1: the reason, you know he's earned his reputation is just
Speaker 1: from the way he works. You know, we get there
Speaker 1: as rookies around fifty in the morning and he's already
Speaker 1: in there. You know, he's already he's getting out of
Speaker 1: the cold tubs when we're getting in there, and just
Speaker 1: shows why he is why he is. And um I
Speaker 1: got in there. It was going to the training room
Speaker 1: and he was just doing some normal stretching like that,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to distract him or anything. I
Speaker 1: just came in there give him. I just introduced my
Speaker 1: self to him real quick, and it was quick and short,
Speaker 1: but it was really cool. Do you find yourself when
Speaker 1: you have a down moment, you get some gatorade, you're
Speaker 1: looking around the field, where's ninety nine? Do you find
Speaker 1: your eyes kind of going his way? It's not very
Speaker 1: hard to find him, you know. Um no, yeah, what
Speaker 1: about when you watched his film? What do you think
Speaker 1: you learned over the years watching his game? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: I learned actually a lot from his game. And one
Speaker 1: thing I loved about his game that really translated with
Speaker 1: me is, you know, him being able to play up
Speaker 1: and down the line of scrimmage and just dominating anywhere
Speaker 1: you're gonna line him up, pieces is going to dominate.
Speaker 1: And I believe it really starts with obviously he's worth
Speaker 1: O think skill and all that, but it's his mentality,
Speaker 1: you know that that mentality that I'm going to beat
Speaker 1: you no matter where I line up, And um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from him, you know, whether it
Speaker 1: was on the edge and you know, kind of flashing hands,
Speaker 1: dipping around the edge, or inside you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: taking a couple of steps up on the guard, getting
Speaker 1: the guard to fan out on him, and then countering
Speaker 1: making the inside move and just yeah, I've learned a
Speaker 1: lot from him. Hey, Cameron Thomas our guest here on
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage third round picks. So like Sanders
Speaker 1: as well, have you guys bought it? Just the fact
Speaker 1: you play the same position you were taking in the
Speaker 1: same round. Yeah, absolutely, It's been great working with maj
Speaker 1: Why would you describe his game because I know you
Speaker 1: guys are quite different in a lot of ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: way you approach the game and just your skill sets,
Speaker 1: body types. But it tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: what you've seen out of him. Yeah, be able to
Speaker 1: work with moj is great. Especially one thing I do
Speaker 1: like as how they kind of drafted different a little
Speaker 1: bit different players. You know, he's a very speed player.
Speaker 1: I mean he jump off the ball as was one
Speaker 1: of the best I've ever seen. And yeah, so be
Speaker 1: able to have that on one side then versus you know,
Speaker 1: have me on the other side with you know, a
Speaker 1: little more power to my game, and it's definitely creates
Speaker 1: a lot of different mismatches and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard like DJ Humphreys, Cardinals starting left tackle, has
Speaker 1: been the host of big red rage for many years,
Speaker 1: and he let it be known that, you know what,
Speaker 1: as a left tackle, if you're going to keep the
Speaker 1: same guy in there the entire game, I'm going to
Speaker 1: get used to what he brings in his body. But
Speaker 1: let's just say the Cardinals in a game this year,
Speaker 1: go with the maj Sanders and they roteet into Cameron
Speaker 1: Thomas and then here comes Dennis Gardak right six foot
Speaker 1: even or so, a pit bull kind of guy, and
Speaker 1: then a Devon Knard. I would imagine that could be
Speaker 1: a challenge left tackle, just bringing the whole arsenal one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're changing it up on the offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: that's got to be to your advantage, I would think, absolutely.
Speaker 1: So when you're out here, what sort of impression if
Speaker 1: you tried to leave on the coaches going into training
Speaker 1: camp with that being just over a month a month
Speaker 1: or six weeks away or so. You know, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to be myself out here. And I just like
Speaker 1: I said before, discipline is it is a huge thing
Speaker 1: for me. So I'm just trying to show them the
Speaker 1: person I am in the player I am. What's been
Speaker 1: your biggest challenge so far? Cameron Thomas, Cardinal's third round pick.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys at this point will say the
Speaker 1: playbook is that accurate or is it something else? You know,
Speaker 1: the playbook's obviously been a little bit of a struggle,
Speaker 1: but you know, I've been taking my time outside of
Speaker 1: here and really trying to make sure I make the
Speaker 1: best opportunity. One thing I am struggling with, I guess
Speaker 1: I would say, is man, I gotta get a watch.
Speaker 1: I get a watch man. I'm kind of a little
Speaker 1: too close to so many of these meetings, but um, yeah,
Speaker 1: another playbook has been um kind of something I've taken
Speaker 1: in my own hand. What about your cell phone? Can
Speaker 1: you can you? Can you set the alarm on your
Speaker 1: cell phone? Cameraon that? I can do? Yep, that I
Speaker 1: can do. But I don't always have my phone on
Speaker 1: him at all times. So because what's the rule if
Speaker 1: you're five minutes early, you're late? Is that sort of
Speaker 1: the rule in the NFL? That is it? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I got you, all right, So you've heard it from
Speaker 1: Charlie Bolling. Yep, that's good. All right. So what do
Speaker 1: you have plan between now and Yeah, the rookies have
Speaker 1: to stay through the end of the month. I get it.
Speaker 1: But you're there's gonna be a few weeks of downtime.
Speaker 1: What you're planning, You're going back to your hometown of
Speaker 1: San Diego. That is your hometown, right, Yes, there it is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was born and raised in Carsbay, San Diego, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, I got some people out there I already
Speaker 1: have lined up to work with, and I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to um use that as an opportunity to get a jump. See,
Speaker 1: you grew up seeing all the Arizona license plates in
Speaker 1: the summer. Now you're gonna have the Arizona license plate
Speaker 1: in the summer. That's all that's gonna work, right, That's
Speaker 1: gonna be me. How exciting is it, though, just this
Speaker 1: moment to be launching your NFL career, because I know
Speaker 1: you're all about football, right, I mean, this is gotta
Speaker 1: be a big deal. It means, it means everything's me
Speaker 1: be able to wear that little badge on my chest
Speaker 1: up during practice the NFL badge. I mean it really
Speaker 1: just brings a little kid out of me. I mean seriously,
Speaker 1: it just really it means a lot to me. All Right,
Speaker 1: So you're gonna continue to foster that relationship with JJ
Speaker 1: Watt as we wrap it up. You're sort of picking
Speaker 1: your spots, aren't you to engage him? Yeah? No, I
Speaker 1: mean he's a busy man. Like I said, you know,
Speaker 1: he's always doing something and I really respect him for
Speaker 1: doing that. Cameron. We respect to you for giving us
Speaker 1: some of your time, and we look forward to training camp,
Speaker 1: you and my j Sanders and what some of the
Speaker 1: other rookiees are going to do this year Austin. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on. Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas, everyone, your Mountain West defensive player of the year,
Speaker 1: started all fourteen games a year ago, and he'll be
Speaker 1: out there in training current camp, trying to earn some
Speaker 1: time as a Cardinals, trying to generate a pass rush
Speaker 1: minus Chandler Jones this year. Hey, there's opportunity for playing time.
Speaker 1: There was no doubt about it. Avance Joseph's deep and
Speaker 1: so we'll be back with more on the Big Red Race,
Speaker 1: which was in a by Santan Boord and Gilbert. After this, Jackson,
Speaker 1: I'm burned down. Watch the throw going deep looking for
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and touch up Hollywood Row price surprise. He
Speaker 1: is a guy that makes sense for a number of reasons.
Speaker 1: Number one, two years of control costs, getting a dynamic
Speaker 1: receiver who's played inside outside obviously, the chemistry with our quarterback,
Speaker 1: and a guy who can be a dynamic vertical thread,
Speaker 1: which is something we were looking for as well. As
Speaker 1: I had a very strong feeling that the board was
Speaker 1: going to fall away. It did, and I'm awfully glad
Speaker 1: that we made this trade. It's Jim Steve Kime. Not
Speaker 1: long after the Cardinals finalize that trade for Hollywood Brown,
Speaker 1: Marquise Hollywood Brown is an Arizona Cardinal from Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: After a first round of the draft where the top
Speaker 1: six receivers went before pick number twenty rules are picking
Speaker 1: twenty three. That was the reference there, and you heard
Speaker 1: one of his big time touchdown catches on the Ravens
Speaker 1: radio network. I tell you a Wolf and you've seen
Speaker 1: it as well. It's hard not to notice number one
Speaker 1: throwing a number two in these OTAs and the Mini
Speaker 1: camps man. They have instant chemistry. And we talked about
Speaker 1: it this week, didn't we not that if you were
Speaker 1: taken a rookie first round receiver, there definitely would have
Speaker 1: been a learning curve. There is with every single rookie receiver.
Speaker 1: But this is plug and play. Yeah, Paul, you know
Speaker 1: you've been out there watching him, Paul, I typically have
Speaker 1: been broadcasting, but you've actually had the opportunity to watch
Speaker 1: him go out there and play. Listen, he's the run
Speaker 1: by guy the Arizona Cardinals needed. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: something we've talked about, but this is going to open
Speaker 1: up a lot of room for de Hop and zach Ertz.
Speaker 1: It just is you cannot even believe the kind of
Speaker 1: impact that a receiver who can run the way that
Speaker 1: Marquis Brown can run is actually going to open things
Speaker 1: up for so many other guys. That's number one, and
Speaker 1: produce big numbers himself. Paul, it sound like, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's not just him without the ball, it's him with
Speaker 1: the ball. He could produce himself. That's number two. And
Speaker 1: number three is you know what you think of the
Speaker 1: offense that he comes from. Now, it's a heavy twelve
Speaker 1: personnel run first offense with the Ravens right, mixing the
Speaker 1: old and the new. Very similar to what I expect
Speaker 1: to see the Cardinals do a little bit this year.
Speaker 1: And he was the number one receiver. When d Hop
Speaker 1: actually gets back into the fold after week six, he's
Speaker 1: not going to be asked to be the number one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he's mentioned that, has he not about how he
Speaker 1: looks forward to the fact that DApp will be the
Speaker 1: guy getting the double coverage or the brack of the
Speaker 1: safety over the top. That's something that would always happen
Speaker 1: to him in Baltimore. And you know what, and that
Speaker 1: Greg Roman offense in Baltimore, You're right, it was run first,
Speaker 1: it was tight end second, and then it was receivers third.
Speaker 1: It might have been Lamar running third and then receivers fourth,
Speaker 1: I mean in the packing orders. So the Cardinals feel
Speaker 1: like they can unlock some of this big playability of
Speaker 1: Marquis Hollywood Brown. In fact, Cliff Kingsbury was asked about
Speaker 1: that he can stretch the defense. There's no doubt vertically,
Speaker 1: I mean, he can really roll. He had a bunch
Speaker 1: of big plays last year, could have had more. I
Speaker 1: felt like that's an aspect. You know, having aj Rondo
Speaker 1: him guys that can can stretch the field from all
Speaker 1: angles is going to be good for us. And you
Speaker 1: heard Steep Kimes say about he can play inside and outside.
Speaker 1: And look, we love Christian Kirk. Okay, he's our guy,
Speaker 1: and he's a great guess so many times in the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage. But but Wolf, you tell me he
Speaker 1: was much more effective inside than Christian Kirk ever was outside. Right, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're right about that, PAULI. And once again, way to
Speaker 1: go Christian, way to go a bad guy. I'm just saying, right,
Speaker 1: there are good things to Christian Kirk. But yeah, listen, um,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to have so many different weapons
Speaker 1: to use. And yes, eleven personnel is going to be
Speaker 1: one of those eleven personnel, whether it's in rundown situation
Speaker 1: or otherwise, that is going to be really intriguing to me.
Speaker 1: One back, one tight end, in three wides. Who are
Speaker 1: the three wide receivers going to be? They're gonna have
Speaker 1: multiple eleven personnel packages, Paul, multiple Typically you don't typically
Speaker 1: you just okay, it's what's our starting eleven personnel? One back,
Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide. Like I said, you know
Speaker 1: what they might mix and match the three wide receivers
Speaker 1: that are going to be in a game, not only
Speaker 1: that Paulie. They may say, um, that tight end, it's
Speaker 1: not always gonna be zach Ertz. When we go eleven personnel,
Speaker 1: that tight end might be Trey McBride. That tight end
Speaker 1: might be Max Williams, depending on the personnel group. Once again,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have multiple eleven personnel groups. That's exciting, all
Speaker 1: those weapons. Cliff Kingsbury made a dead pan comment to
Speaker 1: the media. I think he was joking, not joking that
Speaker 1: he needs his three weeks of vacation for mental health
Speaker 1: because when he gets back and then de Hop gets back,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a lot of these guys. Yea, and
Speaker 1: at him as the play caller. You know, where are
Speaker 1: my targets? You know? Because somebody give me the dang
Speaker 1: ball and there's only one of them. So it's a
Speaker 1: good headache to have, There's no doubt about it. And
Speaker 1: I also like that that Marquis Hollywood Brown and Rondale
Speaker 1: Moore are already pushing each other. These are two guys
Speaker 1: who are similar in size and speed. They're already feeling
Speaker 1: questions Who's faster, who's going to be more productive and so,
Speaker 1: and then we found out about Hollywood Brown and just
Speaker 1: what sort of practice player is. He's known as a
Speaker 1: grinder in fact, in fact, he was asked, Okay, are
Speaker 1: you taking time off? And if so, how and when
Speaker 1: between now and camp? No, I'm going over starting tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: starting tomorrow. Get my body right, and then you know
Speaker 1: whoever Kyler's at, That's where I'm gonna be. That's and
Speaker 1: you know what, we found out this week that they've
Speaker 1: been spending a lot more time together in the Dallas
Speaker 1: area than we anticipated. So, look, they enjoy each other's company.
Speaker 1: They're really close friends. Marquis Salio Brown knows that he
Speaker 1: wants to have a big season, obviously with that contract
Speaker 1: hanging into the balance. So the best way to learn
Speaker 1: the offense and be effective and hang out with one
Speaker 1: of his good friends. You know what, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to go where Kyler is. Yeah. You know what I
Speaker 1: love about that? Marquis is a dog. He's Paul. This
Speaker 1: is a guy that loves to practice. You're just telling
Speaker 1: me right now that a guy loves to practice. He
Speaker 1: just I don't care who it is, Paul, what the
Speaker 1: name is how much money he's making. If you tell me,
Speaker 1: here's the guy that loves to practice and gives a
Speaker 1: lot of effort when he practiced, I'll tell you right alcohol,
Speaker 1: that dude's a dog. He is. And you know what,
Speaker 1: if you look at his backstory, he didn't get a
Speaker 1: Division one scholarship right out of high school. He had
Speaker 1: to go to Southern California from Florida. He had to
Speaker 1: work a side job and then play ball to a
Speaker 1: junior college to put himself through junior college. And then
Speaker 1: he earned it on the field. Boom, he got the
Speaker 1: scholarship to Oklahoma. Then him and Kyler on the scout team,
Speaker 1: they said they would just go out and they knew
Speaker 1: they weren't playing in the game. Was Baker Mayfield and
Speaker 1: company when Bake was winning the Heisman. They'd go out
Speaker 1: and just try and torch the first team defense. That
Speaker 1: was their game day during practice in the week. So
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's used to earning it. And then
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury was asked about Kyler, and you know what
Speaker 1: he can teach Hollywood Brown at this point during those workouts,
Speaker 1: Kyler can signal things out to him, talk through the offense,
Speaker 1: how we do things, pace of play all that and
Speaker 1: just continue to build that rapport. Getting that timing together
Speaker 1: is huge anytime you can have that type of work.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they already have that chemistry, Wolf, you
Speaker 1: tell me, because too often last year we saw Kyler
Speaker 1: not quite have some of that chemistry with his receivers.
Speaker 1: Aj Green has been blunt and honest and is pointing
Speaker 1: the finger out himself and he needs to work on
Speaker 1: his relationship with Kyler Murray. So it seems like you
Speaker 1: know it once again, it's just plug and play Hollywood
Speaker 1: and Kyler. Yeah, no, paul it is. It's a huge
Speaker 1: advantage right now, it really is. You think of Derek
Speaker 1: Carrn Davante Adams, right, yep, these guys that were former teammates, Paulie,
Speaker 1: they were friends. Of course they've got that chemistry. This
Speaker 1: is exactly what Kyler Murray has with Hollywood Brown Man.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why I really do believe this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a super Bowl caliber offense. And you know
Speaker 1: what if something else that stands out as we hit
Speaker 1: zoom out on the offseason, and we just talked to
Speaker 1: the rookie Cameron Thomas. If you go back to win.
Speaker 1: Trey McBride, the second round rookie tight end out of
Speaker 1: Colorado State, met the media. He made a comment in
Speaker 1: response to why would the Cardinals take a tight end,
Speaker 1: and Trey McBride told the media that coach Cliff wants
Speaker 1: to disguise the offense a little bit more. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: sort of validates your point, does it not? Of what
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were when they had Max Williams. So now
Speaker 1: if they're able to get Tray McBride and hopefully get
Speaker 1: Max Williams healthy and just sort of keep some of
Speaker 1: these teams on their heels a little bit more, perhaps,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's a big reason why each of the
Speaker 1: last two years, in the latter part of the season,
Speaker 1: with all the film that was out there, maybe just
Speaker 1: maybe the Cardinals offense got a little too predictable. Yeah, Pauline,
Speaker 1: always remember this as well. Super Bowl caliber always means
Speaker 1: prove it. Hey, we'll continue to do that in the
Speaker 1: big red rage position battles. Next, keeps up on the football.
Speaker 1: This time of the two backs set on fristant goal
Speaker 1: right right is Noah Grad. I want to give it
Speaker 1: up Daryl Williams. That's a back to the left ter
Speaker 1: cutting right into the end zone. Touchdo Chansas City. Daryl Williams,
Speaker 1: smart and tough, cutting back to his left homes parking
Speaker 1: up the calls right foot in front of the left
Speaker 1: of the near hatch, takes the snaptos and the flat
Speaker 1: darrel way at fifteen ten five lid touchdown Kansas City.
Speaker 1: The Raiders still aren't covering Darryl Williams. It's a twenty
Speaker 1: three yard touch down on a flat route in yards
Speaker 1: after the catch by d will About Chiefs Radio Networks.
Speaker 1: Some big moments, some big plays in big games from
Speaker 1: Daryl Williams over the last few years. Smart and tough wolf,
Speaker 1: So you know what the potential to be worthy of
Speaker 1: the number twenty four in the running back room like
Speaker 1: you once upon a time with the Arizona Cardinals. How
Speaker 1: about ball? Thank you very much. I'm waiting for the
Speaker 1: attack now momentarily, but let me just say this, Darryl Williams.
Speaker 1: We had the opportunity BOLLI to actually speak with Darryl
Speaker 1: Williams and I have not met. Do tell Can I
Speaker 1: tell you right now? It's very interesting. Um, he's a
Speaker 1: lot bigger and a lot thicker than what I thought
Speaker 1: he was going to be thicker as an AJ Dylan thick. No, Paul,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, like like his leg day, like that
Speaker 1: kind of thick legs. Yes, the butt and thighs were thick, Paul.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying right now now. He said he told
Speaker 1: us at the time, Darryl that he wanted to lose
Speaker 1: some weight, still needed to lose some weight, but man,
Speaker 1: I told him, don't just keep it right where you are. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I mean. Arguably, that running back
Speaker 1: room is going to be the most loaded position group
Speaker 1: perhaps on this team going into camp. Considering you already
Speaker 1: have a Pro Bowl running back in James Connor. We
Speaker 1: know Darryl Williams coming off a season where he had
Speaker 1: a thousand all scrimmage yards, think starting only seven to
Speaker 1: seventeen games for Kansas City, still had a thousand yards
Speaker 1: from scrimmage. And then you have maybe the guy who's
Speaker 1: the up and comer of the off season, and that
Speaker 1: would be Eno Benjamin who has gotten multiple props from
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. And that's not the only one. Listened to
Speaker 1: Justin Pugh on the Day Pash podcast. I think James
Speaker 1: kind of keeps that that same role we'll go out
Speaker 1: there be short yardage. He I mean, he was getting
Speaker 1: out in the passing game, doing screens, doing all those things.
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. I think a guy to look for,
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin, he looked great in mini camps so far.
Speaker 1: He's probably been our best outside zone running back that
Speaker 1: we've had on the roster, even last year, and he
Speaker 1: had to learn how to pass protect and that was
Speaker 1: really the only thing. You can't trust the guy to
Speaker 1: be in the game if you can't trust him to
Speaker 1: pick up in pass protection. And he's gone night and
Speaker 1: day from last year this year. So I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a big jump. Well what did he say
Speaker 1: right there? Did he see the outside zone? Did you
Speaker 1: hear him say that? Pauls what he said? Oh? Baby,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about, Paul. That is the package
Speaker 1: of plays that is the panacea. It is what's the
Speaker 1: passa Part two for the Arizona Cardinals, the end all
Speaker 1: be all the key that under Paul, that is huge
Speaker 1: right there. Honestly, you tell me they're gonna run the
Speaker 1: tackle zone and the package of plays that come off
Speaker 1: of that as their base man, that is good news
Speaker 1: to me. I tell you might want to end the
Speaker 1: show right there, considering Wolf's reaction. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can even follow that up.
Speaker 1: But there was the question I was going to go with,
Speaker 1: is that if James Connor is a power back, and
Speaker 1: he is, although we learned he has a lot more
Speaker 1: in that toolbox right especially catching the ball, and he
Speaker 1: can house it. He can finish some of the Dary
Speaker 1: Williams is a big back. If Eno Benjamin, who is
Speaker 1: in great shape, like now Rook looks great, do you
Speaker 1: think he fills a Chase Edmonds type role and that
Speaker 1: you know, he's the back who can make the first
Speaker 1: guy miss better than anyone else. Perhaps, yes, PAULI you know,
Speaker 1: once again, remember when they drafted you know, Benjamin, I
Speaker 1: did compare him to Chase Edmonds. I did. I thought
Speaker 1: these guys were going to get along really, really well
Speaker 1: because I heard that Eno was very cerebral. Well guess what,
Speaker 1: those guys did get along very very well. And having
Speaker 1: Chase on the field, Chase was like Paul, it was
Speaker 1: like having a coach on the field. And I think
Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin is that kind of brain, and he's that
Speaker 1: kind of grinder He's that kind of guy that's going
Speaker 1: to finish practice and going and watch tape himself. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go home, as a matter of fact, and watch tape.
Speaker 1: He's that kind of guy. And that's exactly who Chase was.
Speaker 1: You know me, Wolf, I love a good conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: And mayor may not have wondered out loud on air
Speaker 1: with you earlier this week that all this praise Reno
Speaker 1: Benjamin is that because they're setting up a trade because
Speaker 1: they're only going to keep four running backs and special
Speaker 1: teams isn't exactly his special tea. And so you know,
Speaker 1: but I asked around a little bit and the answer
Speaker 1: would be a resounding no. Calvin that he really has
Speaker 1: popped and shined in these offseason workouts and on the
Speaker 1: field when the Cardinals have been out there. So it
Speaker 1: sounds like it's legit. Justin Pugh you just heard with
Speaker 1: Dave Pash brought him up on his own. So, okay,
Speaker 1: the running back room, we get that. Now, what about cornerback?
Speaker 1: Because the Cardinals did sign former second round pick Josh Jackson,
Speaker 1: a four year guy. They signed him today. He was
Speaker 1: on a tryout basis during mini camp. Fact I tweeted
Speaker 1: out some video of him at Paul CALVC and I'm
Speaker 1: just wondering about the cornerback room now after the tragic
Speaker 1: death of Jeff Gladney, because they want to move Byron
Speaker 1: Murph be inside, do they not? That's where he excels.
Speaker 1: But are they going to have that ability if they
Speaker 1: don't have a capable outside corner to go with Marco Wilson, Paully,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the running back room again, Okay? Can
Speaker 1: we do that? Paul? I mean corner right now? It is.
Speaker 1: It is an area of concern, obviously, and you know
Speaker 1: who that is going to be, Polly, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're done. There's no way. Man. There
Speaker 1: was a John Abraham that is coming here. There's an
Speaker 1: Eric Winston signing. There's something that is coming here. Paul.
Speaker 1: I think. I think there'll be guys that get let
Speaker 1: go as well in training camp that I think the
Speaker 1: Cardinals will kick the tires on. I think this is
Speaker 1: going to be a constant search leading up to the
Speaker 1: regular season for that corner, that third guy. I agree,
Speaker 1: what about inside linebacker Zaban Collins. Isaiah Simmons obviously will
Speaker 1: begin in every chance in the month August to win
Speaker 1: those inside linebacker spots. But will they I mean, that
Speaker 1: is a bit question, is it not, Polly, Yes, it is,
Speaker 1: And I'm saying to myself, please, please, please please, I
Speaker 1: am please please, Avan Collins and Isaiah Simmons win those
Speaker 1: inside linebacker jobs right there again, Isaiah, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: you know, they move them all over the place, and
Speaker 1: that's great. He truly is an X factor. He truly
Speaker 1: is a rare talent. But sometime, at some point in time,
Speaker 1: you gotta find home, baby, You gotta have a position
Speaker 1: you can call home. This is where I belong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be creative with me. Yeah, they're gonna move
Speaker 1: me around in special situations. But I got to I've
Speaker 1: got to be a master of one, not a jack
Speaker 1: of all trades, master of none. I've got to be
Speaker 1: a master of one. And look the practice sessions the
Speaker 1: media was allowed to see during this offseason, the entirety
Speaker 1: of the offseason, every time we were out there. And
Speaker 1: this is according to Craig Griglou, who tracks these sort
Speaker 1: of things, Isaiah Simmons worked exclusively with the safeties. You
Speaker 1: never worked position group roles with the inside lineback so
Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know what that means exactly. They
Speaker 1: signed another inside linebacker today, a four year guy who
Speaker 1: played for the Chiefs most recently, and Ben Nieman. There's that.
Speaker 1: Then obviously there's the center position pending Roddy Hudson, and
Speaker 1: then the other position battle is opposite Marcus Golden edge
Speaker 1: rusher and I mean wolf n It's got to be
Speaker 1: divine Kennard's job to lose at this point and less
Speaker 1: a Dennis Gardeck is someone. But even Gardeck, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think you really view him as an every
Speaker 1: down player at this point, do you. You know? Listen,
Speaker 1: how I know he had seven sacks at ninety three reps,
Speaker 1: Paul right, Truly, that was pretty dog on good right there.
Speaker 1: He actually existed and flourished, I should say, advanced Joseph's
Speaker 1: high pressure complex pressure packages. He did very very well
Speaker 1: in that. But you know, Polly, I just the Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons thing once again, this might be a situation where
Speaker 1: they know they're going to play him more at that
Speaker 1: weekside inside linebacker position. But with all the advancement of
Speaker 1: this new age, of this new era offense, this spread
Speaker 1: offense being introduced to the NFL. Maybe they want him
Speaker 1: to get a lot of safety word, Polly, because they
Speaker 1: are going to move him around and that's the most
Speaker 1: difficult thing for him to learn. So maybe that's why
Speaker 1: they're doing it now. But once the pads go on
Speaker 1: and they start hitting and running the ball, they're going
Speaker 1: to put him inside. I said this earlier today and
Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground the podcast go Toacy Cardinals dot com orherever
Speaker 1: you year a podcast. You know what his position is
Speaker 1: week one against Kansas City. His position is the dude
Speaker 1: who covers Travis Kelsey. And I don't care if he's
Speaker 1: listened as an inside linebacker or he's listed as a safety.
Speaker 1: I don't care. He's the guy who's got to check
Speaker 1: the all pro tight end Travis Kelsey. That's his role.
Speaker 1: I just want him to stick his face hitto the
Speaker 1: fan and like it. That's what I want him to do.
Speaker 1: In the final moments, would you think of Cameron Thomas
Speaker 1: our interview, because I tell you there was a great
Speaker 1: moment we were going into the studio. Coming out of
Speaker 1: the studio after the Red Sea Report was Kyle Vannenbosch
Speaker 1: and I introduced camera. Thomas said Hey, Kyle Vannenbosch, and
Speaker 1: immediately camera Thomas lit up. He knew exactly Kyle Vanbosch
Speaker 1: was as a fellow great pass rusher, right, he knew
Speaker 1: all about the fact he played for the Lions. That
Speaker 1: was a great moment when Yeah, you know what, I
Speaker 1: love the fact he equated intensity with effort. Ah, I
Speaker 1: love that right there. I also love the fact that
Speaker 1: this dude is almost two hundred and seventy pounds and thick. Paul, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a thick base man. Yeah, he looks pretty
Speaker 1: good at least going through the garbage cans. He can
Speaker 1: move for a guy who said he hasn't put his
Speaker 1: hand in the ground once this entire offseason and that's
Speaker 1: all he did in college. And then he cited how
Speaker 1: ultra quick my j Sanders is. So all eyes are
Speaker 1: on those two third round rookies, no doubt when the
Speaker 1: Cardinals get to camp, that is their next stop because
Speaker 1: they are off, although the rookies will be here through
Speaker 1: the end of the month. Special thanks Jim amhndro, Cody
Speaker 1: Fincher and Cameron Thomas. Ron willflay on Paul kelbyc This
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