Speaker 1: Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.
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Speaker 2: the program this Friday. And but first I want to
Speaker 2: go to my interview. I did fly to Washington earlier
Speaker 2: this week. I sat with the Vice President J. D.
Speaker 2: Vance for a long and very frankly comprehensive interview. And
Speaker 2: here is some of that interview.
Speaker 3: It's the Vice President, great to see you, good morning,
Speaker 3: thank you for ast of all congratulations. All right, has
Speaker 3: it sunk in yet? Hillbilly Elogy?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 3: Now the Vice President of the United States of America.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. You know, it hasn't sunk in.
Speaker 5: And you know, I joke that I took two wrong
Speaker 5: turns and I ended up, you know, a hall way
Speaker 5: down from the Oval Office. And it's just an incredible thing.
Speaker 5: You know, the first time I'd have actually been to
Speaker 5: the Oval Office was with President Trump as his vice
Speaker 5: president last Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Had never been to the Oval Office.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 4: And you know he always talks.
Speaker 5: About you know, you have these executives Warren Heead's estate.
Speaker 4: The Oval office just has a particular power and.
Speaker 5: I certainly felt it, and it was just amazing to
Speaker 5: stand in that room. And I remember at the time
Speaker 5: thinking I wish that I had something profound to say,
Speaker 5: and I just stood in there saying, Wow, this is crazy.
Speaker 3: No, I had the same experience when I went in.
Speaker 3: President Bush was in office at the time, and I
Speaker 3: remember I thought it was surreal.
Speaker 4: I was like, is that really him?
Speaker 3: And it is a special place. And then of course
Speaker 3: Trump has this little red button which next to him,
Speaker 3: which is not the red button, which he screwed with me.
Speaker 5: About that actually, so he were just mid conversation, I
Speaker 5: think we were with Senator Thune and Speaker Johnson, and
Speaker 5: he has this sort of beautiful ornate wooden box on
Speaker 5: his desk with a red button and he presses it
Speaker 5: and he just kind of looks over at me and
Speaker 5: I'm like, sir, is that it's something bad?
Speaker 4: And He's like, no, I just ordered a diet coke.
Speaker 7: Literally, I read button.
Speaker 3: And it comes running in. Then I'll ask you would
Speaker 3: you like one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I've known President Trump for over thirty years. Sure, I've
Speaker 3: had a close relationship with him in all those years,
Speaker 3: and he and I when he was going to run
Speaker 3: thinking about running, we had arguments for hours deep into
Speaker 3: the night about I said, I'm not voting for you
Speaker 3: if you're not a conservative. You really are now getting
Speaker 3: to know him very well, Sure, what have you learned
Speaker 3: about him?
Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 6: One.
Speaker 5: I've learned that he has the most interesting decision making
Speaker 5: process of any person.
Speaker 4: I've ever met.
Speaker 5: And I think it's what makes him such an effective leader,
Speaker 5: is that when he actually is thinking about doing something,
Speaker 5: he doesn't just ask like you know, his closest advisor
Speaker 5: or some policy person. You know it's gonna affect a business,
Speaker 5: He'll call the business to CEO, so he'll go and
Speaker 5: try to talk to the workers. He tries to take
Speaker 5: inputs from everywhere, and I think it's one of the
Speaker 5: reasons why he's so in tune with where the American
Speaker 5: people actually are.
Speaker 4: But it's also I.
Speaker 5: Think one of the genius is of the way that
Speaker 5: he makes decisions is that he actually tries to talk
Speaker 5: to everybody. And that's something Honestly, I could write a
Speaker 5: book just about the way that he gathers information from
Speaker 5: all sources, and it's very unusual. I mean, Washington, most politicians,
Speaker 5: you know, they'll if it's a national security issue, they'll
Speaker 5: talk to their national security person and maybe you know,
Speaker 5: somebody else in their office. If it's a business issue,
Speaker 5: maybe they'll talk to a CEO. The President talks to everybody.
Speaker 5: And that's a very, very profound thing about the way
Speaker 5: that he actually operates in Washington.
Speaker 3: I would describe him as a force of nature, and
Speaker 3: there's nobody else like him. Yes, and I think in
Speaker 3: many ways he's misunderstood as well, because I know the
Speaker 3: personal side of him, and I know the business side
Speaker 3: of him. And as we've seen hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 3: executive actions, and you've been here very a little over
Speaker 3: a week now, yeah, pretty well, speed a light, it's
Speaker 3: speed of light.
Speaker 5: You know, we've i think, accomplished honestly, more in eight
Speaker 5: days than the entire Biden administration accomplished in four years.
Speaker 5: And of course the things that we're accomplishing are actually
Speaker 5: good things, and the things they were accomplishing or mostly
Speaker 5: bad things.
Speaker 4: But the president has incredible energy.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is something you hear other people say
Speaker 5: about him, and it's hard to really appreciate it until
Speaker 5: you're up close and personal. I don't know how much
Speaker 5: he sleeps, or if he ever really sleeps.
Speaker 4: I mean, you'll get phone calls from him.
Speaker 3: I can answer that he doesn't sleep a lot.
Speaker 4: You'll get phone calls at one in the morning, and.
Speaker 5: He'll just you know, he'll talk about policy, and he'll
Speaker 5: talk about your family, and he just there's something incredibly
Speaker 5: energetic about him.
Speaker 4: But you sort of need that. Actually, the federal government.
Speaker 5: Has become so sprawling and the bureaucracy is so unresponsive
Speaker 5: to what the president actually wants to do that you
Speaker 5: kind of need somebody in there who's constantly on.
Speaker 4: It's all gas, no breaks.
Speaker 5: That's certainly what we've seen the last you know, eight days.
Speaker 5: I think it's what we'll see for the next four years.
Speaker 3: You know, when when you look at, for example, the
Speaker 3: two biggest issues in this campaign, immigration and the economy. Sure,
Speaker 3: and because that's impacting the people in Ohio of course,
Speaker 3: right yeah, packed in their life hard and a lot
Speaker 3: of mats. I've been really hurt. It was a study
Speaker 3: that came out like fifty six percent of Americans can't
Speaker 3: withstand a thousand dollars emergency. Sure, you know it would
Speaker 3: be devastating for them. That scares me. I've been there,
Speaker 3: I've lived there. I know you've been there. Of course,
Speaker 3: not fun, not where you want to.
Speaker 4: Be, not fun.
Speaker 6: Law.
Speaker 3: And when I think of, you know, the issue of
Speaker 3: immigration in particular, I'm looking at we have known terrorists
Speaker 3: in this country. We have known cartel members, known gang members,
Speaker 3: we have known murderers, rapists, And I'm watching the reaction
Speaker 3: of the left and the left wing media and the Democrats,
Speaker 3: and you know, we're back to Nazi fascists, Hitler, Stall
Speaker 3: and Mussolini. And I'm like, what part of these other
Speaker 3: people you're missing?
Speaker 4: No, it's it's totally crazy, Sean.
Speaker 5: And if you look, you know, there was the guy
Speaker 5: who went viral if you days ago that we deported
Speaker 5: seventeen violent criminal convictions and was actually saying the guy
Speaker 5: from Ady, he was saying, I hate Trump, I love
Speaker 5: Biden because Biden wanted me to stay in this country.
Speaker 4: Is there a better endorsement of Donald J.
Speaker 5: Trump that a violent criminal who shouldn't be in this
Speaker 5: country doesn't like him? Because Donald Trump is actually enforcing
Speaker 5: the immigration laws of this country.
Speaker 4: And it's everywhere Sean.
Speaker 5: It affects everybody from all walks of life. It's the
Speaker 5: drug epidemic, it's the crime, it's the fact that if
Speaker 5: you live along the southern border, you're affected by this
Speaker 5: cartel activity.
Speaker 4: We've seen, Sean.
Speaker 5: Just in the last couple of days, multiple cartel members
Speaker 5: have fired at our own border patrol, And you ask yourself,
Speaker 5: why wasn't that happening a couple of years ago, Because
Speaker 5: they weren't empowered to do their job. The border has
Speaker 5: become so lawless that we're actually engaging in military style
Speaker 5: engagements just to regain control of our southern border. And
Speaker 5: thank god we're actually doing it this time, because if
Speaker 5: we had another four years of Biden and the Democrats
Speaker 5: wide open southern border, it would permanently and I think,
Speaker 5: irreparably transform this country. So, yeah, we're doing immigration enforcement
Speaker 5: in a big way. We're also doing things to lower
Speaker 5: the cost of energy, because of course, if we can
Speaker 5: lower the cost of energy, we're going to make food
Speaker 5: and housing, groceries, everything else more affordable for American citizens.
Speaker 5: And that really is you're exactly right, That is that
Speaker 5: the two prongs of the Trump agenda. We want to
Speaker 5: create more prosperity, and we want to create more security
Speaker 5: and we're doing a lot We're going to do a
Speaker 5: lot more.
Speaker 3: I want to ask about the economy in a second.
Speaker 3: But we saw Tom Holman. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 3: there's anyone talk about a force of nature. I've tried
Speaker 3: to make them smile. I've had no luck. If you
Speaker 3: pull that off, that would be a miracle. But I've
Speaker 3: known him a long time. I have a great admiration for.
Speaker 4: Him, me too.
Speaker 3: And almost ten thousand deportations and some of the toughest criminals.
Speaker 3: Christinome out on that ice rate in New York yesterday.
Speaker 3: She was on TV with us last night. Amazing ten
Speaker 3: thousand in a week. The president looked for what eighteen
Speaker 3: hundred a day, right, And you know that's a pretty
Speaker 3: ambitious goal.
Speaker 5: It's ambitious, but you need a leader who sets ambitious
Speaker 5: goals and actually holds people to meeting those goals.
Speaker 4: If you think we've got twenty plus.
Speaker 5: Million illegal aliens in this country, we have got to
Speaker 5: get these people out of our country and regain control
Speaker 5: of our own border. And it's not just the people
Speaker 5: that were deporting. If you look at the number of
Speaker 5: illegal entries on January the nineteenth, the last day of
Speaker 5: the Democrats administration, I believe the number was north of
Speaker 5: thirteen hundred illegal entries. Five days later, we had already
Speaker 5: cut that by more than sixty percent, and I guarantee
Speaker 5: we're going to cut it even further. It policy matters,
Speaker 5: Elections have consequences, and President Trump ran explicitly on regaining
Speaker 5: control of the border and redelivering American prosperity. That's exactly
Speaker 5: what we're doing. And it is funny sean to hear
Speaker 5: the media and the Democrats how about this and say, well,
Speaker 5: you know this is bad, this is terrible. You know,
Speaker 5: this is like you said, fast just nazi blah blah
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. The President promised the American people he
Speaker 5: was going to do this.
Speaker 4: They gave him a mandate, so now he's doing it.
Speaker 5: That's how democratic politics in this country works, and thank
Speaker 5: god for that.
Speaker 3: If I was in your position or President Trump's position,
Speaker 3: and I never will be, let's be clear, but if
Speaker 3: I was, I think what would keep me up at
Speaker 3: night is the fact that we have known terrorists in
Speaker 3: the country, and we have murderers in the country, and
Speaker 3: rapists and violent criminals, cartels, and gang members that I said,
Speaker 3: I'm married about an attack on the homeland. Mister Vice President,
Speaker 3: how worried are you?
Speaker 5: Well, look, I am worried, Sean, because we were given
Speaker 5: a country with hundreds, maybe thousands, maybe more of known
Speaker 5: terrorists that are in the United States of America thanks
Speaker 5: to the open borders of the last administration. So it's
Speaker 5: our job to worry about it so that hopefully we
Speaker 5: can prevent that attack. So it's something that does keep
Speaker 5: us up at night. It's something that the government is
Speaker 5: working on very aggressively. We've got great intelligence services, we've
Speaker 5: got great border enforcement. We're trying to identify the bad
Speaker 5: guys and get them out of our country. Because look,
Speaker 5: what you don't want to have happened, Sean, is let's
Speaker 5: say we take a foreign policy action that some foreign
Speaker 5: terrorist organization doesn't like. Well, now these guys they're not
Speaker 5: in Syria or some foreign country. They're in our backyards,
Speaker 5: they're in our cities. We have to get them out
Speaker 5: to make the homeland safer, but also to empower the
Speaker 5: president to do the things that he needs to do
Speaker 5: when it comes to national security. So it does worry me,
Speaker 5: but we also have a government that's actually tackling this issue.
Speaker 5: It's getting better every single day.
Speaker 3: How do we find them? I mean, you have known terrorists,
Speaker 3: but you don't know where they are. Non cartel members,
Speaker 3: but you don't know where they are.
Speaker 5: Well, it's crazy, Sean. Sometimes you're right, we don't know
Speaker 5: where they are. Sometimes we actually do. And that's one
Speaker 5: of the craziest things of the last week. Just for me,
Speaker 5: you ask what is shocking to me, It's that many
Speaker 5: of these violent criminals, we knew their addresses, we knew
Speaker 5: their names. We just needed to send somebody, got to
Speaker 5: go to their house and get them the hell out
Speaker 5: of there. That really should shock the American people.
Speaker 3: We've known where they are exactly exactly, and we've known
Speaker 3: they've had terroritized.
Speaker 5: We've known at least that they had violent criminal backgrounds,
Speaker 5: and we haven't done anything until about eight days ago
Speaker 5: when Donald Trump became the president of the United States. Again,
Speaker 5: it really should shock the conscience of the American people.
Speaker 5: One of the things you've heard on the campaign trail,
Speaker 5: one of the criticisms of me and of the president
Speaker 5: was well, yes, we have twenty million illegal aliens. We
Speaker 5: have close to a million violent criminal, illegal aliens, and
Speaker 5: we don't know where they are. It turns out we
Speaker 5: actually do know where a lot of them are. We
Speaker 5: just haven't had immigration enforcement and that's what's changed so
Speaker 5: rad That.
Speaker 3: Actually gives me hope that we can protect the homeland
Speaker 3: because I would imagine if you're a terrorist and you're
Speaker 3: in our country, you're not here to pursue a better
Speaker 3: life for you and your children. You're here to plot, plan,
Speaker 3: scheme the next attack on our homeland. And I lived
Speaker 3: through nine to eleven. I don't want to live through
Speaker 3: that again. I don't want to lose, of course, nine
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy seven Americans again. Yeah, Caroline Levett, I
Speaker 3: watched her yesterday. I thought you did a great job.
Speaker 3: I agree, and Rachel I thought a star was born.
Speaker 3: And it's a very hostile room as well. You had
Speaker 3: your moment with Margaret Brennan, although I don't think she
Speaker 3: had a very good day over the weekend my humble opinion,
Speaker 3: but I watched her with the media and she was
Speaker 3: very forceful. And then you turn over to NBC and
Speaker 3: everyone from Liberal Joe to Joy Read to Nicole Wallace
Speaker 3: and Rachel Maddow and you know, it's not. They're back
Speaker 3: to their closing argument in the campaign. Sure, Nazi, fascist, racist, Hitler,
Speaker 3: Stall and Mussolini. And I'm like, wow, it seems like
Speaker 3: they haven't learned a thing. But here's my question, should
Speaker 3: we should If they're going to go there and they're
Speaker 3: going to make such insane allegations when you're trying to
Speaker 3: get rid of criminals that have been murdering, raping, and
Speaker 3: responsible for other crimes against violent crimes against Americans, why
Speaker 3: are they even in a White House press brief here room.
Speaker 4: Why you know what was so interesting?
Speaker 5: Just to give some more kudos to Carolyn is she
Speaker 5: didn't have a massive binder and she did this incredible
Speaker 5: briefing with all of the hostile media, and then somebody
Speaker 5: asked her, where was your binder? And she said, my
Speaker 5: binder is in my head. And I think there's something
Speaker 5: very interesting about Donald Trump's approach to governances. He just
Speaker 5: wants to hire smart, competent people to do the people's business.
Speaker 5: He's not worried about what you look like, whether you're
Speaker 5: gay or straight, whether you're black or white. He's just saying,
Speaker 5: if you're smart and you're loyal to the American people,
Speaker 5: you can have a place in my administration. I think
Speaker 5: Carolyn really knocked it out of the park.
Speaker 4: But it does raise interesting question. I actually think that.
Speaker 5: We are looking very seriously about which reporters show up,
Speaker 5: because if you're a reporter, even if you're biased towards
Speaker 5: the left, absolutely we.
Speaker 4: Want to answer your questions.
Speaker 5: If you're a propagandis for the Democratic Party, then we're
Speaker 5: going to treat you like a propaganda's for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 5: And one of the things that I think we've already
Speaker 5: done again only eight days into this thing, is you
Speaker 5: know who. It's not just who's not there, it's also
Speaker 5: who is present. And Carolyn had a lot of new
Speaker 5: media folks, a lot of young people who represent I
Speaker 5: think the vanguard of news media in this country.
Speaker 4: She gave Matt.
Speaker 5: Boyle from Breitbart and a question yesterday. These are actually
Speaker 5: some of the people who are driving news in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five in America, and I think, frankly, the MSNBC's
Speaker 5: the CNNs of the world. They should take the hint.
Speaker 5: Your viewership is way down, your ratings are abysmal. Why
Speaker 5: is it that especially young people are tuning into new media?
Speaker 4: Maybe it's because instead.
Speaker 5: Of engaging in propaganda, the new media is asking real questions.
Speaker 5: I mean, Joe Rogan, one of the biggest voices in
Speaker 5: American media now, he was a Bernie brew eight years ago.
Speaker 5: This is not like some crazy right wing guy. This
Speaker 5: is just a person who's asking questions. And unfortunately most
Speaker 5: of the old old media they're just not interested in that.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll come back. More of my interview with
Speaker 2: JDV coming up eight hundred nine four one.
Speaker 7: Shawn.
Speaker 2: We'll get to some of your calls coming up, final
Speaker 2: half hour of the program. All right, we're going to
Speaker 2: get to your calls in just a minute. Eight hundred
Speaker 2: nine four one. Shawn is on number. But first a
Speaker 2: few more minutes of my interview with the Vice President
Speaker 2: from earlier this week, JD evans As.
Speaker 3: I listened to them, and I watched Selena gome As
Speaker 3: that viral video.
Speaker 4: Her Lord, you know, I think interesting.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: I've talked to the family, as did President Trump. I
Speaker 3: know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did not. I
Speaker 3: talked to Lake and Riley's family.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I talked to Rachel Marn's family, mother of five. I
Speaker 3: talked to Joscelyn Nungary's mother and grandfather, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: where were the tears when a little thirteen year old
Speaker 3: girl absolutely was brutalized and murdered and all these other
Speaker 3: Americans murdered and raped and victims of violent crime, where.
Speaker 4: Were the tears?
Speaker 5: Then it's a great point, Shawn, And there's something very
Speaker 5: deranged in the mind of the far left in this country,
Speaker 5: where I really do think that they feel more of
Speaker 5: a sense of compassion for illegal aliens who have no
Speaker 5: right to be in this country then they do their
Speaker 5: fellow citizens.
Speaker 4: And that really has to change.
Speaker 5: And you know, when when Selena Gomez had her viral moment,
Speaker 5: and of course there were a lot of other celebrities
Speaker 5: who weighed in, I had people sending me photos of
Speaker 5: little kids, sometimes kids the same age as my little children.
Speaker 5: We've got, of course, a seven year old, a four
Speaker 5: year old, three year old.
Speaker 3: Scene by the way, thank you, someone's playing with your hair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get to that.
Speaker 5: But you know, kids similar age to my children who
Speaker 5: were murdered by criminal aliens in the United States of America.
Speaker 5: And as an American leader, but also just as an
Speaker 5: American citizen, your compassion belongs first to your fellow citizens.
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean you hate people from outside of your
Speaker 5: own borders. But there's this old school, and I think
Speaker 5: it's a very Christian concept by the way, that you
Speaker 5: love your family, and then you love your neighbor, and
Speaker 5: then you love your community, and then you love your
Speaker 5: fellow citizens in your own country, and then after that
Speaker 5: you can focus and prioritize the rest of the world.
Speaker 5: A lot of the far left has completely inverted that.
Speaker 5: They seem to hate the citizens of their own country
Speaker 5: and care more about people outside.
Speaker 4: Their own borders. That is no way to run a society.
Speaker 5: And I think the profound difference that Donald Trump brings
Speaker 5: to the leadership of this country is that the simple
Speaker 5: concept America first. It doesn't mean you hate anybody else.
Speaker 5: It means that you have leadership. And President Trump has
Speaker 5: been very clear about this that puts the interests of
Speaker 5: American citizens first. And in the same way that the
Speaker 5: British Prime Minister should care about Brits and the French
Speaker 5: should care about the French. We have an American president
Speaker 5: who cares primarily about Americans and that's a very welcome change.
Speaker 3: What is President Shade doing?
Speaker 5: What is with Latimeric people looking after the Chinese. Putin
Speaker 5: is looking after the Russians that they're entitled to do that.
Speaker 5: Thank God, we now have an American president who's looking
Speaker 5: after the citizens of his own country.
Speaker 3: I hate to ask this question, I really do. And
Speaker 3: because of my long standing friendship with the president. Sure,
Speaker 3: we have had two would be assassins. I read these reports,
Speaker 3: you would know a lot more about the details than
Speaker 3: I would, of course, about Iranian assassination squads in the country. Yep,
Speaker 3: you are, now, as they say, one heart beat away
Speaker 3: from the presidency. Do you think about that? I mean,
Speaker 3: God forbid that moment ever comes that. I mean, God forbid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I try not to think about it, Sean.
Speaker 5: I mean my attitude is I'm going to do as
Speaker 5: good of a job as I can for the President
Speaker 5: of the United States. Part of that, of course, is
Speaker 5: learning from him and learning about this incredible group of
Speaker 5: people that we have in the White House. And yeah,
Speaker 5: part of the job is, God forbid, if something terrible happens,
Speaker 5: I have to step into that role. But I think
Speaker 5: President Trump is in incredible health. I think that we've
Speaker 5: got a great situation when it comes to security around
Speaker 5: the president, and I really do think that he's going
Speaker 5: to serve four years do a great job, and I'm
Speaker 5: going to do as good of a job I can
Speaker 5: for the American people.
Speaker 3: It's very low energy, like Joe North Carolina, Vegas.
Speaker 5: And California to day well, and of course on the
Speaker 5: phone the whole time, taken call, you know, making phone
Speaker 5: calls here.
Speaker 4: The other thing about his.
Speaker 5: Energy level is he's extremely accessible, right, And I know
Speaker 5: it's it's kind of shocking to the White House Press Corps,
Speaker 5: to everybody in Washington that the president actually is engaged
Speaker 5: in the people's government. That's, of course exactly what you want.
Speaker 5: But it is a very radical departure from the last
Speaker 5: four year.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 2: That was Vice President J. D. Vansie went up to
Speaker 2: Washington earlier this week. I thought he was phenomenal, unbelievably.
Speaker 2: He is smart, he's intelligent, he is completely maga, and
Speaker 2: he is resolved. All right, let's get to our busy phones. Karen,
Speaker 2: is it my free state of Florida? Hey Karen, how
Speaker 2: are you glad you called?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 7: Thanks for checking in.
Speaker 8: Happy Friday, Thank you son, all the same to you.
Speaker 8: Welcome to Florida, Hey Son, I'm just concerned about one thing,
Speaker 8: and the two questions do you consider DEI and affirmative
Speaker 8: action one and the same. And I'll let you answer that.
Speaker 8: But the reason I asked that quest question if it
Speaker 8: seems like they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Speaker 8: I mean, if you look at the definitions and the
Speaker 8: purpose for affirmative action, well documented issues, and it was
Speaker 8: all about hiring or training or educating, especially blacks who
Speaker 8: make the ground for a little more Even now I'm
Speaker 8: hearing too many conservatives and Republicans, etc. Say you know DEI,
Speaker 8: and they're incorporating transgender, gay, white, black, and then they're
Speaker 8: throwing in the black and the race and everything. They're
Speaker 8: throwing everything in that window and saying we have to
Speaker 8: get rid of it. So that question is do we
Speaker 8: consider it one and the same. And then the other
Speaker 8: question is any of the DEI laws, did they ever
Speaker 8: tell any of those companies hire them or put them
Speaker 8: in the position, but don't train them. I don't think so.
Speaker 8: So there has to be some blame and onnus on
Speaker 8: the companies as well. If you bring them in because
Speaker 8: you are trying to make the ground a little more leveled,
Speaker 8: you still need to train those people.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of companies now are getting rid of
Speaker 2: DEI programs that they've adopted. They've they've been frankly pressured
Speaker 2: to adopt by the Left. Now, of course there's crossover.
Speaker 2: DEI just goes and expands out so far. You know,
Speaker 2: for example, we were discussing the tragedy of this collision
Speaker 2: that took place, this mid air collision in Washington, d C.
Speaker 7: And now that we find out.
Speaker 2: That they were suffering from quality control issues and staffing shortages.
Speaker 2: But you know, more importantly, you know, when you get
Speaker 2: to the DEI aspect that was put in place since
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, where they prioritized politics and DEI over you
Speaker 2: know what was smart and safe for the American people.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's absolutely it's it's madness. I mean, to
Speaker 2: hire workers with severe intellectual disabilities that the fa to
Speaker 2: hire people with psychiatric problems at the FAA, that's too
Speaker 2: important a job. And let me be very clear, I'm
Speaker 2: against discrimination, I really am. And I want to point
Speaker 2: out one another thing. Without these programs being they weren't
Speaker 2: really highlighted in Trump's first terms. WOKE was somewhat new
Speaker 2: to the our vernacular, but without it. Donald Trump set
Speaker 2: record low after record low unemployment levels for African Americans,
Speaker 2: Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, and African
Speaker 2: American youth unemployment. His economic policies did that. And so
Speaker 2: in that sense, as long as every American, which I
Speaker 2: believe is created by God, and every human is created
Speaker 2: by God and has talent from God, is given a
Speaker 2: fair shot and then not discriminated against, which I find repulsive,
Speaker 2: then I think you just hired. I'm against discrimination, but
Speaker 2: I am for meritocracy. But I'm also for moving schools,
Speaker 2: especially in areas that have that. We have failed our
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Speaker 2: children with God given talent an opportunity to have, you know,
Speaker 2: the rungs in the ladder to success, and a lot
Speaker 2: of those kids come from areas that are heavily minority
Speaker 2: areas in the country. We're failing these children, We're failing
Speaker 2: God's children, and we got to fix that. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: hope that answers your question.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Good call Matt in Memphis Tennessee. Hey, Matt, how are
Speaker 2: you happy Friday? Glad you called?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm good. What's going on?
Speaker 6: Oh you're a real hot person. Get hold I can
Speaker 6: tell you that. Hey, thanks for taking my call. I
Speaker 6: really do appreciate it.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 6: My time is no more. Time is limited. So there's
Speaker 6: there's just two points on this that I kind of
Speaker 6: want to make or whatever. First, well, it's a Swiss
Speaker 6: cheese factor that we that we all talk about, and
Speaker 6: he talked to any air traffic controller knows. And second
Speaker 6: of all is the questions that I would be answering.
Speaker 6: But the Swiss cheese factor. I watched the ratio replay
Speaker 6: and listened to the audio of it, and the phraseology
Speaker 6: was not correct on either part, whether it was a
Speaker 6: pilot or the air traffic controller. So the air traffic
Speaker 6: controller should have issued traffic twelve o'clock one mile you
Speaker 6: have the RJA inside. He didn't do that. Now I
Speaker 6: can understand that is because he was very busy. And
Speaker 6: the pilot again came back and he said, yeah, have
Speaker 6: I have the traffic insite?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: How you said I have the traffic at like one
Speaker 6: two o'clock. The control would have said no, let's not
Speaker 6: the traffic. So I get it. Anybody out there, any
Speaker 6: air traffic controller, if they said they have not short
Speaker 6: cuts of something or so they haven't got the Begieva
Speaker 6: scare out of them, then they're either new of their line.
Speaker 6: So that's that's one. That's the first thing that I
Speaker 6: initially heard. Also, there's las letters of agreement that the
Speaker 6: airplanes are supposed to be at a certain outsuit and
Speaker 6: he was above that. Now why that is, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I have no idea not to mention in the air
Speaker 6: traffic control ended up changing the run made the very
Speaker 6: last second. Why because of compression Because somebody's on the
Speaker 6: running don't know. So that was another hole in the
Speaker 6: Swiss cheets. So and the controller isn't issuing traffic, not once,
Speaker 6: but twice to the aircraft and the first time didn't answer.
Speaker 6: And my assessment is now again I am not a
Speaker 6: representative of IFA. I'm just giving you control my aspect
Speaker 6: of it. But the pilots had the head down in
Speaker 6: the cockpit, so the crew chief and the copilot were
Speaker 6: probably looking where they were flying, and the pilot who
Speaker 6: had the DAGs on maybe possibly domo. But it scares
Speaker 6: their line of vision, so they said they called the
Speaker 6: traffic inside, which was probably the wrong aircraft, I'm assuming,
Speaker 6: and the other people in the aircraft didn't even think
Speaker 6: anything about it before it was too late. So and
Speaker 6: as far as the adsp and and and the tea
Speaker 6: cask and everything else, from my understanding, when the the
Speaker 6: black Hawk helicopter, they don't have those two equipments on
Speaker 6: there because they don't want the enemy to know where
Speaker 6: they're at. And when aircraft come down and they're sending
Speaker 6: they end up either turning it down or trying it
Speaker 6: off because there's so many aircraft coming into that area.
Speaker 6: And not to mention, they pick up ground traffic, you know,
Speaker 6: as as far as you know, trains or semis or
Speaker 6: something like that, so they don't want to hear that
Speaker 6: because they're focusing on coming in at Atlantic. Now, the
Speaker 6: questions that I would ask.
Speaker 2: Initially, you have to be a little quicker here because
Speaker 2: you're almost running out of time, But go ahead make
Speaker 2: your final thought because I think you're bringing up a
Speaker 2: lot of good points.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But the question that I would initially ask was
Speaker 6: why weren't the position split? How long was the person
Speaker 6: on position? How long were they on duty, how many
Speaker 6: controllers were on duty, was a supervisor up there? How
Speaker 6: many people were on break with venue over time?
Speaker 2: We know one person left, we know they were short staff.
Speaker 2: We know one person was doing two people's jobs. We
Speaker 2: know they'd been numerous near missus at that airport. You know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot that we've learned. We know that the
Speaker 2: FA put out stern warnings now going back a number
Speaker 2: of years, and that pothole pee Buddha judge did nothing.
Speaker 2: It doesn't bring comfort to the families, but we already
Speaker 2: have the building blocks to take the steps necessary to
Speaker 2: prevent this from happening. And all of the points that
Speaker 2: you're making maybe a little technical for some in the audience.
Speaker 2: I'm a little more familiar with aviation and I know
Speaker 2: exactly what you're talking about. You're raising very critical, important
Speaker 2: questions that I'm sure the NTSP is going to get
Speaker 2: to by the time all of the sudden done. But
Speaker 2: I got to talk to you about it all day,
Speaker 2: and we'll we'll have more on Hannity tonight. I wish
Speaker 2: I had more time, but I will say this, as
Speaker 2: an air traffic controller, your job is important. You need
Speaker 2: you need to have you know incredible abilities to multitask
Speaker 2: that make fast decisions, and an ability you know to
Speaker 2: to really really dial in and focus and know your job.
Speaker 7: It is a hard, hard job.
Speaker 2: And all the points that you're making are dead on accurate,
Speaker 2: and I thank you for keeping the air safe. For
Speaker 2: the most part, our errors are safe. But we have
Speaker 2: staffing problems, and now we have other problems that we're
Speaker 2: discovering as well. Anyway, I appreciate what you do with
Speaker 2: all air traffic controllers do, and we got we got
Speaker 2: to get some people trained fast. By the way, if
Speaker 2: you're looking for a job, maybe you want to think
Speaker 2: about being an air traffic controller.
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Speaker 2: And that's gonna wrap things up for today, and we'll
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