1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: You're now tuned into the real. 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the gangst The Chronicles podcast, the production of 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: download the Iheard app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: for my Apple users, hit the purple mic on your 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: front screen, subscribed to Against the Chronicles and leave a 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: five star rating and comment. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: Like when I first started rapping, like like sometimes I 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: look at y'all generation like y'all version Against the Rap, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: y'all were more musically inclined. I would imagine probably at 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: Compton how they had music classes. You know what I mean? 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Hey, you went to the you want to you want 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: to come try? 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 4: I went to the Mingus Okay, So even. 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: Even the dirty I would imagine they had like music 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: programs like all of the generations to me, like the 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: first generation of West Coast MC's, they were more musically inclined. 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: We were so like they probably was like why aid 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: and it was gang banging and Dreaden was hanging out 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: and they was doing their thing. They still have more 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: of an insight to music, like y'all got the last 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: bits of music courses, like you know when you listen 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: to a music. They had better music than us. 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: What's aving? 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: It's your boy big stealing tonight. Me and the homie 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: mc up home the class to be known about the 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: music bits, and we also asked what the world would 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: do not the trumpets back in office. 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: Let's go. My father. 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 5: Got me into you know, instruments and shit. You know, 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 5: I was in the little the drum line shit with 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 5: the permemery. They had the parades and they had the 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: drummers and shit. I did that like a couple of years. 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: And then. 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 5: My father put me in the class and bought me 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 5: a motherfucking trumpet, So I was I was in class 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 5: trying to learn how to play trumpet and all that shit. 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: He had me doing that shit, you know. So that's 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: what music was. Always early shit with me, and then 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 5: usually with your parents or grandparents from my generation, somebody 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: was you know on some music shit, singing in the 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: choir at church or some shit like that. Your cousin 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: might have played the drums or the oregon or some 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: shit like that. So that's where that shit came from. 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: Everybody was sure into some kind of instrumentation because they did. 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: Did y'all still have the music programs over the eight 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: that they had and took them out hit when you 48 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: was going to school. 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they still had music programs around that time, 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 5: you know, the early eighties, the mid seventies, early eighties, 51 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 5: and shit, you know, shit start falling when the nineties came. 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: So by the time when I got in high school, 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 3: they didn't have nothing program So when I go back 54 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 3: and I listened to NYCNW or if I listen to 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: NWA even talking to yelling them with like he was 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: talking about music, how they used to play the drums, 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: and even forty forty got a scholarship, you feel me 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: to Grambling for music. So like that's why to me, 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: that generation, like right, that that first tier of West 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Coast simc's even to the degree of the second tier, 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: right that anything that came from eighty which would be 62 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 3: kind of on a on a Mansu scale eighty six 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: to ninety or ninety to ninety six, them. 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Dudes was different. 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: Even their music sound different versus when we came in 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: the game, Right, we didn't know nothing about music. Now, 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't know My mom is a huge 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: music fan, You feel me, I didn't know nothing about music. 69 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: I could hear songs, I knew songs, but I didn't 70 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: know music, and you could hear the difference when you 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: listen to let's say a NWA anything early death Row 72 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: conscious most wanted you feel me, any of the stuff 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: Iceland was doing, it just was more. 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: You could tell they knew more about music. 75 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I think it was. I think 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: if anything we learned, we for sure learned theory. And 77 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: it was the basic stuff, like I remember, because all 78 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: I ever took was piano, and I remember, man, they 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: taught us chopsticks and a whole bunch of other stuff 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: and moonlight sonata and all that, you know, different type 81 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: of stuff. So it kind of took you from there 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: to where you had note recognition. And I would say 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: that help when you kind of got a hip hop 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: I kind of started off leiegue or not were on 85 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: the DJ side? Is my mom had bought me some turntables. Yeah, 86 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: but even you feel me like so the point of 87 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: this book and like. 88 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: It's one thing to turn your natural ability into skill 89 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: or technique, Like you know, it's like a hooper, like right, 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 3: you could hoop right if you could jump out the gym, 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You fast, you could cross 92 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: everything over and in high school. 93 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: That's gonna get you all the buckets. 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 3: In college, that's gonna get you some buckets when you 95 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 3: get to that pro level. 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: It's all about your skill set. 97 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: It ain't about because you ain't the fastest person out 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: there no more. You ain't the strongest person out there 99 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: no more. You don't jump the highest out there no more. 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: Now it's gonna be you know what you do one 101 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: thousand times? What was the drill you was running that 102 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: you was throwing up? 103 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 104 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: What you do it the most. And so turning my 105 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: innate ability as a storyteller into you know what I mean, 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: technique into a skill where I could always use it 107 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: and pull it out like Kareem's hook shot for me, 108 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: I ain't trying to I'm getting older, Like I'm I'm 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: at of age. I remember when I first came in 110 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: and the MC's even had made it to my age. 111 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: When I first came in the game, they weren't even 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: my age. Now, so you know what I'm saying, It's like, 113 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: now you really better have some skills because you ain't Finna. 114 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: It's a new flow. Some young nigga got a new flow. 115 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: His flow, the brand newst thing like Little boss Man. 116 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: His flow crazy. They losing it, that's like dribbling its naturally. 117 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: Feel me. 118 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: He got the new slang you feel me, he got 119 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: the you know. 120 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this. 121 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: So when you say when you first came in the game, 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: you looking back now when you say your first stuff 123 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: you did was trash, yeah. 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: I mean okay no. So White Lightning no, Only that's 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: because DJ g l E Right, Gary Guido, who was 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: working with Rhythm D. 127 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: Produced it, though, so like was produced. 128 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: By somebody time putting ten twelve, fifteen years into the game, 129 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: just like you. 130 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: He was DJAILED when he was younger. 131 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: Feel me like. He from that that era of dudes, 132 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: born in sixty sixty seventy two, so he here you 133 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: know hip hop, he knew more and then he had success. 134 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: He had mixed the Diddy record, you know, the paper 135 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 3: Boys song. He worked on songs from Rhythm D. So 136 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: him producing White Lighting White Lightning was dope. But everything 137 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: I did he moved to Atlanta and I got I 138 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: was on my own. 139 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: All that shit is whack. 140 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 6: You said, all of us, all of them. 141 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: So whatever I did on my own is whack like 142 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: until I got with Tump, until I got with Manny 143 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: Fresh the Stones. You remember the original Beach Cruise and 144 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: the stuff I did with Mike City. You know, when 145 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: I was being produced, Certified obviously was top sixty on 146 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: the charts, right, Certified was top sixty on the charts. 147 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: You know, But when I start having to produce my 148 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: own song, like with Hater, shout out to the to 149 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: MeV and my brothers from the Renne Gaze, but they 150 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: were brand new, like called hadn't developed them as producers. 151 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: So you feel me like it wasn't Haters ain't as 152 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: tight as it could have been because I don't understand records, 153 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: feel me, but like the stuff when I was produced, 154 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: it was dope. But when I produced my own stuff, 155 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: right when I started making my own music and I 156 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: just start rapping the beats and finding my own beats 157 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: and coming up. 158 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: With my hooks, that ship whack. 159 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: Get whack, you know, because now I hear it, I'm like, like. 160 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: Your old ship and be like, man, that ship was trashed. 161 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 5: I I'm I'm I'm a I'm a critic of my ship. 162 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 5: And usually what what I would do is I would 163 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 5: just play ship for niggas as it as it went along. 164 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 5: And uh, I would pull a lot of ship that 165 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 5: I would do because there was always somebody getting ready 166 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 5: to come out with somebody who had already dropped. And 167 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: you know, in our generation, you had to be on 168 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 5: point with your lyricism if you was goinna put out 169 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: some shit. So I would play shit for niggas in 170 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 5: the studio, and if niggas would be like, yeah, that 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 5: that sound cool, I would change it up right there 172 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 5: because sounding cool is just what the general niggas right here. 173 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 5: Niggas might be just nuts swinging because they hanging in 174 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: the studio with you and shit like that. So it 175 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 5: was a lot of shit that I would pull or 176 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: go back and do over. And that's why I really 177 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 5: left the production up the slip you getting me because 178 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: I wasn't you know, I dibbled and dad, but I 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: wasn't no motherfucking producer like he was. 180 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: You get me. 181 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 5: That nigga knew how to you know he was a 182 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 5: he was a producer. You get to find the records 183 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 5: and the crate. Nigga listened to two seconds of some 184 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 5: ship and could chop that ship up and make it 185 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 5: a whole fucking song. And so I left my production 186 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 5: up to a nigga who knew what he was doing. 187 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 5: You get me, I didn't have that ego like fuck that. 188 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna produce my own ship. Now, if 189 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: it was left up to it and I had the 190 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 5: free time and there was two songs left on the record, 191 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: I probably go in fuck with Willie Z and we 192 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 5: come up with some ship. But for the most part, Nick, No, 193 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 5: this nigga got. He got the equipment and the drum machine, 194 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 5: and he got the rack full of You get me, 195 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 5: this nigga got the rack full of e q's and 196 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 5: sounds and all that shit. Nigga, Please go ahead and 197 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: do what you do. My nigga, let me know when 198 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: you finish, so I could start pinning my ship. 199 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: That's what I concentrate it all. 200 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: Because it was enough niggas out there that you had 201 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: competition with. You get me niggas like Brad, niggas like Cube. 202 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 5: You get me niggas. 203 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 6: All the heavy hitters in your ear. 204 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: Niggas was putting out records. 205 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: Man, You get me the Ghetto Boys and Cube and 206 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 5: Easy and Them and then Too Short and E forty 207 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 5: and then and Spice, and then then you go on 208 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 5: over to New York and niggas like LLL and Big 209 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 5: Daddy Kane and E P and d dropping ship. You know, 210 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 5: like nigga, you had competition, and. 211 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 6: The coldest thing was didn't nobody sounded like see nobody. 212 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: Sounded like it was hard? 213 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: It was hard. You get me Ship. Niggas did a song. 214 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 5: Nigga, you nigga, you you don't bite it, you feel me. 215 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: We was very hard upon niggas biting styles and even 216 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: slang words and ship you know, I mean you you 217 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 5: you kind of look at it a days as I 218 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 5: guess you want to say a nigga trying to give 219 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 5: you, you know, your props or whatever. But back in the days, 220 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 5: we hated when niggas bit each other's styles, like nigga, 221 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: create your own lane. 222 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: That's what made That's what made. 223 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 5: Hip hop good, and it made it competitive because everybody, 224 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 5: you get me, you didn't have. You didn't have ten 225 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: public enemies. You didn't have motherfucking five ice cubes. You 226 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 5: give me, you didn't have fucking eight Compton's most wanted 227 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 5: you give me. 228 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: Everybody was authentic. 229 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 5: Today it's like shit, I want to sound I want 230 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: my shit to sound like that nigga you know, whatever 231 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 5: is popular right now, it's what crack and. 232 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: I think when you first started off. I think when 233 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: you first start off, everybody kind of trying to mimic 234 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: who it is a day admire. 235 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 6: To a certain degree. 236 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: Right, you ain't trying to bite these stuff all the way. 237 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: But you got somebody that you influenced by, right, what 238 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 239 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: Me and I mean me and Chill with Shit. Nigg 240 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: was the We was the West Coast e pm D. 241 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 5: You get me. That's why we That's what we looked 242 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: at ourselves because we grew up banging e pm D, 243 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 5: but we didn't try to sound like them. S. 244 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: You kind of get inspired by him, you know what 245 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying. You get inspired, but you definitely start to 246 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: develop your own sound and stuff. I think the biggest 247 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: perth today man. Like I said, I think people got 248 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: too much access g and I think it's cool in 249 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: the way that kids can go in their bedroom and 250 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: make a record. 251 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 6: They might come up with a hit. But I think 252 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 6: that lead to the. 253 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: Cats not having careers because you know, you mess around 254 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: to come up with a record on your own. 255 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 6: You don't even know how you got that motherfucker. 256 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean. 257 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: Don't know, I mean definitely more access you. I can't 258 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: imagine how much work you had to go through to 259 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: get somebody to invest into music in y'all era, like, 260 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: because it was tough in my era. Like again, like 261 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm grown up. I'm forty now, so it's like I'm 262 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: not the little kid, and it was tough for my era, 263 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: Like like I remember going to the studio for Guedo 264 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: and like the first time rappit for him and him 265 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: slamming the door in my face, like you gotta get tighter. 266 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 267 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: Like he had all the dat machines and all of 268 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: that stuff, and you feel me and having to go 269 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: get tighter just to earn a chance to record with 270 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: somebody who had enough experience to produce records. 271 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: Now, where were you at your where was you at 272 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: in your like kind of development when you got took 273 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: over Drey's house when Tred was listening to you sh 274 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: at the party. 275 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: Barely tight enough to what Guido thought I was tight. 276 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: So we had just started working like I had So 277 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: the first time he slammed the door in my face, 278 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: I went home. I kept recording myself like I was 279 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: early on that recording myself. I had cool let it pro, 280 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: and I would be I was in a battle rap 281 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: league online, so I would go sell shrim all day 282 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: on the seven and be fugging up, and then when 283 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: I go home to the spot, I would just be 284 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: developing my writing, kind of like therapy. Like it was 285 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: a lot at that time. We was beefing with everybody, 286 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: A lot of shit going on, you know what I mean, 287 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: Homies going to jail, niggas dying. So I would be 288 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: writing just to keep my mind sharp, because you don't 289 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: hanging out with the homies. Everybody high and drunk all 290 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: the time, you know what I mean. Not everybody, but 291 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: it ain't a great conversation to your thoughts, you know 292 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I would go home and get 293 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: on the pin and rap on his thing, type my 294 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: lyrics or record myself. So the first time I went 295 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: and he slammed the door on my face. Shit, I 296 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: was on a mission, you know what I mean. Now 297 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: that's a challenge. You know I get still when I 298 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: get a challenge. I like that. So I just start 299 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: going harder and getting better and just really rapping every 300 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: day and coming home from slanging it in. I start 301 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: going to Taco Studio. I did some stuff for Kiki Loko, 302 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: and I started noticing they thought I was killing shit. 303 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: So I knew I had stepped up. So I go 304 00:15:54,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: back to the studio and I rapped and he was like, okay, 305 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: you I don't know what he said. I don't know 306 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: what you did, but yeah, you know what I mean. 307 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: I played in them records, all right. 308 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: So that's how we start working. 309 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: And then ninety days after that's when I meet dra 310 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, not messing with pool. 311 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: You go sit down with him. He's like, man, bring 312 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: me a record. 313 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: I do something for you. 314 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: You bought him a record. I wonder why you think 315 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: you ain't took advantage of that relationship more because I 316 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: remember he gave us some records for you. 317 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: Should I have took advantage of it. He gave me 318 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: two tips that changed my life. 319 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't. 320 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: Know what was funny, man, I don't think I really 321 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: ever tripped off working with Dre like that. Like, don't 322 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: get me wrong, Like all the writing stuff and doing 323 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: stuff for him or messing with the homies that was 324 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: with him. That was cool, But like even when I 325 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: met Dre, Bro my attitude, you know, I was so 326 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: like and I mean ignorant, not in the black way, 327 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: but like in the real way. Like I had no 328 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: idea what doctor Dre meant to the music business. 329 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 6: Z ask them for records and stuff, like I'm. 330 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: Talking to this nigga like he's a nigga from cant 331 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: no real story, Bro, this is no lie. 332 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: I was more starstruck when I met Eight at the 333 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Homie at the Big Homie. 334 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: Bone House then when I met Dre at his house, 335 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: because Dre was like different, you know what I mean. 336 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: He don't get me wrong. He was a nigga from 337 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 3: n w A. He was a nigga on death row. 338 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: He had did this, but like it was different, you 339 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: know what I mean. It was somebody more like yeah 340 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: he make music versus Eight or Dog or somebody. He 341 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: was more like hood stars, you know what I mean, 342 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: like niggas from games that you heard about and you 343 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: knew niggas homies and they made it. 344 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, They made it big. They 345 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: changed their life. 346 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: So when I would always talk to Dre and to 347 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: this day, like you know, two weeks ago, like when 348 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: I talked Dre. I talked to him like something nigga 349 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: from counter. I mean, now it's different because I understand 350 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: what he was able to accomplish, So it's a different reverence. 351 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: And it was always a respect. But I remember when 352 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: I when he heard two Pac months down. He's like, man, Glass, 353 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: you need to apologize. And I remember laughing him out 354 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 3: the room, this doctor Dre, And I'm laughing about the room, like, yo, 355 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: ass crazy, there's no chance. 356 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 6: You may have made one list. 357 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: BIX told you to apologize about two Pac months done? 358 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: I go, you shold me? 359 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: He was. I told him. I was like, man, you 360 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: ain't fuck the police. What are we talking about? 361 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: Like? 362 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 6: Man, you know what I noticed? 363 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: Though? 364 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: Man, I think as you get older, you become more 365 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 2: conscious of what you say, because I know when I 366 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: was younger, I would go on record and say damn anything. 367 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: I think when you get older, you for sure think 368 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: about the people that's gonna listen to you and what 369 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: kind of message you gonna be putting out there. 370 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, with with age comes I guess maturity, 371 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 5: how people say. 372 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: I said all kind of shit when I was nineteen twenty. 373 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 5: You give me twenty one, But I guess as you 374 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 5: older and you continue to, you know, dabble in the arts, 375 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 5: people really just want to hear something from an older 376 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 5: mind state. You get me, and that's where you gotta 377 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 5: kind of, you know, go with your shit. Of course, 378 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 5: you know, when I was in the hood and witnessing 379 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 5: and dealing and doing all kinds of shit, my outlook 380 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: on life is gonna be something that I need to 381 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 5: connect with the homies with. You get me, because I'm 382 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 5: right here going through the same shit they going through. 383 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 5: So why not speak about, you know, the eels of 384 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 5: what we're going through as young black men. You give 385 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 5: me because that's going on in all the neighborhoods. But 386 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 5: I guess, you know, as you mature, you gotta kind of, 387 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 5: you know, know, wordshit differently because niggas, you know, they 388 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 5: want to hear the growth and maturity from a motherfucker. Also, 389 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 5: you give me. You got to be able to mature 390 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 5: and grow, and I guess whatever you're dealing with, you know, 391 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: you got to show that that that you have been 392 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: able to, you know, witness other shit besides shit you 393 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 5: was doing when you was nineteen and twenty. You know, 394 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 5: you're fifty years old. They damn show, gonna want to 395 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 5: hear something else or whatever else that you want to. 396 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 5: You know, if you still dabbling, you got to be 397 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: able to talk to a nigga in a different kind 398 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 5: of aspect, you feel me. Don't have to change your 399 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: street or but you know, you still have to be 400 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 5: able to talk to a nigga in a mature manner, 401 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 5: whether it's you know, young niggas or older you feel me. 402 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: I think I think that like a dude like Drake, 403 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: I can imagine he did see everything too, man, I 404 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: think at the time, Man, I think at a time 405 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: like I don't would never say I got tired of 406 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: rap because I love music, but I definitely wanted to 407 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: take stuff to the next level, Like even as far 408 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 2: as expanding on your production and stuff. Man, you know 409 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: you start incorporating horn players and stuff like that, and 410 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: percussionists and stuff like that. 411 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think to your point, you start to feel 412 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: restricted because I remember teasing you about. 413 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: That ship Yeah, making R and B music. It was 414 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: R and B music. 415 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: But I do why because you start to feel like 416 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: hip hop is restricted, you know what I mean? 417 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: And and used to love ship stiff, that's what you was. 418 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: Nigga would have horns and he'd be rapping and then 419 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 3: be doing the horn parts with his fingers. 420 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you. 421 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: Get it, get it though, get it now though, I 422 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: get it so and I feel for Dre. I feel 423 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: for Dre and I feel for legends, you know what 424 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 3: I mean in that situation. 425 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: But I'm also say this right. 426 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: There is a development about people that come from where 427 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: we come from. That don't mean you abandon this. 428 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: It evolves. 429 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: So like my older homies they not hanging out on 430 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: the seven or them dudes is a part of motorcycle clubs, 431 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: or they got cigarette boats and they go to the 432 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: uh the lake in Arizona to have a sue and 433 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: like like, and I feel like it's important you feel me. 434 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: You look like you fall asleep. Still open up, you. 435 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: Trust me. 436 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: People gonna be talking about that part, remember that too. 437 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 6: I hate that. 438 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: Man. 439 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 6: I'm looking listen to what you're saying, like I'm going 440 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 6: to sleep. 441 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 3: No, you should see your face though, I. 442 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 6: Need to work my glasses. I need to get my. 443 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: Hook up on my all that look at his face 444 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 3: at twenty two thirty and tell me what you think. 445 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: Don't he look crazy? 446 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 5: My nigga say already, don't still say nigga, that's just 447 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 5: that's just how I happened, and I should he said, 448 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: I don't be sleep nigga. 449 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: Nigga looked like he'd be gold like a motherfucker. 450 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: And what you're saying, no, no, But the point I'm 451 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: saying is I think, like I think, I respect H 452 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 3: eight has evolved as an MC where it's not completely 453 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: oblivious to street culture, like he didn't mature into like 454 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 3: a soccer dad. He sounds like MC eight that grew 455 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: up and content, that's with track new, that's an adult 456 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: that got kids now and living his life. It don't 457 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: sound like he Sometimes a lot of the mature minds 458 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: in hip hop or especially from the West, will sound 459 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 3: like they never ever saw the streets now, And I'm like, 460 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: you can't get that off. 461 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's fear man. I think, what dog? 462 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 6: His niggas just be trying to push the ship to 463 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 6: the outer. 464 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: Limits, staying in limits, you know what. 465 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: And that's one thing I could respect about eight because 466 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: eight is real conscious about staying in his lane, about 467 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: staying where he's at. 468 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 6: You feel what I'm saying, like, I gotta be right here. 469 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: This is where I'm at even about BPMS, Like because 470 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, I'll be want to I'll be 471 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: saying sometimes, man to be hard. If I had eight 472 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: but an orchestra and I had a dude over here 473 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: doing this with the file lin and all this, that 474 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: ha sound real menacing. 475 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: You could do. 476 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: That for his albums that came out in the nineties. 477 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: You can't do it with Shiit today. So like, yeah, 478 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 3: if you play straight up minutes with the orchestra, that's fire. 479 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: He ain't got no business rapping on the orchestra, making 480 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: an orchestra song some brand new stuff, because I mean 481 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: it's it's not to say it won't even sound good. 482 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: It just becomes you know, you don't want to go there. 483 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: You don't want to go there to McDonald's bro and 484 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: they put ketchup on your big man or mustard. 485 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 4: That just. 486 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, you guys have successful brands. 487 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: You know, whether it's eight, whether it's Doll, whether it's Snoop, 488 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: whether it's Doll Pad. 489 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 5: I tell all the time, you have to stay you 490 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 5: have to stay loyal to the fans. That's you get 491 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 5: me and and true fans don't want. 492 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: To hear that other ship. You get me. 493 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: True fans want to see you stay in the lane 494 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 5: in the basis of what built your career. 495 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: Now. 496 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 5: I'm not saying you gotta beat you know, you gotta 497 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 5: sound like the nigga you was back in eighty nine 498 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 5: or ninety one, but don't stray away from the concepts 499 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 5: and the rules of what made us true fans of 500 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 5: yours and that and and so you have to remember 501 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: that if you still making music today, you have to 502 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 5: consider what got you to the point of where you 503 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 5: are now, because those are the motherfuckers that still want 504 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 5: to hear you. 505 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: You get me. You might pick up some new fans 506 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: along the way, but you want to. 507 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: Stay true to that core because that's what That's what MutS, 508 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 5: that's what it means to them, you get me. They 509 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: feel honored and great when you do some shit that's 510 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: in your lane and you're not trying to compete with 511 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 5: what's going on today, and you're giving them true uh, 512 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: you know, that true sound of what made them motherfuckers 513 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 5: want to fuck with you in the first place. 514 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if any of your hercub's new joint that it's 515 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: my ego. Yeah, it's probably the biggest record. They saying 516 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: it's the biggest record you had commercial wise. 517 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 3: I think they're talking about from a streaming air perspective. 518 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a cool record. Actually though I like it. 519 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I like it from a songwriting perspective. 520 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 6: I think it's cool. I think it's a dope record. 521 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: It's definitely he feels it's him feeling more comfortable than 522 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: he felt to me on Mount Westmore. 523 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: And the video is really good too. You can tell 524 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: you having more fun. 525 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 3: He kind of started a home space where he had 526 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: as a creative you know, I mean as a as 527 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: a as a creative legend. He's starting to own the space. 528 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: So it works a little bit more like you can 529 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: feel the pill of it. 530 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 4: I like it. 531 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 2: Well, you know what I was thinking, man like like 532 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 2: with cats, like like with q Be coming out doing 533 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: this thing. He keeping this stuff like really authentic to 534 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: who we yields. And I remember you want to did 535 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: the thing for the Homies in DC when you came out, 536 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 2: you know, get the whole live instrumization thing, and he 537 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: was out there and I was like, man, that's just dope. 538 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: I think he could really pull that off. Man Like 539 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: doing the. 540 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: Piss me off. I told him to do this. 541 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I told nobout it. 542 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 3: I said, bro, if you had eight, we should have 543 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 3: eight perform with music, because y'all, shit is music. 544 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: Dog new single, I think Dog New Single. 545 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: I'm so glad that they didn't try a bunch of shit. 546 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: They didn't try to they didn't try to do a 547 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: bunch of crazy shit. They kept it just on brand. 548 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 3: That's all you gotta do. 549 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 6: Now. 550 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: Growth is about marketing. 551 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 3: It ain't about taking new risk with sound at this point, 552 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: for certain legends, it's really about really trippling down on 553 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: a brand and getting more people to approve. Because when 554 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: eight first started, or when Snoop first started, or when 555 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: ice t first started, I'm sure with no brands, would 556 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: no major corps come near them, you know what I mean, 557 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: because it was like this is way too risky so forth. 558 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: But now it's not like that, Like eight could have 559 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: a deal with you know, with old English, today they would, 560 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: they would say it now because you know, street urban 561 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: culture has become like synonymous with just being cool for everybody. 562 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: Like now Martha Stewart could hang with Snoop and nobody 563 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: is criticizing her for hanging with a crip, so have 564 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: the Olympics and and Dre and Snoop. Could you know 565 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: be on the Olympics performing songs where they saying, you 566 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: know what I mean f the police on national television. 567 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: You mean so to me? The next step for like 568 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: the legends that I grew up listening to is really 569 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: making better plays and connecting their brand with greater brands, 570 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: because the greater brands will expose you, and they don't 571 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: do nothing but solidified to a bunch of white people 572 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: who already heard of you. 573 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: It's okay to like MC eight, it's okay, like you 574 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: can be proud of this. 575 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: You know what I've been kind of trying to figure 576 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: out too, right, Yeah, you know you have them like 577 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: looking at him, going to go do the off the 578 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: porch stuff, right, Yeah, and just what we was talking about, right, 579 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: it's really expound on that dog and really like reintroducing 580 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: like the Hood took me under to the twenty twenty 581 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: four youth, no, the kids of this era, to the 582 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: like you know that era, but by doing it like 583 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: at a tiny desk where it's over live instrumentation, Dog, 584 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: I think they just get a music, just a whole 585 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: new life. 586 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: Dog. 587 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: So the fact we call it tiny desk when they've 588 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: been doing a tammy show since the sixties. You know 589 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you've been seeing this before before MTV's 590 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: music video. Like when I go back and study, you know, 591 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: I'll be studying all the time, and I go back 592 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: and look pre MTV. 593 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: That's how all that shit was. 594 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: They was all just it was live musicianship. So we 595 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: just got to get back to the music, not just 596 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: the records, because I think with people here get back 597 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: to the music. They think of getting back to the records. No, 598 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: get back to the music. Like the music pre MTV 599 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: was an experienced. MTV made it to where it was 600 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: a backing track and you perform in the song. But 601 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: before that you had to really it was, you know, 602 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: off the porch. 603 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 4: It was every was that exactly. You have to be 604 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: able to perform. Back in the days, it was people. 605 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 3: Up when they seen eight, they was like, oh this 606 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: nigga really got it, Like you know, you could tell 607 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: you could see a master at work versus some dude 608 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: that got a good record exactly. 609 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing today what I tell cats 610 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: is I see cats come up there. Like when I 611 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: first saw Ti Grizzly. Remember when everybody the industry kind 612 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: of was giving him his moment because that song was 613 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: so big. He was out there doing songs. Man, they 614 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: just had the microphone in his hand with the track 615 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: playing in the background. He was kind of on stage, 616 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: is kind of diddy bopping, big Man diddy bopping, and 617 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that is not gonna work. 618 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 7: Bro. 619 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: People came to hear you say that over them over 620 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: your microphone. That's what I think. Anyway, I thought this 621 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: stage show was horrible at first. He's gotten a lot better. 622 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: But I thought this show was horrible at first. 623 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: But this is why I always give a lot of 624 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: credit to y'all generation in hip hop, Like y'all understood 625 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: that because y'all grew up watching y'all kind of young, 626 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: but y'all kind of saw Sam Cook, y'all saw James Brown. 627 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: I mean, these are people you saw, even if you 628 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: didn't see them. I doubt either one of y'all saw 629 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: James Brown and his prime crime with James Brown. 630 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: Fully. I mean you saw James Brown probably later. 631 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 4: On well performers. 632 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 5: You know, you got to watch Soul Train, and you 633 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 5: got to watch American Band Stand and then you got 634 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 5: to watch you know a lot of the shows where 635 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 5: you know, performers performed, and we had you know. 636 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 7: We. 637 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: Had t r L. 638 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: We want to sit at park just up there rapping. 639 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: It's a bigger music played. 640 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 5: Looking at you know, we watched those uh, those motherfucking 641 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 5: American Music Award shows when when you know, bands had 642 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 5: to perform and the earth winds and fires and the 643 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 5: ship and niggas really performed. There was no track looping 644 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 5: in the background and vocals over the t you know. 645 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 4: So, uh, my generation saw that as kids. 646 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 5: So if you got into the entertainment business, a lot 647 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 5: of us grew up off of that, you know, performances 648 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 5: and stage shows, and so you knew, you know, you 649 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 5: gotta connect with the crowd, and you got to move 650 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 5: around and if you can have props and stage show presence, 651 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 5: and because that's what people come to see, you get me. 652 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 4: You know, some people adapt to that. 653 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 5: But you know, like I said, the generation gap between 654 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 5: what we saw as kids and what the kids are 655 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: seeing now is a total different you know area, you know. 656 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: Not just the short and gee, but I would listening 657 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: to this girl's record the other day, a girl I 658 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: was asking thinking about doing something with Mter mixing for 659 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: that song that we got that we're doing for the 660 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: one ten thing, and I was listening to it, but 661 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: she wrapped and I. 662 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 6: Might like when they seen me coming down, and I'm like, 663 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 6: how are you gonna wrap that? 664 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: In person? 665 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 6: Like, how do you say that to a stinging full 666 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 6: of people? 667 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 4: You up there whispering. 668 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: I did a show in Seattle a couple of weeks ago, right. 669 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: It was a dope, little small venue. It was one 670 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: of my favorite shows I did probably in the last 671 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: ten years. And it was a dude who rapped before me. 672 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: He had to be in his fifties. He was you 673 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 3: could tell he had been rapping for I even thought 674 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: about rapping, like he already knew what rap was. And 675 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: I think I sent you a video of how he 676 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: was holding his mic. 677 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I was like, who is that? 678 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: I wanted you to send that to aid, Right, But 679 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: I remember being so enamored with his style and confidence 680 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 3: to hold his mic that way. And I watched a 681 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: lot of rappers coming up. They cut the mic, they 682 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: stick the mic down, it's almost like they hide in 683 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: their mouth. It is a level of confidence you should 684 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: have as a hip hop artist where you're confident and 685 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: you could tell they're still shy, you know what I mean, 686 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: Like some of them do the jay z where they 687 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: got the finger over the nose, and but it was 688 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: this g dude and he was holding the mic like 689 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: upside down, like he was talking like announcing a fight, 690 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: and it was like the most it was the dopest 691 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: thing I saw in so long, and it was that 692 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 3: hip hop energy, that energy where you're not doing something 693 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: the way it's supposed to be done, but you can 694 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 3: see that your bravado carries it through and then you 695 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: create something. 696 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, that people never saw. 697 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: And I remember him telling me like, man, you should 698 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 3: try it, and I'm thinking, like, I don't got nowhere 699 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: near the moxie or years to even attempt. 700 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 4: Mic because. 701 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't blocking his face so you can see his face. 702 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 5: That yeah, I want to get that residence you want. 703 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 5: You're gonna hear none but voice coming to this motherfucker 704 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 5: down or hold it like that, nigg I'm putting this mother. 705 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: He knew what he was doing because he had like 706 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: this that one of the tricks quick game in the studio, 707 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: hold your throat up like this when. 708 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: You do your thing, keep your cheir up, nigga. 709 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: And that dude was serving and I was just thinking, like, 710 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, so I don't I don't want to be 711 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to be hypercritical because again, I grew 712 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 3: up in the era of t R Rail, you know 713 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: what I mean, and and and and and one O 714 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 3: six and Park, So we didn't have that. But I 715 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: just got blessed enough to have time and make money 716 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: to where I can go back and then experience the 717 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 3: Tammi Show. I can go back and look at four 718 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: hundred Soul training episodes. I can go back and look 719 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: at all these American bandstands, different performance, very white, and 720 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is how it's supposed to go, 721 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 722 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: So you know again, it's like. 723 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: Getting back to the music, getting back to the bass, 724 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: getting back to the guitar, getting back to the drums, 725 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: getting back to the keyboard. 726 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: Getting back to the music. 727 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, when people saw music versus 728 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 3: they seeing you and they hearing music, Like, it's different. 729 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: When I watched that, I remember sending you that back 730 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: poor stuff, like posting it on my Twitter, like you 731 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 3: see the bass if you don't just hear it. I 732 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 3: see it. I see the drums, I see the I'm 733 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 3: more intrigued. And then you watch a legend servant you like, 734 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: that's it. 735 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: I swear. Man. 736 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 2: When Glasses saw that off the pork stuff, he was 737 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 2: so mad at me. He was like, mane, somebody else 738 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: do it and you And I said, bro, we had 739 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: been talking about it, but it was one of them things. 740 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 6: Now you think you gonna have time to do something, man. 741 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: Rat this mistake made and life is thinking you got time. 742 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: You can still do it though, Bro, we can still 743 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: do that, you know what I mean. It's like you 744 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 2: don't have no copyright on that and. 745 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: In its fly. 746 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but man, I remember just looking 747 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 3: like wow, you know what I mean, it's like your 748 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: childhood again. 749 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: You just see it. 750 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: Like that is show fire like. 751 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 6: But I'm not mad. 752 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm not mad that he did do it with them, 753 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: because you know them dudes in DC get busy, right. 754 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. I love it. 755 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 6: I love it and the fact how they had and 756 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 6: they did it right. They had him coming about the logo. 757 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 3: I said, look at just wasn't the lo lo But yes, 758 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 3: it was out of an old Chevy. 759 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 6: It was out here. 760 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 4: It wasn't the logo, but it was old chef. 761 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: He was alright, they nailed it, but it was just 762 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 3: it's no butt for what they did. It's just upset 763 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 3: and us for not doing the same thing for our legends. 764 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 3: We don't even have that for our legends. This is 765 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 3: what I be sweating problem and Pawn and different armies about, 766 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 3: Like what do we got for our legends? 767 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 2: That's something that would sell out once or twice a 768 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: month downtown somewhere. Though if you had different cats, if 769 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 2: you had eight com and do his show with the 770 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: what's e. Peach's band, the Firnest Band, you feel what 771 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 2: I'm saying, People would sell that out. Oh, you would 772 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: get two or three thousand people that come to see that. 773 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: Though them dudes could really rock. 774 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: That's the problem, and it's like it's what immortalizes your legend. 775 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: Like like I get mad when I see the. 776 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: Shout out to the good folks at NPR for tiny desk, 777 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 3: but like for them to show showcase scarfaces brad Ship, Like, 778 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: how the hell are we not doing this for our people? Yeah? 779 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: I hate that it goes to them and obviously. 780 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 5: What I'm saying, honestly, do you honestly think that niggas 781 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 5: that there's enough love for legends on our side man 782 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 5: or into the accomplished? 783 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: Because hey, listen to me. 784 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 5: I remember, we deal with this, We deal with this, 785 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 5: you know this aspect of you know, legends and icons 786 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 5: as far ass music concerned as West Coast. 787 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 4: But I don't think niggas. 788 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 7: In my shoes truly feel that we are appreciated as 789 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 7: far as the West Coast is concerned. 790 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: Because this is what I'm saying. 791 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 4: More, let me tell you something. 792 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 5: You can put together a concert right now with me 793 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 5: and a couple of legends and it'll be more essays 794 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 5: coming in niggas. 795 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: But listen, listen to what I'm saying though. 796 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 5: So why do you think that, why do you think 797 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 5: it would be more essays show up than niggas? 798 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 4: Why? 799 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: Well, let me let me let me ask you this 800 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna just bear with me, let me 801 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 3: work through this. No, because it's important. Right. Look, right 802 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 3: fifteen years ago, fifteen or sixteen years ago, I'm sitting 803 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 3: with the program director at KD trying to put together 804 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 3: so they like man gee, so they asking me to 805 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: reach out to Wayne. They you know, I'm saying to 806 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 3: cash money, like, man, reach out to tune. I'm like, man, 807 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 3: tune getting like half a million dollars a joint right now. 808 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 3: Like I just was with them dudes on the road 809 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: doing shows. They giving me twenty on passive income, Like 810 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: this ain't nothing, you feel me? Like they getting five honey. 811 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 3: He like, see if you can get him to do 812 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: it for two hundred. I'm like, man, you tripping. He 813 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 3: like why, And I'm like, may you be better off 814 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 3: booking every legend you can from the West, right, booking 815 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 3: every legend from the West and putting them in one venue. 816 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 3: He like, oh, man, people ain't gonna buy that. I'm like, 817 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 3: of course they will. 818 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: He said, why you think so? 819 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: I said, because it's a good time in our lives 820 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 3: that we get to go celebrate every time. So the 821 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 3: program director that k They looking at me crazy. I'm like, 822 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm telling you now, at this time Dog is doing 823 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 3: rooms that whole two to four thousand. 824 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: At this time, Short is doing clubs. 825 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 3: You can still get Short and forty at clubs, you 826 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 3: feel me. So it sounds crazy to him, but I'm 827 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: telling him, if you pack all these people together you 828 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: bring back a time that was a great time for 829 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 3: everybody who listens to this radio station. 830 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: So he said, okay, listen. 831 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 3: It takes me a little while convincing, right, So we 832 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: put it together. We call the event How the West 833 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 3: Was Won. We have another. 834 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: We call the other event Crush Groove. Right. 835 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: So the first How the West was One sales out 836 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: in ninety six. 837 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: Hours, ninety six hours. 838 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 3: Since then, the program director of KD has been doing 839 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 3: them now for fifteen years. Now. 840 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: You even buck Q. You can't even bunk dog. 841 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 3: Again if you don't set the presidents of how to 842 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: respect legends and hip hop. We at that same proverbial 843 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: place that rock was probably in the seventies and eighties 844 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 3: and nineties, where you kind of didn't know what to 845 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: do with your legends, you know what I mean. 846 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: But somebody figured it out, just like we figured it out. Now. 847 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 3: You look at Snoop, He's in the arena every night, 848 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 3: Cuba's in the arena every night. 849 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: It don't work no other way. So it's up to 850 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: even West Coast hip hop. 851 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 3: Because one of the hardest things I'll be on all 852 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 3: the legends about is not telling me about Uncle Jam's army. 853 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 3: Not telling me about you know, Lonzo and the World 854 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: Class Record Crew, the real history of West Coast hip hop. 855 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: I just found out about our Pine Village. I never 856 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 3: even heard of that, like all my life. Hey, we 857 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: drove by that shit on the one ten, Like, oh, 858 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 3: that's what the white people be never knew. 859 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: Niggas used to be at the our Pine Village. 860 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what it is is And to your question, 861 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 3: I think brothers you know, are to our spot that 862 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 3: everything they have to they are on limited budgets, so 863 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 3: everything they spend their money on is what they believe 864 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 3: carries social currency. 865 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: So they always looking for. 866 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 3: The next thing. Well guess what they always pop up at. 867 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 3: How the West was one because we put social currency 868 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 3: on it. So this is what we're talking about right now, 869 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 3: when design is creating something that puts social currency on me. 870 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 3: And then once you add social currency, then the value 871 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 3: changes for your heritage and your legendary X. You just 872 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 3: got to put it in a little bit work. But 873 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 3: there's so much West Coast Hip hop history that the 874 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 3: average person don't know that I just figured out and 875 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 3: I'm telling every young still around me, Hey, no, these 876 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 3: niggas right here. You know what I mean, nobody else 877 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 3: is doing it. There's no movie that talks about the 878 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 3: competition between World Class and Uncle Jam's. 879 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: Army, like five hours. 880 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 3: People don't know about Unknown's history and iced tea and 881 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 3: how that matters to com like this history is incredible. 882 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 3: We don't have a crush groove right now. Everybody thinks 883 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 3: our history starts. We're straight out of content. 884 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 2: And I tell eight, I tell eight all the time 885 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: how big that stuff will because I see g we 886 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 2: talk about it. All we have to do is go 887 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 2: do it, bro. All we gotta do is go get 888 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: the venue. We got the we got the band dog, 889 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 2: we got we got them the platform to do with 890 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 2: the platforms, and. 891 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: We got the people. 892 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: And I swear to god, eight, I'm so sick of 893 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: seeing niggas the ideas that me and this man had 894 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: five and six years ago, and they're doing when they 895 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: blow up my black Man, there we go. 896 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 6: We lost anohing. 897 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 2: Like I'm looking at the owner radar stuff ge and 898 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 2: that's the Remember I wants to do the thing called 899 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: the bar Exam. That's the bar Exam where I was 900 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 2: gonna have a things. You just eight were just a 901 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 2: sign and just let people come and just get off. 902 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: I thought of that so long ago and just never 903 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: did it. 904 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 3: Listen, Man, God gives you a good idea if you 905 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 3: don't usually give it to somebody else. 906 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 2: Definitely, I see that the whole time. I see with 907 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: that on the radar, shout out to them though they're 908 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 2: doing anything. But I had that same idea I was 909 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: till it's gonna be called the bar exam. 910 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 5: They us, well, like they say, a lot of great 911 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 5: minds think alike. It's just that sometimes, uh, sometimes we 912 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 5: procrastinate with. 913 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: Shit for no reason. Eight and I hold the relationships. 914 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 4: And it's not that we do it purposely. 915 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 5: But when you a motherfucker that you got multiple shit 916 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 5: going on, sometimes that great idea might slip you up 917 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 5: because you think of it. But like you said, there's 918 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 5: another nigga thinking just like you. So it's on you 919 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 5: to execute or or pull the trigger when you know 920 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like a nigga said, the greatest investment 921 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 5: is to invest in yourself. So if if you know, 922 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 5: you might be doubting, or it might take a couple 923 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 5: of dollars to do or whatever, but sometimes you got 924 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 5: to pull the trigger because uh, you know, uh, your 925 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 5: idea is being thought of by somebody else who also 926 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 5: has a great mind. And trust me, there's been a 927 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 5: gang of ship we done thought of that somebody down 928 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 5: the street or across the country then thought of and 929 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 5: next thing you know, you're like, damn, Like you said, 930 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 5: uh damn, that was my idea. 931 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 6: I shouldn't have waited. You can't be mad at them 932 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 6: because they don't know. I don't know that. I don't 933 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 6: know them O raid our people from a hole in 934 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 6: the wall, or can pain. 935 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 5: Though exactly they aga I'm thinking the same ship. 936 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 937 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 5: So you just got to be able to pull the 938 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 5: trigger when you think of something, when you can't doubt yourself. 939 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 5: You get me, man, fuck this, man, I'm finna do 940 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 5: this ship like fuck it. There's why waste on it. 941 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 4: You get me. 942 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 5: Right now, Somebody in their garage or in their basement 943 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 5: or living room or studio, they thinking of the same shit. 944 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 4: And tomorrow they gonna wake up and they gonna pull 945 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 4: the trigger. Yep. 946 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you another one we had and 947 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 6: it ain't me this glasses. 948 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 2: Glasses used to tell us, man, I need to have 949 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: shows at my house in the backyard on my own residency. Man, 950 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 2: we laughed at him so hard. Ey I said, dude, 951 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 2: you just don't want to go on the road. You 952 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: being laisy. I said, why you don't want to go 953 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 2: on the road, You canna make the fans come to 954 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 2: your house. I thought he was out of his mind. Man, 955 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 2: when I. 956 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 6: Tell you that, the Captain Russell blew up doing that. Bro, 957 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 6: what it is. 958 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: Is so the more home. 959 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 3: What keeps me fresh even at my age now is 960 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm learning like everything. 961 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: I did, all the money I first made. 962 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 3: When I got this bit, it was natural, like niggas 963 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 3: really is the genuine article. Like I wasn't like this 964 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 3: real like all the stories we talk about in these 965 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 3: songs selling dog shootouts, low rock. 966 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: This this ain't no thing. 967 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 3: So thank god I stayed sober enough to articulate it, 968 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 3: and I got this natural ability of rhythm that I 969 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 3: can articulate it. But I had no skill set outside 970 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 3: of the repetition of writing raps. I had no idea 971 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 3: what the record was. I was only as dope as 972 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 3: the producer I was working with. So you know, remember, 973 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 3: my natural ability carried me outside of Guidos production and 974 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 3: who I worked with After my natural ability carried me 975 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 3: into twenty eleven and twelve, like that's when I first 976 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 3: started learning, right, That's how I got my first gold record, 977 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 3: and then I started learning. So even now, like right now, 978 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm reading this book right and I'm learning storytelling. I'm 979 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 3: learning like turning my innate because I'm naturally a storyteller, 980 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: turning that into technique and skill where I could always 981 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 3: call on it like a Kareem hook shot. It don't. 982 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 3: I don't need no jumper. I don't need to come 983 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 3: get passion and dunk the ball and let me let 984 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 3: me hit you with this all night. Because so that's 985 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 3: what keep your ideas fresh. The more new stuff and 986 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 3: shit you learn, the technique you learning, you know what 987 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying, That's what keep you fresh. So it's like 988 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 3: every idea, I'll be bringing it back because even the residency, 989 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 3: I'm starting to understand hip hop is culture like it's 990 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 3: street urban culture. Like that's what made like I said, 991 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 3: the NWA movement the Consain's most want movement of death 992 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 3: for all these movements, flyers culturally what they represented at 993 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 3: that time, where people can get from the lessons, the 994 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 3: fashion style, the way they talk certain ways they pronounce 995 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 3: things where they shit would be at. It's like, oh, 996 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 3: if this is what it is, you feel me then, man, 997 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 3: I know so much about how we live in La, 998 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 3: Like I know so like our send songs to ice 999 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 3: tea and I'll be talking that car shit and it 1000 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 3: be so over the top. 1001 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 1: He'd be like, nigg look how you He was like, Man, 1002 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: nobody even know what you're saying. But this is how 1003 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: like we talked, you know. 1004 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 3: What I mean, Like squares where feu me for a rack, 1005 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 3: like they have no idea and this is like just 1006 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 3: how we talk exactly. 1007 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 2: You know what, Man, I think that on I really 1008 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 2: think like like A just said, Man, I really think 1009 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 2: we got to stop sleeping on this stuff and just 1010 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 2: want to go do it. 1011 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 3: Dog. 1012 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 2: We can't waste no time, dog, because you would look up, man, 1013 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: and it's like it's the fourth quarter already. Bro, it's 1014 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 2: the years over. 1015 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 4: It's over years old. 1016 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 3: I was looking as saying from the beginning of the year, 1017 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 3: like we got I'm tell him this all the time. 1018 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: Eight I'm like this Nigga is a legend. 1019 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 3: He's right here, Like every crazy idea that's fire, he's 1020 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 3: right here. Like we don't even got to go find 1021 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 3: doll or dre or or or nobody like he's right 1022 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 3: here like this nigga a staple culturally. So everything we 1023 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 3: could try, we could try with eight first and it 1024 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 3: don't do nothing but boaster his brand because one of 1025 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 3: the things hit like like a bar exam or or 1026 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 3: or against the chronicles live that don't do nothing. It's 1027 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 3: gonna do nothing, but it's going to fly because the 1028 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,399 Speaker 3: niggas a fucking pro and a legend. So it's it's 1029 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 3: it's just about us doing it every day, not feeling like, 1030 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's too much. What's the word like 1031 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 3: when you get yeah, because bro comfort you know. 1032 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 4: What I mean? 1033 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 2: The beginning of the year, Remember the beginning of the year. 1034 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 2: I started off on fire. I said, we go do this. 1035 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 2: Then you get sidetracked on other stuff. You start trying 1036 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: to side track. 1037 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 3: But you know also what it is too Also our 1038 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 3: problem is is we're creatives. 1039 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes this ain't the time to be creative. Go to 1040 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: the hook shot right in the middle of a game. 1041 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: Don't be crossing over, putting up on the mid rangers, 1042 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 1: hold up, still, back up that post him up here. 1043 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 3: Hook to me. That's what against the Chronicles Live is 1044 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 3: we're not gambling. That's the Tammy Show again. That's American 1045 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 3: band stand again. That's what they doing right now. You 1046 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,359 Speaker 3: feel me off the porch. That's a hook shot. We 1047 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 3: know that's good money. 1048 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: Bust against the make no hard that would be They 1049 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 2: have people like you know, you king t. 1050 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,280 Speaker 6: People that's just gonna come and show up though. 1051 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: Still being them like this is easy cook shot. 1052 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 3: But what happens is like at the beginning of the year, 1053 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 3: we start getting to creative, We start pursuing creatives versus 1054 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 3: getting getting scoring some points, getting in rhythm. You know 1055 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 3: what I mean? Because like like when you when you 1056 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 3: if you play any organized basketball still and I know 1057 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 3: you deal with football, but in basketball, the first drill 1058 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 3: the coach have you do when it comes to scoring 1059 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 3: the ball, it's a layup line. 1060 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: Don't nobody start the game by shooting mid ranges? Lay 1061 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: the ball up? 1062 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,479 Speaker 3: And I think we have to like when we start 1063 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 3: at the beginning the next year, and as we expand 1064 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 3: the gainst the Chronicle brand and we start to put 1065 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 3: on more culturally for the West. 1066 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: Post up, we already know what's gonna work. We see 1067 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: what's working. 1068 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 3: We got our own brand of it. 1069 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 6: Post up post and you know what she is live music. 1070 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 2: Like I'm looking at all the people that listen to 1071 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 2: the audio of this show, right, I look at all 1072 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 2: them people that be listening to it Dog, and I 1073 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 2: was like, we can put the regular episode up like 1074 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 2: we got Dog, didn't had a special one and dropped up. 1075 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 3: Live. 1076 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 2: Can you imagine how many people wore listening to that 1077 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 2: like it's a conference live music. 1078 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 6: Where as doing ministers like. 1079 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 3: You could do Gains the Chronicles live. He can record 1080 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 3: the audio mix it, eight. 1081 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: Could put it out on James Chronicles. 1082 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 3: I mean a could put it out as m c's 1083 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 3: greatest hits live like it can't like if there or 1084 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 3: five things that turns into simple business that everybody got, 1085 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 3: you know, extra ten thousand dollars a month. 1086 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what. 1087 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 6: Now ain't you got a record? And now ain't you 1088 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 6: got an. 1089 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 2: Album that's twenty some years old, thirty some years old 1090 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: that don't rehentit the charts because of this new thing that. 1091 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 3: You call just what? You got an extra master of 1092 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 3: the live like James Brown live album. I was trimping off. 1093 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 3: That was such a big deal. James Brown, m C 1094 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 3: eight live like m C eight live, so we could 1095 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 3: do the Gangster Chronicles live, record the songs, mix them, 1096 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 3: and then eight here you put this out on blue 1097 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 3: stamp right boom. 1098 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: Now you got m C eight live. Every It's just popping. 1099 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: This is what hook lay the ball up, definitely, And 1100 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 2: you know the cold thing about it, when you do instrumentation, 1101 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about YouTube messing with the 1102 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 2: stuff from them because this sounds just like whole new music, 1103 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 2: so it's new contents. So we could put that up there. 1104 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 2: Can you imagine how many people will come and look 1105 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 2: at that bro like this, and how that's gonna go 1106 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 2: to your credit for your you know your your music 1107 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 2: right and next thing you know, like, damn man, they 1108 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 2: don't got them another plaque off the you put. 1109 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying before, I don't know what 1110 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 3: the fuck we I get why I ain't gonna lie. 1111 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 3: Y'all had it way harder than me. I'm spoiled by 1112 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 3: hip hop. 1113 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: I grew up with it. Y'all didn't grow up with 1114 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: hip hop. Y'all grew up. 1115 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 3: With music and that that's your gift. I grew up 1116 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 3: with the culture them niggas watched the culture, you know 1117 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 3: what I mean, they grew up with the culture, but 1118 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 3: they also still have real musicians. 1119 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: Ship. 1120 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 3: I grew up with y'all. It wasn't no, it wasn't 1121 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 3: no Cameo, It wasn't no James Brown, No My My 1122 00:56:59,080 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 3: Jazz Brown. 1123 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 8: And shit Free exactly, DJ quick my, you know what. 1124 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 8: And I be telling Isa m c E. George Clinton 1125 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,959 Speaker 8: is doctor dre My, Bootsy College is Snoop Dogg. Y'all 1126 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 8: actually had Bootsy Collins. Gee, I'm glads you here. I'll 1127 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,479 Speaker 8: be telling I'll be like, hey, you the whole keep everything, dog. 1128 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 8: I'll be telling them sometimes you the whole keep everything. 1129 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 2: I could do what I could do, dog, but if 1130 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 2: you and the thing he is, it ain't. I had 1131 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 2: to realize he gonna do whatever I asked him to do. 1132 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 2: I just gotta start getting it together and just say, hey, 1133 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 2: here we go the play we run. 1134 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: Because niggas still want to do fly ship. 1135 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 3: Niggas just want to do because at the end of 1136 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 3: the day, look, man, them niggas is all them niggas 1137 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 3: is real deal musicians. They yeah, they cribs and all 1138 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 3: that from around the way, but they like the real deal. 1139 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, cousins, Isaac Hayes to us, well, we 1140 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: know what we're Isaac Hayes, because we got me. 1141 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 4: We respect the work. You get me. 1142 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 5: What it took for us to get off records and 1143 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 5: and just to get in the place to that position 1144 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 5: to be in, uh you know, going on the road, 1145 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 5: whether it was in snowstorms or raining or whatever we 1146 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 5: had to do to promote records. You know, we go 1147 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 5: across the country. You know, we be in studios, uh, 1148 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 5: you know two and three weeks, you know, four weeks 1149 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 5: putting together projects, also having to deal with labels and 1150 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 5: promotional tours and and signing autographs and black and white photos. 1151 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 5: And we we just respected the work, I think a 1152 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 5: little bit differently, and so we are willing, you know, uh, 1153 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 5: you know, we're willing to put in the work still 1154 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 5: because we knew what it took to get to a 1155 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 5: certain status and position. So I think that's why, you know, 1156 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 5: dealing with certain artists from my era, some some are 1157 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 5: even more easier to work with than others. You get me, 1158 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 5: because when you just be straight up in front with 1159 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 5: it and tell a nigga what it is, and it's 1160 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 5: no bullshit. Let's get to it, you know, like I said, 1161 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 5: because we respected to work a little more differently. 1162 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: Well, y'all didn't get into it to be rich. I 1163 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: wasn't even a thought. 1164 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that wasn't my thought when I got into making records. 1165 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 5: I didn't know rich rappers. It was rappers as money 1166 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 5: rich shit. You get me this, and I want the 1167 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 5: fans to hit me up, y'all. Good for dropping me facebooks, 1168 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 5: Facebook messages and all that stuff. Hit me up and 1169 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 5: let me know what y'all think. What if we did something. 1170 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 5: What if we take something for New Years like actually 1171 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 5: did it like whole on Patreon something, or maybe maybe 1172 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 5: just put it out. I mean, maybe it should be 1173 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 5: something that that that that you know, you discuss you 1174 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 5: know off camera. 1175 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and you just do it. You get me. 1176 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 4: That's the one thing that's one thing about us. 1177 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 5: We'll talk about some ship and talk about some ship 1178 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 5: and then what it is is and then we need 1179 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 5: to start, you know, going forth with a lot of 1180 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 5: our ideas instead of procrastinating on it or just talking 1181 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 5: about it. Then you let a million other people hear 1182 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 5: about it. 1183 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 4: You know, some nigga donna beat you to the punch 1184 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 4: because that's why this editing. 1185 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 5: So my thing is with a lot of our you know, 1186 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 5: with a lot of your aspirations, should just need to 1187 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 5: be done instead of, hey man, we should do this, 1188 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 5: and we should do this, and we should do this, 1189 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 5: and then. 1190 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,439 Speaker 4: What if we what if we would if we it's 1191 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 4: too much? What if And it's just like, I need 1192 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 4: to get. 1193 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 5: Off this motherfucking ship, and tonight I need to start 1194 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 5: putting wheels in motion to what I think. Fuck it, 1195 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 5: it's either gonna do or it ain't. And if it's 1196 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 5: something that's gonna be continuous, then you know, ship, your 1197 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 5: your your mama, your daddy had to push you on 1198 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 5: your tricycle before you learn how to ride that motherfucker 1199 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 5: by yourself. So hey, if you gotta fall a couple 1200 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,959 Speaker 5: of times being being but you know eventually the ship 1201 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 5: gonna start doing this, you're getting me. 1202 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 4: Rolling. 1203 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 5: So you just gotta That's what happens with a lot 1204 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 5: of time. With your investments. You gotta, you got, you 1205 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 5: gotta spend a little, and you gotta keep flipping it, 1206 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 5: flipping it till you wake up one day and you 1207 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 5: look up like you said, nigga, when we first start 1208 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 5: serving nigga. You didn't have a gang of customers. You 1209 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 5: had to You had to compete with a gang of 1210 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 5: other niggas and you had to let them know. Nigga, 1211 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck. It might be ten of 1212 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 5: us or whatever out here, but I'm gonna keep out 1213 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 5: here front and center or till a nigga no, I 1214 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 5: got the best, and that's what That's what I'm gonna do. 1215 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 5: You get me until a motherfucker no. Oh, yeah, I'm good. 1216 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 5: Let me go see my nigga right here. 1217 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 4: You get me? So that's. 1218 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 2: All right? Sure, we need to ask you he before 1219 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 2: we go. I don't want to spend no episode talking 1220 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 2: about it. People is really losing their ship over this election. 1221 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 2: Dog be all right, what if they think was gonna happen? 1222 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 2: You honestly think that, you know? And no hate on 1223 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 2: on the sister. You get me, No hate on the sister. 1224 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 2: But come on, man, come on, man, like. 1225 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 5: Whole different times, just win though since win? Come on man, man, 1226 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, Please, people need to understand, like 1227 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 5: the electro can was knock gonna what do you what 1228 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 5: do y'all think it was gonna go? The popular vote 1229 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 5: means shit, it means nothing. You went, you run out there, 1230 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 5: you get that broke out there, and you get your 1231 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 5: little mark and ship and you you whatever whatever, and 1232 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 5: you're thinking like, yeah, we're gonna do something. Them motherfuckers 1233 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 5: who run shit, they the ones they're never They wasn't 1234 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 5: gonna let it happen, man. And you know, and like 1235 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 5: I said, the Sisters was on the little stand up 1236 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 5: and you know, no hate to the Sisters and all 1237 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 5: my black women out there, who but man, come on, man, 1238 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 5: come on. 1239 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 1: I definitely was in tough. 1240 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 3: That was a cold squad because that dude is a 1241 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 3: polarizing motherfucking cracker. 1242 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 4: And and it is what it is. 1243 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 5: You get me, that's what That's what you was left with. 1244 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 5: That's what the country was left with. There was no 1245 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 5: other you get me. There was other Republicans and there 1246 01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 5: were other Democrats, but you get me, that's what me. 1247 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 6: They just kind of pushed her out there too fast. 1248 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 2: It was like they took the old boy out the 1249 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 2: race and they all of a sudden, then we go ahead, 1250 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 2: use hurting on next thing. 1251 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 3: You know. 1252 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, after Joe Biden bowed out, you might as 1253 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 5: well have just let him walk right on in because 1254 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 5: now the confidence of the American people is like, really, like, 1255 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 5: if that was the case, you should have did that 1256 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 5: before we had. 1257 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 3: To choose you. 1258 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 5: Get me, and so we would have been left with 1259 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 5: other people. But now you're gonna like, well we just 1260 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 5: go slide her in. Man, that move wasn't in the work. 1261 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 5: That move was. 1262 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: And that got shot at that man did a lot 1263 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. 1264 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 5: Man, come on, man, you had two assassination crazy up good? 1265 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 3: Did you like right down politicians? 1266 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 4: Man? Please, then let me. 1267 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Ask you this. Then the dude come on on stage 1268 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 2: and one of his relives. But many men playing and 1269 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 2: from any from Jamaica. Queen's doing that. You know what, 1270 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 2: the many men which death upon me, they can pay 1271 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 2: me my money. They can play my ship all night 1272 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 2: if you want to pay me my money. But like 1273 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 2: I said, uh, people shouldn't be up. 1274 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 5: And you know, I guess like I said, for the 1275 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 5: average motherfucker like like you and me, g and steal whatever, 1276 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 5: does it really matter what position is that is gonna happen. 1277 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 5: You get me because tomorrow I'm still doing what I'm doing. Uh, 1278 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 5: my bills are still gonna be the same. The gas 1279 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 5: is still gonna be what it is. Food still gonna 1280 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 5: be what it is, and so you have to look 1281 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 5: at it at the end of the day, what really 1282 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 5: benefits you? As far as you know, political ship goes. 1283 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 5: And I don't like to really deal with a lot 1284 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 5: of political ship because, like I said, for a nigga 1285 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 5: who grew up in content and delive in my life 1286 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 5: on the average, you know, I don't you know, I 1287 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 5: don't deal with the with the situation I was outside 1288 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 5: of the law, like you feel me like I'm I'm 1289 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 5: a regular, out of bed, the jail, out of paid taxes, 1290 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 5: out of digging. Give your police still look at me 1291 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 5: funny when they all by you give me nothing's different 1292 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 5: from me. Even when I pull out of the area 1293 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 5: I live in and it's all beautiful and like what 1294 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,439 Speaker 5: you're doing your ass over here? 1295 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 4: Motherfucker, get to look like what the fuck you doing 1296 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 4: over here? That changes? 1297 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 3: Well. 1298 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 2: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. 1299 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to downloaded I heard that and subscribe to 1300 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 2: the Gainst the Chronicles podcast for Apple users. Find a 1301 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 2: purple micae on the front of your screen, subscribe to 1302 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 2: the show, leave comment and rating. 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