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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and

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Speaker 1: now a guy whose contract says he only gets two

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Speaker 1: series until September. J P. Welcome BNA Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on a Monday. We are Pete Frisco free today. It's

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Speaker 1: a ratings bonanza on this Monday afternoon. J P, Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, and a busy show ahead preseason week one review.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars lost to the Cleveland Browns Saturday night at

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Speaker 1: t I A. Bank Field. We'll hear from senior writer

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Speaker 1: John ozeran studio in about fifteen minutes to recap practice

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Speaker 1: number fourteen of training camp. Today, some pants issues, it

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Speaker 1: sounded like. NFL Films and ESPN producer and analyst Greg Cosell.

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Speaker 1: We'll join us at five o'clock and talk quarterback play

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and a few other rookie debuts in preseason

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Speaker 1: week one around the NFL. Social media questions are rolling

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Speaker 1: in today without Pete here, and we'll go around the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Tony, good afternoon, Good afternoon. Who are

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Speaker 1: you texting right now? What is going on? We're doing

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Speaker 1: a radio show Tony. Uh, what is going on? I'm

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Speaker 1: texting our good friend Jeff Wagman. Okay, well that's no,

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Speaker 1: it's really not Sorry, sorry, welcome, welcome to radio here.

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Speaker 1: We are, well listen with no Pete I whoever? I want?

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Speaker 1: I guess so, yeah, Pezze in Minnesota, by the way,

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Speaker 1: covering the vikings today. Poor excuse for first preseason games.

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Speaker 1: The CBS sent an entire television set table like we

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Speaker 1: have here in studio, and like what an anchor and

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Speaker 1: another guy and him and they're doing him live from camp.

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Speaker 1: They didn't do that here. I mean, what are we

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Speaker 1: doing Pete? Does anyone really want to see Pete on TV? No?

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Speaker 1: I mean I agree with you. That's what's happening. Though. Um,

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Speaker 1: how you feeling after Saturday night about the Jaguars squad

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Speaker 1: in Tony? You know, not much different than I did before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the first preseason game. What I mean,

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Speaker 1: typical overreaction. It would have happened the other way too,

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Speaker 1: if they come out and lit it up. Here we go,

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Speaker 1: book tickets in l A. We're going to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and now they had a bad game and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: come on, it's somewhere between. Um. The panic button here

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Speaker 1: is that every everybody has their hand on it at

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Speaker 1: this time every single year anyway, it's ready to click it.

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Speaker 1: The part of that is because it's been this team

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Speaker 1: has struggled for a long time outside seen so you

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Speaker 1: you have a hard time of having being optimistic and

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Speaker 1: you want to see results. But it's the first preseason game.

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Speaker 1: You can't overreact. Um, was it good? No, it wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: Definitely positive thing though, but it was it where you

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Speaker 1: wanted to be, not guarantee. Herban was frustrated. Probably sounded

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Speaker 1: like you have your first to day, you have your

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Speaker 1: not being you're not being productive. Forgot the wins or

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Speaker 1: losses of the overall game. I'm just looking at that

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Speaker 1: first quarter, quarter and a half. You get your starters

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Speaker 1: out there, you're not productive. Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence on

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Speaker 1: his backside play one, Yeah, I mean that's frustrating. Um. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: field kicking field goal, frustrating is it panic time? No.

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Speaker 1: But you know the first thing that came to mind

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Speaker 1: after that game when I woke up Sunday morning. You

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Speaker 1: ever see Smoking in the Bandit? The original? Y have

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Speaker 1: a long way to go in a short time to

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Speaker 1: get there? The snowman that the snowman was, wasn't that

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Speaker 1: the the guy driving the the big ragg to go

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Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds, Sally Fields great one of the number first

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Speaker 1: But that's my whole point was a long way to go,

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Speaker 1: but a short time to get there. Because this team

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Speaker 1: has a long way to go. We all knew that

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Speaker 1: they won one game last year JP well losing skid

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Speaker 1: right now, you don't fix it overnight, and and you know,

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Speaker 1: are they going to be better against Houston? And we

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Speaker 1: from Urban Meyer. He spoke before practice today. You know

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Speaker 1: tell me, explain to me why you know so paranoia

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Speaker 1: Paranoia was the second question there, Tony, Why Tony why?

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Speaker 1: First of all, me and Herb, I'm aligned with you.

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Speaker 1: There's no secrets. It's football, and maybe there's nuances here there,

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Speaker 1: He's the guy in offensive weapon. They didn't show any

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Speaker 1: That's Urban's point too, is that I'd love to see

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Speaker 1: the first preseason game. Tom Brady, you think he needs reps? JP?

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Speaker 1: you a question? JP? And Joe chime in here. Joe's

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Speaker 1: But I don't need a preseason. I don't need practice.

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Speaker 1: And so this whole thing of resting guys and not

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Speaker 1: I felt like a guy who was not going to

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Speaker 1: have narrowly the role here he did last year. Felt

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Speaker 1: like Damien Wilson was going to start in base and

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Speaker 1: then Miles Jack was their best nickel backer. H And

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Speaker 1: Urban kind of went away from this when he was

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Speaker 1: asked on Saturday, but he just feel like it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a scheme fit. And when the rest of the league

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Speaker 1: knows you're trying to get rid of a guy, it's

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Speaker 1: howrd to get a lot of value. Okay, So John,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, because I have the

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Speaker 1: philosophy that if you're gonna get rid of a player,

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Speaker 1: whether trade them or cut them, but that you have

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Speaker 1: somebody on their rosters who you can replace him with,

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Speaker 1: it's better that you get better, especially in the trade,

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Speaker 1: or you get some future compensation that makes you better.

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Speaker 1: They believe that the combination of Wilson and Quarterman, we'll

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Speaker 1: do that. That's they're thinking your thoughts where if you're

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Speaker 1: looking at the linebacking cores. For my opinion, I would

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Speaker 1: have said Schobert was your third best linebacker, especially in nickel.

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Speaker 1: But if he doesn't fit what you do, okay, but

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Speaker 1: Nicol he does fit. But are you paying them all

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Speaker 1: that money for one down? Down? It's not one down

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Speaker 1: your defense is Nicol? On top of that, you're paying

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Speaker 1: his guaranteed money still and by the way, you got

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Speaker 1: a six rounder. That's it, And so long term, I

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Speaker 1: get that he is not the thumper that you need

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Speaker 1: at mic linebacker in the sky, but the majority of

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Speaker 1: football today has played in third down and sub personnel.

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Speaker 1: And my question is if Joe Schobert is your third

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Speaker 1: best linebacker and maybe your second best nickel linebacker, and

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Speaker 1: maybe he's not, maybe they don't view him that is,

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Speaker 1: did you get better? And are you better off replacing

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Speaker 1: him with whoever? I mean, who who's gonna play? Who's

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Speaker 1: your number one nickel is a Damian Wilson? Or how

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Speaker 1: about this, they could play a little dime and bring

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Speaker 1: it a safety down closer to what I mean. I get.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I view you saved here is you

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Speaker 1: cleaned up your cap a year earlier because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: take your major cap hit this year and spread it out,

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Speaker 1: but you're still paying the guaranteed money. It's not like

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Speaker 1: you have cap pressure this year. Anyways. They didn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: He even at their coverage scheme the way that they

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Speaker 1: wanted it too. So I tend to agree with you.

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Speaker 1: You're giving away who a guy who has proven in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and you're paying him guaranteed money. I didn't

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Speaker 1: quite get it, but I think that's their approach, and

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it if you five, if you have,

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to free up. And here's what I

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they love one of these younger guys

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Speaker 1: that Joe Schobert, while better today, was gonna take reps

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Speaker 1: from them. They would open the door up to one

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Speaker 1: of these younger guys. That's what I don't know. Quarman,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know that he's better than Schobert in

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Speaker 1: nickel situation. Yeah that I'm talking to Nickel first, Like listen,

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Speaker 1: Joe Cholbert does not fit the system in first and

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Speaker 1: second down. He's not a thumper. You need a thumper

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna play three for he's not physical enough.

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Speaker 1: I agree with Trent or Urban or Joe Cole and

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Speaker 1: whoever made this isn't I'm a d percent on board there.

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Speaker 1: From a cover standpoint, I get that you want to

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Speaker 1: move on and paying him that much money probably don't

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Speaker 1: make sense, but you've already it's a sunk cost and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pay a portion of his guaranteed money anyways.

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Speaker 1: And so unless he wasn't going to play as much

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Speaker 1: as Nickel as we thought, and then I guess the

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Speaker 1: trade tells me that's the case. I don't know that's

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Speaker 1: the case, and that and and so that's the one

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Speaker 1: thing I just don't know. Maybe there's just guys on

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Speaker 1: this roster that are younger that they want reps for.

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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, and if you're Trent in Urban,

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Speaker 1: well it might not make sense in the immediate Do

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Speaker 1: you have a long term view? I can buy that. John.

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Speaker 1: We're on the practice field today standing next to each other.

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Speaker 1: When Trevor Lawrence was in red zone seven on seven

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Speaker 1: work carving up defenses again and we've seen that a

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Speaker 1: lot in the practice field. What did you make of

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Speaker 1: his performance the other night Saturday night? Was fifteen plays?

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Speaker 1: Was big third down throws, stand out um, pretty start

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Speaker 1: two things. There's still a lot of work to do

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Speaker 1: for him though. Well. The ability the other night to

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Speaker 1: recover and come from being behind and down on distance

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Speaker 1: early and still getting the first down. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was impressive and encouraging. And I you guys have seen

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Speaker 1: it every practice. Uh, with a couple of exceptions, there

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Speaker 1: has been a play or a stretch of plays where

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Speaker 1: you walked away sort of nodding and going, okay, that's

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Speaker 1: what it is today. It was in the red zone

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Speaker 1: right before that red zone really had a really nice

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Speaker 1: past to Pharaoh Cooper in seven on seven I believe.

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Speaker 1: And then three or four consecutive plays in the red

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Speaker 1: zone where he's got the zip on the ball and

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Speaker 1: he's got the touch and he he throws it in

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Speaker 1: the right way to get it there, meaning he doesn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily have to put a lot of air on it

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Speaker 1: to get into the corner of the end zone. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He can throw it with zip, he can throw he's

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Speaker 1: got a natural feel for how to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: down there, and he's got the arm talent to do it.

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Speaker 1: And I an Tony, you've seen it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I was around Peyton, you worked for the Colts. You

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Speaker 1: saw Peyton unbelievable, uh mental approach the game. He had

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Speaker 1: the physical ability to do it, but he didn't have

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Speaker 1: the physical ability, the arm, the natural unt of this guy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, time will tell if he can, if Trevor

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Speaker 1: has that mental capacity for the game. But I've never

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Speaker 1: apologies to our boy Marker. Now, I've never been around

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that has this sort of physical tools. No,

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Speaker 1: it's special, and he doesn't have to get to uh

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Speaker 1: Manning mental capacity because I don't think anyone else is

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Speaker 1: in the historic game, right, I mean, what makes Manning

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Speaker 1: But in that rain, Roger's Brady Manning, but one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest ever he number one. I think he was

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Speaker 1: took it to a whole level. First of how he

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Speaker 1: did it, and he was unbelievable and Brady and Rogers

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Speaker 1: meant Breeze is another one. But I mean just the

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Speaker 1: knowledge of the game and the approach and what Manning

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Speaker 1: did a high bar. But you're right about Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: as a skill set that Manning never had. And that's

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Speaker 1: the athletic ability number one. Just feet run. No one's

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Speaker 1: gonna worry about Peyton Manning running away from you. And

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Speaker 1: there are throws he makes that are just different. He

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Speaker 1: has he has this, he has a he has a

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Speaker 1: arm that will remind you of the always, the Rogers,

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Speaker 1: the Farbs. Um, we think it's he has the accuracy

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Speaker 1: to we got to see that over probably a larger

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Speaker 1: ask you because you were a big Lay fan. Aren't

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Speaker 1: the same as always always? Yeah? Yeah, that's hard because

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Speaker 1: I was a kid when I watched it, so like

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Speaker 1: he was your remember when you're a kid. But he,

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Speaker 1: Trevor reminds me. I don't think he's as thick as

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Speaker 1: Elway was big, but he but he's John was like

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Speaker 1: the first like super athletic guy who played the position

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Speaker 1: that way and anikor throw in an era where no

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Speaker 1: one wanted you to leave the pocket. Um, Trevor has

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Speaker 1: that type of same athletic a Bill be as as

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Speaker 1: John Elway, I mean different. You know, it's hard to compare.

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Speaker 1: But the question I think, the next thing I want

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Speaker 1: to see, which I think we've seen in practice, is

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Speaker 1: he consistently accurate. Because what makes all those guys great,

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Speaker 1: the Rogers, the Bradies, the Mannings, the Breeze, is they're

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Speaker 1: deadly accurate. They can put the ball where it needs

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Speaker 1: to be has sort of done it, and we saw

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Speaker 1: it on the throw to Marvin Jones Jr. When he

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Speaker 1: doesn't look open really, but he throws it high in

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Speaker 1: a place where he almost throws him open um. And

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Speaker 1: that's a necessarily even with the time he had, that

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Speaker 1: is difficult. You have to see it and you have

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Speaker 1: to react. Everyone wants to practice, that's right. At least

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Speaker 1: are you gonna say because I I want to bring

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Speaker 1: up a topic that haven't practice today? Are you gonna

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Speaker 1: stay one more if you want me to? But yeah,

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Speaker 1: i'd like you to your names on the wall. We're

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Speaker 1: we'll hear more from John Osier when we come back.

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Speaker 1: effort plus two mentality we're talking about just take a

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Speaker 1: look at the tape, you know. The one thing we

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Speaker 1: made some mistakes, but we were physical, okay, and we

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Speaker 1: had you look at the tackles. Seven eight guys on

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Speaker 1: the ball. Every time the run went to the sideline,

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Speaker 1: the one miles there, shoot the next one to the sideline.

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Speaker 1: We had seven eight black and tail jerseys there and

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Speaker 1: that was great. Some of the things I'd like to

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Speaker 1: improve on. You know, obviously right before the half, winning

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Speaker 1: that two minute drill, we go in, we win that drill,

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Speaker 1: we get the ball coming back. Now we get out

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Speaker 1: and score. We're winning the game right there. So those

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Speaker 1: are some things. Tackling was pretty good. We had a

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Speaker 1: couple of miss tackles. On one one play there they

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Speaker 1: had a swing route that corner missed it not leverage,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part the physicality really liked in

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Speaker 1: the effort. Joe Cullen, Jaguars defensive coordinator. Hear that voice,

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Speaker 1: you know instantly who it is, Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy

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Speaker 1: r JP, Adrick, Tony Boselli, Pete brisco is not here.

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Speaker 1: He is in Minnesota covering cares where he is. No

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Speaker 1: one is John Osiers here. Though a rating spike you

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Speaker 1: know he touched on it there. Joe calling the physicality

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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars defense on Saturday night, presented that, Um,

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Speaker 1: what about today's practice John, They were out there in

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Speaker 1: full pads today. It felt like there was a little

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Speaker 1: urgency after we heard Urban talk this morning about some

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Speaker 1: of those things we've discussed already, the tempo and things

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Speaker 1: like that. What was it. I don't think they were.

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Speaker 1: They weren't, you know, doing Oklahoma drills or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: but are almost against the law they are, I think,

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Speaker 1: But what would you think of practice today and all that?

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Speaker 1: It was more physical than your you know, normal two

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Speaker 1: days after a game. At the same time, they're still

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Speaker 1: in camp mode until I guess at the end of

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Speaker 1: this week, so it's not entirely usual them to be hitting.

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Speaker 1: I don't overplay it, but uh, it was. At first,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure because they had the installation period maybe

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Speaker 1: seven periods in and I was sort of used to

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Speaker 1: some more live stuff in period six or seven, whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. But as time went on, it felt like

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Speaker 1: a training camp practice. I was it a punishment practice.

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Speaker 1: I can't get that field. But they hit I mean,

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Speaker 1: which in it's the game and age that's the game

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Speaker 1: of football. You're supposed to hit well, but in this

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Speaker 1: day and age, you don't always get that much done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it was back in the

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Speaker 1: seventies when you play bleather helmets. UM. Well, first, I

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00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: think Joe was right. I thought the defense was physical, um,

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Speaker 1: especially against the run, and I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: better against the run. As far as Stags practice, I

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00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: wasn't out there another engagement, um, but I did hear

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Speaker 1: um through Twitter and talking to people that the offensive

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Speaker 1: line did gas ers afterwards? Was there some like punishment

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Speaker 1: that they knew something wrong? Um? That I don't know

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Speaker 1: was that did? They were running? They ran afterward, but

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Speaker 1: they were the only group right. Yes, And and my

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Speaker 1: my experience as officivelignment, anytime we had to run after practice,

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Speaker 1: it was due to poor play penalties. May be a

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Speaker 1: fight that I started. Didn't Doug run the whole team

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Speaker 1: in the past, like at the end of the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that was that was the first training camp that

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Speaker 1: kind of like and then we won and they kind

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Speaker 1: of went away. Yeah, I mean there was, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: certainly running any other any practice, I've never seen. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen one group one group run. I mean no,

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Speaker 1: I've been in my history of playing football, I've been

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Speaker 1: a part of the one group that's running. And the

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Speaker 1: reason yeah, there was usually we did something poorly. Um,

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Speaker 1: I was just curious, no sense of why that happened. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was at very talent of practice. And Urban did

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Speaker 1: not talk after and and Joe Colin talked and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't coach offensive. They're assumptions made. I don't follow at

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Speaker 1: a p mark long for the assumptions he mark, Well,

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Speaker 1: I know there was something with pads or pants or

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Speaker 1: some it was like pants gate. It was not pants skate.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I didn't see any of that happen

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Speaker 1: with my own two eyes. So that's why I don't

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Speaker 1: know either. But I just thought it was interesting. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I only bring it up because the pants gate.

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Speaker 1: It might be it might be a thing hashtag pants gate,

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Speaker 1: but that out there I would see by what's that

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Speaker 1: trend on trend? Because I only bring it up because

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Speaker 1: after the game. And again, if you follow Twitter, sports

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Speaker 1: talk radio, all everything reporting after the game, if you'd asked,

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Speaker 1: tell me that the unit that most underperformed, everybody was

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Speaker 1: all over the old line, killing the offensive line. Now,

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Speaker 1: what was you're the ex lineman. I thought in several

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Speaker 1: cases Trevor clearly held the ball too much, which led

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Speaker 1: to Lesta one of the first half sacks. And then

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Speaker 1: going back and watching yesterday, I thought there were a

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Speaker 1: lot more plays where that they played okay, then disastrous,

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Speaker 1: But your judge on your disastrous overall? What do you

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Speaker 1: think well as an offensive line? And unfortunately, all anyone

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Speaker 1: remembers is the bad place. That's all remembers. And let

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Speaker 1: you know, so just get used to it. It's part

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Speaker 1: of life. Um, you know A j kN gave him

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Speaker 1: an early sack after that, I thought he played good.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was the first play the game. It's

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Speaker 1: preseason stuff happens. But I thought he was really physical

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Speaker 1: and he had a great year last year. I thought

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Speaker 1: Linda was fine, typical Linder. I think Bart has always

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Speaker 1: go still. I still think his fee are an issue.

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Speaker 1: He gets the guys get on the edge a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Is he better better? Yes, and improving to the point

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Speaker 1: where he can be the swing guy. Well he won't be.

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Speaker 1: He's not. He's not as good Shall at this point.

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Speaker 1: I would put Shatley in first, but he's training in

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Speaker 1: the right direction. I mean, you can see he's working.

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Speaker 1: It's a project. I mean, there was about it. Um

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Speaker 1: I thought the right tackle was just okay best. I

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00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: think Jowan Taylor guys get on the edge too much.

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Speaker 1: It's just too close and in the in the pockets,

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Speaker 1: get squeezed and even make the quarterback uncomfortable. Um I

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Speaker 1: thought Cam was fine, but he was. I mean, don't

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Speaker 1: forget these were the backups too. It's not like Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett was out there, or like there was a bunch

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Speaker 1: of backups. Now you were blocking some guys that might

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00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: even be on the team. And so, um I thought

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00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: Cam was fine. Nothing. But you know, now the story

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Speaker 1: of camp has been Walker Little. Uh Urban mentioned a

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Speaker 1: JP was out there. Did he thought he struggled a

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Speaker 1: little bit with his hands? I thought and terrible. I

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00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: thought they were awful. I think walking by the way,

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Speaker 1: I think i've said here. I think Walker Little will

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Speaker 1: be a good player. I think he has the potential

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Speaker 1: to be a great player. I think it will be

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Speaker 1: a good player. I think we have to be careful

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Speaker 1: of anointing guys after a couple of practices and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the media around this place. You know,

767
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Speaker 1: in this city. I mean he started tweeting out that

768
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: he's like the you know, some brick wall that's just

769
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Speaker 1: dominating people. And the practice obviously, and he's been good,

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Speaker 1: and Urban has been effusive in his praise. And he's

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Speaker 1: a young player who's getting better. And he hasn't played

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Speaker 1: a lot of football. He's been out because of you know,

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Speaker 1: COVID and injuries, um, and everything I love about him.

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Speaker 1: He has naturally he's big, he's powerful. He's a naturally

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Speaker 1: big person. He's not like trying to be big. He's

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Speaker 1: just big. He's athletic, good feet, Um, he's powerful. I

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Speaker 1: thought he ran blocked very well last night, I mean

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Speaker 1: two nights ago. I thought he's just physical pass walking,

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Speaker 1: his feet were good. I think he needs to work

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Speaker 1: on his sets. He sets himself up. He makes it

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Speaker 1: harder on himself than he needs to. When you have

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Speaker 1: a three step drop and you're dropping deep, go get

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Speaker 1: the guy, go be physical. Um. And I just think

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Speaker 1: his hands are awful. I mean, he just he's not.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like at looks like he doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: to do with his hands. And they're just low and

787
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: they're late, and he just and here's the great thing something.

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Speaker 1: But the great thing about it is and so I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to because I'm a believer. I think he

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Speaker 1: has the pencil. I think he has opportunity be good.

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00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: I think if I'm a betting man, I would bet

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Speaker 1: money Walker Little is a starting left tackle for ten years,

793
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Speaker 1: is a good player. If I get the right odds,

794
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: I'll bet money that he's a great player because he

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00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: has that ability. And one of the things, even as

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Speaker 1: bad as his hands were, like guys would just run

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Speaker 1: into him and like I wouldn't get there because he's

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00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: just big and he's powerful and like so, which is good.

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Speaker 1: It didn't have to be perfect for him to block

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Speaker 1: the guy. Now again, he might be blocking the guy

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Speaker 1: who's an accountant in two weeks now. Hands are everything.

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00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of defensive linemen over the years.

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Speaker 1: He tell me on their side, hands take time to

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Speaker 1: develop the fundamentals you need. Same true in the offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is this a long term thing? It takes

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00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: a long time to learn. No, I mean, gad, it's

807
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: not gonna be perfect this year, but you know that

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00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking about just like get him out defensive lines.

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Speaker 1: Hands they just I mean in front of you, and

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Speaker 1: I actually so for offensive line play, the most important

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Speaker 1: thing is feet. You. I say all the time, you

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Speaker 1: block people with your feet if you're trying to block

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Speaker 1: people with your hands, or because you start reaching and

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00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: leaning and everything else. It's all about body position and feet.

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Speaker 1: So block people with your feet. He has those feet.

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Speaker 1: I think he can clean some of it up, thinking

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Speaker 1: help himself out with some of the sets, all stuff

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Speaker 1: that if you don't have that, you're never great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's just those are things you figure out.

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Speaker 1: The hands is where you you have to have heavy,

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Speaker 1: strong hands is where you create your separation and create

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Speaker 1: space and give yourself a chance to win. Um. And

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Speaker 1: that's just you know, he's not He's got work to do.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. He's a rookie. He's a rookie like

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Speaker 1: me saying he had awful hands. It's not like I

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Speaker 1: have the highest respect lines headlines, specially crushes walk a little.

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Speaker 1: I have high streets back for him. I could argue

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Speaker 1: he's your second best taco. Right now. There you go.

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Speaker 1: We'll end with that, John, thanks for jumping on today

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Speaker 1: with us. We probably on the wall. I've heard of it.

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Speaker 1: We'll look forward to your riding coming up this week

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Speaker 1: That a lot of this, and Urban has been pretty

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Speaker 1: Zone team. The match us pretty well. But now, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel like first time out there, I felt comfortable,

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: felt poised. Obviously, the first play is not kind of

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Speaker 1: what you want for the first play, but after that,

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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought we did a good job. We

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Speaker 1: communicated well up front, they did a really good job

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Speaker 1: with protection. Uh at least one of those sackses on

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Speaker 1: me for sure, just holding the ball too long, So

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Speaker 1: that's something I'll work on. And just maneuvering in the pocket.

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01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: It's something I've always, you know, always gotta work on.

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Speaker 1: So other than that, I missed miss an easy one

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Speaker 1: um to Marvin, a little quick out that I wish

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Speaker 1: I would have hit. But other than that, I felt

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01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: I felt good out there. I thought we were seeing

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01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: it all on the same page. And there's all obviously

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01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: things to clean up. But I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: pretty good day. REVERERT. Lawrence after Saturday night's preseason opener,

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Speaker 1: his debut in the preseason of his rookie campaign. Welcome in.

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Speaker 1: It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shaddrick,

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01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco is out this week. Can be

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Speaker 1: back with us in a couple of weeks. Yes, Tony,

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Speaker 1: you're raising me. Tell you what, Trevor Lawrence, smart man,

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: smart man, you want to win over your offensive alignment.

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01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: Take the put the stack on. It was on me.

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: I held, I held it too long. They did a

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: great job. Kudos you guys were perfect. Mr Lawrence. That

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01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,959
Speaker 1: that is gonna get you brownie points in the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: That and get a good gift at Christmas. You'll be

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01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: set that plenty dinner everyone, while Flinty ahead on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour, including your social questions coming up. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to our good friend Greg Cosell. He is with the

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Speaker 1: NFL Film Senior producer NFL Matchup on ESPN, the executive

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Speaker 1: producer and analyst there and Greg, thanks for coming on

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: with us today on Jaguars Happy Hour. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you and talk to you, and you know we're gonna

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01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: go through some quarterbacks around the league. But Jacksonville folks

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01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: finally got a chance to see the long blonde locks

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01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence wearing teal, which is always fun. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, guys, it's great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna start off by asking Tony a question. So, Tony,

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: coaches coach, do they coach for guys to be just okay,

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Speaker 1: our average or to do it the right way all

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Speaker 1: the time. Well, yeah, I mean, Greg, you know as

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01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: well as I do. The good coaches demand the best,

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01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: and I agree with you we were talking off the air.

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01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: The coach's job is to get the most out of

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01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: the player is and you do that two ways. You

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01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: put them in the best possible position to have success.

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01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: In number two, you ask them to do perform at

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01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: the level you believe they can achieve, not where they are,

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01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: not where it's comfortable. You take them to a level

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01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: where it's uncomfortable, and you ask them to reach there.

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Speaker 1: And any player worth their salt, we'll tell you that's

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Speaker 1: what they want. It's it's not always pleasant, it's not fun,

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01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: especially depending on the personality of the coaches. You know,

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01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: aren't as nice as others, but that's what you want.

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: That's what coaching is about. Well, it's funny you say that,

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01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: because I was really fortunate in my career to learn

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01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback position from Bill Walsh, and the way he

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01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: taught it was that you do it the right way

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01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: every single time. So when I watch a quarterback, that's

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01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: the way I think about it. I don't And obviously

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01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: it's the first performance, but that's that should not be

1113
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: totally relevant because it's being coached, it's being taught, and

1114
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: you want to go out there and you want to

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: see not only the quarterback everybody. But obviously we're gonna

1116
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Speaker 1: talk quarterbacks and Trevor Lawrence. Um, you want to see

1117
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: it done right all the time. So if you'd like

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01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: to do that, I certainly could. Yeah, and so great,

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01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. I mean, as you look at

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I mean, obviously, I know you watch a

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01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: lot of film, you know, of these guys in college

1122
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: leading up to the NFL draft, and you watch a

1123
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: ton of pro games and break that down with your responsibilities.

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01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: Give us a breakdown of what you saw and and

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01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: doing a lot of what you were expecting. We know

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01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: it's the first preseason game, but as you said, do

1127
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: you know you gotta do it right all the time

1128
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: if you want to be great. Yeah. I thought where

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01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: he was really good was there were some spot throws

1130
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: to the outside. He hit Um Jones, I think for

1131
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: ten yards on third and nine. I think that was

1132
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: the first series it was. It was a ten yard

1133
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: out that was a spot throw. That's more of an

1134
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: execution throw than a read throw. Um. He also hit

1135
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: a spot throw another time in the game. I think

1136
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Speaker 1: probably say only what played two series? Was it? Yes,

1137
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: I think you're probably thinking on these, uh, the the

1138
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: one the man hurts on the on the sit route

1139
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: just um, Yeah, there were, Um, there were two spot

1140
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: throws that they he showed a strong sense of timing

1141
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: because those are throws. I remember work, you know, with

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01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: Ron Jaworski for years and years, one of my best friends,

1143
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: and he would tell me that there were certain throws

1144
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: that based on the timing of the drop and and

1145
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: the throw, that he could throw blindfolded because their spot throws,

1146
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: their timing throws. And I thought Lawrence, for a rookie quarterback,

1147
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: really did a good job with those. That was that

1148
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: was a real positive Um he talked about and I

1149
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: know what you said, Tony about the old line. The

1150
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: first sack was on Lawrence the first play of the game.

1151
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 1: He was slow to eliminate and isolate Um. The read

1152
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: was to the left side. He stayed focused on slot

1153
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: receiver Jones far too long. He had channel open on

1154
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: the inbreaker to the read side. The Browns were had

1155
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 1: a five man rush. They played cover one. The throw

1156
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: should have been to Chenault. He just stayed on Jones

1157
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: too long. First play, probably to be expected, but again

1158
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: something now to teach and to work on. Great cous

1159
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: with us from NFL films at ESPN's NFL matchup. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback having that to that clock in

1161
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: your head of you know when to get rid of

1162
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: this thing, not to hold it too long. How much

1163
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: how long does that take for a quarterback to figure

1164
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: that out? Greg, Well, there's reasons jp y quarterbacks hold

1165
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: it too long. Sometimes it's truly because the coverage winds.

1166
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: For instance, the second sack came on a shot play

1167
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: out of twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends. It

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01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: was conventional play action with Lawrence under center. It was

1169
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: mirrored crosses by Jones and Johnson. It was seven man

1170
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: pass bro which tells you what your shot play. They're

1171
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: looking to get him on a deep drop. They want

1172
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field and a t

1173
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Speaker 1: N released late into the flat. The Browns took it

1174
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: away with cover three. There was no throw to be made. Now,

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01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: could you sit here and say you could throw it

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,479
Speaker 1: into the flat maybe, but there was truly no throw

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Speaker 1: to be made. Um another play that I think is

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Speaker 1: something you really want to work on. And by the way,

1179
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Speaker 1: this is very common with the young quarterbacks. It was

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Speaker 1: the third it in four play that ended the first

1181
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: possession where he threw it to a Chinault on the

1182
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: slot out route. Uh and it was incomplete obviously because

1183
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: they punted. He drifted into the pressure. He drifted instead

1184
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: of staying on the mid line and giving himself an

1185
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to make a clean throw, Trevor drifted to his

1186
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: left right behind. I guess it was Cam Robinson, the

1187
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: left tackle, and he created his own pressure, so he

1188
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: made it a more difficult throw than it was. Now.

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01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: Antonio will understand this because someone will probably say Cam

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: Johnson didn't do a good job. But Trevor drifted into him,

1191
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: and it made it tougher for for Cam Robinson and

1192
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: to make the block. Yeah, Camp, it wasn't Camp's fault.

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, Greg. There was a little bit of

1194
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: a soft pocket by Juwan Taylor on the right side,

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: and so in Trevor felt that and started drifting back

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01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: backwards into the left. If he would have stepped up

1197
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: and took it about two shovels to the left, there's

1198
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: there's space there where he could have sat there for

1199
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Speaker 1: an extra click and then be able to throw the

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01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: ball with his feet set. And that's what and those

1201
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: are things, And he even mentioned it, I gotta be

1202
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: better in the pocket. And that's what you see young

1203
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks do all the time. They go backwards instead of forwards. Heck,

1204
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: Patrick Homes still does it, but he has such a

1205
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: special arm he gets away with it. Somehow he backs

1206
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: up the fifty yards and just throws it up. I

1207
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: have no idea how he gets away with it. Not

1208
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: a offensive tackles nightmare, um, But the ones who are

1209
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: consistently great or they move forward, they climbed the pocket.

1210
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: You make a great point, because don't forget too Lawrence

1211
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: was not under pressure very often in college. Um, he

1212
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: might have been under what I consider pressure. Everybody has

1213
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: their different sense of pressure, but I think of pressure

1214
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: in terms of the NFL. And I know Tony you

1215
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: would agree with this, you know, Uh, he wasn't really

1216
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: under pressure more than thirty five or forty past attempts

1217
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: at Clemson this past year. True pressure. So he has

1218
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 1: to get used to working out of a noisy, muddied

1219
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: pocket where there are people around him, but that's not

1220
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: really pressure by NFL standards. And you make a great point.

1221
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: The the response to that, if you're not used to

1222
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: it is to drift either sideways or backwards, and you

1223
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: cannot drift backwards in the NFL. You mentioned Mahomes. You know,

1224
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: you have to put that aside. He's just a different

1225
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: cat and he can make these throws that a lot

1226
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 1: of people can, but you cannot move backwards versus pressure

1227
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Greg, you know you it's a great

1228
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: point and interesting, And you talked about the first play

1229
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: that was the sack fumble and that you know he

1230
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: held it a little bit long, stayed on. Marvin Jones Jr.

1231
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: Should have got the channault. But you know, the positive

1232
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: for me on that play. Was he stood there tall

1233
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Now he followed it, but he stood there,

1234
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: He wasn't getting nervous as it got crowded in there,

1235
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: and he was still looking down the field. He just

1236
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: didn't find the right person and didn't get off. But

1237
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: at least and you've seen this, and this is always

1238
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: worries me, is in that situation, eyes go down, you

1239
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: start getting happy feet, you're looking for an exit, and

1240
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: he didn't. I actually did like the sack fumble. As

1241
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman wouldn't liked it, but I appreciate in

1242
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: the evaluation, here's the guy standing tall and is not

1243
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: getting nervous when everything's collapsing. Yeah, And I think that's

1244
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: a really good point because a lot of young quarterbacks

1245
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: and and and let's think of it this way, Well,

1246
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has mobility and as a plus athlete for

1247
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: a man that size. When all said and done, guys,

1248
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: he's going to make his bones in this league as

1249
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: a pocket player. Yes, does he have the ability to

1250
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 1: get outside. Can you run some design run game stuff

1251
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: with him? You can, But he's ultimately going to be

1252
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback. And I think that's a great point.

1253
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: Instead of just immediately cleaning the pocket, which is a

1254
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: hard thing to teach a guy to stay in the

1255
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: pocket if he doesn't have that natural trait to begin with,

1256
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: that's a hard thing to teach. And Tony, you're right,

1257
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 1: he didn't look to leave the pocket at any point

1258
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,440
Speaker 1: in this game. Great coat. So with us from NFL films,

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Speaker 1: ESPNS NFL matchup as well. Uh, just going back to

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Speaker 1: the college shape, Greg, I know you dug deep on

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Speaker 1: this on all these quarterback prospects. How does his accuracy,

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Speaker 1: arms strength, ability to push it down the field compared

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Speaker 1: to some of the maybe the old time guys in

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Speaker 1: those departments. Is he right up there near the top

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Speaker 1: at least as a prospect. Well, let's j p. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a step back from it here. I know that

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Speaker 1: Trevor came out with this idea that he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: an all time or his start. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: he's a talented kid. He's a big kid. There's no

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Speaker 1: problem with his arm strength. That does he have an

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Speaker 1: absolute gun I wouldn't say as a gun, but there's

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Speaker 1: no problem with his arm strength. I think one thing

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Speaker 1: that stood out and you didn't see it very often,

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Speaker 1: but you asked me, you know, if he has any

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Speaker 1: things that were concerning and it showed up two years

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Speaker 1: ago in playoff games and even this year in a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. Is he's a little bit of a strider

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Speaker 1: when he throws his He's a body thrower and he

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Speaker 1: steps into his throws. So the one thing that you

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Speaker 1: want to see is how he handles himself. And there's

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Speaker 1: pressure up the middle in his face, because like I said,

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Speaker 1: he's a step thrower, and at times in college that

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Speaker 1: there were times that he struggled a bit. He'd hurry

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Speaker 1: his mechanics and he would become a little scatter shot high.

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Speaker 1: So again, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you

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Speaker 1: that's a weakness and he can't play. But that's just

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Speaker 1: something that I think you need to be aware of,

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Speaker 1: and that's based purely on tape study. Gret go Sell

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Speaker 1: with us. How about a few other debuts this week?

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Speaker 1: In preseason Week one, Josh Fields had a day for

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Speaker 1: the Bears. Trey Lance had a long past play, but

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Speaker 1: he was five or fourteen. Zack Wilson got out there

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Speaker 1: for the Jets. Mac Jones was fairly efficient for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Which of those guys you think will have the most

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Speaker 1: impact right away. Greg, Well, we know Zack Wilson's gonna start,

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Speaker 1: so I don't think there's a question there. My guess

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Speaker 1: is in an offense that does fit what he brings

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Speaker 1: to the table. It's really the forty Niners offense because

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Speaker 1: bringing the Kyle Shanahan offense, which features a lot of

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Speaker 1: designed movement, and you can see that Wilson is comfortable

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Speaker 1: with play action boot He's an easy thrower on the move,

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Speaker 1: He's got light feet. Um, I think that this style

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Speaker 1: of offense fits him well. So obviously there's other factors

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Speaker 1: as to whether a quarterback succeeds or doesn't succeed, But

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Speaker 1: I think that stylistically and and structurally the offense that

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Speaker 1: he's in with the Jets fits him. If you look

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Speaker 1: at all the guys, Greg, last question for me that

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Speaker 1: all of them be starters in the NFL? UM? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Justin Fields will be sooner than later. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I guess the Cam Newton. Situation would depend on how

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Speaker 1: he plays, because I think there'll be a running football

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Speaker 1: team playing with a lot of two tight ends. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think Trey Lance depends on Garoppolo because Lance, you know,

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Speaker 1: he had that long touchdown, which was a play they loved.

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Speaker 1: They've run it in the regular season with great success

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Speaker 1: over the last number of years. Um. But Lance was

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Speaker 1: He needs to calm down a bit. He threw the

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Speaker 1: and pace. So we'll see. I would beg Garoppolo will

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Speaker 1: end up starting, and then it will depend on how

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Speaker 1: they do because the Niners have a good football team.

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Speaker 1: We always learn a lot when Greg Costell is on

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Speaker 1: our programs, and it's great to have you again. It's

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Speaker 1: been a little bit. Appreciate you coming on today and

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Speaker 1: give us some insight to Trevor Lawrence and some young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: It's always good to see Greg. You always get smarter

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Speaker 1: when Greg Coel comes on the program. Thank you sir.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys really appreciate that. Thanks so much. Give

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Speaker 1: OPT Home of the Checks in Bill, Jaguars camp was

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Speaker 1: pretty solid. Jowan was a little we're working on some

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Speaker 1: things that. He had a great training camp, so we're

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Speaker 1: we're good. He's just gotta uh, do not play great.

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Speaker 1: The answer the questions they play awful, didn't play great.

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Speaker 1: A j camp played very solid, gave a one of pressure,

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Speaker 1: but he's uh, he's been really solid all the way through.

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Speaker 1: Lendar didn't play much obviously, Norwell has got one more

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Speaker 1: week out. But the parts actually did okay in there.

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Speaker 1: So we're developing that third guard which we need and

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Speaker 1: the third tackle right now. Walk a little struggle which

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Speaker 1: she would. He was playing low hands for some reason

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Speaker 1: and it was on and really fast, so he's got

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Speaker 1: to get a lot of wraps. We're counting on him,

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Speaker 1: and he had a really good training camp, so we

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Speaker 1: gotta get him going. That's head coach Urban Meyer discussing

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Welcome back to Jaguars. Happy our j P, Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Brisco is out here, We'll be He'll

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Speaker 1: thanks to Greg Costell great insight at the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: we heard from urban Meyer there. That was this morning

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Speaker 1: our first chance to catch up with the head coach

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Speaker 1: since Saturday and his performance. So the question is Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson left tackle, Jowan Taylor right tackle Walker a little

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Speaker 1: You heard the head coach Urban Mine right there. So

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Speaker 1: he didn't really play struggled. He said, would you start

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Speaker 1: giving little reps with the first team at some point

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Speaker 1: and when would that be and would you at all?

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Speaker 1: I'm less worried about giving reps of the first team.

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Speaker 1: I definitely would want him out there. Um, it could

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Speaker 1: be a great opportunity against the Saints. Go Get Go,

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Speaker 1: get some real defensive end work. And not that he

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Speaker 1: hasn't in practice, I'm saying, but he didn't see real

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Speaker 1: NFL defensive ends. I mean he saw guys who might

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Speaker 1: because they were playing there down the longest. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be on Monday Night football, you know the Saints,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna play their front, front line guys. I'd get

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Speaker 1: him reps against those guys. Um, let me go taste it.

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Speaker 1: Because he has a ton of ability. And urban's right,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have to have a great game. Now the

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Speaker 1: fighting thing is it's now. He got beat and got

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Speaker 1: the quarterback killed. It was just his technique was terrible,

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Speaker 1: his hands were He still got guys blocked, but it

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Speaker 1: was it was ugly. And I think what Verben's saying

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Speaker 1: is a good player would have given him trouble, a

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Speaker 1: lot of trouble. Um, I agree with what a j can.

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Speaker 1: A j Can's good player. Linda didn't play a lot.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Um. I think he was. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll give him the Bennett, I'll agree with him. And

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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of what he's seen in Jowan Taylor

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Speaker 1: But I would agree with him on the assessment of

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Speaker 1: how Juan played in the game. Not great. Um what

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Speaker 1: do you say about Cam? He thought Camp played really well,

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Speaker 1: He thought he played well. Yeah, I thought he played fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't dominating or anything. Um, we played fine.

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Speaker 1: I would agree that. So yeah, but Walker Little, I

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Speaker 1: want to get him reps. I want to put pressure

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Speaker 1: on Juwan Taylor and Cam Robinson and I want to

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Speaker 1: see and Walker and needs he needs reps. It's circle

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Speaker 1: all the way back to what I said at the

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Speaker 1: beginning about who plays how much they play. Trevis Lawrence

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Speaker 1: needs Trevor Trevor Trevor Trevor Lawrence to We've got to

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Speaker 1: head myself with et uh. Trevor Lawrence needs reps. Eten

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Speaker 1: needs reps, Tyson Campbell needs reps, Walker Little needs reps.

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Speaker 1: The rookies, if you're gonna count on them and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna expect production out of them this year to help

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Speaker 1: you win games, they need reps. You can't give him up.

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that Urban kept Walker Little

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Speaker 1: at left tackle for three quarters. He was out there

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Speaker 1: a long times good for him long time. Now give

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Speaker 1: I want to see him get some reps, you know,

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Speaker 1: with that first unit against the top the uh you know,

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Speaker 1: the top rushers from the Saints. Walker was one of

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Speaker 1: the top. He was actually the guy who played the

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Speaker 1: most place place se place, you know, in the regular

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Speaker 1: season to play sixties seventy. I understand that. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying in that and that's how much he played. I agree,

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Speaker 1: But my point is he needs reps. I mean, haven't

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Speaker 1: played in two years, and he's gonna be fine. It'll

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Speaker 1: be good. So I think urban was I think Araban's assessment,

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Speaker 1: um was it was a fair one. I think he

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Speaker 1: was pretty honest there, which he typically is with the players.

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Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, yeah, all right, there you have it.

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Speaker 1: man Davie segment. Woodbridge segment. We're going to pour a

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Speaker 1: about our feelings about the football team. Well, that would

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Speaker 1: be quite an evening. I look forward to that at

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Speaker 1: some point, Tony. Is that allowed, Joe? No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it is. Is there, like, is it in all seriousness?

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Speaker 1: Because you know obviously everyone I'm joking? Um? Is there?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it depends on the answer to this next question,

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Speaker 1: whether I'm joking or not. Is there like some FTC

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Speaker 1: rule that you're not allowed to have TC? What does

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Speaker 1: f TC stand for? Tony? What's the what's the CC

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Speaker 1: so exactly f c C. Is there some Joe? Is

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Speaker 1: there f c C regulation? You're not allowed to have

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Speaker 1: consume alcohol on the air? I from what I understand,

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Speaker 1: you cannot. Yeah, put alcohol to your lips. That's a

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Speaker 1: really that's a rule. Yeah. How in school that I

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Speaker 1: didn't go to. I know, you ever see a beer commercial?

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Speaker 1: They don't really drink beer? Get close? Now on podcasts

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Speaker 1: they do, though it's not over the air. Well they do.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean it's not over the air, like

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Speaker 1: literally over the air when I downloaded it comes through

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Speaker 1: the air. Tom, it's not a broadcast past transmission. That's

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Speaker 1: what they do. So I'm sure I didn't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: because in Major League, Yeah, it's a movie. Yeah, what's

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Speaker 1: Harry Doyle and no, the uh the Major League Joe

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Speaker 1: the announcer, who's the announcer? Who is the announcer? Doyle

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Speaker 1: Bob Uker. That's how I could think about Bob Yucker

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Speaker 1: a movie. I'm just saying. I'm just saying as well,

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Speaker 1: Home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, so much of

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Speaker 1: the first game was I mean, the conversation we had

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Speaker 1: about only get him a series, only get ten plays

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Speaker 1: and um, And I think it was a great learning

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Speaker 1: When you start the game and they go right down

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Speaker 1: out to the eight team. I think it was a

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Speaker 1: ten yard line And the worst penalty in football is

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Speaker 1: when you see that now your offense is backed up.

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Speaker 1: And so just talk can know about how the every

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Speaker 1: drive council. That's when you're only talking about sixty plays

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Speaker 1: three hours of football. That's the big change for a

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Speaker 1: lot of players and coaches. You know, they getting a

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Speaker 1: couple of drives a half, you know, or in colleging,

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Speaker 1: you know your eight ninety plays a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: so every play's gotta count. Every Drive's gotta count Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer earlier today and welcome back Jaguar's Happy Hour, d P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Tony Baselli, Noe, Pete Brisco tonight, and it's time for

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Speaker 1: social media questions. Tony, it's your favorite time of each

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Speaker 1: and every show where we dig into the mail bag.

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Speaker 1: We put out the bat signal earlier today on social

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Speaker 1: them tonight, Number one tonight from at General of Duval.

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Speaker 1: Should C. J. Henderson start Week one? No idea, It's

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01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: way too early. Um. I think he's been out what

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01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: a total of three practices full attacked. Um, so let's

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01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 1: give it some time. Pretty straight. But going into the

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Speaker 1: game Saturday, out there again today, which is great. He

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Speaker 1: was the ones today. It's a better team, is C. J.

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Speaker 1: Henderson's You're starting corner because he's a good football player,

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01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: but you have to be available. Um. He's had some

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01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: off the field issue. When I say issues, it's you know,

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01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: we're not sure what they are, but he's had some

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Speaker 1: sort of health issues. Whether it's the betterment of like

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Speaker 1: physical health, mental health. I have no idea. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, it's none of my business. It's none of

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Speaker 1: any of our business until it does. You know, if

1631
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Speaker 1: you can't play, then they'll let us know why. But

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Speaker 1: all I know is we're a better team with him

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Speaker 1: out there. And he played well in the first preseason game.

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Speaker 1: He showed his ability had the one miss tackle. But

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Speaker 1: you haven't had that many reps out there. I'm not

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Speaker 1: overly concerned with that. A couple of past breakups. Um,

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Speaker 1: I like our secondary. If he started in one corner,

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Speaker 1: you got your kill Griffin at the other, and you

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Speaker 1: have Tyson Campbell's your nickel. Pretty good. You're pretty good

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Speaker 1: right there, pretty athletic, pretty fast. Let's see how the

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Speaker 1: rest of camp and the preseason goes with him. Next

1642
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Speaker 1: question at s boss in seven, can Tony see pushing

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Speaker 1: Taylor inside the right guard since Sandalis had him doing

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Speaker 1: better there because of his power instead of footwork, pushing

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Speaker 1: Cam to right tackle, and putting Walker at left tackle

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Speaker 1: since he was literally like a wall Saturday night. I

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Speaker 1: think at most I saw him getting pushed three to

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Speaker 1: four steps back. That's a long series of thoughts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so one Walker little is a big man in physical

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Speaker 1: but we talked about. He has a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do. I do think he ultimately can be a

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Speaker 1: start will be a starting tackle here were left or right, Um,

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Speaker 1: because he has that kind of talent. He's athletic, he's powerful,

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Speaker 1: he's a naturally big man. Um. I'm not sure why

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Speaker 1: you would move um Juan Taylor into right guard when

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Speaker 1: maybe the guy who played the best football with any

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Speaker 1: of your offensive line and last year was a J.

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Speaker 1: Cannon and a J Cann. Everyone's gonna pay attention to

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Speaker 1: first play where if the ball is out on time,

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Speaker 1: it's late, pressure, ball was held, end up getting a sack.

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Speaker 1: Um offensive line is always gonna get blamed for it,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not completely their fault. Go watch the

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Speaker 1: rest of the game. Every play from that he was

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Speaker 1: pretty much physically dominan. He was very good last year.

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Speaker 1: A J Can's went your best offensive linement. So no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not moving Juwan Taylor inside to take a J

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Speaker 1: Can's job. They want to start now if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to move Cam to right tackle and go compete with

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Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor because you wanted to walk a little possibly

1670
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 1: later this year, Walker Little's got to get better now.

1671
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: He's not He's not better than Cam at left tackle

1672
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 1: at this point today right this seconds, not based one

1673
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: we saw on the tape. Could he could? He could

1674
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 1: be better at right than Juwan right now? I don't know.

1675
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Tell me when I see it. Okay, I mean all

1676
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: you can go buy is the tape, not what we want,

1677
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,839
Speaker 1: not what you hope not you're based on your bias

1678
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: or your feelings or whether I did last year or

1679
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: you didn't like either. Like so if I watched the tape,

1680
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: can perform better than walk a little? Okay? Cam should play?

1681
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: Next question from at the Underscore Jacks Fans six one

1682
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: five on d how did the run fits look on tape?

1683
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: We all believe it will be crucial to stop the run,

1684
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: not only this year but every year. Hashtag go Jags.

1685
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: You know what, You're right, It is crucial to stop

1686
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: the run not only this year but every year. If

1687
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I were to get Jacks Fan six five on the

1688
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: phone or the Underscore Jacks Fans six one five on

1689
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: the phone and asked him to give me the definition

1690
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: of a run fix, what does he What does that means?

1691
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 1: I know what it means, but I'm saying, dude, do

1692
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: you think he knows what a run like, j What

1693
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: if that's actually you know, like the linebacker coach Chines.

1694
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: If I would ask you, JB, give me a description

1695
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: of run fits the way I understand it, it's fitting

1696
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: the gaps up front. So everybody has a gap top.

1697
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 1: So if you're a one if you're a one gap defense,

1698
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 1: it's so if I'm the one technique and my responsibility

1699
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: is to the front side a gap, I'm run fitting

1700
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: into that gap. If it's a two gap defense, it's

1701
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: different because now I'm reading the man and I'm playing

1702
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: two very simple So okay, um, overall run fits, UM

1703
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: I did. I'll be honestly, I didn't study the defense

1704
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: at closely where I watched like every single play and

1705
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: watched the I watched individual play more than anything for

1706
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: this first preseason game. Typically the way I watched the

1707
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: preseason is watched individuals, less about scheme, UM or individual

1708
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 1: I thought Von Hamilton's very good. I thought, um dwant

1709
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: smoot playing the solid game. Malcolm Brown flashed, had some

1710
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: good plays, got in the backfield um twelve times for

1711
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:36,799
Speaker 1: fifteen yards on the first half. Robertson Robertson, Roy Robertson

1712
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: Harris Robertson, Harris Um name Robertson, Harris, Roy Robertson, Harris.

1713
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just calling him by his last name,

1714
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: just like I called Brown by his last name, and

1715
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: like I called Hamilton by his last name. He ms

1716
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: have two last names. Robertson. We has double last names, right,

1717
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,719
Speaker 1: go ahead, so didn't count. Just as if it's hyphenated,

1718
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: that's a great question. It's all one word. If it's hyphenated,

1719
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: it's it's one name. Robinson, Harris, Robertson. That's what I said, Robinson. Okay,

1720
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: go ahead. Robertson, we know who you're talking about. Okay,

1721
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: do you say it then, Roy Robertson, Harris, Robertson, Harris,

1722
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: thank you. That's what I said the first time. Good job.

1723
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 1: You know you're really being mean spirited. I wish we

1724
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: had Pete back here. Robertson Harris. Um was good and

1725
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: solid in physical and big um. None of the guys

1726
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: I mentioned are great pass rushers. Might means wants by

1727
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: the best of them, I thought, chas On some good run.

1728
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: You know they've got pass rushing. Josh Allen had some

1729
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: good pass rushes, but overall, the run defense was very good,

1730
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 1: which is what you want. That's good. That's a good start.

1731
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: But now then again Brown's junior varsity was out there. Yes,

1732
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:54,520
Speaker 1: no starters none, two best backs not there, top receivers

1733
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: not there, top tight end not there, starting line not

1734
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: their quarterback not there. You were playing the j B

1735
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: second team. That should have been the keeping it real

1736
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: segment right there. But we'll see. Hey, you know it's

1737
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: good start though, goody they ran them out there. So

1738
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: next question from that, Jay Hopkins b g S question

1739
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: for you, JP. It seemed to me when you interviewed

1740
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: Urban after the game that he was more upset about

1741
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 1: losing free season than other head coaches have been mid season.

1742
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 1: Did it come across that way to you, great show, No,

1743
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 1: I think he was a negative ghost writer in the pattern,

1744
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: thank you. I think that he was frustrated with some

1745
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: of those situations. We heard him talk about the holding

1746
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: on the kickoff return and the field position was not

1747
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: great and they didn't execute a couple of times in

1748
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 1: the fourth and one play it didn't work out, And

1749
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: I think he said going into the game, you know

1750
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: the results. You want to win the game, but there

1751
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: are more important things to a preseason game in the

1752
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 1: actual final score, some other coaches would think differently on

1753
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: that that we've seen around here. Um, every coach mid

1754
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 1: season is going to have a much different idea of

1755
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: that than they do in the preseason. So I'm not

1756
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: sure what that was. If you have a game like

1757
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: that opening day against that, then I think he'll share

1758
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 1: his postgame interview pleasure would be interesting. I'll say that

1759
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 1: good luck. Let's hope it doesn't win. A yeah, I

1760
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: agree with that. Let's move along. Next question at Jags

1761
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: eight five thoughts on pass rush and it was the

1762
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 1: first preseason game, but should we be concerned with the

1763
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: lack of pass rush. Guys weren't getting enough pressure to

1764
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: affect quarterbacks and didn't seem to be getting home on

1765
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: blitz is Tony Oh my goodness, remember one the one

1766
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 1: thing that he said that was right, Please don't panic, um.

1767
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 1: If you want to look at pass rush, Josh Allen

1768
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: had very few raps. A couple he did. He had

1769
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 1: a good inside passwork, got pressure. Um, so I like,

1770
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: can't even get warmed up, and uh Calevan Chason had

1771
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: two really good pass rushes that stood out where he won.

1772
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: Alan played twelve snaps. Here's the thing. And how many

1773
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: of those were actually in pass rushing situations? You know,

1774
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: not many. The ball was out quick case Keenum's a veteran.

1775
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 1: It was a lot of short passing. You know, he

1776
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: hit the third step, hit the fifth step. It's out.

1777
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to hit the quarterback when that's happening. And

1778
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: so um I would not. I'm I'm concerned about it

1779
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: overall for the season, like where is the pastures gonna come?

1780
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: We talked about that last week with Pete on this show.

1781
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: So I think it's a fair question to ask. What

1782
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: happened in the preseason game has zero impact on my

1783
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: being happy or sad or scared or optimistic about it.

1784
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't change your feelings from anything, not one bit. Okay,

1785
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 1: next question from at deston Rayne, Let's cut the team, sir,

1786
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: that's not a question. Yeah, that's a statement, and Pete's

1787
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: not here to do it for you, so I will

1788
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: not do that. The first cut is tomorrow, deadline down, dude,

1789
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: that they're gonna go from. See, I knew this. I

1790
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: had this argument. And you know what, if Frank and

1791
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: Jeff are listening right now, Joe, you were in the booth,

1792
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: and I said, there's multiple cuts, one every week every two.

1793
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 1: What did they say, Joe, put your ma Tell what

1794
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: they said? Tell me, I want you to say it.

1795
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: Say it. He doesn't remember. No, it's all one Cut's correct. No,

1796
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,679
Speaker 1: there's one every Tuesday, Frangie, don't ever question me again.

1797
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm always right. It goes to five tomorrow, next Tuesday

1798
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: it goes from eight five to eight, and then the

1799
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 1: next Tuesday it's down with basically two weeks to the

1800
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: regular season. I knew it. And there's gonna be people

1801
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: available for the practice squad. Yes, those rules are the

1802
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 1: same four. Yes, all that's the same from last year,

1803
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: but the cut is different this year. Any surprises on

1804
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: this first cut, I think on the first cut there

1805
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 1: won't be many surprises, right, I mean it is the

1806
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 1: only team I heard is like in like so like ridiculous.

1807
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow just got I was getting killed on Twitter

1808
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: last night, just killed. Not just in Jacksonville like national um.

1809
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 1: But the interesting thing about Tim Tebow to me was

1810
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 1: not the miss blocks or any of that stuff that

1811
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 1: happens in football. By the way, and he's a brand

1812
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: new tight end. He's never huh. Those other guys are

1813
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 1: paid across the line, and it just so I can

1814
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: critique that I can walk through it. We've talked about it,

1815
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: Jeff and I have talked about it. There's a physicality

1816
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: that needs to work on, so unforth, like, I don't

1817
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 1: like it got too much the memes. It was too

1818
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 1: much to me. We come on, give me the guy

1819
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: a break, because I I could literally go through Hall

1820
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: of Famers tape and show embarrassing box. That's just not

1821
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: don't I don't like stuff like that anyway. Anyways, the

1822
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: bigger thing I'd be concerned about. He was the only

1823
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: tight end that didn't play on any special teams none,

1824
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 1: zero snaps. And typically if you're gonna be a down

1825
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 1: the line tight end or that move tight end slash fullback,

1826
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 1: you were playing on special teams because you're not going

1827
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 1: to be kept if you otherwise. And so I'm not

1828
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be a first cut, but that was

1829
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: surprising to me JP that he was not, because you

1830
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: would think if his point, if your plan was that

1831
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow on this roster as your fourth or fifth

1832
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: tight end or fourth fifth tight end slash fullback, which

1833
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 1: we've seen him running practice. Um that he would be

1834
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: on special teams and so that was that was like

1835
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 1: the light went off. I'm like, oh, this isn't because

1836
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: he got other guys, you know, going ten reps on

1837
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: special teams. That's the high water market ends. Luke Farrell

1838
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: had eight snaps on special teams. Yeah, the tight end list.

1839
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 1: Man Hurts I out there for kickoff returns. Farrell had eight.

1840
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Uh Davis had five snaps on special teams. Shaunessy had

1841
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: two snaps on special had six. Man Hurts had one.

1842
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Manage to the starter and you hadbody else had at

1843
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: least one, and he was on kickoff returns. I remember

1844
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: seeing him and he's a starter. I was shocked that

1845
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: Teabo got no reps. I would be concerned if I

1846
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 1: was um a player who was trying to make this

1847
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: roster on the down at the bottom of the roster,

1848
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 1: which Tim Tebo was clearly trying to do. He's not

1849
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna be the Starter's not gonna be the second. He's

1850
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: not a dynamic pass catcher. That's not his role. Hey,

1851
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: they've been moving him a move tight end block, you know,

1852
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: in the fullback at fullback position. If that was my

1853
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 1: role and I'm not on any special teams. I'd start

1854
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: looking around, going, um, hey I can cover kicks, raise

1855
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: my hand, hey, I can blocks. What do you want

1856
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 1: to do, coach? Coach put me in because you have

1857
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: to contribute there if you're gonna make this roster. So, um,

1858
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 1: I spring that up because cuts are coming tomorrow. Yes five.

1859
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's getting cut. Um, I have no

1860
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 1: idea who's getting cut? Um? Urban Nord Trent called me,

1861
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: give me asking me. Didn't know. I'm shocked they should.

1862
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they're new and all guys, but

1863
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: Tony's on the wall. You know they understand that he

1864
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: has to go through me. I mean like to ask you,

1865
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: you'll tell them. By the way, no one in the

1866
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: history of this franchise has ever called me and asked me.

1867
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: I had plenty opinions every year I has a player

1868
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: or not, but that no one asked me. And I'm

1869
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,639
Speaker 1: also curious. Urban touched on it a little bit today.

1870
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: The effort of all these guys put through it. It's

1871
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 1: gotta be about the first time he's had to cut cut.

1872
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably he's run people off. Don't get

1873
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 1: the guys are going through offseason and training camp and

1874
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 1: his first time to have to sit down across the

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Speaker 1: But when you are doing everything the coaches ask and

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Speaker 1: that not fun. For one final social media question from

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Speaker 1: JP every day of the week. How about that one?

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Speaker 1: That's that's high praise, appreciate, but at it for a

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Speaker 1: long time Collins great love Gong been on the show

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Speaker 1: say about that? But I still choose to be with

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Speaker 1: you JP. Just asking about it was a lot of Trevor.

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Speaker 1: How's it going with Urban? Tell me that Trevor. How's

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Speaker 1: he asked me a question about Gardner minshe if I

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Speaker 1: thought he was a starting quarterback or not in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: um I said, on a team that wants to contend

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Speaker 1: think he usually started. I don't think he's a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Um I said that last year. UM

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Speaker 1: I think, is is he a guy that if you

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Speaker 1: using football games? Sure? Could he be like a Ryan

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't think immediately, but I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's a if I'm building a franchise, he's

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Speaker 1: not my starting quarterback. Like I mean, if you're trying

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Speaker 1: to go win a championship, I mean nothing against them.

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Speaker 1: I love the competitiveness, I love his like work, hard, grit,

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Speaker 1: The station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten XL

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Speaker 1: home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on a Monday, almost said all said Thursday, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't. J. P. Shadrick. That's Tony BASSELLI No, Pete Frisco,

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Speaker 1: He'll be back a couple of weeks. I can collapse.

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Speaker 1: In the background. There are people buzzing about this show tonight,

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Speaker 1: Tony Award winning highest ratings ever. I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: this one is right up there, almost as good as

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Speaker 1: the one when you were gone in London. Well, I

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Speaker 1: know your dad prefers. Pete's gone more than me. I

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Speaker 1: know that for a fact. I got inside sources that

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Speaker 1: Mr Shady prefers show. I mean, who doesn't really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you don't, then there's you know, maybe there's something

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Speaker 1: wrong now and for everyone next week you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to just I mean. The good news is we'll be

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Speaker 1: playing the Saint. You can listen to the broadcast on

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Speaker 1: the radio Public Sailgate show four o'clock. I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: keep saying it's at eight o'clock, kick eight o'clock here

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Speaker 1: for three hours before is five o'clock. And so what

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Speaker 1: was told there would be no math to know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of pregame stuff will be on it, but unfortunately

2011
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Speaker 1: there will be no Monday Night show next weekend. Um,

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Speaker 1: due to contract issues, I will not be here on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: You're not coming in to do the backup show. No,

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Speaker 1: what's not Joe said, I didn't have to good. When

2015
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Speaker 1: Joe negotiated my contract, he said no Tuesdays only Mondays.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Uh. He was a hard line. I think

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Speaker 1: the other reason is because I don't think we have

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Speaker 1: any airtime Tuesday. We could, I mean create it if

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Speaker 1: we needed to. I think that's probably Monday nights. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back in two weeks from now the Monday Night Show.

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Speaker 1: Oh of course. Now this week coming up Wednesday, it's

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Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks Wednesday afternoon, four o'clock on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. I'll tell you one of the best

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Speaker 1: editions we made. It was last year and he had

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Speaker 1: a role in his roles expanding. It was Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks if you've ever not have you ever seen him,

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Speaker 1: former teammate of mine, if you ever saw him, if

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Speaker 1: you ever get a chance to see him on the

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Speaker 1: NFL network, I believe it is it is. Um, I

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Speaker 1: get confused of all the different stations. He is really

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Speaker 1: good and he does a great job, and the addition

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Speaker 1: of him to our team has been a great one.

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Speaker 1: I know he if you watched if if you were

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Speaker 1: unfortunate enough not to hear the radio on Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: which I know that was much listened for everybody to

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Speaker 1: listen to Jeff and I, um, I'm I'm sure him

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Speaker 1: and I know him and Brian Sexon did a great

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Speaker 1: job doing the TV. He's he's as he's he is,

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Speaker 1: so he's so good and and so what's this Wednesday show?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's uh. We used to call it Happy

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Speaker 1: Hours Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. We've made that the

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Speaker 1: podcast in the off season called it huddle Up because

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Speaker 1: it was Wednesday midweek kind of thing, you know, and

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Speaker 1: we put it out in the morning, so it wasn't

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Speaker 1: Happy Our at nine am last I checked most places. No,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be in the afternoon. We're gonna call it

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Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Wednesday's four o'clock co Bucky. Good luck

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Speaker 1: trying to get the second place, because you're never gonna

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Speaker 1: get the first place. There's only one first place on

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Speaker 1: this network, and that's the Monday night show without Basselli.

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Speaker 1: Because the Prisco when when you were in London is

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Speaker 1: number one. This is a close second course. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: let's be clear. The name of this show is Basselli,

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Speaker 1: Shadrick and sometimes Pee Prisco here at the top of

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Speaker 1: the marquee. Uh there, come on, JP. Is there any

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Speaker 1: doubt about that? I don't know, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But no. But and then and then Thursday we have

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Speaker 1: happy and I'll t'll be joining weeks. I'm on the

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Speaker 1: road doing Thursday night football. Now we have a great

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Speaker 1: line up. The team does great. I'm looking for this

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Speaker 1: is good time in the morning. Oh, it's great. There's

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Speaker 1: so much and I'm not self promoting here, all seriousness.

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Speaker 1: Bucky coming on is great. Jeff obviously always does a

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Speaker 1: great job. JP, Ashlynd, Brian Sexton. You know, Joe making

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Speaker 1: the whole engine run so sure, Um he joined us

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Speaker 1: and I did forget about him. So anyways, good stuff

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Speaker 1: and the hope is and we saw, you know, a

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Speaker 1: snippet on Saturday night of this Jaguar team. Um, some good,

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Speaker 1: some bad, some ugly. You know, probably I found. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting because going into the game and going

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Speaker 1: into camp, there was so much excitement because Urban and

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Speaker 1: Trevor and and to the point because it happened back

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Speaker 1: in February or in the January hired or excitement have

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Speaker 1: the first of all pick free agency. Okay, not as

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Speaker 1: much excitement as maybe as usual because it wasn't the big,

2076
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Speaker 1: big splash guy, but a good player, skill grif friend

2077
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Speaker 1: and uh it's been a lot of free agency money

2078
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Speaker 1: they had. But then he'd get like everyone wanted like whatever,

2079
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Speaker 1: but anyways, excitement. Then the draft comes Lawrence et who

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Speaker 1: excitement and it's just you have O, T A S

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Speaker 1: and and like there's this fever pitch and I think

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Speaker 1: people were like, we are super like we were in

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, like we are ready, here we go domination.

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Speaker 1: Depending on who you asked, Yeah, I mean and I

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Speaker 1: felt it, which is good, that's what you wanted fans.

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Speaker 1: But then you got into the preseason game and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you're playing the Browns backups. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: go so well. I think that's good from this dandpoint, Hey,

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Speaker 1: little like we have work to do. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna be a good team. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: Urban was it. I mean Urban's great, Trevor's great, we

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Speaker 1: got all these great players, but it's the reality of

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Speaker 1: the check is that we have a this is uh,

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Speaker 1: what's the old saying. Rome wasn't built in a day

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Speaker 1: break by b It's a process. You have to lay

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Speaker 1: a foundation, you have to do the hard work, you

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Speaker 1: have to get in the details, you need the reps,

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Speaker 1: you need to go on the same page. And it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take a process. It's gonna take time. Um and

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Speaker 1: so everyone just take a deep breath. Don't panic. It's okay.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't great. Some good stuff, some bad stuff, some

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Speaker 1: bugs of this stuff, but don't panic. It'll be okay

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Speaker 1: as long as we keep on getting the error point

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Speaker 1: in the right direction so that this thing hits a

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Speaker 1: um crescendo. Come Houston. We need to kick it off

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Speaker 1: for real, because that's what matters everything. All you're trying

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Speaker 1: to do is get the building blocks in place where

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Speaker 1: you can put your best foot forward and have your

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Speaker 1: best performance when you play Houston, and then you know

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Speaker 1: what you do after that. Then you start building again

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Speaker 1: and try to have your best performance whoever we play

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Speaker 1: the next week, Denver Broncos. How much do you charge

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Speaker 1: an hour for these sessions? Tony I should charge I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about opening a website self help with This is

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli. I'm listening than to steal Fraser's line, right,

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Speaker 1: you're helping a lot of people right down, I mean,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Do you disagree? Yeah, that's the first preseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a whole new the whole things new. Yeah. You

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Speaker 1: got a month to the regular season and then that's

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Speaker 1: when it really meant Now, like we said earlier, if

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Speaker 1: that happens Week one in Houston, okay, alarm bells might

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Speaker 1: ring a little bit, but you got a month until

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Speaker 1: all that goes down. A couple of quick NFL notes,

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton or Mac Jones. Who's gonna start in New England? Tony,

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Speaker 1: I think camp starts the opening day. I think by

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, Mac Jones is your starter.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks made a final offer to fifth year safety Jamal Adams.

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Speaker 1: Will he play in Seattle? And he'll play? And it

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Speaker 1: makes sense to said, if you're an a player, short

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Speaker 1: career is too short, and the Dalton, the number one

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Speaker 1: quarterback in Chicago, Go Fields needs more reps. Will he

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Speaker 1: be the starter at some point sooner before the season ends.

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Speaker 1: Fields will be a starter. Adalton will start the season

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Speaker 1: they have a good football team, good defense there. There's

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Speaker 1: a look around the NFL. That's how we roll. Because

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Speaker 1: we had our session with Tony Baselli that calm everybody

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Speaker 1: can breath. Peter me back with us in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. We're off next Monday because of Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: The Jags and the Saints coming up. Great show, Tony JP,

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Speaker 1: thanks to John Osier, thanks to Greg Cosal, Joe Fortunado,

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Speaker 1: Brent Reebert Trimpada. I'm J P. Shadrick and we will

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Speaker 1: catch you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network.