1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: M Hey y'all, this is Dr Joy from the Therapy 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: for Black Girls podcast and this is a booster session. 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: As a reminder, the information included is meant to be 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: educational and entertaining, but is not a substitute for relationship 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: with a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, surprise, I'm 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: here with a special bonus episode of Therapy for Black Girls. 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: That is the first part of an incredible series featuring 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: a few amazing black women in business. This series is 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: being brought to you with the support of Visor. 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As we count down to 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: this year's Black Enterprise Women of Power Summit, which will 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: be held March fifth through the eighth in Las Vegas, 20 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: I'll be speaking in the Visor booth during the summit 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: about how our mental health is impacted by our experiences 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: in the workplace, in entrepreneurship, in leadership roles, and in 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: relationships with others. And I wanted to kick off these 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: conversations right here on the podcast talking to a few 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: women about their experiences. In part one of the series, 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: you'll hear my conversation with Dr Key Hallman. Dr Key 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: is the visionary behind the Village Market, a t L 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: and one of the dopest sisters I've ever met. She's 29 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: a Mississippi native and has dedicated her life to serveing, educating, 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: and empowering her community. A social entrepreneur, curator, speaker, and 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: passionate educator, Dr Hallman is committed to revitalizing and unifying 32 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: her community by curating community led events that celebrate the arts, changemakers, entrepreneurs, 33 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: plant based advocates, and educators. A guiding principle for her 34 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: is the idea that each of us must dedicate ourselves 35 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: to serving the good of our people. We are community, 36 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Our fate and futures are interconnected. If we act in 37 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: oneness and in the spirit of togetherness, not only can 38 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: we survive, we can thrive. Dr Key and I chatted 39 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: about what sisterhood can look like in business, her definition 40 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: of the modern village, practical ways we can create community 41 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: with other sisters, us, how to truly embrace a spirit 42 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: of collaboration over competition, and she shares how she tends 43 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: to her mental health while also tending to her business. 44 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: If you hear something that resonates with you while listening, 45 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: please share it with us on social media using the 46 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: hashtag tv G in session. Here's our conversation. Thank you 47 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: so much for joining us today, Dr Key. I'm so 48 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: appreciative for you sharing with us today. I am so 49 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: excited to be talking to you, Dr Joy and to 50 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: be a part of this incredible platform that you've created 51 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: for all of us. Oh, thank you, thank you. So 52 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: I should let y'all know that Dr Key and I 53 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: are friends offline, right, so if if we get way 54 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: too into the girlfriend Chad, that is why. So Dr Key, 55 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I just want to start by hearing your thoughts. So 56 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: you are, of course the creator and founder and visionary 57 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: behind the Village market a t L and I just 58 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: want to hear from you where this came from. Why 59 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: did you feel the need to create something like the 60 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Village you know, every time I'm asked this question, I 61 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: try to always remember what did I feel when I 62 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: first had the vision. I felt that it was something 63 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: I could do. Number One, I just didn't know exactly 64 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: what they could do with manifest into. So when I'm 65 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: at how did you create the village market? How did 66 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: you get this marketplace to grow and stretch across the 67 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: country and out of the country, my next question is 68 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: God is so good because I don't know how that happened. 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: It happened really really quickly put the vision to create 70 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the marketplace, to create experience for small business owners and 71 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: people who love consumers. Black consumers are really all consumers 72 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: who love authentic, beautiful, handmade products that are created by 73 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: the magicianship of black people. I was going through several 74 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: events here in the city of Atlanta. I love sesscal, 75 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: I love markets, That's my thing. And I would go 76 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: to these events and I felt that they were void 77 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: of us, of black people, and I just started to 78 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: do a deep dive or why was that? So? I 79 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: loved dog with Cecil, I go every year. I'd be 80 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: going this year, but I wonder, why were we board 81 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: of black artisans in that space? And I realized that 82 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: the responsibility to create space it's not for people who 83 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: are not black. It would be great if they were 84 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 1: considerate of us in that way, but I don't sign 85 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: that joy to be their responsibility. It's our responsibility to 86 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: create excellence for us. And so I didn't want to 87 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: wait anymore. I knew at that time I met some 88 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: really gifted small business owners or people who had great concept. 89 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, if they had the right audience, it 90 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: could really blossom and bloom into this amazing thing. And 91 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: I created the Village Market. I never been a vendor, 92 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: I never booked the event space, I've never done any 93 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: of these things, but now has become a career for me. 94 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Like I had to learn every single thing that people 95 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: experienced at the Village Market everything. But I knew that 96 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: I had this thing that I could see in my mind, 97 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: and I just kept going towards the thing that I saw. 98 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: So I hope I answered that yes, yes, And you 99 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: bring up a great point. And you and I talked 100 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: about this all the time, right, just this idea that 101 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: if we really don't always know what we're doing. Most 102 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: of the time, we don't know what we're doing, right, 103 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: But it really is a process of like just continuing 104 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: to move forward. Absolutely, I had no idea, and I 105 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: think for most visionaries who pair vision with work ethics 106 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: understand that if we keep chipping away, we can do 107 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: almost anything. It takes a level of humility to know 108 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: what you don't know, and we're with's all and a 109 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: trust and fortitude to keep digging deeper to get the 110 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: knowledge that you need the resources that you need to create. 111 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Because I've learned a couple of years ago figuring out 112 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: how to code things that looked like hieroglyphics to me 113 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: way back when, and just understanding event management. When I 114 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: say I didn't know any of these things, but I 115 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: knew what I wanted small businesses to experience, and I 116 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: knew what I wanted patrons to experience. And those are 117 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the two people on my white board that was in 118 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: my house. How can I create an amazing experience for 119 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: a small business owner? And how can I create an 120 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: unforgettable experience for the patrons who calm and I would 121 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: just chip every day and every morning on how to 122 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: create this and how to make it amazing. And here 123 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: we are with your amazing experiences that are just continuing 124 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: to expand So one of the things I love so 125 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: much about what you do, Dr Key, is that you know, yes, 126 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the village market like started as a mark you please, 127 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: but it has become so much more than that, I mean, 128 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: And so I really think about you in terms of 129 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: recreating what a modern village looks like for us, And 130 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: so I want to hear what your thoughts are about, 131 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: like what do the modern villages look like? And like 132 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: how do you think we can continue to grow those 133 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: in our own communities. A martyr village looks like what 134 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: you and I are doing right now. We are friends 135 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: off in the world, but we have a great deal 136 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: of respect for our professional careers and pathways, and any 137 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: time that you and I can work together, we choose 138 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: to do so. And if we're looking for resources to 139 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: help us build our individual babies, we look within each other, 140 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: which means we look inside of the village. And when 141 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: people think, well, how do you create community, you create 142 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: community by the people who occupy the space with you 143 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: to share the same level of vision and heart and passion. 144 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: They don't have to share the same level of expertise, 145 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: because the village is a pless well of excellence. Everybody's 146 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: bringing the best of the best of the best in 147 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: the level of humility, choosing to I just post space 148 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: to make it better for me. The village market had 149 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: to be beyond a marketplace, because that was just the 150 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: first step. In order to really build a just the saming, 151 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: ever growing community. We have to move beyond isolated island 152 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: like countpt The marketplace is one place that people can 153 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: commune and gather for small businesses. You and I've done 154 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: the will to be well with women together who had 155 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: a sincere desire inside of them in twenty eighteen to 156 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: feel better in their souls. But what I do know, 157 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: if I didn't create the marketplace, if I didn't honor 158 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: the first thing that I was called to do, I 159 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: wonder if you and I would have even met if 160 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: you didn't create there for black girls and be obedient 161 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: with the first thing that you have created to do, 162 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: all the people if you work with, and all the 163 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: great things you've been able to do in the world. 164 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if people will know who you are. All 165 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: you create a Martin village is honestly answering to the 166 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: first call that you've been given and doing so well. 167 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: So when you shine so bright and you become a 168 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: lighthouse to other people who are leaders and who are 169 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: trying to be a community. And everybody started working together. 170 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: And you said, how did this echo to some even 171 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: manifest it manifested because everybody decided to shine light and 172 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: so bright in their calling. And it goes without questions 173 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: that we can see each other because we can see 174 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: every time I talk to you, you always want to 175 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: try to leave me in tears. Your poetic side comes out. 176 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: But but I think, you know, I think that this 177 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: just speaks so clearly to like who you are, key 178 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: and like from our first meeting, like you are just 179 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: one of those people who like the love of community 180 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: and the authentic engagement with other sisters is like just 181 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: so real that it does nothing but create space for 182 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: people to kind of join on you in that. And 183 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: so that's what I really want to see if you 184 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: can share for people, like, how can you really get 185 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: into a space of like a true idea of collaboration 186 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: over competition? The truth the space of collaboration, sisterhood over 187 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: competition is to know there's a level of self awareness 188 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: that you must have within yourself if you do all 189 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: the work inside of you to show up fully, do 190 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: you know and I know that my job is not 191 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: to compete with you. My job is to share space 192 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: with you. And if you're sharing space at your fullness, 193 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you're not taking anything from me. I believe when we 194 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: differ from that plan how we were created, it's because 195 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: we've adopted the way it thinks as extern our DNA 196 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: at times they were not good enough that if somehow 197 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Dr Joy does well, it counsels the area of the 198 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: black therapists in the world from doing well. If Dr 199 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: Key does well in the Black business community engagement space 200 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: and somehow she's knocked out, the opportunity for me authentic 201 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: sisterhood is being able to identify other people's gifts and 202 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: seeing how we can better put our gifts together to 203 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: do a greater good. It can be intimidating goal when 204 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: you are striving to build, hoping to be seen, and 205 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: you feel that people in your space have shine so 206 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: brightly said, there is no space for you. I have 207 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: a lot of grace and empathy when I see women, 208 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: since we're talking about black women, hesitate to work together, 209 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: or when we have an opportunity to leverage where we 210 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: are in the room to put another Black woman on 211 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: we choose not to. I think that comes from a 212 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: place of sincere brokenness and a place where it it 213 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: hasn't been modeled well enough to let you know that 214 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: there is enough when we say in the village market, 215 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: there's enough for all of us. For me, I deeply 216 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: believe that, Like I know that everything on us occupying 217 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: the world, I'm going to occupy fully. But I also 218 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: know everything that you're going to occupy the world, you're 219 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna occupy fully. But the best thing that we can 220 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: do is joining that together. And I just think it's 221 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: not an absolute answer on how to authentically build sisterhood 222 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: if we don't first take that step back and build 223 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: all the stuff love within ourselves. That's what takes away 224 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: the competition, because then you know that you're the only 225 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: person that you compete with is the woman you were 226 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: yesterday or the woman you were this morning. M Yeah, 227 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I think it really is important to 228 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: make sure we highlight the fact that like some of 229 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: this brokenness is not of our community, right, Like this 230 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: was placed onto our community because of history of oppression 231 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and racism, and like some of this is inherited within 232 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: our community, and we continue to operate out of it. 233 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think we have to write like I 234 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: think we can have intentional conversations like this one and 235 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: show ourselves grace and compassion, and thereby and show other 236 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: sisters grace and compassion. Absolutely, But I think when you 237 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: do the self examination that I hope that we all do, 238 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: when we can be so honest when we look in 239 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: the mirror and we want to lie to ourselves. If 240 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: there's anything that comes up inside of your spirit but 241 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: you feel a sense of envy for the success of 242 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: another person, I think then you have to start doing 243 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: like the root cause analysis, why do I feel this way? 244 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: And I think if we can start uncovering those answers, 245 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: we can go to a deeper truth. And that's what 246 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: you said. A lot of things are already and graining 247 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: us through our passage and enforced arrival here in the 248 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: conditions of trauma that we went through. We can't change 249 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: our history. But choosing to decide to do the work, 250 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: to be in a space of healing, to be in 251 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: a place of love, it just takes a commitment. I'm 252 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: not saying that it's easy, because it's not. But I 253 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: know if we always should fling back on what our 254 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: ancestors went through and even the trauma that still goes 255 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: through the vibrations of our body, we would not move forward. 256 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: And if we want something better, we just have to 257 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: decide to move forward and they healthier space. Yeah, and 258 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: to know that we won't be perfect in that right, 259 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know there will be mistakes. We're not perfect. 260 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Nobody else is perfect. But like you said, like the 261 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: commitment to want to have better relationships with one another 262 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: and to support one another in different kinds of ways, 263 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: even in an imperfect way, healthy discord. M hmm. Yeah, 264 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: And to learn when situations have not been the best, 265 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: because as much as we say black girl magic, we 266 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: know that at times it can be dangerous to share 267 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: space with another black woman if we don't sit together 268 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: and learn how to go through those traumatic moments and 269 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: get to a place of healing. I can't imagine if 270 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: that black girl Magic, the Sisterhood collective could be personified 271 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: in a way that it comes as easiest breathing. It 272 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: takes a different level of work and also takes a 273 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: different level of honesty. And then we as people and 274 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: as women, when do we stop, When do we stop 275 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: saying listen she's just choosing not to do the work. 276 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to let her build over there because 277 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: it's dangerous for my spirit to keep occupying space. So 278 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: what you're talking about is like healthy boundary setting, right, 279 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: like a willingness to do the work with somebody, but 280 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: when they have shown you that they are unwilling to 281 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: do the work, that you then also have to set 282 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: a healthy boundary for yourself. Absolutely boundary setting. And I 283 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: guess as women, when we wonder as black women, is 284 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: it okay to set boundaries with other black women? Is 285 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: it okay in colloquialism to cut another black woman off, 286 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: to not work with another black woman? I think if 287 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: it's dangerous to your state of being, my answer is yes, 288 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: M yeah, I mean, but I think that that is 289 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: difficult to wrestle with, right because you know, especially when 290 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: you are in the business of like wanting all of 291 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: us to win. But you know, we often talk about 292 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: like you can't want something more for somebody than they 293 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: wanted for themselves, and so you know, it does feel like, Okay, 294 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: I want to give you space for us to kind 295 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: of disagree and for us to struggle with this and 296 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: for us to be imperfect, but at some point there 297 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: has to be a line by which I also have 298 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: to protect myself and make sure that I can continue 299 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: to show up absolutely. Yeah, and it's what you said 300 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: healthy boundaries. M hmmm. Yeah, And that doesn't mean that 301 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: you know people can't ever get it together and like 302 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: then apologize and say, okay, can we rejoin this space? Right, 303 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: But at some point there may need to be uh, okay, 304 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: we're not gonna be able to do this right now, right, 305 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think it's it's detrimental to our 306 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: well beings the way we show up in the world. 307 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: This is how I set boundaries. How did you make 308 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: me feel when I'm around here? Am I comfortable with 309 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: shining brightly? Or do I feel like I have to 310 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: somehow put a put something over me to in me 311 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: so you can be comfortable? Or do I share things 312 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: with you and I know not to share a list 313 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: coolness because somehow you're gonna poke hose in my joy 314 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: and a word there. Yeah, And I think we just 315 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: have to be honest because we can't love and being 316 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: community to our own detriment. Yeah. So I'm wondering Dr Keith, 317 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: if you notice that happening with yourself. Does that then 318 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: invite a conversation with the person or is it more 319 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: of your own reflection Like, huh, I'm noticing, like when 320 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm in community with this person, I have a tendency 321 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: to do X y Z. Let me think about what 322 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: that means for me, Like do you have a conversation 323 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: or is it more like a reflection thing for you? 324 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: It depends on the situation. It's a gift and curse. 325 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: What I feel I feel deeply. And the other side 326 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: of that is, if there's something I feel that has 327 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: to be said, it hurts me not to say it. Mm. 328 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: I always do self reflection first and name with this. 329 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: Maybe because I'm thirty eight years but I've learned to 330 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: sit with my own emotions to make sure that I'm 331 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: not projecting, that I'm not holding space for my own 332 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: insecurities and trying to find an escapegoat within another person. 333 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: So I do that, I do the homework and make 334 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: sure like, Hey, did this situation make you feel this way? 335 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: Or is this a past situation that you keep bringing 336 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: it to the table. But if it always comes back 337 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: to when I sit with whomever I feel depleted, I 338 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: feel that I have to shrink. I'll feel like there's 339 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: something that's over my beard and body. Then I know 340 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: that I can't occupy space anymore. And I have just 341 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: learned to tell the truth. I don't feel good when 342 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm around you. I don't feel that you are the 343 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: happiest to me. But what I also extend an invitation. 344 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: Have I been the type of friend that you can 345 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: be happy for? Meaning when you have had moments that 346 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: I sew up for you? Because sometimes women and as people, 347 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: not just women, we all hoard deeply what people didn't do, 348 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: and if they never know what they've done, when it's 349 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: time for you to show up for them, you hold 350 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: back because you feel like they didn't do the same thing. 351 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: And so I always just try to ask the question. 352 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: And then that question is also an olive branch, the 353 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: same olive branch that I need, the same grace that 354 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: I need. But it hurts me not to say, especially 355 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: to someone I love, what I feel. M. Yeah, So 356 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: it sounds like it can be a both end there 357 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: for you, not in either or Yeah, it's totally a 358 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: both end. But I sit with myself first. M. Yeah. Like, 359 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: like you mentioned doing the self work before you go 360 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: to somebody else. Yeah, yes, I have to make sure 361 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: I'm not projecting. So I know. We talked about this 362 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: a little bit at the Will to Be Well, and 363 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: you asked me in the conversation, like about struggles with 364 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome, right, and like continuing to kind of do 365 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: the work that we're doing where there is no blueprint. 366 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, you don't always even know who to ask. 367 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm curious to hear from you. How you have been 368 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: able to kind of overcome in the struggles with like 369 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome or like not knowing what to do next. 370 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think I have just learned 371 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: to just radically be who I am and know that 372 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: who I am is constantly involving. I've just made the 373 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: state of I don't know cool. Yeah, I just had 374 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: to make it cool, because if we make it cool, 375 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: then we become comfortable. And I just remember sitting at table, 376 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: especially before I even started the village, and I was 377 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: an educator, and I grew in the world of education 378 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: really sad. I start teaching when I was twenty two, 379 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: and I was in a leadership role by twenty three, 380 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: and I would have to sit in meetings and lead 381 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: teachers who here is my senior, and I would try 382 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: to stand up a little taller and hope that if 383 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: I still a certain way, they would have a respect 384 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: for what I knew. But I would be in those 385 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: rooms and I felt that their eyes were antagonizing me, 386 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: and I wondered was it their eyes or was that 387 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: I also feel that at twenty three I shouldn't be 388 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: leading teachers two years my senior. And I just remember 389 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: that feeling, and I write about everything. That's the feeling 390 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: that I tried to remember because when I'm sitting in 391 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: room with sometimes tears, sometimes future colleagues who've been building businesses, 392 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: who raised tons of money, and I boost that mine 393 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: and my sitting with my shoulders up because I'm confident 394 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: in what I create. Or am I sitting with my 395 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: shoulders and hoping that they don't see that there's a 396 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: part of me hoping that they don't know that they 397 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: don't realize what I don't know. And I couldn't care 398 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: that anymore. Dr Joy. So now we're going meetings and 399 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: say this is what I come with, this is what 400 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: I've been able to build a lot due to vision 401 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: and others by unwavering work ethic and belief in myself. 402 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: This part of scale I don't know how to reach. 403 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: But if you give me a level of blueprints, this 404 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: unwavering work ethics that I have, I know that I 405 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: can as needed. I've just divorced the need to pretend. 406 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: M Yeah, because you know, I mean so much of 407 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome you can bring with it, like symptoms of 408 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: anxiety and depression, and like you can really just exhaust yourself, 409 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: like beating yourself up about what you don't know, or 410 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: feeling like you don't deserve to be in certain rooms, right, 411 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: And so the idea that you could say, you know what, 412 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: I don't know? Like I'm here and there is a 413 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: part of me that deserves to be here, but there's 414 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: also part of me that has no clue what y'all 415 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: are talking about. Can somebody help me? Right? Right? Right? 416 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: And I think the other part of that, I think 417 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: when that an imposter syndrome comes up, I think it's 418 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: okay to have a level of confidence in yourself pair 419 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: with a humility MMM. Is that you do deserve to 420 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: be in a room. And so many other people who 421 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: built things had no idea as well, and we asked 422 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: them how they started and we blueprint. They were like, man, 423 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: I just believe in myself, right, yeah, but it's like 424 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: the worst that we say to ourselves. I honestly feel dog, 425 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: whatever room I'm in, I'm going to make it shine brighter. 426 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: M h that you're there, absolutely, and I walk in 427 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: at every day because I know that there are no 428 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: accident and if there is any level of fear, I'm 429 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: grateful because I'm still existing in a level of humility, 430 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: which means let me go and make sure I got 431 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: myself together right, right, So I'm appreciative for all the 432 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: emotions that come with it. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of all 433 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: of these emotions, and again, you and I have had 434 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: plenty of these conversations just about how you manage and 435 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, continue to take care of yourself in your 436 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: mental health while continuing to build a business. So what 437 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: kinds of things have been really helpful for you? Then? 438 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: I'm consistent, key word consistent. When I am consistent, What 439 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: does everything for me is getting up early in the morning, praying, 440 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: first hydrating and going from my walk round and then 441 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: going to lift weight. This is what I need. I 442 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: need still this in the morning. I need to be 443 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: able to feel my entire being and check in with 444 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: myself and check in with God, and then go outside 445 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: of being immersed in nature. All of my creativity is 446 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: found there. My refuge is there. We all were hit 447 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: with the sudden loss of Kobe Bryant, and after my 448 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: body had the willingness to move, I just had to 449 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: go outside it. And that's how any emotional day or 450 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: stressful day, I have to immerse myself in nature so 451 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: I could be recharged. If somebody looks at your Instagram, 452 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: they will see all of the nature pictures I often 453 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: teach you. Then yes, and I commune with good friends, 454 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: and that is a level of self care and stuff 455 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: love for myself. I look at how well I love 456 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: myself and my choice of my chosen family and friends. 457 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: I am fortunate to have just good people in my ecosystem, 458 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: and so to me that self care. And I like 459 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: being in spaces of learning as well. So if I 460 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: can go to a guest lecture, and I'm sure like 461 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: this the most nerdy thing ever, but I love it. 462 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: If emory has something going on, I'm sitting in the back. 463 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: I love to learn and it feels me up and 464 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: it keeps me inspired to always learn, But I have 465 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: to go back that when I'm consistent, I am good. 466 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: But there are times, and have been times when I 467 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: forget the things that work, not just the hard parts 468 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: of entrepreneurship, but the hard parts of being a woman. 469 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: A Black woman in this space can be exhausting and 470 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: difficult to carry. So I forget what I know to 471 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: be true with the things that I need, and my 472 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: whole being suffers. It's hard for me to get motivated. 473 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to b from where I rely on, 474 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: and that's my vision. My body hurt, and now I've 475 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: started to see if there is a block I didn't 476 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: block off enough time to take care of myself. If 477 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: my body is hurting, not do the listing weights, but 478 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: just hurting, that means there's things stuck inside of me, 479 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: and that I didn't even give a chance and got 480 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: up and move enough. And so I'm well when I'm consistent, 481 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: And as I have any advice to share with anyone, 482 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: the best thing that we can do to ourselves, for 483 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: ourselves is to be consistent with our self care, even 484 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: when we don't want to right, even when it seems 485 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: we're too busy and too much going on like that 486 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: is what allows you to continue to do all the 487 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: other things, right. Yeah, So what challenges and you kind 488 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: of touched on this a little bit just now, what 489 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: challenges would you say have been the most important for 490 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: you to work through for your growth both as a 491 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: woman and an entrepreneur. Um One of the present challenges 492 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: that I experience is being in a social impact world 493 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: and building a business in this model that does a 494 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: social good and then sitting in rooms with people who 495 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: do not see value in that. It's very black and white. 496 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't make money, does it not? Will this make me 497 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: more money? Okay, it won't. It makes me feel good 498 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: about myself. That's hard and it's also hard sometimes to 499 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: build in a city like Atlanta that illuminates black excellence 500 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: so brightly that it outside the areas that need work, 501 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't show the crack in the ecosystem. So you 502 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: would think that if you come to Atlanta start a business, 503 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be successful and you're gonna have all 504 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: these people who support you, because that's the narrative that 505 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: it is told in Atlanta, and there are pockets of that. 506 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: There are still a clear divide between the half and 507 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: they have not the cool kids, the uncool kids. And 508 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: I struggle because I told you, if something I feel 509 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: needs to be said, it hurts my being not to 510 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: say it. A current struggle is how the champion for 511 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: the people who need an ecosystem that the narrative that 512 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: the city produces that is here and so rich for 513 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: all of us and it's just not true. So how 514 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: to kind of leverage what you've created in a way 515 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: to kind of again give to other people absolutely in 516 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: the gifts of people, ways that their businesses can truly scale. Yeah, 517 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: but if you make something look so good, there's no 518 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to evaluate it. And I think just the struggles 519 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: of sometimes occupying this body that I occupy, it's that 520 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: it's necessary to evaluate things that look so perfect and 521 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: in its entrepreneurs space, we do a disadvantage for every 522 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: business that opens after us if we don't start to 523 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: take a deep look in the ecosystem that is supposed 524 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: to war and to all of us. Yeah, that's why 525 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate you know, you've done several interviews on podcasts 526 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: and on you know, TV and all kinds of things, 527 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: But I appreciate that level of transparency about like, yes, 528 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: this can be really great, but these are some very 529 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: real struggles that I've had, right, and I want to 530 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: I want to help you to recognize the whole picture. Right. Yeah. 531 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: It's been my goal to in an opportunity that I 532 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: get to speak, to tell the truth, the truth that 533 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: I've lived it though, and to create my business in 534 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: ways that if I create a thing that I know 535 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: I needed, another business won't suffer the way I had 536 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: to suffer. Now it's cool to be plant based, but 537 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago doc impossible. Burghers weren't out, 538 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: and what the help. We hadn't seen it yet, and 539 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: so people were not enthoods about a marketplace is going 540 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: to feature hundreds of businesses and all the food is 541 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: going to be plant based and all the products going 542 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: to be organic. That wasn't cool yet. And the reason 543 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: why I had to bet on myself with the support 544 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: of my family and friends, it's because no one would, 545 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: but I knew that it could be good. So I 546 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: just bet on myself, and I kept my job and 547 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: I saved my money. The people who loved me also 548 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: bettered on me as well. And so now when I 549 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: hear concepts that may be a little bit ahead of 550 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: their time. I give people what I needed, an opportunity 551 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: to be unplugged and present and listen to them and 552 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: listen to what they've done in their past and see 553 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: if I can help them based on what they've done 554 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: all this other work they've done, can they create this 555 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: thing that maybe a little bit ahead of the time 556 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: because people didn't give me the decency of conversation anything 557 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: else there. I didn't know if you were there. Oh yeah, 558 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: that was a drop my oh got you got? You 559 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: were so for Dr Key with any exciting news, the 560 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: things you want to share with us about what's happening next, 561 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: growth and we're grows and our growth, more businesses, more 562 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: amazing villagers who come to support black owned businesses, more 563 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: programming for beyond the marketplace. I'm already gonna put it 564 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: out here, another great opportunity with the Dr Joy and 565 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: all these amazing black women therapists who hold space for 566 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: all of us. But we're just getting started, and I 567 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: look forward to our spreen marketplace, March and her village 568 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: mar But just be patient. We're just getting started in 569 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: the village and we're going to continue growing and getting 570 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: stronger in our purpose in our mission and building an 571 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: ecosystem where sisterhood is real and tangible. And then if 572 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: you need support, you can reach out and it's just 573 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: given to you. I love that. So where can people 574 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: find you online? What's your website? As well as any 575 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: social media handles you want to share? You all please 576 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: follow my amazing, amazing and village market at the Village 577 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: Market a t L on all platforms. Our website is 578 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: ww dot Village Market a t L dot com. You 579 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: can learn about the Village Market. You can learn about 580 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: our programs. Beyond the marketplace. You can sign up for 581 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: meling List. If you're a small business, you can sign 582 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: up to be a vendor. If you just love black 583 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: owned businesses, you can sign up to be a patron. 584 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: But everything is found there and every now and then, 585 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: even on little unplucked from social media. I love to 586 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: drop a gym on Dr Key Hallman on Instagram. I 587 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter. I really just got on there 588 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: to write my little stattus. Take a screenshot and put 589 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: it on Instagram. Right I g is where you can 590 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: see her gems as well as her nature pictures. Absolutely, 591 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Dr K. I really appreciate you 592 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: sharing with us today. Absolutely, thank you, Doc, and I 593 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: love you, love you back. She's amazing right, she is 594 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: truly one of my favorite people. To check out more 595 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: information about Dr Key and to keep up with all 596 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: the great things happening with the Village market a t L, 597 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: visit the show notes at Therapy for Black Girls dot 598 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: com slash dr Key. Don't forget to share your takeaways 599 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: with us on either Twitter or in your I G 600 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: stories using the hashtag tv G in session. And if 601 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: you'll be attending the Women of Power Summit, definitely let 602 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: me know that as well. I'd love to see you there. 603 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for Part two of our series, dropping next Friday, 604 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: where we'll chat with another amazing woman in business. Until then, 605 00:34:42,560 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: take Geke care of yourself. M P.