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No, no, 19 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: it was good. I wanted to make sure I heard you. 20 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: It was like some kind of static situation happening, but 21 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: it's cool now Okay, yeah, no, but I've been great. Good. Well, 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say thank you so much for sharing 23 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: your story on being a survivor from one of the 24 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: most deadly students in the United States history, the post 25 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: nightclub shooting that occur in Atlanta, Florida, on June eleven. Yeah, 26 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: is that you June twelve? The shooting happened at pm mmm, 27 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: because I was like, it was from like two o'clock 28 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: in the morning to like six o'clock. Yeah, by the 29 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: time they got us out of there was like six am, 30 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: six am, but when I looked at the clock, it 31 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: was eight o'clock. But that was when I finally got 32 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: to the hospital and they put me into an actual 33 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: room because I wasn't like this emergency sit area because 34 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: the hospital went on't like a lockdown. So like what 35 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: happened was it's like, let's start from the beginning. Yes, 36 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: so so you're up from Philly. Yes, So what made 37 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: you your cousin and your best friend go to Florida? 38 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: So it was actually, um, it was a vacation. So 39 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: like my family does, like, um, we haven't done one since, 40 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: but like our my family does this like annual vacation 41 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: thing every year, and so what ended up happening was, like, 42 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, my aunt was like, we're going to Orlando. 43 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: It's an easy vacation. And my cousin was actually she 44 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: was graduated from high school that same year, so and 45 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: that with all in that same breath, we were like, 46 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah, vacations in the following week because she graduated 47 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: June three, So we were like, oh yeah, we're going 48 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: on vacation earlier this year. So we had booking you know, 49 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: um condo out there and kissing me and um, you know, 50 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: we just that was our trip because it was an 51 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: easy trip and it was cheaper to do that rather 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: us do our big like us doing a like our 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: regular big trips like cruises and like going over the 54 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: likes of the West Coast and things like that, because um, 55 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: she was going away and then we was just trying 56 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: to get her ready for college without you know, still 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: having fun, without saving he's not also saving a whole 58 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: bunch of money. So we just decided to go on 59 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: do our regular vacation and we went to we were 60 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: going to go to Inlando. We went a few years prior, 61 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: but we were so young, we didn't get a chance 62 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, so now we're growing trying to 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: turn up. Yeah, I was actually twenty years old and 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: my old friend she was twenty and my cousin had 65 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: just thirty team, so we were older now, so we 66 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: could actually do a little bit more so without any restrictions. 67 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: So you know, we were really excited. So, um, I 68 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: actually invited my Wilford to come onto the vacation with 69 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: us because she's never been on a family vacation. So 70 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: we decided to take her because we were like, you know, hey, 71 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 1: like come experiences. We do this every year. We talked 72 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: about it, we showed their pictures from previously, so she 73 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: was just as excited as we were year every year. Um, 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: so we were trying to go, but I was gonna 75 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: act you so pretty this is I understand if I 76 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: wanted to have like a family get together because also 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: she was your cousin was going away for college, so 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: this is probably the last thing that I was gonna 79 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: be able to hang out with each other. Ye before 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: everybody go there separate ways. Yeah, yeah, So did you 81 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: hear about Polst nightclub before or just what's your first 82 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: time going it? Was our first time going. So we're 83 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: happy because we were down there. We did are we 84 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: got there. I think we weren't there for we weren't 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: even there for forty eight hours. Let um. I think 86 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: when we got down there, we were like, hey, look 87 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: give us like our first day, like our first full 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: day there. So um, that night we were just like, yo, 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: let's want something to do. My cousin was like, let's 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: find something to do. I said, I really want to 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: stay in the house. I worked over time. I'm tired, 92 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: so you know, she was like, no, we gotta do something. 93 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: We're on vacation. This sad too, sir, Sorry, do you 94 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: know what? You're right? So we was my cousin and 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: her mom decided to go and google some places to go, 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: and what ended up happening was, um, they end up 97 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: coming across the club. My cousin was like, you listen, 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: let's go to the club. And then no, at home, 99 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: we went to the Clouds over at home, we always 100 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: go to the clubs here. So um, we were like, 101 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, let's go to the club. So we found 102 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: posts before we got there. We didn't know that it 103 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: was lgbt Q plus Positive club. We didn't know that. 104 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: So what happened was and we didn't care like that. 105 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: But don't best though, they are the best clubs. I 106 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: tell people that all the time because I hate going 107 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: the regular clubs and the girls being there looking cute 108 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: but just want to sit there. I'm not I didn't 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: come spend this money to get into pain this cup 110 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: of charge to come sit in the corner and look que. 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: That's just not what it is for me. So you know, 112 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: we're like to dance, I'll sweat my hair, are all 113 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff like that's that's just who we were. 114 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: So um my cousin's like, let's go here, and they 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: gotta get ratings on social media, I mean on like 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: a Google search engine. They like they got good ratings. 117 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm a r bet. So we get there. 118 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: We were able to get there. The cover charge was 119 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: like ten bucks or something like there was something. Yeah, 120 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: So it was like we ran in there, but they, 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, to make sure because we want twenty one. 122 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: So we couldn't get no drinks. So what they did 123 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: was they like stamped our hands with these big stuff 124 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: In a minute, oh my god, they like scaped our 125 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: hands with like these big, huge like markers, and it 126 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: was like excess, like big exces marker, and they were like, 127 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: I have no drinking for you know, there was like 128 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: did y'all there was like you know, when we got 129 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: in the door to late, the woman at the door 130 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: was just like, you guys are so pretty, don't come 131 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: in here and starting no trouble. Y'all look like y'all 132 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: moved to the neighborhood and all kinds of stuff. But 133 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: we told him he was like, we actually are. We're 134 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: coming off a vacation. Um, my old friend. She actually 135 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: ended up getting in with one of the young ladies 136 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: she like a plus one ticket from because it wasn't 137 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: a bit that night. We didn't know it was like 138 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: a night or something. Yeah it was. Yeah, it was 139 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: late at night and she had like a plus one ticket. 140 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: So when she got the plus one ticket, we actually 141 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: went into them went into the club. She got in 142 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: for free, so she didn't actually have to pay her 143 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: cover charge was like the NUS that like. So but 144 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: then like the girl was like, I can't end up 145 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: coming by myself when our friends like you know, flaked 146 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: on me, So you know, I'm just gonna give it away. 147 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: So that's how we got there. We did for her 148 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: for a little while and then like you know, she 149 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of went her separates and I think she went 150 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: into somebody in the club like you know that. So 151 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: when y'all was there, I was having fun, Like, yeah, 152 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: we had a freaking blaged because I think I saw pictures. 153 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: It was like mad people there. Yeah, so that night 154 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: was in terms like you know, the younger terms lit Okay, 155 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: we had so much fun. It was and it had 156 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: like different sections in the club. So like at one 157 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: point we were like watching like the Joy act, like 158 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: the Drags performed on stage and do like the impersonations 159 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. I think they had j Lo there that night, 160 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, girl, yes, we had so much fun. So 161 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: they had like the impersonated in that night. She was dancing. 162 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean it was fabulous, Like we loved it. So 163 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: we was there saying it all like you know, like 164 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: the get guys and everything. We had a fall. I 165 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: actually still got something. I got their numbers to this day, 166 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: like we had a ball. So then like that was 167 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: one part of the club. They played like Lastino music. 168 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: If you went in the bank, they paid like play 169 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: like the Island and Caribbean music. On the patio area, 170 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: and then if you went into the other side, they 171 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: had like like regular music, like the little mo stuff 172 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: that you hear like right now, like Hardy b and 173 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: all the other stuff. Like they had all of that playing. 174 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: So it was literally like a fabulous night, Like we 175 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: had awesome, awesome, awesome time. We danced until our legs 176 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: turned it and everything. So then two hours later y'all 177 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: decided to leave. And what happened between or after that time, 178 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: So what end that happening was my old friend she 179 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: had came up to me and asked me, if you 180 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: know how will we get home? I said, well, I 181 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: was just going to pay for a ride share to 182 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: go home. So it was about thirty bucks. I wasn't complaining. 183 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: We were in the house, it was like thirty minutes. 184 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: It was like thirty minutes. So we're gonna pay for 185 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: a ride here to get us back over to where 186 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: we were. So, um, the Ryan Shares. We when we 187 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: ordered the uber the moment that I stepped to the 188 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: side of the order the uber, because that's how she 189 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: is when she actually get home. You know, we just 190 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: hear like these popping noises and like we were like 191 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: we're in the world. So at first nobody thought nothing 192 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: another but then the state they we we figured out 193 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: they were gunshots were from Philly, like you know that 194 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: she wasn't This wasn't nothing new for us, but we 195 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: was like what in the same name, Like what is 196 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: going on it? So you know, we were actually like 197 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: we're here, the the noises, the gun noises and everything, 198 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: and you hear the entire here like my like you 199 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: hear everybody starts screaming, and like my friend and my 200 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: cousin like they like, you know, they dropped to the 201 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: ground and I'm like, I'm looking at them in like 202 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: confusion because I'm like, what is going on? Like we 203 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: I really did not understand what was going on. I 204 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: thought this was some something part of the song. Because again, 205 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: it was like three or four DJs in the house, 206 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: so it's like it was like super loud. It was 207 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: super loud. So when you didn't hear the noises, but 208 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: when you heard the people scream, that was the confirmation. 209 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: So my old friend and my cousin they ended up 210 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: running out. The crazy thing about that is that they 211 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: ended up running out of the side exit door that 212 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: we were standing right next to. We were there the 213 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: majority of them, like towards the end of the night, 214 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: which is pretty much the majority of the night, and 215 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: like they ended up running out and I was still 216 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: standing in confusion, like when is going on? So I 217 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: knew it got real when the gun shot started to 218 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: fly past me, because now I'm starting to feel it 219 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: and you see people running into areas and I'm like, 220 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, and my I remember looking to my 221 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: right and my cousin and my old friend is yelling 222 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: like te we gotta go, we gotta go, and I'm like, 223 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: oh my life. Everything was like a slow motion for me. Um, 224 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: you probably had like a body experience, like what is 225 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: going on? I did. I definitely did. I definitely did. Um. 226 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: It was completely like naturally yeah, and like you know, again, 227 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I'm from Philly. This 228 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: is nothing new to me. So we used to be 229 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: when we were here. The gun shots. It's so sad. 230 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: But when you hear the gun shots in Philly, the 231 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: first thing, you sit there and just shake your head. 232 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: At first, you may duck a little bit, but if 233 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: you don't see it coming your way, you're just gonna 234 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: stand there. You're not gonna move about it. Yeah, and 235 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: that's the sad part about it. So it was just like, 236 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really like confused with when they 237 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: were like yelling in my face and I came back 238 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: to myself. I ended up turning around and running into 239 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: the bathroom store and not running out the side and 240 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: the door. And it was like, it's such a frantic 241 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: because it caught me off guard, Like I didn't really 242 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: expect us to like end up in a bathroom stall. 243 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: I'm this exit door has been sending by us all 244 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: night and people have was going in and out of 245 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: it all night, like you know, the smoke, cigarettes, whatever, 246 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: and like I did not run out of that door. 247 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Like that was one of the parts that stuck with 248 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: me for a very very very very you're right now 249 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: running out the door, Um I do. I still do, 250 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: and I did, but it's no longer a thing where 251 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: it was. It's hurts. It hurts me more like at 252 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: one point I went through survivor skill like that that 253 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: was a heavy burden and carry I got blamed for 254 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: my cousin's death, so I know we're gonna I got 255 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: some questions about that too. Um so you went into 256 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: the bathroom your cousin and your best friend went outside. 257 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: So when did they come back inside? When they came back, right, 258 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: So that's what I was saying when they came back 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: and ring and yelling in my face like TV gotta go. 260 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: When I talked to right and ran into the bathroom, 261 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: so they were behind me. So that that's how we 262 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: ended up in the bathroom stall. So I know the bathroom. 263 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean if we all met the club, so the 264 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: bathrooms like regular sized bathroom. And after watching several of 265 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: your interviews, you was like it was like fifteen people 266 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: packed in one bathroomd yes. And it was then they 267 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: called it the head to catch because that's the big 268 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: stall the bathroom, right, so you gott moving maneuver around. 269 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: We were in that particular stall, and it was a 270 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: whole bunch of us like land on top of each other. Damn. 271 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: And then at this point you, your cousin and your 272 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: best friend was shot. Where were you all shot at? 273 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: Because I know you were shot in your stomach right again, 274 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: my stomach and my arm, So my stomach in my arm. 275 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: What ended up happening, It was we were in the 276 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: when we were in into the bathroom, you could hear 277 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: it was a guy that was holding the door, so 278 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: like it was a couple of it was a guy 279 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: holding the door. We was all in the bedroom like 280 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: like trying to get everybody be quiet because we wasn't sure. 281 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: My old friend she was texting at the time, like 282 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, like she was snapchatt and she was like, 283 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: this is not really happening right now. See, we cannot 284 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: believe this is where she was like that you was 285 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: the fireworks to try to get us out of the 286 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: clouds were already lading. We was not like none of 287 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: us ticket serious at all. We were saying like blissing, 288 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: like having so much fun like so we really didn't 289 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: pay no attention. So she was like, you know, I 290 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: can't believe that they're really doing this. But then we 291 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: heard the gun shots getting so much closer. So then 292 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: that's when we were like trying to get people to 293 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: like be quiet. You heard everybody like saying so because 294 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: we were the last people in the stall, we were 295 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: the first people you saw. So it was all three 296 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: of us laying on top of other people. And then 297 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: it was the guy holding the store and it was 298 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: a lady in the corner of it, and you could 299 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: hear the gun shots getting louder and louder and louder, 300 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: and they started to sound like they were like right 301 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: in the bathroom at that moment, but they weren't. When 302 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: they did come into the bathroom, he kicked You hear 303 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: him break the locks off the doors. So he kicks 304 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: the stall doors. You know they had the watchlocks. He 305 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: kicked the stall door locked off, and he shot and 306 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: killed people in the first two stalls because it was 307 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: only three stalls in that bathroom. Was here to cap 308 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: stoving and two small, like small regular ones. He kicked 309 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: the doors open and started to shoot those in the stalls, 310 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: and you could see the smoke in the bathroom. I mean, 311 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: it was insane. And then he got to the second 312 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: stall and he did the same thing. But when he 313 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: got to the second stall before he could get to 314 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: our stall, because it was somebody holding the door. Um, 315 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, he was trying to open the door. But 316 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: all you're hearing at me and say it's dead my 317 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: guns gym. So we was like I looked at my cousin, 318 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I look at my friend. We're looking at each other. 319 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: We're standing back. I know she's seen me seeing huh. 320 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: So because y'all thinking the same thing, because we're thinking 321 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: the same thing. When he said his gun was g in. 322 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: The first ranction was to jump him. Let's run bun, 323 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: let's bum Russian. But when they died, the door got 324 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: the memo of what we were supposed to be doing. 325 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: He was like, when he opened the door, I'm like, 326 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna bumb rushroom. We go bum brush them. 327 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: We didn't not know that man had another gun, and 328 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: that's how we got shot. But my girlfriend, where she 329 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: was laying, how she ended up with the bullets to 330 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: her legs is because her legs were under the other 331 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: stall and he was just randomly shooting. So how she 332 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: was shot she's laying, Diana. Yeah, she was in a 333 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: diagonal position, so that's how she ended up getting shot 334 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: in her legs. I'm seeing it right in my head. Really, yeah, 335 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: it was. It was definitely a situation. So it was 336 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: just like it was unbelievable though, like this is not 337 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: something that like everyday person would experience, Like this is 338 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: something you see in the movies, like exactly, So you know, 339 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: she was laying a certain way, that is how she 340 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: got shot in her legs. When the guy opened the art. 341 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: When he got finally got our stall door open, he 342 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: shot me and everybody else that was laid in in 343 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: front of me. When he got done shooting my cousin 344 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: and myself, we jumped up and closed the Death from 345 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: store door. So like when we went to slam the 346 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: door shut. Um. She I was like, you know, I 347 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 1: stood there and I remember standing straight up and I 348 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: stuck my nail, like my hand inside of my bullet 349 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: move because I remember feeling that pressure. Because when I 350 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: got hit, it was like I couldn't breathe. It hurt it, 351 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: but it felt more like pressure rather than pain. I 352 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: had more pressure than pain. It was like somebody dropped 353 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: something extremely heavy on me. So when I stood up, 354 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: I stuck my hand and the thing and it like 355 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: in my like wound, and I ran to close the door. 356 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: She's holding the door. She said, please stop shooting your 357 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: you're being weird. You're being weird. Please stop shooting. And 358 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: we just closed the door and he never he didn't 359 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: try to budget move it, cooking open nothing. Um, but 360 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: left that out. That was a point where you said, 361 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: because you sense that he said why he was doing this, 362 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: like he was telling y'all. Yeah, he did. So that 363 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: was later on down the line after we didn't laid 364 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: there for about maybe three hours, because I know she 365 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: was negotiating with him, but you also said something that 366 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: y'all was kind of looking at you to, like staring 367 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: at each other. Yeah, So what happened was at that 368 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: moment um my present and myself, we were laying there 369 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: for a while. We were talking to each other and 370 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: think that's where you got that from. And she was like, 371 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here. I wish we never 372 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: came here. She was like kind of blame herself for 373 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: coming in mad, like you know and all that, and 374 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: I said, don't blame myself. Were getting out of here. 375 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: So I'm like, even if I gotta get myself up 376 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: to get out of here, we're getting out of here. 377 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Anybody who knows me like you messed with me in mind, 378 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: I was like, we have a problem. So and it 379 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: was like it was really hard to know that it 380 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: was nothing that I could really do for her, so 381 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: but like in my mind I was gonna get up 382 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: and fight this man like that. That's mentally what I 383 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: was going through. So what happened was we were laying 384 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: there for a while, he came in and he was like, 385 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, he goes into this ran about how he 386 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: does have a problem with black people. He knows what 387 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: we've been through with slavery, and how he is doing 388 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: this for his country and because they're filling people over 389 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: in Iraq and on kiting. He started speaking on his 390 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: nine sense about that, and you know he was you know, 391 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: he pledged the Islam and it was it was it 392 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: was a thing. Like we was just you know, he 393 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: asked this, so we knew about that shooting that occurred 394 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: in South Carolina, um it and we were just like yeah, 395 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: So we were just not to piss him off. But 396 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: like phones and stuff was going like ringing. They just 397 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: kept bringing and he was like, who phone is that? 398 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: He was like, it's something out there, so fat that's 399 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: out there. It was out there. So we were trying 400 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: not to make him mad at than what he was. 401 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: But you can hear that his gun, the gun that 402 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: he originally came in with, was completely jammed. So you 403 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: hear him rustling with it trying to get it on Jim. 404 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean the gun was completely broken at this point 405 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: because he was really fighting with it and he couldn't 406 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: get in a jam, and it was it was a 407 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: situation and like you know, being in there and like 408 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm I remember grabbing my old friend's leg and like 409 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: you know, trying to make sure she was okay, and 410 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: I think I grabbed too hard. It was hurt, and 411 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: so she just put her hand up like I'm okay. 412 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: And I remember looking over at a young man who 413 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: I believe his name was Tevin Um. He was like, 414 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, because the guy tried to come through the 415 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: store doing that, the craziest thing I could have done 416 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: was putting my hand up and slamming the door shut. 417 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why or what made me do that, 418 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: but I just was trying to him coming in and 419 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: out of that bathroom. So I just slammed the bathroom 420 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: door shut, and the dit remember him looking at me 421 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: and saying a good job or whatever. And then after that, 422 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, that was really it for everybody in the store. 423 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: And we was in there for so long. People fell asleep, 424 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: they were snoring. What, yes, it was it was real 425 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: like that's how long we were in there. And he 426 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. He just sat 427 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: there in the bathroom. He was on the phone with 428 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: the police officers. They were trying to negotiate with him. 429 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: He didn't have him on speaker, but he was talking, 430 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta stop bothering my country. And I 431 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: read back and all this other stuff and like we 432 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: were like, oh wow, like this man show you specifically 433 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: come to a gate club to prove that point, Like 434 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's like none of that you think about 435 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: it in hindsight, like you you came always to a 436 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: gate club to do that. So it was then we 437 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: found out later than the down line and I heard 438 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: he was yeah, because I heard doing some research that 439 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: he was going to the club frequently. Yeah, he was 440 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: a frequent visitor. We heard that too. We don't even 441 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: how true that is. We don't live there, so we 442 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: don't so yeah, so like when we heard that, I 443 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not surprised because specifically he came on 444 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: this night. So but he's also but they said there's 445 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: all people some of the like the clubgoers would say, 446 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: like you know, they they've seen him visit the club before. 447 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: This isn't his first rodeo there. Yeah, so like you know, 448 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: again we don't know because we don't live there. But 449 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: we also as we was doing research as like you know, 450 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: we got better than an't grow like him through the story. 451 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, we started to look into like why, like 452 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: what made him do this? And he was you know, 453 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: they were saying like his his family had a problem 454 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: with good people. Um, they were saying that we um, 455 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: he was gating himself. It was under cover and like 456 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: a whole it was like a whole thing. But again 457 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: we don't know that to be true. We don't notice. Man, 458 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: we was just there on a whim and got hurt. 459 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: Like that's what that was for us. We just wanted 460 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: trying to understand how they this declared. The sad thing 461 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: about this entire process is my cousin even though she 462 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: was a basketball like phenomenon, like she was amazing, like 463 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, even though that was her thing, she also 464 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: was going to school for criminology and she wanted to 465 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: study war criminals do the things that they do. God 466 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: doing that like not being able to do that. Well, 467 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: I want to touch on this part because I noticed 468 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: you said that your cousin was on top of you 469 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: and you were saying how like you felt her weight 470 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: getting heavy? Yeah, so that was a um so what 471 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: in't that pappen? It was My cousin was saying her 472 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: back was total. She wanted to move. I told her 473 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: now she wanted to get up, and I kept telling 474 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: her now when she was like my back room, and 475 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I said, if you move, you gotta be crazy quiet 476 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: like you. It's it's gotta be you gotta I don't 477 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: even want to hear you. You gotta be crazy quiet. 478 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: We was laying by this point, we was laying in 479 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: like a blood everywhere. The bathroom was completely black and red. 480 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: Bad to y'all. Body hurting because y'all was in the 481 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: bathroom for a couple of hours. Believe it or not, 482 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: we didn't feel anything at this point. If he came 483 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: and shot us again, like you know, for me, if 484 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: he came and shot me again, I wouldn't felt it. 485 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: That's how That's how long we've been sitting there. So 486 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: what ended up occurring at that point, So my cousin 487 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: she got on my back. I let her get switched 488 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: positions on my back and she laying on top of me. 489 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: So I told her to be really quiet, and I 490 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: remember reaching back and grabbed her and she kept tapping 491 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: me like you know, I'm sorry, I'm good. So like 492 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: my hand stayed back there most of the time to 493 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: hold her because I just wanted to make sure she 494 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: was sitting where she was at. So and I'm just like, 495 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, not being able to move because we don't 496 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: stay in this one position. And there was actually and 497 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: part of the reason why my legs fell asleep was 498 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: that there was a lady that was behind me who 499 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: was laying on my legs, and that was part of 500 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: me the while they were sleeping. On top of the 501 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: fact that the bullet didn't probably paralyzed me for that moment, 502 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: so um, but there's somebody else that was laying on 503 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: top of me. And I remember reaching back and grabbing 504 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: my cousin and I just kept tapping her bridge to you. 505 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: She was okay, yeah. So then I remember because now 506 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: at this point, it's just me laying in front of 507 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: the stall. So you know, how like we're go into something. 508 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: Most public platforms, like they had the stall, you could 509 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: just see people's feet. You could see him pacing back 510 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: and forth in the bathroom, just casing, trying to get 511 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: that gun and jam. But he would stop doing that 512 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: for a minute. I think he would do it a game. 513 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: And it was just a bunch of weird stuff. Um 514 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: so uh and what asked he was doing that? He um. 515 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: I remember him looking down and he just looked under 516 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: the stall and he laughed like you know, he kind 517 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: of chuckled a little bit. He was like oh yeah, 518 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: like as if this was something that he was used 519 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: to doing. So yeah, so like him looking didn't me 520 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: dead in my face? My mom mos reaction was to 521 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: sit there and play dead like I died with my 522 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: eyes open like that. I just getting moved. I didn't blank. 523 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: I don't even breathe, um because like the fear was 524 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: he was gonna shoot me in my face, like yeah, 525 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: you know, I just had to sit there and you know, 526 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: he just was like old gear and it just it's 527 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: definitely a situation that again, like I said, naturally everyday person, 528 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: but this is something you were seeing a movie, like 529 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: a scary movie or like something like that. This is 530 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: this was never something to um no, but I couldn't 531 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: even imagine, like you even you're telling the story and 532 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: just thinking about when I was in my research, I 533 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: was thinking about when it actually happened, and when I 534 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: first heard about it, I was like, yo, like this 535 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: is fucking bucked, Like this is scary. Yeah, and so 536 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: like I never thought I would every like, so it's 537 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: crazy they save your history repeats itself. My father was 538 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: shot at twenty one, twenty one the stomach and you 539 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: were showing your stomach and I was shoting my stomach 540 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: it twenty today, was saying, like, you know, my dad 541 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: was like, it's crazy how history repeats itself, and like 542 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: you know you always think, like you know, this would 543 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: never happened to me. I would never have to be 544 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: a person telling this story. Um, and you know, having 545 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: to share my story and just understand. I clicked, like 546 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: you don't understand that this is something that's a part 547 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: of my life and it doesn't make my life. So 548 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: it was either sit in one space or don't or 549 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: do or you sit in on stage of that and 550 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: I chose not to because, like I went through, it 551 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: was a whirlwin after that situation, it wasn't just post 552 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: itself m hm. So it ended up being a situation 553 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: where I was being blamed for my cousin's dad, and yeah, 554 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: that was that was kind of messed up. But before 555 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: we go, I don't ask you one my question about 556 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: to standoff because I know that the shooter and the police. 557 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: We're standing off for like three three hours and then 558 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: eventually they killed them. Yes, so it wasn't three hours. 559 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: It was a few minutes, like they keep saying, yeah, 560 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: three out three because that's how how long it was 561 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: before the police came in. Um. So what happened was 562 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: we as we're laying there, it's like crazy quiet, like 563 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: you can hear a pen, mice, everything, um, anything that 564 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: would hit that floor, you can hear it and it 565 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: would vibrate through the whole floor because that's how quiet 566 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: it was. So what happened was we hear these bombs 567 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: go off. Now you hear these like explosions, so you're like, whoa, 568 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: Like at this point you hear people like, oh my god, 569 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: like you're here to heavy breathing. Now you hear it 570 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: like it's a lot. So you hear this this explosion, 571 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: and then you hear a second one and it gets 572 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: much closer. So now we are extremely scared because we 573 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: don't know where is this coming from. Right now, this 574 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: man was definitely in the bathroom when he was on 575 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: the phone with the police officers talking about how he 576 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: had enough explosives to light a city block. So we 577 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: were thinking he now detonated these bombs, but we were 578 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I quickly realized it wasn't him because he started to 579 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: run around like he was in frantic inside of the bathroom. 580 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: So what happened was he before before they let off 581 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: that third explosion? You hear them say after the second one, 582 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, anybody who can hear this or hear us, 583 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: please get close to the wall. And you anybody who 584 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: could hear move, see, breathe anything you heard the move, 585 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: get it because close to the wall as you possibly can, 586 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: because that's how they were coming into the building. Well, 587 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: that third explosion just so happened to be our bathrooms, 588 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: thore and the third explosion. When that third explosion came, 589 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: you see him run straight into the bathroom with us. 590 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: What he ran straight into the bathroom with us? And 591 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: what happened was he I don't like this this part. 592 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: This part is where it gets really touchy because it's like, 593 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, I was in disbelief for a long time. 594 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: So somebody must have moved in the stall and you 595 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: heard him say hey you and he shoot three more times. 596 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: This is the part where you're asking me about my 597 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: cousin's body getting heavy. That was that moment, So in 598 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: my mind he didn't shoot her. I think she passed out, 599 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: but I know he shot three more times, but my 600 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: mind is done doing something else. He didn't shoot her 601 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: like she was alive with me the whole time. When 602 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: he after he shot killed her, that explosion happened and 603 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: he came running out of the stall with him and 604 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: the cops started getting engaging into the fire like the 605 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: whole like, you know, back and forth, And at that moment, 606 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: it was just like wow, you know what I mean, 607 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: because now it's bullets ricocheting off her places and we're 608 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: right there, so I get burnt up. The bullets is 609 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: flying skinned my skin and it hurt, like you know, 610 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to hide my arms and stuff, trying from 611 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: getting burnt because I'm feeling that they're hot. So um. 612 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: After that, after you hear him that, you hear him 613 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: yell like he's down, he's dying, He's down, they come 614 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: and and they start pulling people out the store. I 615 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: remember hearing my old friends screaming to the top of 616 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: her loans because they had to snatch her up. And 617 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: because obviously she can't walk, she does no longer has 618 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: a knee, so you know, they snatched her right up 619 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: and they put her they pull her out of the store. 620 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: I pulled get I pulled myself off the floor because 621 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: they wanted us to put our hands up. I pulled 622 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: myself off the floor and I flipped my cousin around 623 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: because I just kept saying, God, you're gonna give me 624 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: the strength to get off this floor. And I got 625 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: up and I pulled my cousin up because now the 626 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: bear froom. The packs bus that, so now the floor 627 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: is filling up. So I flipped her up and pick 628 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: her head up, and I'm shaking there like Carri, please 629 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: get up, get up, get up there here we can 630 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: believe we can leave. Get up. And she's breathing still. 631 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: And the guy that was sitting in front of me, 632 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: who was whose name is Richard e he Um, he 633 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: was like, calm down, calm down. He was so calm 634 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: it was freaky crazy. But he's been in that soll 635 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: the whole time with us and he was never shocked, 636 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: so he was like, calm down, calm down. He was like, 637 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: she's still breathing. It's okay, she's still breathing. So in 638 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm the happiest person because I might earn 639 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: she's breathing, but out I need heard of respond to him, right. 640 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: So I'm pulling her and I said that, you know. 641 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: They were like, can you get up? And I'm like no, 642 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: but can you take my Please take my sister, because 643 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: that's what I kept saying at night, Please take my sister. 644 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: Please take my sister. Thinking in my mind, if I 645 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: tell him that this is my sibling, they move quicker, 646 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: even though it's just still my my blood relative. But 647 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: like you know, if I figure if I say that 648 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: like as much, they will understand. So I'm trying to 649 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: get them to respond to me, like, you know, please 650 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: take my sister, like we're gonna get her, and I'm 651 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: pulling her because I'm not letting her go. So they 652 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: had to like try me off of her in order 653 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: for me to come out the wall. So they pulled 654 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: me out of the wall. I remember them having to 655 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: lift my legs because I physically couldn't move them. I 656 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: remember them pulling me out of the wall, listing my legs, 657 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: and what happened was that they after they pulled my 658 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: legs out of the wall, I kept telling that my 659 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: phone dropped out of my bra because I had my phone, 660 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: my I d um everything and my bra said please 661 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: get my phone, get my phone, and it felt it 662 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: was like we'll get it, we'll get it, um and 663 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: I at the time said please get my sister. I 664 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: kept trying to turn around, and I remember them pulling 665 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: my arms like they were kind of dragging me a 666 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: bit because I couldn't walk, and I said I'm going 667 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: to pass out. I said, I'm going to pass out. 668 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: They were like you no, no, you can't pass out 669 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: on the Please don't pass out on it. And I 670 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: remember just closing my eyes for that quick moment and 671 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: falling out and like they were carrying me. They had 672 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: to sling me so that they slung me onto a 673 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: pickup trunk. And when they did that, it was like 674 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: I instantly like jumped back out of it. I'm just like, 675 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: get my sister. And I tried to climb over the 676 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: truck as it was moving, but like nobody, you can't 677 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: do that, and like you got people in the back 678 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: trying to grab me, and I'm like, get off me, 679 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: Please get my sister. So like I'm trying to climb 680 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: off the truck. So then the truck gets us to 681 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: wherever we ended up. I don't even remember where we 682 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: were going to the club now. I still couldn't tell 683 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: you what street they turned down to put us where. 684 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't know where I was at. I just remember 685 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: them pulling us out, and I remember saying, camera people outside. 686 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: They cut all my clothes off outside because they were 687 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where all my bleeding was coming from. 688 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: So like they cut white pants and I was like, 689 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: my god, yeah, they were prestining white, like a pure 690 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: white pants. They were no longer white that moment. So um, 691 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: they cut all my clothes off outside and I remember 692 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: seeing the camera people and I said, tell them to 693 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: stop recording. This is not a recording moment, like, and 694 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: they were like, you know, you can see the police 695 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: run over there and try to get them, like enough 696 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: was enough. You know, they were news people, so you 697 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: can see them trying to stop them from a court 698 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: in the chaos, and I remember them pulling me into 699 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: the thing and I can't. I just kept saying, please 700 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: get my sister, Please get my sister, Please get my sister. 701 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: That's all I kept saying, Like this it that's all 702 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: I said, Please get my sister. I was like, I 703 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: hear one of my sisters. She's screaming, which they had 704 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: she was on the other side, and I remember that 705 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: I never saw her, but I knew who it was. 706 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: They had my old friend at the time. I knew 707 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: who it was because I'm like, that's one of them, 708 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: where's the other? Want to need the other one? I 709 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: need the other one. They're like, we're gonna get her. 710 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna get her, and you could just see like 711 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: the hurt and like the E M T s faces 712 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: because it was just like them looking at me and 713 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm just like please, and I'm like I'm grabbing them 714 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: like please, like I can't. I don't know what to do. 715 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: And do you think at that moment that you knew 716 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: that she didn't make it? No? No, you know what 717 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: what secured that for me was when they all and 718 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: said they found her and she was at the corner's 719 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: office or the where the more, Yeah, the corners off 720 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: yet that that's when I figured her. Let's figure that out. 721 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: But that's but I still didn't believe it then because 722 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: it was like, we can't find her, and I told 723 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: them people in the hospital, but if y'all didn't find her, 724 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna get up and do it myself because 725 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: I felt like they didn't know what they were doing. 726 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: So I want to try to get up. You had 727 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: to see how they bought mushed into this room to 728 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: stop me from getting out of his dead So and 729 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like, y'all not moving fast enough for me, 730 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: Like y're telling me that the girl's dead. This is bull, 731 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: this is so. Then this whole process was just you know, 732 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: I get in there, and then after sitting in this 733 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: this this room for hours, hours, I mean hours on end. Um, 734 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: I had the lay flat. They didn't allow me to 735 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: stand up. Um, they didn't allow me to do anything. Uh, 736 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: they didn't want me to sit straight, like sit up 737 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: on an angle. Um, I had to stay flat. So 738 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: I've been laying there for hours, looking at the ceiling 739 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: and blackness, and I remember being poked with a bunch 740 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: of needles. Um they sent me through the MRA machine. 741 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: That was the first time I ever been in you know, 742 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: that was the first time I've ever been in one 743 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: of those. And um, they they they kept sticking me 744 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: with these needles. I remember my there was this needle 745 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: they stick you it before they stick you inside of 746 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: the MRA. Before they were just they just needed to 747 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: see where the boom where the bullet wound went, because 748 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: they knew it was there. They just need to see 749 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: where they were. And so that's or at least that's 750 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: what they explained to me later down in the hospital, 751 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: like down a lot in the hospital. Um so after that, 752 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: I just I finally got to see my mom and 753 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: she just sat on the bed and I said, all 754 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: like I asked, was where was they at? There was 755 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: nothing else to talk about. I just want to know 756 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: where they were. I could care less. I was fine. 757 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: I just want to know where my cousin was and 758 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: where my old friend at the time was. I just 759 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: wanted to know what they were. I said, they bored 760 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: her here, but I don't know where she is. And 761 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: MYLNG was like, I think they transferred her to a 762 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: different hospital, but they still hanging down Care. It was 763 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: like there too. A day went by and that's when 764 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: we found out Care didn't make it. I watched a 765 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: lot of your interviews, and UM, I mean this, this 766 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: story because I touched on your cousin was really heartbreaking, 767 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: and I felt like you thought you were responsible for 768 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: her death. I did, Why why is that? Well that's 769 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: what survivor's give is, right, So what it was is there, 770 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm like I shouldn't let her move, I should have 771 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: been I felt like I should have did a lot more. Again, 772 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm from really and like you messed with me and 773 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: mind as we have a problem. So how anybody who 774 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: knew me knew I was a fire cracker, so like 775 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: you can't there were certain things, there were certain limits 776 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: that you couldn't cross with me without me blowing up. 777 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: So she just like me and not being able to 778 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: do anything at that moment was a lot on me. 779 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: That was a lot of pressure with me, and it 780 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: was something I couldn't sleep, I didn't eat, I didn't 781 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: do anything, I didn't go anywhere, Like it was really 782 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: it was a lot of pressure with me and I 783 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: had I took that and I guess, you know, her 784 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: family was just needed someone to blame. But yeah, you know, 785 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: so it didn't make it no better when they were 786 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: blaming me for because they stopped talking to you. Oh yeah, 787 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: oh yeah, what's the whole story about that? But I'm 788 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: a digressive on that. They didn't just start speaking to me, 789 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: But that was a whole another process. Oh, that type 790 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: of process. It was a whole another process. They didn't 791 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: just stopped breaking to me. Somebody just to give you 792 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: a piece of it. Somebody, I guess later down a 793 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: lot of somebody babilized her car, spring painted it, read, 794 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: bust out the windows. And the instant thing was to 795 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: blame us. But the night that that happened, I wasn't 796 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: even in Philadelphia mm hm hm. So that it was 797 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: a process, but that's just a piece of it. That's 798 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: not all left it. I went through a World winner thing. 799 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: Ain't know what's so funny? When, um, do I want 800 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: to interview him? I don't want touching your family business 801 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: because this is you know, it's a private situation. But 802 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: I know. I was watching one of the interviews and 803 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: I can see how her mom was looking at you, 804 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: and I can tell that she felt a way. Yeah, 805 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: everybody said, everybody said that. And she was telling one 806 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: of her aunts that, um, I don't understand how she 807 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: was with her. She didn't do anything. And then one 808 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: of the aunts was around again from Philly. There's a 809 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: lot more than I know that a lot of people 810 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: don't think I would know, but um, she was going 811 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: around telling people around here that she should have pulled 812 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: her out of the wall with her and all this 813 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: other stuff. Yeah, but I think people need to also 814 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: understand and realize, like when you're any type of situation, 815 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're gonna do, you know what 816 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I need that it's easier for people to 817 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: be like, well, I usually you that did that, But 818 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: when you're in that extra moment, you don't know how 819 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: your body gonna respond to that ship Like, that's a 820 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: scary as situation, you know what I'm saying. And I 821 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: think it was honorable that your cousin came back to 822 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: make sure you're good, because that was something that we 823 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: would that I would have done, but see there was 824 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: we would have. I wasn't in the right state. That's 825 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: why I went through that process, that sam virus guilt. 826 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: That's why I went through that because a lot of 827 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: people didn't know that I was, like, you know, in 828 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: the type of state where I'm like, I was just 829 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: completely confused. I didn't know. It wasn't like I would 830 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: have allowed it to happened to her, And the fact 831 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: that they thought that I did showed me how they 832 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: really felt. And like I learned down the law let 833 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: it down a line that it took something like that 834 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: for me to understand who they truly were. It took 835 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: them to lose their daughter, and like, we we don't 836 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: beef now, I just don't. We're just not just because 837 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: I understand they lost a daughter and actually him, because 838 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: I haven't been in the experience. But I just didn't 839 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: like how everything went about. When they was blaming you 840 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 1: for what happened to her daughter. Everybody said that. Everybody 841 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: said that, oh, you had to see it, when, um, 842 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: when I did the I'm sure you've seen me so yeah. 843 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: So when I put that out there that I was 844 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: blamed for her death, yeah, I mean that started a 845 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: whole heap of trouble too, untikeaping Reil and I was like, yes, 846 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: like it was not your fault, you know, I'm just saying, Yeah, 847 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: she said, for giving them for who they may not know, 848 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: for who they may yeah, what they do, Yeah, and 849 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: for what they do. And that's what she told me. 850 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: There was a lot of stuff that I wish she 851 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: would have put out there on camera, but they had 852 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: to make sure they touched on everyone that was in 853 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: that series. Um so, but it was a lot more 854 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: than who told me too, as well as leave them 855 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: where they are many people where they yeah, and leave 856 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: them And she told me that and so ended up 857 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: turning what turned out, what what ended up happening was 858 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: that with that well, she also she said to me, 859 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: you just have that. You gotta you gotta keep you, 860 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: gotta stay strong. I'm just continue to go. She said, 861 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: your cousin loved you, and just know that. And like 862 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: I know that, I knew that I would. There was 863 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that she didn't love me. 864 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: But it was getting so bad. I was questioning her too. 865 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: And she's dead and gone and that and that's the 866 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: part where a lot of people did not understand. I 867 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: was questioning her too, and she's dead and going, so 868 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: and I can't only imagine questions like why you're not me? 869 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: Or why did you? Like? Yeah, like it's so because 870 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: I be watching a certain stuff and like doing reaching 871 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: stuff and like vinus, remorse is a real thing. It's 872 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: a real thing and when you experience something like that. 873 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: Until you experience it, you'll never understand it. It's a 874 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: real thing. But you'll never understand that process unless it 875 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: is something that you go through. And I'm definitely a 876 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: product of that, like you never understand until it shoot 877 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: and you really being mad that they're no longer here. Yeah, 878 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: I was, Oh, I was high, it said. It was 879 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: just like you know, it was like and why do 880 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: I have to go through this? Like what did I 881 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: do so bad? But it was all a part of 882 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: my journey and I learned that later than the line. 883 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: So and but it's just it was just something that 884 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: I didn't expect to happen to me, and like this 885 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: is family, This was something that was supposed to bring 886 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: us closer to more than anything. That is not what happened. 887 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: That is not what happened. And what with that whole process, 888 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: it was still like you know, we were like I said, 889 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: we don't speak today, nor being my old friend. That 890 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: was good. Oh I'd about to ask you that about 891 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: you and her still speaking. No, we no longer speak. 892 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: It's not that situation post was a problem. I looked 893 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: at it, and people get hurt every day, right, it 894 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: wasn't about me being shot. It's the stuff that emotionally 895 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: took place after. And so with me and her then 896 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: we had we already had our issues. But that's what happens. 897 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: Like you girl lived with me like, of course you 898 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: had rocky rolls with everyone, but I said that girl family, 899 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: I would never go anywhere. There was the stuff that 900 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: she did after the fact that made me no longer 901 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: speak to her. We have gotten into a fight. Yeah, 902 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: we we went through a lot, and that's just a 903 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: piece of everything that I went through with her. Um. 904 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: She actually ended up marrying my cousin UM, which cousin's 905 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: brother UM, which was weird because the whole situation things 906 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: took place, and what they put me through just to 907 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: be together. It was weird. But they won't tell that story, 908 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: and that's the part that makes me want to strangle 909 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: both of them. But you know, it's it's just like, 910 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, I have to move on from this entire situation, 911 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: so I moved forward. Um, good luck to them and 912 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: whatever they decided to do. They can milk this story 913 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: and whatever they want to do with it, but I 914 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: moved on. I see where you're going with that. You 915 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: don't even have to say much on that part. Yeah, 916 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: So what would you like the listeners to know about 917 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: your cousin? She was amazing, right she Um. She definitely 918 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: embodied a role model that she was really smart. Yes, 919 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: she definitely she was acceptually smarts graduated. Topic she was 920 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: at the she was number three hour class. Um. She 921 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: putty much that all heasy bees um, very very rare 922 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: with the bees um depending on the time pragm of 923 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: what it was about. Um. She definitely got accepted from 924 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: point of kid school. She had a couple of pool rides. 925 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: She was definitely on her way to start up. When 926 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: it came to basketball, um, she was. She scored a 927 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: thousand points, but she actually because it was some kind 928 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: of limitation and scoring a thousand points back then, I'm 929 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: not sure how that works. Outn't play basketball, so it 930 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: was something about they couldn't record that she scored over 931 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: a thousand points. She was well over a thousand points, 932 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: but she was a thousand point score and being put 933 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: a thousand point score as a point guard was a lot. 934 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't understand how that works. But 935 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: that was something. But that was she was awarded. She 936 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: the w n b A recognized her. They gave her 937 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: so much. The school gave her a lot um a 938 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: lot of recognition. They did articles, so many stories, articles, 939 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: and I can only like I can just that's only 940 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: a piece of what they've done for her. Um, it 941 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: was a lot. It was a lot, and she was 942 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: an amazing person. And definitely it's not too many people 943 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: who genuinely care about people. And if you do have people, 944 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: they didn't care about you and love you for who 945 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 1: you are, whether they blevelated than not gold onto. Yeah 946 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: these niggas, No, I'm serious, Like, I don't think people 947 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: understand the value of like relationships, Like when you find 948 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,959 Speaker 1: good people, you gotta hold onto people because you don't 949 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: know when God's gonna pull that number. You don't know 950 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: what can happen. Like, you really gotta value people. And 951 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: even if you all have the part rate for whatever reason, 952 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: make sure you leave a blace. Don't don't leave with 953 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: that whole like, oh we we hadn't gotten to a 954 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: bad falling out. Ain't nothing that bad in the wound 955 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: that you can't resolve, yea, And depending on the circumstance 956 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: and what it is, have a conversation and get it 957 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: right there. That's it. Don't go go forward, just keep 958 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: just move on if that's the case. But at least 959 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: clearing the air sometimes it's a good thing. And I 960 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: had to do that with my old friend too, Like 961 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: we had to clear the air, but we could never 962 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: be friends again. I want to see her eat, just 963 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: not at my table with me, especially not writing no 964 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 1: book about me. Yeah I saw she had a book 965 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: out too, or she's working. Yeah, so up. So it's 966 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: the whole thing was like her talk from the momy 967 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: saying I would spread rumors about it, but not one 968 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 1: time did she reach out to me. I can show 969 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: you and poom it to you because I don't believe nothing. 970 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. I would pull a receipt from 971 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: ninety three and I was born at ninety five, like 972 00:47:53,800 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: that's that's me so and it was just she when 973 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: she did that, it was like, we can't. We can't 974 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: hang the fact that you never came to me and 975 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: talked to me as an adult about what was going on. 976 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: We could never again. Like I just said, she, I 977 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: want to see her eat, just not at my table. 978 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: And and that actually is a bar to pop setting 979 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: um and um. I choose not to h I choose 980 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: not to deal with it. Um. And in the light 981 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: of being like angry, I'm gonna move more. Like I 982 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: definitely said that you are be You have to control 983 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: your tongue when you are certain emotions, especially when it 984 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: comes to anger, because they're there. At one point, I'm like, 985 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: I was so mad everybody was about to catch these hands. 986 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: Everybody they were gonna catch more than these hands that 987 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: they kept playing with me. And that's and that's and 988 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: that's how I felt. But it was like for what 989 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: my mom taught me very well, and she said to me, 990 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: you can either stay here you play this victim roll, 991 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: or you can get up and make something out of it. 992 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: And that's what I did. I can't just stay there. 993 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: Have you been back to the wh I know the 994 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: answer to this, but have you been back to the 995 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: nightclub since the shot? Yes, yep, I have. Um. They 996 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: actually flewed me out there to come back to the 997 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,479 Speaker 1: glove so and we when I took my guy sister 998 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: with me and she, uh, that was her first time 999 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: because it affected her a lot because she was supposed 1000 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 1: to be on a vacation with me, so like it. 1001 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: She couldn't make it because she had already used her 1002 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: time for her honeymoon and all this other stuff and 1003 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: it was like everything was just like all over the place, 1004 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: So she didn't go, but it was it took a 1005 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: lot out of her and never realized how much it 1006 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: affected other people around me. True, I never realized that 1007 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: until I spoke for her. She explained it to me 1008 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: for the first time. So I was just like, I 1009 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: never would have known that because it was I was 1010 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: too focused on trying to get myself together, like you know, 1011 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: which is fair, like you had your own healing that 1012 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: you had to go. But they were a part of 1013 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: the healing process. So I understood what she meant. But 1014 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: I was just like, still, like, you know, I never 1015 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: understand how much it affected me until that moment. Is 1016 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: it hard for you to go out to clubs? Now? No? 1017 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: I went, Um, we actually went to a bar, but 1018 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: now a few months after, But no, it was like 1019 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 1: it was actually almost a year later, Um, because it 1020 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: was Yeah, it wasn't a few months after. It was 1021 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: almost a year later. We went to a bar. But 1022 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: that's because my cousin knew the area she needed, He 1023 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: knew the people that worked there, he knew what is 1024 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: what around that area. So and he said, if you 1025 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable, we can go home. I will not be 1026 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: mad at you if you want to go home. And 1027 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: I said, that's fine. So but he stayed, and it 1028 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: was his third thing we gave him. Definitely wanted to 1029 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: so he could have gi himself. But we definitely had 1030 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: a good time. So after the shooting, the shooter's wife 1031 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: was acquitted on her charges because she stated that she 1032 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about it. What are your thoughts on that? 1033 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: She's a liar? Yea? How'd been saying, how did these 1034 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 1: women not are they're seeking with the devil? Yeah? She 1035 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,959 Speaker 1: she she claimed she did not know, um that what 1036 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: was going on. She claimed she did, but she's lying, 1037 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: she's lying. She's a life, she was a wife, a 1038 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: big time life. And she tried to pull that I've 1039 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: been abused all my life victim card, and I'm just like, 1040 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: but you stayed with him for this long and then 1041 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden he's and he's a deep crap. 1042 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: Now you want to run. And I felt like, you know, 1043 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: even if it was a domestic violence case, there was 1044 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: no they didn't see any reports of that, right, so, 1045 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: and that was the problem for me. And they said, 1046 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: they call they've seen her outside um getting from her. 1047 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: She was at the club, and she called like, they said, 1048 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: they've seen her getting into a car and leaving. So 1049 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 1: she dropped him off. That's what we would feeling like. 1050 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a digressive that situation because I 1051 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: don't know. But she's reaping every part of this. I 1052 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: know she was because she's the one to blame because 1053 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: she knew he was gonna do it. That's the problem. 1054 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: And like, you know, let's be real, in the black community, 1055 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,439 Speaker 1: you've got charge for going to the store the wrong way. 1056 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: So I let you know, you get killed. Some skitles 1057 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: about the Arizona iced tea, but we're gonna leave that 1058 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 1: alone because nobody asked me. So it was just like, 1059 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 1: you know, my whole thing is is that you know, 1060 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: people who get up like you know, who are accomplished 1061 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 1: of this and who knew this information and did not 1062 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: share it to authorities get locked up for this or 1063 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: for much much much smaller, get killed for much, much 1064 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 1: much smaller. And the fact that she just was this 1065 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: was just dropped. And I think it had everything to 1066 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: do with the fact that this club was a gay club, 1067 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: and that was the part that did not sit well 1068 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: with me, and nobody nobody took their time to try 1069 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 1: to see how or they didn't hand the right people 1070 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: in this case, they didn't had the right people on 1071 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: this case, and I felt like nobody used their brains 1072 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: when it came to charging this woman when it when 1073 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: this with now, So, do you feel like justice was served? No? No, 1074 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel like anything was served, right. 1075 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we are we we got the butt 1076 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: end of the sting. I do. I feel like we 1077 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: got the bat end of the state. Because there was 1078 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 1: no justice for post. We had to create our own justice. 1079 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: We hadn't use That's what I had to do, turn 1080 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: my playing into a game. As my cousin would say, 1081 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: like you know, she she used to say that all 1082 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 1: the time. So I just had to use it because 1083 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: it was like, we've got no justice for what happened. So, 1084 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: which is how I got tied into being a gun 1085 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: violence activists because there are people out here, not just myself, 1086 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: who don't receive justice for the things that happened to them. 1087 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: What do you think it's a message that's being sent 1088 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: out to the world when um, I don't even said 1089 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: that the killers name because he don't want he doesn't 1090 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: exactly when his wife is free or when the nigga 1091 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: that shot at the church they succumbed to ask him 1092 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: if he wanted the burger, Like, what do you think 1093 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: they're sending out there to the world about gun violence? Privileges, 1094 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: keep right, privileges. Key, that's what they send it onto 1095 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: the world. Privilege is kick you as long as you white, 1096 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: is right, and you know, and then you can do 1097 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: things like this and get away with it. And it's like, 1098 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's as small as that, like you know, 1099 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: you can do things and get away with it, but 1100 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: you know there are reasons. But this is why I 1101 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,720 Speaker 1: feel the way I feel when it comes to fighting 1102 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: for justice for you know, for gun violence and everything else, 1103 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: because this is the type of stuff that happens. And 1104 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: like you know, they said, the message that they send 1105 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: out to the world is that you can do whatever 1106 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: you want, and especially in America, anything goes as long 1107 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: as you, you know, don't look like anybody who was 1108 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: about a few charge dartor then copper or so. And 1109 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: that's and that's something that's where they sent out and 1110 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, especially you know, they found upon the gay community, 1111 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 1: so you know, anybody who it does identify with that 1112 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: brown of people, you can do what you want. I 1113 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: also saw one of your interviews that another one of 1114 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: your Cousins was killed due to dun bars right after 1115 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: the nightclub shooting, right one month later. Yeah. Yeah, at 1116 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: the end of July, he was shot and killed. He 1117 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 1: was shot seven times. Seven seven Oh, I mean still 1118 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: damn yeah yeah, so he was shot seven times. Um. 1119 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: It was nothing but street beef. Um. And it was 1120 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 1: really unfortunate because it's like I had just saw him 1121 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: a few days before he was killed, and I was 1122 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: fussing at him because he was on a bike, a 1123 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: motorcycle and fell off the darn motorcycle and scratched the 1124 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: skate set. So to see him in the cascade because 1125 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: he was Muslim, you know, they don't do like the 1126 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 1: whole a bombing process or anything like that. When you 1127 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: see the gun means as is one in the space. 1128 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: He had a few in his face and the rest 1129 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: of in his chest. Mm hmm. Yeah. So, what are 1130 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the n r A, especially since you 1131 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 1: experienced gun violence and just being from like we are, 1132 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: from neighborhoods, especially a lot of my listeners and from 1133 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 1: the neighborhoods that a lot of people have gun So 1134 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about that. I'm not I'm not 1135 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm still progunned because I do believe at the moment 1136 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: that America decided that they wanted to bang the guns, 1137 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: let's say that were the thing. Was really not, but 1138 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: let's say it was the thing. If America decided that 1139 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: they wanted to being done like that, that we America 1140 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: would be in term more because of the the stuff 1141 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 1: that our leaders have brought up. Um, I think it 1142 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: is definitely a protection because there are some some severely 1143 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: crazy people out there and sometimes you know, the gun 1144 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: is your only option in some cases. Um, I've seen 1145 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 1: people who have been you know if child hazing people 1146 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 1: and they still came charging at them with weapons and 1147 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: it's you know, trying not that you don't want to 1148 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: kill someone, you want to stop them in their tracks, 1149 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 1: and you know, just learning to shoot, but not to kill. 1150 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 1: You know, you want to if you're gonna shoot the kid. 1151 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: That's that's all theas behavior. That's not that's not steep 1152 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: behavior here. So it's just like it's it's so weird. 1153 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: It's a weird situation. I am pro gunn. However, I 1154 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: do believe that nr A has very They have so 1155 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: many like um, mixing creamage is what I'm gonna call 1156 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: them like gout a loopose and I feel like it 1157 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: only applies to those with money or those who look 1158 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: like the inside of your pod. So it's just like, 1159 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that when it comes down to the 1160 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: n RRA and some of their rules, then protect there 1161 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: not there they don't protect the people at the same 1162 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: time as well as it just protects their guns as 1163 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: they can have their guns. And that's like, you know, 1164 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: and they haven't been able to purchase assault rifles um 1165 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: that are used in war is beyond a mess to me. Yeah, 1166 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: that's beyond my comprehensive And you know, being being a 1167 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: part of a boarding a border visor for an organization 1168 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,439 Speaker 1: in dccret pad fund where they endorse candidates to who 1169 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: fight for our people, especially when it comes to gun 1170 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: violence and how they're they're going to address then. And 1171 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: we also we fight to get the white white people 1172 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: in office for who deserves the seats to sit in. 1173 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: So it's just like, you know, being a part of 1174 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: that process of talking to the senators and sharing that 1175 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,919 Speaker 1: story with them and understanding like, you know, this man 1176 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: killed forty nine people with an assault right and the 1177 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: people fifty three people with handguns and whatever else you 1178 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 1: may have had. So it's just like there's has got 1179 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: to be some limitations. They need to be stripped, background checks, 1180 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: they need to be psychological checks. These people need to 1181 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: see therapists before they're able to purchase a gun of 1182 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: any current. I don't care if it's a small a 1183 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: peace shooter. Like you know, this is something that that 1184 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: that's not talked about often at all. So and that 1185 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,959 Speaker 1: and that's one of our biggest issues, like the psychological 1186 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: evaluations like palm example, the shooter for Post he has 1187 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: some mental issues that trust, they knew he had mental 1188 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: issues that they allowed him to purchase because he used 1189 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: to work in security as our security guard. And this 1190 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: man still was able to purchase. How him being able 1191 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: to purchase and assault right for that's using war. It's 1192 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: completely insane to me. Yeah, that's that's that's beyond like 1193 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: so that don't even make sense, Like, no, it doesn't. 1194 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 1: But this is a thing. This is this is a thing. 1195 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 1: So the goal is to let's fight for commissence gun 1196 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: reform because obviously we all realize that commissen is just 1197 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 1: say that kind absolutely not child And I learned that too, 1198 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: So you know, being knowing this information and trying to 1199 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: apply it every little thing that you do. Commersence isn't 1200 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: really common, but also knowing that you know this is 1201 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: this commisence need to be applied to some of the 1202 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: most uh some of the most biggest situations that we 1203 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 1: had faced in that country. Now mm hmm um, that's 1204 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: not at least there are some steps that you took 1205 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: towards your healing. Who the village, Yeah, I spent I 1206 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time hitting to reevaluate myself and 1207 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: who I was because I I quickly forgot who I 1208 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: was and what I'm what I fought for all my life. 1209 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: Let's not being underdog and to not not put myself 1210 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: in situations where I feel like I'm gonna be busting 1211 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So I had to remember who 1212 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: I was for a second and all and I've ever done. So. 1213 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: My whole thing was, let me fight to get myself 1214 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: out of this. I heard the car on that dark 1215 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: place and crawl out of it. But a doctor and 1216 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: let take a village of said my god sister, her 1217 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 1: husband and her family. It took other extended friends and 1218 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 1: family that I had. It took my fame and my 1219 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: family in this as well that I actually like um 1220 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: to help me to get me through this process. So 1221 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: it was a lot. But you know, I remember that 1222 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: makeup artistry was my thing. Like I never knew how 1223 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: much I loved it until I got right back to it. 1224 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I got right back to it in September that same 1225 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 1: year I did I did a fashion show, and I 1226 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 1: never knew how much I loved my crash until that moment. 1227 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: It's like I when I'm in there, like when I'm 1228 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: doing makeup, I have tunnel vision. There's and I don't 1229 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: see nothing else but that. And I've seen your work. 1230 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: You can be the face chick. Thank you, thank you. 1231 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: And I've been doing it since. I was actually a 1232 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: makeup artist long before the shooting. I was actually started 1233 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 1: to make up September two thousand and fifteen. Mm. So 1234 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: those few years later, as you go back, I got, 1235 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: I had opportunities work on an amazing protect and things 1236 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 1: like that. It does since then, I realized as my 1237 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: healing process was going on, sharing my story was a 1238 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: big part of that and my system. I had to 1239 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: get it out of my system. You're not some time 1240 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 1: to talk something so much. You're just like Jesus Christ, right, 1241 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: and but that helped. It helped, and that um, it 1242 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 1: doesn't justifying him, but helped the whole lot. So sharing 1243 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 1: my story and that's how UM the Global Ethos Awards 1244 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: was first. UM. I was sitting here in my at 1245 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: my god sister's house and we were having a conversation 1246 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: at like ten o'clock at night, and I was like, 1247 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, I want to do something that's really rememberable. 1248 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: And it started out as mere talking about my birthday 1249 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: and I want up thinking about Haim and a birthday 1250 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: on the spirit of Philadelphia and not sure if you're 1251 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: head yet, but it's a boat here in philadelph cool 1252 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: ship here in Philadelphia that's soon appeared like pens landon 1253 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 1: and um, and I was thinking about him a big 1254 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: all white party. I say, now, it's appreciate everybody that's there. 1255 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: Right then I was like, you know, I found to 1256 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: hold the love white baby. Okay. So I was like, 1257 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, what, how about I do one thing I 1258 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: do want to do it Coast to Galla. She said, okay, 1259 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,439 Speaker 1: what do you want to host the galaport? I said, 1260 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: what were the gala before? And I said, well, I 1261 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: want to honor people at this stuff. She said, okay, 1262 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: for what I said. You know what, I'm gonna an 1263 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 1: an after this because a lot of times they they 1264 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: often are unseen and I noticed. So what happens is, 1265 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, or they've seen this problem people, those people 1266 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: you see protesting outside of them buildings or outside of 1267 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: the white like the White House or on the steps 1268 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 1: of the the Senator's affice or something like that, like 1269 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, they get and they're they not noticed all 1270 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: the time, or they're been considered like annoying or pet 1271 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: or pest and things like that. But that's not what 1272 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 1: it is. These people have since they're trying to tell 1273 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: you something. It's crazy that they pay activists more attention now, 1274 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: more than ever since the entire Black Lives movement moment 1275 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: matter kind of illuminated since the killing of George Floyd, 1276 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: even though this has been going on for decades since 1277 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: lay yes, since long propping long before that, and it's 1278 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: just like, you know, since this has been a thing 1279 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 1: and it's been illuminated, now they're paying more attention to it. 1280 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: But our goal is to make sure they think it's 1281 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: a proper recognition for what they're for. So next year 1282 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: and during one I could officially say that we're hosting 1283 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 1: a gala to hono those and we already had how 1284 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: people who are and lying for the awards because the 1285 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 1: awards Galar was actually supposed to take a year. This 1286 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: take place this year made their two thousand and twenty. 1287 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, but Kay posted because I would attend absolutely, Yeah, 1288 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 1: so posted for sure. Well, I am super proud of you, 1289 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: like when I met Philly because I love going to 1290 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Philly when yeah, so when I meant Philly, I'm gonna 1291 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 1: definitely hit you up so we can meet in person. 1292 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 1: But like, I know your story is going to like 1293 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,919 Speaker 1: encourage or inspire so many people to keep going. Like, yeah, 1294 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 1: I think you're doing amazing things. I know your cousin 1295 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: is proud of you, and I'm just super proud all you, Like, 1296 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I really appreciate that absolutely, Like 1297 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 1: you've had people cheering for you today and you don't 1298 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: even know it. So like, just keep going to my listeners. 1299 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: If you have any questions, comments, or y'all just want 1300 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: to say, hey, girl have if you want to know 1301 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: more about my guests, please email me a hello at 1302 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: the PhD podcast dot com And until next time, everyone, 1303 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Later later