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Speaker 2: coming up later on tonight, The Falcons at bench Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix Junior the third we'll get this start poll
Speaker 2: question for the final hour. The program is going to
Speaker 2: be watched Seaton.
Speaker 3: How are you handling your withdrawal from getting getting JK JK.
Speaker 4: Let's see.
Speaker 3: Let me get you some results real quick. Falcons decision
Speaker 3: to bench Kirk Cousins is smart or desperate?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 3: That has still fifty one to forty nine. Okay, that's
Speaker 3: interesting to me. And the most awkward quarterback situation Falcons.
Speaker 3: Brown's vikings forty one is Falcons getting running away with
Speaker 3: that one almost half of the vote just because of
Speaker 3: the news recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if Kirk Cousins was starting this weekend against
Speaker 2: the Giants, then those results would be different.
Speaker 3: It might be too, just the amount of money wrapped
Speaker 3: up in it. Yeah, you know that was a big deal.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Jets situation's awkward because if I'm taking
Speaker 2: over the job, I don't want Aaron Rodgers because he's
Speaker 2: probably going to be in there for one year and
Speaker 2: it's become his franchise. I got to take that away
Speaker 2: from him, and I would want to be able to
Speaker 2: start fresh. And there's a lot of rumors that go
Speaker 2: on now because we have three more regular season games
Speaker 2: and everybody who's out of the playoff race, they're kind
Speaker 2: of lining up.
Speaker 4: They want to make sure in the game of.
Speaker 2: Musical chairs, there's a chair for you to sit on
Speaker 2: when it comes to getting a head coach. Mike Brabel's name,
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's name, those are two names will be at
Speaker 2: the forefront here. Brabel, I'm surprised that he was out
Speaker 2: of a job for a year. I think he's a
Speaker 2: great coach, and he's a culture coach. He creates the culture.
Speaker 2: And this is something I talked about a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago and That is how many guys can come
Speaker 2: in and change the culture. Not I'm an offensive minded
Speaker 2: or defensive minded guy. Like I don't know if Dan
Speaker 2: Quinn changed the culture with the Commanders. I think Jayden
Speaker 2: Daniels changed the culture. I think New Ownership changed the culture.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was Dan Quinn. His coaching stuff. Now,
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell changed the culture with the Lions. That's what
Speaker 2: you're looking for. Can you get somebody in here who's
Speaker 2: going to change the culture of the Bears because it
Speaker 2: just feels like they can't get out of their own way.
Speaker 2: You need somebody who sets the example. Maybe you get
Speaker 2: the front office out of the way or ownership out
Speaker 2: of the way, and you're able to establish Like Mike
Speaker 2: Ditka did in Chicago, he created a culture. Buddy Ryan
Speaker 2: with him created a culture. Buddy Ryan with the Eagles
Speaker 2: created a culture. Jimmy Johnson and created a culture. It's
Speaker 2: not boy that guy's a defensive minded genius or an
Speaker 2: offensive minded genius. It's you get in there and you
Speaker 2: must change that feeling that you have. And there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of coaches. Jim Harbaugh is a culture changer.
Speaker 2: Did that at Michigan, did it in San Francisco. He's
Speaker 2: doing it with the Chargers as well, and Mike Brabel
Speaker 2: to me is one of those culture changers. Eight seven
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Speaker 2: All right, some phone calls in here and oh, you
Speaker 2: know what, let's play in or out. Paulie, give us
Speaker 2: the topics of you're either in or out.
Speaker 5: Here's the following statement, in or out. Kirk Cousins will
Speaker 5: get the reins of one more franchise next season.
Speaker 4: Todd in Seaton, I'm in on it happening, not in
Speaker 4: on the no that it should. Okay, Marvin in in.
Speaker 5: If the Jets move on from Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: will get the reins of one more franchise next year.
Speaker 2: Todd in, Seaton out, marv out out.
Speaker 5: Wow, the trend of hiring former star football players at
Speaker 5: smaller colleges Deon Sanders, Michael Vick is just getting started.
Speaker 4: Todd in Seaton in, Marvin in, Eddie, George in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this one's a big one. The NBA's rating situation
Speaker 5: is not really fixable.
Speaker 2: Todd out, Seaton out, Marvin out. This commissioner's too smart out.
Speaker 6: I'm in.
Speaker 5: This is a ten year build up to this. I
Speaker 5: don't know how the commissioner goes to the players union
Speaker 5: says force your players to play eighty games. I don't
Speaker 5: know if that's possible to do.
Speaker 2: It's not because I don't know what you know any
Speaker 2: of these in Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 4: Is it his k Me?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't even know anymore, And it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: to me. Not if you're part of the Clipper fan base,
Speaker 2: you're like, I hope he plays. I like in the
Speaker 2: NBA to this, Let's say you have a restaurant and
Speaker 2: it's a good restaurant. You just never know when it's open.
Speaker 2: You don't know what days that are they're open or closed,
Speaker 2: You don't know the hours that they're open.
Speaker 4: But it's a really good restaurant. That's the NBA.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of good content, interesting players. I
Speaker 2: just don't know who's playing and who's not playing. But
Speaker 2: am I going to drive there if they're going to
Speaker 2: be closed? Hey it's a Tuesday. Wait you close on
Speaker 2: a Tuesday?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 4: When did that happen?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: We just started. You don't know.
Speaker 2: And that's the problem with the NBA, Like the NFL,
Speaker 2: situation comes down to keeping your quarterbacks healthy. If you
Speaker 2: keep your quarterbacks healthy, they had over sixty different quarterbacks
Speaker 2: last year. I don't think the ratings suffered, but they
Speaker 2: want to ensure that you still have star power there
Speaker 2: as often as possible.
Speaker 4: You got that schedule.
Speaker 2: You want to make sure that those guys are going
Speaker 2: to be playing in these games.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like the a bigger problem than load management
Speaker 3: and the style of the game that's played is the
Speaker 3: number of fouls called. Okay, I feel like there's a
Speaker 3: foul every thirteen seconds, and it's impossible to get a
Speaker 3: feel and flow for the game when every little tiki
Speaker 3: tac foul is being called. Let them play a little bit.
Speaker 3: I get that there's a foul and there's not, but
Speaker 3: there's other times that it's like, who can even tell
Speaker 3: where the contact was anymore? And you're already blowing It's
Speaker 3: like a preemptive foul call, a preemptive whistle. That to
Speaker 3: me is a much bigger problem because I can look
Speaker 3: at the game and be like, oh, Dann Lebron's not playing,
Speaker 3: but the game is already happening.
Speaker 4: You get into the game.
Speaker 2: Todd, would you check? I don't know if the NBA
Speaker 2: would have these numbers, they should. Is there a the
Speaker 2: number of like how often is a foul called in
Speaker 2: the NBA? And how has that changed over the last
Speaker 2: that's say, two decades?
Speaker 6: Is there?
Speaker 2: You know, hey, back in two thousand and two, it
Speaker 2: was called, you know, once every nine seconds, and then
Speaker 2: it's once every fourteen second. So it's whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess they keep that data. I'd be
Speaker 2: curious about that. Yes, yeah, Paul, I have it.
Speaker 5: It's fouls called per decade, like each decade foules called
Speaker 5: per game in the NBA. In the eighties, per game,
Speaker 5: twenty four point nine files called, in the nineties, twenty
Speaker 5: two point seven, in the two thousands, twenty two, even
Speaker 5: twenty tens, twenty point three fouls called per game, and
Speaker 5: in the past four years, including this year, nineteen point
Speaker 5: six sous.
Speaker 2: All right, so word less, like I said, due to
Speaker 2: the three, well obviously going down.
Speaker 4: So I actually don't.
Speaker 5: I think Seaton's point is wrong because if you look
Speaker 5: at the amount of drives to the basket in threes,
Speaker 5: I'll bet you the well, it seems like there's fewer calls.
Speaker 5: There's so much less contact, So that means they're still
Speaker 5: calling TICKI tag stuff now when twenty years ago that
Speaker 5: wouldn't have been called. So I think Seaton is right
Speaker 5: with what he's saying.
Speaker 4: Well, they're not calling more foul, not more, but more
Speaker 4: light fouls. There's no stat for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that a light foul? Used to be there
Speaker 2: was a playoff foul. I always love that, you know
Speaker 2: the fact the Kurt Ramba is Kevin McHale play. Hey,
Speaker 2: that's just playoff basketball. It's not a flagrant. You're not
Speaker 2: throwing anybody out. That's playoff foul. I like you had
Speaker 2: that designation. You can get away with anything. Hey, you're
Speaker 2: gonna throw it. No, it's a play it's a playoff ful.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's right.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See maybe it is a combination of that, like come down,
Speaker 3: miss a three, go to the other way, miss a three,
Speaker 3: come down, miss a three, go back the other way,
Speaker 3: drive to the hoop.
Speaker 4: Falcoll one more in or out?
Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, in or out. I want lots of snow
Speaker 5: at college football playoff games this weekend. Home games are
Speaker 5: at Ohio State, Penn State, and Notre Dame High Snow possibilities.
Speaker 2: Okay, the Clemson game will probably not be snow less likely, Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably not. Do I want snow? Todd, you went around
Speaker 2: in Seaton, Sure, Marvin, I guess I'm out.
Speaker 4: I'm out. I like the visual.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that you still get quality football,
Speaker 2: not some cold weather. I'm in on that, uh, Stringer
Speaker 2: in Arizona joints us Hey Stringer, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7: Heydnn second time long time six ' two and a
Speaker 7: semisoft two fifteen. Hey, I was watching you guys on
Speaker 7: Peacock and I saw when you were using that ball
Speaker 7: cannon and the backdrop for you shooting it, everybody is
Speaker 7: Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth. And did I have this
Speaker 7: epiphany that that looks you could recreate that with some
Speaker 7: old school uniforms with Fritzy and Marvin and that would
Speaker 7: be awesome.
Speaker 2: So Marvin would be Babe Ruth and Fritzy would be
Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson. Are you guys, Are you guys willing to
Speaker 2: play the roles of Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth Todd?
Speaker 4: Of course, Marvin, I'm in.
Speaker 2: We just got to get the old Brooklyn Dodger uniform
Speaker 2: and all of the matchups in the fieldhouse. All of
Speaker 2: that art is by an artist named rc arc Y,
Speaker 2: and I wanted matchups that never happen. You have Shack
Speaker 2: against Wilt, Caitlin Clark against Steph Curry. You have Lebron
Speaker 2: and Michael Jordan, Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth. So I thought,
Speaker 2: you Knowlawrence Taylor rushing Tom Brady as Tom Brady throws
Speaker 2: a pass and it's Dwight Clark when Dwight had the
Speaker 2: catch for the forty nine ers. So just trying to
Speaker 2: create matchups that never happened in real life. Johnny and Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: Hi Johnny, what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Dan Dannetz, Mary Christmas, Happy Holidays? Six ' four a offski,
Speaker 8: two fifty five a ski ski.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So I want to comment real quick on Michael Pennick Junior,
Speaker 8: but real quick when we were listening to Chuck talk
Speaker 8: about the Jason Kelsey's show. I don't know if he'd
Speaker 8: ever do it, but could you imagine if he was
Speaker 8: a sidekick or vice versa on the talk show Chuck
Speaker 8: and Jason Kelsey that that could be a good recipe.
Speaker 6: Just a thought there.
Speaker 8: As far as Panix, I'm was seting on the polar results.
Speaker 8: I don't understand this why it's so polarizing risk reward, Like,
Speaker 8: do you remember how criticized that pick was when they
Speaker 8: did it? No one understood it right, And it makes
Speaker 8: so much sense though, when you really think about it,
Speaker 8: I love Pennis. I mean, people forget that this now
Speaker 8: Indiana team. He was there three years. The guy's high character,
Speaker 8: huge arm. He's out as actor as Jade Daniels, but
Speaker 8: that Heisman class he came in second. Jane Daniels, Bo Nicks,
Speaker 8: Marvin Harrison Junior, stiple risk reward. I think the kid's
Speaker 8: a baller, and I think they got a good one
Speaker 8: on their hands and simple risk reward. I want seven
Speaker 8: and seven. Why not give them a go?
Speaker 4: I'm I understand it.
Speaker 2: They may luck into a great situation, Johnny, but this
Speaker 2: is still the same organization that gave ninety million dollars
Speaker 2: to Kirk Cousins. So I can, on one hand say, man,
Speaker 2: you guys are brilliant. It's like the Niners with Trey Lance.
Speaker 2: Like I can't say, man, they found rock perty yes,
Speaker 2: and you also drafted Trey Lance. You know they may
Speaker 2: luck into this in Atlanta, and I'm all in on
Speaker 2: the risk and the reward. I think the team needs
Speaker 2: some juice. I think they need something here because we
Speaker 2: keep saying the same things. Man, they got a lot
Speaker 2: of skilled position players. Okay, let's see what Michael Pennix
Speaker 2: Junior will do with those skilled position players. Steve Young
Speaker 2: will join us. What does he think of this move
Speaker 2: by the Falcons? He'll tell you next after this.
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Speaker 2: Always a treat to have Steve Young on the show.
Speaker 2: The Hall of Famer three times Super Bowl Champ. Were
Speaker 2: you ever benched? Like in getting you know, Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: getting benched?
Speaker 4: Now? Do you know what that feeling's like?
Speaker 6: I benched? I don't know why. It doesn't really, it
Speaker 6: doesn't ring a bell, Dan. I might I might have
Speaker 6: blocked it out.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 6: I threw six interceptions as a tenth grader in JV
Speaker 6: and the coach said that after the game, He's like,
Speaker 6: you guys are the worst athletes in the world. And
Speaker 6: who's he? I mean, who's he really saying that too?
Speaker 6: So I was like, I think that was that was
Speaker 6: my biggest benching. I don't know if I I don't
Speaker 6: even know if I got benched after that. I should
Speaker 6: have been, uh. I th I threw five interceptions at
Speaker 6: Georgia when I my first game at by U and
Speaker 6: la Belle Edwards at halftimes like, you'll be okay, you'll
Speaker 6: be I'm like, no, I know, I'm gonna be fine.
Speaker 6: I'll be great. He goes, No, you got really now
Speaker 6: you know? Now you may me mad. Now you got
Speaker 6: you got problems. You got to fix it fast. And
Speaker 6: uh but I didn't get benched there either, So maybe
Speaker 6: I should have been benched a number of times, Dan,
Speaker 6: but somehow escaped the benching.
Speaker 4: What was your best game in high school?
Speaker 6: Best game in high school? I don't know. I mean
Speaker 6: I I used to I didn't know how to throw
Speaker 6: the ball. I didn't I just ran around. So uh
Speaker 6: we were running the wishbone and uh, I mean I
Speaker 6: I remember the triple option. You know, you make the
Speaker 6: first spake and everyone's like, pitch it and I'd keep it,
Speaker 6: you know. I was like, what do get patch it?
Speaker 6: Like I asked, But it's the second option. Well, you know,
Speaker 6: don't worry about it. But I don't know. There's some
Speaker 6: there's some games running all over the place that were fun.
Speaker 4: But but you went to a passing school.
Speaker 6: I had this crazy dream, Dan, that I was going
Speaker 6: to play in the NFL and that I and if
Speaker 6: I was going to play in the NFL, I had
Speaker 6: to go put it somewhere where I throw the football.
Speaker 6: And even though I didn't know how to throw it correctly.
Speaker 6: I remember my recruiting trip. I went to Army up
Speaker 6: to West Point for a recruiting trip and they played
Speaker 6: Pitt and my my senior year in high school, Dan
Speaker 6: Reno was the rookie, you know, the first freshman quarterback.
Speaker 6: I remember staying on the sidelines and Dan Reno threw
Speaker 6: like a thirty yard bullet out right in front of
Speaker 6: me like like that. I was like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 6: got some distancan cover here, because that whatever that is,
Speaker 6: it's not what I'm doing right now. As a senior
Speaker 6: in high school, man, I got some. And that's why
Speaker 6: so ironic. We went into a pro football hall theme together,
Speaker 6: and I remember thinking back full circle man. From standing
Speaker 6: on the sidelines at West.
Speaker 2: Point, I think Marino like he was ahead of the
Speaker 2: curve in what he was doing.
Speaker 6: Oh Dan, remember he'd hold it right here and just show.
Speaker 6: And I spent the next four years of my life
Speaker 6: I spent throwing the football from right here.
Speaker 9: My arm hurt.
Speaker 6: I couldn't throw any street but I was gonna be
Speaker 6: Dan Marino man, and there's only one guy that could
Speaker 6: throw it like that. Uh.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on benching Kirk Cousins for Michael Pennock junior.
Speaker 6: Well, they've been they've been a little bit unconventional since
Speaker 6: they've drafted Michael, so everyone didn't expect it. But in
Speaker 6: many ways, uh uh, you know, there's such a desire
Speaker 6: to get young, mobile quarterbacks in the end. Kirk can't
Speaker 6: get those yards that are out there in the game today.
Speaker 6: Remember when they changed the rules and they made defenders
Speaker 6: they couldn't launch their bodies anymore. They essentially made the
Speaker 6: game the field biggers like a Canadian field. Now, if
Speaker 6: you think about it that way, the field just got
Speaker 6: that much bigger in the NFL. And with that space,
Speaker 6: it's that's why all these cool plays and all this innovation,
Speaker 6: all this fun stuff. It's great. And so if you're
Speaker 6: a quarterback that can't go get those yards, especially in
Speaker 6: the big games. And I'm talking about leaving the pocket
Speaker 6: with your legs, calling plays out of the huddle like
Speaker 6: the Bills do, and you know Josh Allen walks into
Speaker 6: the end zone. How how hard is it to throw
Speaker 6: to score in the in the NFL, in the red zone,
Speaker 6: and the Bills just make it simple because he has
Speaker 6: this ability now to use his legs, to use his mobility,
Speaker 6: and if Kirk doesn't have that. Now, Michael's not the
Speaker 6: most you know, look, he's not the most mobile guy,
Speaker 6: but at least he can go get those yards. That
Speaker 6: might be what they're thinking too.
Speaker 2: Awkward quarterback situations. Vikings with Sam Darnold a good awkward.
Speaker 2: The Jets situation of what do you do do you
Speaker 2: want Rogers back? And if you're a new coach coming
Speaker 2: in the Falcons is kind of awkward. If Pennix plays well,
Speaker 2: do you do with Kirk? If he doesn't play well,
Speaker 2: it's awkward? Then I offer this one up. Let me
Speaker 2: start with this the Niners quarterbacking situation with rock Party
Speaker 2: coming Doe. Is that an awkward quarterback situation decision?
Speaker 6: Well? Uh, you know, I mean it really comes down
Speaker 6: to how you see the game today and what I
Speaker 6: just describe to you in the difference between Kirk, Cousins
Speaker 6: and and and somebody that can move around and take
Speaker 6: the take the yards. Do you if you don't have
Speaker 6: that ability to extend and to push, you know, kind
Speaker 6: of from your your athletic ability just to push defenses backwards,
Speaker 6: you're gonna need more help. That's why Jared Goff last week,
Speaker 6: remember he ray scrambled once and everyone's like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: it's like Josh Allen, you know, but so he can't
Speaker 6: do it. It's not his game. So he needs actually
Speaker 6: in the game today because what he's described to you,
Speaker 6: you need more room and so you need more help.
Speaker 6: And so when Josh gets it. Let me say it
Speaker 6: this way. If you have a series, a ten play series,
Speaker 6: they score a touchdown in those ten plays. If it's
Speaker 6: Jared Goff, you're gonna have ten plays where you have
Speaker 6: to call out of the huddle generally and have it
Speaker 6: work all the way down the field. So that's hard
Speaker 6: to do. It's retail football. It's hard to do. If
Speaker 6: you can do it, and you can get really good
Speaker 6: at it, but it's just it's got a degree of difficulty.
Speaker 6: Where Josh Allen on the same side of the other
Speaker 6: side of the ball, he'll have a ten play drive
Speaker 6: and he'll score, but three of the plays were off
Speaker 6: script and we're easy yards and you don't have to
Speaker 6: it doesn't have to be efficient doesn't have to be perfect,
Speaker 6: doesn't have to be timed up, and so all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, it's seventy percent of the time you got
Speaker 6: to play great football or or tactical or efficient football,
Speaker 6: and the Lions have to do one hundred percent. So
Speaker 6: you go back to brock perty He's got he's he's
Speaker 6: gonna have to he needs out of the huddle. That's
Speaker 6: his superpower call play run it and uh and then
Speaker 6: matriculate down the field and throw it into the end
Speaker 6: zone and h or run it in the end zone.
Speaker 6: So in many ways in the game, you would say, look,
Speaker 6: I need I want to make sure that I have
Speaker 6: plenty of help for brock Purty, plenty of help for
Speaker 6: Jared Goff, plenty of help for Kirk Cousins, and I
Speaker 6: need money to do that. And so that's where the
Speaker 6: maybe the awkwardness that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Would do you want to spend sixty fifty five sixty million.
Speaker 6: You're gonna spend if Look, I think that Dak Prescott
Speaker 6: the Cowboys are going to suffer for a long time
Speaker 6: because they paid him a number that now in many
Speaker 6: ways takes from the ability to build teams to go
Speaker 6: help you for the very thing that you need. And
Speaker 6: so that's the that's the dilemma, because I mean, we
Speaker 6: love everyone loves Brock and loves his game and loves
Speaker 6: his efficiency and his leadership and everything else, but we
Speaker 6: got to make sure we have the money to put
Speaker 6: the people with him to to go win it. Because
Speaker 6: if the goal is super Bowls, if the goal is
Speaker 6: winning some rank and file regular season games, maybe get
Speaker 6: to the playoffs, that's a different goal and that might
Speaker 6: mean different. But if you're talking about we want to
Speaker 6: go to the super Bowl, we need people to be
Speaker 6: there to help Brock. And if you don't, and so
Speaker 6: that it becomes just how much is there available? And
Speaker 6: is a zero sum game in some ways with a
Speaker 6: salary cap. And I think, I mean, I look at
Speaker 6: how Tom Brady thought about it, Look at how Patrick
Speaker 6: Mahomes thinks about it. Right he says, hey, look, I'm cool,
Speaker 6: you get you know, I got my money, but I
Speaker 6: wanted to have plenty of money. And how many times
Speaker 6: did Tom every year say, look, I'm gonna recon restructure
Speaker 6: my I want plenty of money to get people that
Speaker 6: can come help me win super Bowls. And so I
Speaker 6: just with that mentality. He could all get worked out.
Speaker 6: If everybody says, oh no, I want every last dollar
Speaker 6: and I have to and I have to set the market,
Speaker 6: that's going to be a complicated. There's the awkwardness that
Speaker 6: you just talked about.
Speaker 2: We'll go back to Dallas. Jerry Jones. You know, everybody
Speaker 2: lodgs him as a great businessman. He has to know
Speaker 2: what he's doing to the franchise by giving Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: those numbers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and come on, man, for thirty years, I mean
Speaker 6: he has not empowered anyone to walk in the locker
Speaker 6: room and firebody. And so without that power, the court,
Speaker 6: a coach in the NFL is neutered. And and you
Speaker 6: think about why the Cowboys never reached their potential for
Speaker 6: thirty years now, why because they not empowered. So don't
Speaker 6: tell me now that Jerry made a mistake by paying
Speaker 6: back then like like he got You could see that
Speaker 6: he waited and waited and got desperate. Right at the end.
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, let's capitulate this even starting pay them. Well, okay,
Speaker 6: but now what have we done. We've again, we've you know,
Speaker 6: over we've over corrected for something that we should have
Speaker 6: kind of held the line on and so to me
Speaker 6: holding accountability in the Cowboys system. Remember, I've always said
Speaker 6: ever there's America's team account. There's something about the team
Speaker 6: that they show up and they're famous. And I've said
Speaker 6: before you should take the stars off the helmet. And
Speaker 6: you have to win ten games to get one star,
Speaker 6: and you have to win a playoff game to get
Speaker 6: the other star. And now you're now you've earned it yourself.
Speaker 6: You're not You're not special. You're not you know and
Speaker 6: I don't. There's something really missing with the Cowboys, and
Speaker 6: it's been missing for a long time. Number One, get
Speaker 6: a coach that can walk into the locker room and
Speaker 6: fire somebody without asking. Jerry, that's got to happen yesterday.
Speaker 4: You have two MVPs regular season? Yes, okay, where are they?
Speaker 6: Do you get to go? Do you get a thing?
Speaker 6: What do you mean you get? I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 6: got it. I don't know they're around, I don't know.
Speaker 6: They're not the house my kids. I refuse to burden
Speaker 6: my kids with you know, whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Wait, you know, so if I walk in your house,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know what you did for a living.
Speaker 6: No, no, you would not know.
Speaker 4: Wait, you should have a statue in front of your house, all.
Speaker 6: Right, I should have a you know what, everyone everyone
Speaker 6: rubs it on the way in and then uh and
Speaker 6: then uh bowls on the way out. That's how it
Speaker 6: should work. That's the way to you know.
Speaker 2: Wait, okay, do I have to Carson Palmer's heisman is
Speaker 2: in the garage?
Speaker 6: Yeah? So mine? So you asked my absolutely the MVP trophies.
Speaker 6: I'm sure one might be at bou and another one
Speaker 6: might be uh over at work or something like that.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of like like there's other places
Speaker 6: in my life where you know, we can do that,
Speaker 6: but not at not the house now.
Speaker 4: But do you not want to be reminded?
Speaker 6: Oh every day? Man? I was good. Let me let
Speaker 6: me go stare at that some more. You know, all
Speaker 6: I think about is losing to the Cowboys in ninety two?
Speaker 6: So is there where is that? What do I do that?
Speaker 6: Do I put that up? Someone?
Speaker 4: Does that still hurt?
Speaker 6: I throw up in my mouth. You just made me
Speaker 6: throw up of my mouth, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 4: But you brought it up, did I really?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 4: You just did? It still hurts you to this day
Speaker 4: that you lost to the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: Because you I mean you know, I sucked and it
Speaker 6: just pissed me off. It's like, yeah, move on, did
Speaker 6: I do that to myself? It's Christmas time, let's be
Speaker 6: let's be joyous.
Speaker 4: Okay, So you have two MVPs.
Speaker 6: You bring it out in me, Dan, it's your fault.
Speaker 2: Do I bring out the best in you or the
Speaker 2: worst in you?
Speaker 4: It's content.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to bring the best content out of you.
Speaker 6: Not sure. I'm not sure. You make me look at
Speaker 6: myself really hard. I don't know what it is about
Speaker 6: to look in the mirror with you.
Speaker 2: Troy Aikman had a couple of touchdown passes in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah play, thanks, you.
Speaker 6: Know, are throwing what other details can you throw in?
Speaker 2: And then you lost to Georgia by three points when
Speaker 2: you threw five interceptions.
Speaker 6: And then when I lost to Charles Barklay who wants
Speaker 6: to be a millionaire, you know, celebrity edition, when I
Speaker 6: didn't know the the definition of crucible, Like thanks, whatever else?
Speaker 6: I lost to Erkle in the NBA three point shootout.
Speaker 4: Any other losses that you want to talk about.
Speaker 6: Dan, it was like the ball take it down here
Speaker 6: like this, Like how am I losing? Am I losing?
Speaker 6: To Rkle like, this is not possible.
Speaker 4: Damn any other losses that you want to bring up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he asked me about getting benched, and I think
Speaker 6: you've triggered something, Dan, You've triggered something. I don't know,
Speaker 6: that's it.
Speaker 4: Those are the big ones, like Tampa Bay. You never
Speaker 4: got benched?
Speaker 6: Did I get benched? And uh, well, when I didn't
Speaker 6: get benched, but when Ray Perkins took the job after
Speaker 6: my full season at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when I
Speaker 6: was two and fourteen, and I've never I have never
Speaker 6: fought and battled and with other Warriors in my life
Speaker 6: as much. Then they earned those two wins. He showed
Speaker 6: up in the off season and said, young, I hate
Speaker 6: lefties and I hate scramblers.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, uh, oh, that's the problem.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. I'm left handed and I scramble.
Speaker 6: Well that's the old. Yeah. Today in today's game, I'm
Speaker 6: the man, right this this is my game. And uh
Speaker 6: and you know, no one thinks bad of it. But
Speaker 6: lefties was a thing, you know. Bill Waltsh was the
Speaker 6: first one that said to me, bro, I think being
Speaker 6: lefty is an advantage and the fact that you can
Speaker 6: run around. If you'll learn the skill of throwing the
Speaker 6: ball in the pocket, the sophisticated part of the game,
Speaker 6: you can't be stopped like he was the first one
Speaker 6: that gave me the vision. Everyone else is like, you're lefty, man,
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know if I want to
Speaker 6: coach you in college. Same thing. I don't know, Lefty.
Speaker 6: You you got to play defense? You know? Being lefty
Speaker 6: was like this curse discrimination, Dan, something's a problem. How
Speaker 6: about in the NFL. Think about this. Ten percent of
Speaker 6: people human beings are left handed right ten percent? Are
Speaker 6: there ten percent representation and quarterbacks in the NFL, no
Speaker 6: one in the last thirty years name on one hand.
Speaker 6: You cannot name lefty quarterbacks. There is complete discrimination. Dan.
Speaker 6: We'll get to the bottom of it in another show.
Speaker 4: Dang, who are you today?
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's like Christmas times, like I think
Speaker 6: you said, being benched, and I just I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just brought up all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: Like Josh Allen seems to have figured it out.
Speaker 6: No, I would go the other way. I think the
Speaker 6: Bills have figured it out because Josh for a number
Speaker 6: of years had to play that Superman role over and
Speaker 6: over and over again, because again the game is dramatically
Speaker 6: changed for offensive players to go make take the space
Speaker 6: he would go try to do it because he wasn't
Speaker 6: getting the help. And now all of a sudden, he's
Speaker 6: getting the running help. He's got offensive line help, he's
Speaker 6: got innovative play calling which is much more interesting and cool,
Speaker 6: and now he doesn't have to be Superman every play.
Speaker 6: And what's funny about it, the second you take that away,
Speaker 6: where it's not this burden that he has to kind
Speaker 6: of do it every play and do something crazy, and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, the more we get Josh Allen
Speaker 6: that when he does do it, it's like, oh, it's
Speaker 6: just knifing. It's just you know, you complete capitulates from
Speaker 6: the defense. They just crushes them. So I would say
Speaker 6: that the Bills came to Josh. Now he's gotten better,
Speaker 6: he's gotten his sophisticated passing has gotten better, like it's
Speaker 6: all honed. But I think the Bills met Josh at
Speaker 6: who he could be, just like the Chiefs meet where
Speaker 6: Patrick is and where every team needs. That's why I
Speaker 6: say this for Lamar Jackson, meet him where he is,
Speaker 6: and I just they're trying. They're trying to change the
Speaker 6: offense and make it less of the most sophisticated running
Speaker 6: game in America and build a sophisticated passing game. I
Speaker 6: think they're trying, and at times it's amazing. But now
Speaker 6: obviously they got to do in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Let me go back to being a left handed quarterback
Speaker 2: for I let you go, did you put Jerry Rice? Like,
Speaker 2: would you, as a left handed quarterback, want your best
Speaker 2: receiver on your left side?
Speaker 6: No, it didn't matter. That doesn't matter. So here's the
Speaker 6: key is that football is right handed, so right handed
Speaker 6: that they see lefties and the coaches like, a, I
Speaker 6: don't know if that I want to coach you because
Speaker 6: I then have to flip everything and I have to
Speaker 6: teach it differently. I just that's how simpleton that people
Speaker 6: in football can be. But if you think about it,
Speaker 6: because football is sole right handed, everything gets installed right handed,
Speaker 6: every plays right handed. As a start, that linebackers now
Speaker 6: are left handed right because they're opposite right, so everything
Speaker 6: happens to their left and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 6: lefty comes out and boots left and is on the run.
Speaker 6: And now you know, like there's a moment that Bill
Speaker 6: Watson one that told me about it is like you're
Speaker 6: gonna have the flash of reflect reflex from defenses that
Speaker 6: you're gonna take advantage of. And that's why when to
Speaker 6: me when I see a lefty in the game, I'm like,
Speaker 6: that's an advantage no one else sees.
Speaker 4: I guess we did the math.
Speaker 2: Less than three percent of quarterbacks in the NFL are
Speaker 2: left handed.
Speaker 6: You got a crack staff there, Yes, now that I know.
Speaker 6: And look, that's when I found out as a Dodger.
Speaker 6: So I mean, this is awesome.
Speaker 4: Well that was Fritzy who made the mistake thought that
Speaker 4: you were.
Speaker 6: I really loved the last couple of months thinking myself
Speaker 6: as a a professional baseball player.
Speaker 4: I when we have you on her, we helping her, hurting.
Speaker 6: You, it's awesome therapy. Dan, I really appreciate you bringing
Speaker 6: me on. The kids are my kids are here wanting
Speaker 6: to walk by because they got to get going, Like
Speaker 6: what's the problem, Like there's all things going on around here.
Speaker 6: It helps. I love being a part of the Dan
Speaker 6: Patrick show.
Speaker 4: So all the girls are there, Well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Summer's right here, Hi, Summer, there you go. You're good.
Speaker 6: Go bye, You're good. She's been waiting and bugging me
Speaker 6: the whole time. Maybe that's what happened, is that I
Speaker 6: was distracted this whole time.
Speaker 4: Does she care that you're a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 7: I see.
Speaker 6: I say to people a lot of times when they
Speaker 6: say something to me nicely out on the street, like Steve,
Speaker 6: you are amazing, Well you were great, and like would
Speaker 6: you go home and maybe say that, you know that'd be.
Speaker 4: Helpful around your wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I just tell people like, you know, like I was
Speaker 6: really cool, you know, but I like I'm overplaying a
Speaker 6: little bit. But because everyone gets it, but I again,
Speaker 6: I don't, I don't want. Look, it's a big enough
Speaker 6: burden in some ways, fame is a thief, Dan, Let's
Speaker 6: be honest, and if you're not careful, fame can take
Speaker 6: stuff away from you that you don't even notice. And
Speaker 6: so I think I realized that at some point and
Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna like burden the house with it.
Speaker 4: Did you get off hold of yourself at some point?
Speaker 6: Yeah? There were moments I remember.
Speaker 4: And when is that going to end?
Speaker 6: What ended fast? I went down the look I was
Speaker 6: the super Bowl. We won the super Bowl, and of
Speaker 6: course you're going down to Disneyland because you got to go,
Speaker 6: you know, because that's it wasn't a metaphor to yell
Speaker 6: on the camera, I'm going to Disneyland. And so you're
Speaker 6: down there, you're going through and I remember going down
Speaker 6: Main Street and it was everyone's like, Steve, you're the man,
Speaker 6: You're the king, You're the greatest. And I remember the
Speaker 6: yelling back.
Speaker 4: I am the greatest.
Speaker 1: I just lost my mind. Man.
Speaker 6: I I laugh about that, laugh about it even this moment.
Speaker 6: I'm like, what what got into me? Like I wouldn't
Speaker 6: not like like me to do that, but I was like, I, yeah,
Speaker 6: you're right. But then the freaking Main Street is so
Speaker 6: short that that lasted like three minutes and turn it
Speaker 6: backstage and you know it's over. So yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 4: Keep your head up, Okay, Hey, I'm good.
Speaker 6: I think it's important Dan to recognize when you've made
Speaker 6: the vulnerability when things don't go well, and to learn
Speaker 6: that Ronnie Lott taught me, Man, competition is not worth
Speaker 6: it unless it's if it's just winning winter winters and losers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's cut off a finger, but I'm the
Speaker 4: same competition.
Speaker 6: Think about this, he said, this over and over. To me,
Speaker 6: competition is not worth it if it's just winning and losing.
Speaker 6: If you don't give me the space to lose and learn,
Speaker 6: then I don't want to do it. And so yeah,
Speaker 6: I've lost and I'm trying to learn. So the great
Speaker 6: Ronnie Lott.
Speaker 2: He lost to the Cowboys in nineteen ninety two. He's
Speaker 2: Steve Young and uh, great.
Speaker 6: To you don't need to do you need to drive
Speaker 6: it home. Now.
Speaker 4: I thought we were like that was good, Like we're
Speaker 4: learning from don't you.
Speaker 6: Don't have to ride the crap train like you can
Speaker 6: get old or something else.
Speaker 4: The crap train.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's cramp.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's that's bull Cramp is what you don't.
Speaker 6: Want to live. I don't look. I want to be
Speaker 6: vulnerable enough to recognize that I need to learn and
Speaker 6: you know, be better, But I don't want to live there.
Speaker 2: You want to be vulnerable enough to be vulnerable. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's Steve Young lot. I'll check in with you. Learn,
Speaker 2: I'll check you and learn. Then well next week I'll
Speaker 2: check in with you. All right, are you are you?
Speaker 6: Are you one thousand million to zero? I mean if
Speaker 6: you you just dominated every yeah, then maybe that's why
Speaker 6: you don't get it. You're undefeated.
Speaker 4: Yeah a problem. Yeah, you know what, when I lose,
Speaker 4: I'll call.
Speaker 1: You, do me you be posted.
Speaker 4: He's uh.
Speaker 2: Steve Young once again lost in nineteen ninety two to
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Well take a break, we're back after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am easterns six am
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2: Full disclosure, Steve Young might be my favorite guest. Charles
Speaker 2: is up there, Reggie's up there, but Steve Young is unique.
Speaker 2: He is He's fun and self deprecating, two time MVP
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, all of those things, and the losses
Speaker 2: are the ones that stay with you, the fact that
Speaker 2: it still bothers you. Nineteen ninety two, he lost to
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. His comments about Jerry Jones and the
Speaker 2: Cowboys are about to go viral and just let you know.
Speaker 4: Yeh see. I was just.
Speaker 3: Reading or I've been reading that book by Trevor Moad
Speaker 3: who's like he got famous with Russell Wilson sort of
Speaker 3: being like his life coach, I think. But he's worked
Speaker 3: with a lot of different teams and in the book,
Speaker 3: he said something about how the brain absorbs seven times
Speaker 3: more negative information than it does positive information, which makes
Speaker 3: a lot of sense when you think about how those
Speaker 3: losses stick with you a lot.
Speaker 4: You know, like if you strike out to.
Speaker 3: Lose the game, it's like, man, I remember that so
Speaker 3: much more vividly than I do that the good play
Speaker 3: that I had, Yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Then factor in social media. If you have children, oh
Speaker 2: and seven out of ten, those things are staying with you.
Speaker 2: I was pretty fortunate with my daughters that social media
Speaker 2: kind of exploded, and I got out of that window
Speaker 2: there with them for the most part unscathed, because it's tough.
Speaker 2: You post something and even now I'm not on social
Speaker 2: media because nine out of ten times you could say, boy,
Speaker 2: that was a great interview, or you know, the show
Speaker 2: is great, it's the one person, and then that one
Speaker 2: thing stays with you. I just don't want that. You know,
Speaker 2: if we make a mistake. If I make a mistake
Speaker 2: and somebody clarifies corrects me, that's fine.
Speaker 4: I have no problem with it.
Speaker 2: But you know, when the vitriol is out there and hey,
Speaker 2: you know this show is terrible, or you should retire, and.
Speaker 4: I you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: That's not why I do it. I don't need it,
Speaker 2: don't want it. Had people say, man, you should take
Speaker 2: advantage of social media. I said, I have social media.
Speaker 2: It's called my show. I have three hours. Most people
Speaker 2: don't have something like this. They'll have a podcast. We
Speaker 2: tweet things out. We have great people behind the scenes
Speaker 2: with social media. But you know seven out of ten
Speaker 2: is seat And said, man, just back through that. In
Speaker 2: everyday life, if you have children, what they go through.
Speaker 2: Let's see this day in sports history, Paulie, what do
Speaker 2: you have for me?
Speaker 4: A couple?
Speaker 5: There's always a couple with Will Chamberlain scored seventy eight
Speaker 5: points in a game against the Lakers.
Speaker 4: Oh for raid.
Speaker 5: Wayne Gretzky scored his one hundredth point of the season
Speaker 5: before January first.
Speaker 4: He did it in thirty four games. That's silly, thirty
Speaker 4: four games.
Speaker 2: He finished the season with two hundred and five points
Speaker 2: that year, nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 4: This doesn't seem like that's correct.
Speaker 5: And that's about it.
Speaker 2: Let's see Jerry Rice in nineteen ninety five two hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty nine yards three touchdowns in a win over
Speaker 2: the Vikings. Let's see a final results of the pole question.
Speaker 2: I think we were wrapping those things up. Oh Tomorrow,
Speaker 2: Tomorrow on the program, Chris Collinsworth will join us and
Speaker 2: one of my favorite new music artists. His name is
Speaker 2: Steven Wilson Junior the Third. He has become kind of
Speaker 2: an Internet sensation and he stopped through last week as
Speaker 2: he was in Massachusetts going to New York City for
Speaker 2: a concert, and we reached out. He stopped in played
Speaker 2: a couple of songs. We'll bring that to you coming
Speaker 2: up in the final hour of the program tomorrow. I
Speaker 2: think it's he's I would be doing a disservice if
Speaker 2: I didn't let you hear this artist. He's that talented
Speaker 2: and I hope you'll enjoy that. That'll be tomorrow, Todd,
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