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Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 2: Let's have some fun on a Friday, a magnificent Friday,

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Speaker 2: and ask doctor Jesse Friday and all.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Even know where to begin between the questions and the

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Speaker 1: world news and everything else. First of all, let me

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Speaker 1: just give you a heads up. I'm giving you a

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Speaker 1: heads up right now, hear me, Well, about a half

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Speaker 1: hour from now, Brandon Wikert, you know we've had him

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Speaker 1: on several times before, one of these national security experts.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Wikert is going to be here and he's going

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Speaker 1: to be discussing what he thinks is coming next week.

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Speaker 1: Next week, according to Brandon, he believes there's a chance

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Speaker 1: and yes, we are involved. You need to be here

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Speaker 1: about a half hour from now. Strap yourself in. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot to take. Brandon Wikert's gonna join it.

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Speaker 1: So that's coming. We're gonna talk about so many different

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Speaker 1: things right now. We have to discuss the ongoing criminal

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Speaker 1: enterprise of the United States government. RFK juniors out there

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Speaker 1: talking about things. Elon Musk is talking about things. Tim

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Speaker 1: Wallas apparently ended his presidential campaign already. He may just

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Speaker 1: not know it yet. Hey, communist is talking about how

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Speaker 1: property damage is no big deal. All that, and add

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Speaker 1: for the Marines that I'm actually gonna play in the opening,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about your questions. Of course, somebody wants

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Speaker 3: There's so much to get.

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Speaker 1: To all that and green salsa verda Chris in case

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Speaker 1: you didn't know, and so much more coming up tonight

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Speaker 1: on the world famous Jesse Kelly's Show. Before I do

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Speaker 1: any of that, before you even get into the news

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Speaker 1: of the day, I'm sorry, I have to play something.

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Speaker 1: And I'll actually get to a question about this in

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Speaker 1: a while probably, but I'm not going to dig through it.

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Speaker 1: Someone said something about how it just it feels more

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Speaker 1: patriotic now. Everything feels more patriotic now now that the

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Speaker 1: every single thing. Doesn't it in some ways feel like

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Speaker 3: Off of our shoulders.

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Speaker 1: Even with all the problems, and I know there are

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Speaker 1: I have a breakfast tomorrow morning with the young man.

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Speaker 1: the other day and he says, Hey, thinking about joining

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Speaker 1: And it occurs to me that for the longest time

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Speaker 1: I've told you, under Joe Biden, when they turned our

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Speaker 1: that I told you my sons are not joining that.

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Speaker 1: My sons are not going to get dragged into some

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Speaker 1: going to do it. They're not joining that. I've told

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Speaker 1: you that for how long they're not That's what I've said.

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Speaker 1: It occurs to me that tomorrow morning, I'm very likely

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Speaker 3: It's just so awesome.

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Speaker 1: Evan. JD there did the voice work for the new

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Speaker 1: ad for the United States Marines. This is the kind

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Speaker 4: We care about excellence, and we care about patriotism. And

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Speaker 4: if you are awesome and you are a patriotic marine,

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Speaker 5: And that is what we're doing every single day. No

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Speaker 5: more quotas, no more ridiculous mumbo jumbo, no more diversity training.

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Speaker 5: We believe the real strength and the real diversity in

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Speaker 5: from every walk of life, come from every corner of America,

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Speaker 6: And fifty years.

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Speaker 1: Good grief, I'm gonna sign up myself. That's exactly that's

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Speaker 3: That's what young men want.

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Speaker 1: That's what the seventeen year old stud who wants to

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Speaker 3: Let it eat, baby.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's move on to the questions, shall we before

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Speaker 1: we get to the government looting.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna wait.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait on the government looting for just a

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Speaker 1: little bit, just because I'm so worried about Brandon Wiker's

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Speaker 1: the Lady Graham endorsement. That's not nice, Jesse. Trump isn't stupid,

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Speaker 1: at least he doesn't seem to be. But I'm one

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Speaker 1: Lady Graham to corral the rhinos so they don't abandon him.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Okay, Well, first of all, Trump's

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Speaker 1: Trump is transactional, no question about that. But he's not

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Speaker 3: Lindsey Graham again.

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Speaker 1: I tell you when I think things, when I have

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham was on Capitol Hill as quietly as possible

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Speaker 1: minutes later Trump endorses him. That's that's what frustrates me, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Now this, I wanted to get to this.

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Speaker 1: Remember I wanted to recap what I said before I

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Speaker 1: get to this guy's email, because his subject is your

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Speaker 1: advocacy of lawlessness. Jesse, did you ever see a man

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Do you like the US Patriot Act?

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Speaker 1: It's a disgusting comye act. Should I keep going? What

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Speaker 1: that's a protest song. In case you're wondering, Jewish producer

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Speaker 1: hardly see him today, which is really kind of a blessing.

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Speaker 1: We're a little bit concerned about what Brandon Wikert's about

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Speaker 1: to tell us all in about ten minutes from now.

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Speaker 1: So again you're gonna want to strap in for that. Remember,

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Speaker 1: you can email the show Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com.

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Speaker 3: Off the materials.

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Speaker 1: We can't contain it anymore.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's that quote. Christ just brought it up,

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Speaker 3: Someone told him it was.

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Speaker 6: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Period. And by the way, Brandon Wikert's about to say

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Speaker 1: You know, April second's coming to next week, that's the

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Speaker 1: to Jesse likes gold dot com. The time is now,

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Speaker 3: Next The Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 3: Chris, that's a good song.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you're dogging on it. That's a

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Speaker 6: The first thing is it's a great song, Chris. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's so much to unback here. You're gonna have

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Speaker 6: It's going to suck all the oxygen out of Trump's

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Speaker 1: continue to pop into my mind, so I know they

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Speaker 1: pop in the minds of other people. First, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to actually drill down on something you said, because it's

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Speaker 1: nothing for you, but most people don't understand this.

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Speaker 3: I want you to talk.

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Speaker 1: About the air corridor for Israel and what air corridor.

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Speaker 1: People don't make that connection, you know, maps and planes

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Speaker 1: and fuel and they just don't make that. What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so basically, you know, Israel is a very small

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Speaker 6: country on the coast the eastern Mediterranean. It's got Lebanon

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Speaker 6: right above it, and then right next to it, it's

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Speaker 6: got Syria. And right now, right now the Syria, Syria's

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Speaker 6: open basically the airspace. They don't have a SOD there.

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Speaker 6: There's no coordinated anti air capability anymore because a SOD

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Speaker 6: is gone. So now Israeli planes can safely fly from

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Speaker 6: Israel over Syria and Iraq and into Iran, whereas before

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Speaker 6: when a SAD was there, it was not available.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now that is actually exactly what I wanted to ask. Next,

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Speaker 1: not available, what does not available mean Brandon? Not available?

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Speaker 1: As in, we'll send our fighter jets up to shoot

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Speaker 1: you down. Not available, as in, we have SAMs that

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Speaker 1: will shoot with sorry, surfaced air missiles that will shoot

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Speaker 1: you down. What does not available mean? Because my next question,

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Speaker 1: just to let you know, is going to be about

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Speaker 1: Iran and their ability to take planes out of the sky.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well so, right, So the Syria under Asad they

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Speaker 6: had a fairly comprehensive air defense capability. The moment he

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Speaker 6: the Assad regime collapsed, the the Israelis basically went in

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Speaker 6: and knocked out all the known anti aircraft systems that

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Speaker 6: were left abandoned by Asad's army, so that there's basically

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Speaker 6: is no capability now to threaten Israeli warplanes if and

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Speaker 6: when they decide to cross using that air corridor. Now,

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Speaker 6: you mentioned the service to air missile and the anti

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Speaker 6: aircraft defenses of Iran. Those there significantly more comprehensive and

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Speaker 6: advanced than anything Assad had yet the Yet the Iranians

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Speaker 6: have been shown the Russian S three hundred that they

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Speaker 6: were using in October. The Russian S three hundred that

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Speaker 6: they were using in October was basically knocked out by

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Speaker 6: Israeli warplanes and they were able to kind of have

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Speaker 6: escalation dominance over Iran for a period of time. Yet

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Speaker 6: the Russians have since October been flooding Iran with more

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Speaker 6: advanced anti aircraft systems and very well could have the

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Speaker 6: S four hundred. The Russians are giving the Iranians the

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Speaker 6: Su thirty five warplane. They might even be trying to

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Speaker 6: sell them the Su fifty seven, which is Russia's fifth

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Speaker 6: generation plane, to augment Iranian capabilities to stop in Israeli

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Speaker 6: or even American air strike. But that's going to take

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Speaker 6: time for Iran to build up, which is why I

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Speaker 6: think also the Israelis want to go now.

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Speaker 1: Speaking with Brandon Wikert, Brandon, I apologize because I should

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Speaker 1: have asked you this beforehand, But do you buy chance

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Speaker 1: have another quick segment for me, because I have about

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Speaker 1: fifty more questions. I'm going to try to squeeze in.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Wikert is going to join us again here in

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Speaker 1: just a moment. I'm sure you have questions. I have questions.

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Speaker 1: Look at how smart we're getting, and we can steal

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Speaker 1: Brandon's knowledge and pass it off as our own all

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Speaker 1: weekend long. Also, you're gonna cook any meat this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Is your meat?

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Speaker 1: You cook this weekend chicken or steak or a brisket

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Speaker 1: or something like that. If you're made of money, is

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Cooking to temperature is what all the super stud pitmasters do.

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Speaker 1: I'm not one of those, of course, but they all

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Speaker 1: tell me the same thing. Cook the temperature, Cook the temperature,

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Speaker 1: grill or in the oven or on the smoker, and

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Speaker 1: you never look again. And as they say, if you're looking,

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Speaker 1: you're not cooking. I always get lectured like that. The

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Speaker 1: It is The Jesse Kelly Show returning with the Wealth

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Speaker 1: of knowledge, that is Brandon Weikert about all this national

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Speaker 1: security stuff. Okay, where we left off, Brandon, you were

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Speaker 1: talking about Russia providing Iran with with anti air missiles,

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Speaker 1: things like missile defense systems, things like that. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: things like the three hundred versus the four hundred, And

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Speaker 1: where's what I want to know. One, how does all

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Speaker 1: this come into play when we are currently trying to

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Speaker 1: negotiate a Ukrainian Russian piece at the same time Russia's

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Speaker 1: handing Iran things to shoot down our planes?

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Speaker 3: That's one? And two?

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Speaker 1: Are these systems the four hundred? Is it able to

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Speaker 1: shoot down our planes and or Israel's planes? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So the first point is it's going to complicate our

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Speaker 6: ability to get a deal.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 6: I was convinced Trump was going to be able to

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Speaker 6: get a deal by now at least the ceasefire. But

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Speaker 6: I think the Trump administration has unfortunately made a couple

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Speaker 6: of mistakes, and now if they get sucked into this

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Speaker 6: Middle East thing, it's we're really going to be complicated

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Speaker 6: here getting a deal in Ukraine at the same time

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Speaker 6: the Russians and I wrote about this at the Washington

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Speaker 6: Times about a year ago. The reason Iran has not.

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Speaker 6: You know, every time that Israel strikes them over the

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Speaker 6: last year and a half, Iran promises the mother of

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Speaker 6: all retaliations, and then it's kind of not that big

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Speaker 6: of a deal, and everybody's kind of like, what are

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Speaker 6: they talking about? Well, the reason the Iranian retaliations have

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Speaker 6: not been that strong, from what I understand, is that

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Speaker 6: the Putin government has been holding the government back. They

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Speaker 6: didn't want to see a massive, unfedered escalation in the

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Speaker 6: Middle East. At the same time, the Russians are mired

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Speaker 6: in Ukraine. So the way I see what the Russians

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Speaker 6: are doing is they're trying to in their mind, restore

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Speaker 6: some semblance of deterrence. They don't want to see their

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Speaker 6: proxy in Iran fall, that's why they're giving them these systems.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, for the last year, they

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Speaker 6: really prevented Iran from doing more offensive operations of the

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Speaker 6: kind that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps wanted to do.

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Speaker 6: And so there's a window there. If you know that,

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Speaker 6: if you're negotiating with Russian and you're the Trump administration,

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Speaker 6: the window then you say, is okay. The Russians are

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Speaker 6: just trying to basically enhance the defensiveness of Iran. They're

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Speaker 6: not trying to give them significant offensive capacity. So if

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Speaker 6: we don't go too hard against Iran right this second,

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Speaker 6: we can probably put that on ice and get a

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Speaker 6: deal with Ukraine. But if if we go hard near term,

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Speaker 6: and I'm hearing from people in Israel, Israel's talking about

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Speaker 6: striking Iran in the next week, which will naturally force

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Speaker 6: us to take on a more aggressive stance against Iran.

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Speaker 6: But if we do that, the downside will be it's

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Speaker 6: probably going to destroy any chance of getting a piece deal.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, this is all lovely, but this is why

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Speaker 1: I wanted you to come on, Brandon. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: ask the well. I was about to call it a

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Speaker 1: million dollar question, but historically, I guess it's a multi

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Speaker 1: trillion dollar question.

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Speaker 3: Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Let's say the Iranian regime does fall because of Israel's

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Speaker 1: bombs and our bombs and everything.

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Speaker 3: What is the plan after that?

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Speaker 6: So this is the issue, and this is you know,

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Speaker 6: you remember Colin Powell before Iraq, you break it, you

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Speaker 6: own it. And so I do think we could probably

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Speaker 6: get rid of that regime pretty quickly. Now, we might

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Speaker 6: lose a lot of planes, we might even lose a

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Speaker 6: carrier in the Red Sea if we're not careful. But

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Speaker 6: I think Israel and the United States could destroy that

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Speaker 6: regime in Iran. The problem is what comes after, so

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Speaker 6: I think, and Netanyahu sort of said this in August

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Speaker 6: of last year. He's very fond And I like this

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Speaker 6: guy too, the Shah's grandson, the former king of Iran

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Speaker 6: who was overthrown by the current regime, the Islamist regime

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Speaker 6: in Iran. He has a grandson who lives in Washington,

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Speaker 6: d C. He's very active and he's been lobbying hard

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Speaker 6: for the last several years to basically be brought back

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Speaker 6: into power in Iran. And there is a movement in

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Speaker 6: Iran that wants to see a restoration of the constitutional

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Speaker 6: monarchy that existed before nineteen seventy nine. The problem that

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Speaker 6: I have is a I don't know how significant his

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Speaker 6: support is. I worry he could be another Akhman Shalabbi,

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Speaker 6: who was the guy we wanted to hand a raq

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Speaker 6: Do in two thousand and three, and it turned out

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Speaker 6: he didn't really have support, which is why that plan

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Speaker 6: fell apart as soon as we invaded. So my concern

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Speaker 6: is that. My concern also is there are other factions

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Speaker 6: on the ground in Iran that probably do not want

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Speaker 6: to see the king return, and so you're going and

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Speaker 6: then plus you're gonna have if we topple the Ayatola

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Speaker 6: and his Mullahs, you're going to have elements of the

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Speaker 6: regime that are still well organized that will take on

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Speaker 6: an insurgency role. So you're going to have Iran as

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Speaker 6: a failed state. How do you handle that? I would

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Speaker 6: hope we're not going to seriously think about putting troops

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Speaker 6: on the ground in Iran at any time. You could

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Speaker 6: see Turkey moving troops in, but that's a NATO member.

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Speaker 6: So there's the knock on effects here are very complicating,

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Speaker 6: and all this means is actually the region is less stable,

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Speaker 6: less safe. And by the way, unfortunately, the Trump agenda

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Speaker 6: at home would be seriously complicated because all of his

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Speaker 6: political momentum would then have to shift from goup doge

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Speaker 6: and swamp draining in DC to then focusing on the

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Speaker 6: Middle East war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure the American people who roundly put Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump back in the White House to fix inflation and immigration,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to be doing backflips.

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Speaker 3: Did you support yet another war.

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Speaker 1: In the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Weigert, you are the man. Brother.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for making us smarter and at the same

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Speaker 1: time making us all feel bad going into the weekend. Brandon,

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Speaker 1: thank you all.

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Speaker 6: Right, goybye.

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Speaker 1: Look, I just tell you Jewish producer Chris and I

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Speaker 1: were exchanging some some tough looks during that whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Is this all sounds like a disaster? This sounds like

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Speaker 3: a disaster.

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Speaker 1: And this is the part about foreign policy that is

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Speaker 1: so incredibly difficult. Everybody, everybody in the taking part in

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Speaker 1: all this. I'm talking about the Nation States and addition

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Speaker 1: different factions. They all kind of have a point and

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Speaker 1: they all kind of don't right. Israel wanted Asad gone.

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Speaker 1: That was very understandable. Is the world better off now

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Speaker 1: that a sod has gone? And ol ka, it's taking

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Speaker 1: over Syria. No, that's not good either. Israel wants Iran

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Speaker 1: taken out and views this as a window of opportunity.

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Speaker 3: They're correct about that. The country that talks about wiping

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Speaker 3: them off the planet is now vulnerable. At the same time, does.

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Speaker 1: That help the planet if we destabilize another majorment, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, thats gonna be a frigging mets and it

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Speaker 1: might be coming next week, so that should be fun.

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Speaker 3: But I will look, I'll tell you what. Let's just

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Speaker 3: have a brief talk about this.

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Speaker 1: We'll get back to the ask doctor Jesse questions. Let's

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Speaker 1: have a talk about this politically next