WEBVTT - SYSK Distraction Playlist: How Pinball Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, I'm welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant, Doo Doo doo doo,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Jerry Doo and this is stuff you should

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<v Speaker 1>know the podcast. What is that? Oh? Yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you're making pinball pings and no bells and whistles. No

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like Vegas. Vegas like one big pinball machine. It

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<v Speaker 1>is that you've been to walk through those casinos. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you just made my neck muscles tight. Now, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate Vegas. I like Vegas. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't want to live in Vegas or

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<v Speaker 1>like go to Vegas every weekend or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But going to Vegas once a year, once every couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, that's fine with me. Yeah, not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been a bunch and I'm just I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're one with Vegas. That's what you're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see any reason to go back. I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>somebody you want to see will have some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>residency out there, and you will be back in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm like sixty. Yeah, like pavement will have a

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<v Speaker 1>residence valleys. That's exactly I think, what's going to happen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you'll find me in living in Vegas, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Yeah, see I got you back on

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<v Speaker 1>the Vegas train. But that sound. Yeah, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>million pinball machines that take your money faster than pinball machines. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was an early worry about pinball. Actually, as

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<v Speaker 1>we will soon see because I say, chuck, let's dive

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<v Speaker 1>right into the history of pinballs. So pinball machines actually

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<v Speaker 1>find their lineage back in the nineteenth century. There were

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<v Speaker 1>um things called or what were they? I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say Bagat machines, but that's not correct. The table, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bagatel table, thank you. Um. They were basically a

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<v Speaker 1>cross between pool and pinball. He used a pool que

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and they sucked and nobody liked him. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it looks pretty cool, does it? It looks I'm

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<v Speaker 1>boring to me? Well, I mean it's if you're used

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<v Speaker 1>to modern gaming, is not gonna thrill you, but look

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<v Speaker 1>kind of neat. So the Bagatel table was there, it

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<v Speaker 1>was in place, and in the thirties a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>monte Redgrave came along like, you can't not say that

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<v Speaker 1>guy's name like that. Um. He came along and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, people just invented a spring. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you say his name? Again? Montague, like he's on lad

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<v Speaker 1>on um um and uh. He came along and said,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody invented a spring recently. I'm gonna add it to

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<v Speaker 1>this bagatel table make it less sucky. And then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden we have the the what did he

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<v Speaker 1>call it, the ball shooter, which makes sense, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you call it. And now we had the first introduced

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism of pinballs. Things are starting to take shape a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit here. Yeah, but you didn't stick a coin

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. What you would do is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like pool tables these days at a bar. You would

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<v Speaker 1>go up to the keeper of the balls and say,

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<v Speaker 1>here's some money, give me my balls, and let me

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<v Speaker 1>go play the game on the bagotel table. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would go, you know it sucks, don't you, And

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<v Speaker 1>you would say, yes, but it's the eighteen thirties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I play really well, then I can win

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<v Speaker 1>free drinks and cigarettes. And they said, exactly, can you

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<v Speaker 1>see a little twelve year old, winning cigarettes and then

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<v Speaker 1>going back to play more bagatell Sure, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>the way it went for many decades. People were miserable

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<v Speaker 1>until the nineteen thirties, and there was this enormous explosion

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<v Speaker 1>of innovation and pool table re um in the thirties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like just almost everything that you think of and you

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<v Speaker 1>think of a pool, a pool um. We've been saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying pool table just for the last like minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you correct me? I thought you were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about bull tall I'm talking about pinball. Anyway. In the

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<v Speaker 1>thirties there was a huge explosion in pinball, pinball or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, everything that you think of when when you

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<v Speaker 1>think of a pinball machine, almost all of it came

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<v Speaker 1>about in the thirties. Coin operation, the back glass, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that has like a kiss or Hugh heff neuron

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<v Speaker 1>it or something like that stands up off of the

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<v Speaker 1>playing field. The table um electric well, I guess an

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<v Speaker 1>electric current running through it, legs um, the tilt mechanism, bumpers,

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<v Speaker 1>uh sounds yeah, score keeping. And then first, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I think I said bumpers, did I not? I don't know. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>And then most of all, most wortaintly chuck was. The

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<v Speaker 1>thirties led to a huge surge in popularity because you

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<v Speaker 1>had the Great Depression and pinballs were cheap entertainment that

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<v Speaker 1>were wide, widely available. You notice the one thing we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say though and all that innovation, what flippers, Because

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<v Speaker 1>still up until nineteen seven, you just bumped the thing

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<v Speaker 1>to make the ball move. Yeah, there were no flippers,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems very counterintuitive to pinball. And the flippers really

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<v Speaker 1>changed things. They fundamentally changed pinball, not just in the

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<v Speaker 1>way you play, but in pinball is a game because

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<v Speaker 1>before flippers, it was a game of chance. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing as playing like um high low. Basically

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<v Speaker 1>like you had no way really of manipulating the movement

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball. Well you shake them sheen, you could

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<v Speaker 1>without tilting. I mean that's what you did. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was how you did it. Even still it the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of skill it took was minute compared to the skill

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<v Speaker 1>that could be used. Once flippers were introduced, pinball wizardry

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<v Speaker 1>and it became a game of skill. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>but before that, the like I said, things were popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Get this um. In the early thirties there were a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty five companies making pinball machines, and the

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<v Speaker 1>field became so competitive and ruthless that by the mid thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>like five years later, there were fourteen. Yeah, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of those were based in Chicago, which became sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the pinball capital of the world. And I've never been there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I bet you anything, Chicago still has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot more pinball machines than elsewhere, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think of like this, researching this

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<v Speaker 1>made me want to go play pinball, like researching sushi.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we want to go eat sushi. And I was thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea where to go to play pinball,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and we'll go to my brother's house. Does

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<v Speaker 1>he have one? He's got three? Oh, I love your

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<v Speaker 1>brother even more now, dude. He built a whole game room,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, because that's what my brother does. What does

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<v Speaker 1>he have he has? Uh F he has a Tomcat

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<v Speaker 1>F four team, which is the rip off of top Gun.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, there's a lot. There were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>rip off games for a while, of movies and actual

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<v Speaker 1>movie time games. Uh. He has black Hole, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. Another rip off game. I would love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And those are both kind of old school. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he has a Jurassic Park, which is uh newer.

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<v Speaker 1>I think didn't they have like a t rex that

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<v Speaker 1>comes down and eat your ball? I can't remember. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like all three of them. But yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>also kicked this. He took an old um video game

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<v Speaker 1>like stand up video game console and removed all the guts,

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<v Speaker 1>got a computer screen and um computer and hooked it

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<v Speaker 1>up in there too, where you can play all the

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<v Speaker 1>old school games, you know, those programs they have now,

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<v Speaker 1>and change the screen vertically so it just looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a regular arcade game. And you can go up and

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<v Speaker 1>play Frogger and Space Invaders and Scott Bite me over

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all free. That's so awesome. Man. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>um Ricky Schroeder and silver Spoons or something. But growing up, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. Um. And I think the reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>don't play more pinball over there is because, um, we're

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<v Speaker 1>always playing ping pong. Yeah that's a game of skill,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love ping pong. But I'll try and get

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<v Speaker 1>in a pinball game. Man. I want to play some

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<v Speaker 1>pinball so bad. Let's just go out to Roswell dude, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do it right? Now. Uh, and I if I, if

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<v Speaker 1>I collected pinches, it would definitely be mid mid seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and mid eighties. From me, I would think, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the bells and whistles and all that, the new

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<v Speaker 1>fangled bells and whistles. They're fine, that's cool. But I

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<v Speaker 1>like a not so old that it's like electro mechanical,

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<v Speaker 1>but not so new that it's like nothing. But like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, plasma screens and stuff like that. Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. Sure, I'm the same way. My favorite

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<v Speaker 1>game of all time pinball wise, um, favorite game ever, gallagha,

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<v Speaker 1>but favorite game pinball wise was Adams Family Pinball. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I learned in this article that is the top

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<v Speaker 1>selling game of all time from yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was either Bally or Williams put that one out and

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<v Speaker 1>they sold more than twenty thou units of it. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome and it didn't surprise me. And like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no iffinity for the Adams Family, but it's the

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<v Speaker 1>best pinball game I've ever played. And when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it was number one, I was like, well, of course

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because it's the best one. You don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the Adams Family, No, I mean, I like it fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I didn't play it because of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I played it because it was an awesome pinball game.

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<v Speaker 1>And they had one of them all not them all

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<v Speaker 1>the bowling alley near me in Athens Bowling Alley. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I could probably go find a pinball machine. Huh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe not. Sadly, I'm starting a quest, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>um so telling you let's go to my brother's house

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<v Speaker 1>because we can have a scotch okay. Uh So. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>seven is when they finally invented the flipper. D Gottlieb

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<v Speaker 1>Company introduced a game called Humpty Dumpty, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>where what most people say that the first modern game

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<v Speaker 1>came about. It took at the level flippers, all the

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<v Speaker 1>innovations of the thirties and out of flippers and boom

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<v Speaker 1>you've got pinball, not pool table pinball pretty much, although

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<v Speaker 1>the flippers weren't the same. It was the nineteen fifties

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<v Speaker 1>the same person and came up with spot bowler, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first modern arrangement of flippers, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were longer with that introduction or else a little

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<v Speaker 1>later on. The first flippers they introduced were Um, they

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<v Speaker 1>were shorter. Yeah, and they didn't face this. They faced

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<v Speaker 1>in reverse of the way they face now. It was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like they were working it out beta pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's funny that they introduced flippers in because by

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<v Speaker 1>the time flippers came around, pinball was illegal and most

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<v Speaker 1>of the major cities in the United States, Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>have been for several years. I never I think I

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<v Speaker 1>had heard this once and forgotten it. But pinball was

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<v Speaker 1>totally outlawed because they equated it to gambling because it

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<v Speaker 1>was not a game of skill, which and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>because you got prizes. Yeah. Um. Mayor Lea guardia Um,

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<v Speaker 1>who you will remember from the Burlesque podcast, was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a moralist, although he was a wet politician.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in favor of repealing prohibition. He hated pinball,

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<v Speaker 1>hated it. He he thought it was a mafia racket.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought that it robbed the quote pockets of school children,

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<v Speaker 1>the forms of nickels and dimes came to them as

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<v Speaker 1>lunch money. And he got an outlawed in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>And once it was outlawed, he ordered like really dramatic raids. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after Pearl Harbor. He said, you know what we

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<v Speaker 1>need to do. The Japanese have just bombed us. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to get rid of these pinball machines. And so

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<v Speaker 1>let's go round him up, uh like in a raid style.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's smash him with sledgehammers. Let's dump him in the river.

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<v Speaker 1>What they did, they dumped them in the river after

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<v Speaker 1>they smashed them. That's a very New York nineteen forties

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do. Exactly. I bet you there's still pinball

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<v Speaker 1>machines down there, if anyone's brave enough to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the East River. I don't think they are. We should

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<v Speaker 1>say also give a shout out to Popular Mechanics, who, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're working off in part really awesome article. They came

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<v Speaker 1>up with eleven things you didn't know about pinball history.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So, from the forties until the mid nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to play pinball in New York City

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<v Speaker 1>and Chicago and l A most cities in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>it was illegal. Um you had to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>pornography shop basically and go behind the curtain and play pimball.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that weird? It's the weirdest thing we've ever said

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. Until the mid nineteen seventies, and like

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<v Speaker 1>there were still raids and pimball operators. Little five year

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<v Speaker 1>old Chuck, Yeah, I would have been dropped off at

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<v Speaker 1>a porn shop to play pinball, which I'm sure your

0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.280
<v Speaker 1>parents would have been happy to do. Well they did,

0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and I played pinball. I didn't look at nudy people.

0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Did you really know what I was gonna say? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he just blew my mind. No, no, And get this,

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<v Speaker 1>The city of Oakland, Oakland, CALIFORNIAWN, just this past July

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<v Speaker 1>overturned an eighty year ban on pinball. Free the pinballers. Yeah,

0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:30.240
<v Speaker 1>good for them. Yeah, so pinball's band people are still

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<v Speaker 1>playing it like crazy. Um And apparently the manufacturers realized

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<v Speaker 1>this as well, because they're still innovating and adding and

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<v Speaker 1>making new games and machines and all sorts of stuff. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this is after World War Two, that where things

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<v Speaker 1>really slowed down, obviously because of the war effort. Pointball

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<v Speaker 1>was big. Dent was put in pinball manufacturing too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like everything else. And then after the fifties it took

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<v Speaker 1>off again, and it also became kind of a symbol

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<v Speaker 1>of rebellious youth. In this popular mechanic starticle points out

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<v Speaker 1>like the Fons played a lot of pinball. I never

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<v Speaker 1>considered that from Tommy Um, from the Who's Tommy the

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<v Speaker 1>Pinball Wizard? And Tommy both kind of rebellious, like stick

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<v Speaker 1>it in your ear LaGuardia. Yeah. I mean, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>silly now to think about that. But when Tommy came out,

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<v Speaker 1>it was illegal, so pinball was sort of uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was just the rebels. Yeah, you're anti

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<v Speaker 1>authoritarian if you played pinball, it was just an image

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Yeah. And then the Great Simpsons quote side show,

0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Bob said television is ruined more young minds than pinball

0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and syphilis combined. That one flew right over my head

0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.000
<v Speaker 1>when I heard it the first time. I just thought, oh,

0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that's silly pinball, right, But I didn't think about like

0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.040
<v Speaker 1>moral turpitude. Yeah. I didn't get that one either, but

0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I do know. So luckily, pinball was still widely available,

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<v Speaker 1>albeit in the backs of pornography shops UM. And the

0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>reason we say luckily is because somewhere along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>a young man in I think in his early twenties

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<v Speaker 1>named Roger Sharp, who is a magazine editor, UM, was

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<v Speaker 1>called upon to save the pinball World at a New

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<v Speaker 1>York City council meeting. Yeah, they finally said, hey, City council,

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<v Speaker 1>can we get a hearing on pinball machines? You guys

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<v Speaker 1>are being ridict because it's a bicentennial of this country

0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and we need pinball. It's as American as America gets

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<v Speaker 1>as pornography. So they said, sure, we'll have a hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because their intent was to prove that it was a

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<v Speaker 1>game of skill and not chance, which was the whole

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<v Speaker 1>rub in the first place. They brought in there a

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<v Speaker 1>pinball wizard. Game of chance is gambling? Sure, LaGuardia had

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<v Speaker 1>a point, well sort of. I still don't get it.

0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.280
<v Speaker 1>But this law was obsolete because they added footperson now

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<v Speaker 1>as a game of skill, but the law was still

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<v Speaker 1>around basically. So they brought in their pinball wizard Sharp

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<v Speaker 1>and um. They brought two machines because if one broke down,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to have a backup, and some jerk councilman

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<v Speaker 1>when he went to play the game, said no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, why don't you play the their game, the

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<v Speaker 1>backup one. Yeah, the backup game. And Sharp started sweating

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<v Speaker 1>because he was like, oh, I'm not very good at

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<v Speaker 1>that game. Yeah, he never played it before. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>master at this one, but he was a pinball wizard,

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<v Speaker 1>so I believed in him. Yeah. Well I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, did you. Did you see the the documentary

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<v Speaker 1>Special Windlet. No, Oh my god, it has footage of this.

0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.360
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, amazing documentary. All about pinball, I mean all

0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:29.240
<v Speaker 1>about pimball is not so awesome documentary there is that's

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<v Speaker 1>about a specific moment in history and pinball. I haven't

0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.600
<v Speaker 1>seen that one, but it sounds pretty good too. But

0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:38.680
<v Speaker 1>see Special Winlet amazing um and see Tilt two. It's

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<v Speaker 1>what's the deal? So um. Roger Sharp's playing, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>really impressing anybody, and things are kind of going bad,

0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and he decides to do a Babe Ruth call. He

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<v Speaker 1>pulls back the plunger and before he releases it, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going up the middle aisle here. Yeah, And just

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, if you've never seen a pinball game,

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<v Speaker 1>you you pull the plunger, it's shoots the ball up

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<v Speaker 1>the right hand side through a trough and then it

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<v Speaker 1>spits it out at the top. And what he was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to prove is where I'm going to spit it out,

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.320
<v Speaker 1>and where it's going to start it's descent back to me,

0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.159
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be in a very specific place in

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the board, not on the left, not

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<v Speaker 1>on the right, right up the middle. And um, he

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<v Speaker 1>did it. And apparently right afterwards the city council was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll repeal it, like it's obviously a game of skill,

0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:31.560
<v Speaker 1>like Roger Sharp single handedly, well double handedly because he

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<v Speaker 1>was using the flippers. Um, save pinball from illegality. I

0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.720
<v Speaker 1>wonder if they said, yeah, fine, good lord, just it's legal.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the machines out of here, get this loser out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. But he is not a loser, because he

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<v Speaker 1>is currently still the number five hundred and thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>ranked player in the world. I'm surprised. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>went on to be. I think at the time he

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<v Speaker 1>was number one, which is why they chose him. He

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<v Speaker 1>probably was, but he's been falling ever since. Man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing in special win let Man, there are some

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<v Speaker 1>like really good pinball players. Well, I've got the list.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll quickly go with the top five, number one in

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<v Speaker 1>the world as of today, two thousand, fourteen August whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Keith Lwyn of the USA is number one.

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<v Speaker 1>U s a Urian ingele Brixton of Swedeness number two,

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<v Speaker 1>Swedie din Zack Sharp recognize that name. It sounds vaguely familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger's son. Yeah, he's the number three player in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Number four Danielle Celestino Axiarty, what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>He's Italian, he's before Jorgan Home is also Swedish. He's

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<v Speaker 1>number five. There's a Canadian at six, a Sweet at seven,

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<v Speaker 1>then eight through twenty save one are all Americans and

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<v Speaker 1>number twenties Josh Sharp. So his sons followed in his footsteps.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, and are both top twenty ranked players. And

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<v Speaker 1>I bet Josh is supers jealous. Maybe maybe Josh is

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<v Speaker 1>also He's like, I want to be a veterin area,

0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.679
<v Speaker 1>so I'm paying more attention to that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe so. Um So, pinball was saved by Roger Sharp,

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<v Speaker 1>and um pinball just kept going on and on. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>it had its golden day age. It's widely believed between

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight, but it was also huge in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>huge in the eighties, and then video games came along

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden pinball was like uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>it started to decline and decline and decline and decline,

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<v Speaker 1>and all I think we were down to maybe five

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<v Speaker 1>major pinball machine producers, and by major I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones. Um no, because I mean it's all it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a lot of time and effort to manufacture of

0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:57.160
<v Speaker 1>functioning pinball game. Yeah. So, um, by the nineties there

0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.160
<v Speaker 1>were just a couple left. Everybody was selling off their

0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.320
<v Speaker 1>pinball divisions and there was a company called Bally Williams,

0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.280
<v Speaker 1>which were former competitors that emerged and this is what

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary Tilt is about. They went to their pinball

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<v Speaker 1>division and said, hey, you guys are great in the

0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:17.200
<v Speaker 1>pinball world, but the pinball world sucks. We want more

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:18.920
<v Speaker 1>money out of you guys. What are you gonna do?

0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Is that pinball two thousands? Yes, they came up with

0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 1>pinball two thousand. They said, we will give you a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to save yourselves. Figure out what will revive pinball

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 1>for they and they came up with Pinball two thousand. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically a hybrid of video gaming and pinball, where

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<v Speaker 1>you have a kind of a standard pinball set up,

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<v Speaker 1>but a video screen that's interactive as the back um

0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.359
<v Speaker 1>backdrop no on the playing field too, so like holograms

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>pop up on the on the playing board and like

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<v Speaker 1>run away from the ball and interact with the ball.

0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>It stinks, though, and no one liked it. Have you

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 1>played it? I haven't played it, but I saw videos

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of it and it didn't look like fun, and no

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 1>one liked it. So the thing is is like this

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<v Speaker 1>one article I read pointed out like it wasn't given

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to flourish, Like the idea was great, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they pulled it off successfully it was

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<v Speaker 1>really something. Well, they built only two games, right, and

0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I think each one had a few thousand production run. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was Star Wars episode one, which here's my

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:25.360
<v Speaker 1>theory the reason Pinball two thousand went nowhere charge R Biggs. Yeah,

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the other one was Revenge from Mars and um you

0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:33.240
<v Speaker 1>can still find those used today. Um. But despite the

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 1>fact that Pinball two thousand was created, it was it

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>was okay as far as successes go. Um. Bally Williams

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the plug, which left one company stern. Uh. There's

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy named Michael Stern, I believe, who inherited his

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 1>father's business and um became the only people making pinball

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>machines in the world. Still. No, yeah, man, had we

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<v Speaker 1>been have we been recording this two years ago, we

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.879
<v Speaker 1>would have basically been saying, like, pinball's dead, it's on

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>its last leg. There's one company making it. They've started

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<v Speaker 1>to lay off their designers because of the economic crisis.

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Some of those designers went on, some of the Stern

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Vets went on and founded a company called Jersey Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the first time in many many years, there

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<v Speaker 1>are more than one pinball manufacturer. There's too, right, but

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the competition has caused Stern to go back and rehire

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people they laid off, come up with

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<v Speaker 1>new designs, and um they are there's a pinball renaissance

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and nascent pinball renaissance just beginning to bud that could happen. Well,

0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:50.400
<v Speaker 1>pinball is definitely a sort of an end thing now. Um,

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:54.120
<v Speaker 1>if you're super cool and you have some money, then

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you might have a pinball machine in your house like

0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>my brother. Um. It is a Apparently Sterns ratio of

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<v Speaker 1>home sales to commercials sales has risen from thy percent

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to six of their total sales. So the market now

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>isn't for arcades, because what are those. The market is

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<v Speaker 1>for the person who has enough money to buy a

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:21.440
<v Speaker 1>pinball machine. You don't have to Well, yeah, if you

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>want a new one, it's gonna cost you, But if

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you want like a vintage one, it's I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds still. I mean that's a decent amount of money,

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.719
<v Speaker 1>but the high like the Adams family wants less than

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand. Man, that's the one that you need in

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the house. Yeah. So, um, I think my brother actually

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>refurbished his. I think, I think I'm right. I think

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>they weren't even working and he was able to fix them. Um. Yeah,

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I imagine you can get him for way less because

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>these are like fully refurbished, like polished, ready to go

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.840
<v Speaker 1>one um and a lot of them are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>come from overseas because the demand in intege collectors UM

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>items are like is rising so much that like seventy

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>of them come from overseas. They're re importing them back

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to America. Well, and it's big in Europe because I mean,

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>as evidence from that top ten, h two or three

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of them were European Swede Swedes look at them. So

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll get into how pinball actually works right after this.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 1>All right, So we've talked a lot about the history

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of pinball, which is way more interesting than I thought

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>it would be. But um, we haven't talked about the

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>game because I assume everybody has played pinball. But if

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.959
<v Speaker 1>you haven't, we're gonna break it down. Yeah, and it's

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 1>actually it's pretty simple if you really think about it.

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:45.120
<v Speaker 1>There's two real components to the game. Now ever since

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>time before, you seven flippers in the ball. Uh yeah.

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Everything else is just kind of ornamentation or whatever. But

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to play pinball, you need flippers and the ball because

0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the point of pinball is too score points using the

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.639
<v Speaker 1>ball bouncing off of obstacles and all that stuff. And

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>then to prevent the ball from going down the drain

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>using the flippers. That's right there, you got flippers in

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the ball. That's right. You've got your flippers, um, typically

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the playfield, which is what it's called,

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>directly above the drain on both sides. Um. A lot

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of games you'll see now have other flippers on the

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>upper right and upper left that also do fun things,

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>um like flip the ball. But you know a lot

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of times the ones at the top will flip it

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>into the very special chamber where you can score tons

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>of points. We'll get to the scoring here in a minute. Um,

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>And you basically want to propel the ball up with

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>your little plunger and then all the bumpers and ramps

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>are there to score your points. And um, it makes

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of noise, it's a lot of fun, and

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>that's beIN ball. Yeah, I mean that's it for me.

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>This article on how stuff works pointed out, like you know,

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about scoring, which we'll talk about later,

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that's like doesn't mean anything to people who are playing pinball,

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>most of us, because I'm just trying to keep the

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 1>ball from going down the train. Um. But the way

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that pinball's arranged, as you get better and better at it,

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you'll learn that, Um, there are all sorts of combinations

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and tricks and stuff that you can do to really

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>score some points. We'll get to that later on. I

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>get ahead of myself. That's right. The ball itself, if

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to just talk hardware, it's one and one

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>sixteen inches in diameter. It's steel in a ways, about

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>two point eight ounces and can reach speeds up the

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>ninety miles an hour when you see that thing shoot

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 1>out of a one of the little chambers that will

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>come back at you. It's going really fast, and that

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>is um. Sometimes it will use magnets underneath the table too,

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>because since it's a steel ball, you'll sometimes see a

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>game that has like a like a spinning disk, like

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a vortex in the center of the table that will

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>start at any given moment and it can catch your

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>ball and keep your ball there with its magnet just

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of spinning in place, which is no good or

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 1>it could be super good, depending on what you're after. Uh.

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they do use a ceramic pinball called the powerball,

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and it is lighter and faster and immune to magnets.

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of times when you'll have multi ball

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 1>going on, some of those other balls are ceramic, and

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that's when things get crazy. So as the ball is

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>going around the table, um, it's hitting the bumpers, it's

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>hitting the targets, and they're sending messages to them. Well,

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>if it's post seventies six game to the motherboard that's

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>keeping track of your score and all that jazz, and

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you've only got the three balls, that's that's a game. Yes,

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>But there are circumstances where you can get more which

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>will tell later. So Chuck, there's also another component you

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have to have to play pinball, but all pinball

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>games have it now. It's called the black box. And

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>if you look at a pinball table, you've got the

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>field right, Yeah, the playfield, which is the board that

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>has all of the bumpers and the stuff and the

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>flippers and everything on it. And then at a right

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>angle to that, coming off of it, you've got what's

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 1>called the back glass. And connecting the two is called

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the black box. And this is where all of your

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>electronics and your solid state stuff goes. Yeah, your backglass

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 1>is not only gonna have your scoreboard and your information,

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Like they'll say things like aim for the aim for

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the canyon. You know, they'll give you hints and little

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>tricks along the way. Look out for the t rex

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>look out for the t rex um. But it's also

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to the backglasses where like, if you're walking through your

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>arcade in its that's where you're gonna see, That's where

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>your attention is gonna go. So that's where you see

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the Playboy models on both sides of you Hefner or

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>kiss looking cool so it's it's sort of an advertisement. Hey,

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>come put your quarters into me. It's shiny, it's colorful.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>It's been money designing those things, and uh, a lot

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>of those have become art. Now they'll remove them and

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>frame them and hang them on the wall, which would

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>be wicked cool, I think it would be. But I'd

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>rather have the actual pinball game. Yeah sure. Um. So,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>like I said, back in the seventies, they they introduced

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>solid state electronics. Prior to that, all pinball machines were

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>electro mechanical. And at first, when I was researching this,

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought like, well, okay, so solid state took over everything.

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>That's not the case. Solid state took over basically the

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>back class. Everything else is still electro mechanical, or it

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>was up until the very very very recent times, although

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>they still might be electro mechanical. So, um, when you

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>hit a bumper with your ball and it makes it

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like bounce and vibrate and you get some points, that's

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>because you set an electrical impulse using an electro mechanical

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>assembly to the motherboard, the solid state motherboard that's keeping score.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.959
<v Speaker 1>So the motherboard is now keeping score. It's um. Now

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>they can use digital sounds, so they could add speakers

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to the back glass and all the stuff, but the

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>actual function of the the pinball machine while you're playing

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is still electro mechanical. Yeah, that's old school. Uh. And

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>there's about a half a mile of wiring in each one.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And um, if you come over to my brothers, he

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>will show you the guts. He has his rigged where

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>you can pull down the back back glass look under

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the hood. Yeah, basically, and you know it just looks

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>like a huge mess of wires and half as a lot.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty crazy. Um does he wear like a chain

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>wallet when he works on his pa? I don't know. Maybe.

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh So the playfield itself, which is what everything is on,

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>is tilted at about six to seven degrees towards you,

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and it is made of wood. And it's also very

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>old school, you know, so at some point someone makes

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>this like a wood based like cornhole, and it's got

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>holes drilled in it, and it's got stuff painted on

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>it and a bunch of layers of finish to keep it,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, to protect it and to make that ball go. Yeah,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>but I mean that's basically it. It's pretty simple. Yes,

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>some of the very newer ones um I guess from

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the twenty for century replaced the wood playing field with

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>um uh, plasma screens or LCD screens. Yeah, but you

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>know kids today, no thanks, um. But other than that,

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like screws and glue and would it's just it's

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>fairly old school. Yeah, and still like entertaining. Pinball's challenging.

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>That's why you hate pinball two thousand. Huh it was newfangled, Yeah, totally, like, hey,

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>let's take something awesome and make it new for everybody.

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I hate that. You know, it's like taking some

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>classic drink. Like you're a cocktail guy, so you know,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>let's add you know, let's had some some new oxygen

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>eated something to the Manhattan. You're like, no, Manhattan's perfect.

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, oxygenated something. I just hate every Like,

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>some things are perfect the way they are, and I

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>think pinball is one of them. So, Chuck, you approached

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the pin ball machine, you put your quarters in and everything, um,

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and you either so you press the start button or well,

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>once you press the start button, a ball should fall

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>into the launch lane, which is the at the back

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of the launch lane is the plunger and some of

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the newer games, there's a solenoid which shoots it for

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you like a like a gun handle, trigger and stuff,

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>instead of the plunger. Very clever, but again I'm into

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the like the plunger. Um one way or another, you're

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>going to launch the ball. The advantage of a solenoid

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that launches it for your with the press of a

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>button is that if you are playing a game and

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you're pretty good and the pinball machine decides it wants

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to see what kind of a wizard you are, it

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>will send more balls into action. The way it does

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that these days is by using a solenoid. In olden

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>days before the solenoid, say the eighties, Um, it's a

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>little man inside. Well, you had to pull the plunger

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>back yourself, and that meant you had to take your

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>finger off of a flip for button. K man, Hey man,

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you better be quick. I kind of forgot about that,

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>or you're dead. Yeah, that's why solenoids. That's the advantage

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>they have. Yeah, I'll take that umu advancement that passes

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>my bar. The solenoid is good. So let's talk about

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>actual pinball play after this message. Chuck okay, scoring in pinball,

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.239
<v Speaker 1>like you said earlier, If you're a regular shmo like us,

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>we're just trying to keep that ball on the table.

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>But if you are a pinball wizard, then that means

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you know the game within the game and all the

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>combination shots that you're specifically trying to hit in order

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to rack up the big, big big points. This is

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>nuts to me. I have to tell you, I didn't

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>even know that this existed until Yeah, I knew. I

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>just you know, like, that's how poor my pinball playing is. Now.

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not any good either, But you you is

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>your brother good? So you've seen him, Yeah, he's better

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>than me. So they used this um in this article

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to use the example of a game called high Roller Pinball,

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and basically imagine this. While you're playing high Roller, um,

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you basically want to knock out some icons that are

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>associated with poker. Once you've hit all the icons with

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the ball or something like that, so there're tiles that

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you knock down or whatever. Once you've hit them all,

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you've unlocked a game within a game. Yeah, and I

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>think it starts with poker, and all of a sudden,

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you're playing pinball while you're also playing poker on the

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>back class. Yeah, so like you're trying to hit a

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>specific thing that will give you a specific card and

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a poker hand, let's say, And like you have to

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>be you know, you have to You're trying to do

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>this with your flippers game of skill, like we said, right,

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, you're still playing your pinball

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>game too, right, Well, I mean it's part of the game.

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>So like you know, you'll know you've got the cards

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>up on the backglass and I'll say, all right, I

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>gotta hit that bumper to get a king. I'm aiming

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>for that king the whole time. Okay, So if your

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>brain hasn't melted yet, prepare for the finish. Once poker's done,

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>there's like four or five other casino games that you

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>play after that, and you play them in succession and

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and as you win them, you get closer and closer

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 1>to this um special play mode called Casino Frenzy. That's

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>what it's called in the high Roller Machine. Yeah, that's

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>after you've won all the game, the poker games not,

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, all the games, and so you're playing Casino Frenzy,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's what's called a Wizard Award where it's like, Okay,

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>this kid's good. Now we're gonna really let them or

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>her up their points by playing a special round. And

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the field is like flooded with

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>balls and every bumper you hit is worth like hundreds

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of points and it's just scary and terrified. Yeah,

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>multi ball is stressful for a guy like me. Same here, man,

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I just try and keep you know what happens to

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 1>me and multi ball is I'll usually lose them all

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. Like I can't even hold onto the one

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>because it just it stimulates me too much. I'm like,

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>what what happened? Me too? And I'm like, as long

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>as I've got one, I'm break even. But with um,

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>with Wizard Award functions, um, that's when you start to

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>earn even more points. But imagine having like three or

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>four or five balls on the field and the computer

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>in the machine is telling you, like, hit this combination

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and we'll give you like twenty million points. And um,

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're even in Wizard Award ball, you're a pretty

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>good pinball player, I would imagine for sure. And that's

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>just the high roller game. But most games have a

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of games within the game that you should look

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>out for and um, that's how you get your free game.

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 1>If you've ever uh locked up or been super good

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and gotten um, you know, they'll tell you on the

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>backglass how much you have to have, like replay value

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty million um. And that's what you're shooting for because

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to get that free game, not just because

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a quarter or whatever, but because it's like a

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>big award. You know. It's like entering your name on

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the in the top ten in Galica. Right yeah, Um,

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.879
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't understand this. When you get a free game,

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>is that like three free balls or one extra ball?

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it's three. I think it's a full free game.

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>That would make sense. That's why they keeps calling it

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like reset R. Yeah. You can also fall backwards

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>into a free game with something called match where I

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<v Speaker 1>had never heard of this. Every once a while, the

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>computer will just flash like a random number between what

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>zero zero and ninety I think, yeah, multiple of ten

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and um, if the last two digits of your score

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>at that moment happened to match that number, then you

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>win a free game. It's like a little lotto game.

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think I've gotten a free game that way,

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>because I remember getting free games before. But being like,

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>how did I get a free game? I must, I

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.399
<v Speaker 1>must have hit the mat. You like just turned into

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Christopher walking in the dead zone. I saw that not

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<v Speaker 1>too long ago. That holds up do um. But as

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<v Speaker 1>far as replay goes, it says that most machines are

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<v Speaker 1>set so you have to be in the top ten

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to get a replay, and you can get a second replay,

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>but they have it maxed out at a hundred and

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>fifty of the first, so a double replay is tough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're Tommy at that point, or your last

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>name is Sharp Yeah, I guess so. Um. And then tilt, chuck,

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, tilt, it's synonymous with pinball. Tilt is where

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you are being well, basically where you've been punishing the machine.

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>The machine says enough, hands off, man, and basically, like

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>we were saying early pinball machines, Um, the only way

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you can manipulate them before the flippers was to move

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the machine. You can bump it. So the tilt mechanism

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>has been in place to prevent people from overly cheating

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>by tilting the machine. By it's really the old timey contraption,

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>and I guess it's still in use. It's pretty funny

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>how old school it is. Basically, they have like I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>like a copper copper wire with a circle on the end,

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<v Speaker 1>a ring on the end, and dangling in the ring

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 1>but not touching. It is like a metal ballast, right,

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's connected to the machine. So as long as

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the ballast is just swinging around freely within the ring,

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you can tilt as much as you like, and a

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>skilled player knows how to tilt without getting caught, right,

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it's part of the game. But once you tilt too

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>far and the metal ballast touches the copper ring, a

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>current is formed and all of a sudden it sends

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>that to the motherboard, and the motherboards is tilt. This

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>is your first warning, and apparently most modern games give

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you two warnings, and then the flipper stop working and

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you lose your ball, and that's just losing one ball.

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 1>If you really get upset, if your ball is stuck,

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>or if you're just having a bad day at the

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.720
<v Speaker 1>office and you pick up the front of the machine

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and slam it down, that's called a slam tilt. And

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>they have these little leaf switches inside the machine for

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that and if they touch each other, that means you

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:15.479
<v Speaker 1>have really taken things too far, and that is shut

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 1>it down. No game, not worth taking your ball. They're saying,

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 1>leave the machine. You're not gonna win any cigarettes doing

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that exactly. And that's the uh, that's the slam tilt.

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 1>That's pinball, baby, Yeah, I got nothing else. I don't either.

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>This is very exciting. I'm glad we finally did it.

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It's been on my list forever ever since I found

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>out it was illegal. Yeah, you're like, oh, I I

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>gotta get into that. But that was like a couple

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of years ago. I feel like, yeah, when I saw

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a special winlet, nice man, everybody go see that? Is

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that on the old Netflix? I believe it is tilt?

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Definitely is all right. I think special Winlet might be

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to add that to the former queue, which they had

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>to change because Americans are dumb. What do they call

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it now? It's not called a list because people are like,

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>what's a queue? Really? Why was it spelled like that?

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't noticed that they did that. Oh my goodness, Yeah,

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I've heard. That's the reason. It makes sense to me.

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't verify that though. Uh well, if you want

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>to learn more about pinball, go check out special when

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>let go check out kill check out the popular Mechanics

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>article we mentioned eleven things you didn't know about pinball history.

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty awesome. And of course check out the article

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>on how stuff works dot Com. Go to the search

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<v Speaker 1>bar and type in pinball and it will bring up

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>this article. Since I said search bar, it's time for

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>listener mail. Yeah, this is via Facebook. Actually, um, in

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>regards to our more Gallon's podcast, because one of our

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>is it funny? I think it's more Gelan's. But you

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>are literally the only person on the planet that calls

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it that fine, Um, Tyler Murphy are one of the generals.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>And the stuff you should know army and Facebook and

0:41:55.840 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>email friend uh pinged, I guess a doctor end of

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 1>his name, Chris Wells, and I was like, hey, dude,

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>check this out. Do you know anything about this? And

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>so he commented on there. I was like, hey, this

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>is a listener mail. Can I use it? And he

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>said yes. So he says he's only come across it twice.

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>In both cases they brought stuff in, telling me it

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>was eggs and bugs, eye along with my med technologists

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>reviewed it under a microscope and it was mainly lent

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and hair follicles. One had some insight that it was

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>not an actual infection and felt relieved. The other was

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>very upset that I suggested otherwise, so he kind of

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.240
<v Speaker 1>got both ends of the spectrum. I would never treat

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>um with an antiseptic I'm sorry anti parasitic med if

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was a real infection. The risk

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of causing harm versus fixing anything it's too high. Anti

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>parasit meds can have all kinds of unwanted effects, from

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>kidney and liver impairment, to lowering the threshold procedure to

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>potentially being carcinogenic themselves. For every case of monsters inside

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.800
<v Speaker 1>me on TLC that goes undiscovered and later as found

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to truly have a parasitic infection, there are many more

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:58.319
<v Speaker 1>for there is no physical evidence of infection because they're

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>simply not one. Uh. You feel really crappy as a

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.240
<v Speaker 1>physician though, when you have to tell someone that everything

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>they brought into your office is all dust and lent,

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that there is no physical evidence for their ailments. The

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>most important thing for a clinician. To remember is that

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>even if this is all in their head or imagine

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>or however you want to word it, the patient is

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 1>still experiencing it, which is what we pointed out. So

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>you need to try and treat the root cause, whether

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>it be with continued reassurance in second opinion, within reason,

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 1>or cognitive behavioral therapy or other means. And that is

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Chris Wells via our buddy Tyler Murphy. Cool. Thanks guys.

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Who Tyler is a teacher and in the summertime he

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<v Speaker 1>works at the Big Putt Putt chain Putt Putt. No,

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that's it's like the Big Adventure Land or what I

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>can't remember what it's called Hire Pirates Cove. Is that

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>a chain? I don't know, it sounds like a chain. Anyway,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what he does. Since it sounds like fun, It's like, man,

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I could totally do that would be yeah. Well, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much you guys in uh, anyone else out

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