WEBVTT - Lots to Say: Singer and Actor Tim McGraw 0:00:05.496 --> 0:00:07.696 Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is 0:00:07.736 --> 0:00:10.616 a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. 0:00:12.135 --> 0:00:16.936 We got lots just say we got lost. 0:00:17.336 --> 0:00:18.096 Just said. 0:00:20.616 --> 0:00:21.136 What a bat? 0:00:21.896 --> 0:00:26.016 And we poked you say because we got lost, Just sa, 0:00:27.376 --> 0:00:28.456 yeah we got lost. 0:00:28.816 --> 0:00:32.656 Just say, here's Bobby. 0:00:32.656 --> 0:00:34.016 That said everybody. 0:00:34.095 --> 0:00:36.815 Tim McGrath coming up in just a little bit, major 0:00:36.896 --> 0:00:39.895 athlete timcgaw was a major athlete, one of those annoying guys. 0:00:39.936 --> 0:00:41.615 But you're like this too, You're annoying, brother man. 0:00:41.815 --> 0:00:42.016 Thank you. 0:00:42.056 --> 0:00:44.696 I appreciate that that you're tall, you're good looking. You 0:00:44.736 --> 0:00:48.336 could play every sport. No basketball was never myself, but 0:00:48.376 --> 0:00:50.656 you played college baseball, you played football, You could have 0:00:50.696 --> 0:00:51.256 played basketball. 0:00:51.296 --> 0:00:51.896 You're six or four. 0:00:51.976 --> 0:00:54.736 It's like God like had had beans that could go 0:00:54.736 --> 0:00:56.696 in two jars, and he like put too many in 0:00:56.736 --> 0:00:57.096 your jar. 0:00:57.656 --> 0:00:59.856 And I'm like, dude, I got like a third over here, 0:01:00.256 --> 0:01:00.615 you know what. 0:01:00.736 --> 0:01:02.456 I could play a little pick up basketball, but I'm 0:01:02.456 --> 0:01:03.856 always the guy in the low post because I can't 0:01:03.896 --> 0:01:06.576 shoot to save my life. And I've always been jealous 0:01:06.576 --> 0:01:08.776 of those guys that come out and they could be 0:01:08.776 --> 0:01:10.696 any height in there out there on the the arc. 0:01:10.896 --> 0:01:13.496 Just don't talk about being jealous of athletes because I'm 0:01:13.456 --> 0:01:14.016 sitting next to you. 0:01:14.056 --> 0:01:19.136 This is no I'm basketball athletes. I am jealous of period. 0:01:19.376 --> 0:01:21.136 It's like you have you had all the traits to 0:01:21.176 --> 0:01:24.056 be a successful quarterback, because I don't think you can 0:01:24.096 --> 0:01:26.376 be a truly successful quarterback and be ugly. 0:01:27.456 --> 0:01:27.896 In the face. 0:01:28.056 --> 0:01:31.935 I've seen a few, very few, very few, very few 0:01:32.336 --> 0:01:34.456 like Roethlisberger. 0:01:34.456 --> 0:01:37.496 Probably not the best looking dude he's but he's above average. 0:01:37.496 --> 0:01:39.896 Though he's above average. Yeah, I'm not even saying he's ugly. 0:01:39.896 --> 0:01:42.336 But when I think of like quarterbacks that aren't like chisel, 0:01:42.536 --> 0:01:45.856 like you got the chisel, you got, the height, you 0:01:45.936 --> 0:01:48.376 got the obviously, the work ethic that's there. 0:01:48.376 --> 0:01:49.296 I'm not taking anything up. 0:01:49.296 --> 0:01:50.656 I would say that that. 0:01:50.376 --> 0:01:52.656 You can't be a premier quarterback without being good looking. 0:01:53.336 --> 0:01:56.056 Lamar is good looking, Josh Allen's good looking, Joe Burrow 0:01:56.096 --> 0:01:56.616 is good looking. 0:01:56.936 --> 0:02:00.056 Keep going, I'm good. Jimmy Garoppolo the best. 0:02:00.376 --> 0:02:02.976 But you have to have certain elements you do have 0:02:03.016 --> 0:02:04.416 to have, and I don't think you had all the 0:02:04.736 --> 0:02:05.376 we ever grow up. 0:02:05.656 --> 0:02:08.096 No, I was, but yes, I know him pretty well. 0:02:08.175 --> 0:02:09.576 We've used to work out in the off season. 0:02:09.615 --> 0:02:11.096 But I would be annoyed by him too. He's just 0:02:11.175 --> 0:02:11.816 so good looking. 0:02:11.895 --> 0:02:14.816 Yeah, he he's got something to him, for sure. 0:02:14.896 --> 0:02:16.056 I want to talk quarterbacks. 0:02:16.376 --> 0:02:19.856 Oh what part of them? Well, what aspects? What partial structure? 0:02:20.256 --> 0:02:22.496 I want to talk about the three quarterbacks, Lamar, Joe Burrow, 0:02:22.496 --> 0:02:25.216 and Josh Oh gosh, because here we are group and 0:02:25.256 --> 0:02:25.696 we're talking. 0:02:25.776 --> 0:02:28.016 Yeah, like it's like a Golden age again. It is. 0:02:28.056 --> 0:02:30.856 It really is, because when you look at you know, 0:02:30.896 --> 0:02:35.175 you get through the Brady, the Breeze, the manning. That 0:02:35.336 --> 0:02:37.775 whole time period it was like, could we ever get 0:02:37.816 --> 0:02:38.256 back to this? 0:02:38.376 --> 0:02:40.496 And then you look at this crop of quarter heres 0:02:40.496 --> 0:02:40.816 that we have. 0:02:40.976 --> 0:02:42.136 It's crept up. We're here again. 0:02:42.216 --> 0:02:43.296 It's unbelievable. 0:02:43.576 --> 0:02:47.336 So the MVP is obviously the topic of discussion, and 0:02:47.376 --> 0:02:49.335 so I'm just going to read some stats here for 0:02:49.376 --> 0:02:52.175 a second. Lamar Jackson threw for forty one hundred yards. 0:02:52.216 --> 0:02:55.416 I believe you had the highest quarterback rating ever this year. 0:02:56.496 --> 0:03:00.816 Forty one touchdowns, four interceptions, ninety one and four and 0:03:00.896 --> 0:03:04.416 nine hundred and fifteen rush yards. That Joe Burrow has 0:03:04.496 --> 0:03:06.976 four thousand and nine hundred passing yards, So that's forty 0:03:07.056 --> 0:03:09.096 nine compared to Lamar's forty one so he does beat 0:03:09.136 --> 0:03:11.216 him in that forty three touchdowns, but. 0:03:11.096 --> 0:03:13.536 The pass I mean you have to add on with Lamar. 0:03:13.616 --> 0:03:14.056 The rushing. 0:03:14.096 --> 0:03:19.216 Oh, Laura had four rushing touchdowns, okay, where Burrow had 0:03:19.256 --> 0:03:22.576 two more passing touchdowns. But again, Burrow's not really in 0:03:22.576 --> 0:03:24.096 the conversation, but I'm going to put him in the 0:03:24.096 --> 0:03:26.736 conversation should be, which is why I put him in. 0:03:26.896 --> 0:03:27.816 Statistically speaking. 0:03:27.896 --> 0:03:31.256 Statistically speaking, Josh Allen thirty seven thirty one passing yards, 0:03:31.536 --> 0:03:36.016 so roughly four hundred yards less than Lamar, twenty eight touchdowns, 0:03:36.216 --> 0:03:39.416 six interceptions, five hundred and thirty one rushing yards, twelve 0:03:39.496 --> 0:03:44.336 rushing touchdowns. You're looking at three different If these happen 0:03:44.376 --> 0:03:46.336 in a vacuum, all three of them win the MVP. 0:03:46.976 --> 0:03:49.816 One hundred percent. Like there's no question about it. When 0:03:49.856 --> 0:03:52.816 you look everybody that you just mentioned played in the 0:03:52.896 --> 0:03:55.856 MVP caliber this season, it just happens to be the 0:03:55.936 --> 0:03:57.656 year that they all did it in the same year. 0:03:58.056 --> 0:03:59.656 When you look at Lamar and what he's able to 0:03:59.696 --> 0:04:01.856 do on the football field, there's nobody quite like him. 0:04:02.136 --> 0:04:05.896 Josh Allen, He's a unicorn, I mean, for being the 0:04:05.936 --> 0:04:09.616 size that he is, the arm strength, the talent, and 0:04:09.656 --> 0:04:11.656 I think he's taken his game to the next level 0:04:11.696 --> 0:04:15.936 because every year the defenses were able to configure something 0:04:15.976 --> 0:04:18.456 that gave him a little bit of difficulty. But this year, 0:04:18.736 --> 0:04:21.496 he's making great decisions, he's seeing the field well, and 0:04:21.536 --> 0:04:23.936 then also his ability to take off and make something 0:04:23.976 --> 0:04:26.936 out of nothing. I think what separates Josh Allen this 0:04:27.015 --> 0:04:29.616 year and what everybody keeps talking about is the fact 0:04:29.655 --> 0:04:32.575 that when you look at the weapons on the outside, 0:04:33.376 --> 0:04:35.776 it's not comparable to what you're dealing with with Joe 0:04:35.856 --> 0:04:37.496 Burrow or Lamar Jackson. 0:04:37.536 --> 0:04:38.056 It's just not. 0:04:38.215 --> 0:04:40.815 Which is why is probably going to win the MVP. 0:04:41.015 --> 0:04:43.376 He's the favorite right now, right even though Lamar has 0:04:43.376 --> 0:04:47.416 had a history type season, And I'm not declaring yet 0:04:47.416 --> 0:04:49.655 who I would vote for as MVP, but I'm saying 0:04:49.895 --> 0:04:52.416 Josh Allen is also the betting favorite right now because 0:04:52.895 --> 0:04:55.416 there's a two seed. He does not have Derrick Henry, 0:04:55.455 --> 0:04:58.376 does not have the receivers that Lamar has or Joe Burrow, 0:04:59.496 --> 0:05:02.856 and he threw for thirty seven thirty twenty eight and 0:05:02.895 --> 0:05:05.895 twelve rushing touchdowns. Now you're gonna have this that people 0:05:05.895 --> 0:05:09.136 that go Lamar outperformed him in most areas except for 0:05:09.215 --> 0:05:11.575 rushing touchdowns, but Baltimore did not win as much and 0:05:11.616 --> 0:05:13.736 he had better weapons. Now is that an argument. 0:05:14.215 --> 0:05:17.295 It's an argument because you're the most valuable player based 0:05:17.335 --> 0:05:19.936 on the team that surrounds you. Because as a quarterback, 0:05:20.376 --> 0:05:23.216 you do have to have a group of skilled players 0:05:23.215 --> 0:05:26.536 around you that can make plays on a consistent basis. Obviously, 0:05:26.616 --> 0:05:29.815 these guys all elevate those guys around him. But Jamar Chase, 0:05:30.096 --> 0:05:31.496 he had a historical season. 0:05:32.255 --> 0:05:33.536 Higgins, he killed it this year. 0:05:33.616 --> 0:05:37.095 He's if Jamar I mean, Jamar Chase is number one 0:05:37.215 --> 0:05:40.655 t Higgins is one double A like he is right 0:05:40.695 --> 0:05:42.856 there next to him. He'll be paid as a number 0:05:42.856 --> 0:05:45.575 one wide receiver and be another market guy next year 0:05:45.815 --> 0:05:48.376 if he's not back with the Bengals. So he had 0:05:48.416 --> 0:05:50.496 two number one wide receivers. Then when you look at 0:05:50.575 --> 0:05:53.135 Josh Allen, there's a lot of youth on the outside 0:05:53.655 --> 0:05:56.656 and a lot of young guys that he took those 0:05:56.695 --> 0:05:58.815 guys to the next level and put them on his back. 0:05:58.815 --> 0:06:02.056 And without Josh Allen, that team's nowhere near where they 0:06:02.496 --> 0:06:03.496 are at the end of the season. 0:06:03.695 --> 0:06:04.416 Who's your vote. 0:06:05.736 --> 0:06:08.136 I'm gonna stick with Josh Allen. I just I just 0:06:09.096 --> 0:06:11.255 he performed at such a high level throughout the course 0:06:11.255 --> 0:06:13.575 of the year. They are where they are because of 0:06:13.616 --> 0:06:18.015 his play, and also without him, I don't think they 0:06:18.096 --> 0:06:19.135 might be a five hundred team. 0:06:20.376 --> 0:06:23.535 I agree with you, and I also picked Josh Allen, 0:06:23.575 --> 0:06:26.655 but I get annoyed for lamar In the people aren't 0:06:26.655 --> 0:06:28.776 going to vote for him because he's won it before 0:06:28.815 --> 0:06:30.855 and won last year, and like that should not be 0:06:30.895 --> 0:06:32.496 a part of the conversation. 0:06:32.616 --> 0:06:34.775 Should never be. He won, so he wouldn't win, he 0:06:34.775 --> 0:06:35.536 shouldn't win again. 0:06:35.575 --> 0:06:39.255 I think that's the most loser mentality, right, Like if 0:06:39.056 --> 0:06:41.536 it's like when they wouldn't give Belichick Coach of the 0:06:41.616 --> 0:06:43.736 Year because he'd won it so many times, or Angela 0:06:43.856 --> 0:06:46.216 Jolie Hottest person Alive people magaz get for like three 0:06:46.215 --> 0:06:48.056 they wouldn't give you he ever again because she'd already had it. 0:06:48.895 --> 0:06:51.256 Let's let's give people the awards they deserve, even if 0:06:51.296 --> 0:06:53.455 if they deserve it every year until someone else wins. 0:06:54.015 --> 0:06:56.615 But I do think Josh, for the reason that you stated, 0:06:56.856 --> 0:07:00.456 he just did not have the help, got them the 0:07:00.455 --> 0:07:05.255 two seed and actually made them a lot a lot better. 0:07:05.416 --> 0:07:07.295 Thought what Peyton Manny did with a lot of those guys. 0:07:07.215 --> 0:07:09.816 Right, some of those games. I mean, all these guys 0:07:09.856 --> 0:07:10.696 take over games. 0:07:11.096 --> 0:07:14.976 I think Lamar and Josh the separator for them is 0:07:15.296 --> 0:07:17.616 their ability to take off and run the football and 0:07:17.696 --> 0:07:19.616 make plays when nothing else is there. And that's the 0:07:19.616 --> 0:07:22.376 most frustrating thing for any defense is when you're sitting there, 0:07:22.376 --> 0:07:24.736 you've got the perfect coverage called You've got it all 0:07:24.936 --> 0:07:28.816 taken care of. In any other ordinary quarterback or quarterback 0:07:28.816 --> 0:07:32.736 in the NFL, they it's shut down right the ball 0:07:32.776 --> 0:07:34.376 you'd see their sack. You got to throw the ball away, 0:07:34.416 --> 0:07:35.975 do something like that where all of a sudden they 0:07:36.016 --> 0:07:38.616 scramble out, they make a play, they go take off 0:07:38.616 --> 0:07:41.616 for thirty thirty yards and just break a defensive spirit. 0:07:41.696 --> 0:07:44.736 And that's the special unique qualities that those two guys possess. 0:07:44.976 --> 0:07:47.215 And Joe Burrow, don't get me wrong, not taking anything 0:07:47.256 --> 0:07:49.496 away from he's just not the same athlete, but he 0:07:49.536 --> 0:07:50.536 does it in a different way. 0:07:50.576 --> 0:07:52.416 I mean, through for almost five thousand yards. 0:07:52.456 --> 0:07:53.256 It's absurd. 0:07:53.256 --> 0:07:55.376 He had no defense, no defense they had. 0:07:55.816 --> 0:07:58.696 They had no defense, like they had to outscore everybody 0:07:58.736 --> 0:08:02.095 he had. His margin of error was so small because 0:08:02.096 --> 0:08:04.096 if he had a mid game, they for sure were 0:08:04.096 --> 0:08:04.936 going to lose right. 0:08:05.416 --> 0:08:07.896 I mean they lost one game with a botch snap 0:08:07.936 --> 0:08:09.576 on a field goal for a game win a field goal. 0:08:09.936 --> 0:08:11.776 The New England game was the only game in which 0:08:11.776 --> 0:08:14.215 he really struggled where the offense didn't get it going. 0:08:14.296 --> 0:08:16.136 Other than that, you go back even the Kansas City 0:08:16.215 --> 0:08:19.215 Chiefs game early in the season, they throw up a 0:08:19.376 --> 0:08:21.536 prayer at the end of the game, the guy makes 0:08:21.536 --> 0:08:23.376 a contact sets up the long field goal at the 0:08:23.456 --> 0:08:23.816 end of the game. 0:08:23.856 --> 0:08:26.096 They lose that game. So they lost. What were they 0:08:26.136 --> 0:08:28.016 early to start the season, they had won. 0:08:27.896 --> 0:08:30.376 In four I think they won four and then it 0:08:30.456 --> 0:08:32.175 just got worse because they were like, well, you can't 0:08:32.176 --> 0:08:35.216 lose anymore. Yeah, They're like, well, really, I can't lose 0:08:35.256 --> 0:08:38.936 anymore if any of those guys have that season independent 0:08:38.976 --> 0:08:40.935 of the other two guys. They're all three the MVP, 0:08:41.055 --> 0:08:42.856 and we're like, this is one of the greatest seasons 0:08:43.096 --> 0:08:45.136 in quarterback history, but all three are at the same time. 0:08:45.295 --> 0:08:48.975 It is the Golden Age. It's the redeemed team of quarterbacks. 0:08:48.976 --> 0:08:49.856 It's unbelievable. 0:09:05.496 --> 0:09:10.496 There's a video from like two years ago. Tim mcgrawl myself, 0:09:10.736 --> 0:09:14.576 we were in Vegas. It was a professional setting. I know, 0:09:14.616 --> 0:09:16.696 I'm lucky enough to know Tim faith pretty well. 0:09:17.736 --> 0:09:18.335 He's awesome. 0:09:19.295 --> 0:09:21.776 I've heard nothing amazing things about him. 0:09:21.856 --> 0:09:24.176 Yeah, and I didn't know him in his wild timocraw 0:09:24.295 --> 0:09:27.096 days only. I only know him when in his I'm 0:09:27.096 --> 0:09:28.776 going to be an adult and be really cool person days. 0:09:28.776 --> 0:09:30.496 Because some people like he used to go hard, like 0:09:30.496 --> 0:09:31.896 from what I hear, I actually kind of want to 0:09:31.896 --> 0:09:34.736 see that side of it. Well, I don't have the story. 0:09:34.776 --> 0:09:35.736 You don't want to bring it up. 0:09:36.016 --> 0:09:37.535 But at the same time, you don't want him to 0:09:37.535 --> 0:09:39.376 go back into that dark place or maybe. 0:09:39.175 --> 0:09:41.216 Like him, but she has any punching horses and stuff like, 0:09:41.256 --> 0:09:43.336 I don't know that version. And people are like, oh, 0:09:43.376 --> 0:09:49.695 you know, Mara, I know, super cool, super nice, extremely 0:09:50.456 --> 0:09:53.336 generous with this time timmogral and it's it's really cool 0:09:53.415 --> 0:09:53.655 that I know. 0:09:53.896 --> 0:09:56.936 So he came on, but he was a crazy athlete. 0:09:56.935 --> 0:09:58.535 But the story is we were in Vegas together and 0:09:58.535 --> 0:09:59.975 we're hanging out a little before we're doing It's a 0:10:00.016 --> 0:10:02.016 professional and we're about to go it's a TV hit 0:10:02.295 --> 0:10:05.215 and I'm with Tim and I don't know one minute 0:10:05.216 --> 0:10:07.776 before or camera goes dude, and it's on video you 0:10:07.776 --> 0:10:09.455 see him take his fingers and put him into my 0:10:09.496 --> 0:10:11.655 nose and rip a nose hair out because it was 0:10:11.696 --> 0:10:13.056 a little longer than it should have been. 0:10:13.256 --> 0:10:14.416 Like, that's the kind of dude he is. 0:10:15.456 --> 0:10:17.736 You can tell he's a meticulous dude when it comes 0:10:17.776 --> 0:10:20.856 to just prep and making sure he looks right. 0:10:20.816 --> 0:10:22.736 And making sure his boy look good too. He went, 0:10:22.816 --> 0:10:25.016 thank god, he got that hair thumb and forefinger right 0:10:25.055 --> 0:10:25.856 into my nose hole. 0:10:25.935 --> 0:10:28.616 Didn't ask, didn't need to Tim McGraw's permission to go 0:10:28.655 --> 0:10:30.576 into any hole of mine with any fingers amount of fingers. 0:10:30.576 --> 0:10:34.096 He wants wide open so much he went in I 0:10:34.096 --> 0:10:36.016 have in the videos hilarious and he goes boom, rips 0:10:36.055 --> 0:10:38.456 it out and I go and they're like and go. 0:10:38.736 --> 0:10:39.256 Then we're on. 0:10:39.576 --> 0:10:43.576 And that is my relationship with Tim McGrath and crazy athlete. 0:10:43.576 --> 0:10:45.576 We're gonna talk about that here. He is now country 0:10:45.576 --> 0:10:52.535 superstar Tim McGrath. Hey, Tim, I didn't want to give 0:10:52.655 --> 0:10:55.095 all the details to Matt because I wanted you to 0:10:55.136 --> 0:10:56.856 do it because when you do it, it's awesome. 0:10:57.016 --> 0:10:59.456 Will you tell Matt, let's start with your basketball career. 0:10:59.576 --> 0:11:01.896 Would you mind throwing some stats at Matt about your 0:11:01.935 --> 0:11:03.376 basketball career in high school? 0:11:04.896 --> 0:11:07.696 Well, I know one particular stat you're talking about. I 0:11:07.736 --> 0:11:09.575 was a pretty good baller in high school, I think 0:11:09.896 --> 0:11:12.655 my senior year. And you know, you guys are a 0:11:12.696 --> 0:11:14.815 lot younger than me, so we didn't have three pointers 0:11:14.935 --> 0:11:17.576 when I was playing high school basketball. So so my 0:11:17.616 --> 0:11:19.376 senior year I think I have it was well, I know, 0:11:19.415 --> 0:11:20.695 I averaged twenty eight points a game. 0:11:20.896 --> 0:11:26.216 Twenty eight point yeah, i'd say classifies as baller status. 0:11:26.216 --> 0:11:29.736 Well yeah, yeah for a little guy. I mean I'm 0:11:29.856 --> 0:11:31.935 under six foot. Well, right, you are six foot on 0:11:31.976 --> 0:11:35.376 your program five or eleven, you know, regular. But but 0:11:35.535 --> 0:11:38.296 uh yeah, and I had I have one particularly good 0:11:38.336 --> 0:11:40.455 game where I scored fifty fours that. 0:11:40.496 --> 0:11:44.096 Was that's great. 0:11:44.415 --> 0:11:46.856 Did you ever think it wouldn't have It wouldn't have 0:11:46.935 --> 0:11:48.896 done any good for us to have three pointers anyway, 0:11:48.896 --> 0:11:51.496 because I couldn't shoot from the outside to save my ass, so. 0:11:51.655 --> 0:11:54.216 We never practiced it though, right, it's not you say that, 0:11:54.295 --> 0:11:56.096 but I imagine if there would have been a three 0:11:56.096 --> 0:11:58.016 point line. And like you do everything else, you are 0:11:58.055 --> 0:12:00.215 a perfectionist in many ways, and I'm sure you drive 0:12:00.256 --> 0:12:02.695 yourself crazy being such a perfectionist. Don't you know you'd 0:12:02.736 --> 0:12:04.976 have been in the gym for gym ratting it behind 0:12:04.976 --> 0:12:07.216 that three point to him, I. 0:12:07.175 --> 0:12:09.175 Would have, but I don't know that it would have 0:12:09.216 --> 0:12:11.776 done me much good, because anything out of fifteen feet 0:12:12.016 --> 0:12:15.455 I've had very good. I'd like to slash and drive. 0:12:15.776 --> 0:12:19.175 So you scored fifty four points with no three pointers 0:12:19.216 --> 0:12:23.216 and all within the fifteen feet of hitting the basket. 0:12:23.415 --> 0:12:24.376 That's that's incredible. 0:12:24.456 --> 0:12:26.535 Actually, you know, I might have stuck a twenty five 0:12:26.576 --> 0:12:28.655 footer in there every now, but most of the time 0:12:28.696 --> 0:12:31.575 we're slashing and driving. Yeah, you know, it's just one 0:12:31.576 --> 0:12:33.856 of those games, you know what I'm talking about, Matt 0:12:33.856 --> 0:12:37.096 when you just and you played ball too, Bobby, It's just, 0:12:37.216 --> 0:12:38.456 you know, one of those games where you sort of 0:12:38.456 --> 0:12:39.815 just sort of out of your body. And I had 0:12:39.816 --> 0:12:41.656 the flu that game as well, and I thought I 0:12:41.696 --> 0:12:43.456 did poorly. I saw the score. 0:12:44.776 --> 0:12:47.856 Being from Louisiana. 0:12:47.896 --> 0:12:52.696 Was there this Pete Maravich dream and you wanted to 0:12:52.736 --> 0:12:53.656 mimic that a bit? 0:12:54.935 --> 0:12:57.415 Yeah? I mean I grew up loving Pete Pistol Pete, 0:12:57.456 --> 0:13:00.656 you know, and in fact, that was sort of my 0:13:00.776 --> 0:13:03.576 nickname at basketball camp, and when I went to basketball 0:13:03.616 --> 0:13:06.376 camp a couple of years at Northeast Louisiana University which 0:13:06.415 --> 0:13:08.655 is now University of Louisiana Monroe, and that's where I 0:13:08.696 --> 0:13:10.856 ended up going to college. But I went to basketball 0:13:10.856 --> 0:13:12.376 camp there, and that was sort of my nickname was 0:13:12.415 --> 0:13:14.415 Pistol Peak. Not that I was playing as good as 0:13:14.456 --> 0:13:16.455 Pistol p because there were a lot better players than 0:13:16.496 --> 0:13:18.496 I was at that camp, just because I had the 0:13:18.535 --> 0:13:19.856 same sort of bowl haircut. 0:13:20.655 --> 0:13:23.095 Now, did you get recruited for anybody for basketball? 0:13:23.976 --> 0:13:27.136 I did? I had. I had five or six good offers. 0:13:27.136 --> 0:13:29.616 I had offers in all three sports, five or sist 0:13:29.616 --> 0:13:32.536 scients in basketball. But like I said, when I graduated 0:13:32.655 --> 0:13:35.496 high school, I was probably five ten barely and one 0:13:35.576 --> 0:13:40.016 hundred and forty pounds, so there wasn't much much use 0:13:40.055 --> 0:13:42.655 for me except for probably meat on the practice squad. 0:13:43.256 --> 0:13:46.656 Okay, give us your other high school career highlights. You 0:13:46.736 --> 0:13:50.415 said three different sports. I'm assuming baseball, football, basketball, because i' 0:13:50.415 --> 0:13:50.736 from the South. 0:13:50.736 --> 0:13:52.296 There's really only three we had. It wasn't like we 0:13:52.295 --> 0:13:52.896 had lacrosse. 0:13:52.935 --> 0:13:55.336 Yeah, he was the first one to break through in volleyball. 0:13:55.415 --> 0:13:59.056 Yeah, you're like, give us your give us a basketball, 0:13:59.496 --> 0:14:00.976 baseball highlight, and a football highlight. 0:14:02.256 --> 0:14:08.336 Let's see football highlight. Well, my second game in high school, 0:14:08.336 --> 0:14:10.856 I got concussed. On the first play. I was wide 0:14:10.856 --> 0:14:13.096 receiver and I was playing in a tight formation and 0:14:13.136 --> 0:14:16.376 gat blocked on the defensive tackle. Running back came through 0:14:16.415 --> 0:14:18.616 the hole and hit me in the head with his shoulder, 0:14:19.176 --> 0:14:20.896 So I was concussed for the rest of the game. 0:14:20.896 --> 0:14:23.816 But I got two interceptions and had three touchdown receptions, 0:14:23.856 --> 0:14:26.776 so I don't remember any other He. 0:14:26.816 --> 0:14:27.936 Had fifty four points. 0:14:28.856 --> 0:14:31.296 Yeah, he gets a concussion and he just balls out 0:14:31.336 --> 0:14:32.016 of his mind. 0:14:32.296 --> 0:14:36.176 Two interceptions. Unreal baseball. 0:14:36.376 --> 0:14:39.616 H my last time at bat in high school baseball, 0:14:39.696 --> 0:14:42.216 hit a home run, very last time. That's sort of 0:14:42.256 --> 0:14:44.696 my walk off baseball career right there. 0:14:45.256 --> 0:14:45.656 That's it. 0:14:45.736 --> 0:14:47.856 I mean, is there anything better than the close out 0:14:47.856 --> 0:14:48.136 a career? 0:14:48.736 --> 0:14:50.336 Now, you're now going to get calls from all my 0:14:50.416 --> 0:14:52.576 high school buddy say, you know, he's exaggerating. You know, 0:14:52.656 --> 0:14:54.856 that was twenty four points when he was twenty two. 0:14:54.936 --> 0:14:58.176 Now that he's now the fifty seven, it's fifty four points. 0:14:58.576 --> 0:15:00.056 So you know it, girls exponentially. 0:15:00.776 --> 0:15:01.216 I love it. 0:15:01.296 --> 0:15:03.536 You get get a little bit more every every single 0:15:03.616 --> 0:15:05.056 time that you get a little bit older. 0:15:05.456 --> 0:15:08.896 Yeah, you know, and luckily there's no Internet back then. 0:15:08.856 --> 0:15:11.856 So that's true. But then if there were you could 0:15:11.856 --> 0:15:12.416 have been recruited. 0:15:12.616 --> 0:15:14.536 You've been a four star for sure, like all three 0:15:14.536 --> 0:15:16.456 even at h and just an athlete. 0:15:16.456 --> 0:15:17.496 They wouldn't know what to do with you. 0:15:18.536 --> 0:15:21.296 Yeah, I mean, look, luckily I grew a couple of 0:15:21.336 --> 0:15:24.696 inches around twenty years old. But here's what I always say, 0:15:25.176 --> 0:15:29.336 because baseball was probably my best avenue because of my size. 0:15:29.656 --> 0:15:32.376 But I always say that had I grown a couple 0:15:32.496 --> 0:15:34.376 extra inches in high school, it would have been a 0:15:34.376 --> 0:15:36.856 big curse for me because my problem. You would have 0:15:36.896 --> 0:15:39.215 been stuck in double A ball for about ten years 0:15:39.256 --> 0:15:41.536 and then ended up not having anything to do with 0:15:41.576 --> 0:15:43.936 my life except for say I played double A ball. 0:15:44.296 --> 0:15:47.096 That lifestyle, Yeah, it was the lass thing that I 0:15:47.096 --> 0:15:48.136 didn't grow till later. 0:15:48.696 --> 0:15:50.656 I would say the minor league ball lifestyle and the 0:15:50.736 --> 0:15:54.496 musician lifestyle, though like, are very similar because it's really 0:15:54.536 --> 0:15:56.776 hard to make it to the pros. It's really hard 0:15:56.776 --> 0:15:59.856 to actually have a little extra money just period doing 0:15:59.896 --> 0:16:02.256 something creative like being an artist. I would say both 0:16:02.256 --> 0:16:04.376 of those are professions I would never want my kids 0:16:04.376 --> 0:16:07.536 to do. They just demanded they had to do it. 0:16:08.456 --> 0:16:10.616 Yeah, that's just just something that you just can't talk 0:16:10.616 --> 0:16:14.856 about for sure. I mean, and look, you know, in 0:16:14.896 --> 0:16:17.576 this as you know, in this business, that's a very 0:16:17.576 --> 0:16:19.896 good comparison of playing minor league ball and then hoping 0:16:19.896 --> 0:16:21.896 to make it to the majors one day, because that's 0:16:21.936 --> 0:16:23.856 what we were doing. We were playing clubs back in 0:16:23.896 --> 0:16:25.896 the day, when we were in a van pulling a 0:16:26.336 --> 0:16:28.176 U haul all over the country and playing in all 0:16:28.256 --> 0:16:31.536 these five hundred and six hundred seat clubs, and you know, 0:16:31.696 --> 0:16:34.536 just hoping to have a chance to play a bigger 0:16:34.576 --> 0:16:36.536 club is all we were hoping back then. And then 0:16:36.816 --> 0:16:39.856 certainly it was a pipe dreamer even get a record 0:16:39.856 --> 0:16:42.696 deal and to have something happen after that. So, knock 0:16:42.736 --> 0:16:44.776 on wood, it worked out. I'm glad I picked this 0:16:44.856 --> 0:16:47.896 profession as opposed to to trying my hand at minor 0:16:47.976 --> 0:16:48.656 league baseball. 0:16:48.936 --> 0:16:52.256 Now, in terms of just where your influences came from 0:16:52.336 --> 0:16:54.656 music and when did you start playing music and the 0:16:54.696 --> 0:16:57.416 passion that you have for it, because obviously we're listening 0:16:57.416 --> 0:17:00.576 to everything that you accomplished from a sports standpoint, but 0:17:00.616 --> 0:17:02.696 when did music come to the forefront for you? 0:17:03.776 --> 0:17:06.136 Well, I was always loved music. I mean even as 0:17:06.256 --> 0:17:08.536 a little kid, I knew every song on the radio. 0:17:08.616 --> 0:17:11.016 My mom really loved music and my mom played music 0:17:11.056 --> 0:17:12.936 all the time, and she would sing with every song 0:17:13.016 --> 0:17:14.896 on the radio, and we would sing together as we 0:17:14.896 --> 0:17:17.536