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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 2: We got lots just say we got lost.

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Speaker 3: Just said.

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Speaker 4: What a bat?

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Speaker 2: And we poked you say because we got lost, Just sa,

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Speaker 2: yeah we got lost.

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Speaker 5: Just say, here's Bobby.

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Speaker 2: That said everybody.

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Speaker 1: Tim McGrath coming up in just a little bit, major

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Speaker 1: athlete timcgaw was a major athlete, one of those annoying guys.

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Speaker 2: But you're like this too, You're annoying, brother man.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that that you're tall, you're good looking. You

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Speaker 1: could play every sport. No basketball was never myself, but

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Speaker 1: you played college baseball, you played football, You could have

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Speaker 1: played basketball.

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Speaker 2: You're six or four.

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Speaker 1: It's like God like had had beans that could go

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Speaker 1: in two jars, and he like put too many in

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, dude, I got like a third over here,

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Speaker 2: you know what.

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Speaker 3: I could play a little pick up basketball, but I'm

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Speaker 3: always the guy in the low post because I can't

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Speaker 3: shoot to save my life. And I've always been jealous

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Speaker 1: Just don't talk about being jealous of athletes because I'm

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Speaker 3: This is no I'm basketball athletes. I am jealous of period.

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Speaker 1: It's like you have you had all the traits to

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Speaker 2: In the face.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a few, very few, very few, very few

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Speaker 1: Probably not the best looking dude he's but he's above average.

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Speaker 2: Though he's above average. Yeah, I'm not even saying he's ugly.

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Speaker 1: But when I think of like quarterbacks that aren't like chisel,

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking anything up.

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Speaker 1: You can't be a premier quarterback without being good looking.

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Speaker 1: Lamar is good looking, Josh Allen's good looking, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: Keep going, I'm good. Jimmy Garoppolo the best.

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Speaker 1: But you have to have certain elements you do have

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Speaker 3: No, I was, but yes, I know him pretty well.

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Speaker 3: We've used to work out in the off season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he he's got something to him, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: Oh what part of them? Well, what aspects? What partial structure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's like a Golden age again. It is.

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Speaker 3: It really is, because when you look at you know,

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Speaker 6: And then you look at this crop of quarter heres

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Speaker 1: a second. Lamar Jackson threw for forty one hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: Statistically speaking, Josh Allen thirty seven thirty one passing yards,

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Like there's no question about it. When

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Speaker 1: He's the favorite right now, right even though Lamar has

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Speaker 2: Who's your vote.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with Josh Allen. I just I just

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I also picked Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: Should never be. He won, so he wouldn't win, he

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Speaker 1: I think that's the most loser mentality, right, Like if

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Speaker 1: Let's let's give people the awards they deserve, even if

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Speaker 1: But I do think Josh, for the reason that you stated,

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Speaker 6: Right, some of those games. I mean, all these guys

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Speaker 2: I mean, through for almost five thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: In four I think they won four and then it

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Speaker 6: I've heard nothing amazing things about him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't know him in his wild timocraw

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Speaker 2: Like, that's the kind of dude he is.

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Speaker 3: You can tell he's a meticulous dude when it comes

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Speaker 2: And making sure his boy look good too. He went,

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Speaker 2: thank god, he got that hair thumb and forefinger right

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Speaker 1: Didn't ask, didn't need to Tim McGraw's permission to go

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Speaker 1: He wants wide open so much he went in I

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Speaker 2: Then we're on.

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Speaker 1: And that is my relationship with Tim McGrath and crazy athlete.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that here. He is now country

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Speaker 2: Will you tell Matt, let's start with your basketball career.

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Speaker 1: Would you mind throwing some stats at Matt about your

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Speaker 5: Well, I know one particular stat you're talking about. I

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Speaker 6: Was that's great.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever think it wouldn't have It wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: We never practiced it though, right, it's not you say that,

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Speaker 1: but I imagine if there would have been a three

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Speaker 5: Would have, but I don't know that it would have

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Speaker 3: So you scored fifty four points with no three pointers

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Speaker 3: That's that's incredible.

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Speaker 5: Actually, you know, I might have stuck a twenty five

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Speaker 5: we're slashing and driving. Yeah, you know, it's just one

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Speaker 5: of those games, you know what I'm talking about, Matt

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Speaker 5: when you just and you played ball too, Bobby, It's just,

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Speaker 5: you know, one of those games where you sort of

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Speaker 2: Being from Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Was there this Pete Maravich dream and you wanted to

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean I grew up loving Pete Pistol Pete,

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Speaker 6: Now, did you get recruited for anybody for basketball?

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Speaker 5: I did? I had. I had five or six good offers.

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Speaker 5: I had offers in all three sports, five or sist

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Speaker 1: Okay, give us your other high school career highlights. You

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Speaker 2: There's really only three we had. It wasn't like we

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was the first one to break through in volleyball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, give us your give us a basketball,

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Speaker 5: Let's see football highlight. Well, my second game in high school,

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Speaker 5: I got concussed. On the first play. I was wide

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Speaker 5: But I got two interceptions and had three touchdown receptions,

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Speaker 6: Had fifty four points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets a concussion and he just balls out

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Speaker 2: Two interceptions. Unreal baseball.

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Speaker 5: H my last time at bat in high school baseball,

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Speaker 5: hit a home run, very last time. That's sort of

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, is there anything better than the close out

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Speaker 5: Now, you're now going to get calls from all my

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Speaker 5: that was twenty four points when he was twenty two.

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Speaker 5: Now that he's now the fifty seven, it's fifty four points.

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Speaker 5: So you know it, girls exponentially.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: You get get a little bit more every every single

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and luckily there's no Internet back then.

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Speaker 2: So that's true. But then if there were you could

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Speaker 1: You've been a four star for sure, like all three

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, luckily I grew a couple of

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Speaker 5: That lifestyle, Yeah, it was the lass thing that I

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Speaker 1: I would say the minor league ball lifestyle and the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just just something that you just can't talk

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Speaker 5: certainly it was a pipe dreamer even get a record

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Speaker 5: Well, I was always loved music. I mean even as

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Speaker 5: I always loved music, and you know, I was in

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Speaker 5: freshman summer of college, I went to a pawn shop

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Speaker 2: Did you get the ring back? We got to know that.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever go back and read buy the ring?

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Speaker 5: My grandfather went back and got the ring for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: for it, a ukulele, a guitar that was about twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just can't believe that he

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a disconnect between my brain

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Speaker 5: Well you haven't. You obviously haven't heard me playing guitar

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Speaker 4: What was what was it about you or what was

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Speaker 4: made somebody pay attention to you going we can actually

441
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Speaker 4: make some money with him.

442
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Speaker 1: It could have been like you're touring your a fan base,

443
00:18:55,296 --> 00:18:58,495
Speaker 1: a song you wrote, you singing, like, what was the

444
00:18:58,495 --> 00:19:00,656
Speaker 1: first thing that you did that actually made someone go,

445
00:19:00,896 --> 00:19:02,736
Speaker 1: we think we want to put some money behind this guy.

446
00:19:04,016 --> 00:19:07,576
Speaker 5: I think it was probably us playing live because we

447
00:19:07,656 --> 00:19:09,775
Speaker 5: played down at Printer's Alley all the time. When I

448
00:19:09,816 --> 00:19:12,816
Speaker 5: first moved to Nashville a place called Skull's Rainbow Room,

449
00:19:12,816 --> 00:19:14,336
Speaker 5: and it's still there, but it's a whole different vibe

450
00:19:14,376 --> 00:19:16,416
Speaker 5: than it used to be. So I was part of

451
00:19:16,735 --> 00:19:18,776
Speaker 5: the house band there with a guy named Jimmy Snyder,

452
00:19:19,416 --> 00:19:22,535
Speaker 5: and so I was played in there every night, and

453
00:19:22,896 --> 00:19:24,576
Speaker 5: a couple of guys came in to see me. And

454
00:19:24,936 --> 00:19:27,176
Speaker 5: I think it was more just the way we performed live,

455
00:19:27,735 --> 00:19:30,856
Speaker 5: not so much as great singing or great songs or

456
00:19:30,896 --> 00:19:32,975
Speaker 5: anything like that. I think it was just our energy

457
00:19:33,016 --> 00:19:37,576
Speaker 5: that we had live. And I had scraped up enough

458
00:19:37,576 --> 00:19:39,456
Speaker 5: money and I had enough musician friends that I did

459
00:19:39,455 --> 00:19:42,215
Speaker 5: this showcase at a place called Diamond in the Rough

460
00:19:42,256 --> 00:19:44,936
Speaker 5: that used to be down on Broadway years ago, and

461
00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:47,136
Speaker 5: I think I had like a ten piece band. All

462
00:19:47,176 --> 00:19:50,336
Speaker 5: of my friends were playing, and I invited everybody in town.

463
00:19:50,776 --> 00:19:55,056
Speaker 5: And Byron Gallimore called me back to come visit with him,

464
00:19:55,056 --> 00:19:57,296
Speaker 5: and he became my producer and still is my producer.

465
00:19:57,336 --> 00:20:00,136
Speaker 5: And he took me to Curb Records, he and James Stroud,

466
00:20:00,136 --> 00:20:01,215
Speaker 5: and that's how I got my record.

467
00:20:02,056 --> 00:20:05,335
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable because I've actually been to one of your concerts.

468
00:20:05,416 --> 00:20:07,735
Speaker 3: I was in Kansas City and I remember I was

469
00:20:07,776 --> 00:20:10,176
Speaker 3: down in the facility one day and it's before the

470
00:20:10,256 --> 00:20:12,496
Speaker 3: day of the concert, and I walked down I think

471
00:20:12,536 --> 00:20:15,096
Speaker 3: it might have been a Saturday or something like that,

472
00:20:15,416 --> 00:20:18,736
Speaker 3: and you're in the weight room getting after it, I mean,

473
00:20:18,776 --> 00:20:20,856
Speaker 3: and so I walk in. I just see this guy

474
00:20:20,896 --> 00:20:23,176
Speaker 3: and he's ripped up. He's got his cutoff shirt. I

475
00:20:23,215 --> 00:20:25,775
Speaker 3: think you were wearing a bandana on your head. And

476
00:20:25,816 --> 00:20:29,336
Speaker 3: I asked, I asked my strength conditioning coach. I said, hey, coach,

477
00:20:29,376 --> 00:20:31,456
Speaker 3: who is that. He's like, dude, that's Tim McGraw. He's

478
00:20:31,455 --> 00:20:33,376
Speaker 3: getting after it. I was like, I can see that.

479
00:20:33,816 --> 00:20:36,255
Speaker 3: I mean, is that something that you do on tour?

480
00:20:36,416 --> 00:20:39,056
Speaker 3: Is that something that just because I know obviously you're

481
00:20:39,096 --> 00:20:41,015
Speaker 3: always in shape every time I've ever seen you, But

482
00:20:41,455 --> 00:20:43,896
Speaker 3: is it something you go around and anytime you can

483
00:20:43,896 --> 00:20:44,896
Speaker 3: get a workout in you do.

484
00:20:45,975 --> 00:20:48,496
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's part of the routine every day, and most

485
00:20:48,495 --> 00:20:50,535
Speaker 5: of the band guts too. It's just part of our

486
00:20:50,576 --> 00:20:53,696
Speaker 5: everyday routine and it's been that way for gosh fifteen

487
00:20:53,776 --> 00:20:55,936
Speaker 5: years now. We don't feel the same if we don't

488
00:20:55,975 --> 00:20:57,575
Speaker 5: get a workout in during the day, and we have

489
00:20:57,616 --> 00:21:00,096
Speaker 5: a gym that travels with us and it looks like

490
00:21:00,136 --> 00:21:05,575
Speaker 5: a prison yard, have ropes and chains and tire and

491
00:21:05,576 --> 00:21:08,455
Speaker 5: everything outside the bus. And so we get in two

492
00:21:08,536 --> 00:21:10,176
Speaker 5: or three workouts a day when we're on the road.

493
00:21:10,576 --> 00:21:12,056
Speaker 6: All right, let's get it. Let's get this.

494
00:21:12,376 --> 00:21:15,096
Speaker 5: It keeps us out of trouble. Put it for a

495
00:21:15,096 --> 00:21:15,735
Speaker 5: lot of reasons.

496
00:21:15,776 --> 00:21:17,936
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels time, all right, and you're on the road,

497
00:21:17,975 --> 00:21:20,376
Speaker 1: there's a lot of freaking time. Okay, we're gonna get

498
00:21:20,376 --> 00:21:23,496
Speaker 1: personal here and see how you feel about this last season.

499
00:21:23,616 --> 00:21:25,616
Speaker 1: LSU Brian Kelly. I know a lot of people have

500
00:21:25,656 --> 00:21:26,896
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to say, Tim, What do you

501
00:21:26,896 --> 00:21:27,376
Speaker 1: got to say?

502
00:21:28,536 --> 00:21:31,336
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, Look, that's just such a tough

503
00:21:31,376 --> 00:21:35,536
Speaker 5: gig anymore to coach college players, I think with all

504
00:21:35,576 --> 00:21:37,696
Speaker 5: the new money coming in and these guys don't on

505
00:21:37,735 --> 00:21:39,816
Speaker 5: a list, don't. I don't want to put anybody down.

506
00:21:39,856 --> 00:21:42,296
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to say that college players don't listen

507
00:21:42,296 --> 00:21:43,976
Speaker 5: because I don't know them that well. But I can

508
00:21:44,056 --> 00:21:46,616
Speaker 5: imagine trying to be a college coach where you used

509
00:21:46,616 --> 00:21:49,016
Speaker 5: to have a complete control and everybody doing exactly what

510
00:21:49,056 --> 00:21:50,776
Speaker 5: you say and when you say to do it how

511
00:21:50,816 --> 00:21:52,696
Speaker 5: you say to do it, and then you got these

512
00:21:52,696 --> 00:21:56,056
Speaker 5: guys now that are not that I'm against them being

513
00:21:56,056 --> 00:21:58,336
Speaker 5: able to eat and make It's not that I'm in

514
00:21:58,416 --> 00:22:00,616
Speaker 5: four or against any of that stuff. It just seems

515
00:22:00,656 --> 00:22:03,976
Speaker 5: like it makes the job of coaching tougher in that environment,

516
00:22:04,136 --> 00:22:06,816
Speaker 5: because it's tough enough NFL when you're dealing with grown

517
00:22:06,856 --> 00:22:10,416
Speaker 5: men with careers and making business decisions every day about

518
00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:11,896
Speaker 5: their career and how long they're going to be around

519
00:22:11,896 --> 00:22:13,296
Speaker 5: and the things they're going to do, and what's good

520
00:22:13,336 --> 00:22:14,896
Speaker 5: for them, what's good for the body, what's good for

521
00:22:14,936 --> 00:22:17,696
Speaker 5: the team, that calculust and that alchemy that all comes

522
00:22:17,696 --> 00:22:20,735
Speaker 5: into effect. I just think that it makes it really

523
00:22:20,776 --> 00:22:25,015
Speaker 5: tough to coach college college football these days, and it

524
00:22:25,096 --> 00:22:27,335
Speaker 5: takes a really strong personality to go in there and

525
00:22:27,376 --> 00:22:30,816
Speaker 5: do that. Brian Kelly's a great coach now, who knows

526
00:22:31,176 --> 00:22:33,096
Speaker 5: if his style is going to work with a team

527
00:22:33,176 --> 00:22:34,096
Speaker 5: like LSU or not.

528
00:22:34,495 --> 00:22:35,096
Speaker 2: It is wild.

529
00:22:35,096 --> 00:22:36,575
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be a coach right now in

530
00:22:36,616 --> 00:22:39,656
Speaker 3: college football with the NIL the transfer portal, you're you

531
00:22:39,696 --> 00:22:41,735
Speaker 3: have to recruit people you go into and I I

532
00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:43,975
Speaker 3: mean in the transfer portal to recruit more guys that

533
00:22:44,056 --> 00:22:45,735
Speaker 3: come in. But in addition to that, you got to

534
00:22:45,735 --> 00:22:48,575
Speaker 3: recruit your own players. Every single year, these guys come

535
00:22:48,616 --> 00:22:50,735
Speaker 3: in and say, hey, coach, look, if you want me

536
00:22:50,776 --> 00:22:52,736
Speaker 3: for the ball game, I'm gonna I'm gonna need another.

537
00:22:52,495 --> 00:22:55,056
Speaker 6: Two hundred grand. You know, like that's that's the nature

538
00:22:55,096 --> 00:22:56,856
Speaker 6: of the beast now, right.

539
00:22:56,975 --> 00:22:58,576
Speaker 5: And then how do you do that as a coach,

540
00:22:58,616 --> 00:23:00,216
Speaker 5: And how do you how do you do that as

541
00:23:00,215 --> 00:23:01,936
Speaker 5: a coach, and how do you do as as an

542
00:23:02,016 --> 00:23:05,056
Speaker 5: organization and a coaching organization and still be able to

543
00:23:05,136 --> 00:23:07,975
Speaker 5: let lay your game plan down, put these guys in

544
00:23:07,975 --> 00:23:10,016
Speaker 5: a position to win, put these guys in the right

545
00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:12,376
Speaker 5: mindset to win, make these guys play as a team.

546
00:23:12,576 --> 00:23:17,215
Speaker 5: It's just tough all the way around. And look, it's

547
00:23:17,455 --> 00:23:19,376
Speaker 5: people are going to evolve with it. Coaches are going

548
00:23:19,416 --> 00:23:21,376
Speaker 5: to evolve with it. The coaches are going to learn

549
00:23:21,416 --> 00:23:23,056
Speaker 5: how to do it in a different way. I'm sure.

550
00:23:23,096 --> 00:23:25,536
Speaker 5: But there is a curve that's going on right now.

551
00:23:25,656 --> 00:23:27,856
Speaker 1: I don't want to reveal the great Mighty eyes. So

552
00:23:27,896 --> 00:23:29,856
Speaker 1: if this is the secret that you don't feel like sharing,

553
00:23:30,096 --> 00:23:32,535
Speaker 1: I'll start. If I'm doing a stand up show to

554
00:23:32,536 --> 00:23:36,056
Speaker 1: theater or even in my television contracts, if Arkansas is

555
00:23:36,056 --> 00:23:38,015
Speaker 1: playing football and I am working, or if it's a

556
00:23:38,096 --> 00:23:40,376
Speaker 1: night game, I'll have a small screen on a monitor

557
00:23:40,656 --> 00:23:43,696
Speaker 1: I will have because I can't watch a game recorded

558
00:23:43,856 --> 00:23:46,896
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. A recorded game I cannot go to afterward

559
00:23:46,896 --> 00:23:49,815
Speaker 1: because I can't it's on my phone everywhere. So I

560
00:23:49,856 --> 00:23:52,896
Speaker 1: will have a monitor at all times so I can

561
00:23:52,975 --> 00:23:55,616
Speaker 1: watch the game. If there is a big LSU game,

562
00:23:55,656 --> 00:23:58,136
Speaker 1: tim and you are on stage, how are you getting

563
00:23:58,136 --> 00:23:59,176
Speaker 1: information fed to you.

564
00:24:00,215 --> 00:24:04,416
Speaker 5: Through my ears? Through my inner monitors? My guy helped

565
00:24:04,495 --> 00:24:06,615
Speaker 5: heath on the side, always telling me to score, and

566
00:24:06,656 --> 00:24:08,495
Speaker 5: he also used to do that when my kids were

567
00:24:08,536 --> 00:24:11,376
Speaker 5: in high school and one of my daughters was a cheerleader,

568
00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:13,295
Speaker 5: so we went to all the high school games and

569
00:24:13,296 --> 00:24:15,696
Speaker 5: we were really invested in Amsworth High School football, so

570
00:24:15,735 --> 00:24:17,896
Speaker 5: we tailgated and all stuff. So when I was when

571
00:24:17,936 --> 00:24:19,336
Speaker 5: I happened to be on stage and there was a

572
00:24:19,376 --> 00:24:21,495
Speaker 5: game going on, I was getting fed scores right in

573
00:24:21,536 --> 00:24:23,376
Speaker 5: the middle of songs. So if I dropped the word

574
00:24:25,816 --> 00:24:28,376
Speaker 5: because I'm happy about the score.

575
00:24:28,975 --> 00:24:30,616
Speaker 2: Do you have an NFL team as well?

576
00:24:30,656 --> 00:24:33,296
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously your ties to Nashville, maybe the Titans,

577
00:24:33,336 --> 00:24:33,896
Speaker 3: but I don't know.

578
00:24:34,056 --> 00:24:35,416
Speaker 2: I mean, who's who's your nff T.

579
00:24:35,896 --> 00:24:37,776
Speaker 5: I root for the Titans, of course, because of being

580
00:24:37,776 --> 00:24:41,296
Speaker 5: in Nashville and I and I root for the Eagles

581
00:24:41,296 --> 00:24:43,376
Speaker 5: because I have two brothers that live in Philly and

582
00:24:43,416 --> 00:24:45,416
Speaker 5: my of course, my dad played ball in Philly and

583
00:24:45,776 --> 00:24:47,616
Speaker 5: spent a lot of time there, and I grew up

584
00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:49,536
Speaker 5: in Louisiana, so I'm still a Saints fan at heart

585
00:24:49,576 --> 00:24:49,975
Speaker 5: as well.

586
00:24:50,215 --> 00:24:52,936
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw them out into the bush just

587
00:24:52,975 --> 00:24:54,495
Speaker 1: a little bit, But I don't know if he's going

588
00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:55,696
Speaker 1: to say anything about it since you're here.

589
00:24:55,696 --> 00:24:57,016
Speaker 2: But he was before you came on.

590
00:24:57,376 --> 00:24:59,616
Speaker 1: I was actually telling him, like, Tim's like a normal dude,

591
00:24:59,656 --> 00:25:01,775
Speaker 1: like love hanging around Tim Love, hang around his wife,

592
00:25:01,776 --> 00:25:03,416
Speaker 1: Like they're like as normal people as he can be.

593
00:25:03,656 --> 00:25:06,376
Speaker 1: And he was like, he's such a good app oh yeah,

594
00:25:06,495 --> 00:25:08,136
Speaker 1: and he brings it upbout it, So I'm gonna let

595
00:25:08,176 --> 00:25:08,735
Speaker 1: him take it from here.

596
00:25:08,776 --> 00:25:09,975
Speaker 2: But he was saying that, and I just wanted to

597
00:25:09,975 --> 00:25:12,176
Speaker 2: say it to your face. I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

598
00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:14,015
Speaker 2: I love your music.

599
00:25:14,096 --> 00:25:16,735
Speaker 3: But then when I watched eighteen eighty three and I

600
00:25:16,776 --> 00:25:18,416
Speaker 3: saw you out on that screen, and you've done a

601
00:25:18,495 --> 00:25:20,576
Speaker 3: number of different things I've been impressed with, but you're

602
00:25:20,616 --> 00:25:23,336
Speaker 3: as good of actor as you are a performer and singer.

603
00:25:23,376 --> 00:25:26,936
Speaker 3: I mean, it's incredible, But did you Is it something

604
00:25:27,016 --> 00:25:29,136
Speaker 3: that just came naturally for you? Because I think that

605
00:25:29,136 --> 00:25:31,416
Speaker 3: that would be difficult. But that role, it was such

606
00:25:31,455 --> 00:25:34,535
Speaker 3: an intense role. You had such a pivotal role in

607
00:25:34,735 --> 00:25:36,856
Speaker 3: just the overall show. It was incredible.

608
00:25:37,656 --> 00:25:39,896
Speaker 5: Oh thank you man. It was a lot of fun

609
00:25:39,936 --> 00:25:41,736
Speaker 5: to do that. You know, I grew up riding horses

610
00:25:41,936 --> 00:25:44,295
Speaker 5: and being in that world, so for me, it was

611
00:25:44,336 --> 00:25:46,616
Speaker 5: playground all day every day. Just being able to go

612
00:25:46,696 --> 00:25:49,136
Speaker 5: out and do the stunts and ride wide open and

613
00:25:49,176 --> 00:25:50,816
Speaker 5: wrote things. It was. It was a lot of fun.

614
00:25:50,856 --> 00:25:53,496
Speaker 5: And in faith learned how to drive those wagons really

615
00:25:53,696 --> 00:25:56,136
Speaker 5: really good. I mean she's actually driving the wagons through

616
00:25:56,176 --> 00:25:58,896
Speaker 5: the rivers and those were old, original wagons. There was

617
00:25:58,936 --> 00:26:00,896
Speaker 5: nothing modern about them. So she really did a good

618
00:26:00,936 --> 00:26:04,656
Speaker 5: job learning that. As far as the actings, you know,

619
00:26:05,936 --> 00:26:08,616
Speaker 5: it's one of those things that if you're in the

620
00:26:08,776 --> 00:26:12,096
Speaker 5: entertainment business in general and being a musician and you

621
00:26:12,176 --> 00:26:14,776
Speaker 5: have some success, those things start coming to you. You start

622
00:26:14,776 --> 00:26:17,495
Speaker 5: getting chances to do that. And early in my career

623
00:26:17,536 --> 00:26:20,096
Speaker 5: when I had some success, I was getting some opportunities

624
00:26:20,096 --> 00:26:22,215
Speaker 5: to do some acting, but I wasn't ready for it

625
00:26:22,215 --> 00:26:25,616
Speaker 5: to do. What I didn't want to do is, you know,

626
00:26:25,696 --> 00:26:28,376
Speaker 5: have my career going really well and then go try

627
00:26:28,376 --> 00:26:30,376
Speaker 5: something new and really suck at it and then ruin

628
00:26:30,455 --> 00:26:33,376
Speaker 5: my other career because that's the last I mean, because

629
00:26:33,455 --> 00:26:35,735
Speaker 5: then it takes away everything cool that you have going

630
00:26:35,776 --> 00:26:38,416
Speaker 5: on if you go and be really uncool and suck

631
00:26:38,455 --> 00:26:41,255
Speaker 5: at something else. And so I wasn't going to do

632
00:26:41,296 --> 00:26:43,496
Speaker 5: it for a long time. And then somebody skipped sent

633
00:26:43,536 --> 00:26:45,656
Speaker 5: me the script for Friday Night Lights and I read

634
00:26:45,656 --> 00:26:49,015
Speaker 5: the script and instantly it registered to me. With all

635
00:26:49,056 --> 00:26:50,656
Speaker 5: the athletics that I grew up with and all the

636
00:26:50,696 --> 00:26:53,295
Speaker 5: sports I grew up doing, and all the dads that

637
00:26:53,376 --> 00:26:56,616
Speaker 5: I saw around, I knew that guy. I seen that guy,

638
00:26:57,056 --> 00:27:01,256
Speaker 5: or or a conglomeration of that guy at every ball

639
00:27:01,336 --> 00:27:04,056
Speaker 5: game I was ever at, and it just struck me instantly.

640
00:27:04,136 --> 00:27:06,296
Speaker 5: So I know that guy. I can play that guy.

641
00:27:06,336 --> 00:27:08,095
Speaker 5: And I went an audition and got the role for it.

642
00:27:08,336 --> 00:27:10,296
Speaker 5: Well I'm glad I did, because that turned out to

643
00:27:10,296 --> 00:27:12,015
Speaker 5: be an incredible experience in a great movie.

644
00:27:12,136 --> 00:27:15,696
Speaker 1: How'd you go about watching yourself back? And then what

645
00:27:15,816 --> 00:27:18,015
Speaker 1: about like you watch it as like game tape? And

646
00:27:18,336 --> 00:27:19,816
Speaker 1: I could do this better, I could do that better.

647
00:27:21,296 --> 00:27:24,496
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I don't like to watch myself back at

648
00:27:24,495 --> 00:27:28,056
Speaker 5: all on special movies because all I see is me

649
00:27:28,215 --> 00:27:30,656
Speaker 5: trying to play somebody else. But that's because I know

650
00:27:30,735 --> 00:27:32,536
Speaker 5: me so well and I know what I'm doing stuff

651
00:27:32,536 --> 00:27:34,536
Speaker 5: that nobody else will notice. But I noticed that I'm

652
00:27:34,536 --> 00:27:36,896
Speaker 5: doing it, so I try to I don't watch it, like,

653
00:27:36,936 --> 00:27:42,576
Speaker 5: for instance, a movie called Four Christmases I've never seen, never,

654
00:27:42,735 --> 00:27:45,616
Speaker 5: never see it for a couple of reasons. For the

655
00:27:45,616 --> 00:27:47,736
Speaker 5: main reason, I think I was two hundred and fifteen

656
00:27:47,816 --> 00:27:51,616
Speaker 5: pounds when we shot that movie, and my kids were little,

657
00:27:51,656 --> 00:27:54,136
Speaker 5: and we went to the theater to watch some Christmas movies

658
00:27:54,455 --> 00:27:56,976
Speaker 5: and me not thinking at all anything about the four

659
00:27:57,016 --> 00:28:00,015
Speaker 5: Christmas movie that I'd shot, And sure enough, the first

660
00:28:00,256 --> 00:28:02,856
Speaker 5: trailer that popped up on the screen was the four

661
00:28:02,936 --> 00:28:06,575
Speaker 5: Christmas Movie. In my face, my face looked like a

662
00:28:06,656 --> 00:28:11,696
Speaker 5: Macy's Thanksgiving Day balloon, and my daughter looked at me, says, geez, Dad,

663
00:28:11,735 --> 00:28:14,535
Speaker 5: you gotta do something. And from that point, that's when

664
00:28:14,576 --> 00:28:16,336
Speaker 5: I started getting in shape. You were talking about getting

665
00:28:16,336 --> 00:28:19,456
Speaker 5: out of shape and getting a gym and hustling every

666
00:28:19,536 --> 00:28:21,976
Speaker 5: day before a show. That's when it started as well.

667
00:28:22,176 --> 00:28:24,176
Speaker 5: My daughter saw my face on the screen for four

668
00:28:24,256 --> 00:28:25,455
Speaker 5: Christmases and said that to me.

669
00:28:25,536 --> 00:28:27,656
Speaker 3: You should have just said, hey, look the camera adds

670
00:28:27,656 --> 00:28:31,855
Speaker 3: fifteen pounds. I'm good. I don't have to kill myself

671
00:28:31,896 --> 00:28:34,656
Speaker 3: every day. I'm just it adds a little weight. Okay,

672
00:28:35,016 --> 00:28:35,976
Speaker 3: back off.

673
00:28:36,016 --> 00:28:38,736
Speaker 5: If my kids weren't so smart, I would have said that, Well.

674
00:28:38,616 --> 00:28:40,296
Speaker 1: We love you, buddy, thank you for coming on and

675
00:28:40,336 --> 00:28:42,936
Speaker 1: being on with us. And can't say enough great things

676
00:28:42,936 --> 00:28:44,616
Speaker 1: about you behind your back, so all this stuff in

677
00:28:44,616 --> 00:28:46,976
Speaker 1: front of your back, you know it's real too. So Tim,

678
00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:49,016
Speaker 1: good to see you, and hopefully I'll see you around soon.

679
00:28:49,056 --> 00:28:50,936
Speaker 2: And I'm glad you and Matt and me because Matt's.

680
00:28:50,696 --> 00:28:52,656
Speaker 6: A big fan too. Yeah, Tim, thank you so much.

681
00:28:53,096 --> 00:28:55,416
Speaker 5: All right, see pleasure to me you Bobby will see

682
00:28:55,416 --> 00:28:55,936
Speaker 5: it done a row bro.

683
00:28:55,896 --> 00:28:57,575
Speaker 2: Ahl right, buddy, see you later, but I'll take care.

684
00:29:13,376 --> 00:29:15,456
Speaker 1: I think what's weird about the iPhone is that I

685
00:29:15,856 --> 00:29:17,136
Speaker 1: texted you and you text me back.

686
00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:17,456
Speaker 2: Now.

687
00:29:17,536 --> 00:29:19,376
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have the update, but like

688
00:29:19,456 --> 00:29:21,496
Speaker 1: all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff like,

689
00:29:21,536 --> 00:29:22,296
Speaker 1: it's all colored.

690
00:29:22,376 --> 00:29:24,815
Speaker 2: They changed it and the heart's a little pink, so

691
00:29:24,816 --> 00:29:26,096
Speaker 2: you would send me very pink.

692
00:29:26,136 --> 00:29:29,056
Speaker 1: You'd send me a message and I heard it because

693
00:29:29,256 --> 00:29:31,336
Speaker 1: there's certain things you thumbs up and you like, and

694
00:29:31,376 --> 00:29:33,856
Speaker 1: there's some things like, oh like I appreciate that, which

695
00:29:33,896 --> 00:29:35,296
Speaker 1: is more than the thumbs up, and I gave you that.

696
00:29:35,336 --> 00:29:37,776
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But the heart was a little pink

697
00:29:37,816 --> 00:29:39,736
Speaker 1: to feel. It felt like I told you I loved you.

698
00:29:39,816 --> 00:29:41,296
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

699
00:29:41,496 --> 00:29:44,096
Speaker 3: There was something sentimental when you feel like when you

700
00:29:44,136 --> 00:29:45,136
Speaker 3: send it, you was.

701
00:29:45,176 --> 00:29:47,576
Speaker 6: Like, do I send the heart now?

702
00:29:47,776 --> 00:29:48,936
Speaker 2: I don't like the color edition.

703
00:29:48,936 --> 00:29:53,536
Speaker 3: It's extremely pink, and you're just like, I STI don't

704
00:29:53,536 --> 00:29:54,176
Speaker 3: know if that's going to go on.

705
00:29:54,256 --> 00:29:55,575
Speaker 6: I just continue the thumbs up.

706
00:29:55,736 --> 00:29:57,456
Speaker 1: Well, and our relationship is still new, like we just

707
00:29:57,496 --> 00:29:58,976
Speaker 1: like we just started dating. You know, you don't you

708
00:29:58,976 --> 00:30:01,136
Speaker 1: don't just throw the O word around with that. And

709
00:30:01,216 --> 00:30:02,976
Speaker 1: so I just want you to know my pink heart

710
00:30:03,016 --> 00:30:04,256
Speaker 1: was just like, hey, I appreciate that.

711
00:30:04,376 --> 00:30:06,496
Speaker 6: I'm gonna pink heart you say I love you so much?

712
00:30:06,736 --> 00:30:06,855
Speaker 5: Hey?

713
00:30:06,896 --> 00:30:07,936
Speaker 2: You know what's cool about the phone now?

714
00:30:07,976 --> 00:30:11,696
Speaker 1: And the update is that you can send texts timed

715
00:30:11,936 --> 00:30:14,216
Speaker 1: meaning oh really, Well, so my problem is I wake

716
00:30:14,256 --> 00:30:15,776
Speaker 1: up at three thirty four in the morning every day,

717
00:30:15,856 --> 00:30:17,296
Speaker 1: right and so, and that's.

718
00:30:17,136 --> 00:30:18,536
Speaker 2: Brutal and I hate it.

719
00:30:19,056 --> 00:30:21,136
Speaker 1: But if people text me at like ten thirty at night,

720
00:30:21,216 --> 00:30:23,376
Speaker 1: I'm not awake. True, So when I wake up and

721
00:30:23,416 --> 00:30:26,976
Speaker 1: I see it, I can't text them back at three

722
00:30:27,136 --> 00:30:28,856
Speaker 1: thirty because they're asleep and I don't want to risk

723
00:30:28,896 --> 00:30:31,496
Speaker 1: waking them up. Even you should even I hear you,

724
00:30:31,576 --> 00:30:33,496
Speaker 1: and everybody should have do not disturb on. Yeah, but

725
00:30:33,536 --> 00:30:35,536
Speaker 1: I can't control everybody. If I could, this world will

726
00:30:35,576 --> 00:30:39,176
Speaker 1: be awesome. However, you can now write a text and

727
00:30:39,216 --> 00:30:42,456
Speaker 1: do the and say send at nine am. Really, yes,

728
00:30:42,936 --> 00:30:45,136
Speaker 1: that is revolutionary. I'll take the pink heart for to

729
00:30:45,136 --> 00:30:46,056
Speaker 1: send the text at the time.

730
00:30:46,336 --> 00:30:49,496
Speaker 3: It's it's fascinating, like the technology nowadays and all the

731
00:30:49,496 --> 00:30:52,256
Speaker 3: different little elements that they come up with. And I

732
00:30:52,296 --> 00:30:54,615
Speaker 3: need to go through like the programming and figure out

733
00:30:54,696 --> 00:30:57,776
Speaker 3: how to do all that stuff because I'm not technologically savvy.

734
00:30:57,896 --> 00:30:59,616
Speaker 1: I also see my stuff on TikTok and then I

735
00:30:59,696 --> 00:31:01,016
Speaker 1: learn it. Are you even on TikTok?

736
00:31:01,696 --> 00:31:04,216
Speaker 6: No, I'm not. I gotta get you there, get me there.

737
00:31:04,256 --> 00:31:05,016
Speaker 6: I'll do some dances.

738
00:31:05,096 --> 00:31:08,776
Speaker 1: No, it's that's what everybody love is not dance see

739
00:31:08,816 --> 00:31:11,815
Speaker 1: TikTok has for me. It's not my TikTok world is

740
00:31:12,016 --> 00:31:15,416
Speaker 1: mostly nineties wrestling. Oh it's so good, and that's that's

741
00:31:15,456 --> 00:31:19,896
Speaker 1: what it feeds me. Obviously, sports, a little bit of music,

742
00:31:20,496 --> 00:31:22,216
Speaker 1: and then every once in a while like a funny

743
00:31:22,216 --> 00:31:24,136
Speaker 1: hawk to which she's like saying that funny.

744
00:31:24,696 --> 00:31:27,095
Speaker 2: But mostly it's like like nineties wrestling.

745
00:31:27,136 --> 00:31:32,976
Speaker 3: But okay, I've got now I'm raising daughters in that world,

746
00:31:33,056 --> 00:31:37,056
Speaker 3: and every time I turn around with their friends and stuff,

747
00:31:37,096 --> 00:31:39,056
Speaker 3: and they're they're trying to do a dance and I'm like,

748
00:31:39,216 --> 00:31:40,976
Speaker 3: what are you guys doing? And they're like, so and

749
00:31:41,016 --> 00:31:43,216
Speaker 3: so has TikTok because I won't let my kids have TikTok,

750
00:31:43,496 --> 00:31:46,256
Speaker 3: but they're doing a TikTok dance, so I always associate

751
00:31:46,296 --> 00:31:47,176
Speaker 3: it with that.

752
00:31:47,216 --> 00:31:48,696
Speaker 6: In the adolescence of it all.

753
00:31:49,216 --> 00:31:52,616
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm all against adolescence in general. So that's

754
00:31:52,656 --> 00:31:54,256
Speaker 1: not why I'm there. I want everybody to know what

755
00:31:54,456 --> 00:31:57,936
Speaker 1: you no. I'm taking for me don't need to be there.

756
00:31:58,616 --> 00:32:02,616
Speaker 1: Final question before I wrap this segment. Did you hate

757
00:32:02,696 --> 00:32:03,616
Speaker 1: quarterback sneaks?

758
00:32:05,016 --> 00:32:06,176
Speaker 6: I feel you know what.

759
00:32:06,336 --> 00:32:10,256
Speaker 3: I hated quarterback sneaks when it was third and one,

760
00:32:10,496 --> 00:32:13,016
Speaker 3: fourth and one and everybody knows you're going to quarterback

761
00:32:13,056 --> 00:32:14,976
Speaker 3: sneak because you have to change your feet, right, you

762
00:32:15,056 --> 00:32:18,056
Speaker 3: change your feet, you kind of brace yourself for contact

763
00:32:18,256 --> 00:32:21,416
Speaker 3: and you push and the linebackers always came and just

764
00:32:21,496 --> 00:32:23,176
Speaker 3: tried to decapitate you.

765
00:32:23,176 --> 00:32:24,536
Speaker 1: Now, And that would be the question, like did you

766
00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:26,056
Speaker 1: hate them when they knew it was coming, Like.

767
00:32:26,056 --> 00:32:26,816
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

768
00:32:26,896 --> 00:32:27,336
Speaker 2: Yeah.

769
00:32:27,456 --> 00:32:29,496
Speaker 3: You would sometimes have these third and two plays or

770
00:32:29,496 --> 00:32:32,056
Speaker 3: something like that, and you'd come up or even second

771
00:32:32,216 --> 00:32:34,336
Speaker 3: second and one where you're getting down there and we

772
00:32:34,416 --> 00:32:36,896
Speaker 3: always had the ability where we call dog dog and

773
00:32:36,936 --> 00:32:38,896
Speaker 3: it would be on this next sound right, and they

774
00:32:38,976 --> 00:32:41,776
Speaker 3: would say, you've got two open a gaps. I'm gonna

775
00:32:41,776 --> 00:32:43,496
Speaker 3: take you. I can get one or two yards, get

776
00:32:43,536 --> 00:32:45,936
Speaker 3: the first down, stin drive whatever. But when you get

777
00:32:45,976 --> 00:32:48,335
Speaker 3: down there and you know it's third and one and

778
00:32:48,376 --> 00:32:50,136
Speaker 3: they know it's third and one, and you're like that's

779
00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:53,256
Speaker 3: something that you do. You're like, oh god, all right,

780
00:32:53,336 --> 00:32:56,696
Speaker 3: let's just suck this one up and and you snap

781
00:32:56,736 --> 00:32:59,096
Speaker 3: it and you just get slaughtered. And some of them hurt,

782
00:32:59,376 --> 00:33:00,976
Speaker 3: some of them are more of a glancing bub but

783
00:33:01,016 --> 00:33:02,696
Speaker 3: you know you're gonna get hit, and then you can't

784
00:33:02,696 --> 00:33:05,376
Speaker 3: complain because you're running back back there gets twenty five.

785
00:33:05,416 --> 00:33:08,096
Speaker 3: If you're twenty five, carries a game and he gets

786
00:33:08,376 --> 00:33:11,296
Speaker 3: demolished and keeps getting back up, coming to the huddles

787
00:33:11,336 --> 00:33:12,256
Speaker 3: to go for that though.

788
00:33:12,416 --> 00:33:12,815
Speaker 6: I know that.

789
00:33:12,856 --> 00:33:13,016
Speaker 2: You know.

790
00:33:13,096 --> 00:33:14,896
Speaker 3: Belichick always used to say when I would take off

791
00:33:14,896 --> 00:33:19,016
Speaker 3: and run, especially when I was younger, and he'd be like, Castle, look,

792
00:33:19,976 --> 00:33:21,776
Speaker 3: do you think we want you running the football?

793
00:33:21,936 --> 00:33:22,856
Speaker 6: No, we don't want you.

794
00:33:23,016 --> 00:33:26,136
Speaker 3: We pay this guy your running backs, and you start

795
00:33:26,216 --> 00:33:27,976
Speaker 3: naming off all the running backs we pay them to

796
00:33:28,016 --> 00:33:30,856
Speaker 3: run the football. Don't run the football, Throw the thing

797
00:33:30,856 --> 00:33:32,016
Speaker 3: away and live for the next day.

798
00:33:32,056 --> 00:33:34,096
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, would you ever get a backup

799
00:33:34,256 --> 00:33:37,056
Speaker 1: or third string center? And you're like, this is not

800
00:33:37,176 --> 00:33:37,976
Speaker 1: going to be my day.

801
00:33:38,376 --> 00:33:39,456
Speaker 6: It's my worst nightmare.

802
00:33:40,016 --> 00:33:42,736
Speaker 3: And it wasn't even just the quarterbacks neat because those

803
00:33:42,816 --> 00:33:45,136
Speaker 3: are pretty aggressive for him too, because he knows there's

804
00:33:45,176 --> 00:33:47,976
Speaker 3: a nose guard usually over his face where he knows

805
00:33:48,016 --> 00:33:50,016
Speaker 3: that the snap's got to be clean, and so he's

806
00:33:50,096 --> 00:33:52,136
Speaker 3: it's got it's a difficult job. But when you had

807
00:33:52,176 --> 00:33:54,816
Speaker 3: a backup center in the game that you haven't got

808
00:33:54,856 --> 00:33:58,216
Speaker 3: a lot of reps with, there's nothing more embarrassing for

809
00:33:58,256 --> 00:34:00,656
Speaker 3: a quarterback than to fumble a snap, and we still

810
00:34:00,656 --> 00:34:01,016
Speaker 3: see it.

811
00:34:01,016 --> 00:34:03,376
Speaker 6: It's the most elementary part of the game. Right. You

812
00:34:03,416 --> 00:34:04,496
Speaker 6: do it when you're a young kid.

813
00:34:04,536 --> 00:34:06,936
Speaker 3: You take the snap from from center, but when all

814
00:34:06,936 --> 00:34:08,296
Speaker 3: of a sudden you're a little bit off with your

815
00:34:08,336 --> 00:34:09,976
Speaker 3: hand placement and you haven't got a lot of reps.

816
00:34:10,376 --> 00:34:13,496
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. That And then add on rain. One game,

817
00:34:14,176 --> 00:34:16,976
Speaker 3: Ryan Lilja or guard had to get moved to center

818
00:34:17,376 --> 00:34:19,456
Speaker 3: and it was raining against San Diego. We fumbled the

819
00:34:19,496 --> 00:34:23,136
Speaker 3: first two snaps. It was I was like, please Lord,

820
00:34:23,656 --> 00:34:24,536
Speaker 3: so please help me.

821
00:34:24,736 --> 00:34:27,896
Speaker 1: There is something to having repetition with the center, like

822
00:34:27,936 --> 00:34:30,776
Speaker 1: every snap, or is every center, because I've also had

823
00:34:31,096 --> 00:34:33,616
Speaker 1: a deep long snapper, right, But every center is different.

824
00:34:33,896 --> 00:34:35,096
Speaker 6: Every center is a little bit different.

825
00:34:35,136 --> 00:34:37,376
Speaker 3: They have a different feel the way the ball comes up,

826
00:34:37,456 --> 00:34:40,736
Speaker 3: the velocity in which it hits your hands. And if

827
00:34:40,776 --> 00:34:43,496
Speaker 3: sometimes when you get a center that maybe is not

828
00:34:43,776 --> 00:34:47,176
Speaker 3: on task as much. They you know, you're down here

829
00:34:47,176 --> 00:34:49,696
Speaker 3: with this with your hands like this, they shoot your

830
00:34:49,736 --> 00:34:52,416
Speaker 3: hands and then it'll go right through your because it

831
00:34:52,456 --> 00:34:54,576
Speaker 3: won't hit it won't hit your palm up top, which

832
00:34:54,696 --> 00:34:58,096
Speaker 3: that's really the aiming point. But then also the just

833
00:34:58,176 --> 00:35:01,376
Speaker 3: the length of their arm changes where they hit on

834
00:35:01,416 --> 00:35:02,056
Speaker 3: their butt.

835
00:35:02,296 --> 00:35:05,256
Speaker 2: Right, So some centers you want to get way underneath.

836
00:35:05,776 --> 00:35:08,256
Speaker 3: Other centers you can go further back because they got

837
00:35:08,296 --> 00:35:10,376
Speaker 3: longer arms, and that's just where they like to naturally

838
00:35:10,456 --> 00:35:12,136
Speaker 3: hit you. So that's what I'm talking about. It is

839
00:35:12,496 --> 00:35:15,136
Speaker 3: just these subtle changes that make all the difference.

840
00:35:15,976 --> 00:35:17,616
Speaker 1: That's why I wouldn't be an offensive line coach. I'd

841
00:35:17,616 --> 00:35:19,576
Speaker 1: be an offensive coordinator because I didn't know that. See that,

842
00:35:19,616 --> 00:35:22,336
Speaker 1: I'll admit I don't know the link of the arms center. Yeah,

843
00:35:22,456 --> 00:35:23,176
Speaker 1: makes a difference.

844
00:35:23,216 --> 00:35:26,376
Speaker 3: And there's nothing worse than when they forget that we're

845
00:35:26,376 --> 00:35:29,016
Speaker 3: doing a double cadence and they snap the ball when

846
00:35:29,056 --> 00:35:31,336
Speaker 3: you're not ready for it, and it jams your middle

847
00:35:31,336 --> 00:35:33,176
Speaker 3: finger and you feel like you broke all the fingers

848
00:35:33,176 --> 00:35:35,336
Speaker 3: in your hand. That's awesome too, And then you gotta

849
00:35:35,376 --> 00:35:36,296
Speaker 3: jump on it and go.

850
00:35:37,896 --> 00:35:38,176
Speaker 2: Coach.

851
00:35:38,256 --> 00:35:40,096
Speaker 6: That was my fault, Coach, that was my fault.

852
00:35:40,176 --> 00:35:43,896
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not, I would quit my offensive coordinator duties.

853
00:35:44,296 --> 00:35:46,976
Speaker 6: No, you definitely just m fs the entire time.

854
00:35:47,056 --> 00:35:49,855
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm already there, already already from home, and I'm like, wow,

855
00:35:49,976 --> 00:35:51,896
Speaker 1: why are you so stupid out there? I literally never

856
00:35:51,896 --> 00:35:59,776
Speaker 1: played a down of professional football so this is gonna

857
00:35:59,776 --> 00:36:04,896
Speaker 1: be called confirmer deny. I'm an uneducated with massive opinion person.

858
00:36:05,016 --> 00:36:09,616
Speaker 2: Okay, confirmer deny, got it. You are a wildly.

859
00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:12,016
Speaker 1: Educated when it comes to NFL, and you can confirm

860
00:36:12,056 --> 00:36:14,816
Speaker 1: my opinion or you can deny my opinion.

861
00:36:14,936 --> 00:36:16,736
Speaker 6: I think this is going to be really interesting and.

862
00:36:16,656 --> 00:36:18,376
Speaker 2: My feelings will always be hurt.

863
00:36:18,376 --> 00:36:18,976
Speaker 6: All right, here we go.

864
00:36:19,056 --> 00:36:25,416
Speaker 1: Number one, Will Evis is a bad quarterback. Confirmer deny.

865
00:36:26,216 --> 00:36:28,776
Speaker 1: It came strong with that right off the bat. I

866
00:36:28,936 --> 00:36:32,816
Speaker 1: will confirm that. Now. That doesn't mean that I can't

867
00:36:32,856 --> 00:36:34,216
Speaker 1: explain myself, right.

868
00:36:34,176 --> 00:36:36,256
Speaker 2: I hope you do, because I have thoughts too, and

869
00:36:36,256 --> 00:36:36,976
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're wrong.

870
00:36:37,016 --> 00:36:39,376
Speaker 3: Go ahead, though, Well, some of it has to do

871
00:36:39,576 --> 00:36:42,656
Speaker 3: with right now, the situation of the offensive unit, offensive

872
00:36:42,696 --> 00:36:46,216
Speaker 3: line struggles, the weapons that they have on the outside.

873
00:36:46,256 --> 00:36:47,936
Speaker 3: I know they went out and got Ridley, but he

874
00:36:47,976 --> 00:36:50,536
Speaker 3: doesn't have a number two or a number three guy

875
00:36:50,536 --> 00:36:52,696
Speaker 3: that he really can depend on. And part of this

876
00:36:52,816 --> 00:36:55,336
Speaker 3: also is him growing up in the NFL with a

877
00:36:55,376 --> 00:36:57,176
Speaker 3: bad team, and it's tough.

878
00:36:57,336 --> 00:36:58,616
Speaker 6: There's a lot of stress with that.

879
00:36:58,896 --> 00:37:01,176
Speaker 3: In addition to that, you have to play damn near

880
00:37:01,216 --> 00:37:04,136
Speaker 3: perfect because your defense is given up a lot of points.

881
00:37:04,176 --> 00:37:07,976
Speaker 3: You have to score consistently because you're probably playing from behind,

882
00:37:08,056 --> 00:37:10,176
Speaker 3: and then when you're not protected, the sense of urgency

883
00:37:10,216 --> 00:37:13,576
Speaker 3: for a quarterback goes off right, and so you're getting

884
00:37:13,656 --> 00:37:14,936
Speaker 3: rid of the ball when you shouldn't, or you're trying

885
00:37:14,976 --> 00:37:16,856
Speaker 3: to make a play you shouldn't. Like you saw early

886
00:37:16,896 --> 00:37:20,336
Speaker 3: in the season with the lateral the bad interceptions, you

887
00:37:20,336 --> 00:37:24,536
Speaker 3: know where you're forcing things that otherwise you wouldn't do

888
00:37:24,616 --> 00:37:27,016
Speaker 3: as a quarterback. So but if you're going to look

889
00:37:27,016 --> 00:37:30,936
Speaker 3: at it statistically, turnover issues all that, I would have

890
00:37:30,976 --> 00:37:31,696
Speaker 3: to confirm that.

891
00:37:32,336 --> 00:37:35,815
Speaker 1: So then you would say, so I say Will Loves

892
00:37:35,856 --> 00:37:37,416
Speaker 1: is the bad quarterback, but you would say Will Loves

893
00:37:37,456 --> 00:37:40,656
Speaker 1: is a bad quarterback dot dot dot. But his potential

894
00:37:40,776 --> 00:37:41,696
Speaker 1: is blank.

895
00:37:43,176 --> 00:37:44,816
Speaker 6: His potential is blank.

896
00:37:45,856 --> 00:37:50,296
Speaker 3: I believe that his potential is that he can become

897
00:37:50,656 --> 00:37:52,816
Speaker 3: a solid quarterback in the NFL. And the reason I

898
00:37:52,856 --> 00:37:55,456
Speaker 3: say that is you'll see him make the wild throw

899
00:37:55,616 --> 00:37:58,576
Speaker 3: and there'll be sequences throughout the course of a game

900
00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:01,296
Speaker 3: where you'll have nine completions in a row and then

901
00:38:01,336 --> 00:38:03,936
Speaker 3: he'll make the big mistake. And the biggest thing for

902
00:38:04,096 --> 00:38:07,336
Speaker 3: any quarterback is you just can't put your team in

903
00:38:07,376 --> 00:38:10,616
Speaker 3: a bad situation, and by that, I mean turnover the ball,

904
00:38:10,616 --> 00:38:12,376
Speaker 3: give him a short field. Even when you go back

905
00:38:12,376 --> 00:38:15,016
Speaker 3: early in the season against Chicago, Chicago had like just

906
00:38:15,056 --> 00:38:17,736
Speaker 3: over one hundred yards in that game offensively, and the

907
00:38:17,776 --> 00:38:20,576
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans lost that game, and part of it was

908
00:38:20,616 --> 00:38:22,896
Speaker 3: because of his turnovers. And so he's got to learn.

909
00:38:22,936 --> 00:38:24,976
Speaker 3: And I think that that's what the Tennessee Titans are

910
00:38:24,976 --> 00:38:27,056
Speaker 3: doing right now. They've got to find out if he's

911
00:38:27,096 --> 00:38:29,616
Speaker 3: the guy for the future, if they see development, and

912
00:38:29,816 --> 00:38:31,936
Speaker 3: I believe he has gotten better throughout the course of

913
00:38:31,936 --> 00:38:34,136
Speaker 3: the year, but they have to make a decision too

914
00:38:34,216 --> 00:38:36,696
Speaker 3: moving forward. Is this the guy because we're going to

915
00:38:36,736 --> 00:38:39,296
Speaker 3: have to build around him this offseason, and do we

916
00:38:39,336 --> 00:38:40,736
Speaker 3: believe he's the guy or do we have to go

917
00:38:40,776 --> 00:38:42,056
Speaker 3: out and look for somebody else.

918
00:38:42,256 --> 00:38:43,936
Speaker 2: Do you think he will be with the Titans next year.

919
00:38:44,896 --> 00:38:45,216
Speaker 2: I do.

920
00:38:45,336 --> 00:38:47,656
Speaker 3: I still think he's on a rookie contract that's favorable

921
00:38:47,656 --> 00:38:49,216
Speaker 3: to them. So even if they go out and get

922
00:38:49,216 --> 00:38:52,456
Speaker 3: a veteran's veteran presence, bring them in to compete for

923
00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:54,896
Speaker 3: the job and be a guy that maybe sits there

924
00:38:54,936 --> 00:38:57,536
Speaker 3: and learns behind a veteran, they have the ability to

925
00:38:57,536 --> 00:39:01,096
Speaker 3: do that because his contract's not so obs out there

926
00:39:01,096 --> 00:39:01,696
Speaker 3: and huge.

927
00:39:02,216 --> 00:39:05,736
Speaker 2: Look at me positive and educated. You know two things

928
00:39:05,776 --> 00:39:09,696
Speaker 2: we like. You know I'm uneducated. No, No, I mean because.

929
00:39:09,856 --> 00:39:12,216
Speaker 3: I think a lot of times we pigeonhole these quarterbacks

930
00:39:12,256 --> 00:39:14,616
Speaker 3: when they're not having really good years or they're having

931
00:39:14,616 --> 00:39:15,216
Speaker 3: a down year.

932
00:39:15,816 --> 00:39:17,656
Speaker 6: But you have to look at it holistically.

933
00:39:18,016 --> 00:39:21,456
Speaker 3: You can't take this micro approach and say, oh, well,

934
00:39:21,856 --> 00:39:23,816
Speaker 3: he's the reason why, because the quarterback is going to

935
00:39:23,896 --> 00:39:25,736
Speaker 3: get most of the credit when things go well. They're

936
00:39:25,776 --> 00:39:27,776
Speaker 3: going to get a lot of credit when things go bad.

937
00:39:28,096 --> 00:39:30,536
Speaker 3: And it's it doesn't always tell the story because there's

938
00:39:30,576 --> 00:39:33,416
Speaker 3: so many different factors to not only being a good

939
00:39:33,456 --> 00:39:36,096
Speaker 3: team but also being a good quarterback. You have to

940
00:39:36,096 --> 00:39:38,376
Speaker 3: have the surrounding pieces because no, I don't care who

941
00:39:38,456 --> 00:39:41,136
Speaker 3: you are. If you put Patrick Mahomes on a really,

942
00:39:41,176 --> 00:39:44,056
Speaker 3: really bad team, you'll see him struggle At times.

943
00:39:44,416 --> 00:39:46,456
Speaker 1: I will say Will Levis looks better than any football

944
00:39:46,496 --> 00:39:48,576
Speaker 1: player in their uniform in the NFL period.

945
00:39:48,816 --> 00:39:50,936
Speaker 2: He's ripped, he is, Oh, he looks the best. The

946
00:39:51,456 --> 00:39:52,176
Speaker 2: dude's jacked.

947
00:39:52,296 --> 00:39:56,056
Speaker 1: I saw him this Saturday. We were in the same place.

948
00:39:56,096 --> 00:39:58,016
Speaker 1: He's getting some treatment done. I've been a little I

949
00:39:58,056 --> 00:40:00,576
Speaker 1: love something and he was getting some stuff done and

950
00:40:00,616 --> 00:40:03,016
Speaker 1: I saw him and I think he's been garbage as

951
00:40:03,016 --> 00:40:04,776
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I'm not saying he will always be garbage,

952
00:40:04,776 --> 00:40:07,936
Speaker 1: but he's been garbage. It's been my uneducated opinion. And

953
00:40:08,136 --> 00:40:10,256
Speaker 1: but I've said it a few times and I thought, well,

954
00:40:10,296 --> 00:40:11,736
Speaker 1: Will Loves comes up to me and says, hey, you

955
00:40:11,816 --> 00:40:12,776
Speaker 1: been saying I'm garbage?

956
00:40:12,816 --> 00:40:13,376
Speaker 2: What I would say?

957
00:40:13,376 --> 00:40:16,736
Speaker 3: I want to be prepared the most awkward situation when

958
00:40:16,736 --> 00:40:17,576
Speaker 3: somebody calls you out.

959
00:40:17,776 --> 00:40:18,936
Speaker 1: So I, no, I don't want to be the guys

960
00:40:18,976 --> 00:40:21,496
Speaker 1: like no, audn't say that because I did. That doesn't

961
00:40:21,496 --> 00:40:24,216
Speaker 1: mean as a person, but for me just watching on TV,

962
00:40:24,256 --> 00:40:25,896
Speaker 1: he's been really bad and the Titans have also been

963
00:40:25,936 --> 00:40:26,896
Speaker 1: really bad, right, And.

964
00:40:26,856 --> 00:40:28,656
Speaker 2: So I thought, if he comes up to me and

965
00:40:28,696 --> 00:40:29,536
Speaker 2: he says, what are you saying?

966
00:40:29,576 --> 00:40:30,536
Speaker 6: I was garbage?

967
00:40:30,536 --> 00:40:33,576
Speaker 1: My response was going to be this, what would you

968
00:40:33,656 --> 00:40:36,776
Speaker 1: say about if I were me watching you on television?

969
00:40:37,376 --> 00:40:40,536
Speaker 2: And I think he'd probably been like that same, that's strong,

970
00:40:40,616 --> 00:40:43,096
Speaker 2: strong comeback right there. I was prepared for that. I

971
00:40:43,096 --> 00:40:44,576
Speaker 2: was ready, though, it's just in case, am I going

972
00:40:44,616 --> 00:40:45,616
Speaker 2: to confirm or deny that?

973
00:40:45,816 --> 00:40:45,976
Speaker 5: Uh?

974
00:40:46,136 --> 00:40:47,616
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's gonna be a tough one.

975
00:40:47,456 --> 00:40:52,976
Speaker 2: All right, confirmer, Deny McCarthy's a good football coach in Dallas.

976
00:40:53,016 --> 00:40:54,256
Speaker 2: He's a good football coach.

977
00:40:58,536 --> 00:41:01,856
Speaker 3: I'm going to confirm that McCarthy is a good football coach.

978
00:41:02,136 --> 00:41:04,376
Speaker 3: His track record speaks for itself. This guy won a

979
00:41:04,416 --> 00:41:08,856
Speaker 3: Super Bowl with the Bay Packers. Now, some of the

980
00:41:08,896 --> 00:41:13,536
Speaker 3: decision makings, that decision making that he's had throughout his

981
00:41:13,616 --> 00:41:16,936
Speaker 3: tenure with Dallas, and I'm talking mainly situational football into

982
00:41:16,976 --> 00:41:18,816
Speaker 3: the game stuff where you should take a time out

983
00:41:18,896 --> 00:41:20,896
Speaker 3: or you shouldn't take a time out. Stuff like that

984
00:41:21,656 --> 00:41:24,056
Speaker 3: have been a little bit concerning, maybe lost an edge

985
00:41:24,136 --> 00:41:26,256
Speaker 3: at a certain point. But then again, when you look

986
00:41:26,256 --> 00:41:30,256
Speaker 3: at this team, they've also been devastated with injury as well.

987
00:41:30,856 --> 00:41:33,456
Speaker 3: When you I played for the Dallas Cowboys, when you're there,

988
00:41:34,496 --> 00:41:38,456
Speaker 3: everybody watches you, whether you're good or bad. But every

989
00:41:38,536 --> 00:41:41,096
Speaker 3: year the expectation is Super Bowl or bust.

990
00:41:41,816 --> 00:41:43,976
Speaker 2: I like McCarthy. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but I

991
00:41:44,016 --> 00:41:46,416
Speaker 2: like Macarthy. I think, you know, his contracts up this year.

992
00:41:46,936 --> 00:41:49,896
Speaker 1: I think they give him another year unless they can,

993
00:41:49,976 --> 00:41:53,736
Speaker 1: Unless they for sure can get like a Rabel, right.

994
00:41:53,896 --> 00:41:55,896
Speaker 3: You'd have to get a brand name and somebody also

995
00:41:55,976 --> 00:41:59,936
Speaker 3: that fits into that world because Jerry. This organization's run

996
00:42:00,016 --> 00:42:02,536
Speaker 3: by Jerry Jones, and you have to have a relationship

997
00:42:02,536 --> 00:42:04,096
Speaker 3: with him and you have to take the.

998
00:42:04,056 --> 00:42:04,736
Speaker 2: Good and the bad.

999
00:42:04,936 --> 00:42:06,256
Speaker 6: Like when we were done with games.

1000
00:42:06,256 --> 00:42:08,216
Speaker 3: This is the only place I've ever been that this happened,

1001
00:42:08,576 --> 00:42:12,056
Speaker 3: that Jerry Jones would speak to the team before Garrett

1002
00:42:12,056 --> 00:42:14,176
Speaker 3: would speak to the team. Like I've never had an

1003
00:42:14,216 --> 00:42:17,336
Speaker 3: owner company after a game and be the first one

1004
00:42:17,336 --> 00:42:20,256
Speaker 3: to speak. But you just it's understood. And I'll tell

1005
00:42:20,296 --> 00:42:23,496
Speaker 3: you what. He's an incredible owner. He'll do anything for

1006
00:42:23,536 --> 00:42:26,096
Speaker 3: his team, but he wants to win, but everything goes

1007
00:42:26,096 --> 00:42:30,576
Speaker 3: through him. So sometimes I think that head coach ownership

1008
00:42:30,616 --> 00:42:33,976
Speaker 3: relationship gets a little bit blurred because of that reason.

1009
00:42:34,536 --> 00:42:37,936
Speaker 1: I am extremely biased and again not a Cowboys fan. However,

1010
00:42:38,096 --> 00:42:40,576
Speaker 1: I emailed the Dallas Cowboys. Next thing, you know me,

1011
00:42:40,856 --> 00:42:43,296
Speaker 1: my buddy Eddie, who's at Dallas Cowboys fan. We're in

1012
00:42:43,656 --> 00:42:47,736
Speaker 1: Jerry's chopper with Jerry. Yeah, with the headset on. Jerry's

1013
00:42:47,776 --> 00:42:48,576
Speaker 1: like taking us to it.

1014
00:42:48,736 --> 00:42:49,976
Speaker 6: We run a suite. He took.

1015
00:42:49,976 --> 00:42:51,176
Speaker 2: It was the greatest thing ever.

1016
00:42:51,256 --> 00:42:53,816
Speaker 1: I love Jerry Jones, and only because he replied to

1017
00:42:53,816 --> 00:42:55,176
Speaker 1: an email and then let me come and do everything

1018
00:42:55,216 --> 00:42:55,776
Speaker 1: with him one day.

1019
00:42:56,016 --> 00:42:58,616
Speaker 3: I love Jerry Jones. And it started when I got

1020
00:42:58,656 --> 00:43:01,456
Speaker 3: traded from the Buffalo Bills week three to Dallas. My

1021
00:43:01,496 --> 00:43:04,776
Speaker 3: wife was thirty four weeks pregnant. So the next day

1022
00:43:04,936 --> 00:43:06,896
Speaker 3: I jump on a plane. I get on Southwest and

1023
00:43:06,936 --> 00:43:08,896
Speaker 3: go to Dallas. But I was like, one of my

1024
00:43:09,096 --> 00:43:12,056
Speaker 3: concerns was getting my family to Dallas because she wasn't

1025
00:43:12,096 --> 00:43:14,256
Speaker 3: really supposed to fly. He's like, don't wear a mat.

1026
00:43:14,576 --> 00:43:16,456
Speaker 3: I'll take care of it. He also his first statement

1027
00:43:16,496 --> 00:43:18,736
Speaker 3: out of his mouth was Matt, welcome to the greatest

1028
00:43:18,776 --> 00:43:20,136
Speaker 3: franchise in all NFL.

1029
00:43:20,616 --> 00:43:22,456
Speaker 6: Like that, I was like, yes, this is awesome.

1030
00:43:22,576 --> 00:43:25,456
Speaker 3: But he sent a plane out to get my family

1031
00:43:25,496 --> 00:43:27,576
Speaker 3: in Buffalo, and he's like, be discreet about it. You

1032
00:43:27,576 --> 00:43:29,936
Speaker 3: don't need to tell anybody. Well, my wife walks up,

1033
00:43:29,976 --> 00:43:32,936
Speaker 3: takes a picture. It's got the huge Dallas Cowboys star

1034
00:43:32,976 --> 00:43:35,616
Speaker 3: on the side. I was like, that's not being too discreet.

1035
00:43:35,656 --> 00:43:38,976
Speaker 3: But I was so thankful because he's he cares about

1036
00:43:38,976 --> 00:43:41,576
Speaker 3: his players, but he also cares about the families that

1037
00:43:41,616 --> 00:43:42,336
Speaker 3: are involved too.

1038
00:43:42,456 --> 00:43:45,776
Speaker 1: For these players. That's like a dude who cares about dudes. Yeah,

1039
00:43:45,816 --> 00:43:46,456
Speaker 1: and that's cool.

1040
00:43:46,976 --> 00:43:48,496
Speaker 3: I mean, and you could go into his office and

1041
00:43:48,536 --> 00:43:50,416
Speaker 3: talk to him anytime, and it's like talking to an

1042
00:43:50,456 --> 00:43:53,936
Speaker 3: old friend and the stories that he has and just

1043
00:43:54,336 --> 00:43:56,736
Speaker 3: what he's been through in his life and his upbringing

1044
00:43:56,816 --> 00:43:58,496
Speaker 3: and then to make it to where he's been. He

1045
00:43:58,536 --> 00:44:02,416
Speaker 3: always loved football, but the Dallas Cowboys they're his baby.

1046
00:44:02,736 --> 00:44:05,656
Speaker 3: And I mean he's face, one of the face of

1047
00:44:05,696 --> 00:44:07,456
Speaker 3: the NFL and has been for a long period of time.

1048
00:44:07,656 --> 00:44:12,576
Speaker 2: And Arkansas rights back National champion. That's why.

1049
00:44:13,016 --> 00:44:14,696
Speaker 6: Okay, that makes more sense now, all.

1050
00:44:14,616 --> 00:44:18,656
Speaker 1: Right, confirm or deny. Trevor Lawrence is a really good quarterback.

1051
00:44:23,336 --> 00:44:26,656
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Deny because he hasn't been

1052
00:44:26,656 --> 00:44:27,616
Speaker 3: able to prove that.

1053
00:44:27,736 --> 00:44:28,496
Speaker 6: And the whole thing.

1054
00:44:28,576 --> 00:44:30,856
Speaker 3: If you're going to say a quarterback's really good in

1055
00:44:30,856 --> 00:44:34,536
Speaker 3: the NFL, you have to have consistency. And I know

1056
00:44:34,976 --> 00:44:38,616
Speaker 3: what he came into with that organization and the coaches,

1057
00:44:38,896 --> 00:44:41,776
Speaker 3: the coach getting fired with Urban Meyer halfway through the

1058
00:44:41,816 --> 00:44:44,616
Speaker 3: season and all that stuff. That's chaotic for anybody, especially

1059
00:44:44,616 --> 00:44:46,736
Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback who is seen as the savior of

1060
00:44:46,776 --> 00:44:49,496
Speaker 3: a franchise. And he's got all the talent in the world.

1061
00:44:49,696 --> 00:44:52,096
Speaker 3: He was considered a generational talent when he was coming

1062
00:44:52,096 --> 00:44:54,656
Speaker 3: out and deservedly so the guy hadn't lost the game

1063
00:44:54,896 --> 00:44:57,176
Speaker 3: in college. I don't think maybe lost one game in college,

1064
00:44:57,216 --> 00:44:59,816
Speaker 3: didn't lose a game in high school. And he was exceptional,

1065
00:45:00,296 --> 00:45:04,376
Speaker 3: but he hasn't consistently shown the ability to perform week

1066
00:45:04,416 --> 00:45:07,496
Speaker 3: in and week out. And that's an issue. If you're

1067
00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:09,176
Speaker 3: going to say somebody is really good in the NFL,

1068
00:45:09,296 --> 00:45:10,456
Speaker 3: you have to have longevity.

1069
00:45:10,696 --> 00:45:11,576
Speaker 6: You have to stay healthy.

1070
00:45:11,616 --> 00:45:14,536
Speaker 3: But in addition to that, you have to show that

1071
00:45:14,696 --> 00:45:18,696
Speaker 3: you can sustain success week in and week out. He

1072
00:45:18,696 --> 00:45:21,576
Speaker 3: did want a playoff game, he did, But you said,

1073
00:45:21,656 --> 00:45:24,976
Speaker 3: really good quarterback. That's like upper echelon quarterback play. See

1074
00:45:25,336 --> 00:45:25,896
Speaker 3: I've got an.

1075
00:45:25,816 --> 00:45:26,376
Speaker 6: Argument for you.

1076
00:45:26,536 --> 00:45:27,656
Speaker 2: No, you win again.

1077
00:45:27,776 --> 00:45:30,936
Speaker 1: I am the uneducated guy with a big opinion, and

1078
00:45:30,976 --> 00:45:32,776
Speaker 1: it's almost like whatever you say wins. I hate this

1079
00:45:32,776 --> 00:45:34,976
Speaker 1: game because whatever you say wins. So I'm listening. I'm

1080
00:45:35,016 --> 00:45:35,536
Speaker 1: taking out of you.

1081
00:45:35,696 --> 00:45:38,216
Speaker 3: Oh good, So there's no you don't lose, so I

1082
00:45:38,216 --> 00:45:41,336
Speaker 3: get a buye, I get to buy all right?

1083
00:45:41,376 --> 00:45:44,736
Speaker 2: Two more. Bryce Young can be a top ten NFL quarterback.

1084
00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:49,776
Speaker 3: I love the way he's responded this season, and I'll

1085
00:45:49,776 --> 00:45:53,456
Speaker 3: say yes to that. The reason is is you can

1086
00:45:53,576 --> 00:45:56,216
Speaker 3: find out more about the character of a player when

1087
00:45:56,216 --> 00:45:59,696
Speaker 3: he goes through the difficult adverse times and you talk

1088
00:45:59,736 --> 00:46:01,936
Speaker 3: about the low of lows. I've been benched before. It's

1089
00:46:02,056 --> 00:46:04,936
Speaker 3: brutal right. You hear the noise. You're a guy that's

1090
00:46:05,016 --> 00:46:07,736
Speaker 3: come in and you're you got drafted what number one

1091
00:46:07,776 --> 00:46:11,816
Speaker 3: overall and struggled through his first season, gets benched early

1092
00:46:11,856 --> 00:46:14,576
Speaker 3: in the year and like some people were writing him

1093
00:46:14,576 --> 00:46:17,936
Speaker 3: off already. But the way that he's played once he

1094
00:46:18,296 --> 00:46:20,656
Speaker 3: returned into the starting lineup, I've got a lot of

1095
00:46:20,656 --> 00:46:23,096
Speaker 3: respect for him. You can see the skill set, some

1096
00:46:23,096 --> 00:46:25,536
Speaker 3: some click for him, and sometimes it is just stepping

1097
00:46:25,576 --> 00:46:30,336
Speaker 3: away and watching and absorbing and being around a veteran quarterback.

1098
00:46:29,976 --> 00:46:32,056
Speaker 6: Isn't is Dalton there? He is there yet? Yeah?

1099
00:46:32,096 --> 00:46:34,056
Speaker 1: So Dalton's there and again a car wreck, which is

1100
00:46:34,056 --> 00:46:36,456
Speaker 1: why Bryce Young came back to start again after Dalton

1101
00:46:36,496 --> 00:46:37,216
Speaker 1: was in the car accident.

1102
00:46:37,936 --> 00:46:39,496
Speaker 6: I didn't know that. That's wild.

1103
00:46:39,616 --> 00:46:42,616
Speaker 2: He didn't die, so you go, oh, yeah, I just didn't.

1104
00:46:43,016 --> 00:46:44,176
Speaker 6: I was like, I think I would have heard that

1105
00:46:45,336 --> 00:46:46,056
Speaker 6: they were.

1106
00:46:46,536 --> 00:46:49,616
Speaker 3: Yeah, this became a little bit more tragic than just

1107
00:46:49,696 --> 00:46:53,496
Speaker 3: Bryce Young returning to the field. But just I think

1108
00:46:53,576 --> 00:46:57,216
Speaker 3: he's he's been consistent, He's shown the ability to put

1109
00:46:57,216 --> 00:46:59,136
Speaker 3: his team in a position to win games, even though

1110
00:46:59,176 --> 00:47:01,296
Speaker 3: they haven't won an a bunch of these games. I

1111
00:47:01,336 --> 00:47:03,296
Speaker 3: just like the way that he responded, and I think

1112
00:47:03,296 --> 00:47:06,096
Speaker 3: that he's got a really bright future. It's taken him

1113
00:47:06,096 --> 00:47:07,816
Speaker 3: a little while to adjust to that game, and some

1114
00:47:07,896 --> 00:47:09,336
Speaker 3: of it has to do with when you come to

1115
00:47:09,376 --> 00:47:12,296
Speaker 3: the out of the college game, which is much different.

1116
00:47:12,336 --> 00:47:15,256
Speaker 3: You're never under center, you're always in shotgun. He's got

1117
00:47:15,296 --> 00:47:18,896
Speaker 3: some he's got some issues in terms of just overall

1118
00:47:18,936 --> 00:47:20,936
Speaker 3: height and all those but you can tell the dude

1119
00:47:20,976 --> 00:47:23,536
Speaker 3: plays at a high level when he's on, and he

1120
00:47:23,616 --> 00:47:25,496
Speaker 3: has done that throughout the course of the year.

1121
00:47:25,896 --> 00:47:29,736
Speaker 1: Okay, last one, confirmer Deny Tua is far better than

1122
00:47:29,776 --> 00:47:32,136
Speaker 1: people gave him credit for, as made a parent by

1123
00:47:32,176 --> 00:47:35,256
Speaker 1: him being gone and then losing way more than now.

1124
00:47:35,336 --> 00:47:38,176
Speaker 1: They're winning more than losing bad game last week. But

1125
00:47:38,256 --> 00:47:39,336
Speaker 1: let's that guy that Diden happening.

1126
00:47:39,456 --> 00:47:41,976
Speaker 6: I'll confirm that. I mean, I believe Tua.

1127
00:47:42,976 --> 00:47:45,416
Speaker 3: Just look at his body of work going even back

1128
00:47:45,456 --> 00:47:50,176
Speaker 3: to college, and he's a guy that is understated in

1129
00:47:49,896 --> 00:47:53,496
Speaker 3: some ways just because of his personality. He's not real boisterous,

1130
00:47:53,736 --> 00:47:55,176
Speaker 3: he's not going to be in your face. But when

1131
00:47:55,176 --> 00:47:57,855
Speaker 3: he goes out in the field. He is a guy

1132
00:47:57,896 --> 00:48:00,416
Speaker 3: that knows the offense, gets rid of the ball, and

1133
00:48:00,416 --> 00:48:03,335
Speaker 3: knows where his playmakers are, and he elevates the team

1134
00:48:03,376 --> 00:48:06,536
Speaker 3: around him. Because we saw in his apps they lost

1135
00:48:06,536 --> 00:48:09,176
Speaker 3: what four straight or something like that. And so now

1136
00:48:09,656 --> 00:48:13,056
Speaker 3: he comes back to the lineup after another concussion and

1137
00:48:13,176 --> 00:48:15,616
Speaker 3: has crushed really until like you said last week, and

1138
00:48:15,656 --> 00:48:17,936
Speaker 3: you're going to have those games as a quarterback. I mean,

1139
00:48:18,256 --> 00:48:21,856
Speaker 3: nobody walks in for seventeen games straight and doesn't have

1140
00:48:21,856 --> 00:48:24,016
Speaker 3: that bad day. I mean, there's too many good players

1141
00:48:24,016 --> 00:48:25,776
Speaker 3: on the opposite side of the ball where it's just

1142
00:48:25,816 --> 00:48:28,376
Speaker 3: not going well that day and you gotta suck it up.

1143
00:48:28,376 --> 00:48:32,736
Speaker 3: But I believe that Tua is the franchise quarterback for

1144
00:48:32,776 --> 00:48:36,536
Speaker 3: that organization and fits what they do offensively perfectly.

1145
00:48:52,096 --> 00:48:55,176
Speaker 1: Exciting getting into the playoffs this weekend a question the

1146
00:48:55,216 --> 00:48:57,496
Speaker 1: Falcons did not make the playoffs. Kirk Cousins is not

1147
00:48:57,496 --> 00:49:00,216
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback the Falcons next year. A

1148
00:49:00,376 --> 00:49:03,136
Speaker 1: question about being the quarterback when things aren't going right

1149
00:49:03,176 --> 00:49:06,496
Speaker 1: because Cousins I think was hurt. That's a crazy injury.

1150
00:49:06,496 --> 00:49:08,496
Speaker 1: The achilles is a hard injury to bounce back from,

1151
00:49:08,576 --> 00:49:11,136
Speaker 1: really difficult. Did you ever have, because I felt like

1152
00:49:11,136 --> 00:49:15,776
Speaker 1: there were times he wasn't able to throw the ball

1153
00:49:15,896 --> 00:49:18,296
Speaker 1: with as much velocity as he normally does. Obviously you

1154
00:49:18,336 --> 00:49:20,656
Speaker 1: need your legs to be able to do that. Did

1155
00:49:20,656 --> 00:49:22,096
Speaker 1: you ever have games and it could have been an

1156
00:49:22,136 --> 00:49:23,816
Speaker 1: injury or it just could have been you felt weird,

1157
00:49:24,376 --> 00:49:27,816
Speaker 1: We're just nothing went right, A're just like, what the

1158
00:49:27,856 --> 00:49:28,696
Speaker 1: heck is going on?

1159
00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:32,776
Speaker 3: Well, it's one of those crazy dynamics as a quarterback

1160
00:49:32,816 --> 00:49:34,776
Speaker 3: because you could be on a hot streak and then

1161
00:49:34,816 --> 00:49:37,136
Speaker 3: all of a sudden come into a game utmost of

1162
00:49:37,176 --> 00:49:39,736
Speaker 3: confidence and things just aren't going well.

1163
00:49:39,776 --> 00:49:42,016
Speaker 6: Like you come out for warm ups. It might be

1164
00:49:42,176 --> 00:49:42,856
Speaker 6: the ball's.

1165
00:49:42,616 --> 00:49:44,896
Speaker 3: Not coming out of my arm, coming off my hand

1166
00:49:44,936 --> 00:49:46,696
Speaker 3: really well, and then all of a sudden you get

1167
00:49:46,696 --> 00:49:51,096
Speaker 3: in the game and it's one bad play early on

1168
00:49:51,216 --> 00:49:53,096
Speaker 3: or something like that, and it starts to unravel. Or

1169
00:49:53,096 --> 00:49:55,616
Speaker 3: it could be something as simplistic as a guy's got

1170
00:49:55,656 --> 00:49:58,416
Speaker 3: a crossing route, hits his hands, bounces up, other team

1171
00:49:58,496 --> 00:50:00,376
Speaker 3: grabs it, takes it back for a pick six, and

1172
00:50:00,456 --> 00:50:01,256
Speaker 3: you got a rally.

1173
00:50:01,576 --> 00:50:04,456
Speaker 6: And again it's a game of ebbs and flows.

1174
00:50:04,456 --> 00:50:06,656
Speaker 3: But there's just some of those games where you can't

1175
00:50:06,656 --> 00:50:07,616
Speaker 3: pull yourself out of it.

1176
00:50:07,696 --> 00:50:08,496
Speaker 6: I was in Minnesota.

1177
00:50:08,496 --> 00:50:10,896
Speaker 3: We're playing the Patriots one year, and we went in

1178
00:50:10,936 --> 00:50:14,536
Speaker 3: that game feeling like we could compete against these guys.

1179
00:50:14,576 --> 00:50:18,496
Speaker 3: We go right down the field, first, first series score, touchdown, Boom. Okay,

1180
00:50:18,496 --> 00:50:20,696
Speaker 3: we're off to a good start. From that point on,

1181
00:50:21,296 --> 00:50:23,856
Speaker 3: it was a complete disaster. I tried to throw a

1182
00:50:23,896 --> 00:50:27,176
Speaker 3: post route down the middle. Mccordy picks it off, come back,

1183
00:50:27,456 --> 00:50:29,815
Speaker 3: revis baits me, try to throw it over his head.

1184
00:50:29,976 --> 00:50:33,656
Speaker 3: Interception number two. Now I've got Cordel Patterson running in cut,

1185
00:50:33,856 --> 00:50:35,335
Speaker 3: he fades on his incut.

1186
00:50:34,976 --> 00:50:36,856
Speaker 6: Gets undercut. Interception number three.

1187
00:50:36,976 --> 00:50:39,496
Speaker 3: Ball gets tipped up in the air off a defensive

1188
00:50:39,536 --> 00:50:42,536
Speaker 3: lineman's hands in interception number four, And you just leave

1189
00:50:42,576 --> 00:50:44,416
Speaker 3: there and you go in the locker room and you go,

1190
00:50:44,936 --> 00:50:47,815
Speaker 3: what the hell just happened? You know, And it's it's

1191
00:50:48,056 --> 00:50:50,296
Speaker 3: a mental grind because those are the ones that you

1192
00:50:50,296 --> 00:50:52,016
Speaker 3: want to go put your head in the hole and

1193
00:50:52,056 --> 00:50:54,456
Speaker 3: not come out for a few days. But you've got

1194
00:50:54,456 --> 00:50:56,816
Speaker 3: to go rally yourself and pull yourself back out of it.

1195
00:50:56,856 --> 00:50:58,976
Speaker 3: But those are just days that happened in the NFL

1196
00:50:58,976 --> 00:51:01,456
Speaker 3: where you're just a little bit off and things don't

1197
00:51:01,456 --> 00:51:04,896
Speaker 3: go your well away and there's enough good players on

1198
00:51:04,936 --> 00:51:07,856
Speaker 3: the opposite side to where if you make that minimal mistake,

1199
00:51:07,936 --> 00:51:08,296
Speaker 3: they're going.

1200
00:51:08,296 --> 00:51:09,096
Speaker 6: To capitalize on it.

1201
00:51:09,816 --> 00:51:11,376
Speaker 1: If I'm going to do the radio show in the morning,

1202
00:51:11,416 --> 00:51:13,776
Speaker 1: or if I'm gonna be on stage and I'm not

1203
00:51:13,816 --> 00:51:16,056
Speaker 1: feeling good, I have a sore throat, like nobody cares,

1204
00:51:16,256 --> 00:51:17,176
Speaker 1: and I don't.

1205
00:51:17,016 --> 00:51:17,976
Speaker 2: Talk about it, but I'd like to.

1206
00:51:18,376 --> 00:51:21,376
Speaker 1: I wish people knew that, Man, I got a crazy

1207
00:51:21,376 --> 00:51:24,416
Speaker 1: sore throat. I don't say it, but I wish they

1208
00:51:24,536 --> 00:51:27,896
Speaker 1: knew that. Maybe I'm not as funny or as active

1209
00:51:27,896 --> 00:51:30,416
Speaker 1: as I normally would be, but I'm hurt. But I

1210
00:51:30,416 --> 00:51:32,856
Speaker 1: haven't said anything because again, nobody cares. Did you ever

1211
00:51:32,896 --> 00:51:35,856
Speaker 1: feel like you're mildly injured and you wanted everybody to know?

1212
00:51:35,976 --> 00:51:38,776
Speaker 1: This is why you weren't it? But you nobody knew.

1213
00:51:39,336 --> 00:51:42,176
Speaker 3: Guys, I sucked today because I had a sprained MCL

1214
00:51:42,296 --> 00:51:45,216
Speaker 3: and I can't tell you guys that and make an excuse.

1215
00:51:44,896 --> 00:51:46,815
Speaker 2: Is that everything where like you were kind of hurt,

1216
00:51:47,096 --> 00:51:49,456
Speaker 2: oh one hundred percent all the time when nobody knew,

1217
00:51:49,456 --> 00:51:51,496
Speaker 2: And You're like, I just wish people knew that I had.

1218
00:51:51,336 --> 00:51:53,736
Speaker 3: A sprained ankle one game and you're out there and

1219
00:51:53,776 --> 00:51:55,976
Speaker 3: you tape it up, you shoot it up, but you're

1220
00:51:56,016 --> 00:51:58,056
Speaker 3: just not yourself. Like you said, you can't plant, you

1221
00:51:58,056 --> 00:52:01,136
Speaker 3: can't push off, And there's those moments and you miss

1222
00:52:01,216 --> 00:52:03,776
Speaker 3: certain throws, you're high on certain throws, whatever it might be,

1223
00:52:04,456 --> 00:52:06,776
Speaker 3: and you're sitting there going if they only knew, or

1224
00:52:06,776 --> 00:52:09,936
Speaker 3: if I could answer this question appropriately and tell them, look,

1225
00:52:10,056 --> 00:52:13,696
Speaker 3: you jerks, like I'm sitting here, I'm playing in pain.

1226
00:52:13,856 --> 00:52:15,776
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get through this game. And that's why

1227
00:52:15,776 --> 00:52:17,976
Speaker 3: I missed that throw. It's not just because I suck.

1228
00:52:18,336 --> 00:52:20,496
Speaker 3: It's just I couldn't push off my back foot or

1229
00:52:20,496 --> 00:52:23,736
Speaker 3: something like that. But that's again the same reason what

1230
00:52:23,776 --> 00:52:27,496
Speaker 3: we had talked about before. Is when somebody runs the

1231
00:52:27,496 --> 00:52:30,016
Speaker 3: wrong route and you throw an interception or when they're

1232
00:52:30,056 --> 00:52:32,216
Speaker 3: not the right right depth, and you've got to wear

1233
00:52:32,256 --> 00:52:35,216
Speaker 3: that as the quarterback and just say, you know what,

1234
00:52:35,576 --> 00:52:37,496
Speaker 3: I've got to do a better job, make a better decision,

1235
00:52:37,576 --> 00:52:40,856
Speaker 3: and your teammates respect you. And there are also those

1236
00:52:40,896 --> 00:52:42,256
Speaker 3: games where you go out there and you don't feel

1237
00:52:42,256 --> 00:52:44,336
Speaker 3: your best and you're dealing with something, but you play

1238
00:52:44,336 --> 00:52:45,016
Speaker 3: out of your mind.

1239
00:52:45,496 --> 00:52:46,376
Speaker 2: And I had a.

1240
00:52:46,296 --> 00:52:48,456
Speaker 3: Game in Denver one year where I literally had a

1241
00:52:48,456 --> 00:52:51,336
Speaker 3: spring to ankle. My ankle was swollen up, like this

1242
00:52:51,816 --> 00:52:53,696
Speaker 3: went out played, but I threw for four hundred yards.

1243
00:52:53,696 --> 00:52:56,296
Speaker 3: I have no idea why. It was like, I was

1244
00:52:56,336 --> 00:52:58,456
Speaker 3: like super calm. I was just like, yeah, I'm just

1245
00:52:58,496 --> 00:53:00,136
Speaker 3: gonna let it rip. I stayed in the pocket the

1246
00:53:00,256 --> 00:53:02,256
Speaker 3: entire time. Maybe that was it. I wasn't overthinking things.

1247
00:53:02,296 --> 00:53:03,856
Speaker 3: I was like, I know, I've got to be stationary,

1248
00:53:03,896 --> 00:53:05,936
Speaker 3: but I just got to let it rip. Hearing things

1249
00:53:05,936 --> 00:53:08,976
Speaker 3: in the pocket around, do you hear that at all?

1250
00:53:09,216 --> 00:53:13,096
Speaker 3: Or is it you're so active in trying to find things,

1251
00:53:13,176 --> 00:53:15,656
Speaker 3: You're so focused on what you're trying to do and

1252
00:53:15,696 --> 00:53:19,016
Speaker 3: go through reads and also see the defense at the

1253
00:53:19,056 --> 00:53:21,536
Speaker 3: same time that you know that there's just chaos always

1254
00:53:21,576 --> 00:53:24,256
Speaker 3: going around and you're trained to deal with that, and

1255
00:53:24,696 --> 00:53:27,536
Speaker 3: you don't really hear what's going on. Now after the play,

1256
00:53:27,536 --> 00:53:29,176
Speaker 3: when somebody hits you in your face and they want

1257
00:53:29,176 --> 00:53:32,416
Speaker 3: to talk smack to you, they definitely you can hear that, right,

1258
00:53:32,776 --> 00:53:34,936
Speaker 3: But when a play is actually going on, there's so

1259
00:53:35,016 --> 00:53:37,776
Speaker 3: many different thoughts. Okay, motion, do I have a check

1260
00:53:38,056 --> 00:53:39,696
Speaker 3: check with me? Is what we would call it. We

1261
00:53:39,816 --> 00:53:41,896
Speaker 3: got two plays in the huddle. Is the safety rotated

1262
00:53:41,936 --> 00:53:42,696
Speaker 3: down Okay.

1263
00:53:42,576 --> 00:53:44,576
Speaker 2: I'm alert and alert aler alert.

1264
00:53:44,536 --> 00:53:46,496
Speaker 3: Hey, and then I might have to quicken up my

1265
00:53:46,536 --> 00:53:49,376
Speaker 3: cadence and go, oh myhes it go, which lets everybody

1266
00:53:49,376 --> 00:53:51,136
Speaker 3: know we're going on second sound. So there's so many

1267
00:53:51,216 --> 00:53:53,576
Speaker 3: components and so many different factors going on in your

1268
00:53:53,616 --> 00:53:55,096
Speaker 3: head that you don't have time to think about all

1269
00:53:55,096 --> 00:53:57,896
Speaker 3: the other different discussion. Now, the only time i'd listen

1270
00:53:57,976 --> 00:54:00,056
Speaker 3: to what the defense is saying is they would make

1271
00:54:00,136 --> 00:54:02,216
Speaker 3: subtle adjustments when you'd come to a bunch or a

1272
00:54:02,256 --> 00:54:05,616
Speaker 3: stack and you could see them communicate, or some times

1273
00:54:05,616 --> 00:54:07,856
Speaker 3: they'd say nail, nail nail, which to me was a

1274
00:54:07,896 --> 00:54:09,896
Speaker 3: box coverage. It went to a cover for this guy

1275
00:54:09,896 --> 00:54:13,016
Speaker 3: at first of the flat. That was information that I

1276
00:54:13,056 --> 00:54:15,256
Speaker 3: wanted to gather because it would help me get through

1277
00:54:15,296 --> 00:54:17,216
Speaker 3: my read right now, and I'd get to the second

1278
00:54:17,336 --> 00:54:19,896
Speaker 3: or third guy in my progression immediately based on the

1279
00:54:19,936 --> 00:54:22,536
Speaker 3: route concept that we'd have called. And so a lot

1280
00:54:22,536 --> 00:54:25,416
Speaker 3: of that doesn't happens in film study. But as you

1281
00:54:25,496 --> 00:54:26,856
Speaker 3: are out on the field, a lot of times you

1282
00:54:26,856 --> 00:54:29,336
Speaker 3: can hear these guys communicating and you'll see we're gonna

1283
00:54:29,336 --> 00:54:30,976
Speaker 3: in and out this, we're gonna stack it, we're gonna

1284
00:54:31,016 --> 00:54:32,816
Speaker 3: play one on one off, whatever it might be, and

1285
00:54:32,816 --> 00:54:35,016
Speaker 3: you see them start to communicate. That's the only thing

1286
00:54:35,056 --> 00:54:37,896
Speaker 3: that I was paying attention to. Could you hear when

1287
00:54:37,896 --> 00:54:42,896
Speaker 3: you were about to get sacked? You could feel it

1288
00:54:42,936 --> 00:54:44,816
Speaker 3: more than you'd hear it, and then it would happen

1289
00:54:44,856 --> 00:54:46,216
Speaker 3: pretty abruptly.

1290
00:54:45,856 --> 00:54:50,776
Speaker 7: Feeling like peripheral, Like occasionally you'd feel the peripheral, like

1291
00:54:51,016 --> 00:54:53,296
Speaker 7: where they're coming from behind, and you just kind of

1292
00:54:53,336 --> 00:54:55,776
Speaker 7: start to feel something and then you pull that ball down.

1293
00:54:55,856 --> 00:54:57,936
Speaker 6: It just was it was reactionary.

1294
00:54:57,976 --> 00:55:00,016
Speaker 3: It wasn't anything more than like, oh gosh, I feel

1295
00:55:00,016 --> 00:55:01,216
Speaker 3: something and duck.

1296
00:55:01,016 --> 00:55:01,536
Speaker 2: Out of the way.

1297
00:55:02,136 --> 00:55:06,016
Speaker 3: And then the ones that you actually feel and probably

1298
00:55:06,016 --> 00:55:08,096
Speaker 3: hear a little bit more as there was one time

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Speaker 3: we're playing Green Bay. I was in Dallas and Clay

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Speaker 3: Matthews is lined up at the linebacker position, Like, look,

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Speaker 3: this guy was versatile. He could play at the defensive

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Speaker 3: end position, he could play off But if he's off

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Speaker 3: the ball, our running back is responsible to pick him up.

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Speaker 3: So he comes running from like a six yard head start,

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Speaker 3: and I'm waiting for our running back to step up

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Speaker 3: and take him on because I know that he's blitzing.

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Speaker 3: But if we're supposed to be picked up, and then

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Speaker 3: I just hear him bearing down me. I'm looking to

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Speaker 3: the left and I'm going seems like he's getting closer.

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Speaker 6: It's getting a lot closer.

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I look up and he's

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Speaker 2: in my lap and just decleats me.

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Speaker 6: He takes me off my lands, right on my ribs,

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Speaker 6: knocks with the breath out of me.

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Speaker 3: And I'm looking over. I see my running back out

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Speaker 3: in the flat, and I'm like, bro, what the hell

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Speaker 3: just happened? But he just was a busted protection scheme.

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Speaker 3: But I could hear him, smell him, and feel him

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Speaker 3: all at the same time.

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Speaker 1: You ever smell a cologne on a player sacking you?

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Speaker 5: No, you know?

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Speaker 6: But was funny.

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Speaker 3: Had a guy, Matt Light, who is our offensive tackle,

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Speaker 3: a left left tackle in New England, and he used

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Speaker 3: to always do this thing. He'd get this female cologne

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Speaker 3: and he'd go through before him. Yeah perfect, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: got good, good point, really good point. He'd get perfume

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Speaker 3: and he'd go before, walkthrough and just drench different guys jerseys.

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Speaker 3: And so now all of a sudden we're coming out

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Speaker 3: in Belichick's like, what the hell is that smell?

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Speaker 6: What the eth?

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Speaker 3: And then we'd all get in the huddle like what

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00:56:34,216 --> 00:56:36,176
Speaker 3: the hell, and people are cracking up because they know

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00:56:36,216 --> 00:56:40,096
Speaker 3: that light just drenched this guy's whole jersey in perfume

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Speaker 3: and you got to wear it during the entire practice.

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Speaker 2: It was great. Thank you guys for listening. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: Tim McGraw, He's Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones. We had

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Speaker 2: lots to say. We will see you guys against him. Thanks, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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