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Speaker 1: We'll start doing more as things go on. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna continue our team previews here as the Giants um

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Speaker 1: look ahead to their two thousand eighteen schedule, and the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys for once are not the first team on

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Speaker 1: their schedule. They're the second team on their schedule. Thank goodness.

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Speaker 1: We're tied to going to Dallas the first week of

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Speaker 1: Paul you don't watch very difficult for me, bouncing off

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Speaker 1: the ceilings, bouncing off the walls. And another week off

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Speaker 1: next week, by the way, are actually going on a vacation.

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Speaker 1: But don't remind me. But at least the Yankees. The

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Speaker 1: There big so excited for the next excited for the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: Over the past couple of weeks with the Giants, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Not a whole lot going on with the offseason movement. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see what he is. And by the way

428
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys checked out his neck, there was no problem.

429
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: So this stuff that comes out of the combine, that's

430
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: this or that. They checked him out pretty thoroughly and

431
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: they don't see any problem whatsoever. So combination between those

432
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: three guys, Shawn Lee, vander Esh and Jalen Smith. They

433
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: feel like he got three guys to play two spots.

434
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: Uh feel like at some point vander Ish could back

435
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: up Shawn Lee if they need. If vander should beat

436
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: out Jalen Smith h in the middle, which I don't know,

437
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: if he'll have enough time to do that by the

438
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: season opener, then maybe you know, Jalen Smith takes some

439
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: snaps at the strong side linebacker if vander Esh is

440
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: ready to go. If he's not, I guarantee you he's

441
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: ready to be the nickel middle linebacker, which takes some

442
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: of the pressure off Jalen having to play sixties seventy

443
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: snaps the game. Micky know Paul's questions and were joining

444
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnell cat Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Paul has questions

445
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: about the second there. I'll leave that to him. Um,

446
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: I gott ask you about defensive tackle because the two

447
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: top guys at the depth charge. You got David Irving,

448
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,239
Speaker 1: who is all this off the field stuff going on,

449
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: and now he's suspended for the first four games. Malie

450
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: Collins broke his foot again, and I'm looking at the

451
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: guys behind those two, and I wonder, who is it

452
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: gonna be that's gonna stop the running here on first

453
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: and second down in the middle. Uh, So what's going

454
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: on at defensive tackle. Yeah, we'll start with Malay Collins. Um.

455
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's going to be ready for the

456
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: start of training camp. Uh. They want to make sure

457
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: that that fifth metatarso. Uh. He's broken both of them

458
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: and one of them twice uh in in three years.

459
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: So uh they're hoping, uh, you know he's ready to go.

460
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean I thought the guy was gonna be uh,

461
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, a Pro Bowl caliber tackle last year. Uh,

462
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: And unfortunately for him, he suffered a stress fracture that

463
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: fifth metatarsal and they sally played through it. Uh and

464
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: then uh he ends up breaking it in the offseason

465
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: workouts right early. So we'll see where he is. That

466
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: that one is somewhat concerning. Without David Irving in the middle, Uh,

467
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: they've got a hole to fill. And one guy that

468
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: kind of stood out again and I keep prefacing this

469
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: in mini camp and and O t a s without

470
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: pads on was jahad Ward, who they traded for from

471
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. Uh. Marinelli sees him as a six

472
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: five pound three technique playing inside. He played with the

473
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: first team the whole uh time in the off season

474
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: when when Irving was was missing practices to take care

475
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: of his personal stuff. And he looks good now. Can

476
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: can that translate? Because he certainly didn't have a good

477
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: last season playing three four defensive end in for the

478
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: Raiders defense last year and they were more than willing

479
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: to give up on her. So we'll see. He's awfully motivated,

480
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: he's awfully happy to be here. Uh, they're kind of

481
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: counting on him to come through because if he doesn't,

482
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, that's a thin group in the middle.

483
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's still a somewhat young and developing secondary

484
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: Mickey ten ten ten picks last year is not going

485
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: to get it done. You've got to get more turnovers

486
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: out of those defensive backs. What has been the brightest

487
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 1: spot during the off season amongst the secondary? Oh, I

488
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: think Chitterbo Woozier is ready to go. I think that,

489
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, he would have eventually won that starting job

490
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: last year coming out of training camp if not for

491
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: the hamstring problems that he suffered. Uh So, I think

492
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: he's a guy. I think he's a guy that can

493
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: emerge uh this year. Um, and he's playing with a

494
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: lot of confidence. In towards the end of the year,

495
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: he was starting to be more assertive, more aggressive back there.

496
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I think this guy can play. So I think that's

497
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: kind of the bright spot. And again, you know, this

498
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: is why we're going to training camp. You know, is

499
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: Byron Jones a corner? I don't know, I haven't seen it.

500
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: He looked better playing this style that they're playing at

501
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: corner With Chris ruhs Shard coming in here as the

502
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: defensive backs coach, then I think I've seen him before,

503
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: but he's got to prove that is. Can Jordan Lewis

504
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: help out somewhere? Can Anthony Brown? Uh kind of repeat

505
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: what how he played his rookie year because he kind

506
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: of sloughed off last year and then came on late. Uh.

507
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they've they've got young guys in.

508
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: You know, Xavier Woods. Throw him in there at the

509
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: safety position. Uh. Now, when he played in the nickel

510
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: and dime, he's playing closer to the line of scrimmage.

511
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: I thought he played awfully well. He just didn't take

512
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: that many snaps as a single high free safety. So

513
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: it's again. Uh. You know, the seems like the theme

514
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: for this team going into training camp is we'll see,

515
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: because I don't think there's a lot of certain things

516
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: that a lot of positions, as you can tell by

517
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: my answers the questions about left guard, tight end, wide receiver,

518
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. You know what happens at linebacker? And then

519
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: can Xavier Woods convinced the Cowboys they don't have to

520
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: go out and sign a veteran UH safety to take

521
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: that spot you mentioned Christmas Chard. I just want to

522
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: ask you a question about him. We know rod Man

523
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: are always still the defensive coordinator, but we also know

524
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: that Rods all along in the tooth and you know,

525
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: you don't know how long he's gonna be a coordinator

526
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And Richard has experience as

527
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator coming over from the Seahawks with the

528
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Legion of Boom and all that stuff. Is he having

529
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: a real big impact on how this team plays defense?

530
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: And do you kind of get the sense if it

531
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: works out, that could be a guy they're grooming for

532
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: the next defensive court neither spot when Rod hangs it up. Yeah,

533
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: I think they're exactly right, And and they've not only

534
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: given him the job as uh the secondary coach, but

535
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: also as the past game defensive coordinator basically uh to

536
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: kind of monitor and and organized the Dimond Nickel defenses.

537
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: Now Rod's still calling the defenses, but yeah, they've given

538
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: him the responsibility that Matt Eberflus had before he left

539
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: for the Colts. So uh, and I think he's had

540
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: a huge influence on these young defensive backs. He kind

541
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 1: of talks their talk. Uh, he's got a little bravado

542
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: to him. Uh as I think, uh Steven Jones pointed out,

543
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: he goes, Yeah, he's even when he comes to practice

544
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: in these workouts, he's still wearing his spikes. Steven said,

545
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: I still think he thinks he can play because he's

546
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: got his football shoes on for practice. Uh So if

547
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: you talk to the young dbs they they have there,

548
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: they will follow him off a cliff in a very

549
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: short time. So I think he has had an effect

550
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: on how they're gonna play, uh coverages, how they're going

551
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: to ask their cornerbacks to play man coverage, which is

552
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: a little different than I think what they did last year.

553
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to the d line. Mickey before

554
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: I let you go for my last question. UH. I

555
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: mentioned to Marcus Lawrence earlier, everybody knows football players, when

556
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: they put a big stats, they want to get paid.

557
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: Is there any issues with him in terms of his

558
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: contract and mentally where he's at uh, and in terms

559
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: of how it might affect his play or preparation. And

560
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: then when Randy Gregory, Uh, this is a guy who

561
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: was a big name coming out, He's had all kinds

562
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: of off the field issues. I know at the moment

563
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: he is still suspended. Is there any anticipation as to

564
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: when that may be settled and how it might be settled. No. UM,

565
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I think they look at Randy Gregory as you know,

566
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: if if you get anything out of them, you know,

567
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's basically gravy. But they're not counting on it. Uh.

568
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: If they get it, it's fine. Uh. It's still kind

569
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: of in limbo right now with the league. He applied

570
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: for UH to to be able to return, but that

571
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: can take all the way through August before they come

572
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: up with a decision. So and I think with his

573
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: history and since this has been going on for so long,

574
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: that they're going to be very careful before they make

575
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: a decision, so yeah, you're allowed to return or you

576
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: know what, we're not quite sure just yet, so that

577
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: that would be just a huge bonus, but nothing they're

578
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: counting on. I think with DeMarcus Lawrence, you know, he

579
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: seems to be fine with the with the franchise tag,

580
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: didn't seem to bother him. It hasn't bothered him. He's

581
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: been out here working. Uh, and he signed it right away. Uh,

582
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, and I think in his mind is well,

583
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get paid seventeen million dollars regardless of what

584
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: happens this year. So that's that's a heck of a

585
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: lot more than he made in his first four years

586
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: in the league, right, So, uh, he's good with that.

587
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: And the thing about him, the question has always been, well,

588
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: did you know, did he perform that? Because he was

589
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract. This was like

590
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: the first time that he was totally healthy for for

591
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: an entire season, and really they were real careful when

592
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: he came back from his second back surgery not to

593
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: overextend him in the off season. Basically, he did nothing

594
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: but rehab last offseason and so he came into this

595
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: year healthy. You know, he's had injuries his rookie year.

596
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: He started UH the season having fractured his fifth metatarsul UH.

597
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: He came on the next year, missing most of the

598
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: training camp UH and then played through but hurt his

599
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: back in the offseason, came back and played through hurting

600
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: the same part of his back the same disc UH,

601
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: and played through that the next year. So last year

602
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: it was really his first time he was healthy. So

603
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: I told him about a month ago, I said, you know,

604
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of questioned you can you do this again?

605
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: And his answer was just tell him to watch. And

606
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna tell you, just watch and see what happened. Well,

607
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: it's a good answer. I will say this, Mickey, for

608
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: a guy who's on the franchise tag, and we all

609
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: know it's usually the sack numbers that draw a lot

610
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: of salaries. Um, I guess my question for you is,

611
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: do you think there's any concern You know the guy

612
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: better than any of us do here. Do you get

613
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: the impression that this is a guy who's going to

614
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: go out there and continue to try to be more

615
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: of an all around defensive end. That he had over

616
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: fifty tackles combined last year, which is not a bad

617
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: number for a pass rush. Sure. A lot of times

618
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: you'll see these pass rushers, the Simeon Rice types who

619
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: want fifteen sixteen acts and if they make thirty tackles,

620
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: that's a locked because they're just going after the quarterback

621
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: because they want the money that come with the sacks,

622
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: the adulation that comes with the sacks. Is that any

623
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: concerned with the Marcus lawrence that you know, is he

624
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: going to sell out to try to get sacks because

625
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: he's in a contract situation or or is that not relevant? Yeah,

626
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: I think he's too proud to allow that to happen,

627
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: even if it crossed his mind that I got to

628
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: take care of my body and preserve myself for a

629
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: big pay day. I think he's looking at seventeen millions

630
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: a pretty big pay day. Uh. He seems awfully motivated

631
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: to go back out there, uh and do it all

632
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: over again. And you know, and one of the things

633
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: that they started doing last year, and it's another key

634
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: question going in. You know, they had him on the

635
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: left side. They need some production on the right side.

636
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: And when teams started stacking his side of the line

637
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, they started moving them to the side so

638
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: they need some of these young defensive ends, uh, Taco Charlton,

639
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: maybe Coney eally uh to step up on the other

640
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: side to become a presence to take some pressure or

641
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: at least some offensive pressure off of him, because you know,

642
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: darn well, when they break the huddle, they're not worrying

643
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: about these other guys. They're gonna want to know where

644
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: d laws uh and and well they should right, yeah,

645
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: absolutely fine. Final question for me, Mickey. You look at

646
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: this Cowboys team and you know there are only a

647
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: few years off of being one of the best teams

648
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: in the league at thirteen and three, and you go

649
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: before that, you know they were twelve and four back

650
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: in Tony Romo. But at the same time, boy, this

651
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: team over the past four years has changed an awful lot.

652
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: You're going from the Romo, you know, Witten to Marco, Murray,

653
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: des Bryant, they're all gone. Those that was the core

654
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: of the team and now you're Scott Zeke, DeMarcus Lawrence

655
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: and kind of a whole new group. But they didn't

656
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: really have an awful year in there except for that

657
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: one four in twolve year and Romo got hurt. Where

658
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: you're like this is a rebuilding year. Are we going

659
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: to see growing pains with this being such a young

660
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: team now this year? Or do you think they're gonna

661
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: be able to build on nine and seven and really

662
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: compete to not just win the division but made me

663
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: make a super Bowl run in the NFC. I think

664
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: they can compete to win the division, the super Bowl,

665
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about just yet. And again I think

666
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: that you're exactly right. These are not Tony Romo's Dallas Cowboys.

667
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: This this is a whole new era. Uh. And you're

668
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: relying on a whole lot of young guys. So that

669
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: could be good and bad. Right. You know, you you

670
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: love to keep your team young, but you would also

671
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: like to have a little bit more experience. Now. The

672
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: experience on this team's on the offensive line. Um. And

673
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: so if they keep if they if they become you

674
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: know what they have been with the addition of Connor

675
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: Williams and Lile Collins uh a year having played tackles.

676
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: He what the thing about Lele Collins is, you know

677
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: he hadn't played tackles since he left l s U

678
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: uh when when he got here he was a guard

679
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt and then he was a guard,

680
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: uh and then he moved out the tackle uh and

681
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: it took him a little while to tacclimate. So if

682
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line can do their deal, it gives this

683
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: offense a chance, a chance to be uh productive again.

684
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: But it's it's not the same Cowboys, even though they've

685
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: had this success. And you know, I'm kind of glad

686
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: you pointed that out because you know, everybody picks on

687
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Garrett on what he hasn't done, but they failed to

688
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: realize that. You know, they were pretty good in uh,

689
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: they were pretty good when Romo was there, uh, and

690
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: then he missed. They didn't have a credible backup. They

691
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: had to fall out in pretty good. Despite everything that happened,

692
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: they did go nine and seven. Uh. So that's three

693
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: winning seasons in four years. And it's been a while

694
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: since the Cowboys put together three winning seasons, uh in

695
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: in four years. You have to go back to like

696
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: two thousand five through two thousand nine when they put

697
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: together those string of winning seasons. That Bill kind of

698
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: built the team back up and got them going. So uh,

699
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, I understand the eight and eight, but that

700
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: was the rebuilding. I think they feel like they're at

701
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: a point now where yeah, they're not rebuilding, they're just

702
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: kind of getting younger, and we'll see if these young

703
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: guys can play again while we're going to training camp,

704
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, Mickey and and we appreciate all the time,

705
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, but I just realized this. We did the

706
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: half an hour interview and we kind of glossed over

707
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott with Dak friendly even ask you about the

708
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: damn quarterback, which I think is amazing. Is the franchise

709
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: one hook line in sink Er sold on Prescott as

710
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys quarterback for the next ten years? Or is

711
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: this I don't want to call it a test year

712
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: for him because he's done a lot of its first

713
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: two seasons, But how important is this year for Dak

714
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: to assure him that Gigando quarterback contract extension that makes

715
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: in the next franchise quarterback for the Cowboys. Okay, I'm

716
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: gonna help you out with all the questions that you've

717
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: already listed for us. I don't know that that Prescott

718
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: is under the gun right now. Well that right, you

719
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: could make it, make it, you got they could finish

720
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: six and ten, seven and nine. People are gonna kill

721
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Prescott they've got so many questions at home. See I

722
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: think they might though, make you what do you think?

723
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: All right? I'm hey, this is Dallas and his quarterback.

724
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I know what happened now, I know how the franchise

725
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: feel about him, and Stephen Jones has already been very

726
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: vocal about saying we're prepared to pay him like one

727
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. So they're thinking,

728
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: is he's gonna play to at level um again? And

729
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: I hate to keep repeating myself, but after this first

730
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: starts in the league, he had a one oh two

731
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: point four quarterback rating and then the second half of

732
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: the season last year, things fell apart and he had

733
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: a seventy nine quarterback rating those last eight games. So

734
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: which quarterback is he? And how much effect did all

735
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: the stuff that went on the second half of the

736
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: season affect his play Because the first half of the season,

737
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: again they were scoring twenty eight points a game, and

738
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: then things fell apart the second half, starting with that

739
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: game against Atlanta and they never got it back on track.

740
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: So he was part of that. No one was questioning

741
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott then, so I think they have confidence in him.

742
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: But again, the fickle fan base at. It's kind of

743
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: funny you've brought that up, because, uh, you know, you

744
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: can go back to Don Meredith, right and and and

745
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: he put this team on the map, and then all

746
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden they couldn't win the big One and

747
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: people are all over him, and he said, you know what,

748
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: I had enough of this. Uh, and he retired prematurely

749
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: the manly reason. I brought that out on my way

750
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: back from vacation. We were coming through the kind of

751
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: East Texas and I came through Mount Verdon, where he's from,

752
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: and they've got a museum there. Right, I'm going, all right,

753
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: I've heard all about this museum. I'm going in and

754
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: taking a look. Well it's not open on a Friday.

755
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: He's like, how could he not be open on Friday?

756
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, it reminded me of what Don Meredith went

757
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: through with this fan base here and allowed me back

758
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: to the sixties. The same thing. It's in every city, Mickey.

759
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: They got a two time Super Bowl MVP playing quarterback here,

760
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: and there was still some fans who can't wait to

761
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: get rid of them. Yeah, I'm with you. And I

762
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: always say be careful what you wish for, because it

763
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: might not be as good when that guy is gone. Yeah,

764
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: no doubt, Mickey. Unfortunately this year we have to wait

765
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: until week two to see you, but we look forward

766
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: to it. Uh you think you stand? Yeah? All right? Uh,

767
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: it's it sounds like training can. It's gonna be fun

768
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: for you guys, a lot of competition and we hope

769
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: you have a season where you don't have to report

770
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: on whether or not a guy is gonna get suspended

771
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: for six games every other week. I got a law

772
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: degree last year. I thank you, Vicky, great Mickey, take

773
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: care of you and look forward to talking to you

774
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: once the season started. Talk that's Vicky Spagnola, Tallas Cowboys

775
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: dot com, one of my favorites in the league. He's like,

776
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: he's also a pison, So this is true. Question, you

777
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: know what, It's funny and I want to ask that

778
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: final question because I think a lot of people do

779
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: overlook that. And how kind of I hate to use

780
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: the word overnight, but it kind of happened under the radar.

781
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: How young the Cowboys became so quickly? They were young,

782
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: young team, which, like he said, can be good if

783
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: the young players more sure quickly, or it could be

784
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: bad if they don't know. No, there's no doubt about that.

785
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: And of course, because there are so many high expectations,

786
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, with Elliott coming back, and of course, as

787
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned Prescotta, Look, there were gonna be those people

788
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: who will never be satisfied when you're in Dallas unless

789
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: you're going back to the glory days of when they

790
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: had the T and and and nothing else is ever

791
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: going to be good enough. And and I get that.

792
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: You know, they built a tremendous tradition over a lot

793
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: of years there. Well it hasn't been that way for

794
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: a long time. But at the same time, for those

795
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: who want to trash Jason Garrett, you know he hasn't

796
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: really done a bad job with what he's at the

797
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: work well, last four years twelve and four, four and twelve,

798
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: only because the starting quarterback got hurt thirteen and three

799
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: a year in what's your starting quarterback? I heard, But

800
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: when thirteen games anyway, and then nine and seven, that's

801
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: not a bad four year run. Two or those years

802
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: out of the four years, they made the playoffs and

803
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: they won the division. And then they had of course

804
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: the drop at the end zone and the goal line. Well, yeah,

805
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: you the des Non catch, which was not a catch,

806
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: by the way, and then you had Aaron Rodgers throw

807
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: one of the best playoff passes in the history of

808
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: mankind to the tight end on the sideline. So you know,

809
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: if you're a Jason Garrett guy, you can certainly point

810
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: to a number of things where he's been snake bitten

811
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate and you feel bad for him, especially

812
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: because he's a good guy, real good guy and a

813
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: good football man. And by the way, if you got

814
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: that time, I don't. I don't think you don't. Uh

815
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: do you have Amazon Prime? Well, they did the All

816
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: or Nothing series on the Comboys this year, and Garrett,

817
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I thought came off pretty well in

818
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: the series. Look you here when he was here, right,

819
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: I was not. I miss I miss Garrett When he

820
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: was backing up here with the Giants, everybody knew. I mean, look,

821
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: it's whole family, their football from the jersey from Prista Football,

822
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: the Wazoo and Lifers. Remember his dad, who passed away

823
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: about a year ago. Columbia coach, former Giants assistant coach

824
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: and scout was with the Cowboys for a long time

825
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 1: as a scout. Their Northeast family they are. They are

826
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: football through and through. There's no question about his football intelligence,

827
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: There's no question about him his quality as an individual.

828
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is a really, really terrific guy. And I

829
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: would have told you that some years ago if the

830
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: Giants had been looking for a coach at the time,

831
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: which they hadn't been, he would have been a guy

832
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: I would have talked to you. Just took the words

833
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: out of my mouth. If he had gotten let go

834
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: by Dallas last year, trust me, he would have been

835
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: right in the mix for the Giants head to coach position.

836
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I absolutely think he's the type of guy

837
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: and has the level of of things that you want

838
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: and a head coach. Unless an he would have gotten

839
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: the job, but he don't know what would have gotten

840
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: Definitely would have been interviewed, though I would have been

841
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: shocked if he wasn't interviewed. I would have expected him

842
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: to get interested. Put it that exactly. And I and

843
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: you know what, if Dallas gets rid of him, somebody

844
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: else will talk to him next year. I guarantee you that,

845
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: whether or not you know it's someone in the end

846
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: I have seen or someone in the a f C.

847
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: I have no idea somebody is gonna want him on

848
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: their staff if the Cowboys ever get rid of him,

849
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: and I, in my opinion, if they don't make the

850
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: playoffs this year, he's probably in big would be really

851
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: surprised if he was back. He's probably in a huge trouble.

852
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: But that again, that does good coaches get fired all

853
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: the time. Remember, it does happen. And it's funny. You

854
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: don't get the sense his eighth season. He's been there

855
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: a while. And here's the problem. In those eight seasons,

856
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: how many playoff games ever won? Is? It's a problem again,

857
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: I get it. So if you don't like him, you

858
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: certainly have enough of evidence to want to get rid

859
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: of him. So anyway, anyway, look a little time. We

860
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: got time. Yeah, if your folks want to get in,

861
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: guys want to get in, get a couple of balls

862
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: in the Giants play five one three. Um, I know

863
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: you get Giant fans probably. We just talked about the

864
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys for forty five minutes. I don't want to talk

865
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: to you now. Well, we need something to talk about

866
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of the summer that's going on, and

867
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: this is a great any guys, folks, remember the Giants

868
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: gonna be battling with Dallas and Philly for this division,

869
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: so you better get a feel for what they're gonna

870
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: do here. Uh. We have now gone through Washington, Philly,

871
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: and Dallas, all three division rivals in our team previews.

872
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt in my mind from

873
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: listening to all three of the representatives that we were

874
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: able to get onto the program that the Cowboys have

875
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: the most question marks of any of those teams. I

876
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: think Washington does in my opinion. Um, Larry Michael seemed

877
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: a bit more assertive about some of the areas. It

878
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: seemed to me Mickey was listing question after question after question,

879
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: either injury or youth. I'm not saying that I don't

880
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: think that Dallas might not be a better team or

881
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: may have more wins by the end of the season,

882
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: but I think going in DA seems to have more

883
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: question marks. I think, Okay, i't believe it this way.

884
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have the most things answered via

885
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: competition in training camp, fair if not in training camp

886
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: by the first month of the season. Yeah, I mean,

887
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: think about it. The receivers. Who are their top three receivers.

888
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't think we know that for sure. They may

889
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: not know. That's a Lottober starting tight end. That's what

890
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm starting defensive, tapp. There's a lot of things that

891
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: they've got a sword through young secondary. Yeah, you know what,

892
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: that's fair, and that could be a good thing, and

893
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: that could be a bad thing. You know how competition

894
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: brings out the best in some people. Or it could

895
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: be a flaming dumpster fire and Jason Garrett could be

896
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: fired by weeks. Why I'm not prepared to tell you

897
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: that they will or will not finish in last place.

898
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to do that. And that's fair. But

899
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: they've got the most questions, I think. All right, let's

900
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: go to the phones at two one nine, four five

901
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: one three. Um, let's go to David Cranford. He'll lead

902
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: us off. Hi Dave, Hi, Dave. Hey, guys, welcome back.

903
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Thank god you're back. Oh my god, you're happy and

904
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: my wife is even more happy. How about that? Couldn't

905
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: wait to get rid of me? A great, great call

906
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: with with Dallas. I actually felt like it was for Mickey.

907
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: You know, some of the most balanced I've I've heard

908
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: out of him. So we'll just leave it at that.

909
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: But but I thought you guys did a great job.

910
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: I think I think you bring up a great point

911
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: just in terms of where we want to go this

912
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: year and how important you know, obviously the division is,

913
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: and I really would like us to, you know, look

914
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: at a way that we could finish you know, four

915
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: and two or or something in the division. I think

916
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: we I think would be really helped. Well, Dave, here's

917
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: the thing. Remember, I went back and I did the history.

918
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: I think in the last fifteen or almost twenty years,

919
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: there's only been one team that's won this division that

920
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: hasn't gone four and two or better. Once they went

921
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: three and three win the division. I think they want

922
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: to win nine games. So if you want to win

923
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: the division, and I think in order to make the

924
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: play us this year and feel comfortable about it, you

925
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: better win the division. You better go foreign too. Yeah,

926
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: I agree, and and and you know, as both of

927
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: you are are good at saying you know this, This

928
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: this league comes down to matchups. And the thing that

929
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: I think Dallas really is going to find um extremely

930
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: difficult for them is how one dimensional they become. And

931
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: I think on any think about the game plan going

932
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: in against Dallas and if you're better if you're for

933
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: that matter, any defensive coordinator, you know you're gonna you're

934
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: gonna look at at stopping that run and and any

935
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: time you know you're you're gonna sell out for stopping

936
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: that run. And they have questions both at the receiver.

937
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: But you know, Prescott has not shown the ability to

938
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: you know, be able to complete on third and long.

939
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: If you go look at his numbers, you know he

940
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: needs to stay ahead of the chains. And at the

941
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, and you think about

942
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: the new three or four defense, and it's interesting when

943
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: you look at it. The one area that you would

944
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: want to because because that defense is going to spread

945
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: you out wide and be really hard to run to

946
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: the edges, which would be nice because we got killed

947
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: there last year. UM, is to go up the middle

948
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: and and that's where you've got the best run stopper

949
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: in the league. So so I really think the Giants

950
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: can turn them into one dimensional. And as much as

951
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, and you guys touched on it, as as

952
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: much as Jason Witten wasn't the Jason Witten from you know,

953
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: five six seventy years ago. UM, he was a crafty

954
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: little guy that could always find a get open and

955
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: if you look at they're going to have a hard

956
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: time replacing the production of those two receivers. And I

957
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: think that's gonna I think that matchup for us um

958
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: from from that side of the ball boats very very well.

959
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: I think it plays right into our strength. Dave, great,

960
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: thank you very much for the call. Man. I got

961
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: two more guys. I want to get to think a quickly.

962
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: I would only say this what we talk about this

963
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: all the time when you're game planning for a team.

964
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: It's all about what do they force you to respect

965
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball. And right now,

966
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: because of the way Dallas is constructed, you don't have

967
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: to respect their passing game because there were too many questions. Eventually,

968
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: at some point you may have to, but not in

969
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: two Eventually, Dallas, if they want to be successful this year,

970
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: they're going to have to be able to complete a

971
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: pass when the other team knows they're gonna pass, and

972
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: one of their receivers is going to have to be

973
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: able to win one on one. Can they I don't know.

974
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: You have to find out. You've got to be able

975
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: to come back from ten points down on the fourth

976
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: quarter and prove that you can do that against the

977
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 1: team before they actually start to fear that. Not even that, Paul,

978
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: you get the ball back down four with two minutes,

979
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: can you drive down That's that's that's a given anytime. Yeah,

980
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: but you need receivers to do that to win one

981
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: on one. They do not much press man. They're gonna

982
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: see this year, they're gonna see press man up the

983
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: ying Yang because and we'll see how they handle it.

984
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: And they're gonna see it that extra guy in the

985
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: box a lot correct And can their guys win one

986
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: on one outside and can press? And that's really good

987
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: to determine how good they're going to be this year.

988
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see Laurence in Florida, he's

989
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: up next. Hey, Lawrence, how are you? How are you?

990
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I'm glad you guys are back.

991
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: Last week I was so shook up at a call

992
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: of my priest. Let's have laws. You appreciate the but anyway,

993
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, you know, of course, I'm a big

994
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: fam But I just remember the one game back in

995
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: the nineteen the most exciting I think Cowboy Giant game

996
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: ever saw was in the nineteen eighty. I think was

997
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: when Giants beat the Cowboys thirty eight to thirty five Rember,

998
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: and they had that Mike Freedy was catched on and

999
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: remember one a wolf Friday before the game, he had

1000
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: his prediction and he said, if you think that Cowboys

1001
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: the Giants gonna beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you believe

1002
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: in the tooth fairy. And anyway, they went out and

1003
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: they beat them. Larry Hita and uh they have taught

1004
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: that an interception in and all this stuff, but it

1005
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: was it was really an exciting game. You know, it's great. Hey,

1006
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: Lauren's real quick to me fair, next time you talk

1007
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: to your priest, can you inquire about an exorcism for

1008
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: Paul here because he's a little bit too excited for

1009
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: my daste. Well anyway, like like I never missed a

1010
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: Giant game. But even if there's a wedding and my

1011
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: nephew's my nephew was getting married and I saw I

1012
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: got the wedding after the Giant Cowboy game, and my

1013
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: mother goes, don't you want to see uh Greg, we're

1014
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: walking down the aisle. I said, I'd rather see Kiki

1015
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: running down the field. Any God, bless, I just had

1016
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: a call when it was those two with those kind

1017
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: of that's the worst teams, the Cowboys with that Jerry's world,

1018
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: and that Jerry up in the up in the balcony.

1019
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: He sits up there like he's nero. He's upstairs, he's

1020
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: out on the field, he's upstairs. I remember the one

1021
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: time I was down in the Hamptons. I was in

1022
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: the Shad Harvard and the American Hotel, and it was

1023
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: the Monday night after the Giants, remember they retired Phil

1024
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: since his novel and they lost the lost to the Cowboys,

1025
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: and and Jerry Jones is in there trying to do something,

1026
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: talk about a sneaker deal. But anyway, the next day

1027
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: I was in the Market Hotel and saying Harbor at

1028
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: the boy turn around five feet away from Jerry Joels

1029
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: is sitting there and eating dinner with his wife. I

1030
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. I never said anything, but I had

1031
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: to bite my dog. But the worst of all times,

1032
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: when that Jerry Jones is up there jumping around and

1033
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: hugging and kissing at Chris Christie, he was I was embarrassed.

1034
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: Thank you laws. What was the guy that we gotta

1035
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: run bound? All right, I'll talk to you. Thanks for hal.

1036
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That was high comedy. He's just like

1037
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: give be bam bam, bam, bam bam. He afted the

1038
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: entire chamber right there. You know he did call us again.

1039
00:56:52,520 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: It's funny. What's your daughter even consider having? Adding? Absolutely not,

1040
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: would you just Vito that Vito Vito? Any conversation along

1041
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: those lines would absolutely be nipped at the butt. Please,

1042
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: what a Saturday be okay? During football year? Or would

1043
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: you require it to be sometime between February and July

1044
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: or March and July. Let me refly it could be

1045
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: during the spring because I know there won't be any

1046
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: Knicks playoff games March and July. That's exactly final call.

1047
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: The show is our buddy, Jason out Denmark, Jason. What's up? Pal?

1048
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: What's going on? Jason? What's up? Yeah? I'm with Lawrence Man.

1049
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: I was having a separation anxiety myself when the show

1050
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: despaired for a while. It's only a wait fo folks.

1051
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: By the way, we really appreciate your dedication, all jokes aside,

1052
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: but some of us, Paul not included here, needed a

1053
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: little bit of time away and we apologize for that.

1054
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: But we thank you for sticking with us and being

1055
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: back with us in uh in July. Here, all right,

1056
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: I'll be quick then one for giants, one for Giants,

1057
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: one for John so uh or they'll Beckham. You know,

1058
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: I was in the military, Like I told you all before,

1059
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: we thank you, We always appreciate, thank you for your service.

1060
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: So I was thinking, you know, when my guys were

1061
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Speaker 1: having little hang ups here and there, you know, I

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Speaker 1: used to give them responsibility. So I was thinking the

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Speaker 1: other day, what if the Giants made the team, made

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Speaker 1: Beckham a team captain with that responsibility, do well for

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Speaker 1: him as far as you know, not going back, going

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Speaker 1: backwards to the little things that he used to do.

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Speaker 1: And we all know he's a great work ethic guy

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Speaker 1: and good great locker room guys. So withou that responsibility,

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Speaker 1: help him. I've never even thought of that, but that

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Speaker 1: is really and that is not a bad idea, to

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Speaker 1: be perfectly honest with you. I don't know that I

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Speaker 1: would do it well. Its teammates would have to vote him,

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Speaker 1: because I think that I think that's important. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can artificially impose that from above, but I

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Speaker 1: think if this team want to give him that responsibility,

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Speaker 1: and I could see that working. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if coach Shermer would

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Speaker 1: even consider, Like I don't know how he nominates guys.

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Speaker 1: We have not had that conversation. If not, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But but I would tell you this, it's not a

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Speaker 1: it's not an off base idea to have to have

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Speaker 1: him nominated or at least on the team ballot, so

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00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: that the teammates could possibly vote for him if they

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00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: wanted to. I understand what you're saying. Make him the

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Speaker 1: guy who has to set the example for others, and

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00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: by virtue of that, he's got to clean up his act.

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Speaker 1: That's a very interesting that's a very very interesting situation,

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Speaker 1: especially if Shermer go ahead. Jason, I'm sorry, I said,

1089
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: believe me. I'm seeing people get d wise and so

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00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: on in the military, and you give them the responsibility

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00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: of handling the junior sailors when they have their little

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: drinking problems and so on, and I've seen guys flourish. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's really so. It's like you take somebody

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00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: that is having an issue, and instead of just knocking

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00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: them for the issue, you put them in that same

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Speaker 1: situation and give them responsibility of helping someone else with

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Speaker 1: that in issue, you know. And I've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of the sailors, a lot of army, you know, flourished

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Speaker 1: because of that. So I was thinking, you know what

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Speaker 1: if the team would kind of think of him as

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Speaker 1: I personally think, it would help him also to good

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Speaker 1: food for thought. Thank you, Jason, Thank you appreciate really quick, John,

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: really quick. John. So you're a little girl who was

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Speaker 1: having a birthday soon? Yes, she she's actually today's July nine,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, she just turned eleven months two days ago,

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Speaker 1: so she'll be one on August seven. Yeah, I figured

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Speaker 1: that because we had babies around the same time. I

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01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: never told you that, but I had my My son

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Speaker 1: will be one also on the twenty four July. Congratulations enjoy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, and I can tell you I don't know

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01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: what they're feeding him over here in Denmark, but he's

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Speaker 1: one and he actually looks like he's going maybe two.

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01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: He might be another Eric Flowers as far as size go.

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Speaker 1: Walking yet, Jason, is he walking yet? Oh? He's trying

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Speaker 1: to damn this me. He's skipping the crawling and going

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01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: trying damn this to walk. I know, I'd say what,

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: it goes fast. She started crawling about a month ago

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Speaker 1: and it went from like one crawl to across the

1119
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Speaker 1: house in a second. And now she's, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of picking herself up and moving from think the thing.

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Speaker 1: The walking is not there yet, but I know when

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01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: it comes, it's gonna come fast. And then things get

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Speaker 1: really dangerous, really fast. I got a little parenting tipped

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Speaker 1: for you, Okay, teach, teach long snapping as early as

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Speaker 1: you possibly can. He has a full row of teeth,

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Speaker 1: like he has a box's mouth, guarden, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you don't even one yet, you know. Yeah. Anyway, I

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Speaker 1: got like, yeah, you know, I still listen from all

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Speaker 1: the way over here, and you know, love the show,

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Speaker 1: of course, and I'll see you all again tomorrow. Thank you,

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01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: see you, but hey you all again tomorrow. Thank you. Jason,

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Speaker 1: always appreciate your Yeah. Clara's guy, I think she's got

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Speaker 1: two on the bottom. I think four or five teeth

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Speaker 1: on top. Now it's coming quick, and uh, it would

1135
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Speaker 1: be even faster as dealers go by. Trust me, I

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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about weddings anytime soon, thankfully. No no,

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Speaker 1: that is true. I hope I don't either. Um tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: the UH New Orleans Saints and Houston Texans will be

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Speaker 1: part of our opponent's preview, and I just want to

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Speaker 1: make sure I got that in because I'm in with

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Speaker 1: Lance and UH we're just glad to be back and

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Speaker 1: we'll see to borrow gis dot com for pull the

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: Titop Josh Bell thanks to Bicky Spagola. It's an inside joke.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we'll see you tomorrow. Be good, everybody,