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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebine, a space where no

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Speaker 1: question is off limits and storylines become lifelines. The views

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Speaker 1: shared by our guests are meant to inform, entertain, and empower.

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Speaker 1: From the laughs to the lessons. Just remember tough times

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Speaker 1: don't last, but professional homegirls do enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Plus up, y'all is shagara Ebine here and I hope

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Speaker 2: all is cute. Now we are back with part two

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Speaker 2: with David Joyner, the man behind Barney.

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Speaker 3: Y'all is so good. But first let's do a little housekeeping.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Hannah Lee twelve for leaving a five

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Speaker 2: star review on Apple Podcast. She said, Ebene and she

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Speaker 2: spelled my name right.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to you, Hannah. I wish you all the success.

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Speaker 2: I've been looking for a new podcast for so long,

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Speaker 2: and the topics you cover and the questions you ask

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Speaker 2: are always interesting. Thank you so much, Hannah for leaving

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Speaker 2: that five star review. Next up, another big shout out

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Speaker 2: to Kiki Do You Love Me? Who also left a

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Speaker 2: You have interesting episodes, so thank you so much. Kiki

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Speaker 2: Volume three of the Professional Homegirl Coloring Book is officially

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Speaker 2: Homegirl and on TikTok at Pretty Private Podcasts, as well

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Speaker 2: as on Instagram. Okay Now and part two of my

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Speaker 2: conversation with David Joyner, we dive into the reactions people

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Speaker 2: had to his tantra business that outrage just rumors he

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Speaker 2: you all so much for the incredible feedback on part one.

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Speaker 2: I know when David Voss hears your story, I know

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Speaker 6: Like what you see is what you get exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: Until when what's the tea?

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Speaker 6: Car so bad, don't tell me, Bob.

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Speaker 5: you remember Barney. You know Barney. He's like, I got

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Speaker 5: Barney the Dinosaur in my office and he's looking for

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Speaker 5: So he's like, yeah, we're on speaker for him. He said,

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Speaker 5: No, he didn't understand. He didn't understand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to respect you. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Just be somebody trying to get a paycheck. Right. I

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Speaker 5: heat of the day I'm at the track to get

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00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 5: my body used to heat. I would sleep under thick,

441
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 5: thick blankets. Now have a leather comforter that I sleep

442
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 5: under to make sure my body is adjusted to heat.

443
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 5: Heat is my friend, mind over matter. When I get in.

444
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 6: Costume, I say forty degrees, forty degrees.

445
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 5: I don't care how hot it is if I'm out

446
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,959
Speaker 5: inside air conditioning, what doesn't matter forty degrees. And so

447
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 5: I started training guys to think that same way. And

448
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 5: then also I would say, okay, now let's breathe, let's

449
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 5: pull the energy from the earth, pull that energy up.

450
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 5: And if somebody did some kind of something or snide

451
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 5: remark or whatever, I'm like, all right, thank you for coming.

452
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 5: Because I had Barney's Barney's live performances in other cities

453
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 5: and other countries. And then also they had different productions.

454
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 5: One in Israel had a different production and Singapore. Yeah,

455
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 5: so I trained those birniees.

456
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: Wow, what are some of the most outrageous rumors you heard?

457
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Because I used to hear when I was a kid.

458
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: I remember them saying that Barney was a pedophile. I

459
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: was shocked when they say Barney was a drug dealer.

460
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 2: And then you even share in a documentary how your

461
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: mom called you crying hysterical because she said it's somebody

462
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: said that she was dead.

463
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, Bardie had committed suicide.

464
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

465
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: But yeah, even to this day, sometimes people say, oh,

466
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 5: didn't you go to jail?

467
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 6: I said, for what? Didn't you like molest one of

468
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 6: the kids.

469
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, where did the ever wanna come from?

470
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 5: No, that was Elmo, that wasn't Sorry, that's not David.

471
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 6: Right.

472
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 5: But you know, like they talk about in the documentary,

473
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 5: sometimes people they would form these stories, you know, these

474
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 5: urban legend stories, and then they just pick up. Yeah,

475
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 5: and I invited people to my house. It's like, oh, no,

476
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 5: we're gonna hate.

477
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but where do you think all that negativity came from?

478
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: Because I didn't know people hated Barney that much.

479
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, some people just well, here's the other thing. Barney

480
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 5: was targeted for two year olds. The two year old,

481
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 5: it's gonna want to see the show over and over

482
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 5: and over and over and over again.

483
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

484
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 5: Now I got to hear this music, hear the song.

485
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: But that's what kids do.

486
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, And granted, you know you're you want you want

487
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 5: your child to listen to this going oh wow.

488
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, they love it, they love it.

489
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 5: But then after a while, you know, you made these

490
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: oh gosh, no, not Barney again. You go to the store,

491
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 5: there's all this merchandise. Child wants the merchandise. So now

492
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 5: you're spending all this money on Barney too. So blame

493
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 5: people for not feeling the love that we had for Barney.

494
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 5: Because we knew we were making a beautiful product. Looking

495
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 5: at it sometimes from a consumer point of view, where

496
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 5: they're buying this merchandise, they're having to listen to the

497
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 5: songs and the video, watch the videos over and over

498
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 5: with their kids.

499
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 6: So you kind of developed this this annoying.

500
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 5: Kind of ah yeah, but for them to like really

501
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 5: come up with some dark seated stuff like the documentary,

502
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 5: you know, the Ji Hid of Barney or the I

503
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 5: Hate Barney fan clubs, and that's how a lot of

504
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 5: these rumors got started, you know. And then when the

505
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 5: Klan found out the guy in's side was black and

506
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 5: their kids were watching the show, and so you know

507
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 5: that's the other thing. You know, you got to deal

508
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: with not only the purple Dinosaur, but the black man

509
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 5: inside the purple Dinosaur. You know, I had to deal

510
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 5: with that. You know, the company had to take a

511
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 5: tolerance class. Wow.

512
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 6: Wow.

513
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: That was threatening to fire me because of all this

514
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 5: stuff that was going on. And I was like, no, no, no,

515
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 5: they're not liking me because of something else. And I

516
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 5: hired this h this labor attorney who was a member

517
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 5: of my church at the time, and even that was

518
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 5: like divine, I'm pull up in the parking lot after

519
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 5: this meeting, and his brother's like, brother, Jordan, how's it going.

520
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: I said, ah. He's like, man, you're not too happy South,

521
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: what's going on? And I told him. He's like, well,

522
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 5: you know, I'm a labor attorney, right I was. And

523
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 5: so he like, hey, next time you hear anything racist

524
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 5: or whatever, write it down. Write it down. Yeah. He

525
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 5: had all these notes so that when he talked to

526
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 5: the attorney, he's like bam bam bam bam bam.

527
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

528
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 6: Wow.

529
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 5: And so then everybody had to take a tolerance class.

530
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 5: And then one of the security guards he and I

531
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 5: were good friends, but he used to call me boy

532
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: all the time, and it was now he's like, hey, boy,

533
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: how's it going. I said he was, And I said,

534
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 5: I said, Jim, you got to stop calling me boy.

535
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 6: Man.

536
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 5: I said, my own dad doesn't call me boy. Oh,

537
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 5: I can call you what you want you what I

538
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: want you boy. So when he had to take tolerance class,

539
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: he refused, He's like, I'm not taking on tolerance class.

540
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 5: I can do whatever I want. So he got fired.

541
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: Wow hut to.

542
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 5: Gout to He passes away. Years later, his wife reached

543
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: out to me and she asked me if I would

544
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 5: speak at his funeral because she says, you know, he

545
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: was stubborn. He was from the old school, the old archie,

546
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: you know that Texas born. Yeah, you know less than

547
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 5: he said. But he loved you. And once he got fired,

548
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 5: he knew he had messed up. But he couldn't, you know,

549
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: come to grips to say, you know, I'm sorry or whatever. Yeah,

550
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 5: he says, you know, would you mind coming to the

551
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 5: funeral and saying a few words. M hm, absolutely.

552
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: Wow, We're almost finished. But what was your relationship like

553
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: with Cheryl Leech?

554
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 5: Oh, Cheryl was the most sweetest, beautiful woman that you

555
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 5: could meet. Yeah, so much integrity, so much love. You

556
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 5: you really knew that you were connect with somebody who

557
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: I mean she coming up with the idea, right, and

558
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 5: it wasn't something that she just did. Of course. The

559
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 5: story was she wanted to help her son Patrick find

560
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: something that he could could capture his attention at a

561
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 5: young age.

562
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 6: But Cheryl love Barney.

563
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: She loved Barney, and Cheryl saw a lot of things

564
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 5: changing and I think that's when she decided to leave

565
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 5: and step down. And she's like, this is you guys,

566
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 5: aren't treating my baby like it's my baby anymore, this

567
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 5: corporate conglomerate kind of thing. And it's like, this isn't

568
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 5: what I wanted to do. But working with her, connecting

569
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 5: with her, she was a beautiful soul. L is a

570
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: light worker. Her energy is so loving to me. Yeah,

571
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 5: just beautiful, beautiful. I remember one time we were in Australia

572
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: and our rooms were connected.

573
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 6: We're not connected, but next to each other.

574
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: Connected And all right.

575
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: Now, Barney, thatssing with the creator.

576
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: All right. And a lot of times, Cherl, you need

577
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 5: a time. A lot of times I would wake up

578
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 5: listening to gospel music or listening to something that you know,

579
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 5: stimulates my spirit. And I remember we're going down and

580
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 5: we're doing some uh some content whatever, and she comes

581
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 5: up to me.

582
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: She's like, you know, when I got off this morning.

583
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 5: I get hear like all this gospel music, and she said,

584
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: and I just found myself just dancing as I'm getting ready.

585
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 6: She's like, thank you, David, thank you.

586
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 5: I said, you welcome, Cheryl, you welcome.

587
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: You know I'm not gonna lie.

588
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: I really grew a soft spot for Cheryl because when

589
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: I heard about her husband comitted suicide because he had

590
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: the press.

591
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: He was depressed. And then her son Patrick, he went

592
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: to jail for shooting his neighbor. I was like, my god,

593
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: Sharon gave everybody, one of everybody something that we can like.

594
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: Bernie was a part of my childhood imprint, so to

595
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: imagine what she went through.

596
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: I felt so bad for her. I felt so bad

597
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: for her.

598
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even before that, she had to deal with

599
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 5: family issues from the in laws.

600
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: M I didn't even think about that.

601
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 5: A lot of people don't know the story of Barney

602
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: and Wishbone, and and how her her husband's sister's husband.

603
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 6: So I guess that's.

604
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 5: I'm not if it's the sister, then it's the sister

605
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: in law. Right, she's married, Is that still a husband

606
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 5: in law?

607
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

608
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 5: Her father in law? Yeah, yeah, Well they always had

609
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 5: like a disdain for each other. Right, Dick Leech, you

610
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 5: know the dad who loaned the money to get the

611
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 5: project going. After Barney's making all this money, now he

612
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 5: wants to use this money for the son to fund Wishbone.

613
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: Barney's money. So Cheryl was like, no, you can't use

614
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: my money. I came up with ye. Right, he would

615
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 5: come up with all these different projects and none of them,

616
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 5: none of them work. None of them work, And so

617
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 5: they kind of had a falling out. And then when they.

618
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: Because it worked for me, doesn't mean it's gonna work

619
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: for you.

620
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. And then when they sold the company to Hit Entertainment,

621
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 5: then he got a large sum of the money also,

622
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: and so she had to deal with all that with

623
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: the infrastructure of the family too.

624
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, you think we deserved her looking back up

625
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: all the things you know about Barney and being a

626
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: part of her, I mean, being a part of the universe.

627
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: You think we deserve Barney and what Cheryl gave her,

628
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: our childhood deserve yea.

629
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah Cheryl. And if you really look at it

630
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: in a very loving way, Cheryl gave us a monument.

631
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, God bless old man.

632
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 6: And as a strong black man who.

633
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 5: Values love and to be able to walk in love,

634
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: be able to travel the world shouting love.

635
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

636
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 6: I remember I was.

637
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: I was telling this close friend of mine, I said,

638
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 5: I just love to love, and sometimes people don't understand that.

639
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: And even when they look at me a certain way

640
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 5: and it's like, nah, you don't get it, bro, I love.

641
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 5: And if you don't understand that, then I got to

642
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: love you from a distance. Even with family members sometimes

643
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 5: they don't understand. And it's like, you know what, I

644
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 5: operate in peace. I walk in peace, I walk in love.

645
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 5: I walk in joy. I breathe smells speak love, love, love,

646
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 5: and I refuse to allow anybody to try to put

647
00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 5: a cloud on that.

648
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, Cheryl help me. Cheryl helped me live a life

649
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 6: of love. Yeah, so you have some monument.

650
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, God bless your al man.

651
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: Oh and last, but not least, if Barney had a

652
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: message for today's world, what do you think He'll say.

653
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 5: Love that self, Love that self. And when you love yourself,

654
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 5: you walk outside loving others. Put the mirror in front

655
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 5: of the front door, look in the mirror and say

656
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 5: I love you.

657
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, walk outside.

658
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: You're walking outside with self love. You're not walking outside

659
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 5: with self hate. So you're not trying to hate. You're

660
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Speaker 5: trying to love, trying to shine. And then, you know,

661
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 5: I tell people all the time, I came up with

662
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 5: a sacronym I want to smell great. I want to

663
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Speaker 5: smell great. I want to shine my eternal love light

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Speaker 5: s M E L L smell shine my eternal love life.

665
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Speaker 2: This has been such an honor to speak with you,

666
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: like hands down, like I am like super excited we

667
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Speaker 2: were able to do this and y'all.

668
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Speaker 3: He also said I had great energy, so.

669
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a light worker.

670
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Speaker 4: I am thank you.

671
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Speaker 3: So what's next for you?

672
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Speaker 2: Tell everyone where we can follow you, where we can

673
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: support you when this book is coming out. If somebody

674
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Speaker 2: wants some massage, just.

675
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Speaker 5: Well, my social media is d Joiner twenty two. You know, Instagram, Facebook,

676
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 5: you know, hit me up. I get a lot of messages,

677
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 5: you know, I have a huge or Barney has a

678
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 5: huge autistic following, and I get a lot of messages

679
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: from the autistic community, and of course some of them

680
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 5: are like friends, and it's great to hear these messages.

681
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 5: And you know, sometimes you have to like okay, hold down,

682
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 5: slow down, slow down. But I love the fans and

683
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 5: I love being able to communicate with them. I wear

684
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Speaker 5: my Barney stuff. I started doing that after the documentary

685
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 5: came out. I started wearing Barney stuff again, just being.

686
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Speaker 3: Able to know you have so much Barney Perry, Oh

687
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Speaker 3: my god.

688
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 5: And then you know, you know, now it's like, hey,

689
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: when you're a kid, you watch Barney growing up, you know,

690
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 5: that was me inside the costume, and then just the

691
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 5: reactions from that and taking photographs, and that is a

692
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 5: beautiful thing. I'm now working on another show that I

693
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Speaker 5: really can't tell people about yet. I'm one of the

694
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Speaker 5: co producers Doggyland, the new show Snoop Okay, yeah, yeah yeah,

695
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 5: and uh the show itself. It's a three D animated show.

696
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 5: And when we do live appearances, you know, there's a costume.

697
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 5: I'm not inside one of the costumes. I can't say

698
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 5: that anyway. Yeah, we just did a tour with kids.

699
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Speaker 4: Bob oh cool cool.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. And so yeah and hip hop Harry still doing

701
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Speaker 6: hip hop Harry.

702
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: Come now you you you book bless and busy, That's

703
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about.

704
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm walking in love. Yeah, I think I'm

705
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 5: on television a lot, doing my thing. Just had another

706
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: just had a major audition that I turned in yesterday,

707
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 5: So we'll see how that that goes. But yeah, you

708
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: can find me riding around California on my Canem spider or.

709
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 6: Am my convertible.

710
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: Okay, enjoying life.

711
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 6: I tell people I work hard so I can play harder.

712
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: Same, same, same, same, you know. One more question because

713
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: I just thought about it. How do you protect your energy?

714
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 5: Oh, there's something that I call the protectives force spieled

715
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 5: an effective sphere. So what you do is you pretend

716
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 5: like you're inside a dome and you pretend that you

717
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: are able to see outside the dome.

718
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 6: But others can't penetrate.

719
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Speaker 5: That that don't fight them to penetrate that dome. Sometimes

720
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 5: we have to learn life lessons. So the spirit will

721
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 5: let you invite people into your space that you're going

722
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 5: to learn a lesson from, and.

723
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Speaker 6: That lesson be a beautiful lesson.

724
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Speaker 5: It may be a dark, ugly, dirty lesson, but you're

725
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 5: going to learn something from it to grow. And I

726
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 5: look at life also as we're stepping and like we

727
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: go to school, we have to study, we take the tests.

728
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 5: We don't always pass the tests, but we have may

729
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 5: take the test again, or we may have to study

730
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 5: harder knowing that we got another exam coming up. So

731
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 5: sometimes things happen to us in life where it's gonna

732
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 5: test us to see if we studied, if we've studied self,

733
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: if we allow the universe to flow with us, if

734
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Speaker 5: we allow the energy to flow with us. So my

735
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Speaker 5: thing is always staying in constant meditation. I hear people

736
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 5: all the time saying, you know, I find it hard

737
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: to like shut down my brain, to isolate myself, to

738
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: quiet my thoughts. And I tell them, I said, a

739
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 5: lot of times, we've been programmed to meditate wrong. How

740
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 5: you meditate, that's not how the world works. The world

741
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: is constantly revolving and evolving, right. We are constantly growing,

742
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 5: learning and understanding. So if we grow, learn and understand

743
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 5: with everything that's happening around us, then we're in constant

744
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 5: meditation of everything around us. So it's not about quieting,

745
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 5: it's about connecting, so that you connect your thoughts with

746
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 5: if you're trying to if you're going through something, you're

747
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 5: trying to figure it out, don't quiet yourself. Do something

748
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: that's going to allow you to focus on what you're doing,

749
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: so then you're starting to receive messages about what you

750
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 5: need to do. On that other situation, when you're driving

751
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: down the freeway and there's traffic and you're sitting in traffic,

752
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: don't get frustrated about the traffic. Take that time to relax.

753
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 5: You may be able to have a chance to look around.

754
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Speaker 5: You may see something that's going to be a sign

755
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: you may see a license or something on somebody's vehicle,

756
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 5: a bumper stick or whatever. That's a message that you

757
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 5: need to receive when you're in a relationship. Sometimes that

758
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 5: relationship is not working and a lot of times we

759
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 5: want to do this, but sometimes we got to do this. Yeah,

760
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 5: you have to understand that my energy is attracting this.

761
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 5: What am I not putting out right? That I'm attracting wrong?

762
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 5: So that also is something that you can look at.

763
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 5: So in protecting yourself, you're allowing yourself to be vulnerable,

764
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: you're allowing your life to shine, and you're allowing yourself

765
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Speaker 5: to understand that, hey, this is worth a lot, and

766
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 5: I will not let anyone, not even myself, lesser value

767
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 5: on it. Because when you honor your spirit, you're honoring

768
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Speaker 5: your peace of mind. When you're honoring your peace of mind,

769
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 5: you're honoring your physical flesh, spirit, mind, and body. So

770
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 5: you're now protecting everything by staying connected to everything.

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Speaker 6: The creation of life.

772
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 5: Is always moving, always revolving, always developing, and you want

773
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 5: yourself to always move develop within it. When you step aside,

774
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 5: isolate yourself, you meditate, you're in this quiet space. You

775
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 5: come out of that quiet space, the world has been moving.

776
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 5: Now you got to catch up. Yeah, I force yourself

777
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 5: to catch up when you can move with it. When

778
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 5: you hear them say the athlete was in the zone.

779
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant, he was in the zone. Michael Jordan, he

780
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 5: was in the zone. That's meditation. When you meditate, you're

781
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 5: in that zone and things slow down for you, and

782
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 5: then you find things within that and you find these

783
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 5: little nuggets and these little nuances. That's then't going to

784
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 5: carry you in life. And that's what I love about

785
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 5: my contra business because I work with women who some

786
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: of them have been taking advantage of sexually, and some

787
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 5: of them have spiritual gifts. And those of us who

788
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: have spiritual gifts, our sexual energy is more active because

789
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 5: we've been given that gift of creation and we tapped

790
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 5: into that gift. When I can help someone ground that

791
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 5: energy and elevate their energy and find more value and

792
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: more purpose in their walk and their understanding of life, I'm.

793
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Speaker 3: Like, not mis stay, okay, not mistay. David Joiner, everyone,

794
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: thank you so much. I really appreciate this. I really

795
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: really really do appreciate that.

796
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 2: I can't wait for everyone to hear this, so thank

797
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 2: you so much for joining me on the show today.

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Speaker 5: My plum please and pleasure sugar.

799
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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.

800
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Speaker 5: For inviting me.

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Speaker 6: You know yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you.

802
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: Thank you to the listeners. If you have any comments,

803
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: I cant even get it out because I'm so happy.

804
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: If you have any comments, questions, so concerns, please make

805
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 2: sure to email me at hello at the PHG podcast

806
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: dot com. And until next time, everyone, Oh, we gotta

807
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Speaker 2: do the song, David.

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Speaker 6: I was just gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: You ready, I'm ready.

810
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: I love me, you love me.

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Speaker 2: Happy be family with that great hug and a kiss

812
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: from me to you.

813
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 4: I want you say you love me to Okay.

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Speaker 5: You know before before you go, I played that song

815
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Speaker 5: in my dad's funeral, and I also played hip hop

816
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 5: Parry's Go Go Go at my funeral because I do comedy.

817
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: Of funerals, right, and I have a lot of lives.

818
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 5: There for my dad.

819
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 6: I did this game show because my dad, and this

820
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Speaker 6: is be quick.

821
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Speaker 5: My dad taught us how to love unconditionally right, and

822
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 5: he loved my mom. My mom passed, then he started

823
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 5: dating again. He started calling me for dating advice, and

824
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 5: so they got married, and then she passed. And then

825
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 5: at seventy nine he got married again, and and so

826
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: then after six years he passed, right, And so I

827
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 5: did this whole game show, and I called it love Unconditionally.

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Speaker 5: You were taught. And you know, before you came to earth,

829
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Speaker 5: God gave me an envelope. Now you, before you can

830
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 5: transition back home, you have to open that envelope. That

831
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 5: envelope contains a number. That number determined how many chances

832
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 5: you have in this lifetime, the love unconditionally during this

833
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 5: in front of people at the funeral, right, So now

834
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Speaker 5: I'm doing all these different voices. So at the very end,

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Speaker 5: I said, Okay, now, Church, you've heard all three rounds.

836
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 5: You've heard all three relationships. If you believe in your

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Speaker 5: heart of hearts, that Roscoe Joiner loved unconditionally, shout amen.

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Speaker 6: So everybody's like, ah, tell him what he's won, Johnny,

839
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Speaker 6: Roscoe Joiner, you just won an all expense paid trip

840
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Speaker 6: to the heavenly realms. You can now sit beside those

841
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 6: who have gone on before you.

842
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know this guy with your smile. But more importantly,

843
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: you've taught us.

844
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Speaker 6: What it means to love unconditionally. Roscoe Joiner, are you

845
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 6: ready to go home. Yes, I am so. I hit

846
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Speaker 6: the music. Go go, go, go go go.

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Speaker 4: Who's neck right?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm like, my name is David Joyner. Thank you

849
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 5: for playing with me. Heaven's favorite love match game. Let's

850
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 5: all say it together. Love unconditionally, and remember to always smile.

851
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 5: If you find us smiling and you don't know why,

852
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 5: ask yourself this question. I hit the music.

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00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 6: The reason we're smiling, Barnie is because of you. We've

854
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 6: had such an amazing day. Oh. I've had an amazing

855
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 6: day too with the people I love, love you, you

856
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 6: love me, and that the whole church is.

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Speaker 5: The guy on the organ is.

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Speaker 3: Like he putting the right put the little sauce on it.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's amazing. Thank you so much.

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00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 5: That song means so much to me. Oh yeah, I'm

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00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 5: riding around l A and Mike can m has a

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00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 5: loud speaker system and I'll have the I Love You

863
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 5: song on repeat. I'm like in Hollywood, people are walking,

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00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 5: you know, you have a lot of tourists and they're

865
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 5: looking and then some of them are like, you know,

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00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 5: and they're taking pictures and I'm like, yeah, the love,

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Speaker 5: spreading the love.

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Speaker 3: Oh man.

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Speaker 4: When I come to La I'm gonna come.

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Speaker 3: And visit you, all right, all right, so you heard it?

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Speaker 3: Until next time, everyone.

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Speaker 5: By all right.

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Speaker 4: Now, mistay.

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Speaker 2: Pretty Private is a production of the Black Effect podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Don't forget

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Speaker 2: to subscribe and rate the show, and you can connect

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Speaker 2: with me on social media at Pretty Private Podcasts.