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Speaker 1: right now. Everybody appreciate you rolling with us. We set

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Speaker 1: we see going on. That's what we see happening. So

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Speaker 1: we'll return to those stories in a second. But this

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Speaker 1: just hit me. I mean, Clay sent me this and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe honestly at the time that this is

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Speaker 1: where things had had gone. This is the reality that

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Speaker 1: we all, we all face. But they must not have

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Speaker 1: been paying very close attention over at them. Whoever owns

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who owns Miller Life. I, as

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Speaker 1: I have siliac disease, so I cannot drinking beer for

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Speaker 3: I just gonna say, what about sorghum Ale?

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Speaker 1: I always want to say that people, Clay, does that

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Speaker 3: Sorghum I just want to say that might have been

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Speaker 3: the most Brian Stelter like audio drop of your career.

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Speaker 3: I don't really drink beer, and I don't know anything

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Speaker 3: about sports. And then everybody out there is like Stelter's

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Speaker 1: Sexted is on the team. He is right there with me.

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Speaker 3: Soon you, you and Stelter are gonna be having like

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be great, you know, with the little you're

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Speaker 1: the women's march. All right, let's get back to making

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Speaker 1: fun of Coors Lighter, Miller Light or whoever, sir. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, excuse me. So here we had Miller Light

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Speaker 1: know what, it's a good time for us to release

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Speaker 1: an ad where we also try to move the feminist

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Speaker 3: Play some of this audio.

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Speaker 4: Guys, here's a little known fact. Women were among the

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Speaker 4: very first to brew beer ever, from Mesopotamia to the

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Speaker 4: Middle Ages to colonial America. It's time beer made it

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Speaker 4: up to women. So today miller Light is on a

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Speaker 4: mission to clean up not just there's the whole beer.

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Speaker 4: Miller Light has been scarying the internet for all this

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Speaker 4: into goods for women brewers. But there's definitely washed out there,

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Speaker 1: So here's to women, because without us there would be

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Speaker 1: no beer. Yeah, there also would be no humanity or existence.

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Speaker 1: We all get that we're all very pro women here.

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Speaker 1: This is this is utterly bizarre. And also this this

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Speaker 1: know what the most consistent privilege across all cultures, across

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Speaker 1: You know what the real privilege is, Clay good looking people.

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Speaker 3: Now, Clay is shaking his head.

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Speaker 1: Telling you, pretty people, privilege as it is known, that

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Speaker 3: So for people out there who haven't seen this video,

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Speaker 3: Tutor Dixon clip that we played on Thursday. I own

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Speaker 2: Marketing's perspective, I think it's very clear that those were

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Speaker 1: True, I mean the you know the association. Also, this

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Speaker 7: Hey, thank you very much for taking my call. You

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Speaker 7: Listen to that picture they're painting of the blue collar worker.

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Speaker 3: Look the fear that they're trying to put it, thank

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Speaker 1: Being called white supremacists. Right, that's the new insult, now

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Speaker 1: It was Neo non's American history, American history x Exactly

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Speaker 1: So on Friday talk to you. Clay was out. So

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Speaker 3: You know, Buck, when this story happened, it immediately reminded

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Speaker 1: profession is perfect. That said, when you see these stops

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Speaker 1: play what you often have for people who just say

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting out of the car. This is becoming

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Speaker 1: more and more common. They'll say you're under arrest, and

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Speaker 1: they'll say, no, I'm not going with you. And this

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Speaker 1: then leads to escalation part of this, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is what it really gets to in the context

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Speaker 1: not only of Penny in New York, but you know

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco they're trying to pass this bill now

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Speaker 1: that says you can't use force to defend property. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: this is really the basis of it all. Ultimately, the

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Speaker 1: law is you will obey, and if you do not obey,

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Speaker 1: at some point there will be force of this state

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Speaker 1: brought down on you. That the state seeks a monopoly

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Speaker 1: on violence essentially or on force. And you can't just

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Speaker 1: do this where you disarm people and disallow them to

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Speaker 1: defend themselves and refuse to even have the state use

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Speaker 1: violence to enforce the law. Right to let people go

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Speaker 1: all the time to say, oh, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: do this, We're not going to you're creating the term

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Speaker 1: everyone keeps seeing these days is anarcho tyranny where everyone

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Speaker 1: has to be afraid and the whim of the state

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Speaker 1: is the only defense you have. And if that means

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Speaker 1: that you can't defend yourself.

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Speaker 3: Too bad. And I wonder. I know our producer Alley

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Speaker 3: rides a subway every day. If you told the average

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Speaker 3: woman who is on the subway, the average young kid

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Speaker 3: there is going to be a former marine who is

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Speaker 3: in good shape and is able to act to protect

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Speaker 3: individuals on your subway car, how many people would say

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Speaker 3: I will sign up for that in a heartbeat. I

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Speaker 3: think almost every woman and a lot of kids out

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Speaker 3: there that are traveling on the subways, and I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of men who aren't comfortable defending themselves, which

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Speaker 3: unfortunately is a huge percentage of men in this country today.

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Speaker 3: And so I wonder, Buck, as this case plays its

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Speaker 3: way through the New York City court system, if Daniel

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Speaker 3: Penny is found not guilty, which he should be, of

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Speaker 3: this manslaughter charge, I hope that it is going to

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Speaker 3: be an eye opening moment for many people out there

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Speaker 3: about the degree to which people of all races, white, Black, Asian,

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Speaker 3: and Hispanic feel unsafe in New York City and also

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Speaker 3: many other of the major cities out there across the country,

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Speaker 3: in particular women and children. And obviously there's not any

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Speaker 3: children on this jury, but I would think if you're

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Speaker 3: a woman who rides on the subway and you had

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Speaker 3: to decide between a guy who's making violent threats, who

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Speaker 3: has engaged in violent behavior before, or the marine, I

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Speaker 3: just don't see any way if, even in New York City, Buck,

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Speaker 3: that this can be a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think his behavior was reckless.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, do you think that

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Speaker 1: they're going to try to get a plea deal for this.

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Speaker 1: I get the sense that Bragg's office has got to know.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe they give a plea deal with very minimal,

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Speaker 1: very minimal jail time. Look, three years is the bottom

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Speaker 1: end of the recommendations right now, and with parole that

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Speaker 1: would mean that you could get out probably in fifteen months.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Penny, I think I take this. I think

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Speaker 1: I take this all the way. But I would assume

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Speaker 1: that Brag does not want to take this to trial

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Speaker 1: if he can avoid it, because on this one in

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Speaker 1: New York City, you know, the libs who go on

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Speaker 1: CNN at MSNBC may pretend like everybody is outraged by this,

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Speaker 1: and everybody thinks this was like racist in some way.

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Speaker 1: People who ride the subway are like, we're sick of

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Speaker 1: this crap. That's honestly where that's the mindset right now.

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Speaker 3: Politically, buck this charge feels like the bare minimum that

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Speaker 3: Bragg can do to bow to the woke activists. And

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Speaker 3: then I wonder, behind the scenes, to your point, are

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Speaker 3: they trying to figure out a way to get out

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Speaker 3: of this with a plea. I don't think Penny will plea.

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Speaker 3: And also Bragg may have decided from a political perspective

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Speaker 3: that even bringing these charges in losing is beneficial to

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Speaker 3: him because then he can blame the jury as opposed

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Speaker 3: to himself. In other words, give a bare minimum charge.

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Speaker 3: If you get a conviction, the woke people are happy.

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Speaker 3: If Penny beats these charges, then you have done everything

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Speaker 3: that you could have done in this situation. The big

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Speaker 3: loser here, frankly, unfortunately, is the justice system, because there's

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Speaker 3: no reason legitimately for Penny to have been charged in

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Speaker 3: mention this out before we got to the calls. Do

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Speaker 3: attractive women in bikinis, like lounging in a pool overlooking

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Speaker 3: Pay attention to this. There's never anyone who's out of

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Speaker 1: The biggest, the biggest lie that you'll see in advertising

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Speaker 1: for whether it's a home on the beach or a

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Speaker 1: resort somewhere, there's never anyone else there. And that's why

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Speaker 1: if you really look at anytime you look at a

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Speaker 1: resort and they're showing you the pool, they're showing you

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Speaker 1: the beach, imagine it packed, and then decide if you

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Speaker 1: want to go because it will be packed.

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Speaker 3: I just please, I just think it's so funny, because

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Speaker 3: that's a great point too. It's always like a gorgeous

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Speaker 3: girl in a bikini, like lounging on the edge of

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Speaker 3: a pool with nobody else around, and it's like visit

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Speaker 3: Puerto Rico or Aruba is beautiful in may or whatever

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Speaker 3: the heck it.

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Speaker 1: Is, right, and really it's you know, it's like Sally,

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Speaker 1: you rubbed some block on my back, and you know,

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Speaker 1: people are shouting and they're playing loud music, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like, honey dropped the thing with the kids are

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Speaker 1: I thought we brought it to the beach and everyone's

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Speaker 1: yelling and shouting and it's a mess.

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Speaker 3: I was mostly off of social media because we had them,

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Speaker 3: my wife graduating from from law school, with parties and

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Speaker 3: everything else, a lot of family members. I did see

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Speaker 3: the old man Buck Sexton in the Gym series, I

585
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Speaker 3: don't know, like complaining about all the kids with their

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Speaker 3: ear pods and the way they talk on their phones,

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Speaker 3: and I was laughing to myself, as I've read for.

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Speaker 1: Those of you, it's not just the gym, but any

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Speaker 1: in any public venue. How many of you have experienced

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Speaker 1: this now where someone's there, like, you know, they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like we got to finish the deal man were better.

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Speaker 1: They're yelling about something. Oh man, he's he doesn't know

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Speaker 1: what he's messing with, Like we're gonna get closed, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get this business. And you're like, you're in a gym, buddy,

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Speaker 1: you're shouting. You're shouting because there's loud music and you're

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Speaker 1: having a work conversation on speaker phone basically, and some

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Speaker 1: people go full on speakerphone. I'm sorry, Clay, we are

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Speaker 1: not barbarians. This activity is unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: I don't think one reason I go speakerphone not in

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Speaker 3: the gym, but but it's because I can't hear on

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Speaker 3: my I don't think phones are designed now to actually

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Speaker 3: hear people talk on a phone anymore. I know there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of people out there like nodding their heads.

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Speaker 3: I put my phone to my ear. It feels like

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Speaker 3: the least efficient part of a phone now is actually

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Speaker 3: being able to have a phone conversation, because basically we

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Speaker 3: just have many computers and so I could hear better

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Speaker 3: if I put it on a speakerphone to try to

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Speaker 3: just have an actual conversation. Most of my conversation is

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Speaker 3: not very exciting. It's like, hey, who's picking up the

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Speaker 3: kid at little league? Who's doing this? To that bob

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Speaker 3: in Mandeville, Louisiana, You've got a you want to endorse.

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Speaker 3: You worked at a beer company and you agree with

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Speaker 3: me that most people can't tell the difference between most

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Speaker 3: beer brands.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, guys. I have to say it's a pleasure

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Speaker 8: to talk with you today, and going a little further

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Speaker 8: than the inspecific of nobody can tell. The research that

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Speaker 8: we were doing at the time that I was with

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Speaker 8: the company, which was the Schlitz Doing Company in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 8: we were looking at the demographics in a lot of scientific,

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Speaker 8: a scientific way, and it became obvious after some extensive

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Speaker 8: research that well, in excess of ninety percent of the

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Speaker 8: people who sat down to taste there had no concept

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Speaker 8: and no ability to tell them the difference between beers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, thank you for the call. That is amazing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this has been my thing for all the

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Speaker 3: people out there who are beer drinkers that are angry.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is true for wine and

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Speaker 3: you know, I went on Italy trip recently, Buck and

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Speaker 3: we were out of a vineyard and I will you

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Speaker 3: were talking about the atmosphere and the ambiance and how

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Speaker 3: that implod into is your ability to enjoy. When they

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Speaker 3: were telling me these grapes were pulled right off of

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Speaker 3: the vines, directly outside on the sloping majestic hillside of this,

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, this does taste really good. It

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Speaker 3: could have been totally a lie, right that wine could

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Speaker 3: have come from anywhere, But in my head I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: this beautiful majestic setting with the grapes coming right off

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Speaker 3: the vineyard, it did taste particularly appetizing to me.

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Speaker 1: This is how they This is how they get you

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Speaker 1: if you're Napa or you know, Russian River Valley or

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Speaker 1: something in nordern California, or any vineyard for that matter,

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Speaker 1: the vineyards all over the country and you go there

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Speaker 1: and you're like, this is the best wine I've ever

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Speaker 1: I've ever had, Honey, we need to buy three cases

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Speaker 1: of this right away to have it shift to your home. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the wine is so good because you're at a vineyard,

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Speaker 1: it's beautiful outside, You're surrounded by nature. They're bringing you

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Speaker 1: artisanal cheese, and they're fancy wine. People telling you how

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Speaker 1: delicious whatever you're drinking. Is the power of suggestion and association,

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Speaker 1: my friends, it's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: You're probably on vacation to your oh.

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Speaker 1: Rest level is low, your little drunk baby a little buzz,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Paul and Dulu, Well we're going to break. We'll

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Speaker 3: get you. Paul in the third hour of the program,

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Speaker 3: Paul wanted to tee off on these marketing campaigns, but

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Speaker 3: I would just point out that attractive people in bathing

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Speaker 3: suits have been selling products for as long as bathing suits,

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Speaker 3: and attractive people have existed as long as print photography

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Speaker 3: has and I bet they used to draw pictures of

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Speaker 3: really pretty girls back in the day before we even

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Speaker 3: had cameras, to try to get you to buy your

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Speaker 3: ale or your mead or whatever you might have been

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Speaker 3: interested in back in the day in the nineteenth century.

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Speaker 3: That would be my guess, before they had the Dargat

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Speaker 3: types or whatever you call it.

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Speaker 1: We're interested in a showdown that happened in Iowa over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, A little bit of back and forth on

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Speaker 1: Trump and DeSantis and the rally that was not Let's

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Speaker 1: get into that more coming up.

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Speaker 6: Slave Travis and Buck Sexton on the front line of

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Speaker 6: twe