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Speaker 2: Oh? I like it? Yay, my little my new boot
Speaker 2: came up with that and.
Speaker 1: This man's got a new boot every Thursday of the
Speaker 1: second month.
Speaker 2: I just wait anyway, y'all, it's your girl AJ. What's
Speaker 2: up Tom?
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, it's staying band. I love y'all. Thank y'all
Speaker 3: so much for tuning in. Hey girl, what's up with.
Speaker 2: You that much? I was your weekend? You know what?
Speaker 1: This weekend, it was my guy baby's second birthday, and
Speaker 1: we had a nice little party for her, and everybody
Speaker 1: brought their kids and it was a cute little shin
Speaker 1: dig and then you know, at night and turned into
Speaker 1: adult party and baby by the time night the sun
Speaker 1: started going down, I was drunk and I was on
Speaker 1: the bouncy house and I was rolling down the slide
Speaker 1: on the bouncy house. By Sunday, my whole body hurt
Speaker 1: like I had been in a car accident.
Speaker 2: Girl, Listen, we can't be playing the same like how
Speaker 2: we used to.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing it.
Speaker 1: I did that cartwheel last week and my rotator cut
Speaker 1: fucked up, and now the bouncy house had my whole
Speaker 1: body store on Sunday.
Speaker 3: I can't grow.
Speaker 2: Up, bitch. That video you sent me trying to run
Speaker 2: that book is heavy, yll It's fucking heavy, like tam
Speaker 2: me running slow fucking motion.
Speaker 3: I tried to bet I've let a dog or the
Speaker 3: police get behind me. Watch how fast I be beach.
Speaker 2: My weekend was cool though. They had a juneteenth big
Speaker 2: ass festival. It's now it's like think that this was
Speaker 2: maybe the third annual, now the third year they've done
Speaker 2: it at the waterfront here in North Charleston. It was
Speaker 2: from two to ten. I didn't get out tore to
Speaker 2: like six. I had to wait for the sun to
Speaker 2: go down. It was the hardest fucking on Saturday. It
Speaker 2: was a million people out there. They had very, very
Speaker 2: nice fireworks at the end of the night. I was
Speaker 2: waiting for like I wish they would have did like
Speaker 2: two to five for families, right, and then from five
Speaker 2: to ten for adults, because you can't drink or smoke
Speaker 2: out there, Like that's not fun. Well, that's not what
Speaker 2: JUNEO is about. So bring your own bottle, girl. It's
Speaker 2: like a big ass family reunion.
Speaker 3: All that stuff.
Speaker 2: That's not it's all about kids. Don't need to be
Speaker 2: outside at ten o'clock June tenth.
Speaker 3: It's like saying kids shouldn't be out for Fourth of July.
Speaker 2: They shouldn't after a certain time. Shoot, look my homegirl.
Speaker 2: She her neighborhood is only like five black people that
Speaker 2: live in the neighborhood, five black families. She's single, she
Speaker 2: lives alone. But she said she came outside and she
Speaker 2: saw all the white people had their trash to the
Speaker 2: to the street on Monday, and it kind of rubbed
Speaker 2: her the wrong way, like y'all not acknowledging it's Juneteenth,
Speaker 2: Like trash man ain't coming, y'all don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, you know what.
Speaker 1: They probably are oblivious to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I was working on white people because I was around
Speaker 1: a lot of white people yesterday spend class and all
Speaker 1: these places, and I was just waiting on white people
Speaker 1: to say happy June teeth. But there was like good morning,
Speaker 1: good afternoon, good evening. That's all I got it was
Speaker 1: no happy June teas. Then I felt a way, so
Speaker 1: I would say it happy June tea.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bitch, I don't care nothing about I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like I would prefer reparations. You know, they
Speaker 2: gave us a day. Yes, when where's the money? Cut
Speaker 2: the check? We need that check? Okay, nobody asked for this.
Speaker 2: That's why we got to get some of these old
Speaker 2: assed people out of politics, because why who asked for that?
Speaker 2: But anyway, I know, junteenth, I understand what it represents.
Speaker 2: But mainly people in Texas have always celebrated you because
Speaker 2: them niggas ain't know he was free down there. That's
Speaker 2: what had happened.
Speaker 3: That's really what happened. Ain't just sad?
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like that was happening all over
Speaker 2: though a lot of people didn't know what. It's almost
Speaker 2: like getting out of prison, like now what. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who don't know they free today. So period,
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Okay, Oh, let's not.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that for another episode, right, So
Speaker 3: let's get into sins of the week.
Speaker 1: This one is really sad and I almost didn't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it, but we're gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons probably had the worst Father's Day of anybody
Speaker 1: this Father's Day.
Speaker 3: His daughters. First, the oldest daughter.
Speaker 1: Took to social media to basically tell her mom Happy
Speaker 1: Father's Day, and then Kamora got on and pretty much
Speaker 1: blasted him, and then the young one she just went
Speaker 1: crazy with it and posted like him yelling at her.
Speaker 1: It was a screen record with no sound and basically
Speaker 1: saying that he has been a poor father figure for
Speaker 1: those kids or well adults because they're young adults now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was sad to watch because, like jay Z says,
Speaker 1: nobody wins when the family fuse.
Speaker 3: That's how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: It's disheartening to see them going at it because I mean,
Speaker 1: name a family who hasn't had problems, right, name one.
Speaker 3: I'll show you somebody that's lying.
Speaker 2: Everybody has had something else.
Speaker 3: Everybody has had something that.
Speaker 1: But what everybody hasn't had is it public.
Speaker 3: For the world to discuss and to be on we
Speaker 3: talk back podcasts.
Speaker 2: You know, so aired out all the family laundry, right.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that. I don't agree with how
Speaker 2: they are taking it to that that I understand emotions though,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and we don't know what's
Speaker 2: been going on. I know one thing, I kind of
Speaker 2: I like Russell Simmons, you know all that, But I
Speaker 2: sighed eye him a lot. Is he back in the
Speaker 2: United States yet, because you know he's been.
Speaker 3: No, he's in Bally still from what I understand, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because he has some allegations hanging on his back since
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Y'all know he he's been with He was
Speaker 2: with Kimora for a long time. She was a teenager
Speaker 2: when they got together. He was forty one when he
Speaker 2: got married, and she was like twenty two, twenty three
Speaker 2: years old. He raised her, so I can just imagine
Speaker 2: like the emotional trauma that she may have been through
Speaker 2: all of these years too. So we can't really, like
Speaker 2: like we had the episode on, you know, who's able
Speaker 2: to grieve and all that publicly, we can't really dictate
Speaker 2: how people choose to express.
Speaker 3: Yeah, trauma.
Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in this fight, honestly. I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's sad and hopefully they can figure
Speaker 1: out how to be a fan, you know, to be
Speaker 1: a healthy family.
Speaker 3: That's what I wish for. Us all though, so mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So the one thing, So Kimora Lee's ex husband, what
Speaker 2: is his name, Tim Lessner, So that guy, he's all,
Speaker 2: all of them are all wrapped up in that ship
Speaker 2: that was going on with Pras Michael, with the Fujis
Speaker 2: and these Asian this agent fund that these people were
Speaker 2: in bezzling money from. So apparently Russell simm is saying
Speaker 2: that Kamora sold some of his stock shares to pay
Speaker 2: for her x now ex husband legal defense in that
Speaker 2: particular case. So it's fucking wild these people. This shit
Speaker 2: is deep. All of it is real deep, and it's
Speaker 2: just crazy to watch it play out unfold right before
Speaker 2: your eyes. Just got to be paying attention. But girl,
Speaker 2: this is stupid, real, stupid internet news. Now. So this man,
Speaker 2: actually I saw this on on social media one of
Speaker 2: my favorite Instagram pages, mindset dot Therapy. So this man
Speaker 2: commented on his own wanted poster on fucking Facebook. So
Speaker 2: this is where Richley, Washington Police Department that says one
Speaker 2: at Wednesday, they have this thing called one it Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Anthony Akers thirty eight is wanted by the Department of
Speaker 2: Corrections for failure to comply if you have any information
Speaker 2: call this food comments and says, calm down, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: turn myself in. Like they reply back, like, hey, Anthony,
Speaker 2: we haven't seen you yet. Our business hours are eight
Speaker 2: to five Monday through Friday. Of course, if you need
Speaker 2: a ride, you can call a non emergency five on
Speaker 2: nine sixty eight zero three three three and we'll pick
Speaker 2: you up.
Speaker 1: Relaxed, y'all, ain't gotta post my picture.
Speaker 2: I'm coming, he's the proplies back and says, thank you
Speaker 2: tying up a couple loosens, since I will probably be
Speaker 2: in there for a month, should be in there in
Speaker 2: the next forty eight hours. And five days later they
Speaker 2: come in and say he has turned himself in. Well
Speaker 2: that's a stand up guy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call me and shit, y'all just gonna have
Speaker 2: to find me. That's your job, period. I gonna have
Speaker 2: to do your job. I'm about to help her.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you saw this, but uh,
Speaker 1: there's a podcast by Megan James called Hollywood Group Chat
Speaker 1: Podcast and she had Johnny Blaze on and during the interview,
Speaker 1: she says to Johnny Blaze like something along the lines
Speaker 1: about her still being a crackhead and if she's no
Speaker 1: longer a crackhead pretty much to prove it, and she
Speaker 1: pulls out a drug test and then she calls to
Speaker 1: the makeup artist and it's like, what's your name?
Speaker 3: She gonna go in the bathroom with you to do
Speaker 3: this drug test.
Speaker 1: And I stank when it went right when the video posted,
Speaker 1: like people was dragging, raking Meghan James over the Coles Baby.
Speaker 1: They was coming for her about you know how she
Speaker 1: was coming at Johnny Blaze, and Johnny Blaze responded saying like,
Speaker 1: basically people be trying her and doing her any kind
Speaker 1: of way. But then Meghan James came back and said, like,
Speaker 1: you aksed me to give you this drug test, and
Speaker 1: you begged me to come on this show, and it's
Speaker 1: crazy that you would allow people to drag me like
Speaker 1: this when this whole thing was your idea. So I
Speaker 1: get both perspectives, but I maybe it was Megan James
Speaker 1: delivery that was just kind of off putting.
Speaker 2: It her whole attitude. It was stink. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Yes, this is a guest, no matter how
Speaker 2: she ended up there, she's a guest. Like it's like
Speaker 2: almost like she brought her up there to embarrass her, right,
Speaker 2: And it got to a point I saw the videos.
Speaker 2: It got to a point where Johnny was like, pass
Speaker 2: me my cell phone, like can you record what's going on?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, can you stream what's
Speaker 2: going on? Cause she was clearly uncomfortable. I don't think
Speaker 2: she deserved to be cheated. Like I've met her before
Speaker 2: when like in the actual strip club in Houston. Very
Speaker 2: nice girl back in the day. She was much smaller, cute,
Speaker 2: find its hell bitch was in there on her fucking head.
Speaker 2: Nice girl. I don't think she deserves to be treated
Speaker 2: like that. She's highly talented.
Speaker 1: Right, She's very talented, and you know, it surprised me
Speaker 1: because she is a fighter. I'm surprised she's just That's
Speaker 1: why I felt like maybe she was in on it,
Speaker 1: because why are you letting this girl call you a crackhead.
Speaker 2: Trying to have a viral moment? They got it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they got what they're doing everything. I'm not doing anything
Speaker 2: for TV man.
Speaker 1: Right, not an expense of somebody's you know, feelings. I
Speaker 1: guess hell yeah, Like I'm not trying to hurt nobody
Speaker 1: to get a viral moment.
Speaker 3: It's not that deep.
Speaker 2: But it may also be Johnny Blaze trying to get
Speaker 2: the viral moment as well. Like they're talking about her now,
Speaker 2: they're talking about making James. That may have been the goal.
Speaker 2: You know, it may not have been delivered in the
Speaker 2: way that Johnny Blade anticipated for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was the goal.
Speaker 1: It was the goal to like, you know, vindicate herself
Speaker 1: of the drug rumors.
Speaker 2: But she was sniffing coke online. I saw it. She
Speaker 2: was on Live sniff and coche. I saw that shit
Speaker 2: with my own eyes.
Speaker 1: James said, cocaine is the hall of a drug. So woo,
Speaker 1: it's not safe anymore. Those guys be careful if you
Speaker 1: if you like the party, get you some nark hann
Speaker 1: or something, keep it close by.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing that did happen. So I'm at my
Speaker 2: mom's right and I hear some voices. So apparently my
Speaker 2: cousin and her daughter came over. Like my cousin, she's
Speaker 2: sixty something years old. Recently she did she did overdose.
Speaker 2: She made it sixty years old, over sixty five. I
Speaker 2: might had sixty she might be yeah, sixty five. Just
Speaker 2: last year, another cousin of mine actually died in.
Speaker 3: Her home from cocaine.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were doing yes, So now
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I hear her. I mean, like I listen,
Speaker 2: I don't judge people life choices. You know I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't feel for your life more than you do.
Speaker 2: So whatever your choices are, I'm happy for you. That's
Speaker 2: really where I'm at. You know what I'm saying. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm no longer into defending myself. It gets people, and
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put anybody in a position to defend
Speaker 2: how to choose to live their lives anymore. But I
Speaker 2: was cracking the fuck up because I heard her say
Speaker 2: all this time, I know I had a bad heart.
Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, you've been smoking crack like I'm thirty nine,
Speaker 2: Like you've been smoking crack my whole life. What do
Speaker 2: you mean you thought your heart was gonna stay good
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 3: Well do crack effect the heart?
Speaker 2: I would have assumed. So if it didn't affect it
Speaker 2: the last thirty nine years, this fortieth year is gonna
Speaker 2: affect it, girl, Because fitting all out here, you gotta
Speaker 2: figure something else out. I need you to get your
Speaker 2: some gummies, ayahuasca, something something else to feed the thing,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna get the fuck up out of here
Speaker 2: if you don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: You gotta make a choice right now with these people
Speaker 2: who choose, y'all obviously playing Russian Roulette for real, you
Speaker 2: just waiting for way, waiting on you a moment anyway, y'all. Okay,
Speaker 2: this week's episode, it started off talking about singleness, okay,
Speaker 2: because we're sick of men in particular telling black women
Speaker 2: they gonna live and die alone when even if you
Speaker 2: get married nine times out of ten, you're gonna die
Speaker 2: a widow anyway. So men always getting taken care of.
Speaker 2: So y'all could just shut the hell up anyway. But
Speaker 2: somehow the argument I mean, excuse me, not an argument.
Speaker 2: Oh you said it right, But somehow the fucking episode
Speaker 2: took a major turn, and we're gonna go ahead and put
Speaker 2: it out because listen, it's real. It's shit that goes on, goodness, friendships,
Speaker 2: your love life. You're gonna fucking argue. So that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Like to hear it, here go, what's up, y'all?
Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in for a new episode of
Speaker 2: We Talk Back TV. What's up, Tom? Hey? Hey, y'all,
Speaker 2: thank you for coming back. I gotta stop saying emn,
Speaker 2: why do I do that? I don't know. It's a
Speaker 2: black girl thing, it is. So we did have a
Speaker 2: good time at the Krowne Claiborne comedy show. This Nigga
Speaker 2: is so funny.
Speaker 1: Everybody on the line up was funny. It was a
Speaker 1: really good show. I enjoyed myself.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the other comedians names. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I did follow them on Instagram, No, but I don't
Speaker 2: remember their names.
Speaker 3: One's name was Jesse.
Speaker 2: One's names was Hoody Wody. That's what it was, Wody.
Speaker 1: And then the other one, God, I didn't get all.
Speaker 2: I know his t shirt said I'm a superhero to
Speaker 2: my kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good. I love.
Speaker 1: All of them were really good. And then of course
Speaker 1: Kerwin Claiborne was just amazing.
Speaker 2: He's just funny for no damn reason. Man. You know,
Speaker 2: like it's like you almost get tired of people being
Speaker 2: that funny. Like, go man, I don't feel like my
Speaker 2: face hurt. I don't feel like laughing no more.
Speaker 3: Like this morning.
Speaker 1: I felt like I did crunches last night because my
Speaker 1: abs from contracting from laughing.
Speaker 2: Yes, so you know, I want to do an episode
Speaker 2: today to talk about singleness mmmm and why it seems
Speaker 2: like women are shunned for being single for some reason,
Speaker 2: all while men is like, you know, I'm outside. It's
Speaker 2: cool for men to be outside.
Speaker 3: But do you feel shown by people?
Speaker 2: Like people are absolutely like the older you getting now
Speaker 2: listen and social media be ripping. That's a whole new one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try not to anytime I actually read those comments.
Speaker 2: How do you feel? How does it make you feel?
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll be offended and I'll be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: about to go cuss.
Speaker 2: This because we talk back, bitch, because who you talking
Speaker 2: to me?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And I will go to your page and like rip
Speaker 1: you the shreds, right. But then sometimes someone be funny,
Speaker 1: like I'll laugh because I know I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not no skinny girl, but I ain't no refrigerator.
Speaker 2: Like that's a bit of a stretch, sir. You know.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking on social media, I'm like, wait, I
Speaker 2: didn't comment on this person thing, Like I'm thinking I'm
Speaker 2: on my page, but y'all it's tam ass for the
Speaker 2: podcast page on a nigga's personal page talk about you're ugly,
Speaker 2: your handline fucked up? You gotta do that to people.
Speaker 2: I almost want to start like screenshining people and then
Speaker 2: posting them on the page and roasting the fuck out
Speaker 2: their ass, right, I swear I want to do that
Speaker 2: because do it.
Speaker 3: Because you coming over here to just be mean.
Speaker 1: You know, like if you don't like what we're saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's one thing, but you're just coming over here to
Speaker 1: like assassinate our bodies and all these things for what reason?
Speaker 2: And that's another thing. Women can't do that men can.
Speaker 2: Women can't be ugly, but men can be. That's another
Speaker 2: thing I don't understand, Like why do you like what
Speaker 2: do you see when you look in the mirror? Sir?
Speaker 3: Like you all?
Speaker 2: That's confidence, the audacity of that nigga to come over
Speaker 2: there and talk shit about us. I think society teaches
Speaker 2: women to like over judge themselves.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: They placed value in what we look like, our greatest
Speaker 1: value in our periance, and in men, their greatest value
Speaker 1: is in their possessions.
Speaker 3: You know, what can they afford?
Speaker 2: Right, So they feel like they can be ugly as
Speaker 2: long as they're rich, and we can be but as
Speaker 2: long as we're beautiful girl. These guys on the internet
Speaker 2: are not rich. These are not rich niggas. That's in
Speaker 2: the comments. Rich men do not have time to come
Speaker 2: on our page to comment. And look, I'm gonna be clear,
Speaker 2: it's cool if y'all come talk shit on the page.
Speaker 2: I've already said this, but you gotta follow. We have
Speaker 2: to get that social digital currency. You're not just about
Speaker 2: to come over here and talk shit and not follow
Speaker 2: our pario. At the same time, it's just weird old behavior,
Speaker 2: even like when I comment on someone else's page, Like
Speaker 2: if I make a comment and you got motherfucker's comment,
Speaker 2: crazy shit. I never comment on anybody's comment unless I'm
Speaker 2: in agreeance. If I don't agree with it, I just
Speaker 2: keep scrolling right Like why are you here?
Speaker 3: I'm confused because they got else to do. Confused.
Speaker 2: Say what you want to say, but just know that
Speaker 2: if I'm born word, I will come on your pain
Speaker 2: if I got you Apart for fun, a nigga was
Speaker 2: like two tons of fun on a picture where we
Speaker 2: look fucking immaculate, Like what are you talking about? First
Speaker 2: of all, we could slip and slide across all y'all
Speaker 2: forehead if we feel like it okay, and you're gonna
Speaker 2: let us period slip and slide across the Forehead's slip
Speaker 2: and slide across the Nigga forehead and they gonna let us.
Speaker 2: So you over there talking shit, I'm confused.
Speaker 3: So are you happy single?
Speaker 2: Yes, because I'm out of Like I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: fresh out of relationship because it's almost gonna be what
Speaker 2: a year and a half in a minute, so it's
Speaker 2: not fresh. But I had been in relationships for like
Speaker 2: a decade. Yeah, so yeah, Like you know, the only
Speaker 2: drawback is now that I don't want to call it
Speaker 2: waste of time because I feel like only women like
Speaker 2: equate like relationship time, Like it's a waste when they
Speaker 2: don't get what they want at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: but you learn something from it. So now I know
Speaker 2: exactly what I want and I know exactly what I
Speaker 2: don't want, So now when I see that thing I
Speaker 2: don't want, I can leave it quicker as opposed to before.
Speaker 2: Like I'm sitting in a relationship for five years, unfulfilled, unhappy.
Speaker 2: So I think now I'm more equipped to get into
Speaker 2: a better relationship because I know for sure now I
Speaker 2: want a fucking happy man, because I'm genuinely happy, generally happy,
Speaker 2: even when my life looking stupid, Like I'm a happy person.
Speaker 2: But if you're dealing with a man who's knocking tent
Speaker 2: with who he is, he's gonna make sure yo ass
Speaker 2: unhappy too.
Speaker 3: I remember my ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I used to come home from work and I used
Speaker 1: to be like, hey baby, and he'd be like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck you so happy about you?
Speaker 2: I seeing you eight hours ago? Like, damn, I've never
Speaker 2: seen someone so miserable to be happy. That's a demon,
Speaker 2: Like imagine being happy.
Speaker 3: But am I happy single? Right now?
Speaker 1: I'm happy with me me single. I'm not happy to
Speaker 1: be single anymore. I think I'm ready to have some
Speaker 1: a relationship and I didn't. And it dawned on me
Speaker 1: more here recently when I was like trying to plan
Speaker 1: my twenty fifth birthday celebration and for a fifth time, yeah,
Speaker 1: for the tenth time going, and I realized that I
Speaker 1: didn't have a bay.
Speaker 3: I didn't have anyone to like.
Speaker 2: Go on that women always have someone, Okay.
Speaker 1: I have someone, but I didn't have anyone that I
Speaker 1: loved to go with or yeah, So it was just
Speaker 1: like this is kind of sad, and then sometimes like
Speaker 1: like I'll be content all day and then I walk
Speaker 1: in the house and I'm like making my dinner and
Speaker 1: I'm making my dinner for one and I'm just sitting
Speaker 1: there eating my little dinner on my little trade table,
Speaker 1: watching from on Prime or.
Speaker 3: Some shit like that.
Speaker 2: I watch that.
Speaker 1: Yeah good, Yeah, I like it, And I realized, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm in here doing this every night by myself.
Speaker 3: It's not I don't like that.
Speaker 1: And like, the options are out there, right, the options
Speaker 1: are out there, and I entertain here and I entertained there.
Speaker 3: But maybe my picker is broken. That's what my grandma
Speaker 3: used to.
Speaker 2: Say, your picker broken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, I pick wrong sometimes.
Speaker 2: I think I think we all pick wrong because sometimes
Speaker 2: we just attracted to the opposite. I well, I don't
Speaker 2: even say that. I feel like usually when you date somebody,
Speaker 2: you see a little bit of you and them. That's
Speaker 2: why you end up fucking with them in the first place.
Speaker 2: But maybe it's a part of you that you need
Speaker 2: to improve on. Why you keep picking this particular type
Speaker 2: of person.
Speaker 3: I'm a dog.
Speaker 2: I'm a dog, A dog, I could be I can
Speaker 2: be a dog man. That's why I have a lot
Speaker 2: of empathy and when people that's why like cheating, Like
Speaker 2: it's not the it's not the end. No, And so
Speaker 2: my next relationship, I really want somebody who let me
Speaker 2: like flirt all I want to do. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to smash nobody else. I just want to still get
Speaker 2: niggas to buy me drinks at the club, like when
Speaker 2: I hang out one time with my homegirl.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think men would like that though.
Speaker 1: You know, any man who has like ego, which most do,
Speaker 1: get ready your ego death right. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that's the thing, especially with black men. I can't speak
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: Ain't coming out of his pocket, Like he should be
Speaker 2: happy that he don't have to giving me money to
Speaker 2: go to the club.
Speaker 3: Well, probably most men would be like.
Speaker 1: They don't mind paying for their girl drinks to not
Speaker 1: be in.
Speaker 2: The nigga face, right, It's like, can I get it?
Speaker 2: Can I do it?
Speaker 3: You want to make sure you still got it? Yes?
Speaker 2: Do you remember when people was dragging, I should curry? Yes,
Speaker 2: when people were dragging, I should curry. Because she said
Speaker 2: she like women want to feel wanted like people. Men
Speaker 2: like to refer to shit in the Bible right. So
Speaker 2: the Bible says man man should not be alone. Right,
Speaker 2: so he created a woman from the rib all you
Speaker 2: know the creati story, right, because and then he also
Speaker 2: said for a man to love woman as Christ love
Speaker 2: the Church. They don't say nothing about a woman loving
Speaker 2: a man. Women have to feel loved. Women have to
Speaker 2: feel wanted. So if you're not making your woman feel wanting,
Speaker 2: you've got so familiar with her and she's now seeking
Speaker 2: validation from other men, that's your fault. That's your fault.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like we could, you know, quote the Bible.
Speaker 1: We could probably find somewhere where it is a woman
Speaker 1: should love her.
Speaker 3: Husband in there somewhere.
Speaker 2: No, it's not in there. Nowhere the Bible does it
Speaker 2: say that the woman should. It says man should love
Speaker 2: the woman as Christ love the Church. They don't really say.
Speaker 1: And that's the only person in the Bible they speak
Speaker 1: of love.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm sure we had need.
Speaker 2: A pass on and tell us in a comment, right,
Speaker 2: let us the Christian is gonna come out right, well,
Speaker 2: listen and listen. I bet you they won't prove me wrong.
Speaker 2: Women are to be loved.
Speaker 3: I think men are to be loved too. I think
Speaker 3: we're all I'm.
Speaker 2: Not saying we're not like men, but why do we
Speaker 2: have to grow to love them? Though?
Speaker 3: See what you mean?
Speaker 2: Oftentimes when women get married because they're tired of being single,
Speaker 2: they find somebody because we will never be single if
Speaker 2: we don't want to be Let's let let's take for instance,
Speaker 2: the girl that's on marriage have to lock up or whatever,
Speaker 2: what's the name of the moonque girl? And we'll get
Speaker 2: into what the fuck she got going on her eggs
Speaker 2: boo Derek. But even though like people will talk shit
Speaker 2: about her aesthetically, right, that woman can still get a man.
Speaker 2: All women can get a man. Can we say that
Speaker 2: all men can get a woman?
Speaker 1: Did they got forty dollars? Feel like everybody can get somebody, right, everybody?
Speaker 1: Even I've seen remembering people with them nasty teeth. They
Speaker 1: was in there kissing on Instagram and like with viral
Speaker 1: and it was and it was looked like they was
Speaker 1: in love. Everybody can get somebody, man and woman. I
Speaker 1: think you just gotta why in your higher level that's all.
Speaker 2: Right, right? So, but why is it that women catch
Speaker 2: hell from other women? You catch off from your granny
Speaker 2: for being single.
Speaker 3: Tell everybody I was, y'all.
Speaker 2: I remember one time.
Speaker 1: All right, this is back when like the kango hats
Speaker 1: where you are go ahead like I'm not. It wasn't kango.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a kango hat. It was like the Kano
Speaker 1: style of hat. And I had it on with like
Speaker 1: this little vest. I looked really cute. This was a
Speaker 1: cute little outfit I had on.
Speaker 3: And I came. I thought, I really did look cute.
Speaker 3: It was such a cute look.
Speaker 1: People were telling me I look cute that day because
Speaker 1: it had like the railroad kind of pattern in it.
Speaker 3: It was really cute.
Speaker 1: So I got home and I got out the car
Speaker 1: and my sister, my grandma, and my sister best friend Niecy.
Speaker 1: They was standing under a tree right just catching some shade,
Speaker 1: and my grandma.
Speaker 2: Was like, hey baby.
Speaker 1: I said hey, Grandma, and I kept walking and I
Speaker 1: said hey, y'all, and they was like hey, And then
Speaker 1: I kept walking. All them bust out laughing about so
Speaker 1: I looked back and they was like hey, right, so
Speaker 1: you know, you could tell what somebody talking about. So
Speaker 1: then finally my sister came in the house. I said
Speaker 1: what Grandma said about me? Because I know it was
Speaker 1: my grandma, she said. As soon as you turn your back,
Speaker 1: she said, and.
Speaker 2: Started like tisting her head side to side like.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Grandpa, why are you telling people
Speaker 1: I'm gay?
Speaker 3: She was like, well, you got on that.
Speaker 2: Gay hat just because of my hat.
Speaker 3: You ain't got no man.
Speaker 2: Uh uh?
Speaker 3: See, Like, why so.
Speaker 2: A woman is shit unless we attached to a man.
Speaker 3: Gay hat and no man because was gay.
Speaker 2: I thought about this topic because I thought about this
Speaker 2: topic because in our comments on social media, and I
Speaker 2: also see this on other women's social media's, especially people
Speaker 2: who are in the podcast world, Like that's the go
Speaker 2: to for a lot of these guys. Y'all ain't got
Speaker 2: a man. Listen, this is fucking entertainment. I got niggas, okay,
Speaker 2: and I can choose one when I want to. Every
Speaker 2: woman I feel like, can Yeah, I agree?
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: So imagine you thinking you know my life because of
Speaker 2: this internet shit. And even the guy friends who I
Speaker 2: have platonic relationships with, I'm an amazing person. They love
Speaker 2: me like I have a lot of people, a lot
Speaker 2: of guys that love me. Y'all, niggas don't know us, right,
Speaker 2: that's a bottom line.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have like a lot of
Speaker 1: platonic relationships with men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some some people I may have been intimate
Speaker 2: with at some point, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 2: some not. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I find it hard for me to sustain healthy relation
Speaker 1: platonic relationships with men because they always try to fuck
Speaker 1: at some point.
Speaker 2: Well, they say that women can't have male friends because
Speaker 2: niggas try to fuck at some point.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I have this wo man just don't have integrity, man,
Speaker 2: because I feel like if I call any of my
Speaker 2: platonic like it could be Yeah, if I call them
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, I want to give you this
Speaker 2: pussy today, They're gonna take it right right.
Speaker 1: I have one friend here, like I just I love
Speaker 1: him so much as my friend, but I can't be
Speaker 1: his friend because anytime we hang out, he'd be like,
Speaker 1: let's get married tomorrow, you know, basically like on that line.
Speaker 2: But don't we say that, Oh, your mate should be
Speaker 2: your friend, don't we say that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I don't see him in that light. I see
Speaker 1: him like a brother, not someone that I could be
Speaker 1: intimate with.
Speaker 2: You know, It's weird because soon as a man makes
Speaker 2: up in his mind that he likes you in that way,
Speaker 2: is like you automatically supposed to like him like that,
Speaker 2: as if we don't have preference.
Speaker 3: And he'd be like, why we don't hang out no more?
Speaker 2: And I and I don't want to be like because
Speaker 2: you can't keep it play, just keep it cool, we phrased.
Speaker 2: I want to be your feet want that he like
Speaker 2: throw out a little sexual and doing and do windows
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Yeah, he'd be like, let me
Speaker 2: hold your feet, let me rub your feet, and I'll
Speaker 2: be like, nigga, chill, let's smoke this blood and that's
Speaker 2: this basketball game.
Speaker 3: But nigga, like what's up?
Speaker 1: Like I don't want you to rub my feet, you know,
Speaker 1: like even though I would love my feet rub, I
Speaker 1: don't want to take advantage of what this is.
Speaker 2: And it's not that you know mm hmm.
Speaker 3: That would be fucked up to be.
Speaker 1: Letting a nigga I don't care about in that way,
Speaker 1: just be rubbing on my feet and shit like that.
Speaker 2: No following some dick. No, I don't want that. Get
Speaker 2: what else to do it? Fuck rout them following some dick.
Speaker 1: You just gotta be careful, Like I had to learn
Speaker 1: the hard way about how you you know, handle people
Speaker 1: when it comes to people's emotions and things like that
Speaker 1: with me, and like, I don't want to play with nobody,
Speaker 1: And I don't want to give any false ideas about
Speaker 1: what this could be, right because you suck around and
Speaker 1: have somebody stalking your hair.
Speaker 2: I'm not a fun girl. I can't pretend like I
Speaker 2: like you just for like things and attention. I can't
Speaker 2: pretend I.
Speaker 1: Used to be here a long time ago, Like in
Speaker 1: my twenties, I definitely went on a trip with a guy,
Speaker 1: been on trips with guys that like I kind of like.
Speaker 3: I like him, I don't like him.
Speaker 2: I'm not putting myself in a clothes setting with anybody
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 1: No, Like it was never no, but like I've never
Speaker 1: been out with somebody like I didn't like at all.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like, Oh, he's so amazing, I just
Speaker 1: want to be with hang out with him. It was
Speaker 1: it was like, he's cool and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: great things that come with him.
Speaker 2: You've never had that, Yes, but I wouldn't play with
Speaker 2: them in that way because I'll get annoyed real quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, like I don't want to play on me
Speaker 3: neither now now that I got my own money.
Speaker 2: Oh got it, bitch, just before the money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a broke, broke, young broke broke bitch energy.
Speaker 3: Ye who got my who got a lot of money
Speaker 3: in it?
Speaker 2: I actually have more money in my twenties, bitch, lose
Speaker 2: the way to God?
Speaker 1: Yes, like I remember, I remember being so broke one
Speaker 1: time in college. Me and my homegirl went and got
Speaker 1: a foe for four and I think.
Speaker 2: That bitch, bruh, that's how poor I was. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about broke bitch. Ship bitch, I'm calling my mama.
Speaker 3: Thank God for growth.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what is single shaming? It's such a thing.
Speaker 1: There's a thing like you ain't got no man, your
Speaker 1: pussy must be trash. Like that's that's single shaming.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's like live it's something. It needs to
Speaker 2: be fixed because I say I'm single, but but there's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong.
Speaker 3: Is there any truth to it?
Speaker 2: Though? What needs to be fixed?
Speaker 3: I feel like while you're in an attitude, while you're.
Speaker 2: In your singleness, let's be clear, huh, bitch, while you're
Speaker 2: in your singleness, everybody can take time for themselves and
Speaker 2: identify all their strengths weaknesses, maybe things that that because
Speaker 2: it's not not always the man, right, So there's things
Speaker 2: that maybe about you and your regular relationships and or friendships,
Speaker 2: right that people can improve on it. In your singleness,
Speaker 2: you can kind of highlight those things and work on
Speaker 2: them for your next relationship.
Speaker 1: I know one thing that I've had to learn to
Speaker 1: adjust to be in a healthy relationship is my mouth.
Speaker 2: I know this is we talk back, but sometimes I
Speaker 2: can shut the fuck I know when to shut the
Speaker 2: fuck up oftentimes, like you know, you could pick your battles.
Speaker 3: There was a time I didn't know he'd be like, say.
Speaker 2: The ship out of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I shut my mouth.
Speaker 2: I'll just be quiet. I won't even address like something's
Speaker 2: just not worth the choke. But I feel like this
Speaker 2: it just depends on the man you're dealing with, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, if he's capable of being normal
Speaker 2: when you choose not to say some ship. I feel
Speaker 2: like sometimes some people like they have to say something
Speaker 2: to you to evoke this thing out of you. Like
Speaker 2: I feel like that something shows up in them, right,
Speaker 2: So when you're trying to be different to avoid a situation,
Speaker 2: to avoid an argument, something still shows up. In them.
Speaker 2: They evoke this thing out of you to make you
Speaker 2: want to jump kick them.
Speaker 1: But it's like poke the beer, Poke the beer, poke
Speaker 1: the beer.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes, no, with your ask, no man, you be poking
Speaker 2: the bear. You sometimes you be mad, just already mad.
Speaker 2: And that's not true. That's not true. Girl, yesterday, girl, yesterday,
Speaker 2: that's not true. You was girl, I just half sleep
Speaker 2: and I woke up to me. I was wake You
Speaker 2: didn't wake up to no argument. Yes, you text me
Speaker 2: an argument. No, you read that in argument tone. So
Speaker 2: we about to do this on the episode. Let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and do it right quick, y'all. This ain't even
Speaker 2: about singing this no more. Let's let's do this right episode.
Speaker 2: Imagine this. Let me tell a whole story right quick, y'all.
Speaker 2: We are recording in Charlotte. Now, y'all know I live
Speaker 2: in Charleston, South Carolina, right, which is three hours from Charlotte.
Speaker 2: It might take me exactly through matter of fact, it
Speaker 2: takes three hours of fifteen minutes to get the Tammy's doorstep.
Speaker 2: Tammy leves five minutes from where we you record at, right,
Speaker 2: So I don't need to stay at Tammy's house. House,
Speaker 2: but it's convenient for the both of us, right, so
Speaker 2: we can get together, do our show orchestrate our content.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah blah. I woke up at
Speaker 2: four am right to get from Charleston to Charlotte. Even
Speaker 2: while talking about this right now, I'm getting fucking anxiety. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. Go ahead, right, Okay, So I
Speaker 2: wake up about four o'clock in the morning, I drive
Speaker 2: to Charlotte. Yes, I told Tammy the day before that
Speaker 2: i'd be at nine o'clock. But in my mind, I'm
Speaker 2: not a hairdresser appointment. Eight and nine is the same
Speaker 2: time as far as I'm concerned, if I'm just arriving
Speaker 2: at a friend's house. Right. So, if I decided to
Speaker 2: come an hour early, right arbitrarily, if I didn't communicate
Speaker 2: it with you or not, I'm calling Colin, Colin, Colin, Colin.
Speaker 2: You didn't answer, that's fine. I did arbitrarily make the
Speaker 2: executive decision that I needed to get here sooner earlier
Speaker 2: to make sure I was on time for our guest. Right, So,
Speaker 2: rather or not I communicated that to you or not.
Speaker 2: That's what I needed to do for us in our business, right,
Speaker 2: So I did that. I got here, Tammy wasn't answering.
Speaker 2: I called my niece. I called a couple other people.
Speaker 2: They weren't answering. I immediately went on Expedia to book
Speaker 2: a hotel room because I got money, right, I always
Speaker 2: got fuck you money. So even if I couldn't get
Speaker 2: my people on the phone so I can get to
Speaker 2: where I'm going so I can be here on time,
Speaker 2: I have other options. That was it, right. So while
Speaker 2: I was in Whole Foods peeing because I'm sitting in
Speaker 2: your garage for thirty minutes, I went to Whole Foods
Speaker 2: used the bathroom. One of my guy friends call me back,
Speaker 2: come on over here. I'll neaed to key blah blah.
Speaker 2: I go there and get dress da da da. I'm cool.
Speaker 2: Tammy calls me while I'm already five minutes from his
Speaker 2: house at this point. Right, So we talked. We even
Speaker 2: moved past her not waking up. Right, We're now talking
Speaker 2: about the show and what we're gonna do for the episode,
Speaker 2: because now it's just the flowers before our guest. I
Speaker 2: get out the shower at my friend's house, and I
Speaker 2: see a text message from Tammy that came after we
Speaker 2: had our phone conversation, and Tammy knows I don't like
Speaker 2: passive aggressive stuff. That is are if we've already spoke
Speaker 2: about it, Why are you texting me after we hang up?
Speaker 2: We already hung up?
Speaker 3: Can I respond?
Speaker 2: No, I want to tell the full story. So I
Speaker 2: get out the shower and this is the text message
Speaker 2: I have from Tammy. Now, mind you. All I said
Speaker 2: to Tammy was, hey, I was outside. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: no type of way because now I've already organized my life,
Speaker 2: I don't I'm past you not answering the phone at
Speaker 2: this point, right. So I get out the shower and
Speaker 2: my text message from Tammy was going to Kenneth house
Speaker 2: was a bigger waste of time, being that I'm five
Speaker 2: minutes from the studio. I'm just saying, you're just saying
Speaker 2: nothing when you're literally calling me while I'm five minutes
Speaker 2: away from where I'm heading to. The same time it
Speaker 2: took for me to drive to his house is the
Speaker 2: same how long it took for you to even call me. So, Senime,
Speaker 2: this text message was really irrelevant because one, you don't
Speaker 2: know where Kenneth lives. You don't know how far he is. Two.
Speaker 2: I still arrived earlier than you, having to have drive
Speaker 2: twenty minutes out the way, which I was fine with
Speaker 2: because I made the executive decision for me, for us
Speaker 2: for our show, to make sure I was situated so
Speaker 2: that I can be here on time. Now, at this
Speaker 2: point has nothing to do with you, So send me
Speaker 2: this message when you know how I am how I
Speaker 2: am right.
Speaker 3: I would love to respond. Go ahead, Yeah, you will in.
Speaker 2: A minute alone. Sendime this message. You wanted to evoke
Speaker 2: something in me, Go ahead.
Speaker 1: So you guys, I'm literally half sleep. I went to
Speaker 1: bed a little later. I knew she was coming at nine,
Speaker 1: so I said, I'm gonna set my alarm for eight thirty.
Speaker 1: Set my alarm for a thirty. I had a bunch
Speaker 1: of miscalls from her. She said, I'm going to Kenneth's house.
Speaker 1: We talked on the phone.
Speaker 3: The conversation was amicable. We didn't argue, right.
Speaker 1: You wasn't upset right, So when I sent that message,
Speaker 1: I was just saying, maybe you should just come here
Speaker 1: since it's so close.
Speaker 3: Listen, No, I didn't interrupt you allow me.
Speaker 2: Do you understand?
Speaker 3: Don't interrupt?
Speaker 2: Me, don't just make sure you following hold no, no,
Speaker 2: no follows, Okay, don't interrupt.
Speaker 1: So I sent the message like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: she says, I don't know how far far Kenneth's house is.
Speaker 1: I know how close my house is to the studio.
Speaker 1: So I sent that message like, don't waste any more
Speaker 1: time going over there. Just come back to here because
Speaker 1: I'm so close. I'm just saying it wasn't nasty, it
Speaker 1: didn't have any I wasn't trying to evoke anything. I
Speaker 1: was just trying to make both of our lives easier.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be beneficial for us to be
Speaker 1: in the same space because we had a guest coming.
Speaker 1: That was it for her to feel like I was
Speaker 1: attacking her or saying anything mean or gas lighting with
Speaker 1: something just inside her. That's how I felt like. I
Speaker 1: didn't We had we were cool on the phone. Why
Speaker 1: would I come at you negative all of a sudden
Speaker 1: for what does it do for me to come met
Speaker 1: you right now? I live five minutes from the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there before the show. Is fine, I
Speaker 1: don't have to get you can get dressed here. Everything
Speaker 1: is cool. What is the point in gaslighting you. I
Speaker 1: just sent you that message saying, hey, you don't have
Speaker 1: to go there. My house is open to you and
Speaker 1: it's close. I'm just saying, but you took it such
Speaker 1: a different way than I was sending it, And I
Speaker 1: don't know why you always perceived me as trying to
Speaker 1: come for you.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that for what.
Speaker 2: Okay, do y'all understand or do you understand Jordan, because
Speaker 2: this is we're recording this, but our videographer is here right.
Speaker 2: Imagine you're already where you're headed to and get this message.
Speaker 2: What's the point of even sending that message if I'm
Speaker 2: already situated.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You did, because when I got I got off the
Speaker 2: phone with you, you said because I missed my exit
Speaker 2: and I was five minutes from his house.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You don't know nothing, So why'd
Speaker 2: you send me that message?
Speaker 3: I was just saying, I'm five minutes from the.
Speaker 2: Studio, just come here. You're telling me I'm wasting time
Speaker 2: doing something when I wasted my time waking up early.
Speaker 2: I wasted my time sitting in your garage for thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: But that wasn't my fault, though that.
Speaker 2: Was more of a waste of time than me just
Speaker 2: going on to the next das to get it was
Speaker 2: no one's fault. So what's the purpose of why you're
Speaker 2: so angry? But what's the if? IM just saf message
Speaker 2: was I'm so close, I'm here from where Tammy, wherever
Speaker 2: you are right now? How does that make sense when
Speaker 2: I already still got to get dressed, and I'm already
Speaker 2: getting on.
Speaker 1: Five minutes from the studio. I was just trying to help.
Speaker 2: What has happened?
Speaker 3: Do you understand that?
Speaker 2: Imagine? What do you think?
Speaker 3: Honestly?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: tell us.
Speaker 3: I'm with the interpretation of the text.
Speaker 2: Ussis can because communication goes out one way and interpreted thousands.
Speaker 2: I do get, but we can't say that her perception, perception,
Speaker 2: how you perceive things. It's all right, yeah, well didn't
Speaker 2: know what she didn't.
Speaker 1: Know, right, absolutely, So then when she calls me, she
Speaker 1: called me yelling and screamed.
Speaker 2: And then call you initially yelling and screaming. When I
Speaker 2: called okay, let me tell y'all, let me let me
Speaker 2: read y'all. I'm gonna read this full stuff right quickly,
Speaker 2: we can go ahead and use the rest of the
Speaker 2: episode for this shit, all right, I Tammy text me
Speaker 2: going to Kenneth House was a bigger waste of time,
Speaker 2: being that I'm five minutes from the studio. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying to me in my mind, you're just saying that
Speaker 2: to say nothing because I'm already situated, I'm getting dressed,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on time. Don't worry about me at
Speaker 2: this point. I've I've I'm good, right, and you already
Speaker 2: said our conversation on the phone was amicable. Nobody was
Speaker 2: why did you have to send this message? So my
Speaker 2: response to Tammy was, Tammy, leave it alone. Arriving earlier
Speaker 2: was a waste of time. You do realize I was
Speaker 2: already headed there because I couldn't reach you. I could
Speaker 2: have gotten an extra forty five minutes to sleep myself.
Speaker 2: That's the truth, right. And the next thing I said
Speaker 2: was I have made preparations for you. I said, I
Speaker 2: would have made preparations for you if it were the
Speaker 2: other way around. Let's be clear and let me clarify
Speaker 2: what that is. Right. If I that's not nasty. See,
Speaker 2: that's your perception of my let's let's be clear.
Speaker 3: Is how did I not make preparations.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. If I live Tammy lives in a
Speaker 2: high rise in Charlotte, right, so they have concierge all
Speaker 2: that stuff. There's different. There's things you have to do
Speaker 2: to get into the building. If the shoe weren't the
Speaker 2: other foot and she was coming to my house, no
Speaker 2: matter what time Tammy got there, she'd have access. That's
Speaker 2: just the truth. It doesn't matter if I told you eight, nine, ten, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 2: if y'all know military time, it wouldn't matter. You'd have
Speaker 2: access to get into the place. You wouldn't. I would
Speaker 2: not have to get up because I would have made preparations.
Speaker 2: That's just how I am right. I would have not
Speaker 2: had to make sure my phone is by my heir
Speaker 2: because Tammy calls me at eight thirty am. I called
Speaker 2: your phone ten times, concierge called you twice.
Speaker 3: You were coming at nine.
Speaker 1: I'm not made preparations to be up before you came.
Speaker 2: But you wake up at eight? Is your phone on
Speaker 2: silent until do not disturb?
Speaker 1: And I set my alarm for eight because I knew
Speaker 1: you were coming at nine, so I would be up before.
Speaker 2: You got okay, And that's fine. I wasn't tripping. I
Speaker 2: went on with my life. But you, you, I mean
Speaker 2: teage did send me over the edge when I'm waiting
Speaker 2: up because I had been up from four o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning.
Speaker 3: You have like I did.
Speaker 2: I didn't do nothing to me though it's for us,
Speaker 2: though I'm not. I'm coming here because it's convenient for us.
Speaker 3: Do you understand that?
Speaker 2: I understand that, So I'm having to do to you.
Speaker 2: You didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 3: You didn't do.
Speaker 2: What you did was send me that text message, which
Speaker 2: you could have saved it, right, But because you're not
Speaker 2: having to do nothing extra for this show, I got up,
Speaker 2: I got here for us to retre like that's my fault,
Speaker 2: like I did the wrong. That is not true. That's
Speaker 2: absolutely not true. What you did wrong was told me
Speaker 2: what I could have done differently, when all I did
Speaker 2: was wake up an hour earlier and got here. And
Speaker 2: all I did was got here earlier. That's all I did.
Speaker 3: I did sleep until.
Speaker 2: I'm not tripping.
Speaker 1: But you were upset about it because why did that
Speaker 1: missage set you off so much?
Speaker 2: Because why are you telling me what I could have done? Differently, right,
Speaker 2: because you could have also done something differently too. Being
Speaker 2: sure your friend was our business parts friend and or
Speaker 2: business partner. Tried to do that, had access to do
Speaker 2: whatever they need to do because it is convenient for
Speaker 2: us to do things together at the same time.
Speaker 1: I tried to and I tried to do that for
Speaker 1: you by getting up thirty minutes early.
Speaker 2: Okay, call me so that there is no miscommunication. We
Speaker 2: both have each other's that saying. Okay, that's fair, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask that you not hang up in my
Speaker 2: face anymore.
Speaker 3: Don't do it anymore.
Speaker 2: It's rude, it's disrespectful. Girl. You have hung up when
Speaker 2: several times when me and yeah, y'all in business. Listen,
Speaker 2: it's just different. You could be friends with people, but
Speaker 2: when you get into business with people, it's different.
Speaker 1: Can you agree not to hang up in my face?
Speaker 1: And I won't hang up in yours?
Speaker 3: I will not.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna agree to that. Why because I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna see on the phone. I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 2: on the phone and continue to go on.
Speaker 3: And this is my baby, that's not true.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're a nigga here, right, niga.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you agree to not doing this?
Speaker 2: No, because what I do I believe that in arguments
Speaker 2: people have to step back. So we're not in a
Speaker 2: building together. We're on the phone, right if we If
Speaker 2: I see that I'm not gonna get a solid solution
Speaker 2: out of this conversation. I'm gonna hang up and step back.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit on the phone and keep going
Speaker 2: to a circle when we have limited time and.
Speaker 3: Get I don't feel like this conversation. I said, girl,
Speaker 3: I'm going, and I'm going to hang up.
Speaker 2: Once I say I'm going, I'm hanging up. You just
Speaker 2: hung up, I said, girl, I gotta start to do
Speaker 2: have a good day. Hung up.
Speaker 3: That's rude.
Speaker 2: If you don't see a I will do it again,
Speaker 2: and then y'all hear me. I'll do it again.
Speaker 3: I'll do your problem. I'll do it.
Speaker 2: Boyfriend, because I'm not the only person who gets hung
Speaker 2: up on Okay, but is that what's gonna happen, Well,
Speaker 2: we'll see you're gonna fight me because I hung up.
Speaker 3: Let's do it, bitch.
Speaker 2: Let's if if we have back for each other, and
Speaker 2: is that I don't feel like respect? I do, though
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a respective, because you've hung up
Speaker 2: on me.
Speaker 3: I do and I agree to you.
Speaker 1: I don't remember doing that, but if I've done it,
Speaker 1: I'll say I won't do it anymore because I don't
Speaker 1: like it done to me.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't mind if I if I don't mind
Speaker 2: somebody having to get a moment, I don't mind that. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: you're you and I'm me. You have an issue with
Speaker 2: text you want me to call you. I said, I'll
Speaker 2: agree to do that, and I'm asking you to please
Speaker 2: not hang up in my face because I don't like it.
Speaker 2: So go, okay, okay, let me be an adult, right quick, y'all.
Speaker 2: Going forward, I will sit on it. Once I'm done talking,
Speaker 2: I will sit in the phone in silence until Tammy
Speaker 2: is ready to hang.
Speaker 3: Up on me.
Speaker 2: That's what we'll do going forward. I won't be hanging
Speaker 2: up on you. So then so then we're gonna be
Speaker 2: getting dressed glued to the phone for the rest of
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: And see this is you see what the behavior is.
Speaker 2: I say, that's not a behavior, that is just the
Speaker 2: reality of what will then happen. Said if we don't
Speaker 2: get off the phone, I said, I won't hang up
Speaker 2: on right so we'll just be on the phone. Then
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying. If I'm not gonna hang
Speaker 2: up and you're not gonna hang out to hang up,
Speaker 2: we can agree that the conversation is either not going
Speaker 2: anywhere or it's over hanging up in each other's face.
Speaker 2: So how do we do?
Speaker 1: You can say, hey, I feel like this conversation is
Speaker 1: not going anywhere right now, let's reconvene another time.
Speaker 3: Bye, and we can hang up and I say bye,
Speaker 3: you say bye.
Speaker 2: We hang up, but just hanging up, let me make
Speaker 2: sure we get both two bys right, two bys mm hmm,
Speaker 2: and hang up. Yes, all right, and that's gonna make
Speaker 2: the situation better. Yes, how so, because the actual issue
Speaker 2: hasn't been maybe, then that's fine because we're coming back
Speaker 2: to it at a later time.
Speaker 1: But nobody feels disrespected in the end of the conversation.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't feel disrespected when somebody hangs up. Tammy
Speaker 2: feels disrespected if I hang up on her. I feel
Speaker 2: disrespected when somebody is insulting my intelligence. That's when I
Speaker 2: feel disrespected. So I get off the phone. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. If we're sitting we're going back and
Speaker 2: forth about the same thing. You're not getting me, I'm
Speaker 2: not getting you. We have our brains obviously, work different.
Speaker 2: We have different perceptions in the way we perceive what's
Speaker 2: happening in many situations, right, And I feel like it's
Speaker 2: just not to me. It gives me a lot of
Speaker 2: mental anguish to sit and keep going in a constant
Speaker 2: circle with somebody where I feel like, this is what
Speaker 2: singleness is. You know, at this point in my life,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm finding anybody who is on
Speaker 2: the same mental thing with me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Because you gotta kind of think like the person you're
Speaker 2: not going to fire exactly, not exactly, not exactly like you.
Speaker 2: Because even in my friend selection, right, I know that
Speaker 2: in my friends selection, most of the time it's something
Speaker 2: about them that I see me. That's what I was
Speaker 2: talking about, right, So you see yourself and the people
Speaker 2: that you deal with, right. So, But in order to
Speaker 2: keep down keep down confusion, you and whoever you deal with,
Speaker 2: y'all have to have similarities.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: But if you're in a situation with somebody where y'all
Speaker 2: y'all think completely different because you may not see you
Speaker 2: don't perceive that text message you sent me the same
Speaker 2: way I do. Right, twenty other people could perceive it
Speaker 2: in the way I do. Twenty other people can perceive
Speaker 2: it in the way you do. We clearly have miscommunication issues, right.
Speaker 2: It's a problem at this point for me because if
Speaker 2: I'm just going on and living my life, all I
Speaker 2: did was wake up an hour early. I didn't deserve
Speaker 2: the text message.
Speaker 1: Do you ever consider that it might have been valuable
Speaker 1: to tell me that before you went to sleep, you
Speaker 1: didn't have to call me back, even though we agreed
Speaker 1: to talk that night. It would have been valuable to say, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to bed now and I'm gonna come earlier,
Speaker 1: so that way I would have set my alarm for you.
Speaker 1: I could have done that instead of eight thirty. But
Speaker 1: did I not come prepared though?
Speaker 2: Because we talked on the phone when I got here,
Speaker 2: I told you what I thought about in the meantime. Right,
Speaker 2: It's just this is why I'm I'm just really, y'all.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of dealing with humans. It's just sold so
Speaker 2: many intricate little things. Everybody has a different way of thinking, eating, smoking, drinking,
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you do, like everybody has a different
Speaker 2: way of doing things, and it's fucking tiring.
Speaker 3: I feel like agree.
Speaker 2: If I if I were you, right, and you're already
Speaker 2: hearing Charlotte right, and I'm in Charleston, right, if I
Speaker 2: were you, I would just understand that's just because that's
Speaker 2: just who I am. I would have I would just
Speaker 2: understand that Tammy need to go to sleep because she
Speaker 2: need to get here in the morning. That's what I
Speaker 2: would understand. I did.
Speaker 3: I wait, I don't.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't get the type of grace
Speaker 2: that I extend to other people. I don't. Ever, I
Speaker 2: didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't Nothing was wrong with you going to sleep.
Speaker 1: But you could have communicated with me, That's all it
Speaker 1: would It would hurt nothing to send me a text saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to bed, I'm gonna come early.
Speaker 2: Right, it wouldn't have hurt right. But if you didn't
Speaker 2: do that, say, for instance, you were the one having
Speaker 2: to travel. If you didn't do that and you went
Speaker 2: had and went to sleep, I'd understand. I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: it wouldn't even be a conversation of anything to bring
Speaker 2: up to tell me what I could have done, What
Speaker 2: to tell you what you could have done differently, I
Speaker 2: would have just understood what I was just.
Speaker 1: Saying, is come over here because it would be convenient.
Speaker 2: We haven't we don't know that you sending me. That
Speaker 2: was just extra icing on top of this nasty cake.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was a nasty cake.
Speaker 2: Tell me, if you had to wake up at four
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning and drive somewhere and then now
Speaker 2: you have no place to be, you, I know you,
Speaker 2: you'd feel some type of way. I wouldn't, and I
Speaker 2: and and I just solved my problem right.
Speaker 1: First of all, I wouldn't feel like I had no
Speaker 1: place to be because I would know your house was
Speaker 1: my place to be.
Speaker 3: Then I also know at.
Speaker 2: That moment, okay, but I had no place to be
Speaker 2: sitting in my car.
Speaker 1: Okay, But I also know that I told you a
Speaker 1: certain time, and now it is before that time, and
Speaker 1: she's probably sleep, so I'll just as so, I'll just
Speaker 1: go grab some breakfast.
Speaker 2: That's our way. I went to Whole Food, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Okay, I've moved on.
Speaker 3: Okay, But but I didn't know it was a nasty cake.
Speaker 2: Okay. The nasty cake comes after the text message, but
Speaker 2: I still didn't know it was a nasty cake. Why
Speaker 2: are you texting me anything extra? If we're past it
Speaker 2: at this point, past what we're past me needing to
Speaker 2: get into your house. We're past that, but I didn't
Speaker 2: know that you are. The last thing you said was
Speaker 2: you were missing your exit. I was just I was
Speaker 2: just trying to be even if I'm hot on a highway,
Speaker 2: driving right and I'm missing my exit, How annoyed are
Speaker 2: you when you miss your exit, all right, and you
Speaker 2: get this message misplaced anger that house that misplaced? I'm
Speaker 2: missing my exit, answering the phone for you, right, and
Speaker 2: then I get a message about how I could have
Speaker 2: done something different because I'm missing my exit now, fucking
Speaker 2: with y'all. Look, do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Do you hear this?
Speaker 2: Do you hear this?
Speaker 3: I can't?
Speaker 2: Will you tell you nothing? All like a black Bob
Speaker 2: black man. Okay, these niggas be acting like they don't
Speaker 2: understand the shit women be going through, like y'all be knowing.
Speaker 2: But y'all choose a stick. I ain't going to get
Speaker 2: into it. That's woman's stuff. Shut up.
Speaker 1: I eveel like I can't win Jordan, I can't. That's
Speaker 1: all stuff I sleeped the wrong about a time, Like why.
Speaker 2: From until twelve I got braids, I ain't got shitting
Speaker 2: because your your business partner is coming from out of town,
Speaker 2: so I'll be up thirty minutes before she's supposed to
Speaker 2: be here.
Speaker 3: That should be ample.
Speaker 2: And that's and that's absolutely fine that you weren't. That
Speaker 2: I made that I got here extra time, right, and
Speaker 2: I know I got here earlier, right one hour earlier, right, well,
Speaker 2: tech hery thirty minutes based off your alarm thirty minutes earlier.
Speaker 1: To me here before that, because I got up thirty
Speaker 1: minutes earlier.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, based on your alarm, you called
Speaker 2: me at a thirty on the dot, and you called
Speaker 2: me I was already five minutes from where I needed
Speaker 2: to be at at this point. I didn't know that exactly.
Speaker 2: So why are you sending me this follow up?
Speaker 1: As I wanted to make sure that you were good,
Speaker 1: if you'd call me and say that's actually you good?
Speaker 3: Simple?
Speaker 2: Is that? No? Simple? Is that I just want to
Speaker 2: make sure or really, all I needed to hear from
Speaker 2: Tammy was girl, my bad. I was sleeping. I know,
Speaker 2: you was coming this time period. That's it, but it's
Speaker 2: not anything extra is not my bad. Listen, even if
Speaker 2: you feel like it's not your bad, Tammy, I feel
Speaker 2: like if mine of my friends were to kind of
Speaker 2: even if we're not friends, I feel like if one
Speaker 2: of my people come to my house or if I
Speaker 2: didn't show up in a way that I needed to
Speaker 2: or they felt like I needed to, it is my
Speaker 2: bad every time I need to. Oh God, I gotta
Speaker 2: be real careful with the words I guess. No, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say show up like I'm not saying
Speaker 2: show up like I need you to. I never need you,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't need a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 3: I handle my life.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. So it's don't ever think
Speaker 2: it's like, uh, oh, you didn't show up for me
Speaker 2: in any way. That's not what I mean. What I'm
Speaker 2: saying is if we had something planned, plans change at
Speaker 2: a little piece of little time, to change piece of
Speaker 2: time one hour piece of time. Okay, we're going to circles, y'all,
Speaker 2: But y'all get the gist of it. Let us know
Speaker 2: this is the type of ship that happened at friendships,
Speaker 2: business whatever.
Speaker 3: Tell me what I did wrong?
Speaker 1: Okay, please, I would appreciate it because I don't want
Speaker 1: to do it again.
Speaker 2: Keep the extra commentary, that's what you do. Don't do
Speaker 2: that again. That's it. Just keep the extra thing. Move on, girl,
Speaker 2: what you wearing so we can coordinate? And then that's
Speaker 2: what we kind of flowy today, like yeah, usually you
Speaker 2: have on a low two piece number and I might
Speaker 2: have on a tracksuit like that's just yes. So now
Speaker 2: here we are, y'all. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can this woman? Y'all? Lord have mercy.
Speaker 2: I need some I need This is why I need
Speaker 2: some dick in my life. Right here? You got a rose,
Speaker 2: tap into the rose. Anyway, we're gonna follow up on
Speaker 2: this single shaker, bitch, I got a whole lot of notes.
Speaker 1: That was the apisode. Bitch, that was the apisode. Say
Speaker 1: thank you God, bless you, good night.
Speaker 2: I'm opposed to text messages. That's the next part of
Speaker 2: this cident, y'all. Can y'all can read them too and
Speaker 2: interpret it? Let us know what your perception is. How
Speaker 2: do you perceive these messages? How do you perceive the
Speaker 2: situation after here in this episode? Y'all? And if you
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