WEBVTT - Paige Dimakos 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John And this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.319 is cut to it. Good do it? Good do they's 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.880 getting down to do it? Good do it. We asked 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.120 the questions you always want to know, but no one 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:29.200 ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard them 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:34.680 about it? Then we're about to let you know it's 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:49.519 all there's nothing media guys, Yeah, what up? What's going on? 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.320 My man? How you doing? Ugly? I mean drawing you 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.840 wasn't reference any son been somewhere else in one of 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.760 these was definitely not me. We we were really good 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.360 for but you know, as guys were talking about, we 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.440 call each other ugly. So for sure, that's just that's 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.760 our that's our running thing. What's what's been going on? Man? 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.920 Let me tell you what happened when everyone whenever someone 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.360 started story. Man, let me tell you what happened. It's 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.520 gonna be a good one. Oh it's burner right, so 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.760 your bird man. So you know, I'm becoming more and 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.080 more handy as I've gotten older because of my business venture. 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.119 So I you know, I like doing some stuff around 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.640 the house. And so with the winter and fall coming 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.360 or is here, you get a lot of leaves now 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:45.360 in my gutters and it was raining. So in the 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.760 summer it was raining and so so many leaves blew in. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:53.920 So I literally had the rain going over overflowing and 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:58.200 my gutter going into my screening porch but going into 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.040 where water it was starting, like lot of water was 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:05.520 accumulation and just no, no, the water was flowing flowing 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.200 into my screening porch to like in there, and then 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.480 it was starting and I'm like, what is all this water? 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.560 So I figured it out. So yes, I got on 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:18.200 top of the roof and I got the no, I 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.239 got the leaves out. So I'm like, you know what, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.399 I ain't doing this because it's gonna get dangerous, right 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.880 and it was raining, and um, so I did it, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:28.799 and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna get 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.359 some some gotta guards. So I went through and went 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.560 on read some websites and I think I did Angie 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.320 Less or something, and the guy comes to the house. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.000 So I made the appointment totally space. They forgot about 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.680 the appointment. So I got this, Um, you know, I'm 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.560 hood dude. I grew up in that life. So I 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.799 got this this dude that gets out of a kind 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:55.720 of like a a Ford impolo or Caprice like. He 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.320 gets out of Yeah, he gets out out of the 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.120 he put up in a box chef he bro. He 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.720 came out. He basically looked like a narc right. He 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.240 came out looking like a police officer. Bro, I'm just 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.480 talking about. Just give me a context. He looked like 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.440 he was he was a police arm like. And so 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:17.640 the guy's like, hey r. So he comes He's like, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.079 oh yeah, yeah, I'm here for the you know what, 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.600 for your for your gutters too. I was like, oh yeah, okay. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.160 So she says, hey, I'm gonna go behind back and 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.359 I got two signs. I got a dog and it 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.360 says beware of dogs on another one. Another one says 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.480 I can get to the fence in two point eight seconds, 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.360 can you? So I got those up, and he's like, 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.120 I see your signs, dogs up, and so put the 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.800 dog up. And so he goes over there and so 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:51.240 he does his spill, and here's where it goes wrong. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.800 He says, hey, you only have a few of these. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.680 Let me tell you what it is. And here's what 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.640 we do, and gives a spill on why this company 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.040 is very good, we have a lifetime blah blah blah, 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.720 all this stuff, and I said all right. So the 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.120 dude says all right. I said, well, all right, cool, 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.720 get to it. Cut to it, cut it right. So 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.360 he gets to it and he says, well, um, do 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.200 you have a budget. And I'm like, nah, I don't 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.360 have a budget because it's just covering the It ain't 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.799 gonna be that much. How much you think my man said, uh, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:36.320 should be a simple job with three hundred What kind 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.600 of house you live? Man? Suck? He just removing that. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.680 I don't know. He puts cards on the gutters, on 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.679 the whole house. Okay, you tell me. So I thought 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:49.599 it was probably like Huntred this you just get popped 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.120 out of a box shape. He So it didn't seem 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.000 like he's a hot dollar dude, or listen, you could 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.120 be a great salesman, just be bad with your finances, right, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:05.520 This dude says sixteen thousand, seven hundred dollars sixteen thousand, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:15.440 six sixteen sixteen thousand, seven hundred. I said, He goes, well, 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.120 what did you think it was gonna be? I said, 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.719 not that he says, well, what did you think? He goes, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.760 why are you looking at me like that? I said, well, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.880 I'm totally shocked, and then he goes so then he 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.000 tries to play the game, and this is where where 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.400 they ran off the rails. Right. He goes, well, I 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.839 gave you a discount, but that was a discount. He said, 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.640 I gave you a discount and some of this stuff, 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:47.320 and I was like all right, and then he says, well, 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:52.200 I got something, and he goes, let me call my boss. Oh, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.240 so he tries the old car salesman move. Now I'm 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.080 getting pissed and irritated because he I'm sure he shot 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.920 his shot with he shot he shot. Let me tell 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.680 you some he shot at the wrong dude with his shot. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.080 So he calls his boss and he puts me on speaker. Hey, boss, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.640 I gotta I got a customer um in this neighborhood. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.200 And um, you know, he's a little bit taken back 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.400 by the price. And then he goes back and he's 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.800 like well, and his boss goes, well, I mean it 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.800 sounds like you've done all that you can do, and 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:30.560 what do you what do you think we should do? Yeah, 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.280 and he says what do you think we should do? 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.080 He was like, well, you know, it's just a neighborhood 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.520 that we've been in before. No, well you think we can, um, 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.400 you know, put up some signs. You think we'll get 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.480 some traction if we utilize this. I said, hey, dog, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.160 I don't know what y'all doing. Cut this ship up, man, 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:55.200 stop and I feel my blood pressure balling. Oh I'm cooking. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.920 But then I realized this dude is on my porch. 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:07.400 The realization started setting in. So for whoop his ass? 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:12.240 Technically it's all my property. So here is he a trespass? Right? 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.440 And then a white And I said, you know what, 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.080 let me go on the house and go get tigues. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.720 My my my Belgian malin wild who speaks another language 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:24.760 to give her commands. Dog speak another language and Asian 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.240 nine got a little, got a little, got a little language. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:32.360 Fus right, I mean he's follow and so uh, I 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:38.360 gotta take the dog out two poop m Do you 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:43.800 know why? Because they said some ship exactly, So I 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.680 take her go out. He goes well, I said, listen, bro, 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:48.840 all this stuff that you're doing right now, I said, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.120 it's uncalled for. I ain't got time for this. I'm 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.960 about to take my dog to use your bathroom, and 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.800 when you finish, put your ship right there. And then 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.840 I got my chip I'm picking up, so gonna take 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.760 yourself on off my porch because um, this ain't gonna work. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.480 So he leaves and he goes, well, you know, um, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.960 we were able to work some things out and and 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:19.040 and I got a lower price. Really, He's like, USA, okay, 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:23.600 so here's the here's the real price. So then he 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.640 noticed I didn't pick up the folder, so he comes 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:32.360 back to hand me the folder. So I'm growing a 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.000 little bit, not in height, but just a majority. I 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.920 take the folder and I look at it. How much 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.600 do you think he changed the price? And we're gonna 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.320 bring in our producer, Meredith, Meredith, get on the mic. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:51.679 How much do you think that sixteen thous dollar estimate 0:08:52.160 --> 0:09:01.840 is now? After I have taken Tiga to take a poop? Oh, 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:13.080 you are incorrect? What is your price? Close prices? Right? 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:21.079 My man dropped it down to six thousand dollars? You 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:27.199 got robbed? How how bad is that? You go from 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:31.800 sixteen to six that's that's ten tho dollars now. When 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.600 I looked it up and I put my square footage 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:41.720 in there. Bro, it's already like did you fear taking 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:46.280 advantage of? Hell? Yeah, I took it. I felt as happened. Man, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.560 there's the what do they say, the expensive neighborhood price, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.040 and then there's the athlete neighborhood, and I'm talking about Yeah, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.960 that's he was about to get that whoop as price. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.480 That's what he was about to which is free. That's 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.240 where I'm from. It's like, no, yeah, you can have that. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:03.800 Go ahead, Mr Smith, you can have it. That's what 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.800 I thought. Now I'm talking about the alright you and 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.920 this is going to be my price. I've I get 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.480 that all the time to be honest, and people get 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.080 offitted because I say, you know, I usually get three quotes, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:22.040 give me the cheapest, give me one nbtwin, and get 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.360 me the best, and nine times out of ten, I'm 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.760 gonna get the middle, right, that's just me negotiations. Yeah, 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.360 but he said, I don't even understand. I was like, man, 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:33.840 and I went and looked it up and look at 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:39.080 my square footage, and it just was crazy to me. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:43.160 How you can how can you drop a price almost 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.320 ten to eleven thousand dollars? Someone thought they're gonna get 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.080 ten stacks out of you. That's why he was gonna 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.520 get you. Only ten stack he would get. That was 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.960 a lawsuit ten stacks. He ain't getting no ten stacks 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.440 like that. Come on, man, just to cover my guttess? 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:01.760 Are they gold? I looked man, I was human. I 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.280 bet you were. I was hot. I know you well enough, 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.040 I know you were cooking. So trying to take advantage 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.160 of you and look me at my eyes, that's a 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.640 that's just a low down, dirty shame. Yeah, he might 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:19.120 be a big old dummy. He went ready for it. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:27.440 Ban you didn't prep that one, all right? Who do 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.720 we have next for the podcast? Coming up to the 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.640 Cut to It podcast? Paige Demacos. She's the chief operating 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:38.120 officer of the Draft Network. She's co host of the 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.840 t d in Fantasy podcast, and she makes a mean 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:53.920 Greek chicken page. Demarcos gonna cut to a podcast. Thank 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.320 you guys for having me. I'm I'm excited to be here. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.040 I checked out what you guys got going on, so 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.360 I'm excited to be here. If you're cool with it, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.000 We're just going to introduce our first segment. It's our 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.440 icebreaker it's called get iced up. There random questions, so 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.560 you don't know what's going on. Hey, I don't even 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.600 know what's going on. Smithy is gonna give you these 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.719 random icebreakers, and let's get to it where it's the 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:18.880 strangest place you've ever fallen asleep, probably standing up in 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.360 the back of a classroom. I can remember this so 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.400 vividly too. I was so exhausted, almost like one of 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.800 those college forty eight hours no sleep, standing in the 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.559 back of the classroom. I was hosting our election coverage 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.600 and I was standing in the back as a host, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.439 and I straight up fell asleep. It was not good. Well, 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.440 you were leaning against the wall at least correct, I 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.720 was leaning against the wall. But the reason that I 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.120 woke up is because I almost really hurt myself falling over. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.160 So that's that's how I woke up. It was not 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.120 my most graceful moment, and I definitely was embarrassed because 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.199 I was hosting the show and definitely should have been 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.720 way more present in that moment. So it was definitely 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:01.400 not my finest moment. What's something you that always makes 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.200 you laugh? Uh? Does it? Can you be my It's 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.840 got to be a person so it's my brother. Uh. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.600 If you know anything about my brother, he's legitimately the 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.839 funniest person that I've ever met. Uh. And he's a big, 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.720 goofy basketball player and he used to be he played 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.720 D one basketball, but he was so short and stubby 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.079 his whole life that he got to be the like, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.400 the funny guy for a long time. And now he's 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.160 six six, so like he he was the short, dorky 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.920 guy for a long time, and then he grew up, 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.360 and he grew up like way late, and like a 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.920 junior in high school, he finally got tall, but he 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.480 was the dorky kind of friend that everybody kind of 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.520 liked because he was shortened and stubby, and and he's 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.720 always been funny because of that. So it's definitely my brother. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:47.640 If you are a color, what would you be? And why? Uh? 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:52.480 Thirillian blue? This is very easy. The reason that I 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.640 said Sirillian blue is because I'm Greek. If he didn't 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.440 couldn't tell. My last name is Demacos. My dad's first 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.600 name is Plato, So I'm Greek. Greek guys like very Greek. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.240 The top of the domes in Santorini are Siillian blue, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.280 so if you've ever seen a photo of the beautiful 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:13.679 churches in Santorini, those churches are a very specific color 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.480 and it is Thrillian blue. So that is the blue 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.520 I'm talking about. All right, So here in the hood, 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:25.040 I only got about the tin in my box of crayons, 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:29.960 which right scott blue, royal blue, dark blue. Maybe a 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:35.160 hundred's there, but they in the box I got for 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:40.600 some reason. I remember periwinkle is that right at? Boxer 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.480 was in there? Now now mount I'm smooth out of all. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:50.960 I got a green, yellow, red blue. I love it. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:56.920 My wife is her favorite colors. Deal, Okay, bluish green. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.600 You guys are having such a such a dude answer. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.080 It's like it's like a midway point, like kind of 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.040 like a green blue, and you're like, dude, just use 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.160 your eyes like describe some things. It's just a dude answer, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.000 Like that's that's what you guys are giving me back. 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.880 So you're gonna RaSE me. I'm gonna RaSE you right back. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.440 That's cool. I'm just I'm just one of our producers 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:20.840 just held up. This is this is the bluesting Yeah, 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:31.440 she googled it though, Google you go away for a 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:35.880 screen blue. All right, here we go, last one. Are 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.960 you ready? I'm ready? All right, what's the hardest class 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:44.040 you ever took? The hardest class I ever took, It's 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.560 gotta be uh Stats two oh three? In college. It 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.640 was a math class, and since I'm a journalist, I 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.400 wanted to avoid mathematics and science as much as I 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:01.359 possibly could. And it was a bear is. The professor 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.480 was a lot of words that I'm not going to 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.560 use on the podcast, but yeah, let's go with the 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.920 word unique. Um. He was not a very nice person 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.120 and the class was absolutely horrible. And it's the only 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:17.080 class I've ever almost failed, so it was not not 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.800 ideal for me. Uh And I hate math. Almost failed 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.280 as in a D because I got a D in statistics. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.640 I'm up front, I got I gotta C minus and 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.000 that's only because I had to do like all the 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.360 extra credit to get myself to C minus. Like I 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.520 was failing all the tests man like it was. It 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.760 was not good mine with statistics as well. I took 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.080 him my senior year. Thank god, I was invited to 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.160 the Shrine game and I got to drop the class. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:48.600 You got out of it? Out of it? I played 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.520 in the shrine and then the hula, and they were 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.600 back to back, So I missed the first two weeks. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.880 Not that it would have changed anything, but that was 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.160 my static. That's a story that I'm going with too 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.200 calcula see when I got an f in that bad 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:11.960 I failed, that was fine, tub on it. Where are 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:16.440 you from in a place you call your hometown? I'm 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:22.080 from Chicago, Illinois, Guys. I think everyone's aware of of Chicago. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.359 But if you're aware of if you're a Chicago and 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.359 you're listening to the podcast, you're probably gonna ask where 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.760 in Chicago. So I lived very close to Greek Town, 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.399 which is ironic since uh I'm very Greek, and I 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.920 always joke with my family that we chose that because 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.280 it was near Greektown. But if you've ever been near 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.040 the U C near where the Bulls play used to be, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.280 uh not a not a great area. It was a 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.359 little bit of a tough neighborhood when I was growing up. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.600 It's a lot nicer now. But I lived across from 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.080 the street from a warehouse and now they're like beautiful building. 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.200 So that's where I grew up. Grew up in Chicago. Uh, 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.120 greatest city. Love Chicago, our social media manager and my 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:03.480 son went to the Paul. Yeah, right there, So how 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:07.200 far is that from DePaul? Right there in the city, 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.960 So De Paul's more north. So De Paul is close 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.600 to where Lincoln Park areas, which is a little bit 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.720 nicer area than than where than where we were, So 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.159 we were kind of like right off. If you know 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.440 where the Kennedy is, the ninety the Highway, you're right there, 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.120 Loop a little bit further south right between basically where 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.119 the Loop and and the United Center is, so the 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.760 dumb and Roe Street. What was your experiences like it 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.320 growing up there? I love growing up in the city. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.720 I think as a kid, it's really it's really cool 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.000 to be able to be in a city is diverse 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.520 as Chicago, right, so you had every different kind of 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.200 person and food, and I just loved being totally immersed 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.800 in that. My family, as I said, is Greek, so 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.439 uh first generation here, so we spent a lot of 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.680 time uh the Greek church downtown, which was awesome for me. 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.879 Like like being able to grow up there. Chicago's hoops 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.639 Steen is amazing. So being able to be around that 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.359 my whole life was always really cool. Um and just 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.520 being a city kid, right, Like being able to like 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.119 take the train and and go down to the beach 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.120 and do things like we used to. We had see 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.320 the tickets to Soldier Field, so we would walk, you know, 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.840 the very long walk a couple of miles every Sunday 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.840 with my dad, which is good memories. But just growing 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.240 up being able to spend time in the city, I 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.960 guess differentiates you from what I was. The suburb kids 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.520 that we always kind of joke with when they stay 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.080 there from Chicago, but they're actually from like Naperville, which 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.520 is in Chicago. Those are my experiences. I love growing 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.639 up in the city. Um, and I miss I do 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.000 miss Chicago a lot, especially just like the area that 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.840 I grew up in. What were your early experiences around 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.199 sports are? What are some of your earliest and fondest 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:51.280 memories growing up in Chicago in the nineties of the 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.320 No one better than growing up around Michael Jordan's right, 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.920 So we grew up not too far from his palace, 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.920 got to go watch some of his game as a 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.600 as a really little kid, and uh, just those memories, 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.880 like that's that's what I felt. That's where I fell 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:08.719 in love with sports, Like I fell in love with 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.080 sports because of Michael Jordan's because I grew up in 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.280 that city and in the nineties, it was all m 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.919 J all the time. That's all you talked about. That's 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.399 all you cared about. Every Christmas card we ever took. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.959 I have the receipts is us in bold jerseys, like 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.040 from the time I was born until I was fifteen, Like, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.320 that's what we did as a family. We named our 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:34.720 dog Paxson after John Paxson, like we're like, I mean, 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.680 like all in on the bulls as a family. So 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:42.320 we definitely were all wrapped up in that. And that's 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.920 what made me fall in love with sports, watching MJ, 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:49.200 watching his craft and talking smack learning what that meant. Right. 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:50.879 I made a sign when I was a kid that 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.679 said the mailman don't deliver on Sunday, So that was 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.840 smack talk all of my first smack talk to Karl Malone, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.960 did you take that to the game? Were you just like, yeah, 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.760 oh yeah. There is an epic photo of me as 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.360 a kid with the sign, and I'm like seven, right, 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.840 seven or eight, and I have the sign just straight 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.680 up and it says the mail man don't deliver on Sunday, 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.880 and I was like, yeah, I was, I would fit 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.480 talking at that age. Okay, alright, that makes a lot 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.200 of sense. Okay, cool when you saw the Last Dance 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.120 the documentary, what did it? What did it stir up 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.080 in you? From those memories of of growing up and 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:28.880 then seeing it replay? Oh yeah, so much nostalgia watching 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.600 uh watching that, and also really cool because being able 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:34.720 to now watch it. You know, I don't I don't 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:37.359 remember any of the early years because I either wasn't 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.000 alive obviously when he was first drafted, and then I 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.800 was really young. I really only remember, and so I 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.120 remember the you know, the last part of it. So 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:50.600 the being able to watch it, knowing the lens and 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.320 how important and how cool it was as a kid, 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.879 and then watching it now was so unbelievable. All the 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.040 all the cool gear, all the warm ups everything. I 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.160 was like, I want every bull's warm up, I want 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.560 every bull's had, I want it. Like the whole time, 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.760 I'm like, this is unbelievable. The music, the and then 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.919 thinking about it now as being in sports media and 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:15.520 thinking about how insane it would be coverage wise, right, 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:19.120 how much coverage Michael got then, but how much more 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:24.200 coverage he would get. Now, Yes, it would be insane, right, 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.119 and and that that was cool to think about it 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.720 that way because I think everybody, everybody a little taste 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:31.560 of it with the Warriors, and everyone's like, how many, 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.600 how many championships they're gonna win? How many? And the 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:36.760 didn't sniff what the Bulls did, right, and everybody started 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.120 to hate that team. And so I was thinking about 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.040 it was like, man, I would be so obnoxious if 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.160 the Bulls were this team now, like I would be 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.920 I would be so stupid on social media. And it's 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.840 probably a good thing because it would be uh, I'd 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.000 be dunking on people left and right if Michael Jordan 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.320 was playing now with so think about but then think 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.840 about how Polariz would be too. Like you you mentioned 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.879 you didn't necessarily see m in the early years, But 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.199 remember m J didn't always deliver, right, It took a 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:08.440 while up until the but like eighties, MJ. But I'm 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.000 I'm with you now, you right, But also think about 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.240 how many times he didn't deliver and what we where 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.240 we criticize Lebron right now, what's his what's his record? 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.439 What was MJ's record before he got to those six finals, 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.400 he went undefeated, but there was a long time before 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.280 he got past the pistons to where how how polarizing 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.920 would it be then on social media? To your point? 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.639 Oh yeah, I mean nuts? Right now, Right, there's no 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:37.880 the first and foremost, there is absolutely no chance that 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:41.840