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Speaker 5: to our coon saw stampeding to another victory.
Speaker 1: They looked too young.
Speaker 6: Someone's got a known.
Speaker 5: Ah, Yes, here it is. It's already Thursday of Seahawks
Speaker 5: Week inside the SWBC podcast studio. And we all made
Speaker 5: it safely back from the Thanksgiving holiday? How is everybody?
Speaker 1: And that was a stampede we saw it was.
Speaker 5: It seems like a long time ago.
Speaker 4: Now. I am tired, we all did. I am tired, man.
Speaker 5: Tired from your holiday weekend work.
Speaker 4: Though it was work, it was to buy you.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had to walk all up down down street. Boy,
Speaker 3: my calves are killing me, pork kid.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then we lost too in dramatic fashion. But we
Speaker 3: lost the one yard line. Come on, man, we lose
Speaker 3: the one yard line?
Speaker 1: What do you mean you lost at the one yard
Speaker 1: We couldn't punch it in.
Speaker 3: We were Yeah, we were like the Cowboys versus what
Speaker 3: the Browns? Was it back in nineteen ninety four? Think
Speaker 3: it was I couldn't.
Speaker 5: Try ran out before they could run another place the
Speaker 5: way it.
Speaker 1: Happened, but we decided you won halftime?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, he didn't even watch it a half time.
Speaker 3: No halftime is that's that's you know, as much of
Speaker 3: a spectacle as the game.
Speaker 5: Would you rather lose that way or lose the way
Speaker 5: Auburn lost?
Speaker 3: Man one, I've kind of lost like Auburn lost in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's kind of happened before I know what
Speaker 4: they feel.
Speaker 1: So that was the last play, right, the last play,
Speaker 1: very last play, the very last play. So what were
Speaker 1: they doing in like man coverage?
Speaker 5: I didn't watch it live. I wouldn't sure what was I.
Speaker 4: Don't know if it was a man coverage. It wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't man coverage. The guy just matched up with him.
Speaker 3: It wasn't man coverage. I think he just matched up
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 5: Because the quarterback floated out to the left. Now it's
Speaker 5: scrambled to this guy, but CD doing his thing. What's
Speaker 5: that unscrambled drill CD gets open, and so that wide
Speaker 5: receiver found an opening in the Exactly.
Speaker 1: Why don't not have the weapon guys across this goal line?
Speaker 3: First of all, you don't need to have nine guys
Speaker 3: back there rushing too. You can't give a quarterback all
Speaker 3: the time in the world. You gotta give pressure so
Speaker 3: that they don't.
Speaker 4: Von Rodgers. You can't do that.
Speaker 5: The same thing happened in the Eagles game yesterday where
Speaker 5: Jay back of the end zone and then you got
Speaker 5: Micah Hyde and Poyer, who the two of the best defense.
Speaker 5: Now they're Buffalo missing their best defensive back. He's been
Speaker 5: out all year.
Speaker 3: White h but he looked like a little teenager back there,
Speaker 3: and he treated him like a teenager I've never seen. Hey,
Speaker 3: I don't understand why he was so meek, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. He left the guy push off on it.
Speaker 3: He just looked like he wasn't ready for the ball
Speaker 3: to come. I mean, this is what you're supposed to
Speaker 3: be ready for. He acts like he wasn't ready at all.
Speaker 3: You know, the jump was meek, the effort was was
Speaker 3: was meek to me was I was very surprised that
Speaker 3: he was a veteran defensive back.
Speaker 4: He played like a rookie on that play.
Speaker 1: Do you realize, I know, we haven't got into what
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get in.
Speaker 4: Who cares?
Speaker 1: But do uh? The Cowboys are like two makeable plays
Speaker 1: from being tied for first base place. Right Yep? The
Speaker 1: Kansas City game, guy does it catch the winning touchdown
Speaker 1: pass at.
Speaker 8: The goal line.
Speaker 1: And then in this game, the guy's wide open in
Speaker 1: the end zone and he looks left and the past
Speaker 1: goes right and he doesn't turn and around soon enough.
Speaker 1: If he turns around, he could have adjusted right. And
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there going, what are you doing? But it's
Speaker 1: two plays. They would be three losses right now, and
Speaker 1: yet they continue to find ways to win they do.
Speaker 4: You have to respect that now respect We're.
Speaker 5: About to find out the next two weeks just how
Speaker 5: good Philadelphia really is.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 6: But the efficient officiating yesterday, that's.
Speaker 9: What got me.
Speaker 4: That's what got They've been blessed.
Speaker 1: Every time the game playing at home.
Speaker 10: They just I don't know the officiating. There was a
Speaker 10: couple of calls yesterday that weren't.
Speaker 1: They Oh, but I I got to tell you this
Speaker 1: stuff because it was hilarious. So I'm coming back from here.
Speaker 1: It was not quite halftime of the game, and I'm
Speaker 1: listening to serious radio, and so I'm listening to the
Speaker 1: Eagles broadcast of the first half.
Speaker 5: I was listening to some of that.
Speaker 1: Did you listen to the part when they ran they
Speaker 1: were they were struggling on offense, right, and it's it
Speaker 1: was the Philadelphia Network broadcast.
Speaker 5: Merl on w I T right, and it was plegendary.
Speaker 1: They're struggling on offense and they called like a quarterback
Speaker 1: run and it didn't work, got stopped for like zero
Speaker 1: yards or one yard, and the adalys goes, Boy was
Speaker 1: that week he didn't like the play call?
Speaker 5: Was that my quicklia?
Speaker 7: But it was?
Speaker 1: And there was this Philadelphia Northeast kind of matter of
Speaker 1: fact of broadcasting the game. Right, they came back from
Speaker 1: break and it was just before halftime, and it's been
Speaker 1: pouring down rain, right, just pouring down rain, and the
Speaker 1: play by play goes, guy goes. I don't know about you, guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking this Philadelphia offense is about as dreary
Speaker 1: as the weather. And I just started laughing, like they
Speaker 1: were giving them hell on their own broadcast.
Speaker 5: Well that's that's what I actually heard. I think I
Speaker 5: heard this right. It hurts through an interception. I was
Speaker 5: on the elliptical at the time, so I wasn't watching.
Speaker 5: I missed that, but I Merril Reese said, as they
Speaker 5: came back from a break, said, what chances do you
Speaker 5: give us of winning this game the way this thing
Speaker 5: is started without Lamee Johnson. Yes, and there's been three sacks,
Speaker 5: and what chance do you have of us getting this
Speaker 5: win today? And about that time hurts through an interception.
Speaker 5: My quick Quick said, well, if you would have asked
Speaker 5: me that before he through the interception, I'd say a
Speaker 5: good chance. But now I don't think so.
Speaker 1: And then he and then later quick goes, Quick goes,
Speaker 1: we got more problems than Lane Johnson's. And yet and
Speaker 1: yet they came getting back and one. So here we are, and.
Speaker 5: Here we are with a Cowboys on the practice field again,
Speaker 5: because it is a regular work week for the Cowboys
Speaker 5: from Thursday to Thursday, which makes this Thursday of their week. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 5: and confusing is that?
Speaker 1: And they were here on Wednesday on Sunday, by the way,
Speaker 1: and there.
Speaker 10: Was a two of us here by the way, Yes,
Speaker 10: oh yeah, Nicky, and I had to text him yesterday
Speaker 10: morning to make sure we were going to be there
Speaker 10: for Wednesday. Yesterday, so we came up to the facility yesterday,
Speaker 10: went into the locker room, talked to a few guys
Speaker 10: press conference later.
Speaker 1: On emphasis on few Bland Yes, yes, and Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I actually waited for that.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 1: That's why I was watching the game here the first
Speaker 1: half of the okay, or I started watching, No, I
Speaker 1: was watching New Orleans in Atlanta, Atlanta. Yeah, that New
Speaker 1: Orleans couldn't figure out how to see.
Speaker 5: That shows how that shows how weak the schedule was
Speaker 5: on Fox on Sunday. That was the best, the best
Speaker 5: noon game they could find this end of the nation
Speaker 5: was New Orleans Atlanta. That's what happens when you played
Speaker 5: three games on Thursday and one on Friday and then
Speaker 5: have the regular Monday night game. But it was a
Speaker 5: good game on Jacksonville and Houston on CBS yesterday. I
Speaker 5: watched it, and then the decision had to be made
Speaker 5: by our people at CBS whether to give the locals
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Buffalo, which was an easy decision, or Kansas City
Speaker 5: and Las Vegas, which made my Texas tech grad wife
Speaker 5: not very not happy.
Speaker 1: But that one so, but having said that, we did
Speaker 1: have a game on Thursday, didn't we?
Speaker 5: Yes, we did, and what a game it was? Yes, well,
Speaker 5: the whole day was fun.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a Thanksgiving game that kind of brought
Speaker 1: so much joy to so many people in so many
Speaker 1: different respects. Right between Okay, the Cowboys winning by a bundle,
Speaker 1: Doron Bland breaking the record, the Salvation Army, Red Kettle's
Speaker 1: jump ins and turkey legs, and then Dolly, how did
Speaker 1: Jerry describe it better than one of the best days
Speaker 1: I've had in my Cowboys history? And somebody said the
Speaker 1: Super Bowls that he goes might have been better, and
Speaker 1: that's how Cowboys nation.
Speaker 4: That can't be true.
Speaker 5: Well, it was he was caught up in the moment,
Speaker 5: the win and the wind.
Speaker 4: Wasn't this time in his life right at eighty plus
Speaker 4: years old. I mean, yeah, I think he means it.
Speaker 4: It means it means a lot because of where he
Speaker 4: is in his life.
Speaker 1: And it was the whole atmosphere, the whole thing. Dolly
Speaker 1: coming out cheerleader.
Speaker 4: Did you know that? Well, that's kind of that's kind
Speaker 4: of how he made I.
Speaker 6: May have had an idea, you might have had an idea.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 1: It just made everybody smile, right, I mean, it was
Speaker 1: just she's so genuine and yeah, it was a pretty
Speaker 1: neat day.
Speaker 3: And the return was how about that? Pretty damn impressive?
Speaker 3: So when did he play wide receiver in high school
Speaker 3: or did he play in college?
Speaker 6: It was he said in high school when we talked
Speaker 6: to him, he had to be.
Speaker 5: Pretty But on his college bio at Fresno because he
Speaker 5: was at three years at Sacramento State and then he
Speaker 5: was at Fresno State, and it said nothing on his
Speaker 5: collegiate bio, it says nothing about anything in offense in
Speaker 5: high school. Doesn't mean he didn't play offense in high school.
Speaker 5: He obviously said he offense, but he was known as
Speaker 5: a defensive player even in high school, so he played
Speaker 5: both ways in high school.
Speaker 1: Well, he saw the interception coming from a mile away, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was easy.
Speaker 5: It was getting that was the easy. The crowd roar,
Speaker 5: the crowd roar when he split through the three that
Speaker 5: Washington players line that was there was that, There was
Speaker 5: the crowd roar. There was the crowd roar when he
Speaker 5: had the pick. Okay, at the everyone okay, and then
Speaker 5: it kind of dies down. Again again, and then when
Speaker 5: he broke through the three Washington players at the ten
Speaker 5: yard line, I thought Corey Seeger hit another home run
Speaker 5: because it was an extra O. The crowd roar and
Speaker 5: it was that became the greatest day in Cowboys history.
Speaker 4: At that point.
Speaker 1: Anybody when he talked about it, it was like, well,
Speaker 1: what were you thinking when you picked the ball off?
Speaker 1: And he goes, let's go, let's go get it, and
Speaker 1: so it was like, okay, but he's not going to
Speaker 1: get by the corn.
Speaker 5: You got three people, man, I don't and I don't
Speaker 5: care if those three people have never made a tackle
Speaker 5: in their lives. There are still three people.
Speaker 4: And they looked like theys.
Speaker 1: And mister Humble decided I'm going to celebrate. So he
Speaker 1: spikes the ball right and then everybody else gets there
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, no, you're going in the kettle.
Speaker 1: But but what stood out to me in the end
Speaker 1: zone it was a fifth round pick, Duran Bland and
Speaker 1: two former rookie free agents, Janye Thomas and Marquise Bell
Speaker 1: were in the end zone. And I saw that and
Speaker 1: I said, somebody needs a picture of that. Look where
Speaker 1: these three guys came from, and look where they are
Speaker 1: right now, and they made sure they got him in
Speaker 1: the red kettle.
Speaker 5: Like that would be like a picture of Cliff Harris,
Speaker 5: Drew Pearson and ever Wall. Yes.
Speaker 1: Uh, they and then planning the turkey legs in there
Speaker 1: and the whole bit.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 3: I was actually with Marquise's relative, the one that in
Speaker 3: the beginning told me, and so I was. I visited
Speaker 3: her this weekend along with my wife, so to be
Speaker 3: able to you know, she doesn't watch much football, but
Speaker 3: to be able to tell her, Marquise Bell, your your
Speaker 3: cousin is a starter for the Dallas Cowboys right now.
Speaker 3: So all the concern that they had about him early
Speaker 3: on in training camp, you know, because he's kind of
Speaker 3: introverted type of guy. Uh, they are feeling so proud
Speaker 3: of him right now because you know, he's not his
Speaker 3: journey's not over, but he's definitely far ahead of where
Speaker 3: he thought he would be.
Speaker 4: At this point.
Speaker 1: His introversion is starting to lift. Actually, command uh, an
Speaker 1: interview with a bunch of people around and do well excellent?
Speaker 4: Excellent.
Speaker 5: I wonder who did well on our picks this past week.
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Speaker 5: Okay, so much to get to looking ahead to Seattle
Speaker 5: on Thursday, and so much to get to looking back
Speaker 5: at Thursday, since this is our first time to get
Speaker 5: together since then, and we want to look at our
Speaker 5: picks first. Get that out of the worst.
Speaker 1: I think so, I think we all do.
Speaker 10: Bring in a producer Supreme here to just remind us
Speaker 10: all of our pod picks.
Speaker 4: Up a lot.
Speaker 5: That was the score of the game.
Speaker 4: Is that the game score of the game?
Speaker 6: Should we start there?
Speaker 5: Producer Supreme has it? Hum?
Speaker 1: Okay, well I remember mine, I betana has it?
Speaker 4: I have? Oh Everson, my score was thirty five to twenty. No,
Speaker 4: no good.
Speaker 3: Savannah's score let me say this, spag score was thirty
Speaker 3: to seventeen.
Speaker 4: No good, no good. You know you can't go over
Speaker 4: when you predict this.
Speaker 3: You can't go over what you go on like yours
Speaker 3: is right, Yes, it's true with this like now you're
Speaker 3: changing the rules.
Speaker 4: Us have never been changed. Bill had fifty two to
Speaker 4: twenty on.
Speaker 5: Second wait thirty No, that was the first game on
Speaker 5: second thought, right, No, it was first. I picked a
Speaker 5: click was there? So that's a thirty two point margin? Okay,
Speaker 5: go ahead, Yeah, but they won thirty five?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: No, their score was only forty five forty five yours,
Speaker 3: which means that you you are also okay, let's geta However,
Speaker 3: she might have doubled up on US.
Speaker 4: Forty to fourteen, pretty damn.
Speaker 5: Close twenty six point win.
Speaker 4: And I when I we have a little you know,
Speaker 4: three way uh which.
Speaker 13: Which by the way, Savannah I said, I said we
Speaker 13: need to add to Savannah to our agree.
Speaker 3: I was the one that said, hey, guys, give me
Speaker 3: Savannah's number, which.
Speaker 6: All said one that reached out.
Speaker 3: And then that's where Bill comes after the fact, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: hey number. So also and she said Turpin would get
Speaker 3: a touchdown. Now that when it's little because she said
Speaker 3: correct specifically said special teams.
Speaker 6: I did want a special teams touch He did have
Speaker 6: a touchdown.
Speaker 4: Amazing.
Speaker 3: That was we're ready to kind of give you that.
Speaker 3: But okay, Spag said d Law would have multiple sacks.
Speaker 4: Did that happen?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, so you you blew it on both both points.
Speaker 3: Bill said Marquis would have a touchdown.
Speaker 4: I changed it. I changed that one to what I
Speaker 4: changed it to.
Speaker 5: I changed it because no Mickey knows, I changed it
Speaker 5: later that day.
Speaker 13: Later that day, I said on our group text, which
Speaker 13: you aren't a part of Savannah, which will you will
Speaker 13: now be a part of On the group text, I said, no,
Speaker 13: I need to change my pick. I can't believe I
Speaker 13: didn't do this on the air.
Speaker 5: The pick to click on Thanksgiving Day is Cooks. Every
Speaker 5: cook is a pick to click. So I'm going with Cooks.
Speaker 4: And what he do, I don't know about that one.
Speaker 5: I think he scored a touchdown. Yeah he did. And
Speaker 5: by the way, Belle is going to be my pick
Speaker 5: to click on Christmas Eve?
Speaker 4: Okay, so.
Speaker 3: Mine mine was okay, thirty five twenty And then I
Speaker 3: had Pollard, I said, one hundred yards from scrimmagem Y's right,
Speaker 3: Helly did he have? I believe he had almost one
Speaker 3: hundred exactly.
Speaker 1: He had thirteen carries for seventy nine yards and receiving,
Speaker 1: and and come on from scrimmage from scrimmage, Yeah too early,
Speaker 1: twenty four yards.
Speaker 5: Four come on, one hundred and three.
Speaker 4: Come on. So I'm I'm right behind her. I'm right
Speaker 4: behind her. She's so we're all here. We give it
Speaker 4: all to Savannah.
Speaker 5: We're all agreement. Savannah wins.
Speaker 4: Savannah wins, and I get it close.
Speaker 6: Thanksgivy.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 4: So now we need we need to put this in.
Speaker 5: You can't go over, Okay, go the price is right,
Speaker 5: Bob Barker has spoken.
Speaker 1: And you can't and you can't keep coming up with gimmicks. Okay,
Speaker 1: your mind. You know the last thing I told them,
Speaker 1: would you need to take this more serious?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: And the reason I came up with fifty two points
Speaker 5: the most points the Cowboys had ever scored on Thanksgiving
Speaker 5: Day was fifty one against Seattle fifty one to seven
Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 10: I just had a feeling the home streak was going
Speaker 10: to continue and they were going to keep scorn big
Speaker 10: at home.
Speaker 6: And that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 1: They did now thirteen straight at home.
Speaker 5: In seven games this season, but winning more than twenty points,
Speaker 5: and which ties the all time records at nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Five of those at home, right, every home game, right,
Speaker 1: am I? Right? Yes?
Speaker 4: That's right? Yep.
Speaker 1: Well, there are three fourths of the way towards my
Speaker 1: four game winning streak, one more to go till they
Speaker 1: get to Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: There's three fifths away to my five game winning had
Speaker 5: to get.
Speaker 1: To nine and three, and if it wasn't for those
Speaker 1: two passes that the opponent screwed up. They would have
Speaker 1: been tied for first right.
Speaker 5: Now, two of them. They still have a chance to
Speaker 5: be tied for first after the game on December tenth. Yes,
Speaker 5: Philadelphia lose to San Francisco this week and then to
Speaker 5: Dallas the next week, and we're all tied up that
Speaker 5: it didn't stretch run of the season.
Speaker 1: Man, they can pull off some stuff.
Speaker 4: That's all you got to earn it this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this schedule coming down in December for both teams,
Speaker 3: Philly and Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Phillies gets easier, but Philly is that's the credit to them.
Speaker 5: Is they're going through their rugged stretch right now and
Speaker 5: they're unbeaten.
Speaker 1: Through it, figuring out how to win.
Speaker 6: And they have Miami this weekend.
Speaker 5: Correct, Is I thought it was San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 11: Me.
Speaker 4: And they do play Miami.
Speaker 5: They already played Miami. They played Miami. Yeah, that was
Speaker 5: part of this stretch.
Speaker 1: Francisco San frown.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's when Tyer h.
Speaker 5: San Francisco's playing well now they got it back together.
Speaker 5: In fact, if you look at the NFC now with
Speaker 5: Detroit losing to Green Bay on Thanksgiving Day, yes, I
Speaker 5: think you clearly put Philly, San Francisco, and Dallas top
Speaker 5: three teams in the NFC, no.
Speaker 3: Doubt Detroit just but they just don't know how to
Speaker 3: you know, win yet. They don't know how to be
Speaker 3: a target. They're a target this year.
Speaker 5: By the way, green Bay is I like what Jordan
Speaker 5: Love is doing.
Speaker 1: They're starting to sneak into this thing, and.
Speaker 5: With their young receiving cores.
Speaker 1: So my standing say that green Bay's five and six
Speaker 1: right now, and that's really only one game away from
Speaker 1: the wild card birth I don't care about.
Speaker 5: Seattle comes in here at five.
Speaker 1: Six and five Minnesota six and five, by the way,
Speaker 1: Seattle place here, and then they play at San Francisco,
Speaker 1: having just lost to San Francisco on Thursday night. Then
Speaker 1: they play at Dallas, and they get San Francisco again,
Speaker 1: and then they get Philadelphia. How about the stretch for them?
Speaker 1: And they preceded that by losing.
Speaker 5: At the Rams. Who I mean, Sean mcvay's doing a
Speaker 5: great coaching job with the Rams, and they've got Stafford
Speaker 5: back well. And so Seattle comes in here staring if
Speaker 5: they lose to Dallas, there'll be six and six in
Speaker 5: San Francisco and Philadelphia they're staring six and eight in
Speaker 5: the face.
Speaker 1: And then in the hot race in the South, it's
Speaker 1: a two way tie for first at five and five
Speaker 1: and now Tampa Bay at four and seven, only one
Speaker 1: game off the pace.
Speaker 5: And Carolina fires their coach this morning.
Speaker 1: Well who's going to get fired this week? And the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are.
Speaker 3: Still doing pretty well without Frank Yeah, yeah, which I'm
Speaker 3: surprised I did that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought Frank would really show him, you know, I
Speaker 3: thought he takes some receipts, as the young people say
Speaker 3: these days.
Speaker 4: No, not this, not with the Panthers, not with that.
Speaker 5: You know what happened for the coach that's helped them
Speaker 5: as their rookie quarterback got hurt and they got a
Speaker 5: veteran to Carolina would have a better record if Andy
Speaker 5: Dalton was their quarterback.
Speaker 11: Mhm.
Speaker 1: But I bet that was an organizational decision that this
Speaker 1: guy had to start. And then they.
Speaker 5: Stroud count C. J.
Speaker 1: Stroud just got a coach fired basically, basically, or the
Speaker 1: Cowboys did for beating these teams so badly.
Speaker 4: Now, that's one thing that that I've noticed.
Speaker 3: When the Cowboys beat a team, I mean, they it's
Speaker 3: it's they They dismantled the entire team.
Speaker 1: Well, they fired Jack del Real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean people, people are losing jobs. You know,
Speaker 3: they're not just winning the game that you know.
Speaker 5: How about the how about the Carolina though making this
Speaker 5: decision in the first year, eleven games in to their
Speaker 5: first year for this head coach? Here, think of the
Speaker 5: financial decision that is that David Tepper just made. It's basically,
Speaker 5: i mean, going right on head coaches in this league.
Speaker 5: You would think six million a year, five years, that's
Speaker 5: six million. That's thirty million dollars there, plus the coaching
Speaker 5: staff and basically gets turned over when a new coach
Speaker 5: comes on. That's a forty million dollar mistake or decision.
Speaker 1: Go ask a and m Yeah. But not only that,
Speaker 1: the season is not even over right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It didn't even give it a.
Speaker 1: Shot unless you know who you want to hire.
Speaker 3: But okay, when you look at Frank Wright, you know
Speaker 3: he's a guy that you would think could communicate with
Speaker 3: a quarterback with the potential.
Speaker 5: And communicate with an owner who just who just signed me?
Speaker 4: You just signed me? You knew that, you pretty much
Speaker 4: knew this was going to happen. They probably were going
Speaker 4: to be growing pain, you know, but it was gonna
Speaker 4: be gompags. Yes, so I don't know what he expected.
Speaker 1: Not like this means anything.
Speaker 8: But Tepper's worth twenty billion.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 5: Just letting him it's like forty bucks.
Speaker 8: Six billion dollars. How much he's worse.
Speaker 4: I haven't said that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wor a lot of money, but but it
Speaker 3: still doesn't bode well for the operations. You know, now,
Speaker 3: unless he has someone else in mind, what do you
Speaker 3: do now? You know you're gonna still how you're gonna
Speaker 3: find someone better than Frank.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's got a college coach that he wants to hire.
Speaker 1: Maybe and he wants to get a jump start on
Speaker 1: it's gonna get college is almost over right, or just
Speaker 1: conference championships?
Speaker 5: Guy who coached Bryce Young in college? Yeah, Bill O'Brien
Speaker 5: is New England as a coordinator. As a coordinator, that's
Speaker 5: a yeah. I thought they got to I assume they're
Speaker 5: not firing Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe you thought Sagan was ready to come back.
Speaker 5: Oh oh that would be a story. All right, So Mickey,
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Speaker 5: Okay, Mickey, tell us what you got on your legal pad.
Speaker 1: I've got a note here that says Shaq Leonard is
Speaker 1: coming in for a visit tomorrow. Wow. So I did
Speaker 1: a little bit of research on this, I was told.
Speaker 1: So it was game day. I guess that they had
Speaker 1: put a call in to whoever they needed to call
Speaker 1: to kind of research this, and they were gonna kind
Speaker 1: of look at it. Their Their initial fear was there
Speaker 1: were other teams that were very interested in him, and
Speaker 1: they were including the Eagles too. By the way, I
Speaker 1: think you point out that the Eagles lost in the
Speaker 1: coat Kobe Dean na Kobe Dean uh, and they were
Speaker 1: there was multiple teams that were going to be interested
Speaker 1: in them.
Speaker 12: So now.
Speaker 1: It could come down to money, but it also could
Speaker 1: come down to since the Colts are on the books
Speaker 1: for his base salary this year, and they made this
Speaker 1: decision knowing that they were going to have to count
Speaker 1: for twenty seven million dollars in dead money by releasing him,
Speaker 1: and so it was like, well, why are they doing this?
Speaker 1: And he attended the Colts game on Sunday and they
Speaker 1: showed him on the big board and he got a
Speaker 1: standing ovation, and I'm going, whoever made that decision? I
Speaker 1: wonder if management was happy.
Speaker 4: With that video.
Speaker 1: So I decided to kind of look into this thing.
Speaker 1: And obviously he's had back problems. In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: he had two surgeries for nerve damage in his back.
Speaker 1: He only played three games, but this year he started
Speaker 1: nine games, but he was going to be benched, and
Speaker 1: so I decided to kind of look on how he
Speaker 1: played in his last three games. And he's got sixty
Speaker 1: five tackles this season. And in Week eight he had
Speaker 1: eleven tackles against New Orleans and a loss. In Week
Speaker 1: nine he had ten against Carolina and a wing a win,
Speaker 1: and Week ten he had nine tackles against New England
Speaker 1: in a ten to six win. So he was playing,
Speaker 1: he was starting, and then they basically told him he
Speaker 1: wasn't going to start anymore. So it's kind of a
Speaker 1: curious decision by the Colts unless they decided they wanted
Speaker 1: to move forward with younger guys. But I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys saw that he was pretty active while he was playing,
Speaker 1: even though technically from what I read, he wasn't playing
Speaker 1: at the same level he did to win all those
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls and All Pros at a linebacker, and they
Speaker 1: were kind of changing how they were going to play
Speaker 1: their defense. But you know, when I saw their starting
Speaker 1: lineups and where he played, he was like a weak
Speaker 1: side linebacker. So it'll be interesting to see what kind
Speaker 1: of meeting they have. They It might not be about money.
Speaker 1: It might be about him saying, well, where can I
Speaker 1: go and have a chance to win in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: meaning probably a Super Bowl. So we'll see if you
Speaker 1: know what happens. The good thing about him is he's
Speaker 1: ready to play. This is not like Rashaun Evans had
Speaker 1: been sitting on his couch.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: The downside is is you got to look at his
Speaker 1: health and then how much is it going to cost?
Speaker 1: You be interesting to see where they.
Speaker 4: Go, is that back right? Yes, we want to find out.
Speaker 1: And his visit is tomorrow, yeah, real, Tuesday, Tuesday, Yeah,
Speaker 1: even though tomorrow's Friday.
Speaker 5: A couple of primary players on the Cowboys defense, A
Speaker 5: couple of starters have played with him before in Indianapolis,
Speaker 5: Stephan Gilmour last year and Malie.
Speaker 1: Cooker, so they should know.
Speaker 5: So they have a pretty good read from a players standpoint,
Speaker 5: what kind of.
Speaker 1: Game and a connection a connection for him to say, well,
Speaker 1: I've played with these guys. Now, having said that, I
Speaker 1: don't know that linebacker's been their problem with the play
Speaker 1: of Dumont Clark and Marquise Bell has been pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know. They finally got Evans into the game on Thursday.
Speaker 1: He ended up.
Speaker 5: Playing where's my note here?
Speaker 1: I think I think he had fifteen defensive snack.
Speaker 5: I think the way dan Quinn uses his personnel on defense,
Speaker 5: any second level linebacker level player, I mean, he used
Speaker 5: him in a variety of ways, and you it would
Speaker 5: be prudent to fortify that position as much as you
Speaker 5: can going forward, just to make sure that you're set
Speaker 5: there because it's important, you know, on down the road.
Speaker 5: In December January, February to make sure that you're you're
Speaker 5: set at that position, because you think about it, they
Speaker 5: didn't they didn't really replace Anthony Barr in free agency
Speaker 5: last year. What they did they went to marve On Overshown. Okay,
Speaker 5: that was the replacement. Well he goes down, So then
Speaker 5: Marquis Bell moves from safety to there, which has been
Speaker 5: great though. And he's a hybrid. Yeah, yeah, and he's
Speaker 5: more you know, we'll see where jay Ron Curse is
Speaker 5: with his that kept him out of the game on Thursday,
Speaker 5: but he's still and that's right, and so those so
Speaker 5: this would be a player that would be more along
Speaker 5: the lines of your traditional linebacker who's a great past
Speaker 5: defender as well, and when he's healthy. Uh, but I
Speaker 5: think with the vandersh injury, yeah, you bring in Rashaan Evans,
Speaker 5: but also I would go this guy because what if
Speaker 5: what if you.
Speaker 1: Have another injury and where are you and Evans? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so help remind me. Did they they did put Evans
Speaker 1: on the fifty three, right, Yes, they they had to
Speaker 1: finally moved that was so you're you're sort of one
Speaker 1: injury away that was having problems and.
Speaker 5: You know, they got had the injury last week junior
Speaker 5: for Hoko goes down with his injury. Yeah, which shot shots,
Speaker 5: that's right to the fifty three injuries come.
Speaker 8: Out of nowhere.
Speaker 10: Speaking of injuries, you mentioned Jaron Curse. So Mike McCarthy
Speaker 10: did say today that he will participate in the majority.
Speaker 10: You've practiced today, getting increase in reps from what he
Speaker 10: did yesterday. And they had a jog through yesterday, so
Speaker 10: I guess we'll find out a few behind us.
Speaker 1: And he said Curse took like half the snaps yesterday,
Speaker 1: but it was at a slower pace. So today it'll
Speaker 1: be the only practice really a practice, even though I'm
Speaker 1: sure they don't have pads on. I didn't think I
Speaker 1: saw them when they went out there, but at least
Speaker 1: they had their helmets on, so this will be. So
Speaker 1: this was a kind of a big headline on a
Speaker 1: wire story about Seattle being confused about the week because
Speaker 1: they were trying to explain to him that this is
Speaker 1: really Thursday, it's not you know whatever and uh, and
Speaker 1: they were making a big deal out them.
Speaker 8: I go, what's the big deal?
Speaker 1: Do you ever play on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5: Before they have?
Speaker 1: You have?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: And maybe they didn't play back to back, but usually
Speaker 1: they try to do that for the teams that are
Speaker 1: playing on Thanksgiving to play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know of any time where they have
Speaker 5: had a team that played on like the Cowboys, where
Speaker 5: you would play Thursday to Thursday and your opponent the
Speaker 5: thought though on the second Thursday would be a team
Speaker 5: that played on Sunday. They don't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they try to. That's what they've been trying to
Speaker 1: do of late. Uh and cut down on the travel too,
Speaker 1: by the way, But yeah, I thought that was that
Speaker 1: was amusing to me. But anyway, Yeah, from an injury
Speaker 1: standpoint there, he was the only guy anybody asked about
Speaker 1: was cursed. So they should be in pretty good shape there.
Speaker 5: That's good.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 1: So it was from from are you guys for signing
Speaker 1: Leonard of film for a reasonable amount of money?
Speaker 4: You need we need it's probably true linebacker.
Speaker 1: We need a true line and it's probably for what
Speaker 1: what what's left? Six games?
Speaker 4: Six?
Speaker 1: Five games? What are we eleven?
Speaker 6: We're on week We're going into week thirteen, so we'll.
Speaker 1: Have six games left, right, No, sixth the record is
Speaker 1: eight and three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, six games left, so this is the end of
Speaker 5: the second Trimester's confusing it's because we have six games
Speaker 5: in the first trimester, six games in the second trimester,
Speaker 5: but only five in the third trimester.
Speaker 1: Well maybe the first I guess the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, it sounds like the coaches in favor
Speaker 5: of an eighteen game season to eave it out as trimesters.
Speaker 1: And if he's not unless somebody gives him a long
Speaker 1: term deal, which I can't imagine they'll do. You're just
Speaker 1: paying them for this year and he can be a
Speaker 1: free agent and then.
Speaker 5: We see what happens next year. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So I think I think the connections we have with
Speaker 3: Hooka and Gilmore Gilmore, that's your really should really should.
Speaker 1: And then you have a little bit more depth at
Speaker 1: the linebackers. Let's see how Yeah they got it, that's
Speaker 1: what they've got to check. Yeah, because everything I've read
Speaker 1: he has it. But he's made a lot of tackles,
Speaker 1: just maybe not as he only has two tackles for
Speaker 1: losses and it zeroed out on everything else. When I
Speaker 1: looked up his stats.
Speaker 5: I realized it. It's been four days now, I guess
Speaker 5: since Thanksgiving Day and that great win. Anything else from
Speaker 5: that win though, that sticks in your mind. Four days later.
Speaker 1: That was a.
Speaker 5: Made it so special. We talked about some of it,
Speaker 5: but there's so much that happened that was, you know,
Speaker 5: the thing about it what it was a close game
Speaker 5: going to the fourth quarter these but it's like, you
Speaker 5: know what in college, I had a roommate. It had
Speaker 5: a piranhum.
Speaker 4: We had a fish.
Speaker 6: I didn't expect that.
Speaker 4: I was like, what where is this story? Okay?
Speaker 5: And on Friday afternoons he would feed the piranha.
Speaker 1: Only once a week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he would start the pirana all week and then
Speaker 5: on Friday afternoons he would feed the piranha. And so
Speaker 5: we would have watching perana watching.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, they probably had beers, and just.
Speaker 1: Why was not a part of this?
Speaker 13: The tank?
Speaker 8: Yeah, and what you take.
Speaker 5: About four four feet wide, there's a big tank. Whatever,
Speaker 5: And so he would go get some gold fish.
Speaker 4: No, anyway, gold fish.
Speaker 1: Probably I wouldn't have part of this.
Speaker 5: It was my roommate who did it. I'm not party
Speaker 5: to it, Okay, I just sort of served.
Speaker 4: He kept it on the seafood.
Speaker 5: But that's what I get, the feeling and the don't
Speaker 5: stick your hand in there. No, Marana's like hands.
Speaker 1: So how did we get to the Piranha for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5: I feel like in the fourth quarter, early quarter of
Speaker 5: these games, I have a flashback to my roommate's Piranha
Speaker 5: in college, and it's like, all right here it is
Speaker 5: fourth as soon as that happened, like I have to
Speaker 5: look see what happened in the fourth it was a
Speaker 5: twenty to ten game. And then so we get to
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter and Aubrey kicks a field goal to
Speaker 5: go up twenty three to ten. Yes, yes, he did,
Speaker 5: twenty three to ten.
Speaker 1: At that point he had missed.
Speaker 8: That was the point.
Speaker 5: For that was the point where all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I got this feeling that, okay, it's Piranha time. But
Speaker 5: actually it was Mike a time. He had a sack
Speaker 5: on the first play, and then Hankins had a sack
Speaker 5: on a fourth and one play, and then after that
Speaker 5: it was the CD touchdown. It's thirty one to ten
Speaker 5: with ten thirty two left, and then after that it's
Speaker 5: the Camante touchdown. It's thirty eight to ten, and then
Speaker 5: Deron Blent that was the feeding frenzy, and that was
Speaker 5: the Friday afternoon Piranha time. And this has happened multiple
Speaker 5: times over the last year, including the Indianapolis game.
Speaker 3: On the other side of that, that's what makes me
Speaker 3: nervous about playing on the road because we don't exhibit
Speaker 3: that on the road, so therefore those games are always closer. Well,
Speaker 3: they did it, and we have problems when we feel
Speaker 3: the pressure.
Speaker 1: Well, it certainly helped that riverboat Ron goes for it
Speaker 1: on fourth and one at his own thirty four. I
Speaker 1: could have told them that one guy turned.
Speaker 3: Out, and you know, they make stupid mistakes like that,
Speaker 3: the opposition. He's not the first coach to come in
Speaker 3: and like the Giants, they.
Speaker 4: Came in with a stupid play call.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand it's twenty three to ten, but
Speaker 1: still at your own thirty four, they blow themselves up
Speaker 1: and then Hankins, of all people, gets a second sack
Speaker 1: of the game.
Speaker 5: You're right, of all people.
Speaker 1: And then after the Cowboys scored, they faced fourth and
Speaker 1: four at the Dallas thirty five and went for it again.
Speaker 1: At least it was at the thirty five. But it
Speaker 1: didn't take long for Turpin to run a hell of
Speaker 1: a route to get open on the touchdown on third
Speaker 1: and six. You know what was the Cook's route was
Speaker 1: amazing how he got two guys right, he fake kind
Speaker 1: of in out and then goes back in and both
Speaker 1: the safety in the corner bid on it. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you when you ask what stood out. I thought
Speaker 1: the offensive line might have had one of.
Speaker 5: Its three straight games without a sack allowed yep.
Speaker 1: And and I thought it was indicative of how they
Speaker 1: were playing on the screen. Passed the dottle when you
Speaker 1: saw Biattish and Zach Martin pull ye, they got their
Speaker 1: guys and then Ferguson took care of the last guy.
Speaker 1: And I know Donald gets all the credit, but that
Speaker 1: was some offensive line play.
Speaker 3: That was a nice nice as Cebis pulling around there
Speaker 3: like he was Kelsey or somebody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, to close it out. As you were going
Speaker 5: down your legal pad, I was doing some research what
Speaker 5: producer Supreme told us about how much money David Tepper
Speaker 5: makes or what he's worth, which is in the range
Speaker 5: of twenty billion dollars. And when you let a coach
Speaker 5: go and a coaching staff and I threw out forty
Speaker 5: million dollar decision, that would be the equivalent of someone
Speaker 5: who makes one hundred thousand dollars a year making a
Speaker 5: two hundred dollars payment.
Speaker 1: I was going to say twenty thousand.
Speaker 5: It's two hundred dollars payment for a for someone who
Speaker 5: makes one hundred thousand dollars a year. That's the equivalent. Okay,
Speaker 5: what's forty million dollars to twenty million dollars?
Speaker 4: He let me see what I have in my I
Speaker 4: still think it's a long move.
Speaker 3: Still think I think there's still a hasty move like spat, say,
Speaker 3: unless he has someone else in.
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