WEBVTT - Episode 195 "Derez De'Shon" 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:14.200 Hold up, Hold up, and welcome to The Ballers Show podcast, 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.800 available everywhere you get your podcast. I go for the 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.760 name of Ferry Simmons. It's usually you know, you always 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:25.800 go second. You always go second, so you always best solo. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.160 I know, you know, BT. I'm in the building on 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.680 just so off. Okay, it's I don't know what the 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.319 hell happened. I think Sudon took some edibles or something 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.720 before she came in here. Well, she just beat our 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.400 our guest today, thered de Sean what's up man said 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.280 beat him? I would just say we had a friendly 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:51.200 game and his points didn't add. You know, I guess 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:57.520 gotta play suit solo in basketball. When they arrived, we 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:02.080 have a runoff with Mr war Knock and herschel Walker. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.440 Did you hear him do that? That movie? I already 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.880 know first? Did you vote the rest? I don't want 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.080 to be jobed by my answer, but yeah I didn't. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.800 But you know I don't. I ain't into that. Well 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.679 why not, I just ain't never been into it whatever, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.520 be honest. Yeah, I'm in a group chat with people 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.680 that said, what the hell did I vote for? That's 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.440 what I'm in a group chat. Fuller being honest, but 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.000 we do want to encourage you to get Yeah, I'm encouraged. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:34.760 You know the people, you know what I'm saying that 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.520 I can informence to do it, but you know they's 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.680 just on my never. You gotta lead by example though, 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:45.080 and I'm gonna lead him in the right direction. Uh. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.560 Stacey Abram's lost. I just hope she doesn't feel discouraged. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.400 Good work because she has put in so much work 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.680 for us, and I just hope that she continues to 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.480 do it. And girl, we got you. Next time around, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.920 please do that what we said last time. I said 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.559 that I'll be trying to tell y'all, y'all be thinking. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.120 People think Atlanta is Georgia. Atlanta is not Georgia. It's 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.280 a lot of white people in Georgia that went out 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:14.800 and voted. Well that we know, sir. Okay, most people 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.640 they come to Georgia and they just think of Atlanta, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.000 Atlanta the capital. Is there more people in Atlanta the 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:30.519 Birmingham thousand per cent here? Alright? Alright? Uh? Moving right along? 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.440 Take off sold out funeral updates. Alicia keys And said 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.799 to perform along justin Bieber and the event will not 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:42.560 be live stream no pictures, no media allowed, no phones allowed. Well, 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.240 I think the world would have wanted to see that. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.600 I'm surprised that they're not gonna So they're not gonna 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.760 stream and completely private but open to the public, which 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.200 is now closed. It's over. So if you got in, 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.440 you got in. I didn't even gotta I didn't even 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.840 get a notification to set it up to go. So 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.720 I'm not going not the that's the man is love. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.240 He lived a great life, and I hope that wherever, 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.720 you know, wherever his family is, that they found some 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.960 type of peace, especially knowing that there's such a big 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:12.040 community that that loves him. Um, Chris Brown says he's 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.040 making a new Christmas song. Can we get some snaps 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.160 from Chris Brown? Please, because I'm tired of here in 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.519 the same damn goddamn Christmas songs all carry Your song 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.320 is five? Yeah, but damn we get some new Christmas music? 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.840 Are you guys in Christmas? Chris Chris Brown's this Christmas 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:34.720 was cool? That was that one time? So how many seasons? 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.760 Is it too early? It's not, It's actually on time, 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.440 because you know you're blinking, we're gonna be next next year. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.200 No that's true. That's true. Time you had a Christmas tree, 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:47.360 real Christmas tree. He's still up. But you know we 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.320 did leave it up too long, we did. But I 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.360 think it was like, um, probably two years ago. Okay, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.560 real big old tall Chrismas tree are Yeah, I don't 0:03:58.560 --> 0:03:59.880 even know what to do with it, so we just 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:05.000 threw it over the lady the change of the season. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.280 Growing up in your family, let you decorate the trie 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.839 or was that like sacred kids can't touch the tree? Yeah, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.840 we usually do it. Um, it was for us to do, 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:16.880 you know what I'm saying. You know, they just wanted 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:22.040 us to be in the spirit, and you know he was, 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:29.320 y'all put that trie up. It's okay. A future legally 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.279 changes his last name from will Burn to Cash. I 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.440 think that's a great thing. I think that getting a 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.919 lot of cash. Yeah, yeah, seven million? Is that his 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.760 dad last name is will Burn? Is he like not 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.159 close to his that? I think. I think it's justified. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.040 I think he changed the last name cash because he's 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.760 getting a whole bunch of ury. He should have just 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.719 changed his first name to Future cash. First name is 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.120 Demon Cash. I wonder if he has a strained relationship 0:04:58.120 --> 0:04:59.680 with his father, so it was like easy to get 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.320 rid of his last name, because that's kind of tough 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.280 to do. I think he just is so driven by 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.440 the money. He just, you know, want to just put 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.599 it in his name. He should just do it easy, 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.000 like Kanye. You know, he's just Yah. Future, just just 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.960 be future. Imagine if your son changed his last name, Like, 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:19.040 how would you feel, man? Why would you say that 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:23.480 that's what's good as dad? I don't know what relationship 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.680 he has with his dad, but yeah, I would definitely 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.960 feel a way. If you all could change your last names, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.359 would would it be Coulde? Or if you wanted to, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:36.400 you can? But if you wanted to, what would they be? Favari? Okay, 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.480 I'm changing mind to one of these royal families. I'm 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:42.520 gonna start geting some spells of treatment. Okay, Wins, I'm 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.600 gonna start gonna change you. I'm gonna go to England 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.719 or somewhere. They're gonna be like, hey, you're gonna last 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:51.400 name is Frank fan. I am Frank for the fifth 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.400 I'm gonna get all type of free ship. You wanna 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.800 be a winsdor hood? No, you don't want to be 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.160 related to the queen. Then you don't want to be royal. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.599 There's plenty of the royal family who don't. Don't. Don't 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.240 have to go do it. I how to google it. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:12.680 You so trying to set me up. You set your 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.039 damn stelf up with that one. I never thought about that. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.440 I love my last name. I love Solomon. It feels royal, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:22.080 like strong, I love like mine. March is very strong, 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.960 very moved forward. Moving the rest strong about you? The 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.840 rest to show your real name? Yeah, and I just 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:31.720 got a last name. So that's it. You know what 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.119 I'm saying, school with mine. You know what I'm saying. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:40.239 I used the red, the red, and then my last name. Okay, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.160 so the Redshan is your middle name. Yeah, that's what's up. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:07:01.760 Yeah so your last name, yeah yeah, it will be 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:07.880 so popped up your last day but incident old google 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:16.160 an Yeah yeah yeah, okay, okay, Well this is this 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.920 is two BT. Uh tom Brady's uh soon to be 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.240 ex wife Giselle just closed on the eleven point five 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.640 million dollar home in Miami, right across the creek where 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.960 Tom Brady is building a house. BT. Remember we had 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.960 that argument that uh just sale didn't make more money 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:37.840 than time. Apologize she got the back, he pumed, he 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.040 fumbled the bag, He damn did. She looked good too. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.160 You know how many you know how many dudes probably 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:49.320 her dms right now? How do you do that? Well? 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.760 Tom Brady decided to go play football again and m 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.400 and then she divorced him because he was supposed to 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.920 retire from football and he didn't. He went back, and 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.840 then she filed with the voice. Yikes, and they're having 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.880 a bad season probably like baby, yeah, we've ben travel 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.600 the world football ship. We gotta do not. I think 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.480 that's what I would have bed football. If your ex 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.440 wife builds a house that right across the street from 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.040 your house, is that offer eight years? Awkward? But it 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.240 means she still want me obviously. Yeah, she trying to 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:29.600 skip across screek like like she might got a new buddy, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.920 but she won't me still a little bit. You know, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:33.599 she does want to drop the kids off when the 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.599 time ago that school drop them all, you know the 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.959 same thing. It's cool, they're right girl, you know once 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.120 string the night the night, y'all go there. This will 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.839 be on the nerd gold MoMA. You might have nothing 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.280 to do. That's cool. Yeah, see your dad's house right 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:56.400 right his house? That yeah, okay, Bill, we don't get 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.160 into business. Let's take quick commercial banks. We'll be right back, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:05.719 but more of the Baller Alert Show. You're listening to 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.480 a special edition of The Baller Alert Show. This is 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.160 a special cloth Alert and we are back with the 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.559 Bailer Show podcast available everywhere you get your podcast. The 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.800 Red Shot is in the building. How it's going, sir good? 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.760 Every time I see your jury just gets bigger and 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.880 bigger and bigger. This PGF What does PGF mean? First? 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.120 I didn't know that. Okay, Yeah, we have some steps 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.920 for that. Slim Duncan is on one and uh is 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.920 there something on the other side of Slim Duncan Jurassic Park? 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.439 And is that the Red Sean underdep the pgu the 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:43.120 first one? Why do you that Jurassic Park? That's what 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.760 they call from their name. For the second, I'm born 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.080 to resident and I never heard that. Yeah, you must 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.640 probably what they say. And the Lion King you must 0:09:51.679 --> 0:10:03.960 never go there, don't. And so now that we are 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.400 talking about this, I want to put this on the record. Uh. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.640 Me and I got d C got suspended for the 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.440 radio for playing your record ten times in the row. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.440 Do you remember when we played Hardaway on the record, 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.839 you came up there, Uh, we won't post then interview, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.800 you won't post to play the song time played it. Yeah, 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.480 we had got written up and suspended for that's real little, 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:30.840 that's real little. I'm very thankful for that a lot part. 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.360 It's part of the pros. Damn to get suspending for 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.199 my boy. Now now we're good man, we're good now. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.400 But I ain't coming up. Yeah. I didn't know what 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.079 we was doing at the time, man, But you know, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.160 I just knew that you had the hidest record in 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.440 the city. And I remember because I remember that's DJ 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.280 Y came to and he asked he came with your 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.400 holiday and he was like, yo, what is this song? 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.200 Holliday asked me what the song was and I said, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.800 that's the residng he's right over there. Yeah, I remember 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:04.320 that night too. That's or Mac. Yes, Yo, we show 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:09.080 did yeah so far as but not my radio mentor. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.000 For years, I used to work at the club. I 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.520 was a doorgirl for Age Entertainment. Used to charge Ferrari 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.640 when he was coming to the club because we weren't 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.640 crazy yet to charge him to get into the club. Facts, 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.760 but you know, I had to get the money. So 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.240 my first memory, my first encounter, I believe, was you 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.440 were running around the city with Ferrari, Like I think 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.280 he was showing you around of different clubs, like getting 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.679 your record played, or maybe you were just coming to 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:36.040 the club. Yeah, yeah, So I just remember, like as 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.079 an intern, just like watching new artists engaged with them 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.160 and like how those relationships were built. I thought that 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:46.360 you were very like solid. You just came in, you networked, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.240 you made sure that you met the right people, and 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.000 then you went on about your business like you weren't. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:51.959 I'm trying to keep it, you know, I'll try to 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.200 keep it right. I can't go in there with brother 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.160 on face card and not do the right, you know 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:01.560 what I'm saying. Sometimes maybe all the way wrong. Now listen, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.400 I see you got rich Gang Tat are you still 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.400 with rich game? I mean, um, you know that's just 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.679 a feminine thing, you know what I'm saying. It's forever 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:10.959 a little. When I got it, it was love and 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.440 it's gonna forever be love. So you was really looking 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.280 for Charlotte, man, I mean, that's what it turned out 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.400 to be. I want to well what we were doing. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.480 So when you walked in the room, it was Birdman, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:27.720 you and Rollo and uh so what did Birdman? Did 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.520 he say anything to y'all before he walked in that room? Man, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.480 I'd be in my own head man if he did, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.559 I don't even know, Like I'll just be in my 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.920 own man, Like I can't believe at the time, I 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:40.920 can't even believe I was there, Like it was a 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.080 blessing just to beat up, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.280 Grew up listening to him and watching them and knowing 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.280 what he did. You know what I'm saying, I couldn't 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.520 believe I was there, Like I was in my heads. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.200 I don't know talking about the breakfast club when um, 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.000 you know, when Birdman walked in, he just went left. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.920 And that's why it was like, did he say something 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.199 in the beginning that he just like walked in and 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.600 just stop playing with my fucking name. Do it on camera. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:14.360 Stop playing with my name? Uh with my name? Come up, 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.240 respecting a stop playing with my fucking name. All thrill 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.960 of y'all. Stopped playing with my name. I ain't gonna 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.440 say no more. Say to hit you and hit me, okay, 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.839 all right, So now when y'all left, what did he say? Then? 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.960 He didn't say nothing. I still was in my head. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.280 I'm being on it like no because I'm in my 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.760 head like oh Ship, we hear right right? And then 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.440 when that happened, I'm like, oh Ship, we weren't. What's 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.920 gonna happen? Like I don't know, let me just my 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.559 business and what we're doing that what we're doing like 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.040 because the Harder Way I heard, you know, the Harder 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.040 Way to the song, it was just going so crazy 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.200 and then you said I didn't know what you said 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.640 on the song. It was like I was in a 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:58.599 looking for respect and I'm like, wait what it's a 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.080 charlot man. I'm like, oh, Ship, that was really looking 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.880 for him in New Year. So it wasn't my idea 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.319 for them to slow that down. Oh you know what 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.719 I'm saying. I wanted trip because I know it's like 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.400 it ain't like this music. How soon did you record 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.319 Hardaway after that that happened? So what I did was 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:21.640 I recorded Hardaway first verse, right, okay, and then I 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.560 ain't know what to do with it at first, like 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.080 I don't know, like that happened before that. So when 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.200 I did put that in there, it was like when 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.720 I went back to Atlanta. Whenever I went back to them, 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.760 immediately got in the studio and everybody like, you need 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.480 to finish the song. And that's what I came over. Okay, 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.200 now the resist You're the first of your kind. Um. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.560 And I say that because I believe, I don't know 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.120 if you know this, that you kind of created the 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:49.600 genre called pain music very emotional, um, very uh stressful, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.840 you're stressed out talking going on. Um, And a couple 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.480 of people came from what you kind of created the 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:02.080 genre and uh we had rod Waves Moray my can 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.280 name a couple of others. Now my question to you 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.000 is are are are these people? Do you think these 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.200 people were more so took your style and created their 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.680 own form of love it or are they inspired by 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.720 what you? I think personally, everybody got their own style. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.240 It is unique. But I think maybe I inspired and 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.360 inspired them to be comfortable with doing that. You know 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.880 what I'm saying, Um, we all got our own different, 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.520 unique sound. I mean, but we all and this is 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.120 our running We all fat and sang and rap. You 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.480 know what I'm saying? Yeah, are we gonna have some 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.960 collapse because more is on the project. Shout out, We're 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.360 gonna ever see it the reds Sean Rodway song. I've 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.240 been trying to get it. I've been pushing the issue 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.040 since the day one, like I've been racking Roadway. You 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.120 know what I'm saying, Like when he first dropped, I'll 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.360 never forget the first time he dropped. I went to 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.920 manhouse and I don't like man, listen to this nigga Man, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.400 this nigga five and every elver I've been rocking in 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.000 supporting and since day one, even with whatever they say, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.080 I communicate, No, I ain't ever talking to him. I 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.840 thought I thought road Way. When I first heard his music, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.240 I thought it was you. A lot of people just 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.360 a lot more raspier. I thought it was like that. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.200 Ain't the RESI shun like. I honestly thought it was 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.480 you when when he first started coming out with music. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.720 You know, how do you deal with that though? Because 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.880 I feel like it didn't give you a chance, you know, 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.760 as a new artist and your your your your leg work. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.440 At that time, I main't have what I needed around 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.200 me to continue to go forward with it. You know 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.960 what I'm saying. So now, it's like, I respect it's 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.440 it's it's a game, it's a business, it's an industry. 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.640 You know what I'm saying, I ain't triving. I ain't 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.800 I'm I'm proud of bro Like you know what I'm saying. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.400 I respect that because I think so many people feel 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.120 like someone took their style and ran with it, whereas 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.800 y'all probably had similar styles to begin with. Y'all were 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.720 both just grinding unknown artists at the time, and it 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:57.200 just so happened somebody got the more, somebody had more problems, right, Yeah, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.280 But I love this ans. I think it really speaks 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.120 volumes as the like just the type of person that 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:02.320 you are. And I think it's dope that you can 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.400 express yourself in your music because a lot of black 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.080 men have a hard time doing that. And that's what 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.760 I'm doing for a little noise. Okay, man, you ain't 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.720 gotta be gagst all day. All right, So I do 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.600 have to talk about something series with you. Man, we 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.200 was I was DJ in the club one time, I 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.320 was at five one time for Manny DJ was sucked 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.160 and I've seen the rid Sean just quiet and I'm 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.720 gonna tell you all this, this is crazy. You're just 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.440 quiet as fun. I'm just trying to figure out what's 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.880 going on. I have my young boy, young frowd star 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.760 DJ and and me. You go talking to Patio and 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:40.600 you tell me someone just tried to kill you and 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.600 the detail that you gave me, I mean you talked 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:52.359 for our outside. Um I want to know because I 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.040 I'm listening to the music obviously I'm a fan and 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:03.760 I hear lyrics. Um does that situation still bother you? Yeah? 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.760 Spoken about this, I mean, you know, to a counselor, 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.800 but I ain't really like it's old with like I 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.920 put the pad like it is what it is. It 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.480 just hit me by surprise that it came like that, 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.480 you know what I'm saying. But um, yeah, he bothered me. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.720 Fuck me up like it do something mentally to me, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.119 Like I don't trust ship no more. Like you notice 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.960 I move around damn neil by myself. Maybe people, Yeah, 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.640 very more militant, like I'm observing their thing. As soon 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.360 as I don't feel right on out, I don't give 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.400 a funk with nobody gotta say. You know what I'm saying. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.480 I gotta get on my kids, like so yeah, that 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.399 ship did funk with me though, and uh and and 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.080 I know you said you went to a counselor um 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.080 because I've been seeing you've been talking about mental health 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.200 a lot, and a lot of people don't speak about 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:55.080 mental health very mental health, Uh going forward driven And 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.240 that's a very do you think a lot of rapper 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:02.639 ship go seek mental mental health like awareness, like by 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.520 speaking to somebody that counselt It's often often I think why. 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.760 I think artists for one, I think artists for want 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.520 to see it because when you transition from I'm gonna 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.320 just say my my situation, when you transition from nobody 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.840 to somebody in the whole world just at your feet, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.000 and like you don't if you don't know how to 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.879 adapt to that, if you don't know how to accept that, 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.159 it can mentally funk you up too. So you need 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.400 to have somebody to talk to to understand, like, hey, 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.879 you know this is going on, that's going on. I 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.040 don't understand this. I don't know how to move forward 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.119 this like I find myself even to this day still 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.760 I'd be telling like man in Rocking Life, bro, I 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.040 can't be no asshole to the volte bro. I can't 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.240 tell a nigger, not even though on the inside I 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.920 want to be like, hell no, you feel but that 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.040 folk with you then is the money. When the money 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.720 comes in, the money change. You start seeing people change. 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:54.960 You don't understand how to adapt to that, or you 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.200 don't understand how to tell your uncle like you ain't 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.200 never asking me for a dollar? What you mean, bask 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.920 in your company or you know, all the bitches come 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.760 through now your emotion getting mixed up, peeping that he 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.120 holds or want the money. You know what I'm saying. 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.600 Your partners go from being niggas that didn't even call 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.480 you until goddamn it was trying to go out of 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.240 some ship to now every day is something like you 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.320 really need somebody to talk to the coach dough with 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.399 that because you can't talk to your partners because they 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.119 don't thank you weak or they're gonna think like, oh, 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.080 he's catching on, he might we might lose him right now, 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.000 like we can't let him know we got damn you 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.240 know what I'm saying. Method Man recently said that he 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.000 feels that a lot of rappers are good actors because 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.280 they're good liars. Do you think that you know rappers 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.239 in our community lie about either the hype like they 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:49.000 glorify you know, sex, money, drugs. Do you think they 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:54.240 actually live those lives they like? So I believe, especially today, 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.560 like the new artist today, I believe a lot of them, 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.159 you know what I'm saying, actually live exactly like how 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.480 they rapping. And I just feel like, you know what 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:07.960 I'm saying, Um, it's different from like that then it was. 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.680 It was hellicat back then, you know what I'm saying, 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.680 But now it's like, yeah, I believe that ship. You 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.080 know what I'm saying. You can hear. You can go 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.760 to niggas hear their stories. You can go to you know, 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:20.800 the other side, people who don't vote with them, you 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.880 can hear. Yeah, I don't know like that. They moved 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.200 around like that, you know what I'm saying. So today 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.640 I don't really see too much fabricated ship. But back then, 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.440 you know, you can look at the nigga and be like, nigga, 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.840 what you was not? Come over? Yeah? Yeah, So like 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.159 your childhood friends are like people that you knew before 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.440 your name was a household name, but they support you 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.200 in therapy or counseling or the type of music that 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.880 you make that put them votes on. I don't even 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.359 you know what I'm saying, because the Joe would beat jokes. 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.520 Of course, Nigga's joke all the time. Um So I 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.000 don't mean that's just for me. That's my personal ideal 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.080 that on my own time and I come back however, 0:21:58.320 --> 0:21:59.959