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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sandy and Samantha. Well kome stuff. I

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Speaker 1: never told you a protection of iHeart Radio and welcome

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Speaker 1: to another Monday many. Today's date is March eleventh, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five, which, by the way, I got a very

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Speaker 1: interesting scam text today that told me my car had

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Speaker 1: like run a red light somewhere, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's really interesting because I haven't driven it in three months.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of those scams going around with like

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Speaker 2: you didn't pay a toll fine all these things.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I got one today, but I thought my

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Speaker 1: car might have been stolen because again I haven't driven

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Speaker 1: it in three months, so I had to go invent.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, it's still there. Just a scam, just

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Speaker 1: a scam.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: But yes, that is the date, and I'm putting that

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Speaker 1: on there because a lot of publications, a lot of

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Speaker 1: media is talking about this. I'm actually surprised about how much,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know if that's right or wrong to

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Speaker 1: be surprised by it. But we are entering with the

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Speaker 1: fifth year anniversary of COVID. We are here. March thirteenth

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Speaker 1: is my quarantine aniversary, as I call it. I do

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Speaker 1: have some traditions around it, but people are writing about it,

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Speaker 1: and I was just curious how things have changed. Have

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Speaker 1: they changed about what people are talking about when it

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Speaker 1: comes to COVID and women, And it turns out they

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Speaker 1: have a little bit. There's actually a lot of interesting

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Speaker 1: conversations about how it changed women in entertainment and very

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Speaker 1: niche entertainment. We're not really going to talk about that

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Speaker 1: here today, but that if you want to look it up,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of interesting conversation about that. And if

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Speaker 1: you've been listening to this show, we were just joking

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Speaker 1: today about how painful it is for us to listen

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Speaker 1: to our early pandemic episodes when we were like, uh,

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Speaker 1: in a week or so, it'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: This is in the last thirty days, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're like maybe two months.

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Speaker 2: To six months, Yeah, everything's the worst.

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Speaker 1: And you know, interestingly, Monday Many as a segment kind

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Speaker 1: of came about because of the pandemic. We were asked

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Speaker 1: to add another segment, and I remember sitting in a

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Speaker 1: meeting where some of our higher ups were like, you know, COVID,

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Speaker 1: everybody's talking about COVID. You should have a like newsy

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Speaker 1: segment almost, So here we are Monday, many revisiting that.

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Speaker 1: But that being said, we have talked previously about all

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Speaker 1: the ways COVID disproportionately harmed women and minorities in terms

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Speaker 1: of health, in terms of family life, domestic violence, and

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Speaker 1: in terms of their profession. But one thing that I

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Speaker 1: have seen a lot written about lately is long COVID

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Speaker 1: and women. So we actually have talked about this previously too,

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Speaker 1: but there's been a lot more new research coming out

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Speaker 1: about it. So women are more likely to suffer from

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Speaker 1: long COVID, which is when someone experiences a wide range

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Speaker 1: of persistent symptoms twelve weeks after contracting COVID. Usually the

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Speaker 1: symptoms are things like brain fog, poor memory, breathlessness, chronic fatigue,

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Speaker 1: heart racing, and it can lead to more serious things

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Speaker 1: like a stroke. I was looking at the list the

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Speaker 1: ones that stuck out to me is a random muscle twitching.

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Speaker 1: I have experienced that for several years since COVID h

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Speaker 1: and I've looked it up and I've tried It's like,

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Speaker 1: is it restless legs? And what is going on here?

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Speaker 1: Usually happens when I'm trying to sleep. But it is

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Speaker 1: wide ranging. So it's one of those things. They're still

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Speaker 1: researching it. They're still studying it. It's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But these symptoms can last for three to six months,

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Speaker 1: feel like they're grieving their old life because it's completely

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Speaker 1: so when it's like really spiking, and that's likely due

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Speaker 1: long COVID he said he was going to do that

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Speaker 1: thing we've talked about before. We still don't believe women

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Speaker 1: about their health. We still don't believe them about their pain,

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Speaker 1: their symptoms. I have to tell you this Women's History month,

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Speaker 1: multiple emails have come into our our Sminty email box

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Speaker 1: that have been like, did you know that seventy four

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Speaker 1: This is like serious, I cannot function. Depression can do that.

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Speaker 1: Have you drink of water? And a lot of women

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Speaker 1: So there are people doing this work and it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those things where you're like, ah,

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Speaker 1: five years into COVID and here there are but yeah, yeah, listeners.

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