WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Sole Survivor 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:10.960 My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.320 A listener male. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:18.120 Joe McCormick. And Carney is just spilling dry beans out 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.279 of his body today. That must mean that the first 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.639 messages we're gonna read are in response to our two 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:30.360 parter on the Humble being. All Right, what do we 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.800 have first, Joe, Well, let's see. The first note is 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.479 we received a very brief communic a from the food 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.120 historian Ken Albola, the author of the book Beans a History, 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.440 which we talked about a lot in those two episodes 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.480 on beans Can, contacted us to say, very nice episodes. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.559 That's it seems Ken is into the whole brevity thing. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.279 But thanks so much for the kind words and and 0:00:52.560 --> 0:01:00.080 your book was a big help. Awesome all right, This 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.960 next one comes to us from Hannah. Hannah rides Hi, 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.400 Robert and Joe. I loved your reconsider the being episodes 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.080 this week. As a long time vegetarian, I am something 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.200 of a bean stand. Uh it's like a fan, right, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.320 that's yeah, it means like a fan. I think a 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.800 stand is not just a fan as in somebody who 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.240 likes it, but a fan who like puts effort into 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.800 their appreciation of something. All right, and one of my 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.000 favorite things of stuff to blow your mind episodes are 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.640 deep dives into seemingly mundane things. To answer the question 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.320 of favorite beans, I must admit that my heart lies 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.640 with the humble black bean that being has range. I 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.440 wanted to write in to mention an interesting fictional treatment 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.080 of beans relating to the Jack and the Beanstalk fairy 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.360 tale and Stephen Sondheim's musical Into the Woods. I know 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.040 there was a movie version that came out a few 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.640 years ago, but I personally have not seen it and 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.920 have little interest in doing so, as it is, from 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:58.320 what i've heard, a sanded down, pretty mediocre adaptation. I'm 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.760 perfectly satisfied with the p BS filmed on stage version. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.840 I think most people familiar with it are so because 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.639 it's a popular choice for high schools and local regional 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.960 theaters to put on. Anyway, the story and is a 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.080 bunch of fairy tales, including Jack and the Beanstalk, interweaving 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.400 until eventually the story spins out of control. The score 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.800 reflects this, creating a complex web of musical motifs and 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.400 ideas that not only helps the audience orient themselves among 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.320 the many characters, but also helps create a through line 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.560 to make all of these different storylines form a cohesive 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.160 piece of theater. This is something that Sondheim is very 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.280 good at, taking little phrases and musical ideas and shifting 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.560 them around, inverting them, combining them, etcetera, so that the 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.720 narrative and thematic concepts are also baked into the score. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:50.440 Oh much like baked beans, uh, they continued. One character 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.559 that gets its own musical motif is the magic beans themselves, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.840 and this bean theme or bean motif as it is 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.040 usually called, is all over the music zical. In this 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.840 version of the story, the beans were originally stolen by 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.160 the Baker's father from the Witch's garden, tying into the 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:11.320 witchy associations from English folklore, and as they change, various 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.680 hands bring if not outright bad luck and curses sort 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.640 of monkeys paw esque quote unquote good luck that eventually 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.760 causes a lot of chaos and destruction and related to 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.840 the association of beings with genitals discussed in these episodes 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.280 of the Witch reveals to the Baker that she cursed 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.400 his whole family to be infertile as retribution for his 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.640 father's being theft The baker is later the one to 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.680 trade the beans to Jack for his cow in a 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.120 quest to reverse the curse. In this way, the beans 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.080 themselves come to represent the central conflict of the show, 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.280 which ends up being all of the characters unwillingness to 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.120 change and take responsibility for their own actions. I'm not 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:53.480 sure if this is necessarily explicitly intended, but the hardy 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.520 and long lasted dry beans seems like a good symbol 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.720 for being static and stubborn and for bad luck you 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.760 can get rid of. Huh, I've seen into the woods. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:06.000 I did not think to make any of these connections. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.600 The beans always seemed incidental to me. But I see 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:13.640 everything you're saying, Hannah. Yeah, these beans go deep, Hannah continues. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.120 The second to last song of the show is largely 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.400 about how complex and difficult morality really is, and how 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.120 even though there is no one there to guide the 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.640 remaining characters, perhaps they will be able to figure it 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.919 out together. This is just before the story resolves, and 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.000 in this song, the bean motif is inverted. When this 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.400 is applied to melodies. This means that if you were 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.360 to picture the phrase written on sheet music, you would 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.719 then flip it upside down, so the direction of the 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.919 intervals between notes is reversed. For example, instead of the 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.719 interval between the first two notes going down a perfect fifth, 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.240 it now goes up a perfect fifth. Crucially, the inversion 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:53.000 happens on the lyric people make mistakes where these characters 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.320 are finally admitting their own fault, something that just two 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.200 scenes earlier they were frantically thrusting onto one another. They 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.919 are finally ready to admit when they are wrong, to 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:07.800 grow and learn, they have canceled out the beans. Sorry 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.680 that this got so long and that I felt compelled 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.080 to do music theory at you. Here is a link 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.960 of Sonheim himself talking about this motif so that you 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.960 can hear what it sounds like, and they include a 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.520 link and then in this video at about the three 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.640 minute mark at four forty five talking about resolution inversion 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.719 of this theme. Endless thanks for this awesome show. It 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.200 always gives me something new and interesting to think about. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.680 And here are the clips Hannah was talking about. And 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.680 also I would like to point out that when you're 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.560 singing the release of the second part when they're all 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:45.920 singing together, people make mistakes. It's going like this, and that, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.400 of course, is the inversion of the bean thing. It's 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:54.800 the upside down version, so that everything finally comes together 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.640 in in one song. Well, thanks Hannah, interesting stuff. Yeah, 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.359 this connects to a bunch of things we talked about. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.320 The Yeah, the cursed beans from English folklore, the beans 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.120 and reproduction. I did not see any of this coming, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:14.320 so so thank you very much. Anyway, This next message 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.200 comes from Greg. Greg says, I enjoyed listening to your 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.240 two part episode on beans. Fascinating stuff. My favorite bean 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.640 encounter was at a dinner with a friend of mine 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.800 from Mexico. I'm on a restricted diet that does not 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.680 allow chocolate, but he served what appeared to be a 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.760 chocolate cake for dessert. When I saw it, I reminded 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.720 him that I couldn't eat chocolate, and he told me 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.200 there wasn't any in the cake. He asked me to 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.920 guess what the cake was made from. I had no idea. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:45.440 He revealed it was black beans, no chocolate whatsoever. I 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.840 was blown away. The cake was great. It really fooled 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.359 the mind into thinking it was chocolate. I'll have to 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.960 get that recipe and make it again. Keep up the 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.680 great work. Always entertaining and fascinating podcasts, including the Weird 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:02.840 House Cinema ones Still trying to Find Frall from nineteen two. Greg, Oh, 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.720 I've never heard of this, or Rob if you had 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:10.080 a black bean cake? Uh, you know, it sounds vaguely familiar. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.600 I feel like I've had I may have had some 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.720 sort of a baked good that was ultimately made from 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.160 beans and had kind of a chocolate consistency to it. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.400 But but but I don't have a specific memory of it. Now, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:21.520 this is funny. I forgot to bring this up in 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.040 the other episode. But I've been cooking with something that's 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.320 often called black beans. It's not the same as the 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.720 black bean you would usually have in like the like 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.760 the version of fassiolas that that is called black beans. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.480 That they're the fermented black beans that are often used 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.679 in uh some regional dishes of Chinese cooking. And uh, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.320 I got a pack of those that I ordered off 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.600 to the internet. They're actually soy beans and they're really 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.040 good as for frogs and where you can find a 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.320 copy of it? Um, I said, just keep looking look 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.040 at look, look, look around online, because I think you'll 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.040 at least find some scenes from it that have been uploaded. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.840 All right, here's another bit of listener mail. This comes 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.000 to us from Peggy. Peggy writes in and says hi, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.120 Rob and Joe enjoyed your discussions on beans this week, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.840 especially part two where you talked about particular traditions and 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.960 beliefs about beans. My love of a good bean dish 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.080 refried black beans please, has unfortunately been ruined by my 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.480 body's decision not to digest them properly, causing more than 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:28.960 a few guttural hauntings. Maybe Pythagoras had ibs. I lived 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.080 in Japan for a year fifteen years ago and participated 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.040 in sets A Bun festivities that February. There could be 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.400 uh different traditions and other regions of Japan, but in 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:44.160 Kansai Osaka, Kyoto region, you're supposed to clean your house 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.280 and yell only sato demons out while emptying the dirt outside. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.640 It's also traditional to eat timaki, an uncut sushi roll, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.360 while sitting in a certain direction, though I can't remember 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.959 which direction. I went to a ceremony at a local 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.560 temple where a full of demons were banished. With the 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.480 help of the crowd, we all threw soybeans at them, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:08.080 yelling on a sto until they were defeated. I have 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.520 a feeling this ties back to the old Lunar New 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.760 Year with the idea of starting out with a clean, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.440 demon free house. And yes, I believe that is the 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.520 case as well, based on some material I was looking at. 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.040 But they continue. You were trying to remember when you 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.040 talked about driving evil spirits out of the house. I 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.079 think it was in your episode from early last year 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:30.520 about animate objects in Chinese and Japanese culture. In Japan, 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.600 New Year's celebrated January one, but I remember it's also 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.800 traditional to clean the house beforehand and get some new clothes, 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.520 starting the year off fresh. I hadn't heard of throwing 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.320 used objects out of the house as you mentioned in 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.040 the episode, but maybe that's an older edition. I did 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.000 get a kick out of the story about a religious 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.280 scroll trying to convert a bunch of discarded objects, uh 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.400 to Shingon Buddhism. I'm biased, but the scroll was right. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.040 It is the best school to convert to. Apologies for 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.120 sounding like that religious scroll, but you might find Shingan 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.080 interesting from his story and cultural perspective. It comes from 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.920 the same roots as Tibetan Buddhism, incorporates a lot of 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.920 Shinto beliefs, and is colorful and complex compared to the 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:13.080 simplicity of zin. It's founder, known as Koboda, actually lived 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.400 during the Hayon period of tenth century and developed the 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.200 hiragana and u kata kana writing system still used today. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.640 There are all kinds of legends about his life and 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.600 is believed to have preserved his own body after death. 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.079 Might be of interest to look up into his life 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.800 an impact on Japanese culture. You know, I think, um, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.400 back when Christian was on the show, I think uh, 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.560 I think we I discussed this with him at one 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.440 point when we're doing a series on various mummification rituals 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.560 self mummification. Uh. They continue. This also calls back to 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.240 your episode a while ago Unsacred Mountains asking about personal 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.800 or lesser known spots. Mine is uh mount to Koya 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.480 or Koya San in Japan. When I first read about it, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.880 it sounded like some spiritual for your land, but no. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.440 It's about an hour east of Osaka. It's not very 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.920 high or notable, but in the center of Shingon Buddhism, 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.000 home to dozens of temples, some originally built over a 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.360 thousand years ago. It also has Japan's largest cemetery, a 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.520 beautiful area full of huge cedar trees and countless monuments 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.760 uh from a tiny moss covered Stupa's two giant memorials, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:25.439 including Kobodaishi's tomb. I visited twice, and it's one of 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.680 the most significant places in my early introduction to meditation 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.640 and Buddhism. It's an amazing place to visit, regardless, and 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.520 I hope to go back one day. All that said, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.439 I've been listening to stuff to blow your mind for 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.560 a few years now and love the strange and unexpected 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.240 corners of science and culture you look into and weird 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.520 how cinema is fantastic. I could listen to you guys 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.800 talk about movies all day. My suggestion, Hobo with a shotgun. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.000 Maybe it's two tongue in cheek to be true. Weird house, 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.360 but it's got Rutger howerd was inspired by one of 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.920 those Tarantino Grindhouse trailers and has some cameos only a 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.200 Canadian would appreciate. Thank you both of your continued work 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.120 to inform and inspire. It's been especially appreciated through a 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.400 year of working from home. Hope you and your families 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:09.040 continue to stay healthy, eat your beings. Cheers, Peggy. Oh, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.240 thanks Peggy. Well, you know, I would not have expected 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.319 a single email to be as as tightly focused about 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:19.520 shingon Buddhism and Hobo with a Shotgun. Uh. Yeah, I 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.959 really appreciate the thoughts on on on Japanese culture there, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.559 but also Hobo with a Shotgun was a lot of 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.640 fun when I watched it years back. I remember it 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.920 ultimately went places that were weirder than than anticipated. So 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.599 I I don't know for sure that it would be 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.280 something we would cover on Weird House, but I would 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.160 say that it's at least a possibility, given on on 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.880 how weird that film ultimately is. Like it, it takes 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.640 its initial, you know, grind housey concept and then goes 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:59.400 in some unexpected directions. All right, This next message comes 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:04.160 from Travis. Travis says, Dear Robert and Joe. Hello, I've 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.640 listened to your podcast in the past, probably since, but 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.000 recently got earbuds to where during work I pretty much 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.679 get six hours a day of YouTube or Chuck and 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.839 Josh on some occasions. I have consumed much of your 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.000 content in a very short period of time. I'm running 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:24.199 low on episodes. Travis goes on, Anyway, I've been meaning 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.640 to write in for a while, but have been occupied 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.200 with school. I just graduated with my bachelor's. During school, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.400 I worked stocking produce and continue to while I do 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.200 the deadly job hunt. Since listening to your tomato episode, 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.520 I have so much useful knowledge for work and home. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.040 I now almost subconsciously stocked the tomatoes with the stem 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.679 facing down to seal in moisture. I've been questioned by 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.760 co workers and had a logical explanation. Thanks well, Travis. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.080 I know that grind I have worked in a grocery 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.920 store as well. That I didn't do produce. I worked 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.520 in dry grocery and stocking stocking dairy. But yeah, I 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.000 know that world. Uh and I don't think I ever 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.920 got to listen to podcasts while I was doing it, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.320 so so so I hope that makes it more fun. Um. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.800 But anyway, back to the message, Travis says about your 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.360 leshy episode, I love mythology and the lushy is my 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.040 new favorite creature after you to introduced it to me. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.640 There's a Cartoon Network mini series I love called Over 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.160 the Garden Wall. If you're not familiar, I highly recommend it. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.080 I watch it every October so I won't spoil too much. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.800 There's a creature in the episode named the Beast. Once 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.760 I heard your Leshi podcast, it made me think of him. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.560 He's a forest creature who tricks and lures people who 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.920 wander into the woods. He keeps himself hidden. You never 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.160 see him until the last episode, when you get a 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.160 very brief shot. I will attach an image. It's not 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.480 really a spoiler to see him. Maybe he's based on 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.600 the leshy and Robbi attached the image that Travis attached 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.280 so you can have a look here. Oh yes, it's very, 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.000 very frightful. I actually watched I think the first episode 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.800 of this and remember remember thinking it was pretty cool 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.640 at the time. But yeah, it looks like I'll have 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.840 to go back and explore it for real. Travis attached 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.800 a link to a video that's like a song from 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.600 the show. That's a song about being a highwayman who 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.880 does crimes or something. It seemed fun, but anyway, Travis says, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.480 just a couple of fun tidbits for you, seriously, over 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.960 the garden Wall is great with an amazing soundtrack. Thanks 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.160 for taking the time to read. I love your podcast 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.040 and how much I learned. You guys are the reason 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.520 I got so into mythology and folk tales, and I 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.480 love Weird House cinema. I'm a film buff, So thank 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.280 you so much. Stay chatty and keep reading. All the best, Travis. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.120 All right, here's another bit of listener mail. This one 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.920 actually comes to us off of the stuff to Blow 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.520 your Mind discussion module, which is of course over there 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.280 on the Old Book of Faces. And this comes to 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.840 us from Cliff. Cliff writes in and says, I noticed 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.400 on the Weird House anema today and this is referring 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.800 to the episode we did on the Humanoid Um. The 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.560 fellows mentioned Moonraker and the girl that smiles at Jaws 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.600 that had braces on, well she did until September two 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.200 thousand eight. That's when the the Hadron collider was fully 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.960 functional and it shifted us into this reality. And then 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:25.840 there's a like a winking emoji that's included and um, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:31.840 Cliff includes this um this little screenshot UH from a 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.640 website of some sort that has a picture of Jaws 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.800 in the movie with the character Dolly, and the text 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.360 reads in the case of Dolly and Moonraker. It is 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.360 perhaps the way the sequence is edited that after Jaws 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.000 smiles and exposes his metal teeth, Dolly then smiles in 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.960 the next shot as the music hits its crescendo. The 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:57.760 actress who played Dolly, Blanche Ravallek, did not wear braces 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.000 in the film WHOA, Well, that's on me. I'm the 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.360 one who said that, so I this is one of 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.760 those things. This is uh. This is cited as one 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.399 of the many examples of the so called Mandela effect, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:12.840 to the effect where huge numbers of people apparently all 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.520 misremember events in the same way, and it very often 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:20.160 happens with scenes in movies. Lines in movies, for example, 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.760 like everybody thinking that the movie The Empire Strikes Back 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.560 has the line Luke, I am your father. The Darth 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.919 Vader never says that, uh, he says, he says, no, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:34.080 I am your father. And despite you know, the millions 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.399 and millions of people who remember it the wrong way. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.320 So apparently I'm not the only one who remember Dolly 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.640 in this movie as uh, you know, the the girl 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.480 that Jaws falls in love with as having braces. Maybe 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.720 I don't know. I'm not sure quite what it is 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.119 that created that misimpression. I mean I didn't specifically remember it, 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.720 but when you described it as such, I I instantly 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.160 saw it in my own head like I I then 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.200 like altered my memory of it, which is kind of 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.280 faint because I haven't seen Moonraker in a very long time. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:08.479 But you you're misremembering of it, like change my memory 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.239 of it. So perhaps that's you know that we can 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.120 sort of think about. That is like a way that 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.600 that these sort of things end up spreading from person 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.399 to person. I've got no excuse. I watched Moonraker once 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.320 a week. No, I mean I don't, but I I have. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.040 I've seen it way too many times to have that excuse. Well, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.600 it also just it sounds correct. It sounds like exactly 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:35.800 the kind of visual joke that this film would perpetrate. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.640 It has a it has a pigeon doing a double take, 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.480 so you think it also it would have Dolly with braces. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.160 That would make sense. You know, of course that that's 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.080 what they've got in common. They both have metal in 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.760 their mouths, but in fact, what they have in common is. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:54.359 I don't know, They're both just awkward and don't say much. Well, Cliff, 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.560 thanks for bringing that to our attention. Um, it's interesting 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:08.840 how our memories of of movies, particularly on Altar, like this. Okay, 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.360 we've got another message about weird house cinema. This one 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.200 comes from ian Ian, says hile thoroughly enjoying the new 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.840 directions you're taking the podcast in, and I have a 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:22.119 viewing suggestion. Frogs are just me too cold. What you 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.920 really need is something with a little more warm blood. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.439 Have you ever come across? Two is Night of the 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:32.879 leapis also released as Rabbits. I haven't seen it for 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.240 twenty years, but I still bear the mental scars, the 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.800 poor acting. Although we do get DeForest Kelly, people in 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:44.600 furry suits, padding with stock footage, dubious miniature sets, crawling 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.520 with petting zoo extras, stomping on cardboard. This film has 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.680 it all, along with the failure to realize that rabbits 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.199 just don't work as monsters. With the possible exception of 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.240 Frank maybe if it had just been James Duval in 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.639 the rabbit costumes. I'm not sure who the James Duval 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.480 there is referring to is that is that an actor 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.119 who is in Donnie Darko. I think that's the creepy 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.920 franc that's being referred to here, is it? I don't 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.960 remember on that front. Unless this is supposed to refer 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.720 to Robert Duval, I don't know. Uh well, I'll check 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.159 on that later. Anyway, Ian goes on it truly is 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.479 worth a watch as a shining example of how not 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.480 to make a horror film. Keep the wonderful episodes coming 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:28.080 your regular companions in my dark underground laboratory. Ian, Well, 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:32.200 you know two so that movie is right in there, 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.400 the same year as Frogs. So yeah, I wonder if 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.840 the rabbits are created by pollution or by animal experimentation 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.760 gone wrong. Yeah, I've never seen it in its entirety, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.320 but this is one I remember, I think catching part 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.760 of on T B S or t n T, like 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.160 in the lazy middle of a Saturday or Sunday afternoon 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:55.600 and just seeing the rabbits stampede across the Minitri city. 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.400 If I am not mistaken, I believe it was featured 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:02.800 on t n T is recurring segment Monster Vision. Do 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.800 you remember this thing? Oh? Yeah, yeah, with Joe Bob Riggs. Yeah, 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.600 but anyway, I remember this being basically frogs but with 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:18.280 rabbits instead of all the amphibians and reptiles. All right, 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.920 here's another one. This one comes to us from Riley 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:25.560 with the subject heading shock waves seven. Great job, guys. 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.080 Loved this movie since seeing it as a kid. Great 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.600 to revisit. I've always felt like this movie inspired one 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:36.240 of the of Lord Humongous is Dogs of War from 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.480 The Road Warrior. In one watched the boomerang scene you 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:42.520 will know of whom I right to keep up the 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.399 great work, Riley. Well, I did not. I was not 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:47.480 able to go back and rewatch this. But what I'm 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.199 guessing Riley saying is that there's a character in The 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.919 Road Warrior who is wearing goggles like the goggles the 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:59.400 Nazis the Nazi zombies are wearing in chock Waves. Okay, yeah, 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.240 It's been a long time since I've seen The Road 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.560 Warrior as well. Um, I don't know, may maybe I 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.480 need to give it a revisit. Maybe it's just too 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:13.840 too much, too much time has passed, I don't know. Alright. 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.840 This next message comes from Chris. The subject line is 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:21.000 waxy looking old movies. Chris says there's a setting on 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.760 h D t vs that causes this, and it can 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:29.159 be reversed. It's generally called motion smoothing only beneficial really 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.440 in sports, you can go to your settings and turn 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:33.480