Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin
Speaker 1: to Grab and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like
Speaker 1: and we have the whole team with us today, Mr
Speaker 1: Gavin Degage Ride and co host What's up? Get all
Speaker 1: right out there? I t you up and that's all
Speaker 1: you got. That's all I got, Bro. I know you
Speaker 1: had more people to introduce, so I didn't want to
Speaker 1: go off on a tangent. Here's my tangent. We're buddy.
Speaker 1: We got got Dmitri. Dmitri, what's up? Brother? Who? I
Speaker 1: thought we're all kind of doing that. That's going on?
Speaker 1: What's up? I'm good, Good to see you guys. You
Speaker 1: look relaxed, but have everyone on here. You look relaxed.
Speaker 1: The weirdest thing is that I'm not at all not
Speaker 1: looking relaxed, but looking tough and in very intense. We
Speaker 1: got Ryan, Ryan, what's up? Bro? Oh? Yeah? Whoa brooks
Speaker 1: so forever you guys? Wait right, wait, Ryan, you're looking
Speaker 1: like uh, you're looking like uh what's his name? Uh?
Speaker 1: In a breakfast club doing this thing? Yeah thing? Yes?
Speaker 1: Then can somebody take a screenshot of this because we
Speaker 1: need to show this to our how many Thike listeners?
Speaker 1: Ryan looks like he's got on a wrestling outfit. I
Speaker 1: am in the middle of in about fifteen minutes, I
Speaker 1: need to go put the children down for for bedtime,
Speaker 1: so I'm in my bedtime attire right now. I sweat
Speaker 1: because it's very stressful. I'm wearing a tank top. Thank you,
Speaker 1: my God, look like you're gonna suplex the children. One
Speaker 1: to require dude. I want to say congrats to all
Speaker 1: of you because you know what it is. Today, it's
Speaker 1: our one year anniversary of the How Men Think Pot.
Speaker 1: We did it. We made it to a year considering
Speaker 1: the very first line of this podcast was Gavin saying,
Speaker 1: we're just trying not to say stuff to wreck our
Speaker 1: own careers. True, we made it. I don't know about you, guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm still waiting for a check. It's been a year.
Speaker 1: It's true. We really started this podcast to get Gavin
Speaker 1: and Grotto, but so all all of our checks have
Speaker 1: kind of just been going Gavin's way. Yeah, right, once
Speaker 1: and yet and yet where is he? He's in an
Speaker 1: empty room with a guitar. That's right. You paid for
Speaker 1: all this decorating right here. See decorating. So we're really
Speaker 1: making money then? Oh yeah. Um, so for this UM,
Speaker 1: it's been quite a year. I'll say that it's been
Speaker 1: absolutely unreal to get to know you guys and and
Speaker 1: to have powerful conversations with men in different stages, different backgrounds,
Speaker 1: different perspectives of life. UM and Easton, our incredible engineer
Speaker 1: is going to ask us some questions today about the
Speaker 1: last year, about this journey of the how Man podcast.
Speaker 1: Eastern you want to take it away, brother, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1: Let me pull up those questions one sec. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that prepared. Maybe when the checks come right and go
Speaker 1: and buy the rest of his sleeves, maybe you could
Speaker 1: buy a sense of humor. I don't know. Dmitri and
Speaker 1: I are laugh Hey Rick, the jerk store call that
Speaker 1: ran out of you and I would I were just
Speaker 1: steal in Seinfeld lines. These guys, we're one year in
Speaker 1: and we're stealing lines from Steinfeld. Come on celebratory night, Rick, Actually,
Speaker 1: hold on one sec. You know what I think the line.
Speaker 1: Let's here's a question to you guys. What do you
Speaker 1: think the line of the year was? I have mine
Speaker 1: the funniest moment of the year. Oh, I know what
Speaker 1: yours is. It's the one that Ryan said when he
Speaker 1: goes mind. Oh no, No, that was a good one.
Speaker 1: That was a good one. The the hardest I laughed,
Speaker 1: I think all the year was Dmitri when you said,
Speaker 1: what's Judy sex? It was with Leela Debil We did.
Speaker 1: I think it was like episode four, Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: you just were I just looked at you and you
Speaker 1: said it right at the perfect moment. And because anybody
Speaker 1: heard it, what did she say? She said duty sex,
Speaker 1: meaning like you have to do it. Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: all heard Judy sex. And she's like, you know how
Speaker 1: you have Judy sex? And we're all like the room
Speaker 1: just got quiet, and I was like, I'm assuming everyone
Speaker 1: else hearned out. I don't know. Yeah, grant that I'm
Speaker 1: not like sexual, no at all, but I've never heard
Speaker 1: of Judy sex. And I was for sure that wasn't
Speaker 1: in your Comma Sutra instructional. Does anybody else have off?
Speaker 1: This is just off the cuff? Does anybody else have
Speaker 1: a line? The funniest line of the year, the funniest
Speaker 1: thing somebody said the entire year. God, no, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't remember the year. I mean, I think if
Speaker 1: you remember, I gotta go to Gavin. And the problem,
Speaker 1: the reason that I don't remember is because it was
Speaker 1: one of those just that he yells out. He's yelled
Speaker 1: out things like where's my check, He's yelled out things
Speaker 1: like I need a steak. So he's yelled out these
Speaker 1: random you know, it's gonna come to me. He didn't
Speaker 1: yell out one at one point somebody else go, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna come to me. He yelled at something so random,
Speaker 1: and I was like, it took me a minute to
Speaker 1: realize what the hell he was talking about. This is
Speaker 1: This is the one that I thought was Gavin's best
Speaker 1: one of remembering how he does all the hypotheticals. If
Speaker 1: you listen to How Many Think podcasts, you'll find a
Speaker 1: Gavin de Graw hypothetical. And the best one of all
Speaker 1: time was talking about uni brow a woman like if
Speaker 1: a woman shaving her eyebrows, maybe she might need a
Speaker 1: uni brow in case she gets stuck in cold weather
Speaker 1: outside of the Mall America Wall of America in Minneaports. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was that her car broke down and she needed
Speaker 1: the warmth. That was the day that the listeners realized
Speaker 1: that none of this was scripted, because there's no in
Speaker 1: hell anyone would script that. It's just a crazy mind
Speaker 1: to Gavin to grow. Mean, what if she needed a
Speaker 1: uni brow to keep warm? Yeah, okay, that's clear to
Speaker 1: nip the small sweater out of and wear it does?
Speaker 1: Does anybody else have a line or should we go
Speaker 1: to Easton? No? I was trying to think of something funny,
Speaker 1: you said. Over the course of the year, Brooks and
Speaker 1: I have yet to come up with anything, so we
Speaker 1: should probably all right, he said, you're up, Wow, after
Speaker 1: that devastating burn out. Here's our first question. What have
Speaker 1: you learned about yourself in the last year? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: getting fatter. I went from a thirty three to thirty six?
Speaker 1: Does that? Does that work? Podcast? Life does not sit
Speaker 1: well with you? Well, fun I've learned that I like
Speaker 1: Rick's second shin better than his third. Oh man, this
Speaker 1: is not This is not the way this show was
Speaker 1: meant to go. You should go back to the Seinfeld quotes.
Speaker 1: These guys gonna start you think, I mean tears by
Speaker 1: the time this is over. Serious Okay, two to three
Speaker 1: sentences each guy? What have you learned the most about
Speaker 1: you or something unique that you've learned about yourself through
Speaker 1: this journey the last year, Rick, you're up, I'll go,
Speaker 1: uh podcast journey. You know, to be honest, At the
Speaker 1: very beginning, I was talking to Amy when we were
Speaker 1: just you know, coming up with a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was super hesitant on doing it. Um. I
Speaker 1: never thought that I was going to be a somebody
Speaker 1: to talk and be on the radio or a podcast
Speaker 1: or any of that nature. And UM, I am certainly
Speaker 1: glad that I did it. Um. It was sort of
Speaker 1: a fear of mine. I wouldn't consider this public speaking,
Speaker 1: but I think when you hear yourself on a microphone, UM,
Speaker 1: or you listen to an episode, I always kind of cramped, like,
Speaker 1: oh that was me. But I've definitely gotten over that fear,
Speaker 1: and that was something this podcast helped me leap over. UM.
Speaker 1: And so now when I'm talking to work colleagues or
Speaker 1: I'm on a running a meeting or anything of that nature,
Speaker 1: I think this has actually really helped me. UM. And
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you guys, which is super comfortable and fun,
Speaker 1: but we're also talking to our audience, right. So UM,
Speaker 1: that was something that I definitely learned and enjoyed through
Speaker 1: this journey with you guys. So it's been fabulous and um,
Speaker 1: I always think about it and I'm always laughing at
Speaker 1: the end of these awesome I do what about your brother? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, well, I'm not gonna I don't know if
Speaker 1: the question was meant to be what we've learned most
Speaker 1: about ourselves through the podcast or just in general over
Speaker 1: the last year, I would say, Um, for me, I
Speaker 1: and this isn't part based on the the amount of
Speaker 1: feedback I've gotten from you guys and from listeners, which
Speaker 1: basically my takeaway is that I need to be make
Speaker 1: concerted efforts in the next year to be more go
Speaker 1: with the flow. I think I'm very schedule oriented, regimented.
Speaker 1: I think structure gives me sanity and peace of mind.
Speaker 1: But I need to find a happy medium as best
Speaker 1: I can to have to be able to just be
Speaker 1: flexible and not be so regimented with schedule. And I'm
Speaker 1: going to make strides to do exactly that. That's powerful awareness, dude.
Speaker 1: I can resonate with that because I was the same way.
Speaker 1: I was very when my schedule got interrupted. It just
Speaker 1: derailed my whole like thing like, So that's powerful awareness.
Speaker 1: That's I'm I'm happy for you, but that's that's incredible.
Speaker 1: I will tell you my my two children are waiting
Speaker 1: for me to put them down right now, which is later.
Speaker 1: It will be later than normal. And the amount of
Speaker 1: anxiety I have is tremendous. So how long will it take? You?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go? Do it now? And we'll
Speaker 1: ask the other guys this question. No, keep going, keep going, Dmitri,
Speaker 1: that's the big step right there, he said, keep going.
Speaker 1: He's gonna roll with it. Uh. I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: what I've realized over this year doing the podcast is, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not as open as I originally thought. It was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I got a lot of feeling I don't
Speaker 1: share a lot of feelings. I don't share a lot
Speaker 1: of memories. I don't share a lot of things that
Speaker 1: kind of affected my life. And um, and I think
Speaker 1: I've I've grown work accustomed to that. Number one, I
Speaker 1: think we have such a a good We get along
Speaker 1: so well, the five of us, and I think as
Speaker 1: we were talking it it was like the microphone wasn't
Speaker 1: there and we were just really having a conversation and
Speaker 1: that kind of helped me. And then seeing some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that people would post in this that you know,
Speaker 1: I realized that it's not just about me saying maybe
Speaker 1: what I'm feeling or things that in my life that
Speaker 1: have affected me. Like, there's people going through things, and
Speaker 1: there's people that maybe don't talk either. Maybe here's something
Speaker 1: and it helps them. So, you know, I realized that
Speaker 1: while I was keeping a lot of things close to
Speaker 1: the best, whether part consciously in part subconsciously, I think
Speaker 1: I realized that it was wasn't It's not necessarily the
Speaker 1: best thing for me or you know, maybe for other people. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, bro, Gavin, you want to write a song
Speaker 1: about that? Your turn? You're out a way to rhyme
Speaker 1: all that. Uh what have I learned? I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've learned anything other than I
Speaker 1: need to have more canned food here. Thank god, that's
Speaker 1: what I learned earned. Uh, you know, the COVID thing
Speaker 1: taught me a whole lot about just because I don't
Speaker 1: cook at the house doesn't mean I shouldn't have some
Speaker 1: stuff here in case I had to. Uh. So there's
Speaker 1: always that. The other one is, you know, a g
Speaker 1: whiz guys, so nice to have friends and uh nice
Speaker 1: to be able to talk to people about just a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of random that otherwise I'd just be, you know,
Speaker 1: having this one conversation basically with with just very very
Speaker 1: probably one or two other guys that I that I know.
Speaker 1: But it's nice. Uh, it's nice to not get paid
Speaker 1: for this time with you and uh to Uh that's
Speaker 1: probably my favorite part. No man, I I mean I
Speaker 1: I think I've learned. I've learned it several little things. Uh,
Speaker 1: one of which is, uh, I'm really happy to be single.
Speaker 1: You guys can film that for me every day and
Speaker 1: uh and uh no, and because I think it's important
Speaker 1: for all you all to have a single friend at
Speaker 1: all times. And I like being that guy because I
Speaker 1: can get off the phone one of you and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what such and such, just it about what's
Speaker 1: going on. Oh no way, seriously, I think that get
Speaker 1: to do that is he's in the conversation with himself
Speaker 1: over there like I'm sorry, I forgot you guys are
Speaker 1: on my zoom. Um yeah, give us one one thing
Speaker 1: the podcasts like really made you aware of her? How
Speaker 1: did like two to three sentences real quick? Because we
Speaker 1: bring on the next question. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I think probably the best thing that's happened on the
Speaker 1: podcast is that I could have conversations with professionals and
Speaker 1: topics on kind of touchy subjects of things without ever
Speaker 1: having to say that I went to a shrink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's cool. Yeah, I get you. UM. For me,
Speaker 1: it's been actually because I I was as you were saying,
Speaker 1: I resonated with what you were saying. Dmitri on. As
Speaker 1: a guy, I just stuffed bottled. Every emotion was very
Speaker 1: just internalized everything. UM. Didn't outwardly express any emotion anything
Speaker 1: like that, and so I was no good at emotional intelligence.
Speaker 1: I had no emotional intelligence and capacity to express emotion.
Speaker 1: And it was one of the reasons why I wanted
Speaker 1: to do this podcast was to step into a space
Speaker 1: where I had to learn to and and train the
Speaker 1: muscle and practice UM expressing myself more and opening up more.
Speaker 1: And I have felt amazingly expressed and relaxed through this
Speaker 1: journey through sharing this stuff on the podcast, through this
Speaker 1: space that we all five create hold a safe space
Speaker 1: for each other to share what they are going through,
Speaker 1: to share their hearts. Uh. And I've never in my
Speaker 1: life felt more emotionally expressed, and it's been absolutely wonderful
Speaker 1: for me. Easter. Next question, Okay, next question, what surprise
Speaker 1: you most about one of the other guys? Mm hmm anybody?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'll start, uh So, I'll give you two
Speaker 1: quick things, the first of which would be I'll touch
Speaker 1: on Brooks. Uh So, all the guys that played hockey,
Speaker 1: and you know that I played soccer in college. All
Speaker 1: the hockey players a bunch of Canadian guys. Uh. I
Speaker 1: thought I had hockey guys figured out because they were
Speaker 1: just complete bros. Brooks. I thought he was gonna be
Speaker 1: just a stereotypical hockey guy, uh which means not very deep,
Speaker 1: just a bro. But he's a very deep human being.
Speaker 1: And at first I question if that was authentic admittedly,
Speaker 1: or kind of saying what he thought he had to say.
Speaker 1: But having gotten to know him of the course of
Speaker 1: a year, we have a great rapport. We we bust
Speaker 1: each other's balls. Some people think it's offensive, and I'm
Speaker 1: mean too, Brooks. Uh Brooks has a thick skin and
Speaker 1: it's part of our stick. But I would say that
Speaker 1: he's he's a very genuine, real human being with deep
Speaker 1: values and I respect that about him that I question
Speaker 1: at the beginning. I believe he's completely authentic and I've
Speaker 1: learned that over the course of the last year. And
Speaker 1: the second thing I will say is that I learned
Speaker 1: that Gavin we had an amazing time together, uh, probably
Speaker 1: ten months ago at this point in London. We had
Speaker 1: beers over lunch. He was a true gentleman. He walked
Speaker 1: me about ten miles through the park back to my hotel.
Speaker 1: Was very very gentlemanlike of him. Uh, and then we
Speaker 1: said goodbye. But we had an amazing conversation over beers
Speaker 1: and like really bonded and I value the friendship I
Speaker 1: have with both of you, and slightly with Dmitri and Rick.
Speaker 1: That was awesome, brother, Thank you so much. That was
Speaker 1: a great day right in London. That was Um, d
Speaker 1: meet your ear turner. What's something that surprised you about
Speaker 1: that you've learned out about one of the guys. Well,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's kind of weird to follow that because mine,
Speaker 1: actually I think has to be Gavin as well. Um,
Speaker 1: I think you just have a brooks. You and I
Speaker 1: had met once, we had lunch and stuff before things
Speaker 1: got started, so I kind of had an idea. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, I met Gavin ten minutes before the
Speaker 1: first episode. I think we all did. And it was
Speaker 1: like I didn't know what to think. You know, you
Speaker 1: think rock stars they got a certain thing, they're a
Speaker 1: certain way that Honestly, if I didn't know that he was,
Speaker 1: you know, did what he did. He had his fan
Speaker 1: base and and and stuff like that, I wouldn't I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have guessed. He's such a normal guy. And it's
Speaker 1: funny Ryan mentioned London, but mine was up in Tahoe.
Speaker 1: Man like Gavin came up. He brought in his zong
Speaker 1: but eat and uh, we just got to talk in
Speaker 1: and we're like, all right, we're bored. We at some
Speaker 1: time to kill. Rick was training to swim across the lake,
Speaker 1: and so we went for a ride around the lake
Speaker 1: and you know, we went and got coffee and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then later that night with Rick and stuff where
Speaker 1: we were up late having some drinks and he started
Speaker 1: talking about you know, just just so all day long.
Speaker 1: It was a fantastic just like getting to know you.
Speaker 1: And he was such a normal guy, and he was
Speaker 1: such a deep guy and I know, you think, well,
Speaker 1: he writes great songs, so he's deep, he's got but
Speaker 1: it was interesting to be able to talk to him
Speaker 1: like that. And then that night, and I remember Rick
Speaker 1: and I talked about it that night, I see you
Speaker 1: right that night he started talking about meeting Billy Joel,
Speaker 1: who happens to be one of my favorite musicians. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, and and he he told some
Speaker 1: amazing stories, and I thought, so long story short. I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be your typical guy. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get what we get from him in this net. But man,
Speaker 1: when when he's you know, even when he's off the clock,
Speaker 1: he's a pretty good dude. Ye Man, thank you bro too,
Speaker 1: man Rick. Yeah, both both guys are hard to follow.
Speaker 1: Good god. Um, I think my takeaway from this podcast
Speaker 1: so far is with you guys, is you know, going
Speaker 1: into it, I didn't know any of you right, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, and we're all sort of within the same
Speaker 1: age group time frame, give or take five to eight years.
Speaker 1: But getting to know you every time i'd fly down there,
Speaker 1: getting to know you every time we talked or we
Speaker 1: did a zoom call, um, whether we were down at
Speaker 1: the steakhouse having a quick beer after recording, and I
Speaker 1: had to go to the airport or whatever I think
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. But the whole point
Speaker 1: of this podcast is for men to open up and
Speaker 1: to share their experiences and their feelings and how they interact. Um.
Speaker 1: And to me, that was, you know, coming in and
Speaker 1: actually getting to know each one of you guys, and
Speaker 1: to be able to now pick up the phone or
Speaker 1: get a text from Dmitri and Ryan or Brooks or whoever.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's like, hey, are you guys, You're okay?
Speaker 1: How's life like? Not even having to do with the podcast. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just like, hey, I started a new job, Like
Speaker 1: how's the job going, how you know, how you doing,
Speaker 1: How's how the kids? Or you know, it's like to
Speaker 1: have that ability with the five five of you, with
Speaker 1: five of us, four of you. UM, that's my takeaway,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really nice to have. It's you know,
Speaker 1: so I hope it's reciprocal obviously. UM, but that that
Speaker 1: I extremely appreciate. Amazing buddy, Thanks for yeah. Next question,
Speaker 1: please come on, man, I'm kidding, no, all these guys
Speaker 1: now the Uh, Honestly, I think I think it everything
Speaker 1: that everyone said so far, I can I can literally say,
Speaker 1: did on on all of it. I think everybody is
Speaker 1: uh has been able to open up to each other,
Speaker 1: not just on here, but um but off the mic,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, on the phone or just
Speaker 1: you know, normal shooting type type talk. You know that
Speaker 1: that uh you know, regular friends would have, which is
Speaker 1: a nice thing to be able to have. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, once you once you give people the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt to give them a minute to to
Speaker 1: show themselves to you, and they reveal themselves to you,
Speaker 1: you get to pick up who who who they are.
Speaker 1: And every one of these guys as has a lot
Speaker 1: to offer and and I think that the beauty of
Speaker 1: each of them and all you guys is that you
Speaker 1: you don't you don't go around telling everybody, uh you know,
Speaker 1: how well you do and how good you are at
Speaker 1: what you do, um and and you don't have to
Speaker 1: you know. In fact, I think you know, in some
Speaker 1: cultures it's it's insulting to even talk about your your
Speaker 1: career much you or even ask anybody, hey, what do
Speaker 1: you do? You know what I mean? And so it's
Speaker 1: with us, I think the way we gell in general,
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a base on what we do, what
Speaker 1: our profession is it's we get along in a in
Speaker 1: a character sinse and and every one of you guys
Speaker 1: have had some special time with uh learning learning you
Speaker 1: not necessarily learning your jobs or or or uh you know,
Speaker 1: your your profession or how you make an income, but
Speaker 1: learning learning your personality types. And you know, I see
Speaker 1: a handful of winners all being able to hang out
Speaker 1: with each other and not be competitive with each other.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a beautiful thing. And I appreciate
Speaker 1: being in the club here. Awesome buddy, Thanks for sharing, dude.
Speaker 1: Real mine would be uh. I'll start with Ryan, Dmitri
Speaker 1: and Rick. The fact that all three of you guys
Speaker 1: are fathers, and I have the utmost admiration for fathers
Speaker 1: and for you three, um, because of the conversations we've had,
Speaker 1: because of what you have shared with me about how
Speaker 1: much joy and love being a father brings to your
Speaker 1: heart and and how it's like how when you speak
Speaker 1: about your kids, you guys absolutely light up, you know,
Speaker 1: and you also share that it's tough. You also share
Speaker 1: that yeah, sometimes it's very tough as well, it's the
Speaker 1: toughest job you'll ever have to do. Or sometimes you're
Speaker 1: exhausted or this or that, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you always choose them, and you always speak
Speaker 1: about your kids with love, and um, it's an area,
Speaker 1: none none area, it's a it's a phase of life
Speaker 1: where I hope to get to one day to be
Speaker 1: a father. So UM, I love learning from you, guys.
Speaker 1: I love listening to you guys, and I love the
Speaker 1: fact that you choose your families. Every single day. You
Speaker 1: speak about your families and your kids as they are
Speaker 1: the greatest priority in your life and everything else lines
Speaker 1: up behind them. So I have a huge admiration for
Speaker 1: you three gentlemen, for that, um, and then for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I knew your music before, but I'm super blown
Speaker 1: away by, as Dmitri said, your depth. Um, you see
Speaker 1: the world in a really unique and intricate way, and
Speaker 1: you have an amazing perspective, and you have really deep,
Speaker 1: profound thoughts that sometimes leave the rest of us just
Speaker 1: in like awe, You'll say stuff that's just beautiful in
Speaker 1: the whole room kind of just like pauses for a sect,
Speaker 1: just to let that thought, that sentiment sink in. And
Speaker 1: so UM, I can see where the the heart and
Speaker 1: the intent comes from in your songs and where the
Speaker 1: creativity and the artist, um, it's expressed through song. And
Speaker 1: I think us four are so privileged to just have
Speaker 1: the conversation with you, um, to see the artistry behind
Speaker 1: what other people here through their record player, through the radio.
Speaker 1: You know. I think that's just such a wonderful privilege.
Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I feel like you give too much credit, Honestly.
Speaker 1: I I talked to you guys like I, you know,
Speaker 1: like I talked to anybody. And I think you all
Speaker 1: do the same. And it's that's how we we all,
Speaker 1: we all you know, talk our own different versions of
Speaker 1: of our language and express ourselves and our our best capacity,
Speaker 1: uh and trying to explain ourselves to each other. And
Speaker 1: and uh, it's a beautiful compliment, man, Really, honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what to say. Very very flattered by that,
Speaker 1: and we were all kind of can. I love that
Speaker 1: about you too. I love how you break with a
Speaker 1: real subtle humor also, you know, and you know, one
Speaker 1: of the other things I like about this group is that,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's got a sense of humor. Everybody likes
Speaker 1: to google off, everybody likes to go around, everybody likes
Speaker 1: to talk to each other. But I also think that
Speaker 1: part of part of what makes it special is we
Speaker 1: all also make it a point to get deep and um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just a lot locker room of
Speaker 1: hazing happening here and uh, and it's it's nice to
Speaker 1: be to be in that that setting and at least
Speaker 1: have that understanding with each other that we can't get
Speaker 1: deep with each other, you know. I mean, obviously we
Speaker 1: all have our own versions of a filter and things
Speaker 1: like that. We all have other lives and stuff, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, but we we certainly, I think we we
Speaker 1: expose what we what we allow ourselves to expose. And
Speaker 1: I think it certainly is a lot awesome Eastern Next question, Bro,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, Ga Well said, yeah, man, you too, Bro,
Speaker 1: Thank you man. All right, from the last year of
Speaker 1: the podcast, what's your favorite episode? Ryan? You're out? I
Speaker 1: that put you on the spot. Now it's a good question.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you that the anxiety level has
Speaker 1: risen on me putting the children to bed, so in
Speaker 1: the interesting isn't around. It's time that Brooks just said
Speaker 1: he likes you because your dad you always bet your
Speaker 1: kids first, and they're they're tearing up the place in
Speaker 1: the room. I was like thinking to myself, that's the
Speaker 1: perfect segue me saying thank you Brooks and and with that,
Speaker 1: I am going to have to quickly go try to
Speaker 1: deal with that. Uh, don't do it. How men think
Speaker 1: that is how I think. I am anxious. My wife
Speaker 1: needs help. I'm trying to maintain a marriage and a
Speaker 1: happy household. Please let me go do this. Go do it, brother,
Speaker 1: We'll be here when you're back. I love you, Happy anniversary,
Speaker 1: thank you, happy to his His his favorite episode was
Speaker 1: any one of the ones where he had high anxiety,
Speaker 1: so meet you. My favorite episode of Brian was the
Speaker 1: one me you and Ryan did where he talked, he
Speaker 1: told the story about how you doctor the doctor. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Um, that was my favorite Ryan moment. But Dmitri,
Speaker 1: go ahead, your favorite episode of the year. M you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna I hope. This isn't an easy
Speaker 1: an easy answer, but I think it's got to be
Speaker 1: the first one because because like we said, we didn't
Speaker 1: really and I'm not saying it was our best episode.
Speaker 1: I mean, Gavin was like two ft from the mic.
Speaker 1: So all the comments after the Flagship episode was hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on somebody that had to talk up. But
Speaker 1: the fact is we didn't like. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: met you Brooks for a quick lunch. Rick I had met,
Speaker 1: we had drinks. Ryan I had met in the past
Speaker 1: through work, but just briefly. And Gavin, you know, walked
Speaker 1: in ten minutes before the first episode. So I don't
Speaker 1: think any of us really knew each other. And I
Speaker 1: think the point of the podcast was, you know, how
Speaker 1: it got how men think. So we're gonna sit down,
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk, and that's truly what we did that day.
Speaker 1: And I thought the conversation was so interesting and I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, we all, for as different as we are,
Speaker 1: we all had a little bit of a similarity enough
Speaker 1: that we could talk and we could get along. And
Speaker 1: so there was a lot of questions arks leading up
Speaker 1: to that first episode. Um about when it was done,
Speaker 1: I felt like we had a pretty good friendship right there.
Speaker 1: Um And so for me that I think that was
Speaker 1: the best episode because of that. That was that was
Speaker 1: so fun. We all had no idea how that was
Speaker 1: gonna go. And when we got done, we all looked
Speaker 1: at each other were like, day, that was pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember that, Yeah, Rick, your favorite episode
Speaker 1: from the year. You know, I think, uh, well, this
Speaker 1: one's not over, so I can't say this one right well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's going that well for you, I
Speaker 1: mean I think it's pretty good. I left. No, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was. If I could actually say
Speaker 1: it's it was definitely a fun episode. Unfortunately, Brooke you
Speaker 1: weren't there and Ryan wasn't there. But I think it
Speaker 1: was a combination of the episode and then obviously the
Speaker 1: weekend that was going on, um, And I'd have to
Speaker 1: say it was the one we did in like Tahoe,
Speaker 1: um where we were swimming across the race the lake
Speaker 1: excuse me, and Davin was there and Dmitri was there
Speaker 1: and we were getting questions ping from a lot of
Speaker 1: the Batchelrette girls. That was so that was so terrible,
Speaker 1: wasn't it having all those It was horrible, And I
Speaker 1: want is my favorite episode except you did the whole
Speaker 1: thing in a speedo. So I did the whole thing
Speaker 1: in my speedo, which is not why I brought that
Speaker 1: one up. But it wasn't this again, may not. I
Speaker 1: mean the episode was awesome. I loved it, but to me,
Speaker 1: it was also the camaraderie that was built during that weekend, um,
Speaker 1: as Dmitri mentioned earlier, and it was just kind of
Speaker 1: like some of my buddies were there, and it was
Speaker 1: just it was a really fun thing and it just,
Speaker 1: uh it really I kind of drove away from that
Speaker 1: home going, Man, this is really something special. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what about you? Do you have any episode that sticks
Speaker 1: out it's your favorite? Those were all yeah, man, those
Speaker 1: were all awesome. Um Man, you know what I thought
Speaker 1: The one we had with uh Freddie Prince Jr. Was amazing.
Speaker 1: I thought that guy told great stories. He had a
Speaker 1: lot of insight, you know, he just he brought something
Speaker 1: that that uh I hadn't seen yet on the on
Speaker 1: these you know what we we've been doing, and he
Speaker 1: had he had such a level of comfort on the
Speaker 1: mic and with himself, UM, great sense of humor, really
Speaker 1: well read, a lot of just so many interests, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: it's great when people have just these you know, some
Speaker 1: some people have just an extraordinary amount of interest and
Speaker 1: they delve very, very very far into them. UM. And
Speaker 1: I found that got to be just so much more
Speaker 1: fascinating than I had anticipated. Um. And that episode really, uh,
Speaker 1: that really got me because he went the guy he
Speaker 1: was just he was so entertaining to me. You know,
Speaker 1: it was I was just sitting there just kind of
Speaker 1: listening to him, you know, tell his story is, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it just felt like he just had the
Speaker 1: whole thing just so so well handled. I was kind
Speaker 1: of blown away beyond to be honest with you, comfortable.
Speaker 1: Let me just say that I'm glad that Freddie Prince Jr.
Speaker 1: Can be to you what we all just said you
Speaker 1: were to us. I'm trying to think that some of
Speaker 1: mine because I've done some episodes, yeah, with some gas
Speaker 1: like Dave Hollis. The episode with Dave Hollis was wonderful
Speaker 1: because I feel like he's like I related so personally
Speaker 1: to it. I feel like he's a couple of years
Speaker 1: ahead of me and life journey. He's a couple of
Speaker 1: years older and Nick I see myself going through the
Speaker 1: same stuff that Dave was talking about. So that was
Speaker 1: really cool for me. The episode I just did last
Speaker 1: week with Scott Evans, a discussion about racism that's really
Speaker 1: current to what's going on in the world today. Um,
Speaker 1: that was so like powerful and like having a having
Speaker 1: a space to have these meaningful conversations. I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: for that. Um, But I'm also just thinking about how
Speaker 1: many times, how many times we laughed over the past year,
Speaker 1: how many times I drove home after recording two episodes
Speaker 1: at the studio and just laughing and just like just
Speaker 1: have just had the best time and didn't even think
Speaker 1: that we haven't even got paid for this. You know,
Speaker 1: you're aful for the opportunity to get together and laugh
Speaker 1: with you guys. And in Pebble Beach we had a
Speaker 1: bunch of laughs. Um. Just I don't know just the
Speaker 1: amount of laughter. I don't know if I could pick
Speaker 1: a single favorite episode, but the amount of laughter that
Speaker 1: being around you guys has brought into my life for sure.
Speaker 1: Brooks Brooks, Brooks, were you laughing when you drive home?
Speaker 1: Because you were in l A and you drive a
Speaker 1: lecture car and you're like gas prices? It was less
Speaker 1: about when we brought to the table more I'll save
Speaker 1: the money. We got it, uh, Eastern next question, brother,
Speaker 1: we got two more right? This is actually the last one. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so so make it a good one. Uh. What's the
Speaker 1: goal you have for year two? Mm hmm, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get back down to a thirty three. You got Rick,
Speaker 1: get that SWEETO or that SWEETO. Know the SWEETO sweet
Speaker 1: sweet sweet It just got a new name. Oh my god. Um,
Speaker 1: your turn. What was the question, Eastern? What's the goal
Speaker 1: for the season two? We're in season two here? One
Speaker 1: of my goals? I mean sure, this is like the
Speaker 1: rsc l N E on wheel Fort everybody's everyone gets
Speaker 1: the answer of I want to get paid. Let's move.
Speaker 1: So the next answer, uh No. To be honest, I
Speaker 1: feel like we've opened up on certain subjects, certain topics
Speaker 1: for this podcast, but I think, in all honesty, I
Speaker 1: think I could probably do a better job. Um. I
Speaker 1: want to be able to share more. And obviously being
Speaker 1: new to this whole podcasting, um, to me, it was
Speaker 1: sort of getting in the field for it all and
Speaker 1: getting that. And now that I feel like I have
Speaker 1: that or a little bit of it, um, I can
Speaker 1: sort of open up about things that I may not
Speaker 1: have wanted to share early earlier. Um. So that's something
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on, which I think is going to
Speaker 1: make all of this podcast going forward, all of our
Speaker 1: recordings more intriguing. Awesome, Rick, good for you buddy here. UM,
Speaker 1: I think I wanna. I want to do more. And
Speaker 1: so I feel like we got the whole. Like we
Speaker 1: get along and we laugh, we bust each other's balls
Speaker 1: and that's cool. And it's been a real fun year
Speaker 1: of that, and we have had some real serious conversations
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But what I'd like to do is, um,
Speaker 1: I think it would be fun. It's not dissimilar to
Speaker 1: what rich you said. I think I'd like to take
Speaker 1: it to the next level. And what I'd like to
Speaker 1: do is is explore conversations that we have or thoughts
Speaker 1: that we have with each other, as opposed to just
Speaker 1: stuff that's already set in stone, you know what I mean, Like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a dad. But so, as you were saying your
Speaker 1: your episode last week on racism, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think we all bring good perspectives to the table,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to have more conversations about life and
Speaker 1: and and be able to help people out that way
Speaker 1: as opposed to just you know, I had busting each
Speaker 1: other's balls and be like, all right, you're a dad,
Speaker 1: you're a swimmer, you know, and we easy each other.
Speaker 1: But I think we I think we have a lot
Speaker 1: of depth and I think we bring a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff in the table, and so I'd like to advance
Speaker 1: kind of what we do and what we can do
Speaker 1: for for others and for ourselves. I love that, Dmitri.
Speaker 1: I've been support of that, brother. Yeahvin, I want air
Speaker 1: conditioned headphones because these things make my ear sweat pretty serious,
Speaker 1: Like it's hot here in Nashville, so that I like, Well,
Speaker 1: that's like a that's like a season three, I think so.
Speaker 1: In fact, I had just two little tiny air conditioning
Speaker 1: units installed right here and here that blow a nice.
Speaker 1: Maybe an a flat would be great. Um what what
Speaker 1: for a season two? I don't know. That's a heavy question.
Speaker 1: Uh let's ask Amy Sugarman what our goal is? Taken
Speaker 1: from there, I don't have a year plan. Van's goal
Speaker 1: for season two is to know the topic of one podcast.
Speaker 1: Do you know that? I still don't. I still don't
Speaker 1: ask for a sheet. That's true. You should see the
Speaker 1: sheet that I had. It's got the breakdown all the questions,
Speaker 1: who the listeners, who's gonna call? Who the emails from?
Speaker 1: Like I get a four page PDF and you get
Speaker 1: nothing and show up zoom. He's gonna text men like,
Speaker 1: so what are we talking about? Yeah, one goal you
Speaker 1: have for the show next year? A goal I have
Speaker 1: for the show. Yeah, I think it would be nice
Speaker 1: to have some more musical guests on. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: that would be that would be nice, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, if we can, if we can up the
Speaker 1: musical guest um aspect of the show, I think it
Speaker 1: would be be pretty cool. Talk to guys about touring
Speaker 1: and and uh, maintain relationships while around the road and
Speaker 1: things like that. Maybe a maybe a cool angle for
Speaker 1: for the show too. I got I got two people
Speaker 1: I want to bring on. Uh. Two of my buddies
Speaker 1: are in the band Oh you Oh are great. I
Speaker 1: love those guys, you guys, Mark and Richard. I would
Speaker 1: bring them because they're they're phenomenal human beings. I love
Speaker 1: to agree to what you're talking about. I agree, um, definitely,
Speaker 1: and tap your rolodex. Bro called call Mr Billy, Joel
Speaker 1: and all your buddies there, call them, tell them, calme
Speaker 1: on down, okay. Um. My goal for the show in
Speaker 1: the next year I love I love your meat or
Speaker 1: your mission, Dmitri. I want to take it further. I
Speaker 1: want to be one myself personally. I want to be
Speaker 1: a better host. I want to be more prepared. I
Speaker 1: want to have better questions to driveversation, deeper conversation in
Speaker 1: the midst of a podcast. So I want to have
Speaker 1: more preppart. I put that on myself to prepare more,
Speaker 1: to prepare this space for us to have a deeper
Speaker 1: conversation UM. And then I really love that we have
Speaker 1: since started, we really started as we've got more comfortable
Speaker 1: with this platform to dive into more hot button topics.
Speaker 1: Not we're not scared to go anywhere, you know, like
Speaker 1: the conversation I had last week with Scott Evans about racism.
Speaker 1: That is, that is a real powerful topic to have
Speaker 1: a conversation about, to have a real and honest conversation about.
Speaker 1: And I like that this podcast UM is lessening its fear.
Speaker 1: We always said that from the start we want to
Speaker 1: be real, raw and authentic, and we we had to
Speaker 1: learn how to be a podcast crew. But I want
Speaker 1: us to push further and I want us to to
Speaker 1: penetrate into puncture areas that are uncomfortable for men to
Speaker 1: have conversations. Dmitri's laughing at me. Maybe those words weren't
Speaker 1: the best line up To be honest with you, Brooks,
Speaker 1: there's too much going on not to address and have
Speaker 1: these conversations agree, you know, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: we would we should be tackling. Yeah. Um, and then
Speaker 1: we don't need to turn into a political show and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but like strategically plan out what we
Speaker 1: want to focus on when we want to focus on it,
Speaker 1: and build off of that. Yeah, I think I'd be excellent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love having a mixture. My goal with each show
Speaker 1: is to have a mixture of value in depth conversation
Speaker 1: and also entertainment so that the listen. Because sometimes if
Speaker 1: you just have a heavy discussion and there's no comedy
Speaker 1: or entertainment, it's it's heavy as a listener. I know
Speaker 1: that from listening to other podcasts. So I love that
Speaker 1: we mix entertainment in there as well to keep it lighthearted. Um,
Speaker 1: while the weather really powerful, discussiout the weather we have
Speaker 1: and dreams. I hope we can continue to serve the community.
Speaker 1: Dmitri let it out. What is it, buddy? No, I
Speaker 1: was Cavis heat it. I didn't even hear it. I said,
Speaker 1: what about the weather. You don't want to do weather
Speaker 1: to finishing weather man. It's beautiful outside. The sun is
Speaker 1: about to set. The lake is glass. I need to
Speaker 1: get out there and throw I need to go do it, man,
Speaker 1: do it. We're jealous, so what do you throw it?
Speaker 1: Throwing a just a jerk bait? Just at that? Is it?
Speaker 1: This episode? Gents? Um if a Father's Day episode? Oh
Speaker 1: hold on, Rick and Dmitri, Oh did you guys get
Speaker 1: my hell? Yeah? Yeah, oh I guess so I got
Speaker 1: the nuts. That's I got the opener and says Rink. I, dude,
Speaker 1: I pride that thing open. I got it out like
Speaker 1: I think my daughter. I had her tape it. I'll
Speaker 1: send you the tap. But I had a tape because
Speaker 1: it was like you can't get and it was like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, pops open and it was like
Speaker 1: it was cool. Dude, Thank you appreciate that's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Us um so gave thanks for no present. Brooks, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta qualifier. While he's got a dog, I have
Speaker 1: a dog and consider myself a dog father. So he's yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a dog dad on Nationale Dog day Break and
Speaker 1: I'll send you guys kiss. Thanks. I appreciate it. I
Speaker 1: hope I hope it's with my name embossed or engraved
Speaker 1: in it like yours. Worth. My name was spelled wrong.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I wasn't just I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I was so like Gavin, Gavin had you Dmitri? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so what people don't know. So it was a man
Speaker 1: crate and inside the crate were like beer glasses with
Speaker 1: our names etched in it, and like beer nuts and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and like an opener with our name.
Speaker 1: It was. It was very cool. You get a crowbar
Speaker 1: and to open the crate with right, so it's like
Speaker 1: a whole So you spend send this man create and
Speaker 1: it's this whole experience for the dute. He gets this create,
Speaker 1: he gets a crowbar, he gets a try and open
Speaker 1: busted open, and the inside it's a nice gift um
Speaker 1: and we've got them personalized for the dudes on it
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So yeah, thanks for your help with
Speaker 1: gaut with that gap. You're amazing. Thanks for that. I
Speaker 1: guess that's why I didn't get a check. We spent
Speaker 1: it on their presence. It's about probably about the same
Speaker 1: and it's because of that gift is that's part of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I was dropped for this podcast. So
Speaker 1: thank you tipping them back as we've been drinking out
Speaker 1: of the cup because I wasn't sure if I was
Speaker 1: supposed to open it yet, so I don't want to
Speaker 1: come in here with the last like you already opened it. Um, dudes,
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you on but just
Speaker 1: on on from a personal note, UM, thank you for
Speaker 1: your time, thank you for your energy, thank you for
Speaker 1: your commitment to this mission, for being part of this.
Speaker 1: I love team sports. I love having um different personalities,
Speaker 1: perspective as energies around and I have thoroughly enjoyed every
Speaker 1: single moment with you guys, and I just want to
Speaker 1: say thank you for for being part of this being
Speaker 1: hell yeah man, thank you bro, thank you yeah and
Speaker 1: you know, and thank you all. Thank you for the
Speaker 1: friendship too, fellas. This has been a lot of And
Speaker 1: I also want to thank our listeners. I want to
Speaker 1: thank I want to give our let's give a round
Speaker 1: on a clause to our let's look um, thank you
Speaker 1: for the messages, thank you for listening. It's it's because
Speaker 1: of you guys that were able to have this show, um.
Speaker 1: And we always try and which we set it from
Speaker 1: the start, we always try and be a vessel of
Speaker 1: service to you guys listening at home. So we love
Speaker 1: when you engage with us on Instagram at how many
Speaker 1: think podcast and when you send us each messages. I
Speaker 1: know we have the Ryan fan Club as well. That's
Speaker 1: kind of that's taken off now it's doubled in size
Speaker 1: to two, so it's doing well here. I thought that
Speaker 1: that's a separate but also also I appreciate my m
Speaker 1: my d m s are phil when people asking me
Speaker 1: to hook him up with Gavin and with Brooks so
Speaker 1: and I'm glad I can be in vessel for you
Speaker 1: guys to I'm not. I'm happy to help. True story.
Speaker 1: You sent that out and you said you got a
Speaker 1: message from a fan somebody saying, hey, can you introduce
Speaker 1: me to Gavin? And I commented on I'm like, I
Speaker 1: get those freaking messages all the time, people say hey
Speaker 1: can you hey, have you understand? But I get him
Speaker 1: for you too, Oh you have he's talking to you,
Speaker 1: Rick what he's probably got him. He just doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to check. Um. I keep getting this little red
Speaker 1: thing that has like numbers on it. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what the hell that is. And you're direct mean,
Speaker 1: you're a little envelope thing. It'll say like you know,
Speaker 1: one request to requests, and they're all requests for Gavinet
Speaker 1: Brooks for the mail every day. I love you, buddy,
Speaker 1: your old school you're you're a classic cat Rick. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that about you. Um, dudes, that's it, that's it,
Speaker 1: that's well. Thank you. Listen you guys. We made it
Speaker 1: a year. We didn't know if we're gonna make it
Speaker 1: a freaking show. UM. So far we've had great editors
Speaker 1: that have allowed us to save our careers have and
Speaker 1: to all our listeners, everybody, we thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Take care of one another, love one another, and we'll
Speaker 1: see you back here for another year of how many
Speaker 1: think podcast last here? I love you, Hey, I'm good,
Speaker 1: get it. Tell the jerk beat up