WEBVTT - A Year in the Life 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:04.360 This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:09.000 to Grab and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:13.080 episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:18.239 and we have the whole team with us today, Mr 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:24.960 Gavin Degage Ride and co host What's up? Get all 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.240 right out there? I t you up and that's all 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.880 you got. That's all I got, Bro. I know you 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:32.440 had more people to introduce, so I didn't want to 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.360 go off on a tangent. Here's my tangent. We're buddy. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:42.199 We got got Dmitri. Dmitri, what's up? Brother? Who? I 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.400 thought we're all kind of doing that. That's going on? 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.360 What's up? I'm good, Good to see you guys. You 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.000 look relaxed, but have everyone on here. You look relaxed. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:01:02.400 The weirdest thing is that I'm not at all not 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.360 looking relaxed, but looking tough and in very intense. We 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:11.320 got Ryan, Ryan, what's up? Bro? Oh? Yeah? Whoa brooks 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.080 so forever you guys? Wait right, wait, Ryan, you're looking 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.880 like uh, you're looking like uh what's his name? Uh? 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:28.920 In a breakfast club doing this thing? Yeah thing? Yes? 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.560 Then can somebody take a screenshot of this because we 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.480 need to show this to our how many Thike listeners? 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.039 Ryan looks like he's got on a wrestling outfit. I 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.360 am in the middle of in about fifteen minutes, I 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.200 need to go put the children down for for bedtime, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.840 so I'm in my bedtime attire right now. I sweat 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.120 because it's very stressful. I'm wearing a tank top. Thank you, 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:57.480 my God, look like you're gonna suplex the children. One 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:03.360 to require dude. I want to say congrats to all 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.320 of you because you know what it is. Today, it's 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.840 our one year anniversary of the How Men Think Pot. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.600 We did it. We made it to a year considering 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.160 the very first line of this podcast was Gavin saying, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.320 we're just trying not to say stuff to wreck our 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:27.919 own careers. True, we made it. I don't know about you, guys, 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:32.160 but I'm still waiting for a check. It's been a year. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:38.200 It's true. We really started this podcast to get Gavin 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.480 and Grotto, but so all all of our checks have 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.519 kind of just been going Gavin's way. Yeah, right, once 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.280 and yet and yet where is he? He's in an 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.280 empty room with a guitar. That's right. You paid for 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:53.880 all this decorating right here. See decorating. So we're really 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:59.760 making money then? Oh yeah. Um, so for this UM, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.120 it's been quite a year. I'll say that it's been 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.640 absolutely unreal to get to know you guys and and 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:09.200 to have powerful conversations with men in different stages, different backgrounds, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:14.240 different perspectives of life. UM and Easton, our incredible engineer 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.960 is going to ask us some questions today about the 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.280 last year, about this journey of the how Man podcast. 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:25.680 Eastern you want to take it away, brother, Yes, I do. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.799 Let me pull up those questions one sec. I'm sorry 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.600 that prepared. Maybe when the checks come right and go 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.880 and buy the rest of his sleeves, maybe you could 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.840 buy a sense of humor. I don't know. Dmitri and 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:47.360 I are laugh Hey Rick, the jerk store call that 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.000 ran out of you and I would I were just 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:54.240 steal in Seinfeld lines. These guys, we're one year in 0:03:54.320 --> 0:04:00.360 and we're stealing lines from Steinfeld. Come on celebratory night, Rick, Actually, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.800 hold on one sec. You know what I think the line. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.480 Let's here's a question to you guys. What do you 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.520 think the line of the year was? I have mine 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.480 the funniest moment of the year. Oh, I know what 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.880 yours is. It's the one that Ryan said when he 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.880 goes mind. Oh no, No, that was a good one. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.560 That was a good one. The the hardest I laughed, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.440 I think all the year was Dmitri when you said, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:32.400 what's Judy sex? It was with Leela Debil We did. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:37.680 I think it was like episode four, Yeah, and and 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.680 you just were I just looked at you and you 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.359 said it right at the perfect moment. And because anybody 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.520 heard it, what did she say? She said duty sex, 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.200 meaning like you have to do it. Yeah, but we 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.560 all heard Judy sex. And she's like, you know how 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.040 you have Judy sex? And we're all like the room 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.159 just got quiet, and I was like, I'm assuming everyone 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.440 else hearned out. I don't know. Yeah, grant that I'm 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.200 not like sexual, no at all, but I've never heard 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.719 of Judy sex. And I was for sure that wasn't 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:10.719 in your Comma Sutra instructional. Does anybody else have off? 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:12.640 This is just off the cuff? Does anybody else have 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.360 a line? The funniest line of the year, the funniest 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.600 thing somebody said the entire year. God, no, I don't 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.160 I don't remember the year. I mean, I think if 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.559 you remember, I gotta go to Gavin. And the problem, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.479 the reason that I don't remember is because it was 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.799 one of those just that he yells out. He's yelled 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.360 out things like where's my check, He's yelled out things 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.800 like I need a steak. So he's yelled out these 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.080 random you know, it's gonna come to me. He didn't 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.919 yell out one at one point somebody else go, but 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.560 it's gonna come to me. He yelled at something so random, 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.800 and I was like, it took me a minute to 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.359 realize what the hell he was talking about. This is 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.920 This is the one that I thought was Gavin's best 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.680 one of remembering how he does all the hypotheticals. If 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.600 you listen to How Many Think podcasts, you'll find a 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.080 Gavin de Graw hypothetical. And the best one of all 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.320 time was talking about uni brow a woman like if 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.440 a woman shaving her eyebrows, maybe she might need a 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.799 uni brow in case she gets stuck in cold weather 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:12.839 outside of the Mall America Wall of America in Minneaports. Yeah, 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.839 it was that her car broke down and she needed 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.240 the warmth. That was the day that the listeners realized 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.640 that none of this was scripted, because there's no in 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.880 hell anyone would script that. It's just a crazy mind 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.680 to Gavin to grow. Mean, what if she needed a 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:32.960 uni brow to keep warm? Yeah, okay, that's clear to 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.800 nip the small sweater out of and wear it does? 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.960 Does anybody else have a line or should we go 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:43.120 to Easton? No? I was trying to think of something funny, 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.640 you said. Over the course of the year, Brooks and 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.000 I have yet to come up with anything, so we 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:52.640 should probably all right, he said, you're up, Wow, after 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.719 that devastating burn out. Here's our first question. What have 0:06:55.800 --> 0:07:02.839 you learned about yourself in the last year? Um, I'm 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:11.040 getting fatter. I went from a thirty three to thirty six? 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.160 Does that? Does that work? Podcast? Life does not sit 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:20.240 well with you? Well, fun I've learned that I like 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:28.040 Rick's second shin better than his third. Oh man, this 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.560 is not This is not the way this show was 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.040 meant to go. You should go back to the Seinfeld quotes. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.840 These guys gonna start you think, I mean tears by 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.160 the time this is over. Serious Okay, two to three 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.320 sentences each guy? What have you learned the most about 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.880 you or something unique that you've learned about yourself through 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.640 this journey the last year, Rick, you're up, I'll go, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.360 uh podcast journey. You know, to be honest, At the 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.440 very beginning, I was talking to Amy when we were 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.600 just you know, coming up with a lot of this stuff, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.240 and I was super hesitant on doing it. Um. I 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.240 never thought that I was going to be a somebody 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.720 to talk and be on the radio or a podcast 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.680 or any of that nature. And UM, I am certainly 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.680 glad that I did it. Um. It was sort of 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.600 a fear of mine. I wouldn't consider this public speaking, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.880 but I think when you hear yourself on a microphone, UM, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:19.880 or you listen to an episode, I always kind of cramped, like, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.840 oh that was me. But I've definitely gotten over that fear, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:29.120 and that was something this podcast helped me leap over. UM. 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:33.800 And so now when I'm talking to work colleagues or 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.120 I'm on a running a meeting or anything of that nature, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.440 I think this has actually really helped me. UM. And 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.480 I'm talking to you guys, which is super comfortable and fun, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.720 but we're also talking to our audience, right. So UM, 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.880 that was something that I definitely learned and enjoyed through 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.680 this journey with you guys. So it's been fabulous and um, 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.880 I always think about it and I'm always laughing at 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:02.439 the end of these awesome I do what about your brother? Uh? 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.080 You know, well, I'm not gonna I don't know if 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.400 the question was meant to be what we've learned most 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.360 about ourselves through the podcast or just in general over 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:17.240 the last year, I would say, Um, for me, I 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:22.560 and this isn't part based on the the amount of 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:27.240 feedback I've gotten from you guys and from listeners, which 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.800 basically my takeaway is that I need to be make 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.000 concerted efforts in the next year to be more go 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:38.199 with the flow. I think I'm very schedule oriented, regimented. 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:42.480 I think structure gives me sanity and peace of mind. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.679 But I need to find a happy medium as best 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.360 I can to have to be able to just be 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.280 flexible and not be so regimented with schedule. And I'm 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.240 going to make strides to do exactly that. That's powerful awareness, dude. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.280 I can resonate with that because I was the same way. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:03.200 I was very when my schedule got interrupted. It just 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.960 derailed my whole like thing like, So that's powerful awareness. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.959 That's I'm I'm happy for you, but that's that's incredible. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.440 I will tell you my my two children are waiting 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.480 for me to put them down right now, which is later. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.760 It will be later than normal. And the amount of 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:23.440 anxiety I have is tremendous. So how long will it take? You? 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:24.600 Do you want to go? Do it now? And we'll 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.640 ask the other guys this question. No, keep going, keep going, Dmitri, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.400 that's the big step right there, he said, keep going. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.520 He's gonna roll with it. Uh. I gotta tell you 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.920 what I've realized over this year doing the podcast is, Um, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.720 I'm not as open as I originally thought. It was like, 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.880 I know, I got a lot of feeling I don't 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.559 share a lot of feelings. I don't share a lot 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.240 of memories. I don't share a lot of things that 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.400 kind of affected my life. And um, and I think 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.120 I've I've grown work accustomed to that. Number one, I 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.920 think we have such a a good We get along 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.920 so well, the five of us, and I think as 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.000 we were talking it it was like the microphone wasn't 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.600 there and we were just really having a conversation and 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.000 that kind of helped me. And then seeing some of 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.000 the stuff that people would post in this that you know, 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.760 I realized that it's not just about me saying maybe 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.439 what I'm feeling or things that in my life that 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.800 have affected me. Like, there's people going through things, and 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.760 there's people that maybe don't talk either. Maybe here's something 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.600 and it helps them. So, you know, I realized that 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.040 while I was keeping a lot of things close to 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:33.719 the best, whether part consciously in part subconsciously, I think 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.080 I realized that it was wasn't It's not necessarily the 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:41.199 best thing for me or you know, maybe for other people. Yeah, wow, 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.319 that's awesome, bro, Gavin, you want to write a song 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:49.200 about that? Your turn? You're out a way to rhyme 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.720 all that. Uh what have I learned? I don't know, man, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.800 I don't know if I've learned anything other than I 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.520 need to have more canned food here. Thank god, that's 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.920 what I learned earned. Uh, you know, the COVID thing 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.600 taught me a whole lot about just because I don't 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.560 cook at the house doesn't mean I shouldn't have some 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.680 stuff here in case I had to. Uh. So there's 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.079 always that. The other one is, you know, a g 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:17.800 whiz guys, so nice to have friends and uh nice 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.360 to be able to talk to people about just a 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.440 whole bunch of random that otherwise I'd just be, you know, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.920 having this one conversation basically with with just very very 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.800 probably one or two other guys that I that I know. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.160 But it's nice. Uh, it's nice to not get paid 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.600 for this time with you and uh to Uh that's 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.240 probably my favorite part. No man, I I mean I 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.200 I think I've learned. I've learned it several little things. Uh, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.760 one of which is, uh, I'm really happy to be single. 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.800 You guys can film that for me every day and 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.960 uh and uh no, and because I think it's important 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.040 for all you all to have a single friend at 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.319 all times. And I like being that guy because I 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:02.800 can get off the phone one of you and be like, oh, 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.640 you know what such and such, just it about what's 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.000 going on. Oh no way, seriously, I think that get 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.600 to do that is he's in the conversation with himself 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.200 over there like I'm sorry, I forgot you guys are 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.559 on my zoom. Um yeah, give us one one thing 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.280 the podcasts like really made you aware of her? How 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.120 did like two to three sentences real quick? Because we 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.200 bring on the next question. To be honest with you, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.040 I think probably the best thing that's happened on the 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:32.600 podcast is that I could have conversations with professionals and 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:37.800 topics on kind of touchy subjects of things without ever 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.360 having to say that I went to a shrink. Yeah, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.360 and that's cool. Yeah, I get you. UM. For me, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:51.000 it's been actually because I I was as you were saying, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.559 I resonated with what you were saying. Dmitri on. As 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.960 a guy, I just stuffed bottled. Every emotion was very 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:03.280 just internalized everything. UM. Didn't outwardly express any emotion anything 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.319 like that, and so I was no good at emotional intelligence. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.520 I had no emotional intelligence and capacity to express emotion. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:11.720 And it was one of the reasons why I wanted 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.160 to do this podcast was to step into a space 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.560 where I had to learn to and and train the 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:23.120 muscle and practice UM expressing myself more and opening up more. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:28.840 And I have felt amazingly expressed and relaxed through this 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.680 journey through sharing this stuff on the podcast, through this 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.360 space that we all five create hold a safe space 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.720 for each other to share what they are going through, 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.000 to share their hearts. Uh. And I've never in my 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:47.040 life felt more emotionally expressed, and it's been absolutely wonderful 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:59.920 for me. Easter. Next question, Okay, next question, what surprise 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:08.080 you most about one of the other guys? Mm hmm anybody? 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:14.680 Mm hmm. I'll start, uh So, I'll give you two 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.840 quick things, the first of which would be I'll touch 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:24.120 on Brooks. Uh So, all the guys that played hockey, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.040 and you know that I played soccer in college. All 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:31.320 the hockey players a bunch of Canadian guys. Uh. I 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.600 thought I had hockey guys figured out because they were 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:40.600 just complete bros. Brooks. I thought he was gonna be 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:46.960 just a stereotypical hockey guy, uh which means not very deep, 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.920 just a bro. But he's a very deep human being. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.320 And at first I question if that was authentic admittedly, 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.080 or kind of saying what he thought he had to say. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.440 But having gotten to know him of the course of 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.960 a year, we have a great rapport. We we bust 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.760 each other's balls. Some people think it's offensive, and I'm 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.480 mean too, Brooks. Uh Brooks has a thick skin and 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.960 it's part of our stick. But I would say that 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:18.200 he's he's a very genuine, real human being with deep 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.680 values and I respect that about him that I question 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.440 at the beginning. I believe he's completely authentic and I've 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.680 learned that over the course of the last year. And 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.680 the second thing I will say is that I learned 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:35.600 that Gavin we had an amazing time together, uh, probably 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.080 ten months ago at this point in London. We had 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.120 beers over lunch. He was a true gentleman. He walked 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.720 me about ten miles through the park back to my hotel. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:49.040 Was very very gentlemanlike of him. Uh, and then we 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.400 said goodbye. But we had an amazing conversation over beers 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:57.000 and like really bonded and I value the friendship I 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.840 have with both of you, and slightly with Dmitri and Rick. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.320 That was awesome, brother, Thank you so much. That was 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.719 a great day right in London. That was Um, d 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.639 meet your ear turner. What's something that surprised you about 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.439 that you've learned out about one of the guys. Well, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:18.359 it's uh, it's kind of weird to follow that because mine, 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.600 actually I think has to be Gavin as well. Um, 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.720 I think you just have a brooks. You and I 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.880 had met once, we had lunch and stuff before things 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.320 got started, so I kind of had an idea. Um. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.000 But you know, I met Gavin ten minutes before the 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.800 first episode. I think we all did. And it was 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.879 like I didn't know what to think. You know, you 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.320 think rock stars they got a certain thing, they're a 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.399 certain way that Honestly, if I didn't know that he was, 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.040 you know, did what he did. He had his fan 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.760 base and and and stuff like that, I wouldn't I 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.840 wouldn't have guessed. He's such a normal guy. And it's 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.760 funny Ryan mentioned London, but mine was up in Tahoe. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.680 Man like Gavin came up. He brought in his zong 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.240 but eat and uh, we just got to talk in 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:03.760 and we're like, all right, we're bored. We at some 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.760 time to kill. Rick was training to swim across the lake, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.360 and so we went for a ride around the lake 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.159 and you know, we went and got coffee and stuff. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.080 And then later that night with Rick and stuff where 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.159 we were up late having some drinks and he started 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.640 talking about you know, just just so all day long. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.720 It was a fantastic just like getting to know you. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.480 And he was such a normal guy, and he was 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.560 such a deep guy and I know, you think, well, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.760 he writes great songs, so he's deep, he's got but 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.360 it was interesting to be able to talk to him 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.320 like that. And then that night, and I remember Rick 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.359 and I talked about it that night, I see you 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:39.760 right that night he started talking about meeting Billy Joel, 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.720 who happens to be one of my favorite musicians. Yeah, 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.760 and I was like, and and he he told some 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.879 amazing stories, and I thought, so long story short. I 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.120 thought he was gonna be your typical guy. We're gonna 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.320 get what we get from him in this net. But man, 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.600 when when he's you know, even when he's off the clock, 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.359 he's a pretty good dude. Ye Man, thank you bro too, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:06.200 man Rick. Yeah, both both guys are hard to follow. 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:11.639 Good god. Um, I think my takeaway from this podcast 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.280 so far is with you guys, is you know, going 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.960 into it, I didn't know any of you right, so um, 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.359 you know, and we're all sort of within the same 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:25.000 age group time frame, give or take five to eight years. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.640 But getting to know you every time i'd fly down there, 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.359 getting to know you every time we talked or we 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.959 did a zoom call, um, whether we were down at 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.600 the steakhouse having a quick beer after recording, and I 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.920 had to go to the airport or whatever I think 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.720 and correct me if I'm wrong. But the whole point 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.399 of this podcast is for men to open up and 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:50.320 to share their experiences and their feelings and how they interact. Um. 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.760 And to me, that was, you know, coming in and 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.000 actually getting to know each one of you guys, and 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.679 to be able to now pick up the phone or 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.160 get a text from Dmitri and Ryan or Brooks or whoever. 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.080 You know, it's it's like, hey, are you guys, You're okay? 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.040 How's life like? Not even having to do with the podcast. Um, 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.119 it's just like, hey, I started a new job, Like 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.240 how's the job going, how you know, how you doing, 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.280 How's how the kids? Or you know, it's like to 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.199 have that ability with the five five of you, with 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.679 five of us, four of you. UM, that's my takeaway, 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.080 and it's it's really nice to have. It's you know, 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.480 so I hope it's reciprocal obviously. UM, but that that 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:38.399 I extremely appreciate. Amazing buddy, Thanks for yeah. Next question, 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:46.719 please come on, man, I'm kidding, no, all these guys 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:52.080 now the Uh, Honestly, I think I think it everything 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.880 that everyone said so far, I can I can literally say, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.000 did on on all of it. I think everybody is 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.360 uh has been able to open up to each other, 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:05.120 not just on here, but um but off the mic, 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.560 you know what I mean, on the phone or just 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.679 you know, normal shooting type type talk. You know that 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.919 that uh you know, regular friends would have, which is 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:16.520 a nice thing to be able to have. I think, 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.919 you know, once you once you give people the benefit 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.159 of the doubt to give them a minute to to 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.560 show themselves to you, and they reveal themselves to you, 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.760 you get to pick up who who who they are. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.000 And every one of these guys as has a lot 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.679 to offer and and I think that the beauty of 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.800 each of them and all you guys is that you 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.439 you don't you don't go around telling everybody, uh you know, 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.600 how well you do and how good you are at 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.879 what you do, um and and you don't have to 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.280 you know. In fact, I think you know, in some 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:52.280 cultures it's it's insulting to even talk about your your 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.560 career much you or even ask anybody, hey, what do 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:55.920 you do? You know what I mean? And so it's 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.840 with us, I think the way we gell in general, 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:00.960 it's not necessarily a base on what we do, what 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.639 our profession is it's we get along in a in 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.280 a character sinse and and every one of you guys 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:12.520 have had some special time with uh learning learning you 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:17.840 not necessarily learning your jobs or or or uh you know, 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.080 your your profession or how you make an income, but 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:24.840 learning learning your personality types. And you know, I see 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.400 a handful of winners all being able to hang out 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.600 with each other and not be competitive with each other. 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.359 And I think it's a beautiful thing. And I appreciate 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:36.600 being in the club here. Awesome buddy, Thanks for sharing, dude. 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:41.760 Real mine would be uh. I'll start with Ryan, Dmitri 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.160 and Rick. The fact that all three of you guys 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:52.280 are fathers, and I have the utmost admiration for fathers 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:57.000 and for you three, um, because of the conversations we've had, 0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:01.200 because of what you have shared with me about how 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:05.080 much joy and love being a father brings to your 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:10.520 heart and and how it's like how when you speak 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.600 about your kids, you guys absolutely light up, you know, 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.560 and you also share that it's tough. You also share 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.240 that yeah, sometimes it's very tough as well, it's the 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:22.280 toughest job you'll ever have to do. Or sometimes you're 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.040 exhausted or this or that, but at the end of 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.080 the day, you always choose them, and you always speak 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:31.119 about your kids with love, and um, it's an area, 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.200