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Speaker 1: From the RAMS Studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is February seventh, twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: about eleven fifteen am Pacific time. I'm Miles Simmons. I've

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Speaker 1: got to Marco far to my right. Our producer Matt

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Speaker 1: is behind the camera as well. It is good to

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Speaker 1: be back in the studio tomorrow. Are we TV or

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Speaker 1: radio right now? Both? Can we just do radio? I

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Speaker 1: want to lean. I want to lean the people. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be on TV. Here's the thing. People

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Speaker 1: like watching this. Yeah, and I oh, I'm necessarily sure.

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Speaker 1: Why Well it's funny. I mean, like it's my face.

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Speaker 1: I don't wouldn't want to watch before he said it's

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Speaker 1: eleven to fifteen. You know why it's eleven fifteen because

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Speaker 1: we're just fiddling with the chairs. So are we on

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Speaker 1: TV or radio? My goodness? If this is radio, let's

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Speaker 1: just get started. Well it's not just radio. People like

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Speaker 1: watching the podcast on the RAMS dot com or on

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Speaker 1: the RAMS vocal app. I'm going to pretend like I'm

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Speaker 1: on radio, right all right? Okay, go ahead? Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: makes it more interesting. You can't face it's been a

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Speaker 1: long time. It has been how is the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the off season, ben Ah, Well, Um, the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: was fantastic. It was stunning. Yeah, I had a great

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Speaker 1: time stunning. I had a great time watching it. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's good to see former ram Nick Foles play like

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Speaker 1: an ice cold assassin. Yeah. The the experience wasn't too

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Speaker 1: big for him. Um. And then he outduled, well, almost

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Speaker 1: out dual Tom Brady. He beat the Patriots. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles won the Super Bowl, but you can't really say

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Speaker 1: that he outduled Tom Brady. No, but the the Eagles

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Speaker 1: defense made the play that they had to take in

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Speaker 1: order to win that game. Yeah. I'm still really stunned

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Speaker 1: that with in that situation, right, thank gave Brady I

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Speaker 1: think two twenty left, Yeah, one time out plus a

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Speaker 1: two minute warning. I said to myself, it's over right,

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Speaker 1: you've seen this. Yeah, Like in my mind, I was thinking, Wow,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be how Tom Brady and Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick in theory might write off into the sun one

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Speaker 1: last time. I was thinking that one last two minute

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Speaker 1: drive in the Super Bowl. Sports writers, see, you're a writer,

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Speaker 1: what could you come up with for that scenario? I

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Speaker 1: bet the last thing on your mind with strip sack. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that was the last thing on my mind. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was watching it at a Boddy's house and like

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Speaker 1: I stood up and I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, well you made him human. Um. Look,

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Speaker 1: all quarterbacks are susceptible to one thing, pressure When when

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Speaker 1: the pass rush gets to them before they're ready, there's

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Speaker 1: almost nothing they can do, including zom Brady. So it

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Speaker 1: was a hell of a play by the Eagles to

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Speaker 1: get the ball out. But offensively speaking, I mean, that

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Speaker 1: was about as aggressive a game plan from both sides

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Speaker 1: as you're going to see in a Super Bowl. Um.

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Speaker 1: And that's a nice way of saying there was no

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Speaker 1: defense being played at all. But it's like, it's not

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Speaker 1: to say that it's weird because you feel like there

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Speaker 1: was no defense because like that was the most yards

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Speaker 1: of any regular or postseason game in NFL history, which

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Speaker 1: is you gave up passing and won. Yes, yeah, when

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Speaker 1: when would you ever see that again? I never nobody

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Speaker 1: has ever had that kind of stat line and lost

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Speaker 1: a game before. Tom Brady just did on Sunday. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like, I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: the Patriots lost that game, if that makes sense. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like the Eagles really

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Speaker 1: won that game. Yeah, and that the Eagles are definitively

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Speaker 1: the best team in football for the twenty seventeen season.

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Speaker 1: I was a mini argument on the way out of

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Speaker 1: the casino when I was watching the game. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it came down to the last play again, fantastic

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Speaker 1: And I think, I said, what do you mean last play?

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Speaker 1: I said, well, the last play Brady threw it into

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Speaker 1: the end zone or as close as he could get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it bounced off Gronk's head. Yes, that came down to

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Speaker 1: the last play, and that's the way Super Bowls should

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Speaker 1: be played. Of course, this is an Eagle fan. Oh

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Speaker 1: we had him, We dominated him. That was just a

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Speaker 1: nothing play. The percentages on that play, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: The last play. The ball was in the end zone

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Speaker 1: and yeah, look at the score, and you've got Gronkowski. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a matchup problem for everybody, right that if you're going

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad they swallowed the whistles on that play too.

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Speaker 1: That's let them wrestle it out as long as it's

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Speaker 1: nothing egregious like a face mask. I'm yanking the face

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Speaker 1: that last play. I want that shot just for my

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Speaker 1: I mean, Gronk surrounded by like five Eagles with the

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Speaker 1: with all those eyes pointed towards one football. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the stuff I love about ball right there. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a really really great game, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it was something It's the kind of game that you're

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Speaker 1: really going to remember because, yeah, that was perhaps the

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Speaker 1: one of the best Super Bowls ever. Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is funny, man apropos whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 1: The same play that Brady miss is the one that

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Speaker 1: Nick full scores on. Yes, yeah, and you never see

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Speaker 1: the Patriots make mistakes like that, you really don't, I

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Speaker 1: mean crucial situations. It was run properly executed, It executed

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Speaker 1: almost perfectly. Brady just couldn't grab it and run with it,

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Speaker 1: and then Foles hits it for a touchdown. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tony Dungee right now, but maybe he's on something about

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles. I'm just saying, Well, as a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, my husband cannot throw and catch the ball

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Speaker 1: at the same time. So see right, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that quote. Yeah. Wow, it lives forever.

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Speaker 1: You can't care it of anything, especially in the age.

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Speaker 1: Is that going to be on YouTube now as a meme?

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Speaker 1: I hope so wow, But means aren't usually on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Oh whatever, stop Twitter and he goes again, he goes,

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Speaker 1: he goes, young guy on me anyway? You know what

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Speaker 1: I meant. You were just being a little old there.

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Speaker 1: I was not being old anyway. So NFL Honors was

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Speaker 1: also the YEA or the Super Bowl, and Matt and

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Speaker 1: I were there. We were helping cover that. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was really cool and cold as well. It was minus

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Speaker 1: on Friday. But it was really good to see the

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Speaker 1: Rams do something that no other team has ever accomplished before,

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Speaker 1: and that is when Ap Coach of the Year and

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Speaker 1: I mean that just makes the whole end of the

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Speaker 1: because Sean McVay even said that, you know, like you're

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Speaker 1: sweet because and he goes, you can't help but think

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Speaker 1: about the way the season ended in that game versus Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and he's talking about, you know, you think about things

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Speaker 1: you could have done better and all of that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. That's like when they used to talk about

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Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks and they used to say, the most prolific

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Speaker 1: regular season quarterback of all time Peyton Manning. That's true.

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Speaker 1: It kind of gets close ended, right, Yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time regular season just this part

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Speaker 1: I mean there's something to build on there. Definitely going

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Speaker 1: into this year is better than going into a season ago, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with everything that went on there, So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: So you know, the hardware is always great, but like

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Speaker 1: you said, when you have things like that that happened

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Speaker 1: that's never happened, and you see when you exited the playoffs, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it just kind of stays a little bit. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's true. And not only was it the

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Speaker 1: first time that all three awards went to the same team,

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Speaker 1: but it was only the second time that Offensive Player

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Speaker 1: from the same team. I think the last time that happened.

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three where they finishing the playoffs, they well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know off the top of that's funny. We

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Speaker 1: should look that up. Three Ravens do with a defensive

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Speaker 1: two thousand while I'm looking this up, when when was

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Speaker 1: the last time the same team had offensive Rookie of

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Speaker 1: I thought it was Donald and Donald was a year before.

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Speaker 1: Oh my bad. Okay, yeah, that was consecutive years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but that's true. I don't remember that one. Somebody. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Saints had Alvin Kamara and also Marshawn Lattimore, so

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Speaker 1: talk about things to build on. They've also got something

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Speaker 1: So there's no way that Drew Brees is going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: There's no way Josh McDaniel's not going to be the

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Speaker 1: coach of the Colts. Oh, I'm just saying, come on now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that Malcolm Butler doesn't play a snap on

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Speaker 1: defense in the Super Bowl. Look, anything can happen in

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Speaker 1: this league. You're right, But I think those are very

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Speaker 1: very different situations. Got something that the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: three Baltimore Ravens lost in the wildcard round to the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Really really yeah? Wow, Okay, I would not

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Speaker 1: have guessed that. Wow. Can you tell me one more thing?

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Speaker 1: Who was at quarterback for the Ravens in three? Well,

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Speaker 1: they lost to the Steve mcner led right, I got

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Speaker 1: that part. Yeah, that must have been Kyle Bowler. That

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Speaker 1: was Trent Dilphin. Still, so you had so you had

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Speaker 1: the offensive player of the year and the defensive player

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Speaker 1: of the year and Kyle Bowler Kyle Bowler. Well, and

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Speaker 1: tell you, man, that's so interesting to me, Like, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of parallels between apparently, between the two

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Speaker 1: It's football, man, it happens, right, It's crazy, that's where

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Speaker 1: it goes. Anyway, I don't know how we got that.

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Speaker 1: Todd Heat probably would have been the leading receiver on

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Speaker 1: I'm saying he made a wrong turn so that he

424
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Speaker 1: went to a different highway than we were supposed a

425
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Speaker 1: different highway I thought one way. So basically he like

426
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Speaker 1: took us three miles out of the way, but it's snowing,

427
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Speaker 1: and so then he gets off the highway, has to

428
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Speaker 1: go back up and go back north to where we

429
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Speaker 1: need to be. And it just yeah, it was not

430
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Speaker 1: that cost you money, no, because I gave him one

431
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Speaker 1: star and then I reported the trip and then they

432
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Speaker 1: gave me a refund. Oh good, okay, that's going on,

433
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: and we celebrated by stuffing our face at Cheesecake Factor.

434
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Speaker 1: Good for you, all right, Yeah, angel her Aposta was

435
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: Shrepo is actually quite good. See just what the doctor

436
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Speaker 1: order look for positive and negative like that. Yes, yes, exactly,

437
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 1: Tyler Dirton. You'll find out what that is. And I

438
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Speaker 1: know what that is. It's cloud. Okay, good, I like, Oh,

439
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We can't say first rule of that's if

440
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: you're in Fight Club. We're talking about the movie Fight Club. Anyway,

441
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, look at me. I'm a member anyway. The

442
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: other thing I kind of want to talk about that

443
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: came out of Minnesota is Hall of Fame. And so

444
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 1: this is why I called you last week, because we

445
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: were talking about Isaac Bruce and possibly going into the

446
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And obviously that's your teammate. And I

447
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: can tell from your face that you are disappointed that

448
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't this year for Bruce. Well, I guess trash

449
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: talking has its benefits. Being a complete and total toothache

450
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: and just a problem to your own team has its benefits.

451
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 1: Terrell owens Is, I'm not just him all, I'm one

452
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: of the best wide receivers off so Randy Moss too.

453
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Speaker 1: You know what I feel bad Isaac? Then I helped um.

454
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: I should have told him to speak up, be more flamboyant,

455
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: throw a ball at a coach, you know, do something

456
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: stupid like the other receivers. Do you know, instead of

457
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: just focusing on winning, I mean, I'm just focusing on

458
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: doing your job better than everyone else, winning games and

459
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. I guess I was wrong. He

460
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: was wrong. We're doing it wrong. I guess you have

461
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: to be loud, flamboyant, and a jerk to get in

462
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Speaker 1: first Okay, maybe you do. I don't know, but I

463
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: mean the Brandy Moss is a first ballot guy. Troll

464
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: Owens is not a first ballot guy, and that was

465
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Speaker 1: a big storyline. Okay, I'm not getting in the first ballot,

466
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Speaker 1: second ballot, third ballot. I'm just talking about the guys

467
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Speaker 1: who are up there. There's no way you can say

468
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Speaker 1: that these guys are better than that guy. You just can't.

469
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be clear. I'm not saying that

470
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Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce is not deserving to be in the Hall

471
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Speaker 1: of Fame. I believe that he should be in the

472
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Clearly, he had a Hall of Fame career,

473
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Speaker 1: and I think if there is I don't want to

474
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Speaker 1: say justice because that's a weird word to use in

475
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Speaker 1: the situation, but like, I think he has earned the

476
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Speaker 1: right to be a Hall of Famer in this next

477
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame class in twenty nineteen. I really enough.

478
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: And there's an argument, there's certainly the argument team made

479
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Speaker 1: that he should have been a part of this class,

480
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: no doubt he is not. And so now that is

481
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: just the situation, the voting, the process, right, and we

482
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: always point to the process sometimes it really underscores that

483
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: they're not in the locker room right all the time

484
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Speaker 1: with those same players and what those players do to

485
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Speaker 1: their own team. Yes, yeah, and that was the point

486
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Speaker 1: that you made when we were on the phone last week. Yes,

487
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Speaker 1: that's all. I don't like talking to DeMarco about these

488
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: kinds of things because it just no, I just, I mean, look,

489
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Speaker 1: they all deserve to be in. I just it's it's

490
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Speaker 1: the way you have to wait to get guys in,

491
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Speaker 1: and I mean they are and because there are only

492
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Speaker 1: five modern era guys that can go in in one

493
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Speaker 1: particular year, it's elite, it's elite company, and and you

494
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: have to wait your turn sometimes. Yeah, and this really

495
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: this is a great class of modern Hall of Famers.

496
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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Brian Dawkins, Ray Lewis, Randy Mosterrellos

497
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Speaker 1: and Brian are allowed all desert absolutely, yes. So that's

498
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: the other thing. It's like, okay, well you want to

499
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: put one guy in, Well, who would you take out?

500
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that you can really take out one

501
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: of those guys, you know. I'm with you. I'm just

502
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I played against those two receivers. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 1: I played with this one. Yeah. He was every bit

504
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Speaker 1: as scary as they were. Yes, and he was the

505
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Speaker 1: reason we were winning games for the most part, even

506
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Speaker 1: when we shouldn't win games. He was the reason. So

507
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: maybe I'm a little bit biased. Maybe you are, But

508
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: I think it's also like, like I said, if you

509
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Speaker 1: look at the numbers and you look at and you

510
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Speaker 1: know what Isaac Bruce did there, I don't. I mean,

511
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: there's certainly this guy should be a Hall of Family,

512
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: no doubt. You know, Bay is retired for the Rams

513
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: for a reason. What's your favorite river driver? Want the

514
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: wrong way on the freeway with this vote? Yeah, but

515
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: you got to worry and you had like you said

516
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: you had pasta. Everything works out at some point, yea,

517
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: at some point we'll be partying and canton with Isaac. Yes, yes, yes,

518
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: I think some some points soon. Um, so you got

519
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: You and Matt also were at the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

520
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: I was at the Pro Bowl. What was your favorite

521
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: thing from the Senior Bowl? Oh? Man? Um, just watching

522
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: the the the the youngsters compete, the youngsters. Yeah, the

523
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Speaker 1: kids coming out of college. I mean, just watching these

524
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: young guys compete. We were actually on a plane with

525
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, so I was sizing him up. Just SiZ

526
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Speaker 1: You're not making a height joke, because that's kind of

527
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Speaker 1: what that sound. I wanted to see how tall you're

528
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Speaker 1: He really just looks like a normal, average guy, looks

529
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Speaker 1: like a normal bystander getting on a plane. Yeah. I

530
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Speaker 1: wanted to see like what he was like in person,

531
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Speaker 1: up close and personal, you know, how he handled everything,

532
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, just little things when people weren't watching him. Yeah,

533
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: let me see how he handled that. I mean, and

534
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: to see that guy get off the plane. And then

535
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: we went and got something to eat and just you know,

536
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where we're supposed to because we

537
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: got delayed. But he went right from the plane right

538
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: to the practice field, you know, and looked like he'd

539
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: been there since it started. The guy is obviously a competitor.

540
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: I was just trying to see how big and how

541
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Speaker 1: tall he really is. Yeah, I'm six one and we're

542
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: on that little tiny plane, so I'm judging my roof

543
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: space to him. You know, he may be I think

544
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: he's my height, maybe a little bit tall. Yeah, he

545
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: measured in I think it's six foot and three eighths

546
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: or something like that. I necessarily couldn't see over the

547
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: top of his head, but you know, I could see

548
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: over the top of his head. But that's always interesting.

549
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, when you have a quarterback who is maybe

550
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: a little on the shorter side, how do they find

551
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: those passing lanes. Guys like Drew Brees, guys like Russell Wilson,

552
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: they have to find those passing lanes in order to

553
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: excel and be a good quarterback. Well, you know, for

554
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: guys like Breeze, it's funny when you look at his numbers,

555
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: the interception numbers, especially sometimes he's really on. Sometimes he

556
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: throws twenty picks in a year. He's throwing the spots.

557
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: That's why they do that all that offseason work. When

558
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: he's doing the route trees NonStop, because that's where he's

559
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: throwing it. Maybe he doesn't necessarily see that receiver. That's

560
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: where you're going to be, and that's where the ball

561
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: is going to be. If there's a mistake, then they

562
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: get it. But you could be that sort of quarterback,

563
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: or you could be like Russell Wilson move to find

564
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: space to throw the balls. Yeah, I think that's the guy.

565
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: He's going to be a move to buy time and

566
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: to let things open up, to be more of a

567
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: jazz session quarterback and more of a Drew Brees more

568
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: of a jazz session quarterback. I've heard that term a

569
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: couple of times. I like that term. Yeah. I mean

570
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: they say the beauty is improvising. Yeah, the beauty of

571
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: jazz is in the mistakes, right, there are no mistakes,

572
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 1: it's just music. Yes. Yeah. So who else impressed you

573
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: them down there at the Singer Bowl? Uh? The interior

574
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: guys were beasts and you know bringing up names right now,

575
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard because we're just getting to know that.

576
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: But the end tarry your guys. Uh, there's some studs

577
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: out there at defensive tackles. So when you think of

578
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: maybe guys that you're looking for the next Aaron Donald,

579
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: maybe that doesn't exist there, but you know, the next

580
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: one technique, the next nose tackle. Definitely in that group, right,

581
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean there's some wide body, strong guys that refuse

582
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: to be moved. Uh. Some of the the left tackles

583
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: that we saw very fleet footed, and they all they're

584
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: starting to change. The NFL as a whole is starting

585
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: to change. Uh. You don't see a lot of big,

586
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: heavy stomach guys or big upper body types and and

587
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: and big lower body types. It's like these big arms,

588
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: small chest, skinny legs and they all can move. Interesting. Yeah,

589
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: that's that's the new NFL tackle. At least that's what's

590
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: coming out. That's what we saw there. I think that's

591
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: part of the the evolution of the college game too, right,

592
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, like you're not necessarily asking guys to play

593
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: in power offenses where you're just pushing guys back, you know,

594
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: you have you're pulling guards and doing things like that. Yeah,

595
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: maybe that has something to do with it. Well. I

596
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: mean like here there was a transition here from one

597
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: staff to the next to where it was all about

598
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: brute strength and power into above the neck. Yes, above

599
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: the neck got you into the postseason. So I think

600
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: that's the way everyone's going now. Yeah, less of a

601
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: physical presence, more of This guy's very, very cerebral with

602
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: this with his football. The one thing I always think

603
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting about the Senior Bowl is that

604
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: the entire process is kind of a job interview. The

605
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: same with the Combine in many ways. But you're as

606
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: a player, You're going in there and you're playing a

607
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: system you don't know for coaches you just met. Oh yeah,

608
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: how awkward is that sucks? Man? I mean it's what

609
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: you've been playing in college is one thing where they

610
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: let you play and where you're more effective is one thing. Okay, Now,

611
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: when you're moving into the next level, they're going to say, well,

612
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: I think you project at this spot right even though

613
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: you've never played there. So let's put you out at

614
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: defensive end. Let's put you back at safety, put you

615
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: out over here. So you don't have a choice in

616
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: where you're playing right off the bat. It's up to them.

617
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: This is why they're choosing you for this spot. Now,

618
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: depending on how you develop and how you play, I mean,

619
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: you may be able to get back to what you're

620
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: doing what you do best. Look at LaMarcus Joiner. One

621
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: group had him as a slot defender, this group had

622
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: him as free safety. That's where he wants to be.

623
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: But you have to weather that's storm to get there. Yeah,

624
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: that can be a tough part. Well yeah, I mean

625
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: some guys can't handle it mentally. This is funny just

626
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: going back to defensive lineman for a Senior Bowl what

627
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: we saw talking to some of these kids, you know,

628
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: just relax play ball or relaxing. What's wrong? Why are

629
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: you so frustrated? Well, they won't let me rush from

630
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: the right. I'm better on the right. I think they

631
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: know that. That's where they're putting you on the left. Yeah. Yeah,

632
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: let's see how you react. But it's funny how a

633
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: kid may think. Man, if I can just be allowed

634
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: to do what I do best, they they'll see, Well,

635
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: this is the NFL completely different. Man. Maybe at some

636
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: point you'll get back to doing what you do best

637
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: or you're so good at doesn't matter. But as of

638
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: right now, you're a blank slate. Yeah, they're gonna put

639
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: you where they want to put you, and you're gonna

640
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: have to play. Now. Don't you have a Senior Bowl story? No,

641
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that story. It's a good story.

642
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not telling that story. I'm still kicking myself.

643
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: I am. I mean especially, and I've never been to

644
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl until I went with Matt. Yeah, and

645
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: now I get it. That's where if you want to

646
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: be one of those guys or rocket up the charts,

647
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: that's where it happens. In Mobile, Alabama. In Mobile, Alabama,

648
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: good food down there in Mobile, good seafood. Yeah, yeah,

649
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: great seafood. There's also a water Burger. Oh my god, man.

650
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: He had the whole place mapped out for Waterburger. I'm

651
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: telling you. We talked to every single part every person

652
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: we met in Mobile, we talked about Waterburger. Really. Oh yeah,

653
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: even at other restaurants that obsessed Tom. I just needed it.

654
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even get it until the last day when

655
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: i'd drive past the airport in my fifteen passenger van.

656
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's another story. And I went to water

657
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Burger and I was just hanging out by myself, and

658
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the way to end this trip.

659
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: This is how it's gonna go. I thought he had

660
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: saw like a mugging or a wreck because we're you know,

661
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: it's like it was late, We're going to our hotel. Yeah,

662
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: kind of frustrated, he starts banging on much I'm like, what,

663
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: what's wrong? Water Burger man happy? Okay, okay, it closes

664
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: at eleven. All right. So the only time I've ever

665
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: had water Burger was when we were in Dallas this

666
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: year and I had um, like a honey bis cheddar

667
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: honey biscuit. Honey cheddar. What now, HC B. Honey did

668
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: he take you noll with a couple of honey butter

669
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: chicken biscuit? Yes, it was a honey butter chicken biscuit.

670
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: I did not actually have the burger. I had a

671
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: steak when we were in Dallas, though. That was delicious.

672
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: You had a steak of water Burger. No, no, no, no,

673
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: you went to a restaurant. I'm saying I had a restaurant.

674
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I went to a restaurant on steak instead of going

675
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: to water Burger dinner or something. That was the biscuit.

676
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: It was fine. Yeah, it was good. Okay, I don't

677
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: know it was. I don't know it was. It was

678
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: brought up to the collection of it all that you

679
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: need to just absorb the entirety of the water Burger experience.

680
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like I dedicated to your burger spot. Yeah,

681
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: it was the honey butter cheddar biscuit, chickens. Yes. The

682
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: HBCB was brought up to me as if it would

683
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: be like the best thing ever, and I ate it,

684
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I would prefer to have

685
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: chick floy in this moment. Okay, well yeah, but it's

686
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: like more of a dessert than it's not like a meal.

687
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: It was we had it for breakfast. A chicken biscuit

688
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: is dessert. I mean, it's the afterthought. It's not why

689
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: you go to water Burger. Oh. The people I was

690
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: with seem to think it was not the specialty. No

691
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: I'm not, so I've not really had like but you're

692
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: not allowed to leave there with that one. So, oh

693
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to leave biscuit. It's like it's like

694
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: in a goodie bag. Basically, not really, but oh you

695
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: need to get it, like it's it's part of it,

696
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: all right. So I've had like one half of the

697
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: water Burger experience. I will still probably be an in

698
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: and out loyalist till the day I die, because I

699
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: do love it and out. It's what a hamburger is

700
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: all about. In fairness, I was totally against in and

701
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: out when I came out here. I was all aboard

702
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: the Waterburger train. I like it and out just as much.

703
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: But I can't give one over the other because they

704
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: have they're different parts of my life, you understand, Yes,

705
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: I do right there with you. Also like the way

706
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I feel about shake shack versus in and out, you know,

707
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: like I love shake shack. I think it's great. There's

708
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: a shake shack in the Delta terminal, apparently of Lax,

709
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: which I did not know until I was in it.

710
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: And then we had to go to the This is

711
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: when we were going to Orlando for the Pro Bowl.

712
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: I guess this is a good segue, but there's the

713
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: shake shack. And then we had to go to the

714
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: International terminal because for whatever reason, that's where the Orlando

715
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: flight was going out of. So I did not get

716
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: shake shack. So I could meet all my other colleagues

717
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: and said I had a Mommy burger, which is just

718
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: okay because it's in the air point nice. Okay, But

719
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: you know what, also I did try Have you ever

720
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: heard of this? There's this it's called the impossible Burger,

721
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: the impossible Burger. Yes, So I went to Chicago in

722
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: my vast travels over the last two weeks and I, um,

723
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: I was visiting a couple of friends. Um, but we

724
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: went to a Mommy Burger and we have this impossible

725
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: burger because it's what basically, it's um two vegan patties.

726
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: I think it's made of wheat and soy, and then

727
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: they put like this other chemical on it to make

728
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: it taste like meat, but to make it, yeah, to

729
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: make it taste of meat. But the texture is such

730
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: that you can kind of tell it's not meat. But

731
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: these patties are very thin. They're like um, um, steak

732
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: and shake okay, yeah, And so they just put it

733
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: on a burger and like, so the idea is that

734
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: it tastes so much like meat that it's impossible that

735
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: it's oh meat. So but yeah, I tried one of

736
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: these impossible burgers and it was fine, nice, it was

737
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: actually it was like a decent meal. It did make

738
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: me feel as I don't know when I was a

739
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: gross as you know one does when one usually eats meat,

740
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: but like it was decent good. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

741
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: I would have one in La if somebody wants to

742
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: take me to Mommy Burker impossible Burker'll try that. You should,

743
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: you should definitely try it. I think you would like it. Okay,

744
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: all right, But anyway, so Pro Bowl. So that was

745
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: my first time there at the Pro Bowl in Orlando,

746
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: and I think it was It's a good experience for

747
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: different guys to get to go school, to see Jared

748
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: there for the first time, Todd there for the second time,

749
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: somebody like Farrell Cooper you know, in there as a

750
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: kick returner. He gets to go. And Whitworth was actually

751
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: named a captain for that NFC squad. Yeah, exactly because

752
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: he's he's a captain. Yeah, he's been there, I should

753
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: say old, like people in their thirties aren't old, but

754
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: like he's older and he's been around the league. Yeah,

755
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: that's something that's old football. Yeah, but like Hecker is

756
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: there too, So it's just I thought that was really

757
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: cool to see all those guys down there with their

758
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: families and to sort of get to experience that different

759
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: aspect of that is cool. To have your your helmet,

760
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: your jersey, your your franchise, your team represented. Yeah, you

761
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: know with the best. When those guys are having fun

762
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: and they're on TV, and I think that's what it's

763
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: all about, just having fun. Now it should be yeah,

764
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: because football is a dangerous game, you know what I mean.

765
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: And it's like in this situation, you just you don't

766
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: want anybody to hurt. Just go out having a good time. Miles.

767
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm making you commissioner for the next five minutes. Okay,

768
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: you rule professional football. Wow? So I feel so powerful. Okay, good.

769
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Among other things that I would ask you to do,

770
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: can I go on the private jet in this? Absolutely?

771
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: You got everything. I would say this. You can't fix

772
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl because, like you said, football is just

773
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: too dangerous and you're talking about a bunch of all

774
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: stars playing one more game that doesn't matter. Is there

775
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: a way that you could eliminate the game part of

776
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? Or how would you or can you?

777
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what

778
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: exactly the right fixes. No, I can tell you, yeah,

779
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: I know, I can tell you. During the week and

780
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: you're just kind of standing out there a practice and

781
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: like I saw a secondary like Earl Thomas, Harrison, Smith,

782
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson and Marshawn Lattimore roll out there. I was like,

783
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean that's right. It's like drool.

784
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: I love it for a real game, Like, oh my goodness, right,

785
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: but it's not it can't be. Yeah, you know, and

786
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: the rules are I mean, it's it's there's so much

787
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: you can't do defensively, right, Yeah, so it's not really

788
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: a game. It's just a glorified exhibition. Yeah. Is that

789
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: really fun to watch? No? Yeah, I don't. I don't know,

790
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: especially when it's like it's it was monsooning down there. Yeah,

791
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: basically when the game was going on. So that was

792
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: kind of miserable for some of our producers. Yeah, shooting

793
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: video well, but I mean it's what it is as

794
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: long as it still pulls ratings and guys still like

795
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: to do it. I don't think there's anywhere around it. Yeah. Yeah,

796
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: just don't go there expecting a real game. No. Yeah.

797
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: What was fun was sort of the skills challenge, and

798
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: it was fun to see Off compete in that. And

799
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: it was kind of unfortunate that like he was one

800
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: point away and he was the first one to go. Yeah,

801
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: so um, And I was sort of watching it in

802
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: the stands as it was going on, but like golf

803
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: was pretty accurate on those things, and he had he

804
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: almost hit another target that would have broken it, and

805
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: that conceivably would have won it for him, but it

806
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: was fun to watch him do that, compete in that

807
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: and you know, then so he goes first, and then

808
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: Derek cargoes and then car gets one more point than him,

809
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: and that's that's funny. But yeah, Golf got twenty, Russell

810
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: Wilson got like eight. So the Seahawks that's not so bad,

811
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: right right. I think that's the most important thing. No.

812
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll love having a Pro Bowl running back

813
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: hunter everybody that's there, but having a quarterback being represented

814
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl that means things are pointing up

815
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: for your football. Absolutely, that that is for sure. Um.

816
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: One thing I do want to mention is that the

817
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Rams are now going to have to have some different coaches. UM.

818
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: And one big departure which we kind of didn't necessarily

819
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: anticipate happening, was Matt Lafleur going to the Tennessee Titans

820
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: to become their offensive coordinator under Mike Vrabel. He did

821
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: interview for that job for the head coaching job there,

822
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: and then there were reports that Rabel was trying to

823
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: hire I think Ryan Day out of Ohio State to

824
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: come down to be the offensive coordinator. That clearly did

825
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: not work. Out, and so Sean McVay allowed Matt Lafleur

826
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: out of that contract here for what is a lateral

827
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: move on paper but in terms of title, but it

828
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: really is a promotion for Matt Lafleur because he will

829
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: now get to call plays for the Tennessee Titans. Well,

830
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: let's say the Rams make the NFC Championship or go beyond.

831
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: They're in the Super Bowl this season, that was the

832
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: Rams instead of Philadelphia. They win. You start talking about

833
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: the Rams in twenty seventeen on offense, who's the first

834
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: name you bring up, Sean McVay right in Tennessee. If

835
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: you have a similar run with Mike Rabel at head

836
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: coach and the offense is leading the charge, who you

837
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: talking most about, Matt la Then your next step from

838
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: there is probably head coach. Yes, yeah, so it's it's lateral,

839
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: but there's more upside there. Absolutely. Yeah, if you can,

840
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: if you can figure out how to get Marcus Mariota

841
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: where you got Jared Goff this past season, Yeah, I

842
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: mean I think those head coaching doors probably open up

843
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: a little faster. Absolutely, and that that was part of

844
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: the reason why McVey m has send a couple of

845
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: different quotes. I think I saw this from Jim Watta

846
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: Titans Online dot Com. He was talking to mcveah, I

847
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: think on the red carpet and at NFL Honors, and

848
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: McVeagh really said, you know, this is what people open

849
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: doors for me in order to be to get to

850
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: where I am. So why would I not do the

851
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: same thing from Matt Laflora, you know, allow him to

852
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: advance in his career so that you know he can

853
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: go by. Wouldn't he can be I wouldn't stay right here? Yeah,

854
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't know until we went the Lombardi I think

855
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: you know. And on the personal level, I mean McVay

856
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: and lafloor I know that I know this from you know,

857
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: just being around they're they're pretty close, so I can

858
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: imagine that on a personal level, Yeah, you want not

859
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: only your great colleague, but your friend probably to be around. Yeah,

860
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: but you know this is what you want. Professional Yeah,

861
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: you you allow that guy to go get more experienced,

862
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: to go be the best he can be. That's what

863
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: you would do me. No, I'm keeping all the great

864
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: coaches with me. Absolutely. I don't know. Yep, I'm saying

865
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: no even before I answer the phone. No, yeah, may

866
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: I talk to hell No. On a personal level, I

867
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: too am upset that Matt Lafleur is gone because Matt

868
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: Lafleur was my best buddy, was he really? Yes? We

869
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: had we had the same vest, so oh wow, la Fleur.

870
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: I know you will never ever hear this. I will

871
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: miss you. I hope he does a great job. I

872
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: think he's a good coach. And you know what, this

873
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: is going to be great for Marcus Mariota because I

874
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: think you look at what Mariota did last year, there's

875
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: clearly room for improvement. And Mariota is is talented, I

876
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: think as any young quarterback and probably yeah yeah, and

877
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: with what he can do with his arm in his legs. So,

878
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: and Lafleur is a really good quarterbacks coach, has a

879
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: history of doing great things. So I wish those guys

880
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: not the more. And Derrick Henry. I wonder what he

881
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: does with Derrick Henry. Yeah, yeah, it could be the

882
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: next hammer in the AFC. Yeah, never know. Yeah, I'm

883
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: just gonna miss Sean McVay accidentally calling my office phone

884
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: looking for Matt Lafloor and me dialing. Did I never

885
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: tell you the story? No, I've never heard the story.

886
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, So okay, So I never used my

887
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: office phone because who's trying to talk to me? Why?

888
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: And why? We're all within right within ear shot? So, um,

889
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: I see I have a missed call. One day, I

890
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: come back from lunch and it just says the extension

891
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: number of who called, and I'm like, I don't know

892
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: who that is. So I hit redial and it says

893
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: dialing Sean McVay and I was like, oh no, oh no,

894
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: I hung up so quick, and um, yeah, I was

895
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: just really trying to figure out why Sean McVay would

896
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: have called me. I'm assuming looking for wow, So actually

897
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: he was looking for you and you never called him back. Yeah,

898
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: that was my one shot. I guess that's it. I

899
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: guessed it right now. Will You'll never have it again.

900
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: He asked me about what's wrong with Matt I call

901
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: him me and called me back. Oh wow. Something about

902
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: a bag of money anyway here, But with Lafleur's departure,

903
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: it means that Eric Kromer, offensive line coach, has been

904
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: promoted to run game coordinator, which is a title he

905
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: actually held when he was with the same I think

906
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: from twenty two thousand and eight to twenty twelve. I

907
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: might have gotten those years a little bit wrong, but

908
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: he held that title of run game coordinator an offensive

909
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: line coach, and he was really involved in, you know,

910
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: putting in the blocking schemes for the run game that

911
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: had Todd Gurley finished at second in the league in

912
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: rushing yards last year. Anyway, So and in some ways

913
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a promotion, but I

914
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: don't know how much necessarily knew he's going to be doing.

915
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: We'll definitely have to ask Sean McVeigh about that in

916
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: the coming weeks. But also Shane Waldron, tight ends coach,

917
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: been promoted to passing game coordinator. So that's something that

918
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: I think is going to be interesting, just the way

919
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: Waldron will work with Sean mcvayh in terms of implementing

920
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: the game plan and all kinds of things like that.

921
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm just guessing it's probably you have the same responsibilities

922
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: and just add a few more, as in, you're gonna

923
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: have to stand up in front of the team and

924
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: introduce what you're doing for the week. Yeah, you know

925
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: that that sort of stuff. Maybe that was Lafleur's job,

926
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: now it's now your job. So it seems like it's

927
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal, but I mean it

928
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: can be for certain guys. It might be, Yeah, who

929
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: coached better in this environment right now? You have to

930
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: face this amount if you want to coach now. So

931
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: it's just a little bit different. Yeah, But it's also

932
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: this McVay mentioned this before too, about promoting from within.

933
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: You know that he said that's the way the Rams

934
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: want to be able to do things because it means

935
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: that you're empowering coaches that you already have and that

936
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: you're keeping some continuity within the team so that you're

937
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: not just introducing a bunch of new people that people

938
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: don't already know. The Rams did hire Jetfish, former UCLA

939
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: excuse me, m offensive coordinator also worked you know as

940
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: qbst coach there and took over his interim head coach

941
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: after they parted ways with Jim Mora, And obviously he

942
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with developing Josh Rosen for

943
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: this year. And how we all know, Josh Rosen is

944
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: probably going to be one of the top two quarterbacks,

945
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: if not top three drafted in April. So it's another

946
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: good offensive mind that the Rams have added on to

947
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: the staff. So that's that's another positive. And now that

948
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen has gone from quarterbacks coach here to offensive

949
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: coordinator in Oakland, and then now you also have Lafleur

950
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: going to offensive coordinator in Tennessee. Yeah, I mean there's

951
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: going to be change, and it's hopefully it's changed in

952
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: the right way. Like you said, guys either get similar jobs,

953
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: or they get better jobs, or have put in the

954
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: position for better jobs, which you don't want. Is a

955
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: guy who, like you said, would you call it instead

956
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: of they fired mora, they parted ways? I got you

957
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: parted ways with he's so polite. I love it sometimes

958
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: to be out of work. Yes, period. I mean that's

959
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: you're just not good enough for this level. That's what

960
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: you don't want. You want guys moving on. So and

961
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: then you plug in the next good coach or potentially

962
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: great coach into your staff, into your system, and you

963
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: keep the ball rolling right. Yeah. Yeah. And one thing

964
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: Jared Goff said, I think this was he said it

965
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: to Gary Klein of the La Times that what after

966
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: mcvay's got mcveah has gone through now his first year,

967
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: he knows the ropes, he knows everything. And he said

968
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: that with la Fleur and Olsen having departed that he

969
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: might Goff might get spend some more one on one

970
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: time with McVeagh in terms of implementing game plans and

971
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: doing things like poor Jared, Poor Jared. Oh, do you

972
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: want to spend an off season with your head coach?

973
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: Not necessarily like the I don't think it was necessarily

974
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: in the off season, and I don't even think that

975
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: that's legal anymore under the new CBA. But I think

976
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: more or less in in um OTA's off season program

977
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: training camp during the week, I just picture like Rhonda

978
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: Rowsey's mom. Have you heard those stories about how she

979
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: trained Ronda Rousey, Like she would just jump in the

980
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: bed when she's like knocked out sleeping and put herround

981
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: on an arm bar and like scream, armmar, how do

982
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: you get out? And you're Dennistly, you know what I mean.

983
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're Sean McVay like coming into Jared maybe

984
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: three am. It's down right, what are you gonna do?

985
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: You know? Right? You know that sort of stuff. I mean,

986
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: But I mean more time with with Sean McVay for

987
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Look, they have to form that connection anyway.

988
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: They have to be tied at the hip. They have

989
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: to be almost married. You think of Aaron Rodgers, Mike

990
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Tom Brady. Josh McDaniels are on the same page.

991
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: They're of the same mind, They see the field the

992
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: same way. So the faster that connection happens between play caller,

993
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: head coach, quarterback, the better the team's gonna be. But

994
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, that's all this guy thinks about

995
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: his football. Yes that now that that's true. I mean,

996
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: my goodness, Wow, you'd have to fly like around in

997
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: the world to get away from him. Your vacation would

998
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: be like in Tibet, just no phones, nothing, Jared, I

999
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 1: was just thinking of this place. So you just get

1000
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: to know the helicopters. Wow, that doesn't make this kind

1001
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: of skit, you know, like where does Sean McVay find

1002
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: Jared gone everywhere? On a boat? That's actually really funny. Um,

1003
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: so we're almost done here. We've gone through all the

1004
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 1: different things about that. I kind of had to say

1005
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: on on my little that's all you got. Actually, you

1006
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: know what, No, we didn't. Um, what's next when it

1007
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: comes to football is the next heading. You got decisions, man, Yes,

1008
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: you got choices. Exactly um what I put there, I

1009
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: mean Alden Gonzalez VESPN wrote that this week, you know

1010
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: that there are three guys that the RAMS will likely

1011
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: have to make decisions on who continue, who currently have

1012
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: contracts and what he The point Alden was making is that, look,

1013
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: you've got guys like Tavon Austin, Robert Quinn, Mark barn

1014
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: and there now might be some question marks around surrounding

1015
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: their future with the RAMS based on what their contracts are.

1016
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: Those are just three guys that you know they based

1017
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: on the contracts, it might make sense that the RAMS

1018
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: might have some questions to answer with that. But also

1019
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: you've got guys like Truemain Johnson, like LaMarcus Joinner, like

1020
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: Nikel Robie Coleman, who are all going to be free

1021
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: agents once the clock it's March March fourteenth, you know,

1022
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: and the new league year starts, and those are also

1023
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: guys you have to think about that. The part of

1024
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: the reason why you see so many MOP drafts with

1025
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: the RAMS selecting a member of the secondary at number

1026
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: twenty three overall, it is because of number twenty two, yes, yeah, yes,

1027
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: and because you know you also have Joiner and Robie Coleman,

1028
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: who might be elsewhere in theory. If they don't get

1029
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: locked up to me, you got to put a fence

1030
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: around LaMarcus Joiner. Yes, literally and figuratively. I mean, the

1031
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: guy is fit to be tied. On game day. He's

1032
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: as calm as you can get off the field, But

1033
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: on the field, the guy as a menace. And I

1034
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: think he's in position to become one of the better

1035
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: free safeties in the game the way he plays, so

1036
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: I think he has earned that. Um. It's funny when

1037
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: you had a choice between Tremaine and another safety a

1038
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, it was what was his name?

1039
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: He went to Jenkins. I mean that's corner, no safety.

1040
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean t J McDonald TJ. Yeah, it was TJ.

1041
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: At one point, do you keep the safety of the corner?

1042
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: I said, keep the corner, no doubt. Now it's corner

1043
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: in free safety. Well you you you must keep the

1044
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: free safety. You're you're you're saying your decision was between

1045
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: Tremaine and Rodney McCloud. Then not McLeod It was oh

1046
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: my god, j McDonald TJ. No. But I think you're

1047
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: talking about the twenty fifteen offseason. That one was Rodney McLoud,

1048
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: not Rodney. Last year was t J McDonald t signed

1049
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: with Miami, right, So are you talking about last year? Yes? Okay,

1050
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: did I say two years ago? I just was trying

1051
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: to I was just trying to make sure we're on

1052
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: the same page. I still don't know if we are. No,

1053
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: I call time out. No we are, we are? It

1054
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: was It's it's look, LaMarcus is a guy you must

1055
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: have back, right, Yeah. Yeah, there if there's no if

1056
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: ends or butts, and if there was a competition in

1057
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: years past between this corner and this safety or this guy,

1058
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: and I would lean towards the corner. Okay, now it's different.

1059
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards the free safety. I guess we're on

1060
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: the same page. Yes, we are, absolutely. Yeah. And that's

1061
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: not to say I wouldn't want Tremaine Johnson back. I

1062
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: just don't know what the numbers are going to look

1063
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: like and who's going to offer him what? Right, Yeah,

1064
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: So we'll find that out at some point. But you

1065
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: can't have LaMarcus leave the building in my opinion, Well,

1066
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: you also have the guy like Sammy Watkins. You know,

1067
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: you talk about guys for the who are candidates maybe

1068
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: for the franchise. Tag LaMarcus I think would be one

1069
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: of them. Watkins might be another, simply because you did

1070
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: trade your second round pick in order to in in

1071
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: this upcoming draft, in order to get that guy from Buffalo.

1072
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: So in fact, that's your second round pick this year,

1073
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: and you gotta keep come around, right. I wonder what

1074
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: that What that's gonna cost the f I don't know.

1075
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: I wonder what that is going to cost. I mean,

1076
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: these are all the choices that you're gonna have to

1077
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: make at some point. But it's a cold, hard business man,

1078
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: and it's like for guys like Aaron Donald, it's it's people.

1079
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: You're you're not mad at people, you're mad at a

1080
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: piece of paper, right, You're mad at your contract. And

1081
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: your contract has your name on it. So the one

1082
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: thing that you can't beat it is just the business

1083
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: side of football. Yeah. Yeah, Sometimes all you can do

1084
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: is just play your butt off and what your turn

1085
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: and eventually it's gonna happen. Like I said, with Aaron Donald,

1086
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: his run of dominance is just beginning. So it's not

1087
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: going to run out or he's not going to outplay

1088
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: or not be in position to get paid at some

1089
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: point sure. Yeah, it's going to happen for him. It

1090
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: just may not be now, that's just the way it goes,

1091
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: but it could be now it certainly. He certainly earned it,

1092
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: no doubt, and he's gonna keep earning it. Yeah. Yeah,

1093
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: And that's another one of those decisions that the Rams

1094
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: are going to have to make right over the course

1095
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: of this offseason. So it should be fun. I mean,

1096
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: any carting shots before we let the people go here. No,

1097
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm confused about water Burger, but that's okay. Confused about

1098
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: water there's a chicken biscuit that's actually dessert. It's not

1099
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: really a dessert, but it's just like that's how you

1100
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: cap the meal off. So I cap off a burger

1101
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: or a Patty meilt or yeah, with a chicken biscuit. Yeah.

1102
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: I can't say a hospital near every water Burger. It's

1103
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: a cop man. Oh my god. Wow. Okay, geez, is

1104
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: there a hospital near every water Burger? There's no one

1105
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: near every in and out. That's what a hamburger is

1106
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: all about. And with that for our free for tobacco

1107
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: far I'm miles. Thanks for tuning into between the horns.

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Speaker 1: We will see you next time.