1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Grodowski. Thank 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: you guys for being here again. So I have some 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: big news to share with you, something that I've been 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: working on for about a year. For those who aren't 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: aware of my career and my history, back in twenty 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: twenty one, I got some's in school in the fourth grade, 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: and his teacher made his class we as zoomed. This 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: is during COVID during lockdown, read a book called Race 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Cars about how police profile black cars and not white cars, 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: and having a whole conversation about police brutality, say was 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: highly inappropriate, especially in a room where a lot of 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: people's parents were police officers. So I became outraged, and 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: I called a local elected official and PTA and all 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: the rest of us, and I just wondered, how big 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: of a problem is this nationwide? And so I really 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: became determined then to create a school board super PACs 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: and I had never been done before, to get involved 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: in local elections and try to help candidates get elected 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: to office running for school board unconservative policies, and the 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: pack has become and I don't like to brag about myself, 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: but it's probably the most successful local government political action 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: committee in the country, especially on the right. There's no 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: question I don't think. I've helped elect hundreds of conservatives 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: for school board office across the country, and they've done 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: amazing things with what they've done since they've been elected. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: After years of doing this, I would often hear back 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: from candidates after they were elected and saying, what do 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: we do? How do we what's the next steps? What 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: are some policy positions you can advise me on? What 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: are some things I should be doing differently? And I 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: didn't know the answer, and there were not a lot 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: of institutions that were spending the necessary time talking about 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: K through twelve, public education, sometimes in politics, and I'll 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: speak from a conservative stanpoint because I know it best, 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: but I know it's true on the progressive side, where 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: there is a lot of money in something, there is 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: a lot of interest because people pay for studies and 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: for lobbying and full the rest of it. But there's 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: a lot of money in school choice and in school 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: vouchers and not saying those things aren't good, they are 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: many times, but there is a lot of money. So too, Conservatives, 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: those ideas have become silver bullets that that's our solution 43 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: to all educational questions. Regardless of the fact that a 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: majority of kids go to public school and will go 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: to public school for the foreseeable future, and you have 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: to address where our kids are going, what they're doing. 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: You cannot wait until enough boucher programs are built. And also, 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: even though some kids are not going to public schools anymore, 49 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: they're going to private schools, they're going to charter schools, 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: the budgets for public schools still exists. They're affecting your 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: property value, they're affecting your taxes, They're affecting so much 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: they're still a whole unionized teachers' union in many states 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: that are having effects on our politics. You have to 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: address these issues. You can't just ignore them. So I said, okay, 55 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: we have to figure out something to do where we 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: are advising people in a nonpartisan way in case there 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: are moderates and even some progressives, are some Democrats who 58 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: want to know more about certain issues, that we could 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: sit there and fill that void. So last year I 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: created a foundation, a nonprofit cl the seventeen seventy six 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Project Foundation, where we look at issues regarding public education, 62 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: AI technology, Singapore, math, phonics, history, budget, information, truancy, discipline. 63 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: These are real complicated issues. I always about schol district. 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: School districts are like snowflakes. They all look alike from afar, 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: but when you're under a microscope, they're all very, very different, 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: and their needs are different, and it's very important to 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: address them on an individual basis. Right, school board members 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: come to us say this is the issue, let's figure 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: out a solution. Now there may be a blueprint, but 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: they even modified that blueprint on this issue or for 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: this specificity or that specificity. So it's something we've been 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: working with and I tapped my colleague and my employee, 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Aidan Bizetti to run it. He's brilliant, he's a really 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: hard work or. He's something I've really had a lot 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of pleasure getting to know and call him a colleague. 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: It's one of the great things is meeting some certain people. 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: And Aiden's definitely, you know, a five star superstar. So anyway, 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: I had Aiden's run the foundation. Aiden sits there and 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: takes the job and he's doing great work. And so 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: it's building on this nonprofit. And one day him and 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: I were in California for some fundraising events and we're 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: on a work trip and we're in a car, and 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: I brought up a story to him that I had 84 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: remembered from years ago, from watching a local news show 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: from years ago in a state that I do not 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: live in. My brain is very strange, by the way, 87 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: because I will recall a local news channel doing it 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: like an investigation into Bigfoot or this story or whatever 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: the case is, but I won't know why I walk 90 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: into the kitchen like it's very I don't understand why, 91 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: you know why I have to certain things live rent 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: free in my head all the time, but things I 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: need to know, like there'll be a word of like 94 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: what is that word again? And I just completely blank 95 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: and then like seven hours later, I want to scream 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: at the air as I remember it. Anyway, So the 97 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: story that I remembered in that car with Aiden was 98 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: their school district in Los Angeles, in the neighborhood of 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Silver Lake, if you know the Los Angeles area they were. 100 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Their student population was changing pretty dramatically. Gentrification had really 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: brought a lot of white families into the district, and 102 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Los Angeles School District has a rule that if a 103 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: district becomes thirty percent white or greater, they lose funding. Well. 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: Later on in the day, I spoke at an event 105 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: full of conservatives in Los Angeles. I brought this up, 106 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: and no one had heard about it. None of them 107 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: had ever heard this story. When I brought this up. 108 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: This is how their city functioned. This is how their 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: local unified public school district function So I got back 110 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: in the car with Aiden and we headed our way 111 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: to the airport, and I told him that this policy 112 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: is blatant racial discriminating against whites. It is absolute racial discrimination, 113 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: and we have to do something about it. Like no 114 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: one even knows about this, and thousands upon thousands of 115 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: kids are affected by this, not only even just white kids, 116 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: but also minority kids who are in a school district 117 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: that's too white. They're all affected by this. This is racism. 118 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: If we don't do it, no one's going to do it. 119 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: So it is. I'm very excited to announce that the 120 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six Project Foundation, which I founded, is suing 121 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Unified School District for racial discrimination against white students. 122 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: We spoke to parents in the district, we spoke to 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: policy makers, we spoke to so many people to discuss 124 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: what was going on. And we've found plaintiffs and this 125 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: is a real lawsuit like we're really doing. We're suing 126 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: LA Unified for racial discrimination against white students. I know 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: this sounds redundant, but racial discrimination is wrong. It's wrong 128 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: when you do it against Black Americans, and it's wrong 129 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: when you do it against white Americans. Democrats like to 130 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: pat themselves on the back and believe that this law 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: there a great defenders against racial discrimination when they have 132 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: become their biggest champions. You saw it in the Harvard 133 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: case against Asian Americans with a firmative action. You're seeing 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: it now in Virginia, where a Democratic legislator named jayon 135 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Ward I think he pronounced the name of is Geo Ward, 136 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: on her first day with a unified Democratic government, put 137 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: forward a bill to openly discriminate against white males who 138 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: want to work for the government as a contractor. The 139 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: bill said that for discretionary contracts under one hundred thousand dollars, 140 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: white men are barred from even being considered unless the 141 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: work is literally free, they're not getting any compensation for it, 142 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: or there's no competition. And even then, this bill allows 143 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: for agencies to award contracts to women or minority owned 144 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: firms that are five percent more expensive than the bid 145 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: from white business owners. It is discrimination. It's a tax 146 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: on being white and being male. And in the case 147 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles Unified School District, this is the first 148 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: major education lawsuit regarding racial discrimination against white students in 149 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: the country. This is the first one against public schools 150 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: that are doing this. I mean this is this is 151 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: like the Harvard case, which is about Asian Americans for 152 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: white Americans, for white students who are being tax dollars 153 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: are being used to discriminate against them. It is my 154 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: deep concern that as time has come on that there 155 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: is this push by the far left to increasingly take 156 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: on this narrative of racial resentment against whites, and it 157 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: will only continue. And that is why it is so 158 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: important right now to take on these discriminary discriminatory laws 159 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: so that way more aren't created, so that way we 160 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: have you know, judicial precedent to plamp down on this, 161 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: to stop it and to hopefully end this kind of discrimination. 162 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: So yes, I'm very excited announce this. I've been working 163 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: on this for a year. It's been We are willing 164 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: to take this as far as possible. We are willing. 165 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: If they want to take this to the Supreme Court, 166 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: we are going to meet them at that. We are 167 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: going to take this anywhere it possibly can. We are 168 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: determined to get this law reversed. And if this, if 169 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: we find out more, where we find out more schools 170 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: are doing this, We're going to take it to them too. 171 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: We're going to use this to as the blueprint of 172 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: what the law defines as the racial discrimination, what is 173 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: discriminatory against white students, And we are going to be 174 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: there in this case and possibly more cases in the 175 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: future if they're brought to us. So I'm very excited 176 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: about this and I will keep you guys posted. So 177 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: coming up for this episode is the president of the 178 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six Project Foundation, my good friend, my employee, 179 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: my colleague, Aida and Bizetti. He's going to sit there 180 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: and tell everybody the marriage of this lawsuit. I'm very excited. 181 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. Aiden Bizzetti is the president of the seventeen 182 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: seventy six Project Foundation, my colleague for the last four years. Aiden. 183 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on, not that you had that 184 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: much of a choice, but thank you for being here. 185 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on. 186 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: Ryan. 187 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: It's it's always a pleasure. And so before we go 188 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: into the actual lawsuit, what was your and I never 189 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: I want to know your actual thing because you worked 190 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: with me for a while. Now, what was your reaction 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: when I told you about this story. 192 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I didn't really believe it. I 193 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: thought it was just one of the things that you say. 194 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: But but I mean it was. 195 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: It was. It was true things I say. 196 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sometimes you say the craziest thing and 197 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: they're always true. By the way, like I did, I 198 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: didn't believe it. 199 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: Now, I didn't. 200 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: I didn't believe it, or I guess I thought it 201 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: was possible, but I didn't understand how explicit the program 202 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: actually was in the school district itself. 203 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Well, when we went to go do that speaking event 204 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: later on the day, I brought it up and no 205 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: one believed it or have heard of it. Do you 206 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: remember that? Yes, it was. 207 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 2: There was like an audible gasp from people, and then 208 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: every single person that came up to you they were like, 209 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, is this actually true? 210 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: Every single person. Yeah, it was. It was the one 211 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: thing that was kind of wild. And when I said 212 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: to you, like I want to see if we could, 213 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: I will credit aid and I sometimes I throw eight 214 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: in it almost impossible tasks, and nine times, ninety nine 215 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: times out of one hundred he gets them done. This 216 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: if you ever see like the Devil War's product, it 217 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: was very much get me a copy of the new 218 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Harry Potter book moment. But I was like, let's toe 219 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: LA Unified. And I mean that was really like, I mean, 220 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: did you were you like Bryan's really lost his mind 221 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: at this moment, maybe only a little bit. 222 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, uh, how am I 223 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: supposed to do this? Figured it out luckily enough, but yeah, 224 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: it was. 225 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: A lawyer in like three months learning all of the 226 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: whole entire process. So okay, let's go into the actual lawsuit. 227 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: Is what does LA Unify do that is racially discriminatory? 228 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: So they have a program called the PHBO, which stands 229 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: for predominantly Hispanic, Asian, Black or other non Anglo. And 230 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: through that PHBO program, which comes from a decades old 231 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: order which we can get into in just a minute, 232 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: they use the racial makeup of their individual schools to 233 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: assign specific preferences to the schools that are designated PHBO, 234 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: which means that their student population is less than thirty 235 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: percent white, they get a set ratio for the class size. 236 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: They get more funding for teachers and administrators, they have 237 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: set parent teacher conferences, as well as more points in 238 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: their Magnet application system. So if you come from a 239 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: racially a racial minority background or from those schools, you 240 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: get additional points when you are applying to a Magnet program. 241 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: So so basically, if you as long as you don't 242 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: go to a school that is thirty percent white or greater, 243 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: you get all these benefits that are not that are 244 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: excluded from whites, and not even just whites, excluded from 245 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: non whites who happen to have one in three kids 246 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: in the same classroom. Being white extraordinarily discriminatory. Where does 247 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: this rule or like this not law, but I guess 248 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: this rule come from. 249 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: So it comes from a court order from the early eighties. 250 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: I believe it was nineteen eighty one. Actually stems originally 251 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: from a lawsuit in the sixties. In the sixties, Los 252 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: Angeles Unified was majority white, and so they had a lawsuit, 253 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: a desegregation lawsuit brought against the district. It took twenty 254 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: years to resolve, and in the nineteen eighty one order, 255 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: they basically commended that the school district they basically set 256 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: the ratio, so twenty five to one are there or 257 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven to one or lower student teacher ratio for 258 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: the classrooms in majority non white schools. What they didn't 259 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: do was demand that the school district set a higher 260 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: ratio for what would be a quote unquote white school. 261 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: But the most striking thing in the court order which 262 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: really led us to proceed with this was that the 263 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one order, the judge said that the circumstances 264 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: the makeup of the district had no relevance to what 265 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: it was twenty years prior when the suit was first filed. 266 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: So in that twenty year period, the district went from 267 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: majority white to majority non white, and they just wanted 268 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: to end the lawsuits. So the judge wrote in the 269 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: order that they just needed to bring a resolution to 270 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: the case. So it was a ruling that they also 271 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: found no actual segregation in this sp school district, which 272 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: was one of the main reasons that it was filed. 273 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: So they basically suggested a bunch of solutions to the 274 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: district that over the last forty years has been more 275 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: f new a program that is actually discriminatory against white 276 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: students and Middle Eastern students as well. 277 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: Right, because I think this is a really important dealt. 278 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: What is considered white is ever changing. Right, Middle Easterners 279 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: are considered white, Persians are considered white. People from the 280 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Caucuses are considered white. Certain Latin American countries are considered white. 281 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: There's no like strict terminology. It's this moving goalpost. And 282 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: it's funny. When we spoke to a few reporters and 283 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: journalists about this, their answer was like, oh, well, there 284 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: is in an imbalance, almost as if every school is 285 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: required to be twenty five twenty five, twenty five to 286 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: twenty five, like literally like perfect proportion, even with no change. 287 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: What makes it odd to me is if you're in 288 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: a city that is, you know, minority white, with the 289 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: student population and being extremely minority white, how is there 290 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: an expectation that you're going to have an even distribution 291 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: of a very small population like that makes no sense. 292 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: And the fact that a lot of these post civil 293 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: rights litigation and laws, they're for a country that doesn't 294 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: exist anymore, Like the populations aren't there. We used to 295 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: be a biracial country, We're now a multi racial country, 296 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: so that in itself is always kind of like strange 297 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: and daunting. How tell me about the process of reaching 298 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: out to parents and what they were afraid of join 299 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: this lawsuit. 300 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so when we started the process early on, we 301 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: worked obviously with parent groups, individual parents, trying to define 302 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: any connection to people who currently have student or children 303 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: in the school district, currently students or in some way 304 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: another head standing for this lawsuit. And there were a 305 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: couple of main roadblocks to it. The first was that 306 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: many of the parents who could afford to took their 307 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: children out of the public school system, So that alone 308 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: eliminated a number of parents and students because they simply 309 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: didn't believe in the public school system that it was 310 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: good anymore. That the second was for the people who 311 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: did have children, who did have standing, were members of 312 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: our organization, they were afraid of retaliation. So if you 313 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: look at our complaint, our plaintiffs are anonymous and we 314 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: are representing them. We are suing on their behalf, but 315 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: they requested anonymity because they are afraid of retaliation from 316 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: both the school district because they currently have students in 317 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles public schools, but also the community at large 318 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: is a very liberal community, and it's hard to tell 319 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: what the social ramifications will be. Talking to the parents 320 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: and one giving them the rundown of what's happening and 321 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 2: how they've been discriminated against them, and two convincing them 322 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: to take part in this lawsuit was I wouldn't say 323 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: it was a large challenge, but it did require many 324 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: extended conversations to give people assurance that they weren't going 325 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: to face the social consequences and austraization of their community 326 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: as a result of this. 327 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: You know, for people who are political and very political 328 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: involved in interested in politics and involved, it seems like 329 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: how could you not want to sit there and do this? 330 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: But for normal everyday people, it is like why would 331 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: you want to put yourself in the firing line. So 332 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: the parents that did come forward, I mean, are extremely 333 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: brave for getting involved in this. What are I mean 334 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: we're working now to try to do we file this 335 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: lawsuit in federal court? What are next steps? Let's say 336 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: I have a question, perfect question for you. Let's say 337 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: you're a parent listening to this and you have a 338 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: kidnewy unified. Is it possible sit they're and try to 339 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: join this lawsuit. 340 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: Yes, So as of the day that we filed it, 341 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 2: which would be Jare twentieth, we have I believe it's 342 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: between thirty to sixty days I think close to the 343 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: thirty side where we can make changes to the complaint 344 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: before we officially serve it to the school district. So 345 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: there's about a month window where parents could join as 346 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: plaintiffs on this lawsuit, or organizations that represent parents in 347 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 2: that area could do what we have done and ensue 348 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: or join this on behalf of their members. Once we 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: serve it to the district, then we start the whole 350 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: legal process. Where we serve it, they file a response, 351 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: probably try to get it dismissed. We respond to that, 352 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: and the back and forth continues, and they have and 353 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: the legal bills continuum, and the legal bills continue, and 354 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: the billable hours skyrocket and all of that fun stuff 355 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: for budgeting. But we have, yes, we have thirty days 356 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: before we serve it. Then they have I think twenty 357 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: days to respond. So we're looking at just for the 358 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: opening period of this case at least two to three 359 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: months before we really get into the meat of it. 360 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: Right, And I think the discovery part of it's going 361 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: to be very very interesting if they go there, and 362 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: if they go further. I think that this law stuit 363 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: is really important one because we're willing to take it 364 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: as far as we possibly can, you know, to make 365 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: sure this law has ramifications and has changed, but also 366 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: because it could serve as a model for other districts 367 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: that are doing discriminatory practices against I mean, it's primarily 368 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: it's there. There was such a pushback of the civil 369 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: rights laws against you know, discrimination against minorities that for 370 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: some reason, discrimination against whites became acceptable to certain people. 371 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: So I think this would become a good case study 372 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: for people for looking at other places that have discrimination 373 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: against white students that you know, that need to be changed. Certainly, 374 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: what are some other things the nonprofit seventy six Foundation 375 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: Project Foundation is working on right now. 376 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: So we've been working a lot actually on disciplinary policies 377 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: and artificial intelligence AI in particular is a real high 378 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: button issue for many many reasons. And many of the 379 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: school board members that we've been working with are split. 380 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: You know this of course, but on the pack side, 381 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: many of the people who were running for school board 382 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: during the pandemic were very much pro transparency. They were 383 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: anti lockdown, anti mask mandate. They were very skeptical of 384 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: technology in the classroom and just a lot of the 385 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 2: waste that comes along with it. 386 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, learning by zoom, which proved in the end not 387 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: to be that effective. 388 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: And so many of these people have been fairly in 389 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: favor of cell phone bands. But now that AI has 390 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: rapidly become an issue, of course, people are saying to 391 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 2: them it's such an important tool. Kids need to know 392 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: how to use it to navigate the modern world and workforce, 393 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: which I think is a little bit overstated, but they've 394 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: been You know, many of these school districts have budgets 395 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: in the millions and billions, so they have a lot 396 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: of vendors come to them promising them miracle solutions and tools. 397 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: This is aig. This is that people do not understand 398 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to education. You're like, how is there 399 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: so much waste? If you were running, if you were 400 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: a superintendent of a county wide school district, especially like 401 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: in Arizona or in Florida. When I Arizona, Florida, California, Nevada, 402 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: or a major school district outside of Dallas or outside 403 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: of New York, the amount of vendors who come to 404 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: you constantly, who throw parties, who throw retreats, whatever, and 405 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: just pedal stuff to you is wild. There was one 406 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: I remember this one school district in uside Dallas where 407 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: they found out they were doing they had three of 408 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: the same reading programs. Do you remember the story, Like 409 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: they were like the literal of the school this news 410 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: sintendent was like, this is crazy. And that's why one 411 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: of the women we work with, who was a school 412 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: board member at in Florida or she always says you 413 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: need to do audits immediately upon entering office becoming a 414 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: school board member, because the amount of like what kind 415 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: of swamp inside even school districts is immense as far 416 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: as just crazy spending. 417 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: Goes exactly, and with a a lot of these AI 418 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: tools are kind of insane actually relevant. The LA Unified 419 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: School District spent several million dollars on a chatbot within 420 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: the last two years, and they had a huge scandal 421 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: because the startup that they used to build a chat 422 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: bot broke the law and they process student data overseas, 423 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: which is I mean, it violates existing federal privacy laws 424 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: among other things that are contract with the district. But 425 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: the superintendent went on a huge media tour talking about 426 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: this custom chatbot and you know, lo and behold it. 427 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: It puts student privacy at risk. So there are a 428 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: lot of things with this technology that board members and 429 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: superintendents are still trying to grapple with, and so we 430 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: hosted an AI working group retreat with school board members 431 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: in October and we've been working with them to craft 432 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: and pass AI policies in school districts at large. We've 433 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: been taking a middle ground approach where basically between grades 434 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: one through in elementary school, no technology, no AI. In 435 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: middle school, we've actually had school districts adopt AI ethics 436 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: courses so they learn how to engage with AI and chatbots, 437 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: hopefully in a more responsible way, and then maybe allowing 438 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: some experimentation in the high school level, depending on what 439 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: the schools want to do. But we've been helping set 440 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: up that framework. We've had a few school boards pass it. 441 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Now. 442 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: We've also been pushing a two hundred and fiftieth resolution. 443 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: It is the semi quens centennial in the US. We 444 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: have over twenty school districts that have passed a resolution 445 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: that celebrates the Semiquin centennial and instructs the superintendents and 446 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: principles to host civic events and bring in speakers and 447 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: talk about our founding principles and our documents. So I'm 448 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: very excited to actually see those start to play out. 449 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: Some of them happen as early as April, and as 450 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: some even continue the next year, depending. 451 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: On what the Boar wants to do. 452 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: So we've been working on those projects and they've been 453 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: we've had an amazing response from school ward members so far. 454 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you've got you've done. The Foundation's only a 455 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: year old and it's done really incredible work because you 456 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 1: run in your year star, So thank you so much 457 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: for doing this podcast. We're going to go to donate 458 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: to the foundation tax deductible or I just visit and 459 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: see what the law, what we're up to and with 460 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: the losses up to. 461 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: They should go to Foundation one seven seven six dot org. 462 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: We're going to be posting updates there. You can also 463 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: become a member of our organization and we'll be sending 464 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: out regular updates on what's happening in LA. 465 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming this podcast. Thank you now it's 466 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: time for asking me anything. Guys. I'm so happy I 467 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: told you guys my inbox was empty because you filled it, 468 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: so I appreciate that so much. I have plenty of 469 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: questions to get to. If you want a part of 470 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: Asking Me Anything, I will get to all your questions. 471 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: By the way, if you're a part of Asking Me Anything, 472 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: only ryanat Numbers Gamepodcast dot com. Ryan at Numbers, Numbers 473 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: gamepodcast dot com. This makes it the whole show. I 474 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: love Ask Me Anything. First question was actually a YouTube 475 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: comment by a guy named Randy Hurlzoman. He writes about 476 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: the last episode where I talked about ICE deporting so 477 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: many people at places. We're losing congressional districts, district states. 478 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: We're losing congressional districts for the twenty thirty reapportionment. He 479 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: writes interesting analysis for the electoral college implications. Is there 480 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: any reason to believe that ICE is deporting more people 481 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: from blue states than red Seems like big red agricultural 482 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: states have a lot to lose too. That is a 483 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: great question. And no, they're actually deporting more people from 484 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: red states than blue but it doesn't matter. And let 485 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: me tell you first. The reason they're deporting more people 486 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: from red states than blue states is because the states 487 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: are complying with federal immigration law. So when someone is 488 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: arrested for a DUI and they're illegally here on the country, 489 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: a detainer is put out for them, they're picked up 490 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: by ICE, and then they are deported. That is not 491 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: happening in Blue states and Blue states. They are arresting 492 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: them and then releasing them, even with an ICE detainer, 493 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that ICE cannot picked up and deport them. 494 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: Blue states are openly re releasing criminals back into communities. 495 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: The states with the most ICE arrests as of October 496 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: the fifteenth, which is the last state the federal government 497 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: has updated, was Texas with forty six thousand, six hundred 498 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: and thirty two ICE arrests, Florida with twenty thousand, one 499 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen, California with seventeen thousand, six hundred and 500 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: thirty seven, Georgia with eight thousand, three hundred and sixty five, 501 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: New York with seven thousand, two hundred and three, and 502 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Arizona with five thousand, eight hundred and sixty eight. The 503 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: difference is those red states that I listed can afford 504 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: mass deportation because of so many Americans moving to those states. 505 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: Right even though Texas lost forty six thousand. I guess 506 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: people would be counted in a census for the purposes 507 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: of reapportionment. They're gaining well more than that because Americans 508 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: want to live in a no tax state with less regulations. 509 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: California losing seventeen thousand, six hundred people cannot afford to 510 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: lose people because they're already losing native born Americans. So no, 511 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Red states are getting more people deported and arrested by 512 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: ice than blue states are, but blue states are Blue 513 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: states have more to lose because less Americans want to 514 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: move there. Okay, Emily writes short time listener, first time caller, 515 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, hi, Emily, a long time 516 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: speaker now, but I'm happy you're here. I just want 517 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: to say I think you truly hit the nail on 518 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: the head on how you answered your Famil question on 519 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: Friday's episode. It's almost like your thought was in my head. 520 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: I have been able to personally put into words about 521 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: how we are all children of God and it's and 522 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: us verst them where orange bad dynamic is really impacting 523 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: our communities in society. I feel like how you answer 524 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: your question is extremely clippable. For social media reels. I 525 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: should probably clip it. I'd never thought of that, and 526 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: it's really the kind of consciousness that I personally think 527 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: we should all be exposed to, for everyone to take 528 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: a step back and truly remember our humanity. I don't 529 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: have a question right now, but I'm excited to keep listening, 530 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: especially when you cover New Jersey. I'd highly recommend you 531 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: interviewing Congress and Jeff ran Drew some times represents South 532 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: Jersey that he was a Democrat became a Republican. Yes, 533 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: thank Emily, thank you so much for saying that. That's 534 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: really nice of you. I get very nervous talking about religion. 535 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't like talking about it. It's just it's, you know, 536 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: so many people I so many people are preachy, and 537 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to be I want to be relatable 538 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: the best I possibly can. I want to tell you 539 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: how I'm personally trying to get to a better place. 540 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: But what I'm doing is not what everyone should be doing. 541 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: And I, you know, if it's a journey, it's not 542 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: a guilt trip. I'm not trying to make you, you know, 543 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: do what I do or say what I say. I 544 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: hope that I can try through, you know, through trial 545 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: and error to learn to be an example for people 546 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: like that's especially people I have to deal with day 547 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: and day out. Like you know, I have a lot 548 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: of all my employees are men in their twenties, and 549 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: there's like eight of them now and eight or nine. 550 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: I forget on the samony, but I want to. I 551 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: think about this all the time because I think about 552 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: how I have to be an example even in a 553 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: workplace setting. Not only for just how you conduct yourself 554 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: as far as being professional goes, because I fail that, 555 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: you know more times than I succeed, but how to 556 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: be professional, to how to show ethics and how to 557 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: show ethics in what you do, and to work ethically. 558 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: There's a fashion designer named Brunello Cucinelli, and he makes 559 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: very expensive clothes, but he has brilliant videos about the 560 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: ethics of work and ethics of an employer. And I've 561 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: gotten a lot out of him saying that and what 562 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: he says and what he believes, and I try. He's 563 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: a very big example for me that I've tried to 564 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: repeat and tried to say, Okay, how do I provide 565 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: dignity to somebody that we are in a contract there 566 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: my employee. How do I make them feel like they 567 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: are respected and they are dignity and the dignity of 568 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: all people. It's very you know, esoteric and woo woo 569 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. But I think about 570 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot, and I'm not perfect at it, but I 571 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: try and so I am using whatever little things I've 572 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: learned along the way as I approach thirty nine years 573 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: old that I can pass along and see if I 574 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: could do it. So thank you and Jeff Andrew. I 575 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: would love to have Jeff Andrew on. I think he's 576 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: a very interesting congressman. He's very popular in South Jersey, 577 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: and I think he's the only Republican who is like 578 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent nay rale, which is the pro abortion 579 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 1: nonprofits rating. I think that, you know, I think it's 580 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: an interesting guy. He was a Democrat for a long time. 581 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: I would love to talk to him. Okay, last question 582 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: for the episode, Ryan, Big Bangers Show. Been listening since 583 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: the beginning. First became aware of you through your page, 584 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: your joke on CNN and appearance on Claim Buck Great. 585 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: That's uh, just listen to your latest show, and you 586 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: talked about the books you've read, wanted to get your 587 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: take on Atlas Shrug and The fountain Head and how 588 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: prescient they are for our times. Atlas Shrug in particular, 589 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: I read Atlas Shrug and graduate school. I don't think 590 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: I've ever read or listened to anything more impactful or 591 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: clarifying in my mind for the differences we see today 592 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: between liberals, the moochers and conservatives, the producers. The kind regards, Ryan, Ryan, 593 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: thank you one amazing name. Two, thank you for listening. 594 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: I have never read Atlas Shrugged or The fountain Head, 595 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: and I have not read a lot of books I 596 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: should have. I was a horrible student in high school, horrible, 597 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: I cut class, I was always just was rebelling. And 598 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: then in college I kind of started picking up on reading. 599 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: But it wasn't even until after college I started trying 600 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: to become a reader. And everyone has always said to 601 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: me that I Ran was a terrible writer, like actually 602 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: as a talent, as being a writer, I don't know. 603 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: I've never read them, so I can't sit there and say, oh, 604 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: that was you know, she's a terrible writer or whatnot. 605 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: But everyone's always said skip it, don't bother reading it, 606 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse. When you're like, Okay, I'm going 607 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: to dedicate my time to reading an old classic, which involves, 608 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, which a lot of contemporary fiction books, they 609 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: they're men for contemporary audiences, so they like grab you 610 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: when you're like, oh my gosh, this was an incredible 611 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: book from like the get go I read. I read 612 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: a few recently that I thought were incredible. Wait a second, 613 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys too. If you guys like fiction, 614 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: which I try really hard to sit there and spend 615 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: some time to read fiction, you know, because I think 616 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: it's good to change it up a little bit. The 617 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: two that I read I really like was The Great 618 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Believers Becca Mackay. I thought that book was absolutely incredible 619 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: and gosh, now I'm blanking the other one. I will 620 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: come back on my next episode. I will tell you 621 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: guys the other book, the fiction book that I read 622 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: that I thought was really really good, Great Believe it 623 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: was just happened to be right here modern day take 624 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: on David Copperfield. It was I will get into you, guys, 625 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: I promise. I rarely should have prepaired for that answer anyway. 626 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: So their memphic typer audiences, they're very very good. Demon Copperhead, 627 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: that's the name of it. See, this show is not 628 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: always pre written. I mean Demon Copperhead, which I thought 629 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: was really really good, could have the last and then 630 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: could have been a little shorter. I thought it was 631 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: getting a little redundant at the end, but it was 632 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: a great book. So my point is is that if 633 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: you're going to spend the time to read a classic, 634 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: and you're going to read a C. S. Lewis, you're 635 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: going to read Mark Twain, You're going to read books 636 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: that are extremely brilliantly written, but they are written for 637 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: an audience at a certain time, and they take a 638 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: lot of energy to sit there and read it. You 639 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: wanted to at least be written very well. And everyone said, 640 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: always told me that iin Ram was not an actual 641 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: good writer, although the stories and the concepts were good. 642 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: I should get around to it. Try. I will try. 643 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: I promise. I have a bunch of books now on 644 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: my to do list is last year I was not 645 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: doing great. I'm reading a biography of William F. Buckley, 646 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: which decent. It's a decent book so far. I'm almost 647 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: done with it, but it's it's long, and I think 648 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: at some points a little uh you can tell that 649 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: the author is a bit of a liberal because there's 650 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: a lot of focus on how William F. Buckley lead 651 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: out race, which like, okay, it's not the sum of 652 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: his entire parts. Anyway, Thank you so much for listening 653 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: to this podcast. I really hope you enjoyed it. If 654 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: you want to learn more about the lawsuit, you can 655 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: go and check out our website. And if you like 656 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: more about this podcast, please like and subscribe to the 657 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app Apple podcast where every get your podcast. I 658 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: will talk to you guys next episode