Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay,
Speaker 1: welcome to wind down. I was like, stop talking, this
Speaker 1: is good stuff. Um. If you can't recognize the voice,
Speaker 1: we have Austin Nichols on Wine Own. Hello, thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. Um, this is fun and sorry, we
Speaker 1: were just talking about your mullet. Well it's not a
Speaker 1: true mullet, because you know, true mullet is party upfront. Sorry,
Speaker 1: business upfront, party in the rear. So but my front
Speaker 1: is long and also scraggly, so it's not a true mullet.
Speaker 1: But when I have a hat on, it's getting it
Speaker 1: looks like I have a wallet a little bit. And
Speaker 1: just I've been working, I was I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't need a haircut. I don't want a haircut. Let's
Speaker 1: let it go. So I'm mullets are totally in right now,
Speaker 1: are they? Yeah, doesn't have a mullet. Yeah, sure. I
Speaker 1: think I remember looking one time in going I think
Speaker 1: that's he's like the guy, the mullet guy. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: Wait the kids are that's like the back in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I can keep going with this. Yeah, apparently you
Speaker 1: want to be a party in the front, but you
Speaker 1: know it's a It's definitely a departure from from what
Speaker 1: um Julian would have Julian Julian was weird. He started
Speaker 1: off with like a shaved head. I was giving myself
Speaker 1: a hair cut before I started work on One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill and accidentally the guard fell off the thing and
Speaker 1: I shaved a line in my head. So I got
Speaker 1: to work on the first morning and Greg Range and
Speaker 1: hair and makeup were like, what do you what happened?
Speaker 1: So they had to like shave my hair down even
Speaker 1: more and like spray paint the back of my head
Speaker 1: when I started. So I started with like a really
Speaker 1: really buzzed, really short haircut, and then it grew out
Speaker 1: over the years. Okay, so the hair was a lot
Speaker 1: shorter on One Tree Hill. And I feel like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean like I kind of wish Julian
Speaker 1: would have brought in some of the curls. I'm digging
Speaker 1: the curls. Yeah, I'm embracing my natural growth and curl.
Speaker 1: Now I'm an older man, I'm more comfortable with who
Speaker 1: I am. Here's a question, though, if someone was to
Speaker 1: ask you to cut your hair, would you be fine
Speaker 1: with Because I know some actors like when I get
Speaker 1: into you know, they're like, I'm not not cutting it, okay.
Speaker 1: So I never understood that because I always I want
Speaker 1: to do what's right for the character. And if the
Speaker 1: character has, you know, short hair, if he's as a
Speaker 1: military crew cut, if he has a pony, I just
Speaker 1: want to do what's right for the character. So I
Speaker 1: love wigs, I love getting haircuts. I love changing it up,
Speaker 1: changed color, I don't care. But now that I've actually
Speaker 1: spent time trying, like letting it grow, it takes so long.
Speaker 1: Girls not this. I don't think guys noticed it takes
Speaker 1: so long to grow your hair out. If somebody says
Speaker 1: cut it, you're like, but I spent all this growing up.
Speaker 1: It really so hard for this hair. Can I just
Speaker 1: say thank you for having empathy for girls, because you
Speaker 1: now get it, because I swear when I cut my hair, oh,
Speaker 1: the man was like, I don't know, like seven months ago.
Speaker 1: I regretted it instantly because you realize how long it
Speaker 1: takes to grow out. Again. I also understand why girls
Speaker 1: say I don't want to get my hair wet right now? Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: always like jump in the pool, jump in the lake.
Speaker 1: Who cares? I don't want to get my haircut or
Speaker 1: I don't want to get my hair wet right now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, why now I get it right? Yeah? Like
Speaker 1: because and I don't say it with like the long hair,
Speaker 1: like I don't. You can't really shower your hair every
Speaker 1: day because I'm just like greasy and so. And also,
Speaker 1: when it looks good, it looks good. You want to
Speaker 1: keep it good for as long as you can. Is
Speaker 1: when it looks the best problem I know. And then
Speaker 1: ohen Catherine, she's the bun is back. But so she
Speaker 1: got her hair. Her hair is always in a bun.
Speaker 1: It's got like that like curliness, curly. But we had
Speaker 1: the Wine Down tour and she had her hair straightened.
Speaker 1: The amount of comments that I got about your hair
Speaker 1: was insane. And Katherine's like a crap, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to have to do the work. I'm never gonna be
Speaker 1: able to wear a bun again because everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: she looks great. I'm like, what did I look like before?
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's totally fine. I'm making an appointment tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But how do you feel that? Because it's like, I know,
Speaker 1: it's when you read comments, right, that's one of those
Speaker 1: things where they probably made you feel amazing, and then
Speaker 1: also I still want you to feel amazing now in
Speaker 1: the bomb like you look you're Catherine. I mean, the
Speaker 1: reality is I don't really care. I mean, I'm always
Speaker 1: going to have the bun um. But you know, I
Speaker 1: can go a little half and half, you know, half
Speaker 1: fun half the week because I can't go all the
Speaker 1: whole week without washing my hair right and I can't
Speaker 1: straighten it myself. So I'm still going to teach her how.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not that hard, girlfriend. We got this
Speaker 1: to do it when I was younger, but it's just
Speaker 1: so much work. It is a lot of work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not worth it. We're gonna We're gonna go to
Speaker 1: because we obviously have to ask Onetree Hill questions because
Speaker 1: you know we'll get there. But I haven't seen you
Speaker 1: when I ran into you in November at the Onetree
Speaker 1: Hill Convention, and it had been eleven years since I
Speaker 1: saw you, really, I think, so that's crazy. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean we stopped the show when it would have been
Speaker 1: less than ten really because we're still I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been over ten since the end,
Speaker 1: because I remember when I directed I think I was
Speaker 1: thirty one and that was the that was the last
Speaker 1: two seasons. And yeah, it's been over a decade. So
Speaker 1: what has changed? What do you mean with what has
Speaker 1: what has changed with you? Where from when you were
Speaker 1: on the show too now as a as a human
Speaker 1: like who you are, has something changed? Absolutely? I think
Speaker 1: I was when I was younger, I was so hyper
Speaker 1: focused on my career and you know, finding the best
Speaker 1: things to do and and just and go go, go,
Speaker 1: like really really fast. And the thing that has changed
Speaker 1: for me in the last few years has been speed
Speaker 1: and pace of life. And I've slowed down. I tried
Speaker 1: to breathe and relax and not eat fast and onto
Speaker 1: the next thing. And I was always I was always
Speaker 1: rushing to the next thing. I feel like, and now
Speaker 1: I truly try to take my time and like enjoy
Speaker 1: every moment, enjoy little things like little stupid things, the
Speaker 1: dumb things that we do all day in life, like
Speaker 1: finding a parking space. I'm like, I got this from
Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld, um fall in love with your parking space,
Speaker 1: And I love that because it just says, you know,
Speaker 1: we have to do all this stupid all the time.
Speaker 1: But if you go, oh, no, I'm going to find
Speaker 1: the best parking space right now, and I am going
Speaker 1: to have fun finding this parking space. I mean that's
Speaker 1: a silly example. Well but yeah, all kinds of things
Speaker 1: in life like that, and I feel like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find joy and all this stupid stuff. It's almost
Speaker 1: like intentions, Like you're really setting intentions of joy and
Speaker 1: you're I really I really like that a lot. Good too.
Speaker 1: Jan How long do you think you take to eat?
Speaker 1: I think I take, especially as a mom like Sere.
Speaker 1: So this is interesting that you say this because a
Speaker 1: lot I get a lot of dams and people saying
Speaker 1: do you ever eat? Because whenever you're you're with the
Speaker 1: kids and you're filming, they're always eating and you're just
Speaker 1: kind of not eating. Um, and it's hard. I mean
Speaker 1: I I eat fast. Yeah, I mean I do too.
Speaker 1: But like I think about that, like, yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: it's a good one. It's a good one to think
Speaker 1: about to sit down and take your time and eat.
Speaker 1: I like it. It was really beautiful eyes by the way,
Speaker 1: thanks really nice. And your pupils did you take acid
Speaker 1: before you got pupils are huge, they're beautiful. Have a
Speaker 1: concussion yeah, it's not going to start breaking out, thank you, no,
Speaker 1: but there is something in what you just said because
Speaker 1: coming in a little baby um with even when we
Speaker 1: were working out earlier, I would just I laid down
Speaker 1: and I was just like I just started to breathe,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have not taken a breath in
Speaker 1: like three weeks because if I had the kids so
Speaker 1: much and in just like the tour and moving in fact,
Speaker 1: it's just it felt so nice to just breathe. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it was so relaxing. And then again like the in
Speaker 1: the intention of like I said this to um, I
Speaker 1: went where was I want somewhere just for a fun
Speaker 1: little day trip, and I said every interaction I want
Speaker 1: to I know I said this before I choose joy,
Speaker 1: but just be so like with the flight attendant, I
Speaker 1: was like, Hi, how are like a like actual genuine
Speaker 1: conversations and interest and not fake, but just be like
Speaker 1: really care about what they're saying, and then my intentions
Speaker 1: of what I'm saying, And it felt awesome. I was
Speaker 1: so much happier. Absolutely, it's so easy to breathe through
Speaker 1: those wo be like I gotta go. Yeah, but like
Speaker 1: I'm on a road trip, right now And I did
Speaker 1: the same thing yesterday. I was in Memphis getting coffee
Speaker 1: and this lady was like, tell me about your van,
Speaker 1: tell me about your dog. And I sat there and
Speaker 1: talked to her. I tried to talk to her for
Speaker 1: a while and really answer a questions. Same thing. It
Speaker 1: just makes you feel better, I think too, Like I
Speaker 1: felt happier doing that instead of just passing I have
Speaker 1: to go to go to the important. It takes the
Speaker 1: focus off yourself, honestly, Like if you're actually taking time
Speaker 1: to speak to someone else and hearing them out kind
Speaker 1: of takes you out of your own focus on yourself
Speaker 1: because we're all naturally focusing on ourself the majority of
Speaker 1: the day, if we're honest, So it's kind of nice
Speaker 1: to take that break and listen to somebody else and yeah,
Speaker 1: and make other people like smile, Like when Cathy the
Speaker 1: check and lady with the tickets, I was like, how
Speaker 1: are you you know, genuinely, like I really want to know,
Speaker 1: Like how are you? I love? Um, what is one
Speaker 1: thing that you think you still struggle with that you
Speaker 1: would like to do some more growth with. That's a
Speaker 1: good one, Um, I think I think. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like it might be wrapped up in the
Speaker 1: In the same answer, I I guess I cared a
Speaker 1: lot about um being really good at what I do,
Speaker 1: and and I wanted other people to think I was good.
Speaker 1: And there's not necess certaly anything wrong with that. But
Speaker 1: if I think, if you worry about it too much,
Speaker 1: it can be dangerous. And I mean, I think we
Speaker 1: all feel like, I feel like we all want to
Speaker 1: be good at something, or we want to be recognized,
Speaker 1: or we want people to go, oh, you know, here's
Speaker 1: not an award, but like here's you know, recognition. But
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe maybe I cared too much when
Speaker 1: I was young about stuff like that, and I'm I've
Speaker 1: let or m letting that go entirely like I don't
Speaker 1: really care right now, and you know you're good now,
Speaker 1: but like the confidence right, like you know you've got credits,
Speaker 1: you're directly you you you know you're good, right. I
Speaker 1: think I'm good at some things, yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm good at some things. I think I'm
Speaker 1: not great at some things. Also, well, no one's perfect,
Speaker 1: and even there's always work, there's all you can always,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can always strive to be better
Speaker 1: and all that, but but truly now I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't care. I want to have as much fun as
Speaker 1: I can in these moments, and like where I am working,
Speaker 1: I want to work with great people who are nice
Speaker 1: and lovely and care about what they're doing too, and
Speaker 1: have as much fun with them as I can and
Speaker 1: and go home. And you know, so that's that's definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean, you asked if where I still need work,
Speaker 1: and I definitely haven't mastered. I haven't mastered that yet.
Speaker 1: But that's that's something, Okay. I like that. That's something
Speaker 1: I will say. You are. I mean, you're obviously everyone
Speaker 1: that knows you and watched your stuff, you're incredibly talented.
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget there was one moment where when
Speaker 1: two of my best scenes was with you. Um. One
Speaker 1: when we were sitting on the couch that I hate
Speaker 1: myself when I'm quiet, um. And then the other one
Speaker 1: was when I was so drained from filming that um
Speaker 1: where I was crying a bunch when all there are
Speaker 1: you know, the attempted suicide and all that stuff happened,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't cry, and you held my hands and
Speaker 1: you were just like just look at me and I
Speaker 1: was like, awesome, I can't, I can't, I can't, I
Speaker 1: can't cry, Like I just I can't do this, and
Speaker 1: You're like just look at me, and you were like
Speaker 1: squeezing my hands and then it was like water works
Speaker 1: and like that was such a gift as an actor
Speaker 1: that you gave to me, and it was on my side,
Speaker 1: like you you know, you didn't need to do that,
Speaker 1: and you were just not only are incredibly talented, but
Speaker 1: you're a very giving actor too, And I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that moment that was. You remember it too,
Speaker 1: of course, I'll never forget that because often as actors,
Speaker 1: we we're just the other actor in the scene and
Speaker 1: there are moments where we can't help each other and
Speaker 1: it's there's sometimes hard to find and hard to figure out,
Speaker 1: but it can happen. And um, I love that that
Speaker 1: just happened spontaneously and and um it did. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was cool, and that doesn't happen all the time.
Speaker 1: I've no and I've also taken that and like the
Speaker 1: when I was doing one of my last films, I
Speaker 1: remember like this girl was struggling and I was just
Speaker 1: I did what you did? And it's like there's to
Speaker 1: connect with someone else and just be present and not
Speaker 1: worry about you don't need to do it right the
Speaker 1: second and just just sit and stare and like look
Speaker 1: at me. And then like that girl just started and
Speaker 1: I was like, I did it, Austin, that's good, that's
Speaker 1: so great. Yeah, but I just I never I never
Speaker 1: forgot that. So um Catherine, Yes, So Austin is on
Speaker 1: a new show that we we watched. Yes, I had to.
Speaker 1: I had I had to ask him, and I did.
Speaker 1: I asked him. So they were real? I told you, well,
Speaker 1: I thought maybe they're about half and half. Okay, go ahead, Austin.
Speaker 1: The new show that you're on, Le's plug it right now, okay.
Speaker 1: Um Minx on HBO Max is the really really cool idea.
Speaker 1: I love the show. It's about a woman in the
Speaker 1: seventies who has a feminist magazine that she's trying to
Speaker 1: get off the ground and everywhere she goes as a no.
Speaker 1: And she's at this big conference for magazine people and
Speaker 1: she meets a guy who's a porn publisher and he says,
Speaker 1: I like your idea. I'll make your magazine, but it
Speaker 1: has to have naked men. In it, So it's sentially
Speaker 1: essentially about the first UM female porno mac or like
Speaker 1: the first um porno magra. There's male naked men and um,
Speaker 1: it's brilliant Idea. Ellen Rappaport created it and she's fantastic,
Speaker 1: And RACHELI Goldenberg is directing a bunch of the episodes.
Speaker 1: She's fantastic. She's done a bunch of great movies. UM.
Speaker 1: I was thrilled to get the call and until they said,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, full frontal nudity, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: oh lord, I mean I got admit. I've fast forwarded
Speaker 1: after about the gosh, I don't know tent one that
Speaker 1: I saw like it just the first episode. They were
Speaker 1: just close up, literally one after another after another, and
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't just she was she was screaming
Speaker 1: and I come running into the room and I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: I just see balls and dick flapping up and down,
Speaker 1: all kinds of different shapes and sizes and flavors. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was it was something. It was yeah, okay, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna sit back and just let you
Speaker 1: just try to figure out this question. Just I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna let you squirm in this moment as your best friend.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of questions. Okay, So, first of all,
Speaker 1: those were real as far as I know that sequence
Speaker 1: where it was like all the close ups, I think
Speaker 1: those were all real. If it wasn't all of them,
Speaker 1: it was most of them, because sometimes they're not real, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And sometimes like look, they do an amazing job with
Speaker 1: prosthetics and and my favorite, my favorite word, merkin, the
Speaker 1: pubic wig. The merkin is such a fun word, and
Speaker 1: they do an amazing job with that stuff. But every
Speaker 1: once in a while, yeah you can tell. I mean,
Speaker 1: you just can't write. Maybe you can't. Maybe you can't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. We had this disagreement
Speaker 1: as they were flashing on because I thought that they
Speaker 1: were real. You thought that they weren't real. And there's
Speaker 1: always like, what's that casting call say when they put
Speaker 1: out that breakdown exactly need real dicks. Um. Well, that's
Speaker 1: where it takes me to my next question. So you
Speaker 1: got the call and it says it tells you on
Speaker 1: the front end full frontal nudity. So you're saying you're
Speaker 1: also when naked in there? Yeah, I just missed it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got it, all right, just make sure. Well I
Speaker 1: don't know if I missed it. I don't know because
Speaker 1: I just got so you know, well you probably haven't
Speaker 1: gotten to my episode yet because you wouldn't miss it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but it's not But it's not your dick though, I'll
Speaker 1: never tell you told me. It's a prosthetics. So the thing,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Can I ask a question about that?
Speaker 1: Some spoilers coming, just so you know, Um, yes, you
Speaker 1: can ask whatever you want first. So the thing was
Speaker 1: that spoiler? Or you know, turn off for a second
Speaker 1: if you want. Um. No, I don't think anyone's going
Speaker 1: to turn off My character, Billy Bronson, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He's like when Super won Super Bowls, they
Speaker 1: call him the goat. He's you know, been in the
Speaker 1: league for a really long time. He's the Southern is
Speaker 1: and awful, a little awful, misogynistic quarterback. Um. The whole
Speaker 1: point is that he wanted to um pose direct for
Speaker 1: the magazine, and everybody the magazine starts going what what
Speaker 1: the heck, what the heck? We can't do this, we
Speaker 1: can't do this, we can't do this. He comes out
Speaker 1: in a robe and he is, he's up and you know,
Speaker 1: and then the whole thing takes place. I won't say anymore.
Speaker 1: So you can go watch it and enjoy it. But
Speaker 1: you know the logistics of shooting a scene. You know,
Speaker 1: it takes half a day or all day to shoot
Speaker 1: a scene. So it's like, how I mean, they couldn't
Speaker 1: ask me to take you know, six doses of viagraph?
Speaker 1: But would you have? No? No, no no, But like keeah,
Speaker 1: a guy just get it hard when he wants to
Speaker 1: get it hard, but for six hours, uh, in front
Speaker 1: of a bunch of strangers, constantly with a camera lights
Speaker 1: on you and then constantly if it, you know, dips
Speaker 1: down getting it back. Maybe some guy out there can
Speaker 1: do it. But I don't know. That would be that
Speaker 1: would be tough and terrifying. Well, here's my question. If
Speaker 1: it didn't have to be erect, would you have shown
Speaker 1: it not erect? Honestly depends on the material, the script,
Speaker 1: the show, the movie. Would you have done it for
Speaker 1: the show? Well, i'd have to it would be a
Speaker 1: different I don't know. I'd have to read the scenes
Speaker 1: because they'd be different. Um, I'm not gonna say no. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm also you know I'm shy and like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I really don't know. It's this case by case scenario.
Speaker 1: I've said no to most of that in the past
Speaker 1: because shy, um, but I'm not gonna say no. But
Speaker 1: you never know, I didn't. I never thought I would
Speaker 1: do this, and I did this, so I don't. I
Speaker 1: really don't know what I would do. So can we
Speaker 1: just talk about the prosthetic part, like how did you have?
Speaker 1: Like they obviously had to, so that was interesting because
Speaker 1: I had two people, you know, applying it for we
Speaker 1: had two applications on two different days on your penis, yes,
Speaker 1: and two people on essentially on their knees right here,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, applying And I'll tell you what, I
Speaker 1: didn't know how intensive a thing it is because they
Speaker 1: have to, you know, shave all your body hair, and
Speaker 1: then they have to you know, put glue, apply the latex,
Speaker 1: then put this other stuff, and then put this other stuff,
Speaker 1: and there's all these layers of stuff before you can
Speaker 1: put the mark in over it. And it I think
Speaker 1: the first day it took two hours, and then the
Speaker 1: second day it took an hour. So it's really you're
Speaker 1: standing there buck naked for two hours for an hour
Speaker 1: people down there, it's very awkward, but you're you're uncomfortably
Speaker 1: laughing a lot. And yeah, and you know, jokes are
Speaker 1: made and it's weird and you know, but we tried
Speaker 1: to have a good time with it and just laughing
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, And are you happy with the work
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Because it's not about
Speaker 1: your penis, It's about the work. And so, I mean,
Speaker 1: I love the character, I love the show. I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a blast. And um, it was great working
Speaker 1: with Ellen and Rachel and all the other directors. They
Speaker 1: have a bunch of great directors, a bunch of great actors.
Speaker 1: Jake Johnson is a dream to work with. Um. I
Speaker 1: didn't get to work with um Ophelia. She we didn't
Speaker 1: have any scenes together. I hope I get to work
Speaker 1: with her someday. Um the supporting cast is all fantastic.
Speaker 1: I loved them. They were a lot of fun. Um Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like overall, just great, great experience. And then watching I
Speaker 1: love the seventies too, so watch, you know, seeing the
Speaker 1: clothes and the sets and all that. I just love
Speaker 1: that time period. So it was fun for me as
Speaker 1: a viewer, you know. Yeah, I mean it's definitely something
Speaker 1: I'm like. When I saw the pictures and watched, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is this is this is Austin,
Speaker 1: Like this is cool. Like you're like you're a character
Speaker 1: and that's you do that you do. Yeah, You're welcome,
Speaker 1: keep going because I compare to that episode. Oh man.
Speaker 1: But and also now you're directing, yes, ma'am so Walker.
Speaker 1: Um it's a reboot of Walker, Texas Ranger, which is
Speaker 1: a fun and beloved show with Chuck Norris if you
Speaker 1: didn't know. And um, yeah, I I've been I've directed before,
Speaker 1: directed One Tree Hill, I've made a short film and
Speaker 1: few little things. But it's been hard to find another
Speaker 1: directing spot. And I've been shadowing directors for years and
Speaker 1: just talking to everybody I know and looking for opportunities.
Speaker 1: And um, Walker was amazing because they wanted to help
Speaker 1: me do this and they gave me a shot. And
Speaker 1: I love them all so much, and you know, I'll
Speaker 1: never forget you know, them going to bat for me
Speaker 1: with the studio and the network and saying no, we want,
Speaker 1: we want Austin to direct. And um, I'm really proud
Speaker 1: of the show. It turned out really good. I hope
Speaker 1: you guys enjoy it it. Um, I won't say much,
Speaker 1: doesn't want to spoil it, but it's a search and risk.
Speaker 1: It's called search and rescue. Its episode to eighteen, and
Speaker 1: there's um, there's a hell. There's a helicopter and a
Speaker 1: rescue element. So I got to do huge, almost like
Speaker 1: feature film stuff with a helicopter. That's so cool. I
Speaker 1: mean not almost, like absolutely feature film stuff. And I
Speaker 1: was pinching myself the whole time. It was so fun.
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, one't your hill look at me
Speaker 1: because you're a super fan that I just found out about.
Speaker 1: She likes to play up this story. Well yeah, I've
Speaker 1: known her for eleven years, and she was like, by
Speaker 1: the way, I loved the show. I told you I
Speaker 1: watched the show because I saw her singing, and that's
Speaker 1: how I figured, oh, she's a singer. Blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But what I didn't say is that, like
Speaker 1: my family got together and watched it like that just
Speaker 1: likes the show. That's not bad. It was a great
Speaker 1: show that we know we love. That just left a
Speaker 1: few things out. Did you did did you did you
Speaker 1: love working on on your Hell? I did? I did
Speaker 1: I love telling a story for a very long time.
Speaker 1: It was the longest I think I've ever been a
Speaker 1: part of a show. Yeah, I think I've done. I
Speaker 1: thought you were. No, I've never done. Unless I'm forgetting something,
Speaker 1: I've never done anything that long. And staying with one
Speaker 1: character and telling something long form is really fulfilling in
Speaker 1: a different way. You know, you make a movie and
Speaker 1: it's over in a few months or a few days
Speaker 1: sometimes and it's easier to let go and forget you.
Speaker 1: The people are easier to forget. I know it's a
Speaker 1: horrible thing to say, but it's true. In movies, you
Speaker 1: just you don't see you didn't spend the time with them.
Speaker 1: And on a long running show, I mean you you
Speaker 1: spend so much time with the cast and crew years
Speaker 1: of your life, and you know, you really sometimes relocate
Speaker 1: to another place, live in another place, which is exciting
Speaker 1: and hard. Um. Yeah, so there was, I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of amazing things that came from it. I also
Speaker 1: that's where I got to direct first, and that was
Speaker 1: really great. Um, we were roommates, isn't that crazy? We
Speaker 1: really lived together so funny for like a year. Front Street,
Speaker 1: Front Street, Downtown Wilmington's rooms. It was. That was so
Speaker 1: I really love that downtown area. That was fun. I
Speaker 1: dug it. You could walk to you know, fun dinner
Speaker 1: spots and it was fun until the bar above us. Oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot about. That was so annoying because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't sleep. I totally forgot about. That was the worst.
Speaker 1: And then in the next year, you guys moved down
Speaker 1: to the beach and I that was my favorite was
Speaker 1: living at the beach because I love the ocean. I
Speaker 1: love riding my bike around. Yeah, rights, Phil, that was
Speaker 1: that was really saying favorite scene? Do you have one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: There was a big another rescue. It was Brooke and
Speaker 1: Jamie went off the bridge in a car and the
Speaker 1: car was sinking. When was that? Was I there yet? No?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Katherine, I don't remember. I remember. I
Speaker 1: feel like it was towards I don't remember what season
Speaker 1: it was. How long were you on before Jane was
Speaker 1: I started in season six? Was seven? Okay, so I
Speaker 1: thought you were way before me. So, yeah, car goes
Speaker 1: over Brooke and Jamie they're sinking. I go in and
Speaker 1: you know, I get to be the hero and it
Speaker 1: was really fun. But it was. I just love to
Speaker 1: do stunts. I love to do stuff in the water.
Speaker 1: It's it's a whole another element. It's just super fun.
Speaker 1: I love that episode. Did you ever think Alex and
Speaker 1: Julian would get together? No? If I'm being honest, I
Speaker 1: know no. I know no one wanted to be with Alex,
Speaker 1: and I'm just not that's not true. Well, it's funny
Speaker 1: because I think, you know, I've often played characters that
Speaker 1: you can relate to, that I can relate to your
Speaker 1: struggle like you know you can relate to mine. I
Speaker 1: often play characters that are that role in the show
Speaker 1: or the movie where you know, I was the second
Speaker 1: guy or the other guy. And it's not always great.
Speaker 1: It can be hard, but imitates life. It's like, why
Speaker 1: can't I get the girl? Why can't I be the hero?
Speaker 1: And you know, but that's okay, Like we all have
Speaker 1: our our places, and you know, we're I feel like
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're stoked and super
Speaker 1: lucky to be working and and being you know, in
Speaker 1: these cool shows and movies. But yeah, there are times
Speaker 1: where you're like, I will say this on the flip side,
Speaker 1: playing villains and these roles is really fun. Like I
Speaker 1: have talked to leading men and women who are sometimes like, yeah,
Speaker 1: to be the more real center of the show, and
Speaker 1: to be a lead is so boring, Like I never
Speaker 1: get to do anything bad, I never get to make
Speaker 1: mistakes a point all this. So there's the flip side,
Speaker 1: Is it's fun. Yeah, Gosh, I'm like flashing back to
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, you showed the door and
Speaker 1: I'm in, like my underwear thin and like hi, Jillian
Speaker 1: god a pillow. Yeah. I think one of those times too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was an interesting scene. Looking back, They're like, there
Speaker 1: was just so many scenes that there was. It was
Speaker 1: so fun. I love I loved what they did with
Speaker 1: our characters though. I think it was good and at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I knew we would never
Speaker 1: end up together. Well, there was respect there too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like the little Sister big brother, but I
Speaker 1: love that he was He wasn't. He could have easily
Speaker 1: taken the route of I'm with Brooke and I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, be cold here, which he didn't do at first.
Speaker 1: You did, I did a little bit. It's like a
Speaker 1: real character character because I feel like he cared about
Speaker 1: her and he obviously they were working together and making
Speaker 1: a movie and so you know he wanted that relationship
Speaker 1: to be healthy. But it's tricky also because you know
Speaker 1: Brooke Is has an issue with it. Yeah. Well, I
Speaker 1: love how we were able to become such good friends
Speaker 1: through it too, you know, like our our kind of
Speaker 1: um story arc was imitating not I mean minus me
Speaker 1: like flirting with you, but like we became actual friends.
Speaker 1: You know. I love that. Um, what was something that
Speaker 1: you could leave and never go back to in life?
Speaker 1: No intree hill in life? You're like wife, that's a
Speaker 1: big question. Um. Um. You know, before me too, and
Speaker 1: before um, a lot of this stuff started happening, we
Speaker 1: lived in a world that was um complacent and okay
Speaker 1: with saying that's how it is. And I think you
Speaker 1: know we've all we all experienced that and we let
Speaker 1: things slide because that was the norm, that was the
Speaker 1: status quo, that's how things were, And that's bullshit because
Speaker 1: looking back, that's not that's not how we should move forward.
Speaker 1: We if we ever see something that is wrong, we
Speaker 1: should stand up and say it, say it loud. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear you on that one. Yep, what about you, Janna?
Speaker 1: Which which one your question, what are something What would
Speaker 1: you leave behind from Tree Hill days? Um, yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be the the not having a voice with things
Speaker 1: that made me uncomfortable. Yeah, on the show, because I
Speaker 1: would laugh because I didn't lose my job, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I yeah, so I there were some inappropriate
Speaker 1: comments and I was just like and then I'll be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Then I would go back to Sofia
Speaker 1: or Sean Tal and be like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: they said they said this, and like I just laughed.
Speaker 1: You know, it made me so uncomfortable, but you can't
Speaker 1: say anything because I heard stories if you did say something, well,
Speaker 1: their storylines got cut. So it was just like a
Speaker 1: which sucks. And also like I think now i'd have
Speaker 1: more balls to be like no, no, I mean I
Speaker 1: think most people would now. Yeah, for sure. But I
Speaker 1: think it's also my age too. I was sure. It
Speaker 1: was my first show as a series regular, and I
Speaker 1: came out as a recurring that ended up being a
Speaker 1: series regular. So that was I was just so thankful
Speaker 1: to have a job and money. Like I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I got my first check as like a
Speaker 1: series regular, I was like, oh my god. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's how you're made to feel you made to feel
Speaker 1: like you're lucky and that you have to put up
Speaker 1: with anything that's going on because you're lucky to have
Speaker 1: this job. Yeah, and now I'm like, okay, I have
Speaker 1: we've all found a voice. We're older, and that's something
Speaker 1: that I definitely now I'm a lot um more vocal
Speaker 1: with my boundaries. H yeah, good, good good yeah great. Um,
Speaker 1: So Austin moving forward? Wait, would you ever do a
Speaker 1: one Ry Hill reboot? Because people ask all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't think there ever would be one, absolutely, I
Speaker 1: mean but where do you think people would even be?
Speaker 1: Alex's is going to be like unloved again somewhere like
Speaker 1: actually I think she's for yesterday? Really do tell? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's weird. So, um, a hurricane completely wipes out the town,
Speaker 1: which is not far from the truth. What could happen
Speaker 1: because hurricanes hit there all the time. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean like it's flattened, So not flattened, but like a
Speaker 1: lot of things are washed away and what you have
Speaker 1: is yous go by where it's a derelict ghost town.
Speaker 1: People left, just like in the ninth Ward in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: like people left and didn't come back. And things just
Speaker 1: rotted right and say, I don't know, ten years have
Speaker 1: gone by fifteen whatever it is. And this is the
Speaker 1: part I haven't worked out yet. Is the first part
Speaker 1: is great, and I think it's a new point of
Speaker 1: view comes and discovers something like, um, you know the
Speaker 1: bones of an old building like Trick or the bones
Speaker 1: of you know where the Red Brooks Red door, or
Speaker 1: you know, some piece of art, some artifacts from the show,
Speaker 1: and then it causes them to, you know, start to
Speaker 1: dig into this world that was wiped away. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happens next. Can we come back? Because I
Speaker 1: had like a job like, yeah, that's really cool, Austin,
Speaker 1: thank you. Are you sure not a writer too? Let's
Speaker 1: write this. That's really good. I'm serious. Yeah, we can get.
Speaker 1: We can get it could be there could be something there.
Speaker 1: What was the show? It was Veronica Mars that she
Speaker 1: did a the go fund me. We could easily she
Speaker 1: did a go fund me to get that, didn't she?
Speaker 1: How that happened? I think it did. It was some
Speaker 1: kind of raise, Like I'm pretty sure Eastan's gonna I
Speaker 1: know he's looking up right now, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: she did some kind of support raising thing to do
Speaker 1: like a one or a few. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many episodes was. I believe that's what it was. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, that would be so cool. There's there's a
Speaker 1: way to do it. I think also, you know, because
Speaker 1: I got people that are watching it. Like I had
Speaker 1: a girl stopped me in the airport the other day
Speaker 1: and I was like, how old are you? She's like
Speaker 1: a nineteen And I'm like, man, this show just keeps
Speaker 1: like living. And like, you know, we were talking about
Speaker 1: Top Gun and us so good sequel, and they spent
Speaker 1: so much obvious how much time they spent writing a
Speaker 1: love letter to the original movie but also giving us
Speaker 1: a new movie, and there was so much love and
Speaker 1: care put into it that I think so often now
Speaker 1: reboots I feel like they're slapped out there because it
Speaker 1: has a title that people recognize, like let's let's remake this,
Speaker 1: let's make this. But when you have something that's beloved,
Speaker 1: you have to give it the spit the time to
Speaker 1: to figure out what this new story is, what this
Speaker 1: new reboot is. So I you know, I think if
Speaker 1: if it ever happened, I hope that um a lot
Speaker 1: of love and care is put into it. So when
Speaker 1: your idea gets picked up and we're all back on
Speaker 1: the show, because I'm putting it out into the to
Speaker 1: the Ethernet, in the world, the internet, Jane is um
Speaker 1: um would would Brook and Julian still be married? A
Speaker 1: great question? That is a good question. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I hope yes, I think yes. I always loved that.
Speaker 1: Can I can I just stop you right there, though
Speaker 1: there's a reason why Carry and Big weren't still married,
Speaker 1: or like why I mean they were married, but why
Speaker 1: he had to die? Nobody the storyline cares about. Okay,
Speaker 1: I love Big, I love Big and Carry that was amazing.
Speaker 1: But to continue to watch a show, oh, I see
Speaker 1: what you're saying, just like to make it interesting, and
Speaker 1: it's like it's always about Carrie and her relationships. So like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we already saw that they're living happily ever after and
Speaker 1: yead in the real world, that's what we would love.
Speaker 1: But to watch again now it's like it's not interesting.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to change the idea, not just
Speaker 1: people would want that. I haven't even but gone so
Speaker 1: far as to figure out, you know what the where
Speaker 1: the characters are. All right, it's not my job because
Speaker 1: it's not my show. Well it's going to be playing
Speaker 1: out there. But okay, so one of the ideas that
Speaker 1: I love so much, and it's what whether or not
Speaker 1: you like the show or not the the By the way,
Speaker 1: don't hate me for saying, um, Brooke and Julian not married.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I just think it would be more
Speaker 1: interesting they understand. No, no, they don't. Someone do not
Speaker 1: because the photo of like you, how dare you like
Speaker 1: when when we post that photo and November people were
Speaker 1: lived Brooke and Julie forever, like I gotta hate yeah,
Speaker 1: But so you know, Karate Kid is this beloved movie,
Speaker 1: right and they made Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai, whether you
Speaker 1: like it or not, is a brilliant idea for a reboot.
Speaker 1: It is a side door in it's not straight through
Speaker 1: the front door. It is Oh no, no, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go over here and tell this guy's story. We're gonna
Speaker 1: tell you know. I feel like there's a way to
Speaker 1: do it where it's thoughtful and it's something else like that,
Speaker 1: it's something different that That's kind of where I was
Speaker 1: thinking that you know, the Hurricane Ida would be interesting
Speaker 1: because you could you could do something completely different. And
Speaker 1: of course, of course we want to bring in, you know,
Speaker 1: all the characters we love, but maybe they're not the center.
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, yeah, yea yeah, And maybe they you know,
Speaker 1: they come in at certain times and it's so exciting
Speaker 1: because we get a dose of them. But I think
Speaker 1: you might you need, you need to do something new,
Speaker 1: like top Gun has a new cast of young pilots.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, maybe I'm a therapist. Maybe Alex turns
Speaker 1: into a therapist. That's actually probably perfect. She's not, she's
Speaker 1: not what is she? Then she's dead and I'm kidding. No,
Speaker 1: she's happily married with children, just trying to imitate some
Speaker 1: kind of art. No, she's strong and by herself and
Speaker 1: she loves it that way. She probably exactly. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't need a man. Here we go, Oh man, Austin,
Speaker 1: what's next, bab um? I don't know. I'm I'm taking
Speaker 1: a little bit of time off and traveling with my
Speaker 1: puppy Otis and having a great time, and then you know,
Speaker 1: I'll get back into you know, reading some stuff and
Speaker 1: seeing But I don't know yet. Would you get on
Speaker 1: a procedural that would run forever? I don't know see,
Speaker 1: because I feel like a lot of times when I
Speaker 1: asked actors out there like no like for me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: get me a show that runs for ten years straight.
Speaker 1: And then I don't even care, like I just want
Speaker 1: something that because I want constant and then do like
Speaker 1: the one fun movie that's like makes some money. One
Speaker 1: thing I've learned is that to not rule anything out
Speaker 1: and not to say no, because you never know what
Speaker 1: could be coming. And you know, you know, procedurals aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily my favorite thing in the world. Doesn't mean there
Speaker 1: isn't there aren't great ones, and um, they can't be
Speaker 1: really fun and you know, so I try to keep
Speaker 1: an open mind and and see see what comes. Um.
Speaker 1: So maybe, and what are you watching right now? Because
Speaker 1: everyone wants to watch what Austin Minx. I'm kiddingly winning time.
Speaker 1: The story about the Lakers is incredible, really really good. Um,
Speaker 1: severance is really really very good. Um. Then stored an
Speaker 1: amazing job with the severance. Um what else? Oh, you
Speaker 1: told me to watch the Jessica Bile one Candy It's
Speaker 1: so good, So it's really great. Um, I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of candy. Jessica Bill is doing I feel like
Speaker 1: doing something she's never done and she's phenomenal. I hope
Speaker 1: she wins all the awards. Is there supposed to be
Speaker 1: more to that show? Or now? Is that just it?
Speaker 1: I mean it's a true crime thing, so I think
Speaker 1: that it. I think it's limited. And it's pressing to
Speaker 1: me though, because when I like a show, I wanted
Speaker 1: to last. And also, you know, Hollywood is you know,
Speaker 1: if it's a big hit, they will find a way
Speaker 1: I know, to do another season. But his story, I
Speaker 1: feel pushed forced because it ended. But who knows. Maybe well, UM,
Speaker 1: thank you for stopping in Nashville on your on your
Speaker 1: road trip and UM, yeah, let's not let it be
Speaker 1: ten years again? Copy that I agree? Could that agree? Um,
Speaker 1: y'all give it up for Austin and follow him on
Speaker 1: all the things and watch MINX and and um you're
Speaker 1: the best. I love you, I love you. Thank you.
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